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So, to begin, I thoroughly agree with people doing some amount of research into topics they're unfamiliar with before they slap something on a page, call it a day, and then get offended when they're corrected.
This bit, however, was sorta what I meant in terms of helpful tips on how to write topics properly instead of avoid them:
"Also, if the things I describe don't sound interesting enough to explore to fans who want to create content about Jazz, well, maybe he isn't the character they ought to be interested in?"
Because while I agree that some people unequivocally twist characters unrecognizably to fit more neatly into certain plot lines (and I loathe it, and I've made a more than a few posts myself about it and actually about Jazz specifically) I guess I'm trying to dial in on where it crosses from "something that bothers me personally" to "something I would definitely consider racist."
Because as wildly infuriating as mischaracterization is, it's also not something specific to Jazz? After all, the essence of fanfic/fandom usually is to place characters in unusual (oftentimes skeevy) circumstances and convey how they would reactāand some people just don't do it well as a general principle.
Though I do agree wholeheartedly that if you donāt much look at canon and to alternative character interpretations then you have no chance of avoiding being a (progressively more inaccurate) echo chamber. So I suppose to clarify, is it more the fact that you feel people are relying on ingrained stereotypes already established in place of canon characterization? Or that some concepts/tropes are almost impossible to avoid being racist with as a general principle? Both?
Because I guess I'm just a little concerned about running the risk of "diverting from this specific interpretation is problematic", because I don't think there's any way for anyone to win in that scenario.
Because while I definitely agree with your general/core evaluation of Jazz's character, I do disagree with just the one portion of it. A portion which seems to be something that you were uncomfortable with? I don't think that the fandom's fascination with Jazz having a ~dark side~ or experiencing some type of ideological crisis is actually unwarranted from a canon perspective (e.g. Robots in Disguise #31-32 (2012) and All Hail Megatron).
Unfortunately, I think our difference in opinion is in large part due to the nature of long running comics with various authors: the characterization is not consistent.
In other words, I guess my main area of concern (outside of avoiding core mischaracterization) is how to avoid falling into the trap of perhaps relying on stereotypes in order to accommodate tropes* that themselves are not the problem (and will honestly never go away) and could be handled respectfully. (*I mean like Fantasy AU, Decepticon AU, No War AU, etc...)
So are there any (edgy or not) topics you feel could be written about if only handled properly?
ex. (1) Jazz being a lazy, work-shirker is obviously a no-go, but do you consider him being playful and the "morale officer" (as I've seen it put sometimes given his always-cool-under-pressure personality) to be racist, just personally dislike it, or think it's fine?
(2) Do you have a problem with Jazz having a "dark side" at all, or does it just bother you if it's portrayed in a "ignorant until shown the error of his ways and reformed" way? Same with a "dark past"? More nuanced?
(3) Unintelligible dialogue unique to Jazz is obv racist, but do you also feel as though (if that proper research is done) incorporating some AAVE is appropriate?
(3) Are there other general things that you think just can't be handled appropriately regardless of circumstances? Or maybe that just shouldn't be handled by a non-black writer?
And fyi these questions are open to anyone who wants to chime in as well!
Thank you again for taking the time to make this post and chat!
I think I've reached my last nerve with how TF fans treat Jazz on here and on AO3, and I feel the need to rant about it. Obligatory "not all Jazz fans" and "not all JazzProwl fans" disclaimer here... if this doesn't sound like it's describing the content you make or enjoy, then it's not. Honestly, I don't think this angry rant is going to convince anybody of anything, but I'm posting it because I want to make it clear that people see this and are aware it's racist.
Never let it be said that racism isn't thriving in the TF fandom on Tumblr and AO3, because so much Jazz fan content is the most blatantly racist shit. And it's nowhere near as bad on other sites that people here usually claim are more racistāI've never seen what I'm about to describe on r/transformers, for example. TF fans on here often claim to love Jazz so much and say he's one of the best, most unhateable TF characters along with Soundwave, but do they ACTUALLY love Jazz?
Tumblr and AO3 users when they see this great, heavily Black-coded hero: We love Jazz! Ooh, what if he was a slave? What if he was hyper-violent? What if he was a disruptive chaos gremlin? What if he was hypersexual? What if he was lazy and never did his work? What if he was a drug addict? What if he was a prostitute? What if he had an evil alter? What if he used to be/was secretly a Decepticon? What if he was a notorious criminal? What if he was literally some kind of bestial monster?
I've actually seen people on Tumblr asking if Jazz being a Decepticon or having an evil alter was ever canon. Well, let this be a PSA: none of this shit is fucking real! I've seen almost all the media Jazz is in, and none of this reflects how he's been portrayed, ever! Apparently people posting links and screenshots and GIFs showing what Jazz has actually been like in canon hasn't caused people to self-reflect, because this shit is still somehow super popular and even filtering doesn't screen even close to all of it! And I've seen in real-time people who are newer to the fandom getting tricked by all this racist fanon and then being drawn into it, thinking it reflects something when it doesn't! That's one of the things that bothers me most!
And then there's the other half of this, which is the immense popularity of JazzProwl. Putting aside how ridiculous it is that a ship between characters who haven't had a positive interaction in fifteen years is somehow the most popular ship in this fandom, half of all the Jazz content I see on sites like Tumblr also stars Prowl, as if Jazz isn't an arguably more prominent character with tons of unexplored stuff of his own going on. But that's the least of it. How the hell do I constantly see people uncritically post shit with this ship like Prowl trying to arrest or pull over a chaotic criminal Jazz? Or shooting at him? Or white savior, copaganda, anti-sex work garbage like Prowl as a cop rescuing prostitute/stripper Jazz from exploitative working conditions (I'm not making this shit up)? (Also, @ people who make content in which Prowl is Jazz's slaveāI see you too, and you're not woke. You are still linking Black people to slavery as your first thought and then assuming it's subversive to flip the dynamic you'd expect to see. You're getting off on slavery and still including a Black-coded hero in your shit.)
Even the majority of the much milder content I see is still ridiculously OOC and plays into racist tropes in its own ways. Like how 90% of JazzProwl content shows a lazy, distractible Jazz endlessly trying to get Prowl to relax by disrupting his work or playing pranks or some shit. What media does that come from? Oh yeah, it comes from nowhere, because it's just old fanon that's been endlessly regurgitated by people who aren't realizing how making this up plays into offensive stereotypes about Black men and boys. Hey, if you people love this boring dynamic so much, maybe look at the canon relationships that are similar to it instead of forcing characters who don't fit it whatsoever into these roles without thinking about the implications!
And guess what? I've repeatedly seen literal proof that basically everyone who thinks they like this ship hasn't ever seen the characters interact in canon, tooāevery so often somebody on here will ask why JazzProwl is popular and ask for fans to share the canon media that made them ship it... and inevitably nobody can share anything, which is hilarious every time. Sometimes people will admit it's all fanon. In fact, the other day I saw a link to a fic from the very early 2000s that claims to be the super-influential, first JazzProwl fic ever making the rounds on Tumblr, and guess what? I looked at it and it was already super fucking racist, with Jazz being described as chaotic and not a hard worker and it had Prowl angrily shooting at him!!!
Jazz is one of my favorite characters and I'm so sick of this shit! Normally I love transformative works and new interpretations of characters, but in this case the fanon is so horrid and has always been horrid, so either try to examine Jazz in canon and portray him based on it, or be a fan of a different character! And fucking REMEMBER that this is a Black-coded hero, damn it! I saw a fic the other day that made me literally choke on my drink because it had Blaster (also a Black-coded hero) describing Jazz as a "spook!" THAT DOES NOT JUST MEAN SPY, THAT'S A RACIST, ANTI-BLACK SLUR!!! And this isn't even getting into how people in fic have Jazz talk! Jazz in all the media I've seen speaks very clearly and rarely has any kind of accent, but I constantly see white people attempting to write his dialogue phonetically in a way that feels straight out of Uncle Tom's Cabin. What the fuck is this?!
Also, petty, but the fans who make and consume this kind of content in my opinion don't then get to relentlessly criticize something like Earthspark, which has a cast and crew of people of color, by claiming it undermined its themes and is racist!
#racism in tf#jazz racism#discourse#of a sort???#also sorry but i'm just not gonna address the jp question in the post or in depth#bc i think there's plenty of people in plenty of fandoms#that can read the same exact thing i do and don't understand it the same way#so i think plenty of ppl have based their jp off canon and plenty of ppl haven't#i just avoid the characterization or plots i don't like (which is a LOT) and honestly not any more than other fandoms i've been in#but i also think there are things that the fandom has done better than creators#who can be much more racist and much less invested in a interesting character than fans
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RACEBENDING NATIONAL PERSONIFICATIONS: A TREATISE
DISCLAIMERS:
I AM NOT WHITE, I AM A POC. I am not writing this because Iām a butthurt white person who gets pissy when someone makes my white faves nonwhite and thus unrelatable to me for āsomeā reason.
I AM NOT PERSONALLY ATTACKING ANY INDIVIDUALS WHO RACEBEND OR IMAGINE THEIR NATIONS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ETHNICITY THAN WHAT THEY DO IN CANON; ON A SIMILAR NOTE, DO NOT ATTACK SUCH INDIVIDUALS FOR ME. This is a discussion of general fandom trends and a larger phenomenon, the issue I am talking about cannot be solved on an individual to individual basis.
I AM NOT TRYING TO STOP FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE FROM RECLAIMING THEIR NATIONS. As I am not First Nations myself, I would not wish to deny what these individuals emotionally and mentally reap from reclaiming their nations.
I AM NOT THE āPOC ARENāT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN AND SEE THEMSELVES IN THEIR FAVESā POLICE; I AM NOT YOUR MOM, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. Again, this is a discussion of fandom trends and a larger phenomenon. I think itās almost always worth examining why we do the things we do and the reasons behind a trend.
I AM NOT AGAINST RACEBENDING IN GENERAL. This is specifically an essay on racebending in nationverse Hetalia and other personified nations fandoms.
PREFACE
As stated before in my disclaimers, this essay is not intended to be a condemnation of individuals who participate in racebending. Rather, I intend to make a macro-critique of wider structures and patterns. For this reason, this essay is not accusing anyone engaging in racebending of holding any specific belief. I cannot stress enough how much I do not know you, the hypothetical reader who engages in racebending.Ā
Again, my intent is to critique wider structures and patterns.
This essay is a conversation I would like to have with other POC and other marginalized groups, especially POC based in white, Western countries. Thus, I ask people not included in the above groups to refrain from weighing in on this.
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
The Difference in Reception for Racebent versus Non-Racebent Characters
The Inherent Politicism of Personifying Nations
The State of POC Representation in Hetalia
The Assumption of Interchangeability in POC Experience
The Myth of Multiculturalism
āItās Just Fandom, Why Are You Trying to Control POC Who Just Want to Have Fun and Want to Represent Themselves?"
Conclusion
The Difference in Reception for Racebent versus Non-Racebent Characters
I will start this essay off with an acknowledgement of my station in the Hetalia fandom and how it uniquely equips me to talk about this topic ā I am very fortunate to enjoy a follower base that primarily follows me for non-Western characters, whether they be canonical or my own original characters. As someone who mostly posts non-Western characters, I can confirm that there is a wider disparity in reception between drawings of my white characters and non-white characters. The following example is not from myself, but from the artist miyuecakes who similarly focuses on predominantly non-white, non-Western countries. You can see there is a drastic gap in the amount of notes that post focused on five nations considered to be non-Western versus a drawing of Female America.
Stating this fact of the fandom is fairly noncontroversial. I would also assert that the following statement is equally true, however given recent reception, is far more controversial: āThere are far more instances of racebent canonically white/Western characters, which receive far more traction than their non-racebent counterparts, whether canonical or not.ā
I want to make clear what my statement is not saying:
Racebending is only done by white people seeking to score clout and diversity points without having to care about canon non-white characters. In fact, the vast majority of racebending in the fandom is done by POC looking for representation; given the amount of white canon nations compared to any other nation, POC who engage in racebending see it as a way of āeveningā the disproportionate overrepresentation of white countries.
POC who engage in racebending are doing so to score clout and diversity points with a white audience. Refer to my above point.
Racebent canonically white characters are met with no controversy or racist/bigoted vitriol. It is fairly well known that there have been multiple harassment campaigns, particularly on Twitter, against artists and editors whoāve engaged in racebending even outside of the Hetalia fandom: see the Black Anya edit, Thuminās artwork and resulting hate. POC being visibly POC in online spaces will always garner backlash.
On a similar note, I am not including POC cosplayers cosplaying white or light-skinned characters in my definition of racebending. Being angered by POC who cosplay characters of a different complexion is blatantly racist; anyone who is angered by this has nothing of value to add and not worth arguing with.
I am a bitter artist who is mad that I donāt receive enough notes on my posts with non-racebent characters compared to posts about racebent white characters. As stated earlier, I am grateful for the audience Iāve cultivated who specifically follow me for non-racebent non-Western content; I am also more than aware that my content is not what people who seek out racebent content are looking for, and have no interest in changing either my content or their tastes. The last thing I would wish to do is to label POC creators who engage in racebending as āthe enemyā and POC creators who donāt as āmy side.ā
With that out of the way, I bring up this observation because I think itās worth asking ourselves, POC specifically, the following questions: Why? Why is there this discrepancy in frequency and reception between these kinds of characters and content? Why do people racebend in lieu of focusing on existing POC and creating their own non-white characters?
The easy answer most would give is because white characters are over-represented and given more screen time and attention in the canon, so people, especially POC, will become attached to them and create variations of them that hit closer to home for them; this is especially the case if you are a POC who has had experiences living as a minority in a Western country. Some POC may also use racebending as a way to subvert national myths that have historically excluded people of color for a variety of racist, imperialist reasons. I know I used to subscribe towards a depiction of non-white passing America and Canada for this very reason.
In the rest of this essay I would like to examine and critique the practice of racebending national anthropomorphisms traditionally and typically depicted as white in the context of Hetalia and by extension other media involving similar premises. This essay argues that while racebending may be harmless for most other anime, Hetalia ā by virtue of its content centering real life nations ā carries political implications that are not necessarily appropriate.
I stress again that I canāt stop you or what anybody in the Hetalia fandom does. I do not have that kind of power nor the will to do such a thing. All I ask is for you to listen to the following with an open mind, and if thereās only one thing you take away from this, I hope itās to realize that POC in particular have valid reasons to dislike racebent depictions of white nations; holding such a stance does not make them anti-POC representation and somehow no longer POC and instead, a member of the white oppressor class.
The Inherent Politicism of Personifying Nations
Firstly, I repeat that a series about personified nations is deeply political and every creative choice carries political and socio-cultural ramifications, whether intentional or not and made by the creator or the fan. Even if you mostly interact with Hetalia in a depoliticized context, others may not, and given that nationverse Hetalia is about personified nations, this is perfectly reasonable.Ā
Let us look into the canon material of Hetalia- It is shown that nations on average have close ties to their governments, viewing them as their bosses and carrying out actions for them. We are shown that there are nations who go against the orders of their governments, such as Germany; this does not mean all nations follow in that pattern, however, and there are many who are in lockstep with their governments and their actions.
Therefore, for individuals whose ethnic groups and nations have suffered great harm from oppressor nation-states (Philippines v. United States, Indonesia v. Netherlands, India v. England), it is not irrational for them to be unsettled by their oppressor being racebent- especially when said oppressor nation-state is depicted as being the same ethnicity as the very group(s) they marginalized. This is uncomfortable for multiple reasons:Ā
There is an implication that a member of a marginalized group possibly chose to take part in atrocities and misdeeds that the said marginalized group historically not the major perpetrator behind. In more egregious cases, a member of a marginalized group willingly chose to commit atrocities and misdeeds on a large scale against their own group.
The oppressor state personification was forced by their government to commit these grievous acts of harm against members of other marginalized groups/their own marginalized groups; thus, the personification of the nation-state, the people, has little to no culpability as an oppressor, and is instead made into a fellow victim of their own government.Ā
This deflects blame from the embodiment of the state of being an oppressor. The suggestion here is that the state is somehow completely separate yet intertwined with the government ā it was simply the government who perpetrated the crimesā¦ the people were just unwillingly complicit. This can come across as an erasure/rosewashing of the very purposeful policies used to harm and disadvantage colonized/oppressed groups.
This can also erase the fact that in many cases, the people gave the governmentās actions their tacit approval whether it was through whole-hearted enthusiasm or apathy towards the suffering of others.Ā
In the case that the racebent nationās minority ethnicity was historically involved in such acts, this involves highly sensitive conversations about minoritiesā complicity in crimes and assimilation into the white/majority order (e.g. Chinese and East Asian settlers in Hawaii after Americaās illegal annexation, Korean collaborators with the Japanese annexation of Korea, African American soldiers in the Philippines); these are extremely touchy subjects that should be had within the relevant ethnic groups, and should not be appropriated by outsiders, particularly white people, especially for fandom purposes.
(I will discuss insiders racebending nation-states to their ethnic group that have suffered mistreatment and oppressed by said nation-states in āThe Myth of Multiculturalism.ā)
Additionally, racebending may end up justifying those very same crimes, especially in the case of settler colonialism. For example, during French rule of Algeria, the French government began a program of confiscating Algerian land from indigenous Algerians and giving them to French and European settlers. Over the course of two centuries, more and more land was taken away from indigenous Algerians, forcing them to move to the margins of society, where they were barred from accessing employment, higher education, and the other societal amenities.Ā
Many would be able to identify how personifying Algeria as a white, French individual would be erasing indigenous Algerians and implying that the French settlers represent all of Algeria. However, conversely, making France an Algerian man is also playing into colonial French propaganda. The French viewed Algeria as part of France and the French homeland itself, unique even among other French African colonies, and made plans to make Algeria a full-fledged French province, or department. To make the national personification of France Algerian then, is to suggest that this belief was and is correct, that the Algerians are a part of the colonial core of France, even if the intention is to represent the modern day Algerian diaspora in France.
IMPORTANT: I will expand on the politics of representing diaspora populations in the section āThe Myth of Multiculturalism.ā
Given all of these reasons for why POC may justifiably react negatively to a racebent white nation personification, some may argue against these with:
āWhy is it that when the nation is white, they never have to deal with any of these heavy discussions of imperialism, bigotry, oppression, etc, but when theyāre racebent they suddenly have to? Why are they suddenly politicized when theyāre racebent?ā
My response to that is that they were politicized, even when they were white because the act of personifying a nation is inherently political; to ignore a white nationās history of oppression is a politically charged move in of itself. Are we really depoliticizing POC when we racebend a white nation and try to maintain that same ādepoliticizationā and omission of historical oppression but this time for a POC face? To racebend a white nation is to refuse to contend with the contradiction of transforming an oppressor class to the very group they marginalize - making racebending an inherently political act. It is not necessarily that whiteness is unpolitical but rather that an active refusal to deal with this contradiction makes the political implications much more obvious.
Additionally, this rebuttal raises another question- Were we to completely forget about a characterās background as the personification of an oppressor state and the political weight of that, would that truly solve the problem of POC being politicized? I donāt think so- In the current world we live in, POC are always political. But exclusively racebending oppressor states makes no attempt to depoliticize non-Western POC states, creating a divide between POC that get to be ādepoliticizedā and POC who donāt based on their proximity to the West.
The State of POC Representation in Hetalia
Some would argue with the points of my last paragraph saying that I am not including POC who both engage in racebending but also create non-Western POC OCs; if equal attention is given to both, there would be no division between racebent Western POC who get to be humanized and non-Western POC who donāt, right?
To answer this we must acknowledge wider trends in racebending in Hetalia. Consider the following: When somebody has a North African! Romano, how many other North African nations (canon or non-canon) do they show appreciation for? Create content for? Expound the same amount of mental and creative energy for? Furthermore: If they do have another North African nation(s) they create content for, are they allowed to exist as their own separate beings, and not purely exist to be North African! Romanoās tie to North Africa?
Chances are, Romano is reduced to being the token brown character in a largely white cast and isnāt allowed to ever exist without whiteness surrounding him. This is a very diaspora experience, but I find it unfortunate that in a piece of media that enables us to explore any number of cultures and experiences over all of time and history, we (and Iām including myself as another POC who grew up in a primarily white environment) are unable to imagine ourselves outside of this setting and celebrate ourselves without having to exist against a white mainstream. Stories about white engulfment are allowed to exist and should be told, but why is this so common? Why do these stories disproportionately outnumber POC stories where whiteness is minute or absent?
As my audience is intended to be mostly POC, I will not elaborate on the following scenario too much, but I will ask us to scrutinize the ethics of it. What about cases where white individuals racebend some of their white favorite characters and position them as POC representation in lieu of actually focusing on POC, non-Western nations, canon or not? Does this not have implications about what kinds of POC and diversity are considered more palatable and appealing?
Furthermore, when another North African nation does exist alongside racebent Romano, their character and depiction is almost always heavily dependent on their relationship to Romano, a Western nation. This still perpetuates the same inequality I was talking about earlier where POC nations are humanized based on their proximity to the West, whether because they personify a Western nation or happen to have a relationship with a Western nation.
We should not just be talking about having āmoreā non-white representation, but also the quality of it. It is completely understandable why some POC may not be satisfied with the representation most racebent content provides, even beyond the reasons outlined previously; this type of representation excludes POC who do not have a relationship to the West, and is still largely focused on the West.Ā
IMPORTANT: I am not saying that contact with or influence from the West makes POC somehow āless POCā or that stories from Western-based diaspora are a ādilutedā form of representation. I will expand on this in the section āThe Myth of Multiculturalism.ā
āWell if itās not good enough for those POC, then they should just mind their business and make their own representation! Thereās plenty of non-racebent content out there!ā
Many POC do exactly that- creating their own representation without racebending. However, as established earlier, racebent white characters receive far more attention and feedback compared to canonical non-white characters, despite the fact that both depictions fulfill the purpose of ārepresentation.ā This can be especially disheartening in a fandom that already heavily tokenizes canon POC nations, whether itās India being presented as the ānannyā/surrogate parent in Commonwealth group art or Seychelles as the āadopted child of colorā in FACES family. To POC content creators, it feels insulting that the wider fandom, rather than developing POC canon characters (or taking advantage of the source materialās potential by making OCs) and viewing them as representation, the fandom chooses to racebend Western nations and celebrates them instead.
I want to make clear again what I am not saying with that statement:
POC who engage in racebending are doing so to score clout and diversity points with a white audience. Again, itās a fact that the vast majority of racebending is done by POC looking to create their own representation.
POC who engage in racebending should all go stan Seychelles and Cuba instead. This is an extremely individualist solution to what is a wider phenomenon. I do not blame POC based in Western countries for feeling disconnected to the few POC nations we have in canon.
Racebent POC content is more popular than content of non-racebent white characters.
What I am describing here is how an audience (the Hetalia fandom) receives two creations, both made by POC in the pursuit of creating more representation, and the difference in reception. The difference, it seems, is that the wider fandom deems certain kinds of POC representation more appealing, and thus, certain kinds of POC worth focusing on.
The Assumption of Interchangeability in POC Experience
Earlier, I mentioned that one of the possible reasons for POC to engage in racebending is the desire to see an iteration of their favorite character that is closer to their own reality and lived experience. Therefore, some may choose to racebend a white character to embody a marginalized minority in the country instead so they can share more experiences with the formerly white characters.Ā
Here, I will not be dealing with the practice of POC racebending their own country to their own ethnicity, which is the focus of the next section. Instead, I will be delving into the practice of POC racebending another nation to embody a minority (one which they do not belong to) for the purposes of āputting themselves in their interpretations.ā I argue that to do this requires assuming a certain level of interchangeability between POC experiences.
First and foremost, POC are not a monolith- we lead drastically different lives depending on our ethnic backgrounds, where we live, our socioeconomic class, our political and racial context, and etc. Therefore, we cannot presume that our experiences of marginalization mean weāll always succeed in properly representing other minority groups elsewhere; in fact, the goal of projecting our own life experiences onto them means that there will be an obstacle to properly representing these minority groups.
Take the following example: Imagine a Chinese-Malaysian individual greatly enjoys the character of Spain. Wishing to better relate to him, the individual racebends him to be also Chinese. However, a great deal of historical, cultural determinants and nuances separate the experiences of Chinese people in Spain and Chinese people in Malaysia. There are similarities, yes, but this Chinese Malaysian cannot hope to properly represent the Chinese population in Spain if their primary goal remains self-projection. Now imagine that our Chinese-Malaysian individual wished to racebend England to be Indian; an even wider gap separates the experiences and history of Chinese people in Malaysia and Indian people in England, making it even less likely that our individual will succeed in representing the experiences of Indian people in England.
Another point to consider is that attempts at racebending certain national personifications to represent minorities in the country end up erasing representation for the majority population of the country. For example, there has been a historical Japanese community in Peru that dates back to the 1800s and made a large impact on Peruvian culture. However, it would still be inappropriate to make a Peru OC that is mostly Japanese in race, because besides just being not representative of the 99.9% of non-Japanese Peruvians, it would also be taking representation from Peruvian mestizo and indigenous peoples, who make up over 80% of Peruās population.
This isnāt even taking into consideration cases where nations are racebent to personify ethnic groups that do not have a numerically significant or historically significant population.
āSo what if itās inaccurate? I just want to self-project onto my favorite character!ā
If thatās your response, then I encourage you to read the section āItās Just Fandom, Why Are You Trying to Control POC Who Just Want to Have Fun and Want to Represent Themselves?ā where I address assertions of "fandom is not activism" and similar points.
For now, I will ask you to consider the feelings of those very minorities you are ostensibly representing, even if your primary intention is to project your own experiences onto a character. Chances are, they also suffer from little to no representation that depicts them in inaccurate and unflattering ways.
Hetalia is a media property supposedly centered around exploring and learning about other cultures, but so often fails to accurately and sensitively depict many cultures and nations. Should we not show them the grace that canon Hetalia fails to provide?
The Myth of Multiculturalism
Multiculturalism is typically defined as a celebration of a nationās ethnic diversity. This is generally considered to be a good and progressive value to have, but a closer and more critical look at multiculturalism in practice suggests that not even a value directed at xenophobia is immune to in-group out-group biases. When enacted by the state, multiculturalism is less an acceptance of diversity as it currently exists (especially in regards to non-indigenous ethnicities) and more an assimilation of these āforeign culturesā into the dominant national one.
For example, Singapore has built much of its national identity as a āmulticulturalā society. This is shown through government policies in language and education, where the languages of the 3 ethnic groups (Chinese, Tamil Indians, Malays) are all officialized and the government promotes education for ethnic minorities in their mother tongues. However, the label of āmulticulturalā hides the reality of power inequality between the various ethnic groups. Minorities face pressure to display literacy in the language and culture of the Chinese majority for greater societal acceptance and inclusion. In fact, the assertion that Singapore is a multicultural society that treats its ethnic groups all equally, is often used as a cudgel to shut down any allegations that Singapore fails to live up to this national identity. As my audience is intended to be predominantly POC, especially those living as minorities in Western nations, members of my audience are of course familiar with insistences of āBut Canada/United States/etc is a melting pot society! Racism isnāt a serious issue, POC canāt be treated poorly in those countries.ā
By racebending a national personification to be part of a marginalized population, this is making a political statement by asserting that the marginalized population is in fact a part of that nation, and has always been, despite historical exclusion. The act of racebending is an overly idealistic and uncritical agreement with multiculturalism, without considering how the value actually applies in practice. It rosewashes the reality and existence of cultural imperialism enacted on immigrant/outsider groups.Ā
Racebending can therefore accidentally act as multicultural propaganda, especially when the invokement of multiculturalism is used to stamp out valid critiques of othering and racialization by ethnic minorities. (E.g. āSingapore canāt have problems with racism against Malays! Singapore himself is Malay!ā)
IMPORTANT: If you want to argue that nation personifications are not inherently representative of their government, refer to the section, āThe Inherent Politicism of Personifying Nations.ā
āWell, POC based in Western countries will naturally feel more connected to their Western countries than their homelands, often because of those policies intended to break their connections to their homelands. Why canāt they racebend to reclaim? To feel connected to their Western countries in contrast to their realities of ostracization and othering?ā
I have already discussed why other POC (those affected by a white regimeās actions) would be uncomfortable with the implications of tying a POC/marginalized group with said white regimeās misdeeds in the section āThe Inherent Politicism of Personifying Nationsā so I will not discuss it here beyond mentioning it.
Firstly, I must acknowledge that this argument is fundamentally an emotional one. I do not want to deny what POC in Western countries emotionally derive from racebending the nation-state, even as a fellow POC based in a Western country. Instead, I will approach this argument from another angle.
I ask the following: When trying to represent our experiences as diaspora and minorities, why is personifying a diaspora/minority community not a popular option? The act of choosing to personify a community is inherently political, and we can use it to empower ourselves as diaspora or minorities. For example, by personifying diaspora communities, we can acknowledge that diaspora experiences are different enough from those in the āhomelandā to warrant another personification, and also avoid accidentally justifying colonial possession of those āhomelandā states.Ā
Additionally, by personifying diaspora/minority communities, we can 1) better reflect our unique day-to-day experiences of being racialized and separated from the mainstream, 2) avoid many of the earlier uncomfortable implications of minority collaboration in majority perpetrated acts and condoning colonialism, and 3) stress our independence and autonomy despite the efforts of the state and majority population to take that away.
To put it another way, why are there so many stories of minorities striving towards being included, or from another angle, subsumed, into the white nation-state despite its frequent rejection of them? Again, what does it say that these narratives of āinclusion into a historically white nation-stateā disproportionately outnumber POC narratives where whiteness is minute or absent?
IMPORTANT: I am not singling you, the hypothetical POC diaspora individual who engages in racebending, out. I am asking about wider patterns of representation in media.
āBut by personifying diaspora and minority communities separately from the personification of the nation-state, isnāt that basically saying that minorities will never be seen as part of the nation-state? That we will never be included when people think of our nation state?ā
I believe this response takes too narrow a perspective on what multiculturalism is and ābeing part of a nation-state means,ā and thus views having separate personifications as ājustifyingā or āpromotingā our exclusion from the nation-state when it may not be the case.
Look at it from this way- Is it not also problematic to have only one avatar for, say, America, and thus imply that there is one true way of being āAmerican?ā Having multiple American personifications, in contrast, is a more true depiction of the realities of being American, and more true to the values of multiculturalism; it instead suggests that there are many ways to be American, that we donāt have to be subsumed into the mainstream to be considered āAmerican.ā
āIsnāt that functionally the same as different interpretations of the same nation-state coexisting? Why canāt fans just all have a different Alfred/America specific to their own experience who are all equally considered American?ā
Once more: I am not trying to stop anyone from doing anything. Thatās not within my power to do so. I agree with this statement that largely, having multiple American personifications and multiple America/Alfred fulfills the same purpose of showing that to be American means something different to everyone. However, the reason I advocated for the former approach is because it achieves the same goal with a lot less uncomfortable questions and unique benefits (minority autonomy), as detailed above.
āItās Just Fandom, Why Are You Trying to Control POC Who Just Want to Have Fun and Want to Represent Themselves?ā
First off, I am presenting this essay as a conversation with other POC because I want to make it explicitly known that my position here is not that of a white person seeking to silence POC and lecture them about what is and is not good for them. Secondly, it's because I want to talk about racebending as it currently exists in the Hetalia fandom, something mostly done by POC who wish to represent themselves and create the diversity missing in the source material. I believe pointing out that white people who are uncomfortable with POC characters or only racebend for self-centered reasons likely have a racial bias is obvious, especially to other POC, and wish to progress the conversation beyond this. This is why my discussion on racebending is moving beyond white bias.
As part of centering this as a discussion among POC, I am also assuming good faith from my interlocutors, that their desires for representation and diversity are sincere, and that I donāt look down on them. I hope then, that this assumption of good faith can be afforded to me as well- that my interlocutors believe me when I say that the last thing I want to do is control POC, as a fellow POC.
Having gotten all of that out of the way, let's address some rebuttals to the arguments I've made thus far.
"Who are you to decide what kind of representation resonates with POC?"
You're right. I can't decide what kind of representation resonates with POC. Again, I am not intent on controlling POC, and again, I recognize that many of the arguments in favor of racebending white nations come from an emotional place; I canāt control how POC feel, even if I wanted to do that.
However, it's precisely because of this that I've made my arguments based onĀ factors other than emotional ones, such as the political implications and questioning the inclusivity racebending provides us with. POC joy and happiness is crucial in the face of a system that seeks to crush and suppress us. But from one POC to another, it's not much of a discussion if your response to my points is simply, "Well, it makes me feel represented and happy, and that's what matters most." If we argued based on that, we could go all day. Am I not a POC myself? Do the feelings and happiness of POC who are uncomfortable with racebending not matter? For that matter, who are you to tell the people whose families and people have been historically affected by white imperialist states to stop disliking racebent versions of those imperialist states?
For white people, it is easy for them to shut down racebending, because they don't understand the experience of never seeing yourself in any form of media. I have asked white/non-marginalized people to refrain from this discussion for that very reason. But in exchange for that, we should be able to discuss the ramifications of racebending national personifications, and look deeper at the arguments for and against racebending.
"You're taking this too seriously. People giving more attention to racebent versions of Western countries versus non-racebent POC countries doesn't say anything deeper about someone's political beliefs. People just like the silly anime about personified countries, and that silly anime happens to give more attention to the canonically white countries."
To a certain extent, I get this rebuttal. We cannot solve racism or the privileging of the global north by reblogging Hetalia fanart of Seychelles and Cameroon. Everything I have described here is symptomatic of much, much larger issues that affect billions. But it's symptomatic: fandom is not immune to the ills of wider society. We do not shed our innate biases and prejudices when we enter supposedly apolitical spaces like fandom. In a series about personified nations, our prejudices and biases are naturally magnified because the source materialās nature is deeply political, dealing with history and personified nations and states.
Again I ask: What does it mean that the POC representation made by POCs is so often limited to racebending canonically white characters, in the context of the world order we live in where proximity to the West automatically confers certain privileges?
IMPORTANT: Refer to the section āThe Myth of Multiculturalismā if you respond to this with āAre you saying depictions of Western-influenced POC experiences are a lesser form of representation?ā
If that fails to convince you, and you still believe the inequality in reception between racebent and non-racebent nations doesnāt say anything deeper, I respond with the following- Isnāt it still worth it to try and show the same support and energy to the non-racebent, non-Western countries and their creators, regardless of whether that content speaks to you or not?
One last time, Iāll clarify what Iām not saying with that:
Stop liking America and Russia and England. I repeat, I cannot control what POC like or feel or do, and I repeat, what characters you personally like is a very individualistic view on a wider, systemic issue.
In the section āThe State of POC Representation in Hetalia,ā I discussed how disproportionately giving to racebent countries versus non-racebent non-Western countries is not an intersectional form of POC representation, and fails to address the underrepresentation of non-Western countries and cultures given the global colonial hierarchy. My above statement is therefore saying that if we POC want to achieve a more intersectional form of solidarity and representation, to create a fandom thatās more non-Western friendly, to generally support all types of POC creators, we should not neglect certain kinds of POC content just because it doesnāt personally resonate with us.
You donāt have to. Fandom is not activism. For many, fandom is an escape from the grim realities of the outside world. But in a media property all about exploring other countriesā cultures and histories, can we not strive for the spirit of the source material, and be a little more open-minded in exploring other countries and other forms of POC representation? Even in this miniscule way?
CONCLUSION
I would like to conclude this essay on the matter of irithnova, and the recent controversy sheās been embroiled in for stating many of the points I have made. Yes, our tones were different. But no amount of harsh tone warrants the outrage and rather racist backlash her post received. irithnova has been one of the most active voices in the Hetalia fandom speaking out against racism, from the exclusion of POC in j-ellyfishās character polls to myrddinās behavior. However, as soon as she, a Filipino, expresses personal discomfort with certain depictions of a nation thatās caused great harm to her people, other POC were the first to get mad at her for seeing the political implications of a POC personified America, to the point of trying to deny her reality as a feminized and racialized member of the diaspora living in a colonial European country and calling her functionally white.
POC solidarity doesnāt mean we have to all agree with each other, or even like every other POC. But I want to note the irony here of people committing the very act they accused irithnova of doing- telling her, a Filipino, that she wasnāt allowed to criticize racebent depictions of America, thereby trying to control POC.
If your response to this is āWell, sure irithnova didnāt deserve the harassment, but she was still wrong to criticize racebending because it wasnāt her place!ā I would like to remind you of the following points:
Scroll up to the top and read this essay again. Regardless of tone used, there are valid reasons for POC to dislike and criticize depictions of racebent countries.
irithnova, as a Filipino living in the West and has Filipino relatives in the USA, is intimately aware of the nature of American imperialism and racism against POC. The United States promised to help the Philippines achieve independence but instead robbed it of its sovereignty, putting down resistance to its takeover and instituting American rule because they viewed Filipinos as ālesserā and incapable of governing themselves because of their race. If it isnāt irithnovaās place to feel uncomfortable (and thus criticize) racebent America, then whose is it?
Finally, I want to emphasize one more thing- First Nations/Indigenous individuals have a unique relationship to the colonial settler states that occupy their land. Like Iāve said so many times, I cannot tell any POC how to feel or what to do, and even more so in this case because I myself am not First Nations/Indigenous; Iāve only provided arguments about the pitfalls of racebending and the merits of other forms of representation. But just as how I cannot tell you what to feel or do, nobody can stop other POC feeling put off by a racebent America.
At the end of the day, despite the who-knows-how-many paragraphs Iāve spent articulating the reasons against racebending canonically white nations, I cannot stop anyone from racebending nations if they wish to. But I do hope readers come away with a better understanding of the flaws of racebending, and the benefits of looking away from the Western mainstream and looking elsewhere to represent our experiences as diaspora and minorities. If youāre someone who engages in racebending, but still chose to read this 6K word long essay on the Hetalia fandom, I canāt express my gratitude enough for hearing me out. Honestly, anybody who read through this entire post deserves an award- Thanks for reading š
#jazzed about getting to use the word 'treatise' for the first time#hetalia#// disk horse#// racism#// colonialism#alternative title: a 6000 word long defense of irithnova
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Is Trailblazer going to be a massive hypocrite towards EVERY galaxy ranger? First, they have the gall to give Boothill a hard time for doing things that are mean or against the law- when one of their ult lines is "rules were made to be broken", and they're perfectly happy with breaking laws and peoples bones themself. Now, they're being rude towards Rappa even after she saves them and is super nice towards them just because she acts weird- yet their own main personality trait is 'look at how WEIRD and QUIRKY I am hehe'. Which technically isn't as bad as with Boothill because it doesn't seem to be directly racist, but it's still really fucking annoying.
#also#jesus christ is this unnecessary filler arc#full of poorly hidden racism#the focus on monkeys in the jazz age place#the rappa stuff others have already brought up#the scene where the only black(?) ch#was an antagonistic npc#(i say black(?) bc this is obviously#the jazz age place#but these npc's don't look very black do they?)#honkai star rail#hsr#honkai star rail critical#hsr critical#boycott hoyoverse#hsr trailblazer#hsr stelle#hsr caelus#hsr boothill#hsr rappa#rappa#boothill#trailblazer#stelle#caelus#my post
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Black people created nearly every major music genre in America, yet black people are underrepresented in industry leadership and awards. Itās been this way since the beginning of the music industry. At the core of this phenomenon is a paradox: Americaās admiration for black culture has always coincided with its blatant disdain for black people. Millions of black Americans have to navigate a society that shamelessly sees so much value in their creations, yet so little value in their wellbeing. And nowhere is this unsettling truth more evident than in the history of American music.
#black culture#black people#black history#black music#music#good music#cognitive dissonance#race in america#racism#racial issues#racial inequality#cultural appropriation#hiphop culture#culture#african culture#african america history#black americans#black american culture#blacklivesmatter#black lives matter#black excellence#black art#article#black artist#jazz#blues#rap#r & b#country
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A long-ass testimonial as a player of Honkai: Star Rail. please read if you have the time. I wish all honkai content creators would bear to understand this
goin through exhaustion rn but thats just normal and not something id complain about. Anyways when this game released in summer 2023, I was just as hyped as everybody else. I had started playing since the last closed beta where I had gotten bailu and mained qingque cuz she felt so real for being lazy on the job plus i LOVED playing hard and winning big.
I had a fun time later when the game ACTUALLY did release though I had to say goodbye to my bailu who I replaced with Clara and mained Seele who I knew from playing Honkai Impact for quite a while. I felt like i fit in with every other HI3/HSR player, running high spd seele with bronya and taking my silver wolf to every Simulated Universe fight, and laughing about getting rolled by the blue gorilla that hates when people use skills. I laughed at the launch memes everyone else was laughing at and usually was the first person to beat new bosses fights and stories when they came out.
I've realized that just because you think you fit in with people, doesn't mean they'll act like you do fit. They watch you trip, and struggle, and when the thing you like starts slinging venom at you, they let you fall. They laugh when you get hurt and protect what hurt you. Now when I started this game, as a black guy I was aware dumb, racist things were gonna pop up, as we know with genshin impact with the whole ass glass bottle floating around calling desert explorers/fighters "sand-lickers", and Honkai Impact's one black character being one who hates her dark skin and bleaches it consistently with makeup. She's also the only character to never get special outfit effects. Naturally, I did not bat an eye at the dark skin lightning guy having the SHACKLE BREAKER and SWIFT HARVEST SKILLS.
as we may know im a lore guy who thinks a lot. there is no "character reference" or wordplay that holds up here. This is dumb associations made to dark skinned individuals for doing slave work(harvesting.) and being held in chains(shackle). Anyways somehow even though this eluded me, I found it odd that the one dark skinned character in the roster was the bad one. People would make all kinds of excuses but never show anything concrete. Arlan himself is lacking the skill point mechanic which literally bars him from an entire simulated universe path. see my notes on him here . Point is this got worse as time went on, to a point where this fan that was still crazy hyped after the Xianzhou arc hype was watching every promotional video for the next region. Penacony, and got hit with the revelation that their next region was going to be based on the Jazz Age. Jazz is known throughout the world as one of the most widely celebrated creations of black people for the rest of the world, and the soul of Jazz, Funk, Pop, and many other types of music rest in black history, black stories, and black emotions. I'd rather not revisit the complete amalgation of this soul that is that dumb fucking region with the slave master and the incel-heaven slur slinger invading the quantum meta, but I should still add that the story is an incredibly half-assed take at introducing evil concepts like slavery and trying to add nuance to them. I played through so many routes where there was some implication of slavery benefitting a future society, and there was this one awful point i had to check out at where the player uses CLOCKWORK TO FIX THE MIND OF A DISCONTENT FREED SLAVE SO THEY SEEK THEIR MASTER AGAIN. There is no "makes sense in context" or "theres lore behind this" because that should be taken at face value. Their disgusting apparition of the Jazz Age should not be justified and glorified the way it is today. I believe in protecting the history of those who paved the way for me and I also would like to believe that I shouldn't have to fight to not deal with mockery within games or shows I enjoy. This whole experience I've had has tainted this game for me. I was listening through my fighting game playlist earlier and WHITE NIGHT came on. The first time I had heard it I thought it was amazing and wanted to make a cover of it and enter the 2024 fan art contest. But when I heard it for the most recent time, I wanted to vomit. This 'fun party' song was empty and felt like it was slinging lies of joy and entropy in my face. I couldn't celebrate the media that glorified excusing my people from society. And I really don't get WHY everyone else does. As somebody whose played a lot of mainstream games I've seen a crowd that acts woke to social issues and seemed to stand up in the face of injustice. I don't KNOW any internet culture so i thought activist = good person. recently ive seen and interacted with a lot of "activists" that were willing to watch this billion dollar company perpetuate racism, stereotypes and appropriation. This is usually because the company had given them a "complex" png with "emotions" that was "coded" to be made for them. and their character's emotions outrank real people's emotions in their interactions. these activists were more likely to listen to the billion dollar company's machinations of a white girl fairy princess or whatever their latest obsession was, than real people.
its been tiring and its been sickening. excuse me for being too real for a second but I AM SICK AND TIRED OF MENTALLY ILL WHITE PEOPLE ONLINE TELLING ME RACISM IS A CHARACTER TRAIT OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT, OR SOMETHING THAT SPICES UP A NARRATIVE. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. what if we had characters that were abusers, huh? or pedophiles? and what if those characters never had to deal with consequences of their actions? and what if everybody was worshipping the writing team making these hero abusers, and hero pedophiles? would it suddenly make sense then?
can people stop hyping this awful shit up? Pick up a different game or something. stain their brand. Have an audience for your star rail content? can you draw like trees or something,..... instead? this is not a good game and it does not do good things. The developers are incels with a large cult following. They are not good people, they say the right things. stop feeding them. do something else. pick something else up. play something else. I know people may find their games and content dear to yall but if racism is worse to you than losing a game, boycott these rich, selfish snakes.
#honkai star rail#hsr#penacony#honkai discussion#the jazz age#hoyoverse#fuck hyv#fuck hoyoverse#star rail#hsr discussion#honkai#honkai sr#listen#racism
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anyways i love jazzprowl with all my heart but iām on the fucking edge with the utter garbage coming out of ao3 (in particular) and i am this šš¼ fucking close to making a fucking list name dropping authors who post stereotypical or racist shit
like i try to assume the best of people and ignorance over maliciousness intent, i really do, but some of this shit is grade-school level āyou donāt fucking say that??" and like there truly is no explanation other than willful ignorance at best
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I have to admit, I am attracted to others.
#black people#white people#drugs#marijuana#reefer madness#drug war#racism#hispanic#negro#jazz musicians#satanic#cannabis#weed#blunt
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Quick doodle with Armin. He grew up with his eyes nailed to this chubby doll and didn't had the guts to call herr until started going crazy!! š¤Æš¹
#LOL THEY'RE SO CUTE#i've seen so many cases of racism in this shit that i feel like drawing 7128x more black ppl with AOT#why people are like this bad!!!??!!!!!!!!???#btw I loved they two so bad š¢š¢š¢š¢ā¤ļøā¤ļøšā¤ļøšā¤ļøšā¤ļøš#armin#armin arlert#aot x black reader#attack on titan x reader#i'm very tired so i posted on my personal#ya like jazz#my art#my doodles
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You know, I am really cautious of people that say they like Jazz and say that Jazz is their favorite character because how come am I the only Jazz fan I see that complains about how this fandom treats him?
I see people overly sexualize him left and right, describing him in fics as promiscuous and a slut. You guys made fun, criticizing or down right demonize the way he speaks by calling it thug or gangster or having characters make fun of how āimproperā he is.
Never mind the fact that he is using AAVE, an actual dialect with rules which I am tired of seeing fanfic writers butcher, and when I complain people are just like āWhere?ā And Is likeā¦ are we not in the same fandom? Because I am over here struggling to find fics with Jazz in it where the character has some sort of autonomy, and finding racist trope after racist trope.
is always:
-ā He is promiscuous and implied to have slept with a ton of peopleā and is looked down and criticized by other characters for this. Not to mention the fact that tfs are a cannonically an asexual species, but lets focus on the fact that our most prominent Black-coded character is seen as a slut by the fandom. Or how this feeds into the āBlack Domā trope.
-āJazz is speaking [And the writer obviously has no idea AAVE is a thing because they are writing gibberish]ā and another character goes āOmg he is so improper š„°ā How much does it cost to research AAVE? Or better yet, not use it and describe the accent?
-āJazz is said to come out of the gutterā and how this is shown as the reason why he is so overly violent and promiscuous.
-āHe is a racer frame he always runs hotā Are you guys even hearing what you are saying? how do you write this and not realize how othering this is?
-āJazz does a bunch of morally dubious actions until a higher ranking Autobot shows him the good way [particularly Prowl and/or Optimus]ā What happened to characters, this character, having autonomy? Please I am just asking. Why canāt our black coded character have autonomy and think for himself? Why does a āwhiteā perceived character (one of which is usually a cop) have to string him the right way when Jazz in cannon, is not just highly capable and intelligent, but always shown as competent.
And it wouldnāt be so frustrating if the fics where this happened other characters seemed to get a similar treatment, but no, is always Jazz and or characters that are also Black-coded.
And donāt come at me and say āHe is a robotā because if the fandom can agree with something is that the pretender figure might have had light skin, but that wasnāt Jazz. At least 90% of the Humanformers fanart done in America, as well as cannon media, depicts Jazz as a dark skin Black Man. Choose another excuse as to why this fandom mostly writes their most prominent Black Coded character under racist stereotypes.
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[jigsaw voice] hello white tumblr user. youll notice you are wearing headphones. in front of you is a rap album, a jazz album, and a reggae album. you have to listen to one without making some weird ass racist comment about these songs. You have to find at least one song on the album that you like. you have 60 seconds
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alright I know you haven't talked about this in a while but you're pretty correct about the way jazzprowl is written usually being weird. One or both of them is always portrayed in a weird offensive way (it's either racist towards jazz, portrays prowl as an ableist stereotype, BOTH, and MORE)
I agree with this. It took me a while to think of what I could add to this and I think I'd also say: it's important for everyone to know that when I see people injecting bonus ableism into fics with these characters in them, Jazz is also normally portrayed as an ableist stereotype (racist as well as ableist)! Whenever Jazz is written as being super disruptive, lazy, and chaotic, or when he's written as super violent and scary and people use terms like "schizo" (I'm sorry but I've seen it) to describe him, these all fall into the overlap between racism and ableism. It's the same bigotry that in the real world results in Black men and boys to be deemed disruptive and violent over their peers. And I probably don't need to say it at this point, but the character Jazz has never been portrayed like this in any media, not even close. And there has also never been canon media where Jazz disrupts an ultra-rigid Prowl into changing anything about himself (and there never should be because that sucks). Hey, is now a good time to point out that in the G1 comics, as far as I can tell Prowl is just one of the many, many Autobots who are massive Blaster fans and they have nothing but positive interactions, and Blaster in those comics actually is a super disruptive, loud, angry, sometimes violent character? I mean, they have to be friends because they both hate Grimlock....
I also think something I haven't discussed as often but is equally important is that we should all be looking at canon with a critical eye as well. If you look at the way some IDW writers like James Roberts, Nick Roche, and John Barber wrote the characters, they utilized a lot of extremely problematic tropes as well. For example, I personally balk every time I see someone saying that Barber did Jazz justice, when what he did to him was make his entire story center on cops and police brutality and barely let him grow or find any community. He also decided that Jazz's backstory would be that he was a beat cop on Cybertron... I think it's bizarre for anyone to look at how Jazz has been portrayed over time and think it makes total sense for that of all things to be his backstory. I'll also just never forgive Barber for writing that issue where he had Prowl point a gun at Jazz's head to get his attention, and had Jazz making fatphobic jokes about Prowl (weird in context for SO many reasons), and also tried to resolve the issue with some kind of friendship moment despite all of that.
Roche, JRo, and Barber also knowingly took every trait Prowl had as a character before their storiesāones easy to perceive as signs of disabilityāand twisted them into signs of cartoonish evil (I know Barber seems to think he did not write him as a flat evil character, but he's kidding himself). Understandable meltdowns about stressful situations and injustice get turned into a running gag and scary villainy, a lack of social awareness and literal thinking get turned into the most flatly evil dialogue I've ever seen ("You can apologize later," anyone?), a drive to make everything just and fair and better for everyone gets turned into arrogance (Barber, the fact that you wrote this character saying something like, "What's morality got to do with any of this?" means you failed). I especially hate these decisions because these writers also showed a ton of favoritism towards this character. You could feel how much they LOVED making him as revolting as possible while also making sure that instead of facing reasonable consequences he'd always go through the most disturbing, traumatic, worst shit ever so there wasn't even the catharsis of fair consequences... while also giving him tons of prominence.
I say all of this because both canon and fandom works should be examined critically and that IMO it's not only a good idea to not make things worse in fanworks, but also probably a good idea to go along with the better parts of canon and not the super problematic parts.
#It's starting to seem like my acc may have been terminated for a day due to being reported for spam over some hot take I posted#time to be even spicier I guess LMAO#racism#ableism#transformers#maccadam#Jazz#Prowl#JazzProwl#my analysis#long post
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this entire Music Taste debate thing re:rap is getting annoying really fast. Im not USian enough for this.
#tho like. ''ohhhh i dont like it its too violent'' this argument is lame as shit. youre weak lmao. coming from a funk enjoyer#its just annoying as fuck how are always supposed to care about the us and everything about us culture all the time#i listen to rap. i dont listen to us rap however.#i literally spent an entire week last month going thru historical archives of brazilian rap n shit#which is MY culture i guess#n im not even trying to tote my metaphorical horn or anything. i like music history. and the story of br hiphop ties to br funk n SAMBA!#and its really cool! i like a bunch of them. i know the history of rap in my country and how THAT ties to racism and shit#but noooooo if i dont listen to List of 15 artists whether you want to or not youre racist#if youre going to make recommendations at least make them appealing? lmao. not guilt trippy!!!!#i dont listen to rap in english very often because i cant process english that fast. skill issue time. the vibes from the songs are cool!#but its just not my go to music!!!! if i want to listen to hiphop ill just grab my trusty Brazilian oldies#i know dj marlboro got me.#i listen to a lot of genres. from us country to caipira raiz to japanese grindcore. i enjoy a buncha indian songs even. the scales FUCK#idk#i know this is the American Racism website but can't i just enjoy my countries shit in peace. if i don't listen to yours in racist now????#i dont even got anything against it. in fact i like it. but why do i have to listen to (insert large unfiltered list here) of yours Or Else#i know you wont listen to mine if i recommend it???? like none of it.#a lot of it feels like virtue signaling lol listen to this or youre racist watch this or youre racist#and you do not want to be a bad person do you?????#sometimes just understanding why things are the way they are is enough. you dont need to enjoy everything. thats ok. if hiphop isnt for you#then thats fine#just like. stfu. stay on your lane when people who know more about it than you are talking about it#it isn't that hard#one just needs to acknowledge things. hiphop and jazz and blues are extremely important to modern music and culture#but not everybody likes it. and thats fine. the same way a lot of people dont like white girl breakup song number 469. thats also fine#and like. i listen to hiphop! not my go to but i like it. blues is also nice vibes sometimes. but idk the artists that deep.#as a foreigner thats fine ig#but a lot if those posts sound guilt trippy as fuck for the a lot of us arent from your country š
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So I love transformers everyone whoĀ knows me knows this. And when Transformers Rise of the Beasts came out I enjoyed it immensely. Me and a friend were talking about finally some black people, finally some culture in this franchise. But I didn't post about it because i knew I would get whytes in my mentions like this.
Not only are they comparing these characters, but they are pulling a bunch of whataboutism. "Miko was in Transformers Prime, so there has been POC" ok...we can't have more? Also OP brought up specifically black characters. Every character brought up to try to bring down the positivity of the post was either an asian character or a whitino as if that should be enough, we should be satisfied with that one POC in a franchise that's existed since the 80s.
#i woke up thinking about this!#i don't normally join discourse and such but its been on my brain!!!#transformers#they brought up jazz...a robot sometimes portrayed as a black man because his name is jazz#i love jazz but yall so stupid#transformers rise of the beasts#fandom racism
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Ella Fitzgerald arrested after singing to an integrated audience in 1955. (Via)
#ella fitzgerald#segregation#jazz legend#racism#dizzy gillespie#1955#1950s#all about jazz#verve records#great american songbook#harlem#duke ellington#louis armstrong#bepop#swing#scat singing#buddy rich#cole porter#eartha kitt#george gershwin#jazz#antonio carlos jobim#st. louis blues
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So I was grabbed hold of by my music hyperfixation today and it turned out, today's the day I learn more about the history of American music as made by African Americans. Since, you know, they did most of it.
I've known for a long time that American music has deep roots in Black experiences and culture, but it was always such a behemoth of genres and artists that I didn't know what exactly I liked or where to start.
So, today, I figured I'd do what I do best and start with all of it at once.
Okay, not exactly. I'm doing it in chronological order. But in order to accurately order the shitload of playlists and folders I was making on Spotify, I needed to know what order those genres were discovered in.
I am not in school for this, I'm not educated on this and, as a white person, I don't feel like I have the nuance, experience, or understanding to properly write a massive post about this topic, but I did want to share a few articles I've read today, because they were extremely well-written (as far as I can tell), informative, and moving.
Reasons to Read These
African Americans have been the driving force in just about every music genre that's come out of America. If you don't already know that, or want to know more, you should read these.
Do you find music and musical evolution fascinating? You should read these.
Are you queer? Disco is part of queer culture as well and the overlap between Black and queer culture in that time period leans heavily on disco, which is fascinating and part of your own history. You should read these.
If you care about racial tensions in the US, the article that talks about Earth, Wind, & Fire goes into the ways disco impacted racial tensions in the US in the late 70s. It's good knowledge to have under your belt. You should read these.
Bonus shout out to The Get Down on Netflix. I watched this a year or two ago and was obsessed with it for a few days until the fixation passed. This is part of the driving inspiration for me looking into the history of disco and hip-hop so extensively today, because the vibes in the show were just... enrapturing. And, looking at the Wikipedia page for it to double check how it was received by people who know more than me, it does seem to have good reception. I especially like that they involved historical pioneers in its creation (DJ Grandmaster Flash, who invented modern use of turntables for hip-hop, DJ Kool Herc, and Kurtis Blow, all in their 60s and part of the original hip-hop scene in the Bronx). So if you want to watch something that will get you hyped about disco and hip-hop, I can just about promise you that'll do it. Needless to say, I will be rewatching it very soon.
Long but detailed and very well written. Has many artist suggestions:
A shorter summary for someone who wants a quick read:
I hope some of you will click through and learn something with me today c:
#music#history#music history#jazz#disco#hip hop#rap#queer#queer history#black history#blm#black music#black music history#earth wind and fire#african american music#racism mention
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me: maybe iāll read some jazzprowl before i go to bed. hmmmā¦ ok iāll finally give this fic a try, even though iām a bit worried about how a jp fic is going to handle this premiseā¦
the fic:
me: yeah no itās time to go to bed.
#not pictured here: the following scene where the sirens lure the noble fisherman to their deaths overboard and eat them!!!#honestly the JP fandom is fucking SHAMEFUL sometimes#yes i DID comment on this fic and YES i did call them out on this shit#girl you should be SLAPPED#i implore ppl in our fandom to call this shit out#at this point i should just know to steer clear of fics that set up prowl and not jazz as the main character#b/c i think the real problem is fucking pillow princess prowl diehards#jazzprowl#transformers racism#racism in tf#tf jazz racism#just GENERAL racism not even jp related#purs rant#purs post
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