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luminyra · 27 days ago

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So i watched the HTTYD live action recently and absolutely LOVE IT😭 so color me surprised when i saw so much discourse about it on Tiktok, one of the ones that sticks out to me the most is that the people that liked it simply "don't appreciate animation" and "can't see it's a cash grab" which is so????

Like as far as i know, yes Dreamworks was gonna make it whether the og creator liked it or not but he himself decided that if it was gonna be made HE was gonna make sure it was good, and also took it upon himself to make it like such by rewriting what he thought were mistakes and missed opportunities, so really even if it technically is frame to frame replica of the og animation, it still have some uniqueness to what it is, and it doesn't mean that one can't appreciate the og's animation, like hell some people might still like the og design of The Red Death better than what they did with the live action and STILL like the live action one!

Also most of the discourse about how they changed up some characters, more empathizing on the physical aspect rather than personality, which to me the physical aspect one i think it boils down to: unless the character's identity is based on a physical attribute, why would it be such a turn off if they are different? like Astrid's actress doesn't look like the og, but she embodied the baddie that the og Astrid was so perfectly, like being blond isn't the reason the og Astrid was a baddie be fr.

I do understand the personality argument a lil more especially with people that these characters could be their hyperfixation and/or comfort ones but i think that even then they portrayed them very accordingly, and also people don't get that its not really easy to convey different emotions and stuff from comical animation to live action, as the case can be viceversa, so i think they did great with what they could.

And also the DRAGON DESIGNS??? ugh I'm obsessed, as someone that their fav dragon portrayal media is Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, people criticized them for making the dragons be like Game of Thrones-fied but i think they look sooo cool, especially Hookfang, when i saw the live action trial of fire i think it solidified that what they were submitting Hiccup to do was ACTUALLY dangerous, especially how the made the Monstruous Nightmare ACTUALLY look like a nightmare, to the point i actually felt concerned for Hiccup, not saying the animation is a bum but it definitely conveyed more "monstruous" than what i remembered from the animation, especially since the animation was so light hearted (since it was a kid movie) and seeing Toothless GO FOR THE THROAT and allat battle made it seem like "oh we being real real here"

A fun detail i adored was that i found out that the person in charge (or involved idk) for the dragon designs was someone that had made dinosaurs for the Jurassic saga (which im also a fan of), and it made me realize why i thought the Deadly Nadder and Monstruous Nightmare mannerisms and looks reminded me of dinosaurs, Stormfly acted so much like a raptor to me, especially taking in consideration that raptors are ancestors of birds and the Deadly Nadders is based on a bird while being a reptilian like creature!��

And the Red Deathhhh was so epic, in my view they scaled her up more in comparison to the animation or simply they made that ilusion, but this design really made it terrifying and like an actual threat, if the rumours are true that HBO want to do Aegon's Conquest from ASoIaF series, Balerion MUST be around that size or even bigger if possible🤌

Finally i think its a me thing but im OBSESSED with this Hiccup, someone mentioned that even if they didnt change up how Hiccup was treated in comparison to the og, making it live action conveyed how harsh it actually was, and i think thats what make me IMO like this live action Hiccup over the animated one, unpopular opinion i know but i truly feel like that😭🤞

#Luu rants #i loved this movie sm bummer that i didnt see it in the cinema</3 #how to train your dragon #httyd #how to train you dragon live action #game of thrones #house of the dragon #a song of ice and fire #toothless

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reallyprofoundkryptonite · 1 year ago

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The reason why I don’t make Dragon related Krogan designs based on Singetails

Singetails do not match his vibes AT ALL.

Krogan did not choose Singetails because of the way they looked but because he knew they were a dragon that most would not know how to handle or be able to fight back against because there is very little information on them.

The shape language between Krogan’s character design and Singetail Creature Design DOES NOT FUCKING WORK TOGETHER.

Combining singetail anatomy with human anatomy also really does not work at all. You can do it of course, but it definitely doesn’t work right at ALL unless you remove major parts of Krogan himself or throw in another dragon in there to balance out the singetail and its goofy ass anatomy.

They have two different aesthetics that also, again, DO NOT WORK TOGETHER. AT ALL.

I have been asked too many times as to why “I didn’t base Krogan on a singetail” like it is the most obvious and clear as day answer as to what dragon he SHOULD be. (It’s not. Making him a singetail is not even in like. The top 100 of dragons that would be a good fit for him aesthetic wise.)

With Krogan, slapping the “rider looking like their dragon” trope on him is stupidly overrated and overused because I really do not fucking like it because it’s annoying and there is like a million other canon species that would work MUCH BETTER for him. (Red Death, Furies as a whole, Monstrous Nightmares, Deadly Nadders, and Deathgrippers are all species that would one hundred percent do him more justice than a goddamn Singetail.)

Thanks for coming to my discussion. I do like singetails from a design standpoint. They are just literally way too stupid and goofy looking to be a good fit for Krogan for any designs to actually work.

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chonkchu · 4 days ago

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My thoughts on The HTTYD LA

Definitely in-depth lmao

What I Liked:

- The shot of the dragons attacking the ships when Stoick and the other vikings set sail to find the nest was good. I still like the original with just seeing the spooky flash silhouette of the monstrous nightmare, but actually just seeing the battle itself go down feels more epic and you feel more bad for The Berkians and you get a better sense of where they’re coming from. They have a 100% valid reason to be stubborn and ignore Hiccup’s pleas later on and with Stoick’s argument with him too. Sure that’s already established in the story, but it’s more of seeing their pov and experience. Even more of this is felt since the only ship that returned happened to be only Stoick’s (plot convenience yes), but all the rest are missing and people were actually killed or injured.

- More acknowledgment to Valka! This is the problem I had in the original. Sure sequels weren’t planned back then, but the only thing mentioned about Hiccup’s mother was his helmet being made out of her breast plate which is supposed to be some kind of joke. We didn’t know what happened to her at all. It is nice to see her be brought up in the LA as well as the implications to what happened to her. Some respect right there.

- I actually really dig the new dragon designs (minus Toothless)! Though still naked in comparison, the new gronkle (or Meatlug mostly) has kind of grown on me now too. My personal favourites are the deadly nadders and I don’t mind the nightmares either! They might be more soulless or just generic-fied versions of the originals, but they still look like really sick dragons nonetheless! The zippleback was cool too! The Red Death, she’s okay; definitely way better in the original but I thought it was creative seeing Astrid being trapped in her mouth and using her battleaxe to break her teeth away. I prefer the original terrible terrors though, I mean the chameleon design is kind of creative, but the originals are just cuter to me and have more of a variety in colour too! They also pay a homage to the original Toothless from the books.

- While it did sound off at times (cause pacing) or it didn’t hit as hard cause its nature had to be toned down, the soundtrack is still S-tier! Loved the new Forbidden Friendship theme, and while I don’t understand the new Homeward motif, I still really liked how it sound in Allied Forces and it’s nice to get an expansion of literally the best movie score ever! I’ll admit, Test Driving Toothless has grown on me, but mostly from just listening to it on its own. The original will always be superior, both by ears and the scene itself. I watched the original just after and I still get mad chills from it. Powell is the GOAT!

- Reprising Gerald Butler’s role was probably the best thing we’ve got. Like dude is literally Stoick and I could see no one else replacing him. Probably the only character that still looks almost identical, sounds identical and acts identical to the animated counterpart!

- I’m still kind of mixed with this one: I liked how they made it more apparent that Toothless was the one who blasted holes in the Red Death’s wings. He did it in the original too, but with the camera angling and with how fast Toothless was going made it hard to see so the longest time, me and like many people thought her wings just happened to burn up after getting shot from inside lol. I still prefer the original though cause we actually get to see more of how a REAL night fury fights and it’s epic and makes sense he’s moving so fast in the dark to not see what he’s actually doing even though we know he’s attacking her! This is probably one of the only changes that I am okay with only cause of clarity.

- The small side plot between Snoutlout and his dad was kinda okay. I feel like this was just an unnecessary addition to put in the story though. I think it pays more homage to the original animated series where they explored the side characters more (which I’ve never watched but Ik Spitelout is a character in that and he didn’t respect his son that much. You can also see him as a background character in the original trilogy too). But yeah it’s short, unnecessary, doesn’t really resonate and Snotlout isn’t a major character either (though the actor played him well!). The movie is already doing this with Hiccup and Stoick so what?

- There’s a couple things I liked about this new Astrid. Nico’s a good actress! She’s got what I’ll say most of her character right. Still pretty competitive when it comes to battling. I also really like how they portrayed Hiccup subduing Stormfly behind one of those wooden shield things in the montage scene. Like she looks like she’s eating him in Astrid’s eyes and so she goes to charge her just to see the dragon collapse on the ground with a clever Hiccup standing lol.

- Hiccup’s actor isn’t too bad but he’s not as awkward as the original which I think is very important for a character like him who can’t fit in at all. I do really like his argument with Stoick about the dragons and defending Toothless. “WE’VE KILLED THOUSANDS OF THEM” actually really hits, but the original still does this argument pretty well too, especially when Stoick actually pushes him away to tell him he’s not a viking or his son. Just the extra shot of Stoick staggering after realizing what he says hits cause you realize he doesn’t really mean that, he’s just super upset, angry that this all happened. Idk how to describe it but you probably know but the LA did not quite capture that.

What I Disliked:

- Still Astrid is just a stuck up girl boss. She can’t be chief cause what would that make Hiccup as he’s the son of the chief? Her being super jealous and mad that Hiccup suddenly knows how to “subdue” dragons was enough already, no? The only thing I was okay with is maybe the slight slow-burn with Hiccup’s relationship as Astrid still wasn’t into him (as much) even during the romantic flight scene since in the original I did kind of found it odd how she suddenly falls in love him around that point aside from agreeing to help him protect Toothy; sure maybe there was slight implication in the opening in the original to her liking him but I wouldn’t say that’s enough. Just idk this version of Astrid to me is more stoic that Stoick The Vast lmao. Again, Nico is a great actress! Just needs better direction and the poor writing doesn’t help.

- I also found Hiccup is more of a simp for Astrid in this and idk it just feels off for his character. Like duh yeah he had a crush in the original, but it was not as apparent as this. Like just before the romantic flight, when Toothless and him take her to a mountain, about to pull a Mufasa if she don’t comply 💀. I found he was more show-offy with Toothless and excited to have her ride on with him where as in the original, Hiccup approached the situation and took Astrid more seriously when they were up in the tree instead which is more logical cause your best friend’s life is at stake! He also didn’t expect to go on a flight with her where as in the new one it kind of felt like he knew it was gonna happen.

- Wtf is that stupid “gag” with the twins? The actors? Spot on for Tuffnut but my girl, Ruffnut? No offence to the actress but who tf is that? Is it really that hard to find a girl that looks similar to Ruff or even Tuff without having the actors be literal fraternal twins themselves?

- It feels weird for other nations to be included when they were discussing the dragon attacks. This kind of messes up a lot of things in the future sequels and no I’m not gonna buy into the whole “oh the sequel’s gonna be different from the original movie” bullshit cause they literally said the same shit about this one not being a shot for shot by the director and guess what? It’s still a shot for shot! They know people want what made the original good so they’re gonna copy it smh.

- I don’t know if it’s the actor but idk, I didn’t like Gobber that much in this version. He felt more assholish. The original as well, but he was funny and there were moments where he felt genuinely concerned for Hiccup’s safety like how an actual uncle figure should. That was important to show, even if it was just for a second. Compare the two scenes during the first gronkle battle right before Meatlug tried to take a shot for Hiccup’s head. There’s a big difference on how Gobber delivers his reaction and that helps show character.

- I HATE Toothless in this so much. The ruined his body, he’s less aerodynamic and cat-like. He literally is a drunk DOG with the way he behaves sometimes and walks; like he was straight up whimpering when he was panicking in chains during the RD battle. His eyes look so unnatural (including his face in some scenes like the RD battle) and are dilated way too often, like everything can be grey and gloomy on screen and this mf eyes are still emerald green popping out like a sore thumb. He was not even intimidating, mysterious or actually stealthily agile. Like if I had a dragon for the LA, deadass a nadder. The original? 100% a night fury. I hate this incarnation of Toothless more than THW one! His legs, his proportions, some times his sound design; he really looks more like a black lab than a panther! They want to make him innocent and more dumbed down! Also rip his original wing design. Literally just pull out specifically the 2010 model, shrink his eyes, update the graphics, maybe scale him and there you have a perfect real life night fury!

- I’ll admit, I only really found Toothless cute in the forbidden friendship scene when he’s urging Hiccup to eat the fish, (maybe a couple others) but that’s all it. The only other thing I liked about him is they brought back the blue tint to his scales… or well that’s what it looked like on my pirating source. Other clips outside of that and then other people too say he looks grey (he looks ashy, hence my edits to fix that) and some say he looks to have a more teal hue. Whatever, but they completely removed his reptile markings and that scars that were from Hiccup’s inflicted injury! He looks so bland and I don’t like how shiny this scales look sometimes. Better than the greasiness in THW’s design, but for something that’s supposed to blend in at night, Toothless shouldn’t be that shiny or iridescent.

- I also didn’t feel Hiccup and Toothless’ connection all that much either. Their friendship was there I guess, but it literally feels like it’s a side plot rather than a key thing and it feels more like a boy and his horse-dog hybrid rather than a boy and his dragon buddy WORKING together.

- Voice/acting direction could be a lot better for the teens. Some of the remade scenes with them feel just cringy to me and were way better in the animation cause the character’s exaggeration and how the shot works actually hits? Like it felt weird and it didn’t execute well seeing LA Fishlegs getting nerdy with the dragon stats when Gobber was running through with the dragon species right before their first battle with the gronkle. Again nothing wrong with the actor, like I genuinely feel like this version of Fishlegs is the second closest character to be very similar to the animated counterpart, it was just one of the scenes I could remember that didn’t translate well in the LA.

- Sure those nature shots were beautiful, but the atmosphere was actually nerfed at some parts. Some of it was nice, but some of it was used at the wrong time or it was just really poor; like the infamous scene with Hiccup finding Toothless for example: why tf is it so sunny??? The tension combined with how Toothelss’ behaved with the pacing just doesn’t make the scene as scary or mysterious… at all? If you want to show off the scary dragon no one has not ever scene and underline the emphasis of “the unholy offspring of lightning and death” then add to the atmosphere, but ig they want him cute from the start despite of him being a WILD ANIMAL! Another example of poor atmosphere/quality is how fucking downgraded the aura borealis was compared to the original. They looked so fake and less breathtaking. What the hell? Test Drive scene again, wasn’t as epic no because of the pacing which is important for the theme song to shine but again it felt more like a parkour joyride rather than them honing in and trying not to fuckin’ die and I also blame the atomsphere for that too!

- Also the scenery. While I liked it and didn’t mind it too much as it was very forestry, but like the issue with the atmosphere, I felt like there was just too much of it sometimes. Like these guys really had a blast with a go-pro huh? ALSO WTF IS THAT ISLAND THEY LIVE ON!? IS THAT BERK!? It does not look special or something worth protecting. Maybe if they explained the dragons destroyed their architecture, sure, but then at least show more of the debris or destroyed viking statues then. Like this new Berk looks boring and so isolating. Like it’d make more sense to live there after the dragons made peace cause at least you can fly out to get resources to help make it more habitual (which is faster than sailing) lmao.

- Minor criticism. I forgot to add it’s nice to see other species of dragons in the background that were introduced later on in the franchise. Though my friend had pointed out as to why the skrill is in this? Aren’t they rare and are supposed to only come out during a storm? There was even one there at the end when viking and dragons are thriving together in harmony; just sitting out in the bg chilling on somebody’s house completely fine. What?

- One of the most jarring criticisms that even casual httyd fans are pointing out is why tf did they remove the scene after test drive with all those terrible terrors? When Toothless slyly shot one in it’s mouth that was about to fire at him first and got the terror critically from inside, this was acknowledged by Hiccup and later used this tactic to defeat the Red Death. Like why remove it? This explains how Hiccup got that genius idea in the first place and how he discovered that all dragons aren’t inherently bad.

- A lot of remake just had things that either felt they had the audience assume what’s going which isn’t right because not everyone has seen the original and the only reason this movie might’ve piqued their interest is cause it’s live action and with the nature of the movie = “ooh more adult friendly!” Like some people who are watching this haven’t seen the original. One of these examples is how they made Toothless feel more cutesy and innocent because they want people to fall in love with him in the start. He’s still a dragon, like bro was firing sneak attacks. He’s still supposed to be viewed as a monster in the beginning, just not at heart. They made him more doglike to not only make him more relatable to the audience but to punctuate “cute” and because that’s the Toothless people are unfortunately most familiar with from the other movies and commercials!

My conclusion:

Overall, it’s not bad for a remake when compared to the other LA garbage these days but not good either; just very rushed and unnecessary. I thought’d it’d be much more painful to watch, but really I just cringed at most of the Toothless scenes cause I feel he’s the one who got nerfed the most as well as the other glaring issues I’ve mentioned.

As with most live actions, I do not condone this and I’m still glad I pirated this! It would be fine if it was a a standalone remake MANY decades later ig, but the thing is that LA are the latest trend these days and that right there already pulls out what makes it special. It doesn’t seem like a honour of the original when how it’s advertised and the marketing makes it feel like it’s trying to be better than the og. Ofc Dreamworks is gonna follow that path and ofc they’re gonna pick the most action packed, successful, emotional movies to remake but now that’s it’s doing a good, this greenlights them to do more live action movies and I’m not just talking about the sequels. We’re entering the TRUE era of unoriginality people!

Please for the love of god, just watch and respect the original please. Don’t watch all this LA slop, no matter how tempting it is. It’s just like Disney’s unoriginal garbage.

Also thank you for sharing the pirating source, you know who you are if you see this!

#also please keep in mind I’ve only watched this once so my memory might not be 100% accurate for the LA #it’s the best I can summarize #httyd live action analysis #httyd live action criticism #opinions #movies 2025 #live action #probably gonna be one of the last httyd salt posts for a bit #not feeling the fandom rn

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bokettochild · 2 years ago

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If dragon warriors was in a dragon class from httyd, which class would he be in?

I hate to be cliche, but I have to say the Strike Class.

Each classification of dragons is rather specific, and while, yes, Strike Class dragons are the ULTIMATE dragons and thus the ones that EVERYONE wants, the fact remains that Warriors wouldn't fit anywhere else.

Stoker class is marked by dragons with particularly strong flames or flame based skill-sets. Granted, Warriors' fire is blue and thus Extremely Hot (just like him lol) it's just one facet of his skillset, and hey, technically the hottest fire in the dragon world actually belongs to the Deadly Nadder, which is a Tracker Class dragon! (Originally classified as Sharp Class but they updated that with the creation of Tracking Class because Nadders have one of the strongest noses as well).

Granted, Dragon!Warriors also has a keen nose and is decent at tracking (he literally found the camp again because he could sniff out Legend, Time, and Wind in the OG fic) but its not super strong, just stronger than a Hylian.

Clearly he's not a Boulder Class, I mean.... Boudler Class is fantastic and all, but they're the durable and strong ones, but also usually characterized as bulky and not the swiftest fliers. He lacks the stealth of a Mystery Class dragon (be it smoke, invisibility or camouflage as are all common in that class), the spiky-ness of Sharp Class dragons (he has spikes and horns, but not any more than the average dragon, and they're not particularly sharp or dangerous) and he just isn't anything remotely RELATED to Tidal Class dragons! Or really Fear Class.... He's sort of tame in comparison.

Strike Class Dragons though are known to be: highly intelligent, fast, agile, powerful, and tend to be more mystical than the average dragon in the HTTYD universe. Warriors is certainly bigger than most Strike Class dragons (nightfurys, skrills, howls, triple strikes, snow-wraiths, ect.) but the criteria rather suit him all the same. I've also noticed that Strike Class dragons tend to be less flock reliant and more likely to either be loners or choose one specific individual whom they resonate with, forming a bond that is utterly and completely unbreakable no matter the circumstances.

Granted, all the dragons in HTTYD are depicted as loyal and loving, but it's most prominent in Strike Class dragons who will choose that One Person over ANYTHING else (we don't talk about HTTYD 3 here, so we're ignoring that mess), which also is definitely something Warriors would also do. Like, yeah, they look out for others as well, but when given the choice between anyone and Their Person, they will choose Their Person if they can and are allowed. Additionally, if anything prevents them from being with Their Person, they go a little nuts and/or become highly distressed if it's by Their Person's doing.

So yeah, much as I hate to just e predictable like this, Warriors is a Strike Class Dragon at heart :)

#congradulations!#you unlocked my old hyperfixation!#httyd dragons my beloveds #lu warriors #dragon warriors #linked universe #linkeduniverse #asks and answers

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storm-flyer · 8 months ago

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Continuing my rewatch of Dragons: Riders of Berk, with episode 7, "How to pick your dragon"

Hmmm... I think it's stoick picking a dragon? I kinda thought he got his dragon later but idk

- spOoky destroyed ship

- 'As chief of berk, I do things the viking way, not the dragon way.' 'Well, the viking way is costing us a lot of fish.' see, hiccup is capable of caring about the state of the food stores. So long as it helps his argument.

- 'Gobbers right, I should learn to fly. When do we start the lessons?' 'I don't know, shouldn't we ask gobber?' hiccups feeling petty today I see

- 'Before you get on a dragon, you've got to show him he can trust you.' 'He already trusts me. I'm his chief!' like father like son, overestimating how much human stuff dragons understand

- 'I didn't come here to hold hands hiccup' this is going to go well, isn't it.

- 'You feel that?' 'Yeah, still dry and scaly'

- 'Dragons fault.' 'You gonna blame that on the dragon too, dad?' 'Yep.' at least he's honest

- 'Im done with this hiccup, I've got a village to look after' local man hasn't struggled at a task for 30 years, and now doesn't know how

- 'I want every one of those yaks back on its feet!'

- 'Look at them. Every one of my people. They're all safe. It's a good feeling' that's sweet

- 'Was that...' 'Unexpected, disturbing?' 'Yep.'

- 'At least you got your dad on a dragon.' 'Yeah, now I just need to figure out how to get him off one.'

- 'Why don't you just give him the old honey and the hatchet? You know, you tell him something he wants to hear, that's the honey part, before you hit him in the head with something he doesn't. You know, the hatchet' Astrid, I feel you're overestimating how well hiccup and stoick can communicate

- 'Why does your advice always involve weapons?' that's what you're signing up for hiccup

- 'Alright, you've given me the honey, now just give me the hatchet.' I find this unreasonably funny

- 'The monstrous nightmare is the only one with the brawn and prestige for men of our stature.'

- 'Sorry son. But I'm looking for a dragon, not a mother.'

- I feel like stormfly was done dirty here. I can understand stoick not wanting a gronkle or any dragon with more than one head, but he'd do pretty well with a deadly nadder. Fast, agile and a lot of firepower. Perfect for a chief flying around the island a million times a day.

- how did they even know the boat was being attacked? Yelling really, really loudly?

- it's him!!! Thornado!

- 'This is the one, hiccup! I found my dragon! Now all you have to do is train him for me!' careful what you wish for hiccup

- 'Friend, huh? Like me and gobber.' 'Yeah, perfect! What did you do when you two met?' 'Grr, that's my wife you're talking to!' maybe not the best approach for thornado

- 'Would you stop it dad, this is not bonding!' for stoick, I'm sure it is

- 'Well, your friends are an odd bunch, but they sure know what they're doing on those dragons.' 'Thank you, I think.'

- 'Ah, they smell the blood of your wounded friend.' never have boars been more terrifying

- 'Aw, look at us, we're bonding!'

- 'Dad still does things the viking way. Fortunately, me and toothless showed him that the viking way can also be the dragon way.'

In a pleasant surprise, hiccup and stoick actually communicated a little in this episode! And thornado is always a treasure

Onwards!

#how to train your dragon #httyd #dragons riders of berk #rewatch

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dragonmasterhiccup · 1 year ago

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Danny didn't reply, she just quickly exited the Great Hall, making sure to nudge Hiccup roughly as she passed him.

Hiccup didn't see Danny much for about a week, the only times she was actually in the villiage was for food and water, even then she didn't eat in the Great Hall, she just took a few things and went back to wherever she was staying, presumably the cove.

That did eventually change though when a villiager had come up to Hiccup and explained that their dragon, a Deadly Nadder, had gotten out of its stable had gone missing earlier that day. The villager also explained that the dragons wing was injured meaning that it couldn't have flown off the island...

He didn't react to the nudge, just let her pass, letting out a sigh after she had left and went back to working on repairing the village.

Things went back to normal quickly, the Vikings were really rallying together to repair all the damage that was done, and the dragons assisting with the heavy lifting was a huge help. Naturally, those dragons got extra fish for their trouble.

Hiccup and Toothless were up in the air as soon as he had all the information he needed to find that Nadder. They soared over the trees, looking for any signs of it, when he finally spotted it. "Quick! Down there, bud." They landed softly, close by but not right next to it, as he didn't want to spook her.

He slowly approached, arm extended, palm up. He spoke in a low, calm voice. "Hey, there. You alright? Your wing's bothering you, isn't it?" The nadder cocked its head, letting him place his hand on its snout. He looked quickly to see if she had any other injuries, but thankfully she seemed alright, aside from her wing being bent at an odd angle. The Nadder leaned into his touch, grateful to have found a friend. He made eye contact with the dragon. "Will you let me set your wing so it can heal?" The Nadder chirped, agreeing. "Alright. Toothless? I'm going to need some branches. I have some rope we can use to tie it together."

Toothless got to work plasma blasting a few branches that were the perfect size, as Hiccup continued to talk to the Nadder, giving her some fish he had brought, knowing she'd be hungry. "Don't worry, girl, we'll get you fixed up and back home in no time."

#asks #anons #how to train your dragon #how to train your dragon 2 #how to train your dragon: the hidden world #hiccup #httyd #hiccup horrendous haddock iii #hiccup haddock

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artificial-ascension · 29 days ago

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My thoughts on the live action HTTYD dragon designs, ranked worst to best:

Least favorite (.7) Nightfurry: Someone please moisturize Toothless. He looks ashy. His eyes are too soft. His wings aren't broad enough. I do like how he moves, as he's alot more animated when he takes off, but I just can't get over his general appearance. I think Toothless was already the most realistic design, and honestly, I feel like if you put Toothless from the original into the live action, it'd be better.

6. Gronkle: I like the direction they took the Gronkle in, however, it feels unfinished. I dislike the dull coloration and overly fleshy look. I also think it doesn’t look fierce like the original design. I think with a few tweaks it would look great but right now it looks like a slug.

5. Deadly Nadder: I have one note. Give it a more pronounced beak and larger head. That's really my only criticism; otherwise, the nadder looked wonderful. I especially liked how Stormfly has chipped head horns given how often she is hit in the head.

4. Hiddeous Zippleback: Zippleback looks fucking awesome. I feel like it still has alot of character despite the realistic style; however, it's a bit stubby and bulky for my liking. In the original Barf and Belch were very long and flexible, showcased best by the scene in which they back against the wall of their cage when Hiccup throws an eel in there, and while I love the stocky, muscular look of this design I think it could be toned down in favor of a more slender build.

3. Terrible Terror: I really love what they did with this thing. The terror has an overall simple design, so there wasn't much to adapt; however, I like the idea of it having chameleon eyes in place of its giant bulging ones. I do think its head looked a bit too much like a chameleon, but otherwise great critter.

2. Monstrous Nightmare: This was all I could have dreamed of. The nightmare in the new style looks amazing, it perfectly captures a mix of terrifying yet personable and powerful yet slender and agile. Its back spikes look really cool, and so do the details of its scales, having visibility gaps between them where its gel seeps out. It's perfect.

Favorite (1.) Red Death: Good lord, she is terrifying. She seems bigger in this, and she appears significantly more imposing. She's also actually red and her horn is massive. I don't have megalophobia, but she tried her hardest to give it to me.

Bonus. Skrill, Rumblehorn and mystery water dragons: Ok, so I have a theory that their models are unfinished since we never see close-ups or very clear images of them. Either way, they look ok from a distance but could probably look a bit less scuffed. I've seen the Skrill toy and its wing claws NEED to be upsized. Also, I have no idea what those mystery water dragons were. I'm thinking Sea Shocker or Shockjaw? They looked pretty good but we only see their backs.

#how to train your dragon #httyd #how to train your dragon 2025 #httyd 2025 #anyways I liked that movie fight me #I think it did a good job of putting the og in a new style and I liked many of a new scenes

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Something about this “Trader Johann” fellow rang off to Dart’s senses. He presented himself as amiable enough, but a sense of wrongness came from him… The Omnitrix user imagined part of it was the fact they hadn’t had an actual conversation in the almost two weeks here. Still, they could hardly discount when alarm bells were starting to ring in their head.

A shame Mildew was let out with a stern warning from the chief after what he did—the threat to throw him off the island should he try to frame the dragons again was better. Buying some type of plant wasn’t what they expected of him.

Regardless, they had business they needed done. The currently-a-terrible-terror flew onto the edge of the boat with a pouch tied to one of their legs. Trader Johann obviously grew concerned over even a small dragon being near his wares. Until he saw the note in its mouth. Dart admitted that the writing system here had much harsher lettering than they were used to, but they could read and write it somewhat now. Just don’t ask them to read back word for word on a giant block of text in a passage…

‘—Do you have: blank books, a map of the Archipelago, writing utensils, a blanket, soaps, ropes and a tarp? Scattershot has brought a sample of the glassworks.’

A note dropped from their mouth said.

Sue them—they couldn’t make everything they needed for the Warren and stealing from a village like Berk rubbed them the wrong way. This wasn’t the modern age where supplies were in excess. Scattershot let out a low hiss when Johann tried to manhandle them. Instead, they leapt over to a barrel and dig out the small sample of what they brought. A very detailed glass figurine of a baby Deadly Nadder.

Dart had really challenged themself in trying to get the proportions right without using Nanomech to do the fine work. Arguably, it looked a little awkward from the top down view.

They vehemently ignored the stares the other customers were sending their way.

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Ironically, Dart ended up receiving a few requests for certain items to be made out of glass from the “mysterious owner of the very mercantile little dragon”. He got them what they requested when they also handed over a few glass globes and a pearl they had found. Was probably shortening them by a bit, but there was only so much they could haggle through sending messages. Hiccup had watched the whole exchange gobsmacked.

Especially as “Scattershot” struggled to carry all the items its “owner” requested on its own.

The Omnitrix user had to literally duck into a barrel with the items in order to evade the dragon riders. Their actual Terrible Terror roommates knew not to mess with their stuff at this point. Dart had lived in a cat proof house once before so dragon proofing was easier.

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‘Really wonder how long you are going to be able to keep up charade—Dart that’s poison!’

Potbelly spewed lava out of sudden shock at the Omnitrix interrupting itself to inform them of apparent poison. The only thing they ended up destroying were some newly budding blue flowers. A feeling of incredulousness reverberated through them at the alien device.

‘Step away from those! My scans show they’re hazardous to your dragon form.’

The shapeshifter sidestepped the flowers now throwing an incredibly wary glance at them. It was serious when the Omnitrix was concerned for their safety. New flowers which were hazardous to dragons showing up all of a sudden in a dragon-friendly village? Very fishy.

—ROB’d Anon.

The Omnitrix constantly scans the environment to ensure no new elements are harmful to the user’s current form. Everything about the Blue Oleander rings out as hazardous. Also, Johann’s true nature is evident yet very hazy to Dart.

Dart absolutely knows Mildew has to be responsible since he did buy a mysterious plant. Also Trader Johann is suspicious to a degree. For now, they got poison to deal with. Hopefully a warning note to Hiccup about hazardous blue flowers can minimize the issue.

#sonicasura #sonicasuras answers #asks #anonymous #ben 10 #ben 10 series #ben ten #ben ten series #oc #original character #how to train your dragon #httyd

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limesandcoconuts · 5 months ago

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seeing the live action astrid now and her design is really pissing me off ESPECIALLY after this post.

Ive come around a lot on Nico Parker, I actually think shes looks so much like Astrid in the face but what the hell is with her design in the la ??

Astrid in the la has TWO BRAIDS I mean fine maybe its not that important but that completely debunks everything said in the post above, I think. Like Astrid having two braids is saved until she has children TWO children because thats what they represent. Or maybe they dont and its just hair and it was never that deep idk fuck me ig.

i think the thing that pisses me off most with her design is the RED 😭 WHY IS SHE WEARING RED ? again, maybe its just some clothes and its not that deep but i always thought Astrid wears blue in movie 1 because thats HER colour

then she wears red in movie 2 BECAUSE THATS HICCUPS COLOUR AND IT SHOWS HER SWITCH AND HER CONNECTION TO HICCUP and ITS SO CUTE its like hiccup having the deadly nadder symbol over his heart - theyre subtle designs to show they belong to each other, that theyre always with each other despite spending most of httyd 2 separated

and then in httyd 3 she wears BOTH colours, like her hair, shes come full circle and is comfortable being independent and herself but also being hiccups girlfriend.

NO. YOU KNOW WHAT? ITS MORE THAN JUST HAIR AND CLOTHES. ITS STORYTELLING. And its one of my favourite characters developments in media purely because of how subtle it is but it makes all the difference.

oh and not to mention her wearing blue is supposed to foreshadow stormfly, just like other riders. And you might say “but Astrid does wear blue in the movie, at the end” but she shouldnt be wearing red in one of her most important scenes, where we are first fully introduced to her because Astrid’s associated colour is BLUE. The same way that black and red or green and brown is associated with hiccup. if we dont associate her with blue, we dont associate her with stormfly.

but whatever. maybe I’m giving the original franchise too much credit…

I don't see anyone talking about how they showed Astrid's character development through her hair so I'm going to.

In HTTYD 1 we get this very emo lookin cut. Since the first movie is told through Hiccup's POV, it matches how he sees her: unapproachable, scary, and tough. Even the back of her hair, it's tied up tightly to show her uptight and no-nonsense attitude.

But after she sees Hiccup for who he is, she pushes her hair out of her eye so he can see her entire face. Almost like she's "letting him in", if not to be cliché. He gets to look her in the eyes when he talks to her, whereas before he avoided her stare.

Then we get to RTTE and her fringe is shorter and doesn't completely cover her eye as much. Her hair is much softer, showing how she herself has softened (preferring capture over kill missions as she says). And the back of her hair is looser and bounces about the place.

In HTTYD 2, there's not a huge change because RTTE happens pretty close to the second film but her hair is on the side now. You could take this as her being less uptight and war obsessed because a braid on the side isn't very practical for battle but she's a lot more relaxed about it now. Edit: also there hasn't been as much war in the last 5 years than there was before HTTYD 1 so choosing aesthetic over function is a lot easier to do. She doesn't have to sacrifice her beauty anymore for the sake of fighting.

And in HTTYD 3, her fringe is out of her face and her hair is fully let down. She's relaxed and comfortable with her femininity as well that she's so toned back from how angry she used to be in HTTYD 1 like she said, "I'm the person I am today because of you," - it really shows the effect her relationship with Hiccup has had on her. That he's made her comfortable to embrace her feminine side.

(side note, her hair in HTTYD 3 was gorgeous)

And you could even say her marital braids represent Zephyr and Nuffink.

I've just always loved how they showed her change through her hair, it's such a cool and subtle way to do something like that. And of course, it's beautiful 😁

#this is NOT hate to nico parker #she didnt clothe astrid or do her own hair #this is hate to the live action in general #even tho i am excited for it #this pmo sm #httyd #how to train your dragon #httyd live action #hiccup haddock #astrid hofferson

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howtodrawyourdragon · 2 years ago

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A Strangulator was a gigantic Monster genetically related to dragons, octopuses and snakes. It had tiny withered dragon wings and tiny crippled dragon legs that were basically useless, as it heaved its great body through underground tunnels like a serpent, leaving a trail of gooey slime.

Genetically related to dragons, octopuses and snakes? What? Is it somehow a common ancestor? The narration mentions before that Hiccup only heard about it in legends.

It had never seen daylight and was the color of nothing. Its tentacles had obviously found a way up through the upper caves of the Wild Dragon Cliffs, for it was transparent, and you could actually see the forms of unfortunate dragons it had eaten moving through its digestive system. Some, further down the Strangulator's great length, were lying quite still. Others that he had eaten more recently were jerking about, and one was trying to fly, trapped in the Monster's great throat.

Remember that thing I said about how certain things should be left up for the imagination? This is another one of those things! But then again, my brain is now also cursed with the knowledge that Seadragonus Giganticus Maximus can convince their meals that they like to be digested, so it's pretty in line with Cressida's work.

The naturalist in Hiccup automatically identified the species - Monstrous Nightmare, Deadly Nadder, Common or Garden times three - making their slow progress through the Serpent's alimentary canal.

Hiccup, I love you, but I did not need to know that and therefore, you should not have written it down.

So mall was the Creature's brain in proportion to its size that it had difficulty in keeping sensory track of all of its squirming tentacles, and they wandered about as if they had independent lives of their own. The Creature had to concentrate hard to make the tentacle that was holding Alvin move very slowly up to its head so it could have a look at him, unsure of what to make this weird new animal.

Small brain? Somehow related to three very different animals? Confused by a human? So old it's supposed to be a myth? I'm telling you, this thing is prehistoric somehow!

Unsure how Grimbeard got it there, though. Or did Grimbeard just find it, leave his treasure there, and build the door in the only way to the rest of the cavern?

#httyd books #httyd book 2 #how to be a pirate #liveblog #monstrous strangulator #dragons

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dizzybevvie · 2 years ago

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whag is YOUR FAVOURITE DRAGON from the tv shows!!!!!!!!!!

thank you so much :( /pos

Meta-wise, Ive talked before on one of my old accounts (@i-hate-spitelout-jorgenson) about how much I find Snaptrappers really really interesting. As a kid who spent most of my time watching riders/defenders of berk, and watched the 3 short films just as frequently, I was very used to seeing dragons appear on Riders Of Berk and recognising them from the Book Of Dragons short. Whispering Death, the Skrill, Changewing, Thunderdrum, scauldron, etc all appeared first in BoD and then in RoB which I LOVED. I felt so in the loop. The 2 exceptions to this are the Timberjack, which had its design recycled into the Typhoomerang and also appeared in httyd2's "Where No One Goes" scene (and potentially in The hidden world?), and the Snaptrapper, which never appeared in the film franchise again. Its in the mobile game, its in School of Dragons, its even in the comics. But never in the film franchise, which I always found really interesting.

Actual self-indulgent wise though???

Im going to disqualify the dragons that appeared in httyd1 (not including those in the Dragon Book Scene) so Night fury, Deadly Nadder, Monstrous Nightmare, Hideous Zippleback, Gronckle, red death and Terrible Terror cant compete.

I mean, for pure fear factor the first two to come to mind are the Skrill and Screaming Death.

I was TERRIFIED OF THE SKRILL. Especially because as a kid i was terrified of Dagur. Who is essential to any Skrill based plot line. But the way it was frozen in ice, the way hiccup staggered back when he realised what it was, the realisation it could still be alive, was so fucking haunting. It being able to counter most/all of toothless' attacks was so terrifying as a kid man. It being sealed back in the jce at the end of the episode felt genius to me at the time but I love that they released it in rtte. thats character development.

The screaming death's set up was also, terrifying. Its worth noting that I caught RoB/DoB mostly on reruns so I probably didnt watch it in order, but I saw each episode LOADS of times and probably pieced it together. The whole episode with the whispering death where it has a weakness to light was such good set up for the screaming death because when it didnt have the same weakness i was SHOCKED AND DUMBFOUNDED. Also the screaming death fire out the back of the head effect is awesome?? AND THE FIRST SHOT WHERE YOU JUST SEE THE TUNNEL IT CREATED... YEAH. NIGHTMARE MATERIAL FOR 5 YEAR OLD ME, 10/10 NO NOTES.

#thsnk you so much for sending me this man i needed it #i didnt mean to ramble this much but im glad i did #Im sorry this is so Rob/Dob centric thats what the main focus of my httyd interest is #I love rtte but Rob is a format i much prefer and its shorter with less throughlines #yeah i just. idk #thank you man <3 #apollo says stuff #ask #asks #httyd

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pulse-art · 4 years ago

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httyd ninjago au

im just putting ninjago characters in the movie lol. first things first,,,

Lloyd and Inkblot

lloyd takes the place of hiccup, so hes the one to take down and befriend a night fury. his uncle is the chieftain after lloyds father was taken by a dragon. its only because of him that the dragon raids ever ended, he went from orphan chiefling to dragon master! if he didnt have such a terrible case of main character syndrome then i wouldve given him a changewing.

Kai and Flare

kai has a monstrous nightmare he names flare! (i was gonna use his first dragons name but the fire dragons name is just "flame" which is stupid) kai is the one lloyd takes on that wonderful flight, and hes the first one to defend the dragons with lloyd.

Nya and Sharpshot

i was going to give kai and nya a hideous zippleback, but a monstrous nightmare and a deadly nadder just fit those two so much better dont you think? nya was top in her dragon killing class, but now that shes got one of her own shes on top of the dragon training classes.

Jay and Wisp

i knew i couldnt use all the main dragons as they wouldnt fit everyone, so i looked around and found this fun dragon, the shockjaw! its a good thing that wisp is so helpful and protective, bc poor jay has bad enough anxiety that he has to focus on something in order to actually do anything. he was raised by the tribes oddballs, but everyone can agree that the whole family has big hearts

Zane and Boreal

i found nothing more appropriate for zane then a woolly howl, with its ice blast instead of fire. people are unsure if boreal know his own name, as almost everyone uses cute snow based nicknames instead. zane was found in a raid the vikings did as a baby, and was taken in by the ships doctor, dr julien. hes always known that he was a foundling, but never really cared. the doctor and the whole tribe is his family, and now he has boreal to add to it.

Cole and Rocky

everyone makes fun of coles terrible naming ability, but no one can deny that cole and rocky are practically made for each other. while usually its kinda hard to see the relationship between dragon and human, its very clear that rocky is a wonderful big brother to cole.

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storm-flyer · 8 months ago

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Continuing my rewatch of Dragons: Riders of Berk, with episode 2, "Viking for Hire"

I don't remember anything about this one either, but I think that's gonna be a running theme. I'm also very bad with episode titles as a rule, so they're no help even if I do remember things that happen in the episode.

Anyway.

- 'Everybody needs a place to call home. Some people are born into there's. Others find theirs. And some people make a place for their own. But then the world changes around them, and the place they made is gone.' ouch

- 'Which dragon makes the best welding torch?' 'Oh, deadly nadder!' 'Its magnesium flame burns with the heat of the sun!' nerds

- 'Looks likes it's about three.' 'Told you were could count that high.' bless them

- 'Also good for getting rid of unwanted tables' oh gobber... Buddy...

- 'Its okay bertha... We'll find a place for you...' 🥺

- I actually do remember this episode now! It's a miracle

- 'There are two of you!' 'Is that another crack about my weight?' how many times has that happened??

- 'You know, that's actually not such a bad idea.' ah, chief, I fear that it actually is

- 'Remember, some of these situations are delicate. They require diplomacy.' Gobber is many things. A diplomat is not one of them

- 'I know the conventional thinking when it comes to repairing a ship is wood. But if you ask me, there's nothing like a good old slab of iron'

- 'We have to help him.' 'We don't have to do anything' Stoick, that's your best friend!

- 'Thats because you have a saddle!' 'Saddles!!'

- 'These saddles are different. They're like my children. That is, if you strapped your child to a flaming reptile and rode it.'

- 'Is that was I think-' 'Yep, flamethrower!' gobber... That's the thing they already have...

- 'Thats it, someones trading with me!' any future version of snotlout would be horrified

- 'Changes! Way ahead of you, I've so many ideas!' hiccup's resigned expression egjyenyemey

- 'Well, you know gobber. He means well, but he doesn't always do well.'

- 'Why do I have to say something to him? You didn't, you just passed him off to me!' exactly!

- '...What about him?' 'Leave him, he's going for a record' yeah that sounds like snotlout

- 'Im not sure things are working out.' 'Well, get back to me when you're sure' you did walk into that one hiccup

- 'Im really sorry gobber.' well I'm crying again

- 'I don't know what happened, I was just rubbing his head! He usually loves that! Then he just went crazy!'

- 'They do say a pet starts to take on characteristics of it's owner!' damn fishlegs, aren't there enough burns going around?

- 'You don't use that stuff to butter toast.' 'Well I mean, we would. But you guys dont' the twins are great

- 'Hes a good dragon!! 😥'

- 'We can't just get rid of him cause he's having a bad day!' you tell em hiccup

- 'Uh, I don't know where that came from!' we all know youre a big softie snotlout, give it up

- 'When the world around you changes, the good men find a way to change with it. And gobber is one of the best' 🥹

- so I guess they still don't have saddles huh

Anyway that was a really sweet episode. Onwards!

#how to train your dragon #httyd #dragons riders of berk #rewatch

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“Hm, I guess it really is a gift that you were able to do that, because you’re right, not many Vikings traveled like that unless it was for business or trading purposes, and even then, they definitely didn’t see as much as you were able to. I mean Hiccup, this map is huge! It goes outside the Archipelago for Thors sake! This is a huge accomplishment!” She looked over the map once again, taking in the sheer size of it before an idea came to mind. “But hey, I’ve always wanted to travel like this too, so maybe I’ll add onto the map one day, I mean, only if you’d be okay with that. If not, I could just make an entire new one.”

“Yeah, that makes sense,” she said, “I was just trying to give an idea.”

She looked over at him, face scrunched up in disgust. “Hiccup, it’s never happening, trust me. There will be no ‘surprising me.’” She nodded, a kind smile making its way onto her face. “Good luck. But yeah, good idea, don’t like, pressure her into saying yes, that would be a jerk move.”

Her eyes widened slightly, a little surprised at the question. “Oh- uh- probably, yeah. Maybe I’d just stay in the back, be all ominous and whatnot so people think I crashed the wedding, when actually, I was invited,” she said, a smug smirk making its way onto her face.

“Really? I do? I wasn’t aware. Usually I feel like I just start ranting random nonsense.”

“No, no, no, do not come watch the drills, for the love of Odin, don’t. I promise, it’s not that good.” She just didn’t want Hiccup to see her mess up big time, because even though she had been getting better, she still had slip ups every now and then.

She gave an exaggerated nod, humming suspiciously. “Yeah, that’s uh, not the best example, you really aren’t helping yourself all that much.”

Grateful for her words, he gave her a small smile. "Thanks, Danny, that means a lot." At her offer, he thought about it for a few moments. "You know what? Yeah, go for it. If I can't add to this map, you should. I'll make a new one," He gestured to all of the added pieces of paper. "I'm not sure if Deadly Nadder saliva is as sticky as a Night Fury's, so I'll use a larger piece of paper, give you room to add things on. You'll need extra paper, just in case, and pencils...a dagger to sharpen your pencils with...a compass.." He chuckled, pointing to where he still had all of those things in his armor as he mentioned them. "At this rate, you might have to stop me, or you'll end up with armor like mine!"

"The last thing I'd ever want to be is a jerk, especially to Astrid." He'd have to make sure he spoke with her today, to not put it off any longer.

A playful grin came across his face. "What? I thought you'd sit in the front row, right next to Fishlegs and Snotlout?" He quickly added, "I'm kidding, I'm kidding! Don't worry, I'd never do that, I know how much you hate Snotlout." Chuckling, he shook his head. "Although, I think my mom would appreciate it if you were next to her."

Laughing, he turned to her. "Random nonsense, hey? No, not random nonsense in any sense. You've helped me more than you realize."

He laughed lightly at her protests. "It doesn't matter how good they are, I can be there to support you and Astrid, can't I? After all, Astrid has told me that I should stop by sometime soon, see how the recruits are doing..."

Shrugging, all he could say was, "You know, I'd defend myself further, but I don't think it'll do any good."

#asks #tallestgrace #threads

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