#it's the most misogynistic bullshit i've ever seen

[swagging-back-to]

no one; ...

lilsimsie after slipping up and mentioning harry potter one time; ''not that i want to even mention that womans name or talk about her at all. jk rowling is such a bad person---''

[sexycornenthusiast]

back on my horror game anime girls bullshit again please bear with me.

It's really interesting to me how Yuri DDLC is one of the most consistently flanderized characters I've ever seen. She's been everything from generic pompous nerd to generic emo girlfriend to generic misogynistic trope, like she can only be a fraction of her character at any given time. She has the smallest fanbase, less than the girl who literally kills everyone (no shade to monika she's doing her best), and even then a significant part of that fanbase are fans of these flanderizations.

Honestly even as I'm sitting here writing this post, I'm not entirely sure I get her either. I'm not gonna say I'm the only one who's ever been right about Yuri, because that would be stupid, or that there isn't good characterization out there, because there is, but in my experience it's the rarest for her out of all four girls.

I cannot stress enough that I'm not even upset about this. You'd think having a favorite so often mischaracterized would start to bother me after a while, but really, it makes me like her more. The girls' dynamic with the player is an integral part of the game because the player is technically also a character, separate from MC. This makes players' real thoughts and feelings about Yuri into character interactions, in a way. All of this just introduces the idea that in universe she's a person who is often misunderstood.

She's very quiet but will talk your ear off for an hour if you bring up something she's interested in. She expresses herself in a way others in-story say they don't understand. She's weirdly pedantic for no reason. She's a terrible judge of whether or not she's doing something socially inappropriate. She has a hard time dealing with big emotions. There's just something meta and poetic about that kind of character being the one people are openly put off by, the one people don't get.

[kittydragondraws]

This Fandom is Weirdly Misogynistic and Ableist

Yeah great title there bud.

So originally this was going to be a half-baked rant about how people disrespect V, but the more I brainstormed that I came to realize. This fandom in general has a problem with misogyny and even ableism towards not just V, but Uzi as well. Heck, I would almost say Uzi moreso.

When it comes to personality butchering, I'd say V gets it worse. The number of times I've seen people make her sound like some petty, vengeful ex makes me want to rip my laptop screen off its hinges.

And most of the reason they do this, episode 4.

When Uzi and V are together in the cabin, V tells Uzi that it's better to stay distant because she'll have to kill Uzi next. Afterwards saying that N's made friends with rocks before, and that he'd move on from her death just fine.

Now, I honestly love this scene. It's a moment where Uzi and V get to be together and V gets to show her true colors without having to hide them from N. She expresses her desire to kill Uzi, because she believes it'll keep N safe, and tells her about the rock friends to make her feel like she's just some cheap novelty to N. This scene is great.

Yet apparently, some people looked at this scene and saw it as V being jealous of Uzi's relationship with N and wanting to kill her over it.

Now I just have to ask... why. This scene is so easy to understand when you just sit and think about it, so why did so many people default to it being a ship thing?

Maybe because she's just a pantless whore who exists just for people to thirst over. At least, that's what Reddit bros and Discord trolls would have you believe.

Now, I do feel it's a bit stupid to look at an unpopular female character and say "well you'd like her if they were a guy", but with V I have a feeling that's exactly the case.

V's not fan service, she's not a hoe or some crazy ex. She's just trying to keep herself from losing one of the few sane constants in her crazy, messed-up life.

But of course, she can't be an intelligent or deep character, she's just a petty woman upset at Uzi for stealing her man and who needs to put on some pants.

Now Uzi, I'd have to say her treatment is worse. Not just because it's the same sexist bullshit V has to put up with, but because she's neurodivergent.

Okay, that was a lie, she's not canonically neurodivergent. But she does have a lot of traits of a neurodivergent person. Being a social outcast, thought of as weird because of her interests and behavior.

Most people who headcanon Uzi as neurodivergent seem to agree that she could have autism, ADHD, or BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder), and I just wanna talk a bit more about her unofficial BPD diagnosis because I think that's the most fascinating out of the three.

In this image I highlighted some symptoms that feel very similar to personality traits Uzi has. Like, it's so similar it almost feels weird to say Uzi having BPD isn't canon.

Now I know what you're going to say, "But Kitty this is just people's headcanons."

And you know what? Fair honestly. But even if Uzi doesn't have autism, ADHD, or BPD, she almost definitely has some form of trauma and you'd be hard-pressed to try to argue with me she's neurotypical.

Uzi's not a pick me, she's a traumatized, possibly neurodivergent, girl trying to hold onto the first friend she's ever made.

Or hey? Maybe she should just suck it up and learn to take care of herself.

Honestly, this post is just a TLDR version of this.

[bonefall]

Feel free to ignore you've probably got a lot going on right now, but considering you know a lot about DOTC and Clear sky, I had a question...

We know that he's a terrible, misogynistic, woman beating and war mongering lunatic who was excused of all his actions because his equally misogynistic brother said " But-But he's nice! Deep down! This isn't the real him! "

But! In a world where the Hunters could write such a character, what do you think Clear Sky would look like as an actual sympathetic villain?

Idk if that makes sense, but what I've thought of doing is taking purely cannon Clear Sky and attempting to change him enough that he's still an antagonist, but not too far where only Reddit defends him.

I don't think he works as a sympathetic villain, on any level, ever. I think you're making a huge mistake to even try, and I have never seen an AU where it was done well nor am I interested in entertaining the thought.

Characters. Are. Tools. They exist to tell a story. The story that people tell me, by obsessing over some alternate universe where he was "ACTUALLY sympathetic and had a REAL redemption arc," is that they're not fucking interested in his dozens of victims. Nor do they actually care about the abusive impact he had on the minds and feelings of his family. They're JUST interested in Clear Sky himself.

Just like the Erins. Everything that happens in DOTC revolves around him. Everything. All his wives die so he can be sad about it. His brother defends all of his actions and BEGS you to sympathize with his pain so he can be 'redeemable.' One Eye comes out of nowhere so that there can be an example of "real" evil to contrast Clear Sky so he's less bad in hindsight.

The first three books of DOTC are bad, but the last three are fucking insufferable because SUDDENLY all that Gray Wing apologia pays off, and they take their main villain and throw him out a window. You CAN'T have "redeemable" Clear Sky and the plot of DOTC without dragging in someone else to drive the conflict, to BE the bigger threat to "unite" against. Slash and One Eye have to be conjured up out of thin air so Clear Sky can WHINE about how people only suck his toes instead of deepthroat them after he killed all their friends.

And yet, in spite of this absolute failure of an attempt, we continue to see this bullshit "redemption" be a mistake because Clear Sky is a fantastic villain, with major antagonist roles in nearly EVERY bit of follow-up material for DOTC that came after.

He's the most consistent monster in all of Warriors.

He's a fragile, egotistical, self-absorbed megalomaniac who ALWAYS sees himself as the victim, REFUSING to self-reflect and blaming everything else for all of his terrible choices. He will USE your love of him against you like it's a chain through your nose, step out of line and he will yank you into place with guilt trips, manipulation, public shaming, and violence.

He's a child abuser. He's a tyrant. He abandons the sick and disabled as soon as they're of no use to him, with grand speeches about "illness" and "weakness." He's a murderer who stands above the shredded corpse of his victim and bellows, "I'M NOT GREEDY! I'M JUST STRONG!"

And you'd write a "good" redemption arc for this, why?

Why are people so chronically unable to accept that there are LOTS of people like him, and you can't save your abuser? Why don't you ask yourselves why you're not interested in exploring Thunder, or Petal, or Gray Wing, and how his toxic influence impacts them? Why does the sympathy fall on Clear Sky? What about the DOZENS of victims who are dead by Book 3, and how THEY could have been saved?

Why ruin a perfectly good villain?

What's behind this trend where a billion people say to me, "Yes Clear Sky is a walking cavalcade of fucked up abuse apologia, and an incredibly realistic depiction of an abuser, but how would you change this while keeping it all the same?"

I wouldn't. You can't. It wouldn't be the same story, or it wouldn't be the same character. Never seen it done well, and I have seen it a lot. So I don't entertain this deeply frustrating "Well What If Clear Sky But Nice" impulse.

[trannyradfem]

If you think the only criticism towards radical feminism that exists is regurgitated drivel from TikTok, you desperately need to go touch grass and stop arguing against strawmen that don't exist. And stop going on TikTok, maybe?

Like, have you ever considered that other women are capable of creating their own thoughts and criticisms, even though they differ from yours? Why is it always ok to treat us like we're brainless drones the second we're sympathetic to sex dysphoria? Why is it ok to act like we're prioritizing males when we want a genuinely neglected medical condition that disproportionately affects us negatively to be taken more seriously and understood-- not from the mainstream male dominated perspective, but ours? And why is it ok to delude yourself into thinking it's misogynistic to have compassion for the women that radical feminism typically shits on and leaves behind over a stupid binary turf war (trans vs radfem) that should've ended 10 years ago?

Wake the fuck up, this is a medical condition and we deserve better than "just go get therapy (that doesn't even exist AND also work) or else you're a traitor hurr durr". Is medical misinformation cool only when radfems do it, now? I'm tired of your aclinical defenses when most of you arguing this hard aren't even fucking licensed professionals. But guess what? I am, and I've seen more than enough medically inaccurate bullshit coming from radfems to ever even need to have any exposure to TikTok to speak out about it.

That kind of bullshit^^^ isn't remotely radical, so no shit we're going to criticize it. We are the women left behind. Hatred towards us for that reason is just bathing in the privelege of not having this hellish condition. The fact that some of you cant even have a single conversation with us without becoming ridiculously condescending and demeaning speaks volumes, and shows us what you really think of us. You say we're condescending for wanting to establish a branch of radical feminism that doesn't leave any woman behind-- dysphoric or not-- and then condescend to us as if that's actually doing anything meaningful beyond reaffirming your own beliefs so you don't have to consider the alternatives.

Like the girl who called my detrans female friend a TIM and equated me to straight women wanting to include their male partners in feminism, all for the sin of saying..... "homophobia against males isn't ok, either". Ooh, the horror. I'm really watering down the radical feminism movement with that one. Nevermind a supposed radfem equating a lesbian to straight women, that's not important because we need to fight the disgusting troons!!!!

That shit was so fucking homophobic and dehumanizing, but who cares when you aim that behavior at a troon? Except one of us literally isn't even trans at all, so... wtf? Is this some new radical behavior, accusing women of secretly being males to discredit them? This witch hunting bullshit is ok now?

Stop acting like you give a shit about all women when you really don't. And stop giving the "well I'm sorry other RFs did that to you but that wasn't really radical feminism" line as if TRAs don't do that same exact shit! You only care about women that fit your image, all else are apparently acceptable targets. That's the same exact shit TRAs do.

If you want to see us be condescending so badly, then fine-- stop being so disgustingly misogynistic and homophobic under the guise of radical feminism, and then we can talk. Stop giving us reasons to criticize and maybe we won't want to separate ourselves from the movement at large.

[i-am-the-oyster]

I can’t remember where I heard it and it’s driving me a bit insane and was wandering if you knew since your like a Beatle encyclopedia. Have you heard or know of a quote that said Paul had Linda on a “tight leash” and that she felt unhappy but stayed for the kids ? And something along the lines of Linda not having money of her own cause paul was in charge of all of it ?

Hello nonny! Thank you for the lovely compliment. Unless you meant to say that, like any Beatles encyclopedia, I am full of inaccuracies and unjustified opinions. :)

I must admit I am very skeptical of a lot of the negative takes on Paul and Linda's marriage. They get accused of claiming it was idyllic, but the only times I've seen either of them speak about their relationship it was always in very realistic terms like: "we're not perfect", "we argue", "we have to work at our relationship".

I have heard references to Paul being controlling and tight with money, but not from any sources I considered particularly reliable.

It is my firm belief that despite their unique circumstances, they had a reasonably normal relationship that they worked hard on. Did they sometimes upset and disappoint one another? Of course. Did they go through phases where one or other thought they might leave? Most likely (show me any 3 decade marriage where no-one ever considered leaving). Is Paul a bit of a misogynist? Yes, but within normal parameters for the time he grew up, and with some really remarkable streaks of empathy.

Was Paul monstrous towards Linda? I just don't believe it. Linda doesn't act like someone on a tight leash, in my opinion. She shows confident resistance to Paul's bullshit in plenty of Wings interviews, and his response is not (as far as I can tell) that of an abuser who will get her back for it later.

As someone who has also chosen to prioritise caring for my kids over my own career goals, Linda is a bit of a hero of mine. I object to the way her choices are treated (in some corners of the fandom) as something imposed on her.

[letsgetrowdy43]

Timeline—

Au Masterlist!!

Evangeline "Angie" Chandler is from Dallas, Texas. She was raised there by her mother and father, alongside her older and younger sister.

Her mother played hockey alongside Ellen when they were little and remained one of her closest friends up until graduating from college, the two of them lost contact as their lives got busy and they both gained a career and families.

But they got close again when a scout reached out to the Chandler family and offered Angie a position on the USNTDP team, while they were searching for a suitable Billet family they saw Ellen and Jim's names on the list of available rooms and knew that Angie would be in good hands.

Ellen had quite the house full, Quinn was at Umich, Luke and Jack were still at home, and Angie and Alex Turcotte moved into the remaining spare bedrooms as Billet kids. It was hectic, but was so much fun.

Angie loved living with the Hughes, and Ellen quickly became her idol as the mother helped her through the acclimation to playing on an all-boys team, she helped with the tears and the breakdowns, talking her out of quitting her sport when her actual mother couldn't be there to help her through it all.

Angie finishes out her two years with the program, makes an insane name for herself, and suddenly she gets a call from the NHL inviting her out to the combine

The Combine goes well, she is obviously athletically gifted so she does all of the testing just fine, her interviews with teams were a little disheartening, but her ones with the Devils and the Sabres both felt really promising.

Now that it's known throughout the league that a girl was invited out to participate amongst the boys she's getting a little anxious about how real this all is

People either hate her or love her, her stats were impeccable so many hockey lovers are really rooting for her, whereas some people just absolutely hate her

So it becomes a lot, ESPN does a little documentary on her life and achievements, NHL does one on her impact within the program, its a lot of positive media where she's sharing her struggle to be seen as an equal.

She sat through many sexist interviews and read many disgusting tabloids about her that all lacked the conversation of hockey and focused more on literally anything else

But people still really hate her, her 'softness' is not the type of thing the league is built for blah blah blah, misogynistic bullshit.

Anyways, the draft comes around and she is a part of the League "Welcome to the NHL" video along with Cole, Jack, and a few other draftees.

She wore a lavender suit with a list of Women who pushed and fought to get her where she is in life on the inside of her jacket along with a tiny Ellen Hughes quote that said "Give 'em hell," an homage to the woman who pushed her the most.

She was trending on Twitter the second she stepped on that carpet, she was so obsessed with reading how much people hated her as she sat in the stands, that her dad had to take her phone to calm her nerves.

Jack went first like she knew he would, and she was the first person he went to hug after he went through his whole family, whispering a short "I owe this all to you," as she shook her head and hugged him tightly.

She wasn't drafted in the end, and she was so upset, but she was more upset with herself for even thinking that being in the NHL was a possibility.

She ends up crying in Ellen's arms outside of the arena, realizing that nothing she could do would ever be good enough.

She almost quits hockey that summer, but Quinn calls her outraged when she doesn't show up for the first summer training session.

"So that's it?" he asks over the phone. "I don't know what else I can do Q, I've done everything I can at this point, it's not worth the fight anymore" He let out a bitter laugh, "So you just let them win?" she sat for a second in silence before he spoke up again, "I'm not allowing that Chandler, I better see you tomorrow or I will show up to your house and drag you here myself." It was safe to say that she went the next day, but the real emotional moment was when Jim texted her telling her that he missed her at practice to tell her he was proud of her for pushing past it all

Then she was off to university, much like most of the USNTDP boys, Jack and Quinn are both now in the League playing their rookie years

Her collegiate rookie year was the same year as covid so it's pretty bland, her team and roommate are the only people she gets to be around so she felt very isolated by the end of the year

Before the entire world shut down though she got a chance to visit Jack during her reading week, and this is where she meets Nico for the first time

It was literally just a week of him and her giving each other heart eyes, Jack was over it the second it started, he wanted time with his Angie and Nico was ruining it.

By the end of her trip, Jack had practically locked her in his room and said that she couldn’t leave until it was time to go home cause he wanted to hang out with just her for a few days, with no Nico, and no distractions.

Luke got drafted in 2021, and she was asked to join Quinn and Jack in a video tribute for him and the Hughes for ESPN, she gladly reached out and accepted the interview.

It was at that time that a producer told her that if she ever wanted to give up her pipe dream, she could always have the backup of reporting or journalism. She was not a fan of that comment.

She was also there to witness Jack’s over-the-top reaction, which she still relentlessly bullies him for.

She spoke a little to Pat Brisson that night, and he hinted that shortly, the league is gonna do some growing and he wants to be the one to represent her if there ever comes a time that she needs it. She tells him that she’ll reach out if she ever needs to.

She became an Assistant/Alternate captain in her second year (2021-2022) and she loved it, she really grew into her role as a leader and her team was amazing.

Nothing happened over the summer of ‘22 other than training, and a summer fling that she meets at a bar in Michigan.

Fall semester 2022 starts and she’s back in Minnesota, but around a month in she gets a call from the devs asking to meet with her.

Nico, Lindy, Tom Fitzgerald, and a few other legal and coaching staff representatives are the few people in the room as they go over the terms and conditions of her joining the team.

It was summed up to her that she was being brought in as that “glue” character in their locker room, that she was to bring that close-knit family structure that they were missing. The staff had heard from many sources that she was the girl they were gonna want to bring this feeling to, so the devs were the first to take a chance on her.

Nico asked her out a few weeks later and it was a hard no, she was almost a little offended that he even attempted.

So there starts the heat of awkward tension between them, they have amazing chemistry, they play the same line, and they spend nearly every waking second in each other's presence, but there is still some tension between the two of them that seems a little less than friendly and slightly flirty.

Angie is not looking for romance whatsoever, she has a shot at a career, and to her, it seems like Nico is trying to jeopardize her place on the team, or that he doesn't see her as a teammate so she is not only mad but also really hurt that he would act like he wants her there but also through his actions shows that he doesn't.

He doesn't get that, he's a man, and he worked hard to get where he is but he's never faced the same challenges as her so he doesn't see how the weight of his actions could affect her shot at a professional career.

She attended the 2023 all-star weekend in Florida with Jack, and they had a blast, she's the one who sunk Sidney in the dunk tank which was a “mega slay” as she explained it to the reporter on sight (her media training went right out the window the second she saw Crosby)

Her being a locker room staple on the team obviously worked cause they make playoffs!!

She plays a really good run too, with 12 points in her 10 games, but she gets injured in game 4 against the Canes and she didn't play game 5

She sprained her knee and broke her wrist from a hit to the boards and was actually distraught when she was told she couldn't play for the rest of the run. She thought the boys would back her up, and she wanted to prove that she wasn't soft and could continue, but Nico put his foot down and told them that they had to think about her health first and not the possibility of a win.

She somehow found herself at the Stanley Cup finals a few weeks later, helping with commentary for ESPN, she was on a panel with Biz and Gretzky which was both equally terrifying and hilarious.

Angie also attended her first-ever NHL awards ceremony, she was a finalist for ‘Rookie of the Year’ and she won!!!

Nico saw her in her gown and was literally like 😻😻😻 the entire night, Lindy would not let him live it down either, he was relentlessly bullying the Captain every time he even glanced at the girl who was basically the fan favourite on the carpet.

Her summer is spent with a strict physical therapy regimen, but she still has a lot of fun, even attended the Tkachuck wedding with the Hughes’

She spends a week in Sweden with Jesper cause his mother really wants to meet this girl whom both Nicole and Jesper raved about during the season.

Going into her sophomore year she was so scared of ending up in a slump, and she did absolutely that from stressing about it so much.

Her sophomore year is also the year she realizes just how loved she is by the team, because of this slump all of the boys are doing everything in their power to get her through it.

It's also the year she realizes that she might be in love with her captain, but she definitely pushes that thought far to the back of her mind, not willing to think or reflect on it cause she needs to focus on herself and her career.

At this point, Nico has accepted that she views him as a teammate and nothing more so he is just focused on the betterment of the team, but deep down he knows that he will never meet someone more perfect for him than her.

Luke puts him into perspective during training camp while he's bitching about how he doesn't understand why she just won't let him be happy. And Luke being the basically little brother he is just sits up and rips into Nico for being so blind.

"It's like no one in this locker room realizes how much harder she worked for this than we all did?" he looked at the captain as everyone quieted, "she has a point to prove, you just have to play hockey, she has to show that she is worthy to even ben considered equal" and with that, he headed out to the ice, stunning Nico, his brother, and literally everyone in the room.

So that's why he has dropped any type of advances for her that he was trying to pursue, realizing that he was only harming her by trying to chase whatever feelings he had.

Angie on the other end is dealing with a mental battle, cause she never wants to be known as that girl who gets on this team and starts sleeping with her captain, having a reputation followed by a negative connotation is the last thing she wants.

But it's the holidays, they are in Ohio and are celebrating a win against the Blue Jackets in one of the hotel conference rooms, and Nico and her have not left each other's sides all night. The two of them decide to step out for a second of air, cold air filling their lungs as they just quietly stare at each other. The night had been filled with fleeting glances and quick moments of physical touch as they sat next to each other, thighs brushing against each other and hands momentarily touching. So now they are standing outside with this thick tension between them, and she just kisses him.

It's safe to say that she runs straight to her hotel after profusely apologizing to him, his eyes wide as she steps away from him with shaky hands and then just leaves him in shock.

She calls Quinn immediately, she doesn't know why, but she needs to tell someone, and she can't tell Jack, she sure as shit can't tell Trevor or any of the other USNTDP boys, so she calls her basically older brother.

Quinn assures her that she isn't going to get kicked off the team for a simple kiss, and Nico will surely be fine in the morning

Nico is just absolutely gagged, so he's fine, just shocked.

She literally can't look at him for weeks, and he's going insane from her ignoring him, so he pulls her aside and is like 'This needs to stop'

Nico stops her on her way out of Lindy's office and says he needs to talk, she is literally frozen in fear as they walk to an empty room. "Are we okay?" "I am so sorry," they say at the same time as they just stare at each other. "Why are you sorry?" "I kissed you? and it was weird and unprofessional?" "It's fine, just stop being weird about it, it happened, we move past it," he said, trying not to smother her with the feelings that he's still trying to keep it at bay, "do you regret it?" "Yes," is all she says before sighing and watching him nod and leave the room.

They both know she doesn't actually regret it, she is just doing what is best for her and for her name.

I have no idea how they get together just yet, so if you guys have any ideas lmk!!!

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[rose-morose]

I finished Harley Quinn, and I've got to rant about Kite Man for a second

(Harley Quinn spoilers and very very long and bitter hatred under the cut)

it fucking boggles my mind that Poison Ivy would go out with this rich, incompetent, ignorant, heteronormative, entitled, arrogant, borderline, if not outright, misogynistic trust fund child who is a massive cunt, and seemingly the antithesis of everything that she stands for

most of the time she seems to find his clumsy and ignorant conduct to be endearing, which is actually understandable, but beyond that and a positive review of the sex (I think I can't remember) it kind of seemed like she wasn't fully invested in their relationship

this isn't even a "she's out of his league" thing either, he is just genuinely a terrible terrible person, and I think many people give him far more credit than he deserves

putting aside his goofy kite motif, his naive demeanour, and his clumsy antics he just has a dull shitty personality

when they first met, Kite Man spent an entire evening making unwelcome advances on Ivy despite her clear and succinct rejections of every effort he made, stole from her, and then he took Ivy asking him for an emergency ride back to her apartment to literally save the lives of children that HE poisoned for no reason as not only validation of his relentless advances, but the beginning of what he believed to be a "date" in his deluded rotting brain

upon arriving at her apartment, unprompted, he disrobed and waited for her in her bedroom to have sex, and when Ivy asked him why, his response was along the lines of 'that's usually what happens after a great date when you go back to the girl's place'

Ivy was understandably upset by this, so what happened? what changed? in what mad world is this given any amount of consideration to even be tolerable, let alone acceptable behaviour?

"I'll do all the heavy lifting so you don't have to break a nail." fuck this twat he sucks, and this is only episode 2, the first fucking episode that he is in

"I'll protect us babe!" dude fuck right off she is literally the most powerful person in the room

"If my girlfriend sees me hanging out with you hot young coeds she is going to be green with envy." people still call women attending uni "coeds" that's fucking insane, someone just put me out of my fucking misery

HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HER FUCKING NAME! "Poison Gertrude Ivy" 0/3 fucker not even remotely close, and he doesn't learn her name until after the third fucking time he asks her to marry him

so what if it's played as a joke, it's still true

what am I missing here? why is this guy getting a pass, not just from Ivy, but from the fandom at large? why is there such widespread admiration of this asshole?

I tried watching the Kite Man spinoff show to figure out what people see in him, but it honestly just made him look even worse if that's possible, and while the entire show has not yet been released, it is set after the conclusion of Kite Man and Ivy's relationship so it's not even that relevant

if anyone from the Harley Quinn show deserves a spinoff it isn't this cunt

this shitty excuse of a human being maps out their entire future without consulting Ivy, self admittedly stalked her, constantly does things that she explicitly asks him not to do (admittedly Harley is also guilty of this), mansplains simple bullshit to her constantly, and takes not even the slightest bit of interest in anything remotely associated with Poison Ivy, he doesn't even really seem to know that much about her

on paper I can't see why the hell she even seems to like him at all seeing as she repeatedly rebuffed his initial unwelcome attempts to hit on her, was embarrassed to be seen in public with him, did not tell anybody she was dating him, constantly comments on how fucking stupid he is, rejected him every time he tried to take the next step in their relationship, and before they got together the nicest thing she had ever said to him was along the lines of, 'you're almost tolerable when you are completely silent' and yet in practice Ivy seems to be very loving and affectionate towards him, she even attributes her recent bout of happiness to him

yet Kite Man himself admits that he had to repeat every step of their relationship over and over and over again because she constantly rejected him at every turn

and she was the only one putting any effort into their relationship, always doing things to make him more comfortable or happy and in return occasionally getting a ride and that's it, he just breaks down and starts crying when anything doesn't go his way

Poison Ivy deserves so much better than this cunt who weaselled his way into her life, not the other way around

I saw something from a showrunner about how this iteration of Poison Ivy has self esteem issues that may have lead her to date someone who isn't worthy of her just because he was nice to her, but I don't see how he was nice to her

he's usually polite, sure, but he is super misogynistic, he asks her to drop her name to get things that he wants, he is super arrogant and full of himself, and he seems to objectify her every time he tries to give her a compliment

and that hardly explains why so many fans are all for this terrible relationship, normally supporting unhealthy relationships in media because you want to see them improve and evolve is fun, but this guy does not change, he doesn't even think that he needs to change

and I think most of the show's fans are for Harlivy, which is a relationship that isn't super healthy but is compelling and improving and is fun to root for, but why do I see so many people saying that the writers should have kept going with Kite Man and Ivy?

I don't think it's outright homophobia, or at least the majority isn't homophobia, but I just don't get it

now did Kite Man deserve to be cheated on? I don't think so, that's just a pretty shitty thing to do to someone, but why the fuck was he even here in the first place?

I guess the heart wants what the heart wants or she didn't think she deserved better or whatever, but fuck why does anyone tolerate this asshole? is incompetence really that charming?

maybe I just don't get it because I'm aroace, but regardless of what you think of the relationship or the character, Kite Man is undoubtably a shit person and a complete asshole, that doesn't make him a bad character, just a bad person, and I wish more people that liked him as a character would recognise that, it's fine to like characters that are bad people, but don't outright deny it

just my final thoughts, I would love to take this opportunity to assure all 0 readers that have made it this far that I am not genuinely upset and do not take issue with people that like a fictional character that I don't like ok thanks bye

rant over

[fightingalgth8rs]

Love how each of the weirdos on @dtmsrpfcringe 's master list have their own signature style.

Nightgoodomen's and Letscoffeebreak's sole purpose in life is to be a dick to Georgia. Like spitting out misogynistic, ableist, bullshit.

Ingrav has a weird pervy obsession with the idea of a polycule or a throuple or sth (ew!). However, she just can't stand Anna. Anna is the villain of the story who's ruing it for everyone apparently.

Others like Hurtslikeourmotuh just parrot whatever Ingrav says.

climb-dtennant-like-a-tree is actually supporting the dckheads on twitter who bullied G and called her a zionist for no fckn reason. Also makes assumptions about D&G's relationship timeline that are sincerely so fcked up and make no sense. I'm 100% sure that the anon sending me those blind items shit trying to 'convince' and 'convert' me by showing me the 'truth' was them. Well thanks a lot it made me sick that's all it did. Like really sick. I ended up in the hospital lol!

thetardisisbluandroseistoo has a life mission is to spew absolute disgusting shit not just about GT but also about her parents (good god!) and her children (CHILDREN! FFS) [see also climb-dtennant-like-a-tree for more bullshit about some innocent woman's parents and children]

That's just some patterns I noticed. But there's this one thing which they ALL have in common: the belief that DT is a slut and GT tries sooooo hard to present him as some blushing virgin with the mental age of a five-year-old child. Word of advice my peeps: stop projecting your fcked up disgusting personality on other people. Like he'd literally be the most decent person I've ever seen and they'd be out their trying to present his personality as revolting as one cannot even imagine. Idk they think it's hot. It's not. And then they claim they're fans of this person. Barf!

Sorry for the very long rant.

🌞Meena x

[sharklovingaquarist]

Lets talk about the "birth rate crisis" (another long one 😝)

Well, I mean, I really don't know how to word it any other way... It's bullshit. It's a poorly thought-out, POORLY HIDDEN male breeding fetish shoved into the facade of "science" (as are most things). It has never been about babies. I took environmental science (to preface I had a republican teacher so I'm not great at it, yay Florida education) and the birth rate being the focus of concern with the label "wellbeing of our country and population" slapped on it is so funny. The actual population is determined with birth rates as a singular component... it also includes DEATH RATE. This idea that population equals birth rate (or like that's the component that's lacking) when the medical system all over the world neglects female health is the most brainwashed shit I've ever heard in my life. In Florida, the 4th ammendment on the ballot talked about late term abortion decreasing population as if thats not a case where the woman is dying. Its like if I was really concerned over the rate of conception, it doesnt equal population. If it was REALLY ABOUT the population, it would consider the rates at which females die in childbirth, infant mortality, and many more factors in wellbeing... especially male caused factors.... even in environmental science, we were taught that "fertility rates" were how many children FEMALES were producing. It makes no sense, human reproductive strategy calls for a male and a female to raise their child together. It calls for monogamy. So why aren't we including men? "Well, not all mothers have the father involved." I'm glad you mentioned that. So along with all this about women producing children, how come you never hear about men? At what rate do men cause mortality within reproduction (because as far as I know, the people who swear it's about human wellbeing never wanna look into male health. Why is female health only important when a man could cause death to another human who isnt himself)? Paternal/spousal abuse? Male fertility? Male involvement? They think human reproduction is the same as domestic cats! Males wander the street, mating with any female they find... so obviously, it's a female issue! Have you ever noticed how it's only MEN throwing a tantrum over birth rates?! BECAUSE IT IS A POORLY DISGUISED HATRED AND FETISH WITH THE WORD SCIENCE WRITTEN ON IT. Males in nature are the ones seen as production, the tools females use. The human males of our species decided to completely flip that. Sure, females may carry out the aftermath of the situation, but who caused it to happen in the first place? Both parents!!! If our culture was a matriarchy where men were treated like shit and controlled for their reproductive value, you'd see a decrease in male production. If we controlled ever little bit about males including drinking, eating, exercise, because we only saw them as sperm donors and made this huge fuss about a decrease in male quality, you'd see a decrease too. When you have a monogamous animal, the male and female rules don't differ. Both processes are meaningless alone for population, they only contribute. One sex makes up for another.

But nah, liberal men and conservative men alike will chalk up the decline to "uhhhh expense of living uhhhhhh." Because trust me every time a liberal misogynistic male brings it up and I come with the "actually it's an issue of misogyny, " he'll try to discredit me with some dumbass shit. "Actually no my wife doesn't wanna be my broodmare bc uh economy :(" It really shows how men are men are men, none of them are good. But liberal man may treat you like a glorified AKC poodle not a factory farm sow! WOW! Not to mention if this was really about population than we'd care more about homeless kids, immigrant children, foster care kids, much more. It's never been about kids it's always been about controlling women and a male obsession with turning his previous higher-up into his stock. Period. An idea that he caused indirect pain to a woman with "his" child rather than his wife provided her strength. Our perception is the biggest culprit of this situation, a perception made by years of lazy male manipulation that I'm surprised even worked

Even mortality and economy considered, where we are most deficient in acknowledgment is culture. How are females treated with reproductive status? How does their life change? How does their mental health change? How do men fail women? That statement covers it all. Because as someone who has animal experience, animals that are supposed to raise young with the other parent will abandon or kill the young when the other parent isn't sufficient. Nature will always prioritize an adult life over an infant. Kindly, men did this to themselves. You force women into a corner, and once they are in that corner, you beat down on us with all your might, blaming us for being there. None of it is innate. All of it is made up. And that is why men always bring up female education within population. Because once women start to see through this breeder shit they'll treat themselves right, they'll realize how much of a shit show it is, how much men use the word science against them.

Sorry if this was at all redundant and nonsensical. Hopefully, this can inspire more to think. And thank you very much if you read this far. My warning to younger feminists would be to brace yourself for the incoming dehumanization adulthood has in store. Growing into an adult woman is just being turned into a factory for a mans baby collection, a factory he gets the credit with operating.

[shamebats]

I was reading the investigation you were doing on male loneliness, alongside doing a little of my own, and I just gotta say, the implications I see of what these dudes are saying...wow this whole thing is the BIGGEST and most densely packed can of worms I've seen in a LONG time.

Because what it looks like these guys are looking for is...EVERYTHING that MULTIPLE relationships have to offer - shared interests, interest in their lives, physical intimacy (sexual and otherwise), emotional release and exchange, FRIENDSHIP - and yet they're just...assuming that they can fulfill all those desires with sex.

We're all lonely, we're all having trouble building and maintaining community, and I really do feel it'd be disingenuous at best to say that the ways people experience the fallout of that aren't gendered - but they're not gendered in the way these guys think they are, either.

As a queer guy, one of the most alienating things for me is the way that theres a double-bind in play - where mainstream society treats reaching out for emotional connection as "unmanly"...but a lot of queer feminist spaces are currently so overrun with gender essentialist radfem bullshit, they often just REINFORCE that idea with different justification; just replace "unmanly" with "making it all about you". And, ironically, these dudes are only making the former worse by leaning on the assumption that they can solve all their problems with sex - because MEN don't NEED to process our emotions any other way, right? (They heavily imply with their proposed solutions, while everything they express about what they're feeling SCREAMS otherwise...)

And the fact that they've so thoroughly convinced themselves of this - and put out such a large volume of talk and writing about it - ironically makes it so much harder to talk about the ways widespread social alienation DOES interact with gender.

Absolutely bonkers tbh. I'm not sure how to even begin to contain all these worms.

Indeed, it's got so many aspects to it and the thing is, you won't be able to resolve it without involving (cis straight) men in the conversation especially those who have experienced first-hand how harmful patriarchy and gender essentialism can be and were able to learn from it. This is not something anyone can resolve by making up theories about why those men are the way they are. You can't theorize about a group, not involve them in the conversation and expect things to change.

It will require a lot of education, and since who they'll have to reach will be misogynistic boys and young men who have been brainwashed by masculinity grifters online and taught all the wrong things by the toxic men in their lives irl, to counter that the lessons will have to come from other cis straight men, they won't listen to anyone else, which means that we will need ally men on our side more than ever.

[royalskarsgard]

i think (and this is just personal opinion) a lot of the times wags are hated just because of who they're dating. most of the fans don't care about their problematic behaviour. they just use it to further their agenda. these fans are the same ones who make excuses for their favs (re: Lando fans defending his comments about Trump or max fans when it's brought up that max willingly supported Nelson Piquet and called lance stroll (or esteban) a mongol as an insult). but when it comes to these two driver's partners people will bend over backwards to drag them at any given point but don't reserve the same energy for the drivers (I'm not saying that the wags should not be criticised but a lot times the criticism is rooted in misogyny (like calling Kelly, "an old hag" or saying she looks ugly) there's so much they could've chosen from, but most of the time (from what I've seen; totally not saying that there is not valid criticism present about them not being a good person, supporting questionable leaders etc.)

also, this idolation of the exes. like that relationship is over, why are you still hung up on it? 😭 both the parties have moved on to different relationships, it's been a fucking year, give it up guys. especially with charles and charlotte and carlos and isa. the carlos fans (and a lot of gossip pages, other fans) call rebecca a prostitute or an escort and say how much better isa was to rebecca and how rebecca is not good for carlos yadda yadda as if sainz is not a 29 year old grown up who knows what's best for him. they behave as if rebecca has physically restrained him and is preventing him from doing whatever he wants. same with lando, as if he's not an adult who probably knows about his partner's actions and chooses to stay with them.

and don't get me started on the performative activism of F1. every breath that these people take is hypocritical. when will stans understand that they don't care about you or anyone other than themselves. most of them grew up rich and privileged, in a protected bubble. i don't expect them to have a good take on the world issues.

I'm sorry for this rant but I've been following this sport since last year and i have lurked on gossip pages because I just enjoy low stakes funny gossip or driver transfer gossip (which i do have thoughts about if you're interested in listening to them) but what I was bombarded with was a very misogynistic discourse and micro analysing of every move in a wife or girlfriend's life. like goddamnit just enjoy the damn sport and the silly little memes 😭 😭. i just want to be able to enjoy a healthy discourse on wags fashion, leo the cutie and drivers and low stakes, funny haha bullshit

I feel like a lot of the crazy stans use the wags as an outlet to take out the criticisms of the driver. Cuz if their fave does something fucking stupid they can’t look dumb by supporting it so they take it out on the girl. This is wrong!

And it’s all patterns with the guys, but they don’t admit that and will just use the girl as the excuse. Lando choosing magui depending on how you view her own choices, can be a pattern. But they’re never gonna admit he may be the actual problem they’re just gonna hate her. People have flaws but nobody in the spotlight can make a mistake and if they do, they can never change for the better they will always be defines by that one mistake!!

But yes you’re right like none of these people have ever had to worry what goes on outside their own bubbles why would they start now.

This driver drama is giving me anxiety I’ve always hated musical chairs and now add millions of dollars??? Pass the tums. Estie Bestie being out was on my bingo card but it still hurts???

[zvtara-was-never-canon]

Why do you think there is more hatred for Aang than hatred for Mai, like... I've seen a few zk who liked Mai or didn't talk nonsense about her... But I didn't see any zk who really liked Aang.

Oh, I'd say Mai has just as many haters as Aang, if not more - for equaly bullshit reasons. Very few times have I see a zutara fan that was genuinely fair to her character, regardless of them personally liking her or not.

At best, they go for mischaracterizing her, and praising said mischaracterization, to them go "And this is why I think her ever being into Zuko makes no sense - she'd totally leave him and then he'd be with Katara." Sometimes they'll take the cowardly approach of "Oh, I like her, just not how she was written."

Most of the time though? The stans of the so-called "feminist" ship that Zutara will be SO openly misogynistic towards her for "stealing Katara's man" that, much like they do with Aang, they don't even bother with a coherent narrative.

One second she's a cold-hearted monster that clearly hates the poor, innocent little Zuzu that is just trying so hard to be a good boyfriend and is getting his heart broken, the next she's a needy, delusional, master manipulator that is constantly coercing him into a relationship and that "lives for a man".

One second she is shallow and doesn't actually feel strongly about literally anything at all, the next it's just so clear she could never be Zuko's Fire Lady because OBVIOUSLY she'd be a die-hard supporter of the old, imperialistic days of their country.

One second she's a frigid bitch that should be shamed for not wanting/enjoying sex and, more importantly, not satisfying her man, the next she's a slut that only sees Zuko as a sex object and is totally fucking other guys on the side - and don't forget, Zuko being all moody during Nightmares And Daydreams is not about his father seemingly shutting him out again, oh no, it's a subtle hint that Mai sexually abused him.

So yeah, much like Aang, Mai is labelled as anything and everything negative under the sun for the crime of "getting in the way" of a ship only people that were deep in denial could ever think had any chance of ever being endgame, or even just canon for a little while.

[idontreallyknow26]

I'm gonna get hate for this, but when do I not yk

I forgot to add this is mostly towards show stans lol so this may not make sense if you haven't seen some of their arguments

You cannot say that Rhaenys was the rightful heir to the throne while also believing Rhaenyra was the rightful heir to the throne.

In both situations, Kings chose successors in the way they wanted. Viserys chose Rhaenyra as his heir, and Jaehaerys left it up to the lords. They made their choices.

I also see the argument a lot on TikTok that the king's word is the last word- then why do you not apply it? Jaehaerys allowed the lords to decide, and they decided against Rhaenys. That was his word.

So, which do you believe? Was Rhaenys the heir or Rhaenyra?

And just to be clear, Rhaenyra wasn't the rightful heir for a number of reasons.

1- Viserys' stupidity. In Westeros, according to Andal law of succession, the Eldest son inherits, and then down to the youngest. Then, Eldest daughter to the youngest. So, because Aemma died, having only one child (Rhaenyra) THAT made Rhaenyra the rightful heir. Daemon was only considered if Rhaenyra had been too young, or dead. Viserys simply took the extra step of confirming this. But Viserys CHOOSING (A king cannot be bullied into remarrying- he's a fucking king.) To remarry to Alicent overruled that. When he remarried the sole point of it (Not really, his only point was to fuck a 14-year-old while he could still fuck) was to produce more heirs, which they did. Putting Aegon ii above Rhaenyra in the order of succession, as well as Aemond and Daeron. But Viserys never formally acknowledged this, he was very white democrat about it and just ignored it best he could. He only ever truly made a comment about it in the safety of his castle.

2- Rhaenyra committed high treason multiple times. She had three bastards, as well as tried to put them on not only the Driftwood throne but the iron throne. She lied to the king and queen countless times about it and allowed her bastard to permanently mutilate and disable the son of the king with no consequences- she even asked that the son of the king be tortured further. (The bastards were never legitimized; to legitimize a bastard you must first admit they are one, which never happened. And even if they had been they would not be legitimized as Velaryons, but Strongs. Meaning their only true claim was to harrenhal.) She and her husband also accused the queen and hand of sedating the king with drugs to rule in his place.

So no. Neither of them was the rightful heir and it most definitely wasn't their birthright. I don't like any of the Valyrians, they're all white nazi trash and deserved to have their dragons killed. So don't go telling me I like a rapist. That argument is stupid and ignorant anyway, the number of times I've seen survivors told they like rapists is disgusting- as a survivor maybe, possibly, idk, THINK ABOUT WHO YOU'RE TELLING THIS BULLSHIT TO. And you can't tell people they like Aegon ii/they're rape apologists without applying that logic to yourself. You like Daemon the pedophile rapist. You like Rhaenyra the racist misogynist (Don't deny it, she's the Caitlyn Jenner of women), and you like Mysaria who wanted to sell Alicent and Helaena to brothels and watch as they were raped and impregnated (Which Rhaenyra agreed to). So shut the fuck up.

[vitospaghetta]

those daddy kink asks had me thinking lol

do you think leon would be into younger girls at all? like not by a marginal gap or anything

No. I think that shit would weird him out, because seeing other men exhibit that behavior would put a bad taste in his mouth. Younger women being attracted to him would probably boost his ego as he gets older, but he wouldn't be interested in pursuing any sort of relationship with someone significantly younger than him.

The larger the age gap, the less you have in common with your partner because you are in two drastically different stages of life. You cannot argue that Leon values emotional compatibility and good chemistry and that he likes younger women, because a 38 year old and a 20 year old woman will never have enough in common to have a relationship that is anything other than sexual, in a way that is established to ultimately only benefit the man in the relationship. The larger the age gap (though this depends on the ages of those involved), the greater the power imbalance that exists.

I can't see him being comfortable with either. Leon has only ever pursued women who are on the same level emotionally and in terms of capability as him — Ada, Shen Mei, Hunnigan, Angela. Two of these women are older than him. The only woman we've ever seen him actively reject is Ashley, someone 7 years his minor.

The most I can see is him sleeping with a younger woman because she was willing to take him at the time, and it not really going beyond that. Though I think the older he gets and the more he works through his own bullshit, the less likely he'd be to do this.

People will get upset over Leon's "women" comment but will desperately want him to exhibit genuinely problematic misogynistic behavior because y'all are ageist as hell. I'm not gonna sit here and act as the sexual fantasy police — I've only been attracted to characters older than me my whole life, and the age gaps weren't always so relatively small, so I get it — but I implore some of you guys to look inward.

[mankrchronosod8]

#LeonKennedy says women's rights are important and so is a womans rights to their autonomy and their rights to not have their spaces and trophies forcefully invaded and taken from us against our will by misogynistic men who refer to us as "chest feeders" and "egg carriers", whoare too untalented to win trophies the regular way so invade women's sports. And not be silenced by men who think they're better than women. Leon also says that children shouldn't have the cult ideology of their parents forced on them and #transkids do not exist, it's only a projection of the mentally ill parents ideology. Leon says said homophobic and misogynistic men shouldn't be supported in their harassment of lesbians and their attempts to force homosexual women into a same sex relationship simple because the man identifies as women. #LeonKennedy is a proud supporter of #SaveWomensSports I don't make the rules sorry he just is

Ps: Leon Kennedy is not #transgender officially in the #ResidentEvil games no matter how many times you repeat it on Twitter I don't make the rules its just how it is #fanart #ArtistsOfTwitter #WomensRightsAreHumanRights #LetWomenSpeak - - - - - Drawn on 6/27/2024 This was a parody image I did of those drawings people post on Twitter of video game character wearing a shirt with a flag on it of something, as some kind of "proof" to support a "argument"(In quotes). Typically doing the Korean heart fingers for some reason. Often with cat ears but I didn't bother to put those here.

I assumed they were ironic at first, but they very clearly are not given how many times I was sent them on twitter lmfao. I've seen way too people using drawings of usually Leon Kennedy or James Sunderland wearing a trans or specific branch of the LGBTQIA+ shirt as actual "proof" that either the character supports it or the other person is wrong in the argument.

Usually it's people posting them on posts about Women's Rights as a way to call us transphobic, as if it adds literally anything to the discussion. Like oh no, don't send me your low quality shitty drawing of Leon in a trans shirt. My entire response is ruined. Oh no. The second most common one is them sending them to people who point out Leon or James isn't trans on posts where they show up to harass random people discussing random shit related to the games.

Anyways case in point, if people are free to post low quality drawings of Leon Kennedy with a trans rights shirt with the totally not bullshit claim Leon is a trans right supporter or trans himself, then I'm free to post my low quality Leon Kennedy with a Women's Suffragette shirt and say that Leon S. Kennedy canonically supports women's rights and not having our spaces invaded by men trying to take our rights from us

🤷🏻‍♀️srry Leon is a terf and cis woman supporter I don't make the rules💅👁👄👁💄 I do enjoy a good parody image or shit post once in a while but I didn't get as much amusement out of this as I thought I would. I find the idea of it all together just cringe, but cringey people gonna cringe. I really can't imagine attempting to "win an argument" by sending reaction images but welcome to Twitter; home of brainlets with no good arguments what so ever. It was kinda fun and unique though to draw a idea I not only thought was stupid, but something I would never personally do! I need to practice art I'm not invested in personally more. It feels good to just draw shit I'm not invested in massively. Like a weight off ones shoulders to not have to think :) I wanna do a edit of this of Leon wears a RCPD version. The vibrant colors hurt my eyes a bit. I do love his dinosaur emoji pants though. It's not one of my favorite drawings I've done, Leon's face is a bit weird and so is his hands but it's fine I guess. It's def a 4.5/10 on my own art scale. I learned art things from it anyways. I need to change my shading and lineart abilities.