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Over a year after this incident, I wanted to tell you more of my "quest" and of how, since I started grumbling about the matter, I've purposefully skimmed over THREE HUNDRED FIFTY M/F ROMANCE NOVELS at random and still haven't found what I was looking for (pls don't redirect me to fanfiction; firstly, I don't even have or want access to ao3, and secondly: this is not what my quest was about... it's a veeery long boring story about literary criticism and romance-novel tropes in mainstream romantic novels and blah-blah whO CAREs). And also of some other related things. But that's depressing. All of that is depressing. So instead, please have:
1) the shmoficial shtatement, regarding the Quest: I accept that I won't find what I'm looking for, I accept my internal reasons why, I give up looking, and I'm doing it all myself. again.
(I'd actually argue that Shmilter is it...but not quite)
2) the favorite (not the best, just the favorite, as usual) bit out of everything I have written this year. Namely, the angrily-metafiction excerpt from the second part of Lawful Status (i.e. Doing It Myself) which is a phone conversation between a teenage girl and her older obsessed-with-het-romance-novels sister who may or may not actually be the anthropomorphized chain of bookstores that only operates in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. Yes, what they're discussing is what's actually going to happen and will be Extra Real despite how it all sounds like a joke, but I'm limiting myself to a meager five postmodernist rug pulls plot twists.
Please read the excerpt. It's good.
Please wish me luck with this endeavor. I'm tired af, but I need to see it through. Fritz knows why.
Have a good one.
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“They just don’t write romance novels that I like, that’s all,” I said in a tone that came out apologetic. “But I wish someone did.”
“Hmm, maybe I could pull off something you’d like. Honestly, right now I feel like I could pull off a lot of stuff.” Thalia sounded dreamy and distracted. Totally infatuated with someone. “Or maybe it already exists! What’s your poison? Like, which characters are you looking for these days?”
“I guess I’d be fine with a broody, aloof, and mysterious hero, too, if he was also very sweet, kind and caring, but never possessive or jealous. He’s not that tall and doesn’t have bulging muscles, but he’s also strong and super badass and all the bad guys are terrified of him. And he’s bookish and curious about things. And observant and perceptive. Oh, and hot and beautiful and swoon-worthy. And affectionate and emotional and vulnerable and tender. And he doesn’t drink booze. And—”
Thalia interrupted me with a loud guffaw. “Bwahaha! Do-oll! You’re mixing labels! And tropes! Oof I love you-u-u. But yeah, those are contradictory, for the genre and in general. I’m not even sure if a human dude like this could e—Ehhh, who ca-ares. Fiction should be fictional, after all. Okay, and the heroine?”
“The heroine is not a pushover but not pushy either. Tranquil but not meek. She’s a stoikós. And cute. And intelligent and witty. And confident. She never engages in self-deprecation. She’s an extrovert, but not too talkative, because not all extroverts are perpetual chatterboxes. Talkative on occasion. Her family is the best ever. And she’s full of love and caring, too, but not in this feminine motherly way, just in a... caring way. She should also value honesty above all, and be fair and possess a heightened sense of justice.”
“Aww, I love her.” Thalia chuckled. “Don’t these two have any flaws? ‘Cause they sound flawless. Pobody’s Nerfect.”
The characters in Thalia’s favorite books are often presented as perfect, with the authors trying to utilize ‘mild clumsiness’ or ‘a tragic past’ as flaws.
Oh no. Those aren’t real flaws.
“Of course! A lot! But it should be unclear at the beginning what their flaws are. These characters should seem perfect to the point where they maybe even appear sanctimonious and preachy, or boring and painfully unrealistic, but there should also be a subtle implication that something isn’t right, something strange twitchi— scraping just underneath the surface like, are they lying? Are they pretending? Is it a facade? When their flaws and shortcomings are revealed much later on, they’d be unexpected ones. It’s like a plot twist. But those flaws would be understandable and maybe even relatable to the reader who by that time would have bonded with those characters. Or maybe in this way the reader who was okay with reading about flawless characters would have learned something valuable about their own flawed perception. You know?”
“Hmmm. Interesting. Okay, so what’s the plot, what happens to those two secretly super-flawed perfect cuties?”
“Well, they meet, then they go to various peaceful places, talk a lot, discuss life and aspirations, take long walks, eat together, sit by the sea, help each other feel more grounded and not be sad. Also, none of that ‘innocent girl, player guy’ nonsense! Either at the start their past sexual experiences equally match, or they’re both virgins, and it's no big deal.”
“Both? So something from the Sweet Romance category?”
I winced. “No.”
In the past, I’d tried reading a couple of those, because they took place in ‘charming small towns’. ‘Sweet’ romances would always leave me feeling sad and disheartened despite the declared Happily Ever After. First of all: charming, my kó̱los! Compared to our town or even Aigapeze: downright horrifying. No infrastructure, no public transport, no manufacturing, no viable economy, the whole horeca is one Bed & Breakfast and one cafe for the entire town, with everyone congregating in that cafe and drinking only disgusting drip coffee (eew), no one ever gets proper permits for fire pits or town-wide barbecues, every man chucks wood all the time even if there are no chuckable forests nearby, every house creaks, and every background character is either old and uneducated or just old, but they all root for the couple non-stop, as if they never ever have better things to do (well, maybe in that economy they don’t!) or better couples to root for...
The ‘Sweet’ romances I had read featured a disgustingly possessive buff hero and a meek, helpless and fragile heroine with blonde hair. ‘Sweet’ romances treated sex as shameful and taboo and were often accompanied by another equally depressing label: ‘clean’ — meaning they included no sex scenes — as if the only thing that sex has the potential to be is ‘dirty’.
‘Sweet’ had seemed like a hypocritical name to me, up until [my therapist brother] Kosta explained that those are written by victims of parental abuse who came from conservative families, likely Resto families, even. Or by single mothers, or by women generally saddled with too many responsibilities when they weren’t ready to take on those responsibilities. Women who are the loneliest of them all and dream of a strong and ‘simple’ man who’d come along and solve each and every one of their problems.
Kosta said, they are searching for reprieve and rest, for comfort, but because they don’t have any compassion for themselves, because they were taught to believe that the ‘correct’ women should only be meek homemakers, and because they are so sexually repressed and passive, they know no other ways to find this comfort and no other places to look. ‘Not their fault,’ he said. He also said, they haven’t been given a chance to internalize the fact that ‘possessive’ and ‘controlling’ means ‘insecure’ or ‘an abuser in the making’ and not ‘an industrious problem solver’. Real problem-solvers communicate and compromise.
His explanation made me feel even sadder... In truth, that was how I acquired an aversion to the whole genre.
Although Thalia reads every subgenre, she has never particularly liked ‘sweet’ romances either. Not for the same reasons as me. Mainly just because they aren’t over-the-top and wild enough for her tastes. In short, boring. Her favorites are insane bodice-rippers, with twists and turns and dragons on every page and with prose so purple that it puts sixth-plane lavender to shame.
Thalia also doesn’t mind reading romance novels written in first-person, but I don’t like those. For one specific reason: because of how the heroines in first-person romance novels constantly address some ephemeral reader. As if posturing for strangers and trying to impress them with her veneer. Which seems disheartening.
I once told Thalia that if the heroine is telling her story in first person and doing that whole ‘dropping random chunks of exposition’ thing and ‘hey you, look how Adjective I am’ thing, then she should actually be addressing someone real, someone she’s really close with, someone she cherishes and who cherishes her back, someone whose opinion is really-really important to her – and not imaginary strangers.
In response to this remark, Thalia had offered me a couple of historical epistolary romance novels, but I didn’t enjoy those either, because they had dragons and knights and tea parties and treacherous bodies, and I couldn’t relate t–
“Doll? Are you there?”
“Yeah. Sorry... No, I don’t want ‘Sweet’ romance. I want romance that is sweet, but also with smut like, there’s a few hot and steamy sex scenes that include open and direct communication, and he doesn’t treat her like an object, and she doesn’t detest herself, does not see sex as taboo and does not depend on his validation to feel good about her body which is never ‘treacherous’, by the way, and nobody is ashamed of sex, but neither do they sexualize violence and self-hatred.
“They also don’t want to have children, or don’t plan on having children, not for a decade at least. Or maybe ever. She does not need his approval in order to feel whole, because she’s already whole. He doesn’t need to be saved, and she doesn’t want to save him. Well, maybe a little bit... Not a big thing, though. Something small. For example, he’s looking for assurances about something, and she is an expert on that topic and gives him assurances. Or maybe he helps her realize an important tidbit about herself. But they don’t change or rearrange themselves for one another. They just accept each other as they are and enjoy being together, because together is nicer than alone.
“There’s no stupid family drama. No jealous bystanders. No ‘Mean Girls’ and no ‘Evil Exes’. No ‘sass’ or bickering. He doesn’t fly off the rails when another guy looks at her, and she doesn’t get jealous of other women either. The two of them don’t get into idiotic fights, or if they do start arguing, they talk it out right away. But most importantly, and I can’t stress this enough, and I mean it, mean it mean it, seriously, this is the most important part: there is NO! Second-act! Break-up!”
Running out of air, I went silent, mildly surprised by this sudden bout of enthusiasm and the lengthy and ardent description I offered with almost no thinking. Not like I’ve ever been that interested in the genre in the first place?
I was even reminded of my outburst at Thanas and Florent’s party, although this one wasn’t loud, exasperated, and annoyed-sounding like my ‘setting Florent straight’ (sic, Mom) monologue.
“Doll, I think the romance novel you’ve just described does not exist,” Thalia said, still chuckling.
“Well, it should exist.”
“It really should. And your description kinda reminds me of something... can’t figure out what.” Now Thalia sounded wistful instead of playful. After a short pause, she added louder, “Naaah, I wouldn’t be able to pull this off, not in a believable way. Sorry. I’d get disorientated and also bored if I tried to write something like that. Hate to say it, doll, but there should be a conflict of some sort.”
“No conflict! Not between them. The rest makes no difference to me, they can do whatever, they can kill people in between meals for all I care, just as long as they do it together and there’s no conflict between the two of them.”
“Hehehe,” huffed Thalia, back to chuckling, “so-o their secret flaw is that they’re homicidal maniacs?”
“No, because if they were, that would change the genre of the novel. But we’re still talking Romance, right?”
“We sure are. Anyway, what I meant by conflict: a novel needs plot development. They can’t just... be. You know? There should be personal stakes regarding their relationship. Or an obstacle, something standing in the way.”
“But what if nothing’s standing in the way? What if they just communicate a lot, all of the time, and treat each other with affection and respect, and always operate as a team and have each other’s back, no matter what they do.”
“Aww. Like Mom and Dad?”
I sighed. “Yes.”
Thalia also sighed and went silent. I wondered if she wanted to say ‘Mom is a seeress, Korynne’, like I had suspected Kosta would say on Teleftaia Mera, like I believed Theo would say if given a chance or reason (although I’m not so sure now), except maybe Thalia would add something about Dad being the kindest, most allergic-to-conflict person ever who is into being an open book with Mom...
In the end, Thalia pivoted and said only this: “If there’s no conflict and no second-act break-up, then no one will publish that romance novel and no one will read it.”
“Well, they should.”
“They should,” she agreed unexpectedly.
“You really think so? But you wouldn’t read it.”
“I really do. And no, I wouldn’t. ‘Cause, like, where’s the thrill? Maybe only as a sedative.” With this, she yawned, as if even the idea of a romance without drama and dragons was putting her to sleep. “Aaargh. Akh. I wouldn’t, but many others would, you included, which is great, and I’m all for every person finding a book that’s right for them... Look, you’ve mentioned this a few times, so just lemme put something out there. About communication. Or lack thereof, and not like I’m such a big fan of miscommunication as a plot device. It’s okay in moderation, but it often gets damn pathological with how shitty some characters are at talking and being honest. Fantasy-levels of shitty, believability at zero. Makes me wanna punch them, or worse.”
“Worse?”
“Yeah. To leave a book unfinished. ‘Cause in this case I just can’t buy into the characters staying together afterwards. When it’s possible to write anything at all, why choose to write a boring downer in which no one behaves like a real person? Gimme a break, uugh. So yeah, of course that novel you want can be written. Fiction is fiction, and anything can be written. It’s not impossible to write about people who communicate like always-in-order phones. But writing that in a believable way is hard ‘cause real life’s real life. In real life, even if two people tell each other everything that’s on their minds, even if they’re honest and neither of them is posturing, there’s still no guarantee that miscommunication is not gonna happen. Of course, it wouldn’t be caused by them withholding important info on purpose. Not even by their overconfidence or anything. They might simply be speaking different dialects, that’s all. Like, one says their truth, the other hears their own truth, and vice versa. They’d need time to bone up on each other’s thesauri— Thesorosus. Thosauruses? Phrase books! Hehehehe. A-anyway. In real life, our implicit biases are sometimes much stronger than a deliberately shitty intent. Can’t just jump head-first into perfect communication.”
“Can try,” I insisted.
“Can try,” acquiesced Thalia after a beat. “Can definitely try. Also, I bet this process itself can be turned into a plot. Somehow. Hmmm.”
“So you’ll write it after all? The romance that I want?”
“Naaah,” Thalia said again. “Why don’t you write it.”
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on it, sis.
Me: *grumbles again how there aren't any good f/m romances that I would enjoy and 100% not find problematic*
My SO: I know one! :D
Me: just fyi, that prank [where you gush about how you know a good but realistic f/m romance that's decently written and everyone is nice to each other and there's some smut and no conflict, and the guy is great and not toxic but not a macho and there's no 'masculine smell' and washboard abs bullshit — and then when I ask the name, you send me one of mine and cackle for ten minutes] won't fly anymore. I'm IMMUNE.
My SO: Fair enough. I'm sorry. *gets dressed a while later* I'm going to the supermarket for a snack, need anything?
Me: Yes, we're out of yogurt and bread rolls. Thank you so much.
My SO: No problem.
My SO: *comes back in a bit, plants a huge globe eggplant 🍆 on my desk, leaves the room, is cackling*
........I do still find it funny, yes.
It's also funny how gullible I am.
But all kidding aside, I would have really liked the answer to be something else aside from 'you need to write it yourself' (because that's the whole 'joke'/advice, I'm guessing) or 'reread a thing that you've reread ten times before'. Because sometimes I'm so demotivated that I can't write anything at all.
Anyway, I'm making ajapsandali, I suppose.
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Oh anons flooding my inbox to tell me that I’m a conspiracy theorist for thinking there’s more to this finale than meets the eye and/or that it’s totally the writers’ fault, you have no idea how much I do not care! I’m tagging anything related as “finale theories” and you should feel free to blacklist it using whatever method you so choose. I’m staying away, until the dust settles, from drawing any conclusions about what exactly happened to the script (either to make it what it was pre-covid or post-covid) or what cut scenes might have contained, or who was at fault for how it all turned out.
To the anons who think I’m reading too much into Jensen and Misha’s relative “silence” on the finale, I have some comments. With Misha it’s harder to tell, but I am completely convinced that Jensen is deliberately not engaging with finale-related content because he’s so alienated, angry, and disappointed. I think Misha is finding ways to talk about it that he thinks will support the fandom, rather than the network, and frankly he is far more used to having to deal with the feeling of being screwed by the network but still loving the fans. But Jensen really trusted them and they did him really dirty.
Leaving aside the fact that neither Jensen nor Misha was in the CW “thank you” video--which is LOUD AF of them--let’s look at the social media angle. We already know that Jensen wasn’t happy with the finale as it was written (which likely included Dean dying and, yes, that was probably his biggest beef, but I’ll bet he had some words about Misha’s character too) and talked to several people about it. He was then told to accept it and make his peace and he did that and did the best he could. Now, since November 5th we’ve heard very little from him and definitely not in the ways you would expect to hear from the star of a long-running show like SPN.
He’s been much more forthcoming about how proud he was of the scene he shot with Misha in “Despair.” Jensen and Misha both posted about 15x18 and Jensen happily talked about it on a livestream. It meant so much to him personally (as the last scene they’d film together, or as a momentous moment in the show, or as something else) that he had someone film it on his phone just for him and admitted breaking character. They talked it through beforehand a lot. They talked about it after a lot and texted each other fan reaction videos. They were glad to be able to do something that meant so much to us and that brought the story to this point.
Over on Twitter, Misha seems pretty much his same self, using the proper hashtag (which in the old days of Twitter he used to mock Jensen for not knowing how to do) and RTing nostalgic comments from Kripke, Jim Michaels, etc. His personal tweets just tagged Jensen and Jared. The set pics he shared were from 15x18. Jensen just gave Entertainment Weekly a RT for the finale. He’s pretty much full-time on Instagram, but that’s still pretty little engagement. He liked two tweets, both on 11/5 when 15x18 was airing, by Misha and Bobo Berens, but zero tweets related to the finale. (Jared tweeted during the finale a few times and then sent some comfort to the fans. FWIW he also didn’t RT or tag any network folks. I think he’s probably less happy than he seems, but he’s a company boy doing a new show with them so his hands are tied.)
Over on Instagram, on the day of the finale Misha was busy. He posted a pic of Maise “Spon on-set props assistant” in a trench coat robe. Jensen liked that. He also posted a video recapping and asking people to tune into the finale. Jensen did not like that. THEN he posted a pic of him and Jensen filming 15x18. Jensen liked that. Pic of Misha and the kids about to watch SPN? Jensen likes it. Pic of Misha crying during the finale and saying how much he’s going to miss Sam and Dean that actually tags Jensen? Jensen does not like it. The gist? Jensen “likes” all Misha’s posts from that day except the two related to the content of the finale (rather than watching it with West and Maison...and besides, soft boy Jensen isn’t going to not like a pic of West and Maison!).
And here’s Jensen’s account. On November 3rd, Jensen posts to thank TV Guide. On the 19th he posts to thank Entertainment Weekly. On the day of the finale, he posts a pic of Dean’s boots and a video of him getting dressed as Dean “for the last time - for now.” (I think that was a clumsy attempt not to spoil anything but I will also hold onto the idea that maybe he will do his own version of a sequel. The day after the finale he posts a slightly salty photo of the piece of rebar (aka “the rusty nail”) that killed Dean captioned “Excuse me....uh, ‘set dec’!!! Can we get this removed please?!?!” and uses the hashtag “spnfamilyforever.” That’s the hashtag for us--for the fans--rather than anything official. Those posts were both for us too, showing him loving Dean and loving being Dean and being just as pissed as us about his death. (For the record, Jared posted a pic of him watching the finale, also hashtagging the spnfamily, and Jensen liked it.)
All the people that he’s not thanking reads very loudly. Contrast to all the thanks he (and everyone else) were throwing like roses at the 300th episode party. Jensen is a generous guy. He’s professional, everyone likes him, and he likes to credit everyone for their accomplishments. For him to be this silent and not write a single caption thanking ANYONE aside from TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly (who he needs to keep on his good side for his own production company)? IS SO OUT OF CHARACTER!!! Every con, every interview, he talks about how they couldn’t do what they do without the help of all these other people along the way. To not have it in him to thank those people? He must be hurting so incredibly badly.
He cares about us so he’ll do what he can for the SPN family. But it won’t surprise me if the clusterfuck of an ending alienated him so much that we don’t get things we might otherwise (more panels, for example, or cons) because he is just done working with the people who hurt him. I’m glad he was smiling in that most recent livestream because he sure doesn’t seem happy right now.
#asks#kind of#anons#spn finale#finale theories#jensen and the finale#jensen about the finale#jensen about dean#jensen feels#misha and the finale#misha about the finale#15x18#15x20#jared and the finale#cast twitter#cast isntagram#insta jen#insta mish#social media cockles#dean deserved better#jensen deserved better
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I’m a little late for this, but 11. What’s a fanfic idea you haven’t done yet? And I have a slightly modified 6. Is there a detail you’re waiting on bated breath for readers to notice, and if so could you give the vaguest of hints in the correct direction? I want to take a crack at it, which will give me a good excuse to reread, lol
Hmm well there’s the post-canon first time fic, which I did start writing but it got waylaid by Hail Mary, whoops. And another fic set in the same universe as that one, Solidarity, and The Sting in My Eyes (a loose series) where they go up to Prime’s ship and Catra finds her mask. And... is now a good time to announce that I’m working on Satisfaction sequel? ;)
As for 6, I honestly can’t think of anything right now, I’m super tired. It kinda changes chapter to chapter anyway. Instead I’ll give you a few random facts that have yet to show up in Hail Mary but are established in my head:
Lonnie’s last name is Williams and her jersey number is 23
Catra works at Denny’s (and yes I tried to work in a joke about a free birthday meal in chapter 4 but none of my attempts fit)
Catra’s father was of Puerto Rican heritage (his parents moved to the States a few years before they died), and her mom was mixed European. (I’m thinking primarily Irish and Welsh, possibly some German thrown in there, but she wasn’t really aware of her heritage as her great-grandparents immigrated in the 1800′s. She was basically from a generic impoverished white family.)
Adora’s mom was a mix of Norwegian, Welsh, and Scottish, and the last name Grayson came from the Scottish side. Her father is an unknown entity but I headcanon him as still alive and unaware of Adora’s existence, or at least unaware of the fact that she’s his. Her maternal grandparents are still alive and aware of her existence, but she was born addicted to heroin and they didn’t feel they could take care of her and their troubled daughter (who got clean and relapsed several times and eventually died of an intentional overdose when Adora was 14), so they gave her up to the system hoping a better family would take her. They were, of course, unaware that she’d turn out to be autistic and that would torpedo her chances of getting adopted (along with the drug history, obviously).
On a less heavy note, the green-haired and brown-haired side cadets are named Devon and Alycia in this universe, and they’re dating. Devon grew up in Thaymor and knows pretty much everyone there, and this leads to some interesting social encounters at Entrapta’s party. (Yes I’m bringing back my hot OC, shhh...)
EDIT: Oh! And yeah, this is in the tags of the fic and I think I’ve mentioned it on my blog, but it’s only been hinted at so far in the body of the story: Catra has undiagnosed ADHD. She kinda half-assed self-diagnosed it and is bitter that Adora gets accommodations for her ADHD because she’s officially diagnosed. Adora got diagnosed for several reasons:
It was more obvious with her because she struggled a lot in school, while Catra was better able to compensate for the scattered focus with her genius-level intellect
Adora was already diagnosed with ASD and they’re known to go together
*hurk* white privilege, i.e. hyperactivity is more likely to get written off as a behavioral disorder for POC
Weaver wanted to get it looked into with Adora because she’s the one that matters to her, while she just saw Catra as a brat (mostly because she’s a dick who writes people off, but also because Adora was a pretty even split of the inattentive and hyperactive types, while Catra skewed more hyperactive).
Related, Weaver put both Catra and Adora in gymnastics when they were 5 because they were bouncing off the walls and driving her to drink (more). Adora was clumsy af but had fun jumping into the foam pit and goofing off. She did it for a couple years because she liked spending that time with Catra, but gave it up when it started to get more competitive and she found other sports she liked better. Catra was much more coordinated and took to it easily, which was the only reason Weaver put any effort into her for the next several years. She quit as a pre-teen because the emphasis on feminine presentation made her really uncomfortable (i.e. triggered some serious gender dysphoria) and she hated the pressure to stay skinny, as she wanted to bulk up.
So yeah, if you figured out Catra has ADHD without seeing it in the tags or on my blog, you’ve already done some great detective work. ;)
Fanfic Day Meme
#asks#ncamferdam#ask games#writing asks#fanfic#writing#satisfaction#hail mary#backstory#worldbuilding post#autistic adora#adhd adora#adhd catra#enby catra#(implied anyway idk if that will come up before the possible sequel)
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Ven’s Idea Outline #1 (Maribat)
Remember that MariDamiJon fic that I mentioned I was going to do for the gift exchange? It’s still bouncing around in my head and Luka decided to join in so I’ve decided to at least make an outline in (assuredly vain) hopes that it will leave me alone for a bit.
Ao3
Part 1
Typical Daminette but Hanahaki style bc I can’t find any Maribat hanahaki fics and I need one and I can’t find any.
Dick and Damian sent to scope out Paris for Hawkmoth related reasons
Jon goes with bc he’s Damian’s emotional support kryptonian but he might arrive later This idea has been removed but I like it so I will share it.
Damian is getting familiar with the new battlegrounds taking a walk in the park when a girl falls from a tree and lands on top of him
The girl apologizes profusely before explaining that she’s really clumsy and she was just trying to help a kitten stuck in the tree
It’s not love at first sight but Damian appreciates an animal lover and is slightly less of an ass than he would usually be
Might mix this with my Blossom Soulmate AU that I never got around to finishing and posting, now that I think about it
Anyway, Damian helps her get the cat down from the tree
He latches onto this potential information source who is not as annoying as most other people and sticks with her
They become friends friendly acquaintances and he drops by her school to pick up her up after she agreed to show him around Paris.
Debating Lila salt...
Debating Class salt...
If yes: Damian walks into a scene where Marinette and sweeps Marinette away without a word to the rest of her class
If no: Damian arrives and proceeds to wait for her outside by his motorcycle
Either way, his appearance makes waves in Dupont’s rumor mills
They do not know he’s Damian Wayne, just that there’s a dude who attractive enough to be model with a motorcycle waiting for the schools (tragic, if salt) sunshine fashion princess.
Robin and Nightwing meet up with Ladybug and Chat Noir to offer their help in figuring out who Hawkmoth is, as well as fighting and training.
Full Miraculous court meeting with Ryuko, Viperion, Queen Bee, Carapace, Rena Rouge, Pegasus, Bunnyx, and Monkey king. (Rena Rouge is removed if Class salt. Replaced with Fox!Nath or Fox!Julieka)
Ladybug and Robin get along
About two weeks in Adrien starts officially dating Kagami.
Another week passes and Damian finds out Marinette has been coughing flower petals and her unrequited love is her classmate Adrien Agreste.
She refuses to remove the hanahaki - this version is the standard they can’t fall in love ever again if they remove it.
This revelation makes him oddly uneasy, it isn’t until his own Hanahaki shows up later that night that realizes he understands why.
Damian does a pretty good job of hiding it.
Dick knows something is up but he’s trying to give Damian more space so he doesn’t look into it and trusts Damian would ask him if it’s life threatening
Ladybug notices his discomfort on patrol and they talk
He is surprised to learn Ladybug also has it and Robin comes up with the brilliant idea that they should fall in love with each other.
There is precedent that if you fall out of love with the person, the Hanahaki will go away. But falling out of love is difficult and not easily done. There must be no lingering romantic feelings at all.
Ladybug encourages Robin to chase his crush first, because he at least has a chance if the girl he likes also has it.
Cue the debates
If Ladybug wins: Enter Damian going all out in flirty assassin seduction techniques from his mother - Good Talia that kills rapists, none of that she raped Bruce bs, she actually had a good relationship with Bruce and a mutual breakup because of differing views on killing people - that he’s barely used since his lessons on it in the league and romantic advice from Dick.
He goes full on Bitch-sensei from assassination classroom.
He’s commissioned a shirt from Marinette. She gets to design it however she wants.
It is a long sleeved button up, specifically made to accentuate his muscles without being too revealing.
That’s the shirt he wears when he asks her out with flowers and a stuffed kitten holding a stuffed wood board that says “please date me” He has his sleeves rolled up to his elbows, top button undone. Collar and hair ruffled up for maximum sensuality. He’s got a lot of references between all the people he knows (Bruce, Talia, Selina, Dick, and really his whole family is full of objectively attractive, seductive people he can reference. Just as long as he avoids mimicking their failing romantic habits, he should be fine.)
He tries to be suave about it but is a little too nervous to completely pull it off. It doesn’t matter because Marinette finds it endearing.
On the date, he’s more confident and is able to pull off suave bastard much better but only at the end. He’s a gentleman until the very end, when he leaves her in the bakery
He goes in, and twirls her admittedly short hair around his finger, maintaining eye contact as he presses his lips against her hair - it’s admittedly harder than he expected given how short it is but being so close made it more intimate and the blush on her face was definitely worth it
He leaves in the bakery slightly dazed and counts the date as a success.
Marinette’s mind shut down bc damn that boy is fine and smooth af is flustered and confused as heck but she’s willing to give him a shot
Alternatively: Marinette’s not sure about dating Damian because she feels like she’s just using him to get rid of her hanahaki bc of the idea that Robin had proposed.
Dick is ecstatic that Damian was acting weird because he had a crush and loved helping his brother out with this date planning in the city of love
He doesn’t report it back to the batfam yet because they had a small argument about it and Damian pulled away with the small victory of Dick has to wait until after the first date to tell them.
Damian is glad he Marinette’s willing to give him a chance but he’s worried about Ladybug
he wonders if he should set her up with Tim or Duke, it’d be a shame to lose a friend and hero like her.
Robin brings up his success to Ladybug and asks if there’s anything he can do to help her.
She notes that a friend had actually confessed to her and she’s giving them a chance.
They accidentally compare notes on their dates and that’s their reveal.
If Robin wins: An awkward start that smooths into moonlit dates on the Eiffel tower, dancing on rooftops, an increase in flirting but only after battles, never before it bc they have a professional reputation to keep, increasingly physical training routines, stolen kisses but not on lips until they’re more comfortable with each other.
Fast tracked mutual slow burn which kinda defeats the purpose of a slow burn but whatever
I have realized these ideas are not mutually exclusive.
Maybe Ladybug wins first but Damian fails to seduce Marinette because she has the doubts so they go with plan B and date each other. Ladybug is more comfortable with the idea of dating Robin because they both have Hanahaki and are knowingly using each other to get rid of it?
There is no identity reveal in this version
Complaint Break time: I was writing this to get it out but it keeps growing, wtf. This is so long and I haven’t even gotten to the main part.
It was supposed to be an established Daminette but I wanted to show how they got together, this was supposed to be like 5 bullet points, 10 tops.
At some point, I’m going to have to mention the rumor that people with Hanahaki are being kidnapped because the flowers that bloom after their death make great medicine but that cures most illnesses and are good potions ingredient whatever, something along those lines. It’s not the ones they cough up but the flowers that grow on the vines constricting their lungs after until they die and only blossom after death. Those flowers that spread the pollen into the air that makes the Hanahaki disease possible.
That’s why people keep it a secret unless they’re going to get the surgery as there’s not other way to treat it.
But that’s a plot point for part 2.
I feel like this is already longer than anything I’ve put out at this point in time.
Back to the story:
Even though they’re dating, the Hanahaki doesn’t go away immediately. It slows and becomes less frequent but there are times when they think of how their love doesn’t return their feelings and the flowers come back with a vengeance and they’re down for the day, possibly the entire week, hacking up flower petals and buds.
(Ladybug Wins version until otherwise stated) It’s during one of these fits that Dick finds out and is angry at this girl playing with his brother’s feelings.
Damian is too busy hacking up bloody flower petals to correct him
The entire batfam and subsequently Superfam now know the batfam’s youngest has hanahaki
Jon is called in and flies in to help keep an eye on his best friend
Bruce, Jason, Tim, and Duke are shocked but they pack up and are ready to go in guns blazing to have a talk with this girl bc the boys might not be on the best terms but that’s their baby brother. The girls stay behind to hold down the fort (because I need more time to get familiar with them before I can confidently write their characters. I’m not too confident about Duke either but I already mentioned him and it’s too late to back out now.)
So, Damian’s brothers and his father track her down to a different park in Paris where Marinette’s hanging out with her friends
They’re incised to find their brother’s girlfriend with another guy’s arm around her, leading her away from the main group of friends
It’s Luka, he’s helping her hide her hanahaki because she assures him that she has it under control and will go with him to the hospital if it becomes too much
They confront the couple
There’s a lot of intimidating posturing and accusations
Batfam is absolutely not prepared for the bloody flowers that spill from her lips - her hanahaki is even worse than Damian’s
Detective bats (correctly or incorrectly, depending on which version happens) put the pieces together and figure they’re dating to get rid of the hanahaki, that is something Damian would absolutely propose
and oh shit, this time it’s not just Bruce that’s adopting someone. They have a little sister now.
Luka explains what he knows about the situation and basically confirms what they’d deduced.
Welp, since they’re here, Hawkmoth has become top priority.
Hawkmoth takes one look at the Miraculous circle and the new set of bats and just- nopes out plus super boy and just nopes out.
Like, he tries but he has no expectation of winning and tries to run instead. It doesn’t work, they have all grounds covered.
I should probably make use of Mayura if I ever do write everything out but she didn’t really leave much of an impression on me tbh and I don’t have a lot of ideas. Maybe if I ever go back and watch it.
Celebratory, on-the-spot kiss between Robin and Ladybug where they do “oh“ and realize the pressure in their chest is finally gone and the Hanahaki is no more.
(Robin Wins) Dick is obliviously happy about little Robin leaving the nest and finding a mate until he finds out both the little heroes coughing up flower petals on their date
then he goes in and mother hens them both, before demanding answers
He’s also less happy about this whole dating thing
Dick can’t do much about Ladybug without revealing her identity but Damian isn’t getting out of it so easily
Dick figures out who Damian’s crushing on and goes to do a little investigating. He is very surprised to see it’s a bubbly, energetic designer girl and not someone... calmer. But then he thinks of Jon and it makes a little more sense
He talks to her, asks about what she thinks of Damian and is pleasantly surprised by her positive view of his brother. He asks if she would go out with him and she coughs up some petals
Now, Dick’s freaking out and why are there so many children with Hanahaki? This is the third one in two days!
fast forward because I’m finally out of ideas for this part
Ladybug knows she’s fallen for Robin, which was the entire point of them dating but she not sure he actually reciprocates or is still trying to forget that other girl.
Or if you went the other way, Robin’s still chasing Marinette but Ladybug now likes Robin and is aware that he’s trying to woo her. So, out of the frying pan and into another for her.
Robin is absolutely having regrets bc he is an emotional wreck and crushing on two girls and this was not supposed to happen, damnit.
A meta gets akumatized and takes out half the miraculous court but turns out the meta’s psychic ability can help track Hawkmoth so its all cool, now that they know what Hawkmoth feels like
Ladybug, Chat Noir, Ryuko, and Robin vs Hawkmoth and Mayura
Nightwing stayed behind to watch the other heroes are no longer brain dead from the battle but boy are they out of it and he has to make sure they get home safe
that does not mean he’s not extremely put out and worried about it since he knows half the team has hanahaki and it may interfere with the fight
Even if the Ladybug suit lessens the hanahaki attacks, they still happen from time to time
For two people who don’t show up to fight often Hawkmoth and Mayura put up a good fight
Ladybug has an hanahaki attack and Hawkmoth tried to take advantage of it, only to get knocked out by Chat Noir who’s still pissed at his dad for causing this whole thing
Chat Noir and Ryuko are pretty shocked Ladybug has hanahaki, even more her timer runs out and she choses to present it to Robin
Robin is shook
He gets it together and pulls her into a kiss that cures their hanahaki and makes their brains melt
Now Marinette’s kinda confused bc what the other girl
Damian, slightly shifting his mask so she can see who he is: That other girl was YOU
Now Marinette’s the one who’s shook
Note: Chat Noir and Ryuko have both de-transformed at this point and are watching with wide eyes but they do not see who is under that mask. Also, no cameras in this section of the manor bc that would be proof.
They have a lot to talk about but it works out in the end.
the outline above was written out of order bc I had to go back everytime a new idea hit and I cannot be bothered to go back and dodeca-check this thing again just to make sure everything makes sense.
Part 2 (that was supposed to be the main story- finally made it, the starting point. I cry.)
Ok, so, now that Daminette is established and the evil is defeated
Damian returns to Gotham with his girlfriend in tow to introduce her to the rest of his family, despite his better judgement
Jon is happy that Damian is in happy, loving relationship but he’s a bit sad that it’s not him and oop, sunshine kryptonian boy got hanahaki’d.
Same for Luka. (Yes, Jagged will be his dad and a Gothamite.)
Jagged and his kids join them in Gotham bc he has to be there to show his favorite designer niece around to all the best places of his hometown.
Luka finds out Jon has Hanahaki and they bond over the experience
They make a pact to cover each other and get the other to the hospital when it gets to that point
Pining/Simping meetings over their best friends that for some unknown reason seem to lessen the flower coughing over time even though these meetings probably make things worse but they also need vent before it increases again.
Luka and Jon beginning to fall for each other but they think the other is still in love with Marinette/Damian and it’s true that they still hold feelings for their best friends that aren’t diminishing in the sleightest and it’s all very confusing.
It’s even more confusing when we add the new hero in Gotham, Viperion who’s there to continue training with the bats since he’s visiting the area, rescues and lightly flirts with Jon who ended up developing a small crush and Jon realizes he has a type.
So, poor Jon’s now crushing on Damian, Luka, and Viperion
Viperion meets Superboy and the kryptonian doesn’t seem to like him?
Luka’s crushing on Marinette, Jon - still doesn’t know that Damian is Robin. And is kinda curious and a little hurt that the Robin’s oddly familiar kryptonian is actively and obviously avoiding him and that heart song is kind of familiar but different.
Viperion also gains a crush on Robin after watching him take down a thug in a very graceful way - the bird was showing off for his bug and decided to make it a little showier, he accidentally also caught a snake
Ladybug and Robin still flirt but the court - aside from Ryuko and Chat, depending on which version - think that’s just their dynamic, though they do pull Robin aside for a bit to tell him she has a boyfriend now. He assured them it’s fine and he knows, oddly amused at their attempt.
man, I am not original with this identity porn thing
It isn’t until Luka sees Jon again that he puts it together.
Marinette suspiciously notes Luka and Jon been hanging out an awful lot she’s making connections to the time she had hanahaki and Luka covered for her
The pains of befriending deductive genii.
Cue the panic and they accidentally claim they’re dating but it throws Marinette off for now, so it kinda worked?
Hanahaki fic with a fake dating AU. Oops.
Mari decides since she and Damian don’t know this, they must have been neglecting their best friends and double dates are the way to go.
Cue more panic
Unlike Marinette who is willing to trust their word, Damian’s a suspicious bastard who’s kind of dubious and a little salty that Jon didn’t tell him earlier if they’re telling the truth but Mari’s all gung ho about it so he lets it go for now
They go on the date and it is an emotional mess for everyone involved
It starts out fine
Jon and Luka act a bit weird because they have to cover for each other randomly coughing up petals, not to mention they’re on a date with their original crushes without actually dating their original crushes not even mentioning their new crushes and the secret identity reveal that Luka still hasn’t confronted Jon on and Jon’s guiltily thinking about Viperion half the time he thinks about Luka and shouldn’t it be the other way around?
Yeah, so they’re a mess
Damian’s watching them like he’s trying to figure them out and it is not helping but thank god Mari’s distracting him totally on accident
Marinette? She found a random lost kid in Gotham looking for their parents
So now the double date’s been temporarily derailed to help the lost kid
While Damian’s watching Marinette try pass the crying kid off to Jon for a moment so she can make a phone call to report a lost child but the kid’s clinging onto Marinette, and they exchange looks so Jon calls in the lost kid instead and he’s just struck with the idea of a family with the three of them and some kids
Cue panic time (again)
Ignoring the thought of children, why was Jon in his fantasy?
Luka’s just watching a smitten boy go into panic mode over the trio and while doesn’t quite know what’s going on in Damian’s head, but that was really cute and oh not again
They find the kid’s parents, and the date moves on
Jon’s more comfortable, Marinette wasn’t really bothered in the first place. Luka and Damian are now having crises
Luka makes a joke under his breath in an attempt to calm down before his Hanahaki acts up
It did not help bc Damian overhears and gives a small amused snort that made his heart stutter but hey positive interaction!
Both Marinette and Jon but end up having feelings very similar to the one Damian had earlier when they look over at Damian and Luka’s little interaction - Damian’s giving Luka a small smirk and Luka is entirely embarassed at being heard when he wasn’t hadn’t meant to be.
But then Luka gives Jon a small sign before he excuses himself to the restroom so Luka can run off and cough up his flower petals
You remember that whole thing about the kidnapping people with hanahaki so they die and medicine and things can be collected from the flowers springing up from their corpse thing? Yeah, the kids are in Gotham and there is definitely a group there that has dealings with the trade and someone saw Luka hacking up flowers
but they mark him and pull back to plan instead of kidnapping him then and there bc drama and Jon followed him to the restroom to check on him
Date ends ok and everyone’s kind of an emotional wreck
Damian has surprisingly learned his lesson on miscommunication and guiltily confides his fantasy to her like a parishioner to his priest
Marinette basically goes same and confesses about the moment she and Jon saw his interaction with Luka.
“So, We’re together, and they’re together...and I might be in love with Jon, you think you might be in love with Luka... What now?“ Damian asked, trying to make sense of it all
“We could...” Marinette swallows, “um, all four of us? together?“ she offered meekly. Seeing that Damian seemed to like the idea, she continued. “Y’know, feel out how receptive they are to the idea and then just seduce them?”
Ok, so the temporary communication skills were nice.
Because instead of talking it out with their best friends, they decide to seduce them but to be fair, there’s at least one version of this where Damian got where he did because of seduction.
Between both Damian and Marinette’s phsyical attractiveness, their combined determination and stubbornness, Damian’s assassin seduction knowledge, and Marinette’s fashion ability and tactical knowledge of where to accentuate what, Jon and Luka have no chance of leaving pining hell for the foreseeable future.
Marinette doubles down on the “double dates” aka, seduction plans in action and group hang outs, aka much more softer, subtle seduction plans
Marinette and Damian do not do much seeing how receptive they are and really just jump right into the seduction, except they adjust the plans so Luka and Jon don’t catch on so Daminette couple thinks it’s ok to go all out.
Cue seduction and pining hijinks, and a whole lot of bloodly flowers and plenty of internal screaming
Damian learns that Luka might not be too bad in the group and Jon is panicking because oh shit he’s got another crush and it’s his best friend’s girlfriend.
the quartet’s love issues are really full circle... or whatever this shape is supposed to be. Because there’s still the whole Viperion/superboy thing and - i just... I’m not going to keep analyzing this.
Somewhere during this, Jon confesses his feelings this particular friend group to Con, leaving out the whole Hanahaki thing. Con tells Tim for advice on being a big brother and things happen but I’m not sure what. I just want TimCon and the Superboys bonding
So a couple weeks pass by the Hanahaki’s getting pretty bad and Luka suddenly goes missing
Ladybug and the bats are on it as soon as they realize he’s gone
Except they are missing one, very important piece of information
Luka’s hanahaki
So, for the next few days, they don’t get anywhere until Jon slips up and ends up coughing up a shitton of bloody flowers which leads to panic, confusion and explanation, bc wtf Jon, you’re supposed to be dating Luka and that’s definitely not unrequited
So everyone gets the full explanation, the final piece of the puzzle snaps into place and the bats are on it.
Marinette and Damian have to put aside that whole revelation in order to track and save Luka before he dies of Hanahaki
They both make sure to kiss Jon first so he doesn’t get handicapped by his hanahaki like Ladybug did but he and Luka will be on thin ice once they get Luka back
So it’s pretty much a race against time bc they don’t know how bad Luka’s hanahaki is
Tracking, beat up bad guys, possible magic related villain(s) searching for potion ingredients that may take harm Superboy more than than if they weren’t there
They rescue Luka or Luka and Ssass break out as Viperion and meet them halfway.
Hey, the identity reveals!
Either way, at the end of it, Luka ends up with Ladybug and the unconscious and they have to wait until he wakes up to administer the kiss/cure bc it doesn’t work if one party is unconscious
which sparks an interesting idea of a sleeping beauty-cinderella style hanahaki fic where it would work if they’re unconscious, and the patient has to find go out to find who cured them and I’ll have to adjust some other rules of the hanahaki disease such as who can cure it but goddamn it
So while Luka’s out, Marinette and Damian confront the possibly injured but very much awake Jon
Once Luka wakes up and is brought up to speed, they take care of his hanahaki and work out the new boundaries of their new relationship
Part one is longer and I’m a bit put out by that. This made much more sense in my head but if you got this far, my rambling must have made some sort of sense.
#Maribat#mlb x dc#Daminette#Ven's rambling#Ven's ideas#Ven's idea outline#DamiJon (Maribat)#LukaMariDamiJon#LukaMariDami#MariDamiJon#yeah#im not getting every part of this ship#polymory#wait no this is polyandry#whatever poly relationships#drama#pining#angst#there's not actually much angst given this is a hanahaki outline#romance hijinks#partial crack?#hanahaki#Hanahaki Maribat#Idea Outline 1#sigh#this was longer than expected
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sorting into their hogwart houses (theboyz edition)
sangyeon
gryffindor, muggle born. hes just passionate in anything he does, his leadership shines best. goal-driven, hard working and always want to excel in every subject. a prefect who is quite strict and nagging eric most of the time.
jacob
hufflepuff, half blood, hes an angel.... but when he’s on field for quidditch he’s not the same angel jacob anymore. he becomes serious in game and is one of the best captain ever. he plays guitar and sings with kevin in his free time other than quidditch.
younghoon
hufflepuff, pureblood. he may look like a gryffindor on the outside but he’s a hufflepuff for sureeeee. the famous handsome kid in school everyone likes him but he runs away when girls catch feelings or start to make a move on him. has a pet owl and probably his favourite subject in hogwarts is care of magical creatures.
hyunjae
slytherin pure blood ofcourse. MISCHIEVOUS ASF but is good at everythingggg. grades, As. quidditch, best player. hes not aware that everyone admires and have a crush on him. hangs out with eric though he’s younger, people always thought that they were like twins.
juyeon
GRYFFINDOR. half blood. passionate but is clumsy af. when hes good at one thing that’s the only thing that matters and its quidditch for him. also famous with girls and knows it so everytime he scores a point in quidditch he'd do his signature pose to the audience making them go crazy.
kevin
hufflepuff. muggle born but is a wizard at heart. chaotic but actually is quite reserved. IS A SWEETHEART and he’s the type to listen to everyone's problems and worries. eventually knows all the gossips at hogwarts cs people just tells him everything. best friends with jacob and they are just glued together.
chanhee (new)
ravenclaw. muggle born even though most people thought he would end up in slytherin because of his face and the way he dress luxuriously. didnt quite understand how he got into hogwarts. was weirded out at first but got used to it fast when he made friends with changmin. is good at transfiguration and arithmancy.
changmin (Q)
slytherin but muggle born. doesnt seem like it but quite competitive. determined to prove a muggle born can be as good as purebloods or even better. soft on the outside but he actually bites people when he’s angry. was the first one to approach chanhee cause he SWEARS chanhee looks like his childhood friend ((he’s not tho))
haknyeon
ravenclaw. half blood. good at manipulating people NOT IN A BAD WAY. must be from his experience working at young age in muggle world he knows how to get around with people. flocks around many groups of people just to sell his products that he invented himself.
sunwoo
slytherin. pure blood. does not work that hard but excels in all fields. hates his homeworks so he barely do it. the professors know hes good at most things but he finds studying boring especially anything related to theories and reading. he likes defense against the dark arts. hangs out with chanhee and changmin who help him to do his homeworks.
eric
a very LOUD and ENERGETIC GRYFFINDOR. pureblood. is just friends with everyone and always find fun in everything, even in detentions. admires weasley twins and thinks he and hyunjae could become like them too. he was popular and basically friends with everyone except sangyeon who is always there to get him caught while trying to prank people
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im just doing this for fun and these are from my point of view. sorry if it doesn’t fit them but im no sorting hat aite? hehe i hope you enjoyed reading this! tell me your opinions too i’m curious to know ;-)
#the boyz#sangyeon#jacob#younghoon#hyunjae#juyeon#kevin#new#q#haknyeon#sunwoo#eric#hogwarts#harry potter#slytherin#gryffindor#hufflepuff#ravenclaw#headcannon#sangyeon fic#jacob fic#younghoon fic#hyunjae fic#juyeon fic#kevin fic#new fic#q fic#haknyeon fic#sunwoo fic#eric fic
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The MCU doesn’t understand Peter Parker.
Civil War did a good job introducing Spiderman into the fold organically and Homecoming was a nice starting point for Peter. BUT The MCU does not allow Peter Parker to face the consequences of his actions & grow on a personal level via his own journey (unattached to others like Tony). A lot of people praised Homecoming for how accurate the teenager vibes were yet that authenticity and insecurity is limited to Peter Parker and not extended to Spiderman’s world. In Infinity War, Peter’s jump into battle with Tony makes sense due to the foster parent relationship and hero mentality, but after they save Dr. Strange on the ship, Spiderman’s confidence should start to waver. Tony warns him this is a one way trip, and Peter shows no signs of hesitation or fear despite a clear lack of experience (which for an awkward & clumsy teenager is unrealistic AF). Instead the MCU uses him as comedic fodder, throwing movie references and innocent child-like naivete to brush aside the potential for a very human and relatable situation where a kid is trying to prove their worth, in way over their head, and could experience doubt, anxiety, and embarassment over the choices made and about to be made. Consequences do not carry over the MCU for Peter and that is a huge lost opportunity. Flash forward to Peter literally DYING AND SENSING DEATH ARRIVING at the end of Infinity War. A brilliant emotional beat and twist...that in no capacity ever affects Peter in Endgame or Far From Home. Tony Stark experienced immense PTSD, nightmares, and near heart attacks from just witnessing alien invaders. PETER FOUGHT A GOD IN SPACE & DIED and never is shown to be emotionally or psychologically effected. Instead all his character’s emotional capacity is put toward Tony Stark. Again. So this comparison and idea of legacy is more important than the characters arc or journey as a superhero earning his keep? If you don’t commit to consequences, the risks or stakes lose value. Peter doesn’t want to bring his suit to Europe because of TONY’S DEATH not HIS OWN. What about the notion of a uniform that places burden on oneself (LIKE a cop, a doctor, a soldier, or other roles that require immense willpower and are associated with heroism). There’s no exploration of how his secret identity is damaged by the actions of his public one/vice versa? Tony Stark himself faced terrorist threats because of his Iron Man displays, Steve Rogers BEST FRIEND IN LIFE was purposefully used against him as a weapon that nearly killed him, Natasha Romanoff forgave Clint Barton for killing SHIELD operatives because she made difficult decisions fighting him and surviving THANKS to him when she was a teenager.
Where is Peter Parker’s personal struggle and when does it EVER manifest in the MCU? Will it ever NOT be undercut by jokes? You’d think after dying, he would question the choice to be Spiderman at all. In Spiderman 2 (Sam Raimi version) Peter concerns himself with how capable he is at saving and helping people. This fear and indecision leads to him LOSING his powers, a huge consequence and moment for audiences to relate to those everyday anxieties or responsibility and how capable a person can be. In the MCU this never happens. Peter knows other heroes exist and can fill in the blanks as he figures out his mental well being. If what’s left of the Avengers at the beginning of Endgame could handle Earth’s problems, post Endgame why couldn’t he ask one hero to fill in for New York (like DAREDEVIL) while he deals with everything he endured? The answer is the same reason why Peter Parker and Spiderman are consistently detached from one another’s actions; Tony Stark. Tony being a father figure is fine. But the MCU’s obsession with Peter taking that role and position means there’s no room to dive deeper into Peter’s intentions and Spiderman specific journey. The comics always explored the roots of very human choices and difficulties Peter faced, both in and out of costume, and WONDERFULLY manifested his human problems into hero problems by evolving those issues. But comedy and Tony Stark disable Peter from actively carving his own path and mark on the MCU. In Far From Home, at his lowest point, instead of having to deal with all the consequences thrown his way and created by his actions, Happy Hogan shows up in a cozy private plane, he jokes about Peter renting P0rn in Germany, gives him a half-assed pep talk about TONY, and suddenly building a new spiderman suit is all Peter needs to OVERCOME his emotional, psychological, and physical betrayal by Mysterio? What. The. Fuck.
Lastly, the MCU has used any consequential story thread for Peter and Spiderman as a punchline.THREE TIMES. In Civil War post credits, Peter jokes about being bullied is given a whole UI from Tony, gazes like a kid on christmas (with no regard as to how he almost died just for Tony Stark’s benefit). In Homecoming Aunt May finding out his secret is a joke and never analyzed deeper, making it a surface level punchline gag and removing the moral and familial weight of May and Peter’s relationship. In Far From Home Peter has his identity revealed at the end of Far From Home in the exact same punchline gag way. In the end, I think a big part of why Spiderman/Peter Parker are so disconnected is the creative team behind the films (solo ones especially). Directors are a dime a dozen, and while consistency is important (specifically for Avengers films) I think fresh ideas and perspectives are more important. I’m disappointed Jon Watts is returning for Spiderman 3, I was underwhelmed with Far From Home. Please let Peter Parker be himself, stop relying on Tony, CUT BACK THE JOKES that interrupt emotional beats, and give someone else the directing reigns. Please.
#spiderman#spiderman homecoming#spiderman far from home#spiderman mcu#tom holland#spiderman 3#sony#mcu#disney#spiderman spiderverse#peter parker#marvel comics#marvel#tony stark#avengers#avengers endgame#avengers infinity war#civil war#steve rogers#natasha romanoff#clint barton#captain america#black widow#hawkeye#disney +
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1, 10, and 16?
Thanks for the ask @benjami-n 💌👀
1. Which Hogwarts house are you?
I’m a Ravenclaw with infinite imagination, curiosity and creativity but who has a deep dark secret which is that time management for certain assignments is difficult. YES WE EXIST, RAVENCLAWS WHO STRUGGLE WITH MAKING STUDY/ADMIN SCHEDULES EXIST
Edit: I’d say I was a Slytherin but I don’t know how much of that is just wishful thinking. But I have gotten both Slytherin and Ravenclaw when taking Hogwarts House Sorting tests. So maybe I’m both green and blue? Can I be both? Lol. But the predominant result was Ravenclaw and I think it fits. I do have some key Slytherin traits. My favorite colors are primarily blue, green and black. Idk what that says, I feel like I’m not precisely in either house. I could be in one or the other. Anyway. Ravenclaw I guess
10. Which character do you relate to most, and why?
Neville Longbottom. I too am clumsy. I too have in the past been intimidated by a teacher. I too have a love of the study and nurture of plants. Underrated courage. Underrated intelligence. There’s a few things but realistically I think I relate to his character arc.
I also relate to Tonks because she can transform (I do acting and theatre so that fits the bill I think) and she’s rough-and-tumble, fairly confident in social situations, with a great sense of humor and MOST IMPORTANTLY she likes older partners — which is me. Great minds think alike. Excellent taste, Tonks
Otherwise I’d say I relate to Trelawney because she’s dramatic and frankly ridiculous and has crazy hair and wears glasses which of course fits me exactly
16. Who would be your enemy or enemies at Hogwarts?
I mean. That one kid. Zacharias. He seemed annoying af. Oh and Marietta Edgecombe — because SNEAK. Idk about the Slytherins, I’d probably be chill with them. And in terms of the professors — UMBRIDGE UMBRIDGE UMBRIDGE
#hp asks#severusish says#TBH I COULDNT CHOOSE JUST ONE CHARACTER I RELATE TO IM SORRY!!!!#severusish asks#severusish thoughts
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Liyada’s Fics Masterpost
It was time I wrote a Fic Masterpost.
So for everyone who is interested by my fics, firstly I invit you on my AO3 where you can litteraly find everythng, especially since I don’t post the fics directly on Tumblr.
And if you want the details, here we go!
Also here the plan, because the post is really long lmao-
I/ Pokespe
1. Multi-chap fics
a) Three Years
b) The Magical Dexholders
2. AUs
a) Yorozuya no Lack-chan
b) Legendary Dexholders
c) Blonde Family
d) Yokai AU
3. Stand-alone OS and Drabbles
a) OS
b) Drabbles
II/ Other fandoms
a) Champion (Marvel)
I/ Pokespe
1. Multi-Chap Fics
a) Three Years
This one is my baby, the one I had been working on for 2 years and a half, the one I progressed the more in, and also the one I haven’t updated in a year even if I have 6 chapters ready to post, cause I’m lazy af. Also the ones where you can very easily see how much my writing progressed since I started writing for Pokéspe.
Warning: Graphic Description of Violence, Major Character Death (though this one is complicate and don’t fully apply)
Genre: Angst, Adventure.
Words Count: 69,567
Statut: In Progress
Characters: The whole Spe cast up to SM.
Relationship: Background Frantic, Entourage, Agency and Laverree, a lot of other friendships.
Summary: Some secrets should never be revealed. Or should they?
After a strange explosion, X and Y fear the apparition if a new threat for Kalos, and decide to get themselves implicate. But things are not as simple as they look, and nothing will go the way they want. And as those attacks take bigger scales and start to involve a large number of people, they would have no choice but to find the motive behind them to stop them; even if it means getting back on some bitter memories from three years ago they all would have preferred to forget...
List of chapters: Part I: Kalos
1. The Explosion
2. The Lumiose Badlands
3. Shalour City
4. The Attack
5. Next Action
6. Lumiose City
7. Blackout
8. Chase in Lumiose City
9. The Next Day
10. Couriway Town
11. Sunrise
12. Tic Tac
13. Terminus
Part II: Unova
14. A Day in Driftveil City I
14.5. A Day in Driftveil City II
15. Welcome to Unova I
15.5. Welcome to Unova II
16. The Twist Mountain I
16.5. The Twist Mountain II
b) The Magical Dexholders
This one is purely self-indulgent fic, where I basically write the dumbest thing that get in my mind. Aka some Dexholders become Magical Girls or Boys, but they’re dumb, but it’s okay because the bad guys, their friends and their world in general is dumb.
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Parody, Humor, Friendship
Words Count; 27,944
Statut: In progress
Characters: The whole Spe cast up to SM, and some OCs
Relationship: Diamond & Silver, Blue & Yellow & Gold & Platinum, Green & Crystal & Pearl
Summary:
It’s an emergency! The Darkness Power Of The Terrible Evil has invading the Pokespe world and take over the region of Kanto! Some magical fluffy creatures needs help in order to stop the Darkness Power Of The Terrible Evil!
The day Dia met a strange professor fan of Magical Boy and a strange pink creature, he knew his life would never be the same...
In the meantime, Blue and Yellow have to face a terrible threat to get back their home, but get new abilities in exchange.
List of chapters:
1. A story is not interesting if nothing go wrong in it
2. If you are a Magical Boy, don't forget to take an insurance for building destruction!
3. If the authorities say that a radioactive cloud did magically stop at the border, you can totally trust them!
4. You can’t be a protagonist if you don’t have an ultimate move, a dark past or a secret identity!
5. No matter how good it looks on TV, sh*t stay sh*t!
6. An homage to a work becomes a fanfiction when it becomes an important part of the plot, you moron!
7. If you update on the 1st April everyone's gonna believe it's a joke, even if it isn't, so update on the 31st March!
2. AUs
Those fics are not multi-chap fics, but more like OS and drabbles that are related between each others.
a) Yorozuya no Lack-chan
Heavily inspired by Gintama, AU where Lack did not get back in Interpol and started doing odd jobs instead. Serie of Drabbles.
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Parody, Humor, Friendship
Characters: Lack-Two, Whi-Two, X, Sun
Relationship: Lack-Two & Whi-Two, Lack-Two & X, Lack-Two & Sun
Summary:
When Whi-Two bumped into Lack-Two after months, she was not expecting him to went from Interpol officer to dog walker. And neither that he’d get her, and this guy from Kalos, to join he’s odd jobs agency.
List of chapters:
Dogwalker Lack-Two in action!
The Blazing Begining of Odd Jobs Yorozuya no Lack-Chan!
b) Legendary Dexholders
In a world where being a legendary Pokémons can be boring, the legendary Pokémons decides to have a little bit of funs. Shenanigans ensue.
Aka the legendary Pokémons decides to become humans, and of course they happen to be our favorite DHs.
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Friendship, Family, Supposed to be comic at first but also goes on the character study sometimes
Characters: Silver, Giratina, others for next OS.
Relationship: Implied Preciousmetal, Blue & Silver
Summary:
When Whi-Two bumped into Lack-Two after months, she was not expecting him to went from Interpol officer to dog walker. And neither that he’d get her, and this guy from Kalos, to join he’s odd jobs agency.
List of chapters: Giratina
c) Blonde Family
In which Yellow, Pearl, Bianca and Y are all cousins. Shenanigans enssue.
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Family, Comedy, Crime
Characters: Yellow, Pearl, Bianca, Y
Relationship: Yellow & Pearl & Bianca & Y
Summary:
Family reunions are rarely all peace and calm. But when, out of four cousins, you have three Dexholders and a clumsy professor assistant, things are bond to be messy.
List of chapters: To be a cousin, Don't listen others confessions or you'll end as responsible as them
d) Yokai AU
What if yokai existed in the Spe universe?
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Supernatural, Friendship, Adventures
Characters: Pearl, Schilly
Relationship: Pearl & Schilly
Summary:
Pearl had first seen them when he was four years old. And he had learned to live with this world only he could see, to maintain his balance of a normal life.
He had just not expected one of his junior to also see them.
List of chapters: Chilling Party
3. Stand alone OS and drabbles
a) OS
Here you can find the 1K+ words stand-alone OS. Links are in the tittles!
A Good Christmas Movie is Made of Hot Chocolate and a Fire-Breathing Cat
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Horror, Parody, Christmas, Hallmark Movie, Specord Winter Writing Event 2020
Words count: 4093
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Y, Sun
Relationship: Implied Laverree and Delivery shipping, Y & Sun
Summary:
Everything is perfect in Y's life. Too perfect, like in a Christmas Hallmark movie. Now, with a fire-breathing cat name Sun, it's up to her to find a way out of this Christmas hell.
One-shot wrote for the Winter Writing Event on the Specord, with the prompt X & Sun, Horror and Parody, My Life is a Hallmark Movie and PMD, and Chuck E Cheese's Ball Pit.
Celebi-rities in Distress
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: Parody, Friendship, TV Show
Words Count: 5017
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Sapphire, Lisia, Ruby, Emerald.
Relation Ship: Background Franticshipping, Sapphire & Lisia, Ruby & Emerald
Summary:
Sometimes, it only takes a silly TV show, weird games and arrogant prissy boys to make a new friends.
Or how Sapphire became friend with Lisia to teach Ruby and Emerald a good lesson.
Bonding on the Grand Line
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: One Piece AU, Pirate
Words Count: 2948
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Pearl, Cheren, Sinnoh and Unova Gym Leaders
Relation Ship: Pearl & Cheren, Mentionned Commoner Shipping, Past Pearl & Diamond & Platinum, Mentionned Cheren & Black
Summary:
In a world where Gold Roger is still an unknow name, Pearl and his crew left North Blue for the Grand Line. But are they ready for everything waiting them?
Of Swords & Of a Gun
Warning: No Warning applies
Genre: AU, Angst,
Words count: 4209
Statut: Two-Shot, in progress
Characters: Pearl, Cheren, Sinnoh and Unova Gym Leaders
Relation Ship: Soudo & Bede, Bede & Rose, Soudo & Schilly, Schilly/Hop, Bede & Schilly & Hop
Summary:
In a world where everyone has a Sword, Bede is an abnormality who has a Gun.
In a world where the Tsurugi family is the best blacksmith clan of Galar, Soudo fails to meet people's expectations.
In a world where they have to fight and find their places, will the two of them discover why they exist? Maybe the answer had been in front of their eyes since the beginning.
Pallet Association
Warning: Graphic Description of Violence, Major Character Death <3
Genre: Cyberpunk AU, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Kanto Week, Angst, Dystopia, May be a bit OOC for certain characters
Words count: 3637
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Green, Blue, Red, Yellow, Prof. Chen
Relation Ship: Green & Blue, Green & Blue & Red & Yellow, Green & Prof. Chen
Summary:
In Pallet City, one of the biggest megalopolis in the world, the Pallet Association controls everything. Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green decide that it needs to change.
But Green may have forgotten to mention a few details to them.
(This OS have two alternative endings because I couldn’t picke one)
Storytelling
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Fluff, Domestic, Comedy, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Johto Week
Words count: 2843
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Silver, Gold, Crystal
Relation Ship: Silver & Crstal & Gold
Summary:
Silver has apparently never heard a fairytale of his whole life, so Gold and Crystal decide to give him an express fairytale class. Turned out that it was a really bad idea.
Festival War
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Comedy, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Hoenn Week
Words count: 2843
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Emerald, Latias, Ruby, Sapphire
Relation Ship: Franticshipping, Emerald & Latias, Emerald & Ruby & Sapphire
Summary:
It's the summer, it's time for festivals, but with the Hoenntrio and their love for bets and contests, it could only go wrong.
Family Business
Warning: Craphic Description of Violence, Minor Character Deaths <3
Genre: Angst, Villain AU, tw: Drugs, Weapons, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Sinnoh Week
Words count: 3596
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Platinum, Diamond, Pearl
Relation Ship: Implied Entourage
Summary:
Because she was the heir of the Berlitz family, she will continue to develop their wealth and their power, no matter what it takes. No matter if the path she’ll take was full of blood and corpses and crimes.
Parent-Teacher Reunion
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Comedy, School life (but it’s still in the canon universe), Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Unova Week 1
Words count: 2638
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Cheren, Black, White, Bianca, Iris
Relation Ship: Agency Shipping, Cheren & Black & White & Bianca & Iris
Summary:
Did you ever wonder how was Black's school life? Well, welcome in this parent-teacher reunion where Cheren have some things to say about his childhood friend...
Crimes Movies are Sad Except When Everyone is Dumb
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Crime, Comedy, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Unova Week 2
Words count: 5565
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Whi-Two, Lack-Two, Hugh
Relation Ship: Whi-Two & Lack-Two & Whi-Two
Summary:
It was a normal day for Whi-Two. A casting, a murder, two former classmates coming from nowhere... ... Wait, what?
Strength
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Character Study, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Kalos Week
Words count: 2198
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: (Malva’s) Delphox, Trevor, Furfrou, Floette
Relation Ship: Delphox & Trevor, Delphox & Furfrou & Floette
Summary:
Delphox was strong. Malva was strong, too, but Malva's had lost, so Malva was weak.
Delphox had lost too, but she could not admit she was weak too.
No, she was strong.
It was the boy who was weak.
Treasure
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Negative Spe AU, Adventure, Friendship, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Alola Week
Words count: 1649
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Sun, Moon
Relation Ship: Sun & Moon
Summary:
Sun always liked helping at the soup kitchen, seeing the smile and laughs of everybody around him, but the lunch breaks were always the best moment.
Too bad that this girl decided to ruin this one.
The Child of the Outdoor
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Character study, pre-canon, Pokespe Amino Festival 2020: Galar Week
Words count: 1317
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Schilly, her Pokémons
Relation Ship: Schilly & her Pokémons
Summary:
Schilly always loved outdoors. It was joy, fun and great memories. It was her Pokémons, too.
Professor Santa
Collab with @coppertrapinch for the Specord Secret Santa Event! (Check her work she’s amazing!)
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Comedy, Christmas, Specord Secret Santa Event 2021
Words count: 3623
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Prof. Oak, Prof. Birch, Prof. Samson Oak, Prof. Rowan, Prof. Juniper, Crystal, Gold, Sapphire, Trevor, Soudo, Schilly, Prof. Magnolia
Relation Ship: Prof. Oak & his need for a break
Summary:
Something was bound to go wrong with Gold organizing a party... but a Secret Santa on top of that? Poor Crystal was just too stressed at work... it was time for Professor Oak to step up to the plate. Can the renowned Professor save Christmas in time without gaining another wrinkle?
...No. No he cannot.
The Christmasly Idiotic Adventures of Pearl and Lack-Two, or the time when two idiots stopped an evil organization while being on a gift hunt
Warning: No Warning Applies
Genre: Comedy, Christmas, Specord Secret Santa Event 2021, Crime (??), Adventure
Words count: 5326
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Pearl, Lack-Two
Relation Ship: Pearl & Lack-Two
Summary:
Pearl liked Christmas. Really. Well, except when some (false) "Gift Fashion Specialist Journalist" disturbs all his plans and ruins his gift hunt. Why do he has to get a present for such a brat anyway?
Screw up Secret Santa! This year, we're gonna kick some ass for Christmas!
b) Drabbles
Ok no big presentation here cause it’s only very short drabbles (>1K words)
Valentine Day 2020: Laveree Shipping
Valentine Day 2020: Entourage Shipping
X teachs incorrect French words to Gold
Crystal is scary and very powerful
Soudo and Chilly don’t like they English localized name, and Marvin is too young for this
II/ Other fandoms
a) Champions (comics)
Heat-Haze Days
Warning: Graphic Description of Violence, Major Character Death <3
Genre: Angst, inspired by the Kagepro song “Kagerou Days”, Time loop
Words count: 4213
Statut: OS, Complete
Characters: Miles Morales/Spiderman, Kamala Khan/Miss Marvel, Sam Alexander/Nova
Summary:
It was a normal summer day, everything was fine... But the heat of haze had decided otherwise, and it was up to Miles to try to find a way out.
#fic#pokespe#marvel champions#Liyada's fics#fic masterpost#trainer red#trainer green#trainer blue#trainer yellow#trainer gold#trainer silver#trainer crystal#trainer ruby#trainer sapphire#trainer emerald#trainer diamond#trainer pearl#trainer platinum#trainer black#trainer white#trainer cheren#trainer lacktwo#trainer whitwo#trainer x#trainer y#trainer sun#trainer moon#trainer schildemilia#trainer schilly#trainer sou
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Please write an irondad post about how peter feels about tony!! I feel like the directors make peter’s view of tony more subtle than Tony’s view of peter and it’d be awesome if you could decode it! ;0
Hi!
God, Tom’s words really got me♥
I’m going to use the movies and novelizations for this, especially the Homecoming novelization since I think no one talks about it and I want to point out certain things.
Ok, check this out:
Tony’s POV:
Peter's voice was as exuberant and light as ever, something Tony both secretly admired and feared. This battle would be no place for someone as green and unbroken as Peter Parker.
Tony smiled as Peter stood tall in the center.
"Yeah, that makes sense" Peter said, and Tony's heart broke. Even hanging off the side of a spaceship hurtling into space, seconds from dying, Peter Parker was still just open and trusting as he'd always been.
--
Peter’s POV:
"What if she’s expecting someone like Tony Stark? I mean, imagine how disappointed she’d be when she sees me."
dorks.
I just wanted to be like you.
And I wanted you to be better.
You know that feeling you get when you admire someone and at the same time, you feel like you can actually understand them? Yeah, this is them. They work like a mirror. This is how Peter feels, just like Tony sees himself in the kid, Peter identifies himself in Tony. Peter and Tony both react the same way when it comes to their relationship. They both think the other is ‘better’ and at the same time, they can understand each other pretty well.
Tony’s POV:
At the same time, Tony knew there was nothing he could do to keep Peter away. Just like Tony, Peter had a code.
Peter’s POV:
Of course, Mr. Stark hadn't believed him. He'd seen right through him.
Peter has stated before that Tony made him feel okay and normal, something he never thought he’d feel again. He knows that if he gets Tony’s approval then he gets to feel that normalcy again. He feels understood.
It was probably the only place in the city where I fit in. You had your overachievers, genius-level-yet-stressed-out-obsessive-compulsives, inventors of the Next Big Thing, all with at least one overblowing backpack, all wiling in to forge new ground and show the world that nerds really would inherit the earth. I was surrounded by students showing off their newest advances in AI technology, ���rebels” furiously hacking their way to exposing corruption online, friends discussing string theory, and the probabilities of Stephen Hawking’s multiverse.
This is how Peter thinks of himself, he thinks his school is probably the only place he fits in. I think I mentioned this before in my homecoming analysis but Peter’s need to be an Avenger is because 1. he truly wants to make a difference, 2.he’s bored, he’s a genius kid and school is not doing enough for him anymore and 3. he feels like Tony is the only one that can understand him.
I don’t understand exactly why but some people think Peter is dumb. He can be clumsy sometimes but this kid is a genius and he understands the struggles of having a brain like his.
“Do geniuses know how normal things like backpacks even work?“
“Yes, we are familiar,“ Peter replied with a weak smile. If only she knew...
--
“Right as always,” Ms. Warren said, her praise causing Flash to stare daggers at me. Whatever.
--
“Yeah, my parents feel guilty working all the time, you guys would really get along, Peter” Her joke hit a little close to home, and I looked down a little.
--
He looked from the ship to the other kids on the bus to see if anyone else saw it. Nothing. Just him. As usual.
Peter not only wants the understanding that comes from Tony, but he also wants someone he can relate to. And I’m not talking about money or fame, I’m talking something deeper.
When they were on the plane, Peter criticized Tony’s choice of food as if telling him that what he was eating wasn’t enough to be considered ‘food’ and then proceeded to only have some juice and sleep the rest of the trip because he recklessly pulled an all-nighter. lmao irondad stans you guys are always accurate with your fics.
Also, are you really going to tell me that this is not what a relationship between a father and a son look like?
"I really don't want to sound like my old man here. Look, kid, Just forget the flying man. Stay closer to the ground in Queens, build up your game helping the little people. You know, like the old lady who bought you that churro." That churro. Happy had told him everything. "Look, Tony—uh, Mr. Stark," I started. --
My suit agreed. "It does seem unwise. Trespassers are prosecuted. Or shot' "It's worse than that—if they find me in here, Mr. Stark is gonna kill me!" I started to panic. I had to get out of here! --
"Okay, sorry, Mr. Stark" I sighed. "I know you said to keep a low profile, but I gotta get out" I started banging on the door.
--
Tony Stark's words echoed in my head: Keep doing what you're doing, saving the little people.... Except these weren't just the little people"—they were my friends. As long as they were safe, everything would be okay. I didn't need to wait for that call to be an Avenger. I was already Spider-Man.
I just love how they unconsciously treated each other like family.
Peter, just like any other teenager, looks for validation from people he admires. In the Homecoming Novelization Peter congratulates himself every time he does something good and loves it when it comes from Tony for the same reasons I listed before.
Finally, we pulled up a safe distance from the apartment, so we didn’t attract too much attention. We sat in some seriously awkward silence for a moment before Mr. Stark finally said something.“Ya did good, kid,”
“I did good? I did good!“
“It’s yours,” Stark replied. “You earned it.” My heart was going a mile a minute. “Awesome!”
Look at them mirroring each other when it comes to them and how they feel.
Peter’s POV
“Yeah, and pretty soon it’s going to lead to a real job with him,” I said, trying to convince both him and myself.
Something really cute about them is that they both are exactly as you guys picture them in fanfics. They don’t say each other’s first name but think of each other that way.
Peter’s POV
“I thought I was gonna freeze up after Tony yelled out ‘Underoos.”
That churro. Happy had told him everything. "Look, Tony—uh, Mr. Stark," I started.
Tony’s POV
Tony had only continued onto the ship because he felt certain that he'd gotten Peter safely out of harm's way.
"Kid! Where'd you come from?" Iron Man asked, his voice sounding a little too relieved and grateful for his taste.
They refuse to call each other by their names even if in IW they already had a more solid relationship than in HOCO, for them it’s ‘Kid’ and ‘Mr. Stark’. They even have other nicknames, as you already know but one of the cutest nicknames is ‘boss man’. Tom Holland calls RDJ that in real life and they used that nickname in the novelization.
When RDJ said this:
The amount of betrayal Stark has had to deal with and what it's like to try and open up to someone new. The actor points out that Peter is young and that treachery comes with age. That his character is more willing to trust Peter because of his age. And how the relationship was established in the previous film when Tony shuts Peter down after he's been hurt. Not a move Tony would've done with most of the other Avengers, expecting them to push through just as he would.
He’s absolutely right, as you can see, they both banter but at the same time Tony opens up to Peter without hesitation.
trust
"So where are you?" I asked, looking around suspiciously. I half expected to see a drone In the sky spying on me.
"India." came the response. "I thought I'd hit up a Hindu temple. Center myself. That sort of thing."
banter
"Thank God this place has WI-Fi or you would have drowned."
"I had a strategy." I did not have a strategy.
'What, to die and fight him in the afterlife?"
Another example of them mirroring each other is in IW. It's been said in the novels that Tony making Peter an Avenger when did was something he considered a big choice and major sacrifice. He truly didn’t want him on the team, not because he thought Peter wasn’t capable, but because he wasn’t ready for Peter to be that. Meanwhile, Peter, who knows Tony is pretty much capable on his own, said he stuck himself to the side of the ship in IW because he thought about Tony.
The same level of protectiveness, same thoughts.
Like a mirror.
.
Also how cute are Peter’s thoughts about Liz?
Liz walked by with the rest of the Homecoming committee, and the entire world seemed to melt away around her.
“It’s working for her.” I stared at her outfit and agreed that it was definitely working for her. OUR SPIDEY BOI IS FLIRTY AF
She was thinking of me. The warm fuzzies started.
Liz defending Peter from Flash?:
“I can’t believe we’re catering to him. We don’t need this dork.” Good. There was my opening to break it to them that—“As team captain, I disagree,” Liz cut in.
"No way!" he objected. "You can't just quit on us and then turn around and stroll up here and—" "Flash. Liz cut him off, her voice leaving no doubt as to who the captain was.
Liz smiled at me as I took my seat. Don't blush. Don't blush. I blushed and gave a small smile back as I settled in next to Ned for the trip to Washington, DC.
And Peter’s eternal beef with Betty either sharing Ned or with Spider-Man. I love for this friendship lmao
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surveys by emptyliketheocean
Brand of cigarettes you smoke? I don’t smoke
Should you be trusted with a person’s life? Nooope I’m clumsy as shit and idk how to take care of people
How’s your life in general? Frustrating
Have you ever put lipstick on anything besides lips? Not sure
Have you ever picked a fight you knew you would lose? Not really. Maybe on the internet
What’s something you think is crazy about the world? Capitalism
What do you think about religion? I don’t believe in it and while I support people being able to have their own beliefs, I think on a large scale it causes a lot of problems
What about when religion causes violence? That’s what I mean
What color is one of your hats? I have a lot of hats. One is purple
How do you feel? Discouraged
Have you ever gotten in trouble for laughing? I’ve gotten some dirty looks for laughing at an inappropriate time
Something that makes you smile: That post about getting your clothes fresh out of the oven
What do you think about surveys with lyrics as the title? I don’t care, I probably don’t know them
Do you have any clothes with small holes in them? Yes
Do you think the way you live is really okay? No, it sucks
Do you know anyone other than a cop who has ever owned a cop car? No
Have you ever felt fire? I’m sure I’ve burned myself at some point
Have you ever seen a person light themselves on fire? No
Have you ever used crutches when you didn’t need them? I’ve played around with them when my friends had them
If you had 15 beers you would be: Drunk af and would probably have to pee really bad
Are you as bored as I am? Probably
Why are you taking this survey? To procrastinate
What would you say if a person asked you why your face was so messed up? I’d be sad
What would you do if your first love asked you back out? It would be awkward now because I have a boyfriend
What’s your home life like? Fine but I hate having to live with my dad
Do you have a talent that you don’t do anything with? Yes
Do you know anyone that is a lesbian? Yes
What do you think about your mom? She’s nice but can be overbearing
What do you think about your dad? He’s cool but can be annoying
Which parent do you respect the most? Both for different things
Is there anything someone could lie to you about that you couldn’t forgive? I’m not very forgiving about lying in general
Who do you love unconditionally? My parents and my best friend
Pick an element. Neon
Have you ever wasted a great amount of time and felt horrible about it? Yes. Have I learned? No
What is something that’s been said about you that isn’t true? In middle school someone spread a rumor that I stuffed my bra
Who do you want with you when you’re scared? My boyfriend
Know any bands that not many people have heard of? Only marching bands
Do you have any advice for people in general? Get the vaccine
What’s something you like to do in the summer? Go swimming and go to the renaissance festival
What’s something you like to do in the winter? Go ice skating
What do you think about marijuana? I don’t personally like it that much
Do you wish anyone death? No
Have you ever felt like you weren’t getting anywhere with a person? Yes
What do you feel for the person you first fell in love with? Idk, I’d probably still get flustered around them
Where are you? At my boyfriend’s house
Are you waiting for something? To find a job and to be done with the pandemic
Who is someone you just think has a hole in their brain? Republicans
A candy you like? Butterfingers
Does any part of your body hurt at the moment? No
Explain how you got the last bruise you had. I don’t remember Are you tired? Not really
Explain how you got a scar you have. I ran face first into a brick planter when I was a kid playing cat and dog with my neighbor
Have you ever owned anything illegal? Bootleg musicals (haven’t filmed them, just have some saved on my computer). Also rocks I wasn’t supposed to take from parks
What do you dream about? Random stuff
Do you ever daydream? Yes, all the time
How do you feel about vegetarians? They can be annoying
A fruit you like: Blueberries
Have you ever seen a person eat a bug? No
Something you worry about too much: My career
How do you feel about smoking? I don’t like it
If you had to move out of state, where would you go? Maybe Boston or LA (if I could afford it)
What is your favorite vampire-related movie? Idk, maybe twilight I guess? I haven’t seen that many
Is there a person you keep coming back to? In my head
If you’re listening to music…Give me a lyric from the song you’re listening to. I’m not
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Mercury’s Retrograde in Scorpio
Yup it’s finally time, the third and final Mercury retrograde of 2020 kicking off at 11 degrees in Scorpio! While we’re familiar with Mercury’s themes of communication, study, thought, and travel/transportation, Scorpio gives an emphasis on dissection, secrecy, you know digging deep into the heart and soul of things. Scorpio’s traditional ruler, Mars, is retrograde in Aries and facing a nasty T-square with the sun and half the outer planets, adding a bit of sinister energy to this retrograde as the sign’s ruler is battling it out with half the planets in the sky.
Right now Mercury is opposing retrograde Uranus in Taurus and will be for much of the retrograde period, “what lives in the dark must come to the light” comes to mind when interpreting this. Mercury’s trine with retrograde Neptune in Pisces will make it easier to expose the grand illusion and clear up some of the fog we’ve been left in, an excellent aspect for journalists and writers to find truth and depth in the stories they want to tell. Mercury’s sextile with the Capricorn conjunct (Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto) and Venus in Virgo will be telling as we re-evaluate our relationship with the world around us, there will be a lot to take in related to these things but the information will help you make the changes you need.
Expect to see secrets exposed and to learn more about what goes on beneath the surface of where it is that Mercury is traveling in your chart. Now more than ever it’s important to look beyond the surface, if you’ve been meaning to do a deep dive into the underbelly of how something works now is your chance, if not then expect a ton of over-the-top news and scandals to pop up.
Transits
Mercury in the 1st house: This retrograde will help you deep dive and re-evaluate yourself. This is a great time to get to the root of your self image and how it affects your relationships with others. While it’s opposing Uranus in the 7th house it will be easier to form new partnerships around a part of your identity you’ve been wanting to express for some time now, but there is a risk of suddenly getting the attention of some haters. My advice; avoid gossipy crowds and be mindful of what you say or share. With Mars (Scorpio’s ruler) in Aries facing an aggressive T-square with the Sun and the Capricorn conjunct, they out for blood.
Mercury in the 2nd house: There may come a time during this retrograde where you need to re-evaluate your investments and how you’ve been making income. Opposite Uranus in the 8th may be making or breaking your bank account right now, so use this retrograde to adjust your materials and your coin spending accordingly. Be extra careful of impulse buying right now, and if you find yourself running out of space to put your things maybe donate what you don't need. It’s not a good idea to make any big long-term investments right now but it is a good time to perfect your hustle.
Mercury in the 3rd house: This is my transit and I just had to drop a bunch of money to get my car fixed >.< That being said, this is the transit of broken phone screens, delayed messages, and complications with travel and your vehicle (DO NOT ignore that check engine light). With opposite Uranus in the 9th you may get overwhelmed with education and new information during this transit, and by the end you may start feeling like Eviline, cuz you won’t want nobody to bring you no bad news. Be careful of those nosey neighbors and try not to get into spats with your siblings or cousins if you can afford it. Online arguments will be especially frustrating now.
Mercury in the 4th house: Familial secrets may start coming to the surface, exposing some skeletons behind your public image. Shadow work will be really important during this transit because you’ll likely be forced to confront and break some family curses. For those who worship the ancestors this is the perfect time to divine with them and ask them for guidance. With opposite Uranus in the 10th house, you’re also likely to run into sudden changes in your work life or may have to make a change in how you work to accommodate for the needs of home.
Mercury in the 5th house: If you still find joy in your hobbies and forms of entertainment then this’ll be a fun transit that’ll allow you to sharpen your skills and nerd out with others. However some of you going through this transit are starting to realize that what once bought you joy is starting to become a burdensome. During this time you may be more open to trying new things, perhaps even tapping into spirituality or engaging in dark mysteries and conspiracies. Opposite Uranus in the 11th suggests there being a chance of finding new networks to enjoy your interests with. Be careful with misinformation though, not every rabbit hole leads to a good place.
Mercury in the 6th house: Pay close attention to your mind and body this retrograde. There’s an emphasis on soothing a pain this time around, especially paired with Uranus in the 12th house of isolation and psyche. Flair ups and random aches may manifest now, but because Mercury is fast moving and quick to change this too shall pass. Self care and adjusting routines is what's important right now.
Mercury in the 7th house: This retrograde is going to force you to re-evaluate your close relationships and commitments. If there’s something that you and another person have been sweeping under the rug then Mercury is going to force you to finally acknowledge the elephant in the room. With opposite Uranus in the 1st house you’re probably going through an intense personal change right now, so Mercury is here to help you adjust to how you now relate to others and purge old commitments that no longer align with who you are.
Mercury in the 8th house: Scorpio’s Mercury retrograde can actually do a lot of good here since this energy can help you dig deep and tap into resources from others and help you connect with your shadow. Though there is a catch, you may be extra clumsy handling other people’s posessions so it’s important don’t take on more than you know you can handle. With opposite Uranus in the 2nd tighten up your security because this transit can cause a sudden loss of stuff and Mercury in mythology is also lord of thieves.
Mercury in the 9th house: A particularly challenging transit for students, teachers, and clergy folk. This transit may cause you to re-evaluate your method of teaching and/or your academic/philosophical pursuits. For everyone else this transit may push you to change your mind and adjust your values based on new information found from opposing Uranus in the 3rd. The result of this transit can go one or two ways, either you’ll find it easier to enlighten yourself and then pass it on to others or you’ll find yourself fighting about an unpopular stance.
Mercury in the 10th house: If you’ve been feeling miserable in your workplace or feel like you’re exhausted being seen as person most people think you are, this transit is going to help you confront the issue and make a change. Opposite Uranus in the 4th’s influence is making you realize you can’t hide from your past and how much your home and familial ties affects how you interact with the world. A sudden change in family/home dynamics is probably making you to re-evaluate the roles you play and what adjustments are needed to better fulfill them.
Mercury in the 11th house: I’m not gonna lie this one looks rough af, but it won’t be all bad! For some, this transit is going to reveal who the snakes around you are and what systems have been holding you back this whole time. For others, you’re about to get a rude awakening about what it is that's hurting your connections with others and what you need to do to make a change and heal them (or cut ties all together. Idk, it’s your transit). In both scenarios, opposite Uranus in the 5th is likely in the process of helping you find new hobbies and experiences that could help bring joy. As you find new ways of channeling your will and vision this allows Mercury to help you discover new friends and communities
Mercury in the 12th house: This retrograde may be a very isolating one for most of you. There’s something deep in your psyche that needs to be acknowledged or a deep psychological change that you’ve gone through recently, but the 12th house is the spot in our charts that’s most difficult to reach since it’s the non-tangible space just below the horizon. Uranus sitting in your 6th house gives me online meet-ups, check-ins, therapists, and doctor visit vibes, but it can also manifest a friend or partner coming into your life to break you out of your rut and help you tap into the repressed part of you that’s hard for you to reach on your own. Utilize them during this time, but be aware that not everyone whose nice to you has your best interest at heart and just because you’re feeling isolated doesn’t mean you should welcome just anyone in. Keep in mind that the 12th house also rules hidden enemies and agendas and sure enough they too will be exposed in due time.
#I know this is kinda late ADHD is a bitch#astrology#mercury retrograde#mercury houses#houses#current transits
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Adora might be autistic too
Alright, most people in the SPOP fandom agree that Entrapta is autistic, as her coding is extremely obvious. However, some of us also believe that our beloved protagonist Adora is on the spectrum as well. She comes off as quite the aspie, and while Asperger’s is no longer a diagnosis in the DSM-V (but is in other manuals), it falls under the blanket diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and its diagnostic criteria is still useful in analyzing people for signs of the disorder. In analyzing Adora’s character I will refer somewhat to both disorders, with the understanding that Asperger’s is a specific manifestation of ASD.
I would like to preface this by saying this is a headcanon and people are free to disagree with me. Some of these characteristics I’m going to bring up could also manifest because of her very sheltered upbringing in a cult-like atmosphere or mental illnesses such as anxiety and complex PTSD (both of which she arguably has). I am autistic myself, so obviously I am inclined to interpret these symptoms this way, but to each their own. It’s also worth noting that Adora has a lot of symptoms that cross over with AD(H)D, a cousin disorder to ASD, and it’s totally possible she has both.
In any case, there is now enough evidence hinting at Adora’s neurodivergence (especially now that the Rebel Princess Guide has been released) that I feel the need to explain this theory in detail instead of just occasionally mentioning it. So here goes...
She’s naive/easily manipulated
This one doesn’t really need explaining, we’ve all seen it. Adora assumes people are telling the truth because why would anyone lie to her? That is such a relatable spectrum feel. She was handily brainwashed by Shadow Weaver in the Horde, while some of the others didn’t seem to swallow the propaganda so easily. This is of course partly because of the special attention and affection Adora got from Shadow Weaver, but she had to be vulnerable to manipulation in the first place for it to work.
Later, she trusts Huntara easily in the Crimson Waste despite Bow and Glimmer’s warnings about her questionable character. Adora happily follows her into a trap even once Bow and Glimmer tell her they're going the wrong way, reasoning it’s probably a shortcut rather than reevaluating her misplaced trust. This can be partly explained by how she‘s gay af for Huntara, but still.
(Interestingly, the episode cuts straight from this moment to the obviously autistic Entrapta going against her own friend's advice and refusing to give up on the portal machine despite the obvious warning sign of Hordak’s violent dismissal. Parallels, much?)
Her difficulty understanding other points of view
A lot of Adora’s conflict with Catra is predicated on misunderstandings, and she has a hard time understanding the effects her actions have on other people, Catra in particular. For instance, she misunderstands Catra talking about ruling the Horde together as being purely about power, while Catra’s actual goals are safety and Adora’s companionship. That miscommunication is not just Adora’s fault, but it illustrates that she has difficulty understanding other people’s needs and motives without being explicitly told.
This isn’t just a problem with Catra, either. In general Adora has a difficult time understanding other’s motives and feelings. For instance, she doesn’t understand Glimmer’s insecurity over Bow’s friendship with Perfuma at Princess Prom, and she can’t fathom why Entrapta would choose to work for an evil faction, going so far as to assume she must have been brainwashed into it. This is because, just like with Catra, she doesn’t understand that some people’s priorities are not the same as hers.
Autistic kids tend to reach developmental milestones at different times than neurotypicals, sometimes being way ahead and other times falling behind. One such marker that is usually slower to develop and often stays impaired is theory of mind, our ability to a) understand that other people have different perspectives and b) understand those perspectives. Adora’s difficulties being able to put herself in someone else’s shoes definitely lines up with this symptom.
She’s clumsy
For someone so athletic, Adora sure lacks coordination. This is a commonly cited symptom of people with Asperger’s, though it shows up in people with other forms of ASD too. In general, autistic people often have difficulty with fine and/or gross motor skills, and this can lead to being accident and injury prone. According to Catra in 3x05, Adora bumps her head a lot. That may have just been a callback to 1x01, but either way clumsiness has been part of her characterization since the beginning, one of her many loveable, adorkable qualities.
Her lack of social and self awareness
Adora can be painfully oblivious to her own inappropriate behavior. There’s several examples of this throughout the series, one of the more costly ones coming at Princess Prom. Shocked by Frosta’s youth, Adora fails to register how maybe this (in front of Frosta, with all eyes on her) is not the time to remark on it. She immediately realizes this was the wrong thing to say (or at least not something she should shout), but that small delay causes both her and Glimmer a lot of embarrassment.
Part of the issue here is that she loses control of her volume, which in itself is a common problem for those of us on the spectrum. This isn’t the only time we see her have this problem, either, and it’s amplified (tee hee) when she’s drunk/infected.
More generally, one of the funniest examples of Adora’s poor social awareness comes when she barges into Huntara’s flirtation with the bartender in the Crimson Waste. She’s so focused on her task of recruiting Huntara that it doesn’t even occur to her that this is an intimate moment and intruding would be rude.
In the Rebel Princess Guide Adora also says she wishes Queen Angella would let her make some adjustments to the uniforms of the Bright Moon guards, which implies she tried to make these suggestions already. Maybe she figured She-Ra could suggest anything, but as both a newcomer and a royal subject that’s a bit of a faux pas. Chances are, that went right over Adora’s head.
She can’t read a room to save her life (literally)
This is another, more specific aspect of social awareness. Adora has difficulty picking up on the implicit rules (social norms) when she enters unfamiliar situations, and has a tendency to step on toes because of it. She also doesn’t understand when her friends try to nonverbally communicate what she’s doing wrong, and nonverbal communication deficits and problems with social awareness and insight are two major symptoms of ASD. One specifically listed example is “difficulties adjusting behavior to suit social contexts”, including:
Lack of response to contextual cues (e.g. social cues from others indicating a change in behavior is implicitly requested)
Unaware of social conventions/appropriate social behavior; asks socially inappropriate questions or makes socially inappropriate statements
Here’s a couple specific example of times where Adora misses or misunderstands nonverbal cues to change her behavior:
At her first Rebellion meeting she doesn’t realize that maybe she shouldn’t sit in the special-looking chair, and doesn’t clue in that that’s why everyone is freaking out.
In the Crimson Waste, Glimmer responds to the growling bar patrons surrounding them by suggesting that maybe these aren’t the kind of people they should be asking for help, but Adora persists. She jumps up on the bar and makes a speech trying to get directions (which is socially inappropriate for the context as well as dangerous), somehow missing all the scowls from the patrons as well as Bow and Glimmer’s wild gesturing.
Panic over unfamiliar social situations
Adora’s anxiety about going to Princess Prom could be attributed to many things, not just a spectrum disorder. Her obvious anxiety, for one, though to be fair there’s a high comorbidity between the two disorders. In any case, it seems the unfamiliarity of the situation is a sticking point for Adora in particular, while Bow and Glimmer are nothing but excited for their first ball.
Adora’s anxiety seems to stem mostly from being overwhelmed by the prospect of entering a new social situation with a whole bunch of unfamiliar rules to remember. She’s still learning behavioral norms outside of the Horde, and this is a huge jump up in terms of difficulty for her fledgling social skills.
To cope with her stress she goes overboard trying to prepare by making a conspiracy board of sorts, flash cards, and an obstacle course. And at the ball itself, it seems like she’s even rehearsed how to behave.
This probably isn’t only relatable to autistics, but it’s very relatable to us. Creating and rehearsing behavioral scripts is a common strategy to avoid embarrassing ourselves in public. Unfortunately, as we saw above, this works for about five seconds before Adora botches the whole thing by commenting on Frosta’s age.
Extreme stress over details
In general, Adora is a very anxious, perfectionistic person who hyperfixates on details, a very autistic trait. As mentioned above, this is wonderfully illustrated by her overpreparation for Princess Prom. She’s broken down the overwhelming list of rules in the invite into categories to make it more manageable, gone into detail categorizing people’s relationships to each other, and learned trivia about the guests in order to feel more prepared. Yet, somehow she missed the important fact that the hostess is only eleven years old.
Unfortunately this hangup doen’t only affect her, but also her friends and allies. The overarching theme in “Roll With It” is how debilitating Adora’s anxiety and perfectionism can be. Her eye for detail and ability to see flaws in plans is actually very valuable, but she gets so hung up on every possible thing that could go wrong that she can’t accept imperfect solutions with calculated risks.
Her propensity to be overwhelmed by too much information (like with the Princess Prom invite) shows up here too. Adora grows more and more frustrated and overwhelmed as more princesses join the planning session, adding more variables to deal with and more people to manage. She begins lashing out and shooting down every possible solution that doesn’t satisfy her need for perfection immediately. Her behavior looks like it may be headed for a meltdown until it culminates in an epic rant revealing all her anxiety and how it ties into her insecurities about her own imperfection.
Thankfully her friends are able to reassure her that she has support and doesn’t have to be perfect, but it’s an ongoing battle, one we already saw her struggle with in “Flowers for She-Ra” and “The Battle of Bright Moon”. It’s a strong tenet of Adora’s personality that is proving difficult to shake.
What she misses about the Horde
The recently published Rebel Princess Guide contains a list by Adora of things she misses about the Horde, and this list screams neurodivergent. I’ll go through it point by point, since there’s a lot to unpack here.
THINGS I MISS ABOUT THE HORDE
1. I miss the rigid schedule. It never changed, and I always knew what to expect.
Ritualistic behavior and an insistence on sameness are often seen in individuals with ASD. In fact, it’s a major symptom. Many of us have diifficulty adjusting to changing schedules, changes in diet, or even minor changes in our environment (such as placement of objects, boy do I have stories there). We need warning when things are going to change, and even if we know it’s coming it’s still a struggle to adjust.
2. I miss the constant sound of machines and whirring. In Bright Moon, there’s always music playing, or people laughing, and birds singing. It’s nice but it makes it hard to focus!
Autistic brains process sensory information differently from neurotypicals, that’s basically our disorder at its core. Over or under reactions to sensory input are common and in fact considered a major symptom, and this entry of Adora’s specifically refers to difficulties with sensory filtering. We have a hard time filtering out information that’s irrelevant to our current task, which makes us easily distractable.
3. Believe it or not, I miss my hard cot in the barracks. My bed in the castle is way too soft!
This ties into both the insistence on sameness and sensory issues.
4. Catra… sometimes.
This isn’t autistic, it’s just gay.
Speaking of which...
She’s gay
Adora's relationship with Catra has always been queer-coded, but any doubts about her sexuality were dispelled in season 3 by the way she fawns over Huntara like a baby gay over her gym teacher. Her obvious queerness might seem unrelated to the topic of autism, but those of us within the community can attest there’s probably just as many queer people among us as there are cishets. It’s so notable that there has been quite a bit of scientific research confirming people with ASD are more likely to be LGBT and gender atypical and exploring the cause of this link.
(This needs no proving at this point, but enjoy these gifs anyway...)
In conclusion
Overall, there’s a lot of hints and circumstantial evidence suggesting Adora could have ASD. Was this the creators’ intent? Hard to say. Adora is the protagonist and one of the most developed characters, so she’s definitely not a cardboard cutout or checklist for ASD symptoms (compare that to Entrapta, a secondary character whose behaviors can often easily be attributed to autism). It’s totally possible the creators just characterized her as naive and awkward and obsessive without realizing the implications of that cluster of traits together.
Regardless of authorial intent, it’s perfectly valid to look at Adora and see representation of the ASD community. The groundwork is there. And if someone else looks and doesn’t see it, or sees something else causing this behavior, that is also fair. No one is forcing anyone to accept this headcanon (or at least they shouldn’t be), but in return please don’t disparage it. Even if she is not autistic Adora is definitely autistic-coded, and we could use some more heros with the disorder, given how we’re mostly relegated to being villains and anti-heroes (not that there’s anything wrong with us filling those roles sometimes, but a little variety would be nice).
Adora is often referred to as a dumbass, but she’s actually quite intelligent, just sometimes slow to understand how she should act and how people feel. Still, she tries her hardest, just as she does with everything else. Adora is heroic and compassionate, even if she sometimes struggles to understand others. When autistic-coded characters are so commonly portrayed as cold and unforgiving, Adora is a sorely needed exception.
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all the babs! ❤️ (i kno u kno but it’s diana lmao)
we love the angst hehe 🥰
Dove & Adrian
who is more likely to get injured doing small tasks: probably dove because i feel like adrian is decently handy??
who worries more about the other: they both worry so much omg dove worries a lot but i think adrian worries more especially about her and her mom 😭
who is more afraid about the other leaving them: dove since adrian did leave after the thing and is now trying to make it up to her
who is more likely to leave (for any reason): adrian 😭
who is more likely to drunkenly confess: adrian
who is more likely to push the other away (for any reason): i think they both do this but i’m gonna say dove since she’ll probably try to push him away after the mom thing happens and maybe when she realizes there’s a lil beb 👀
who picks fights more often: they don’t really fight but maybe adrian because he doesn’t think he’s good enough for her??
who usually apologizes first: adrian because he hates seeing her sad
who is more likely to withhold their feelings for the other: they’re very much in LOVE but prior to that it was adrian
who is more likely to lash out at the other: they both are pretty hot headed but probably dove
who gets more jealous: and they also both get jealous LOL but adrian since he literally beat someone up
who is more likely to support the other in a relationship with someone else “as long as they’re happy”: neither of them would let the other go hahaha but i’m thinking adrian since he just wants dove to be happy
Sophie & Milo
who is more likely to get injured doing small tasks: oh god both of them hahaha they are both so clumsy that’s literally a disaster waiting to happen
who worries more about the other: sophie
who is more afraid about the other leaving them: milo more but soph also since she thinks it’s all too good to be true
who is more likely to leave (for any reason): ughhh wow this would be so sad but i’m gonna say soph
who is more likely to drunkenly confess: they literally know everything about each other so i’m not sure what they would confess. also if something did happen i don’t think they could keep a secret from each other but maybe milo would need some liquid courage
who is more likely to push the other away (for any reason): milo
who picks fights more often: hmmm when they fight no one really starts it it just happens. but i’d say probably soph since she always wants to talk about stuff and he just doesn’t lmao
who usually apologizes first: both of them apologize pretty quickly but milo is usually the one that needs to lol
who is more likely to withhold their feelings for the other: neither because they are SO in love. but i guess i’d say milo since soph said i love you first even tho he was already feeling it
who is more likely to lash out at the other: milo
who gets more jealous: milo more but soph also does she just keeps it in
who is more likely to support the other in a relationship with someone else “as long as they’re happy”: UGH milo would and soph is literally screaming “i want you!!!”
Grace & Liam
who is more likely to get injured doing small tasks: tbh liam because he’s a scardy cat
who worries more about the other: hmmm liam worries more
who is more afraid about the other leaving them: probably grace given how they started
who is more likely to leave (for any reason): oooh i really don’t know!! maybe liam because it’s music-related??
who is more likely to drunkenly confess: they both need liquid courage to deal with their feelings hahaha but i’m gonna say grace
who is more likely to push the other away (for any reason): grace
who picks fights more often: probably grace but girl has every right to since liam has no clue what tf he wants
who usually apologizes first: liam bc he fucks up more lol
who is more likely to withhold their feelings for the other: grace because she’s scared of getting hurt
who is more likely to lash out at the other: grace
who gets more jealous: they’re both jealous AF but liam gets jealous more
who is more likely to support the other in a relationship with someone else “as long as they’re happy”: they both would but i’m gonna say grace bc of her insecurities 😭
Madison & Wyatt
who is more likely to get injured doing small tasks: madison since wyatt showed off his handy man skills
who worries more about the other: maddie x1000 worries more. like no question
who is more afraid about the other leaving them: madison
who is more likely to leave (for any reason): this is a tough one bc i could see them both leaving for different reasons UGH but i think madison is more likely to leave but would want wyatt to stop her but he doesn’t because he thinks she wants to leave 🙃 i could see her leaving if they talk about their future and it doesn’t go quite how she hopes or something
who is more likely to drunkenly confess: wyatt
who is more likely to push the other away (for any reason): wyatt
who picks fights more often: maddie because wyatt never says what he’s feeling so she has to pull it out of him
who usually apologizes first: they don’t really apologize they just make up lmao but wyatt did apologize this last time!!
who is more likely to withhold their feelings for the other: wyatt
who is more likely to lash out at the other: they both very much so know how to push each other’s buttons
who gets more jealous: maddie def gets jealous and it’s more obvious but i feel like if anyone tried something on maddie wyatt would lose his shit
who is more likely to support the other in a relationship with someone else “as long as they’re happy”: wyatt 😭
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Skam España - Season 2 - Episode 1, Clip 6: Las amistades peligrosas
Hey you! Finally, we’re finishing the first episode! If you don’t know what I’m talking about, go check this post; here you go for the first clip and here for the last I posted, the fifth clip.
Well, let’s go for a 7 minutes clip (prepare yourself a lot of time, it’s going to be long, but like LONG).
Hi everyone! Today we’re here for a new tutorial: “How to prepare yourself for a date with your crush?”. I’m sorry, but the music and the fact that it almost takes 30 seconds of the clip is clearly here to take it with humor, and tbh, I live for this shit.
“Nah.”
What I love is that it’s so accurate. For example, we all screamed to our mother to not go open the door for the person ringing (what I mean is that it’s great because the viewer can immediately relate to Cris).
Another touch of humor, we discover she tried, like, A LOT of sweater. I mean, at this point I can’t say anything but that I love Cris. (Oh, and poor teddy bear who doesn’t know his fate yet.)
“Breathe, you’re great.”
The music stopping and coming back and stopping again when the door closes, the teddy bear and this face. You don’t know how much I’ve laughed with this clip; everything is meant to be funny.
“Now is the moment of your life.” god this song xD
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Look at her breathe out again, I love her (and wow, this door is... dark).
Yep, you’re right my dudes, she checks her out.
No but more seriously, look how chill she seems. The chin is high, hands in the pocket, her shoulders are opened, and I mean, this look (+little bonus for the left raised eyebrow), 100% confident; BUT I can’t help myself thinking that she must be freaking out internally (we can notice the movements (swings maybe?) she does with her body, most of the time, we let out our “anxiety”, our stress with these kind of gesture, so yeah).
“Hello, I’m awkwardness! I’m the one who makes you pose as a dummy. I’m sure you’ll love me!”
“OMG THE LOVE OF MY LIFE IS A DUMBASS, AND SHE IS CLUMSY AND AWKWARD AS FUCK, MARRY ME ALREADY!” (I’m sorry, sometimes I think I’m funny even if I know I’m not.)
“I hate myself.” (relatable btw)
Everything in this clip is brilliant. It’s such a funny way to show something real and still be accurate. I’m sure we all had the opportunity to see ourselves in Cris at the moment, this clumsiness/awkwardness; I’m sorry but I’m a gay mess like Cris, I’m just happy to have my representation. (Oh, and the little “vale” from Joana is cute af, it’s not awkward or anything, it’s perfectly in character: confident but reassuring)
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Okay so… the next sequence is like… we’re going to have a lot, but when I say a lot, I mean A LOT of things to say, because these two are a fucking goldmine. What I’m trying to tell you is that we’re here for a loooong time together (but I’m sure deep down you like it).
Cris being like “Okay, does she like my room? How does she react?”
Btw, her room is like, wow. They really did a good job with the decoration. Yes, I know, we all saw it, the “LIPS”; “KISS”, I know. Oh, and I love her laptop. I’m sure I can’t see a lot of references but, yeah, we already have too much to say x)
I love how Joana is looking at the entire room. Joana is me. I already said it in other clips, but Joana “sees” thing, she is observant (to me it’s a quality).
I’m so bad at catching it, but Cris’s reaction at the length of the film kills me. Plus, am I the only one laughing so hard as she tries to do small talk? xD (which btw doesn’t work at all because Joana doesn’t complain about the film)
Joana, a complation: Confused Joana – “Meh” Joana – Shocked Joana.
God… This face kills me. More seriously, at the moment, they really aren’t on the same wavelength. Cris complains about the film, when Joana just says she likes it. Cris’ all reaction is really interesting. It’s like the “typical” teenage reaction in front of a school work, but at the moment, there’s also this need to just- say something; because she’s like this, she’s the one who talks for the sake of talking. She talks without really thinking about it; but let’s keep this for later okay? (Oh, and yes, Joana’s gaze, but it’s going to be like that in the rest of the clip so…)
Some teasing. I like that. There really is a chemestry between these two that I love. I like how Joana is like “Oh I see, she’s going that way” and Cris is completely in character and is just “pitching into” her, in a way? (trying to translate a french thought in english is a disaster, believe me).
Thank god, I like to see some repartee. It’s so fluid, you need to remember that they know each other for literally, 2 DAYS, and we already have this kind of complicity. Brilliant.
Look at these happy girls.
I don’t know how to interpret the fact of Joana’s smile slowly fading and then her gaze quickly going back to the laptop, as if she was realizing something or I don’t know. It’s impossible to catch it in pictures, but just look at her after the joke. Plus it’s hard to interpret it because we have a “jump cut”:
We see her smiling and looking at Cris. So… I don’t want to misinterpret things so I’m just going to shut up and continue. Even if maybe (and I say maybe because the rest of the clip proves me wrong until the end), there’s Eloy and the fact that she knows she shouldn’t get to close from Cris even if she wants to.
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“Guys, you’re annoying, I’m on a date.”
More seriously, the filming is pretty nice; we have the camera moving from a shot where we have both of them to a shot with only Cris and her messages, maybe to show that she doesn’t pay attention at what is Joana doing anymore (which also means that the rest of the time she was indeed paying attention at every single movement of Joana).
To support my thoughts, when her mother interrupts them, we come back to a shot with the two girls; she isn’t “captivate” by the messages anymore.
Little bonus for the “please Mom don’t say something stupid, don’t ruin this” face.
I live for this shit.
Joana still being a meme + the iconic “My friend heard you” because it’s so fucking accurate (don’t lie, we all said it once + send some love to your mom btw, she deserves it, even if most of the time she embarrasses you).
Joana’s face be like “I was laughing, but I’m trying to not show it because I know it’s already awkward enough, so I’m just going to smile and be reassuring.”
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“Stay chill. Don’t panic. Don’t panic. Stay calm. Stay fucking calm. OMG is she really doing this? There’s so much tension. Send help. Please.”
I’m sorry but the “We’re good with what we have.” ? I don’t know if it’s the exact translation, but it’s so ambiguous. I love that.
“Don’t show anything. You’re not destabilised. Stay chill. WtF the TeNsiON. I’m FucKiNG DEstaBiLIsed.” + Joana clearly looking at how Cris is reacting, she’s such a tease (not in the bad way though, I’m not insulting her calm down). Yes, don’t worry, I didn’t forget. BOLD+1500.
Come on, just look how proud she is, while Cris is dying internally xD I’m dying too btw.
Some interesting body language though, the fact of Cris trying to get back her shit together by sitting straight and Joana having her chin really high and her shoulders open; it clearly shows who is at ease and who isn’t imo x) + (yes there’s a lot of things happening) Cris crossing her arms in front her is a way to “protect herself” (not from Joana, but from the overwhelming) and most importantly to “control” herself and kind of find a way to seem more confident or at least not affected.
Cris coming back with her small talk and Joana being like “Yeah, act as if nothing just happened, I saw you panicking anyway.” But more seriously, it’s interesting to see that Cris is a fucking mess. I mean, she tries her best to sound and appear confident, but FUCK she isn’t xD And btw, one of Cris’ most important characteristic is her joking all the time to get rid of every “problematic” situation (it’s not something bad, but I don’t think it’s good either, as we could see in the last clips).
Joana just laughing at Cris’ “joke” and not continuing the conversation is me in 90% of the interactions I have with people (but it’s not what’s important). The most important is that, in a way, it reinforces the fact that they still aren’t really on the same wavelenght, and I think Cris can feel it because of this little look:
It’s also clearly a moment (before this look) where Cris is trying to get back her composure + this little look is there to check if Joana is still in a “teasing mode” or not with her (I think); but tbh, I don’t feel a lot of awkwardness in all of this.
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Her phone saving her, just look how fast she grabs it xD (Nope, I didn’t miss Joana’s thing she always does with her nails/fingers, don’t worry.)
Yes guys, you’re used to it now, this is “worry”; not the BIG worry though, but the mouth dropping a little, the eyes openning, the movement backward. It’s not a lot, but it’s here.
“My crush or my friends?”
Joana, baby girl, it’s not really allowed to look at someone else’s phone/messages. She is so sneaky xD
But yes, a sweetheart.
(I don’t talk a lot about the movement both girls do with their legs, but, well no, I don’t want to say it’s “anxiety” because in the moment it’s not, but it’s still a way to let the “pressure” out, you know? I mean, we all do this kind of things unconsciously when we are with people, especially when we “like” them. Anyway.)
Joana smiling as she looks at the bowl (+shaking her head) because Cris just placed it between them is PRICELESS.
Btw, Cris not answering for a party is… wow? I mean, they didn’t place all of this in this clip for nothing. It allows them to show that Cris is maybe, yeah no, clearly interested by Joana. It just reinforces things.
Cris’ little glance at Joana (did I already say she’s clumsy? No? She’s so fucking clumsy and I love that).
Joana noticing the glance, but she doesn’t glance, no no no, she STARES guys and we’re here for this shit.
She notices Cris’ discomfort and embrassed smile, but keeps staring.
And then we have THIS; but this time, there’s nothing awkward, to me it’s just really cute. Oh, and of course, all this dynamic with their glances and stares shows even more that Joana is way more confident and at ease than Cris.
(I’m wondering if it’s really acting or just Tamara and Irene messing around, trying to hold a laugh and just being two dumbasses. Nah, I think they’re just amazing at representing simple things. Yes, I’m having a debate with myself, just keep reading!)
That’s cute.
Look at this proud and happy Cris. We’re finally seeing her a little more at ease, her chin is higher and her shoulders starts to open, because yeah, during the past 2 minutes (more or less) we have her shoulders really tensed and closed with her head really low, kind of forming a “protection” around her; but now yeah, she’s finally relaxed thanks to Joana being all the time so chill, smiley, not awkward and reassuring in her own way.
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2:50 of the clip and I already have 23 pages on my Word. We’re not even at the HALF of the clip, I’m already dying. Anyway, I already haven’t said a lot of things but everything is brilliant, so let’s continue and start having some real conversation between these two.
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FIRST. How did these two end up in this position? One of the other mysteries of Skam España.
A thought just like that, before this shot the movie was only a music, whereas here we have a conversation; maybe it’s showing that Cris finally pays attention too what is said (I don’t know).
(Little disclaimer, I never read “Les liaisons dangereuses” (because yeah, it’s French) but I tried to understand the story to be sure that I’m not missing too many things about what’s going to be said. Anyway.)
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Look at how Joana seems so interested by the movie, so “in it” (French thoughts sorry). Plus, I think it’s the first time we see it (it’s going to be recurrent later) but she plays with her necklace. It’s the first time they want us to notice that necklace btw. We know that the movie is about relationships, love, etc… and the particular moment they’re watching is important because it’s a “““break-up”””. I find it interesting to make her play with her necklace at this specific moment because it’s one of the first hints about BPD. She feels more affected than others by this kind of scenes.
And YES, Cris’ stare. Plus, we go from this shot to this shot:
Here we literally have Cris’ point of view, what she sees + this close shot gives something really intimate. I love it.
She can’t stop staring, that’s… wow.
Joana noticing the stare and looking up.
Cris looking back at the laptop. It’s not really an embarrassed smile though, there’s nothing awkward here. Yep, Joana looking at her lips.
Joana shaking her head in disbelief is the entire fandom in front of Cris being a gay mess. CRIS’ SMILE THOUGH. And yes, there’s NOTHING awkward, that’s super cute I’m dying.
“Is she really…?” (I love how the close shot, which represent intimacy, is thrown away and we come back to a larger shot when the mother interrupts the intimacy)
“Yes, she is…” + Joana being a cute adorable dork when she laughs + thank you for giving us some representation with our periods! (and yes, I’m not that surprised by this situation, my mom is literally the same.)
SO MUCH COMPLICITY I’M DYING. DO YOU HEAR ME?
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(yes, Cris is looking again at Joana, but come on I can’t put every gaze in picture xD) The famous “No puedo evitarlo”… Let’s be completely transparent; this whole clip is a HUGE foreshadowing for their entire relationship, and I’m here for it.
Cristina “seriously?” Soto Peña or Cristina “I’m judging you; a lot” Soto Peña, choose your fighter.
Disappointed Joana (+ a bit annoyed).
Btw, Cris dropping her opinion on the characters with no argument and just saying that he is a son of a bitch and that she is an idiot, is so much in character + “I would tell him to fuck off”, well darling… you won’t... and you will, in a way.
What I love about all of this, is that this clip is here to show what is Cris’ vision of love and relationships at the start of the season because they need a starting point to show how much she is going to grow through this season.
Still “not impress” Cris, and yes, another hint for Joana’s BPD (the fact of not being able to control the feelings, even if in this case, it touches everyone and it’s just Cris who doesn’t realize it. It’s hard to act coldly and we have here another characteristic for Cris and Joana, they’re different on this point, we have a more “mature and rational” Joana) + It’s really discreet, but Joana glances many times at Cris lips (yeah, that’s it).
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OUF. Disappointment. Again. It’s really hard to catch Joana’s “annoyance”, but her rolling her eyes at Cris’ joke is priceless. They really aren’t on the same wavelength (at least, for the movie, they really are at ease with each other, but not on their thoughts/belief). Oh, and Cris still joking about everything… (though, I think it’s just her way to “flirt” maybe) just let’s keep it for later.
“No, I’m serious” and we go from a wide shot to a close shot. Joana brings back some intimacy; the shot makes the viewer understand that it’s going to be important in the next seconds. Brilliant.
And oh wow… we never saw Joana like that before. The head is forward, the jaw is a little clenched (what I mean is that her mouth is “hold”, it’s not dropping), the gaze is straight ahead, the eyebrows are a little frown, and maybe the nostrils are a little wider (not sure) + the tone is- I wouldn’t say “harsh”, but there’s still some anger/annoyance behind it + the big annoyed sigh before she starts talking + the gestures/movements she does with her head to reinforce what she says, they are quick and short (btw, when she said “the count is a son of a bitch”, the movement with her head says no, she doesn’t agree with what she says, yes guys, the details, it shows a great acting too) + the “right?” to end her sentence. She’s confronting Cris, no jokes allowed; and tbh, I like that, I like this part of her character.
(Okay, maybe you’re right, having such a deep conversation about love at the first date is a little bold; bold+1502)
(Just look at when Joana sits up) she was smiling, and now we have… a destibalized Cris (yep, again). I like how she looks up, a little to the right, it means that she’s really thinking about it + yes, she’s clearly avoiding Joana’s gaze (it takes her 6 seconds to look back at her). Oh, and I LOVE how the camera is moving between their two faces. When Joana talks, she is in the shot because Cris is looking at her; when Cris is talking and NOT looking at Joana, we only see her on screen, but when she finally looks back at Joana we have this shot :
I already said it no? BRILLIANT.
Yep, Joana seems “calmer” (good job, you see, you’re making progress!); the eyebrows are a little raised, the mouth is slightly curved, and wow, she’s like, really listening to what Cris is saying, just look at her eyes, she’s so attentive.
Look at Joana slowly starting to smile again, we see you girl. Oh, and Cris thinking she’s bad and talking about her grades starts to show some insecurities, even if she’s joking about it + she’s right even if Joana doesn’t confirm it, there’s revenge in the story (and btw later in the season too, so much foreshadowing).
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I don’t know why, I just like this shot/scene in general. It’s intimate, they’re really listenning to each other (those gazes god…), and their conversation is pretty deep.
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Yep, looking again at her lips.
I love how they “exchanged” the shots, let me explain; now, when one of them is talking, we have the camera focused on the other, we literally see how they’re looking at each other and it means so many things: the most important isn’t their face anymore, it’s the words of the other, it’s how they’re touched by them; it’s deep because what we see on screen is Cris (okay), but it’s also Cris “seeing” herself react to Joana, how she feels about Joana’s words (you see? Yeah I know it’s really far from just looking at the body language, and maybe I’m completely misinterpreting, but it’s important). GOD I REALLY LOVE THIS SHOW BECAUSE IT’S BRILLIANT.
Oh, and on a more “down-to-earth” analysis, the frown shows that Cris is really focused, she’s attentive, even if her eyes and the curves of her mouth are more like “I’m not sure I’m following you.”
Guys, I’m not joking. Find someone who looks at you like that when you’re talking. This is beautiful.
God… on close shots like this, so many things are happening; when I said “goldmine” earlier, I wasn’t joking guys; I really invite you to do the same, just take the time to look at the details (if you noticed the little eyebrows relaxing, and then raising really quickly; and her mouth opening a little and also relaxing around the words “happy/love story”, I’m proud of you!)
“I don’t really agree with you, honey.” The raised but at the same time frowned eyebrows, and the little movement of her head shows “surprise”, or more like “um- wait.”
“But what kind of love is that?”, thank you Cris. Wow… finally we have Cris having a deep and serious talk. And I like her vision of love (because yes, she has one!); she doesn’t understand the point of suffering: “all the count does is make her suffer”; we have a really sweet and soft Cris here.
Lips again, it’s getting redundant baby girl + when the camera was moving from Cris to her, she was already looking at her lips.
Exactly the same face from earlier, still in the “confrontation”, but this time I also see a little more “disgust” maybe, or “disbelief” (the mouth is a little more opened and the eyes are wider) but in my head it means some kind of “are you serious?” but weaker (you know? God, I really don’t have the level to do this kind of things in English).
I don’t know how to interpret the return to this shot; but I think it’s because they want to include these two in the same shot because the “when you love someone, blah-blah…” will have a real meaning for both of them later in the season, because they will both suffer of the absence and of being ignored by the other. And YES, Joana queen of foreshadowing.
I’m not talking a lot about what is said, because I don’t really like this vision of love. I know that suffering is a part of it (but it’s not love which makes you suffer, it’s how you deal with it) and that Las amistades peligrosas have a really “complicated love story”, but to me, it’s clearly not healthy. Maybe it’s love, but not the “good kind” of love, you know? Also, OF COURSE, it’s a new hint for Joana’s BPD; they suffer way more than others when it comes to not being able to spend time with people they love + all this conversation shows “something new” about Joana; I mean, it seems that she way more experienced than Cris about relationships, etc.
(Yep, Cris is a little taken aback by the “and?”)
To me, Joana’s face means some kind of “You really don’t understand what we’re talking about, don’t you?” (but soft). It’s like she’s trying to find something on Cris’ face or in her gaze (it’s really a feeling I have, I don’t know why? what? how? I just follow it and I don’t think I can interpret it; I only can notice it and share it with you).
Lips, AGAIN (and yes, her head is leaning forward). And this time, yeah, Cris was staring at her eyes she can’t have missed it; and guess what?
“Let’s look away and try to talk about something else” (yes, you’re good, you noticed that Cris’ mouth is way more opened, congrats! A little before she moves her gaze, you can see it slowly opening, even maybe her chin “trembling” but it’s really discreet).
(Do you realize that that there are so many things happening each second?) When Cris starts talking, Joana’s chin quickly rises, kind of a “come back to reality” – LIPS. AGAIN. – “What is she talking about?”.
Okay, that’s cute.
But with this joke, we come back to a wider plan; the intimacy and depth are gone.
Wait, I just realized this now but, look at their legs, they are SO close, omg.
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“Oh, maybe I was wrong, my future wife is brilliant.”
Again guys, find someone who looks at you like that when you’re talking + this “Sí”; I’m dying + on the shot before Joana looks at her lips (it’s not surprising anymore) + just look how attentive she is, it’s really cute + yes, we’re back with the “intimate shot”, and the fact that we see the reaction of one girl when the other is talking.
“Excuse me, what?”
Look at her, she is so unconfident about everything she says, she can’t believe Joana likes her idea.
Yep, we’re back with that. “I said it just to say something”, one of Cris’ most important caracteristic. She thinks what she says isn’t important, or serious. Joana is, right here, the only one who takes what she says seriously. We thought that Cris is someone really confident and everything, but with this first episode we already have A LOT of hints showing that she maybe doesn’t have a that strong self-esteem as we thought, and this is a really important point.
Joana, queen of reassurance.
Can she be cuter? Come on, that’s amazing she’s so proud of herself, thanks to Joana. They already have so much “power”/effect on each other. 2 DAYS GUYS, 2 DAYS. And, yes, close shot again, we keep jumping between intimacy and “normality”, it becomes more and more fluid and natural between these two (I love this show so fucking much).
“Vale”- “Vale”; just go dig my grave.
Happy girl.
And OMG we’re playing again with the shots, Joana is looking at Cris and then we have this:
And then the camera isn’t moving anymore, we only have cuts to show each girl, the rhythm is a little faster.
Lips + LIPS guys, no subtlety anymore xD
“OMFG iT’s HApPeNiNG!”
No but more seriously, I can’t catch the reaction in one picture; but the mouth and the smile dropping in the blink of an eye + her eyes widening + her body slowly going backward and raising a little.
The funniest is that we don’t see Joana at the moment, we only see Cris’ reaction and it only gives more “suspense”. This is BRILLIANT.
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The camera moving with Joana, WHILE she looks at Cris’ eyes + Her gaze shifting between her eyes and her lips + Cris being completely somewhere else, trying to look away; she doesn’t process at all what’s happening.
This is cute, but at the same time I can’t help but laugh and I don’t know why xD (it’s not awkward though). Yes btw, bold+1550.
THIS. It doesn’t last long, but wow… There is so much intensity; and at the same time, it shows so many things about how they both feel. Cris is completely lost, her mouth, her jaw and her eyes, she has no control of it (wide eyes, mouth a little open; you can see this expression even more before the eye contact, because there Cris already had a little movement with her chin, kind of realizing what’s happening) + she doesn’t move at all.
At the opposite, we have a “determined” Joana, she knows what she’s doing; I mean, everything is in her gaze + the mouth and the jaw, she has a total control of it + well, she is leaning, like LEANING forward; and we stan.
This is cute; these little smiles, it takes all the rest of the awkwardness away (and there wasn’t a lot left).
It’s hard to describe everything, so I’m giving you some leads: Joana doesn’t have a lot of things to say here, her face isn’t moving a lot, everything is in her eyes, and of course some movements with her lips. On the other hand, Cris is WOW; her eyes shifting all the time and her mouth are SO EXPRESSIVE; take your time to look at everything, because in what? 5 seconds, there’s a lot.
(I’m wondering if the smile is maybe more Irene than Cris, because it quickly goes back to something a little more “apprehensive”; just a thought like that, no real analysis just a feeling.)
This last gaze… at this point I just let myself be carried by so much intimacy and tension.
Just a quick remark, it’s not a secret but Joana is so much more at ease, because Cris really can’t “stabilize” her gaze and keep the stare as Joana does.
And yep, we’re back to the same situation than in the second clip. We have Cris who immediately breaks the connection, while Joana stays in it. In any case, I don’t know if she really was ready for a kiss (let’s wait 3 long weeks now xD).
When I first watched this clip, I wasn’t really surprised by the mom coming; I mean, they didn’t make her interrupt them multiple times for nothing.
Oh, and bold+1600 just for remaining so chill and keeping this little smirk during all the “leaning forward” thing.
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“For fuck sake.”
We stan a queen rolling her eyes 24/7 – We’re used to it now guys, worry, again. Her face is really like “No come on, don’t tell me you’re leaving.”; that’s cute.
(Okay, quick remark again with the shot, we have Cris’ pov who’s looking at Joana, blahblah, you understood.) A lot of people think “Now we know it, it’s Eloy texting her, she knows she almost fucked up and she’s just fleeing”; and I’m not so sure about that. First, yes of course, worry and annoyance: the worry is here with the openned mouth just before and the huge breath she takes, and annoyance, with the loud sigh, the thing with her lips, her eyes and the cold “I have to go”. Here is my opinion: if it really was Eloy, that she was supposed to meet him for exemple, why would she had asked Cris to watch the movie, perfectly knowing the length of it? No, I think it’s maybe her parents asking where she is, because maybe she hasn’t told them she was out because her reaction is close to a “I’m screwed” + a quick reaction and decision like that, I think hints again for BPD (when I say hints it’s stupid because it’s just her reacting to the world around her, but I think you understand what I mean).
Cris being so desperate: “Already?”; “Um, shouldn’t we finish the movie?”; it’s cute though, she doesn’t want her to leave, but damn it’s so clumsy xD
New aspect of Joana, she is a little destabilized and we don’t have her usual confidence. She is really avoidant with a quick, low, and weak “yes”; she is already grabbing her jacket, kind of fleeing Cris. A messy excuse “I’ve already seen it” (why are you here then? xD I mean, I know it’s not a lie because there’s a chat about it, but it just makes me laugh) + her voice is “different” you know? Yeah, really, we have a completely other Joana here.
“Fuck.”
“I’ll walk you out”, Cris really tries xD
And damn we really have Joana “pushing her away”; it’s like in the blink of an eye, she completely changed even if she’s really polite and everything, and it’s brilliant
+ Here (pictures) we have Joana with the joke and this cute smile which gives her back some confidence - but then we have the other gaze with all the “composure” she tries to keep fading again.
Some hope with the “Well, I’ll see you on Monday, right?” + You even can see (before the picture) on Cris’ agreement, we have a smile forming and she seems so relieved, that’s cute (an yes, close shot on Joana, so Cris’ pov).
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Fuck, those pupils.
Cris’ emotional journey be like:
“What the hell just happened?” – Queen of eyes rolling (god, this sigh).
“It’s so unfair!” (her eyes shifting everywhere, kind of processing the situation) – The most interesting face, because I’m not sure how to interpret it. I hesitate between two things: a movement to bite her lips or cheeks or whatever; OR it’s a “common” movement, we do this kind of thing when we’re speechless, when we want to talk but nothing comes out, as if our mouth follows our thoughts but our throat doesn’t; it helps us to regain our composure in away (+ there’s so much frustration; again, all of this is here to add some humor).
We have a movement backward, to breathe a little, to let things out; and just look at this adorable gay mess, she’s so cute + “Well… at least we spent some time together, it’s not that bad…” – “Fuck, of course that’s bad! I hate my life.” + Cris closing her eyes as the ending screen comes, come on, stop being so on top…
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Bold score: 1600 (congrats Mrs. Bianchi).
What I love with this clip is that it tells us what’s going to happen (they’re going to have the “No puedo evitarlo” and the “don’t you love me?”; they’re going to suffer; Cris will go through all the stages of what she calls “idiot” here). It just allows us to have a starting point for Cris and Joana’s growth through the season; and this is brilliant. And yes, we are fucking clowns.
Anyway, we finally finished this first episode! It was long, but so interesting to do. We already have so much information about Cris and Joana, that’s brilliant. Again, a quick reminder, I don’t pretend to be an expert or whatever, I just share with you my thoughts, and of course there must be a lot of mistakes and I’m sure I forgot a lot of things.
I’m going to take a little break with Skam España, which means that the next analyses won’t come soon, and I’m pretty sure I won’t do all the clips because it takes me too much time; but yes, definitely, I’ll write other reaction, don’t worry about that!
I hope you enjoyed, thank you so much for reading!
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part 1: im a confident person, whats visible both in my looks and personality. i love standing out of the crowd, so wearing extravagant clothes and crazy hair colors is something that im well known of. but i dont have a particular aesthetic, so my clothing style is various (grunge, pastel, boho, sexy, vintage, tomboy; basically everything). even though im 170 cm tall, i like wearing high heels a lot and tbh, it doesn't make me feel awkward or insecure when i'm being taller than some boys.





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Hello friend!! :D
Ok. So uh... I can explain on why this is fairly long then my normal match ups.... Like at first I was gonna matching you with Terushima but as I kept rereading I found myself also matching you with Yachi???? I’m going to stay with Terushima mainly but Imma put some explanation for Yachi as well. So you get two matches basically lol.
Lets start with Terushima. He would LOVE your confidence in yourself, seeing how you express yourself through fashion is also something he can related to. Terushima would definitely be the type to show you off, like full on gestures to you like “THIS IS MY AMAZING (S/O)” and such. When you wear High heels though this man is dead on the floor, he is in heaven. Terushima looks like he is smooth af but we all know he is WEAK when it comes to his (S/O) so have fun short circuiting his brain.
Honestly? I don’t think Teru would mind letting you take the lead. It’s obvious since he was captain of Johzenji that he too is a leader in his own right. But there has to be times where he is just...not having it? and needs to be looked after himself. Teru is smart enough to recognize that, so if anything he would gladly let you take care of things if he can take care of you as well.
This man is a lot smarter then most people will give him credit for, he is in college prep classes for god sakes! Not to mention he is super in tune with the people around him. So when Teru sees that you need help he will definitely step in to help explain anything that needs to be explained. You can probably ask him the same thing 100 times and he will not think anything less of you. I wrote this in another match up about Iwazumi but I think it fits Terushima here as well. If you zone out he will help you tune into the world when its needed. Terushima knows its gonna happen no matter what he does, so he would probably relay the information you missed back to you when you come back or make sure you don’t hurt yourself from not paying attention. If you want a system to help you keep focus he will be more then willing to help find what works for you! I wouldn’t be surprised if he already looked up stuff on the internet before to see what he can do.
Terushima can’t really stay quiet, in fact I can see him fidgeting because of all the energy he has. To distract himself, he would probably be playing video games or watching movies when y’all cuddle or if you want some quiet time. Though there are times after practice where he is just gonna crash from working out and just wants to be held as he relaxes. I think I stressed him being smart enough. HOWEVER, YES Terushima can hold deep conversations! He might crack a joke every once in awhile to make you smile or laugh but he can play devil’s advocate really well.
Honestly its at half way through part 5 where I started to rethink about my choice. Terushima in canon was being extremely pushy towards getting Kiyoko’s phone number and I can only imagine what other questionable things he has done. So understandably that would be an automatic turn off, since you talked about having bad experiences with guys. Terushima would have to probably learn that maybe doing that to people he is attracted to isn’t the best way to get an (S/O). So it would take a lot of growth on his part to gain your trust before you two actually get into a relationship.
So what originally made me thing about matching you with Yachi is that we know she is Interning at a Design Company. I might be jumping here but combining that and the posters she made for Karasuno she actually would probably would like to have you model a lot for her. Of course she will never force you into anything but seeing how confident you are and how your preference of style ranges so much, it would definitely something she would like to try out atleast. Yachi is also super careful though also fairly clumsy herself when startled. I don’t think she will be able to help you when you zone out but she wouldn’t be opposed to tuning you back. She will definitely be the type to suggest a system to help you, we seen her help Hinata and Kageyama with tests and the likes. So it wouldn’t be to much of an issue.
Yachi is pretty shy so she would probably like to hear about what you have to say and only occasionally chiming in with her own take. Cuddles and PDA will be something she will need to get used to though. It also goes with out saying that she would be super impressed that you know so many languages, however I think Yachi would be more interested in the cultures of those countries so she would ask you about that. It also means that she would try to incorporate more foreign influences into her designs.
ALSO IMAGINE Y’ALL SENDING LETTERS TO EACH OTHER. THATS WOULD BE SO FREAKING CUTE. LOVE LETTERS AND LETTER IN GENERAL NEED TO BE MORE OF A THING AND I THINK YACHI WOULD BE A BLUSHING MESS EACH TIME SHE GETS ONE.
That being said I also match you with Semi, Tendou or Kiyoko.
I hope you liked this! Thank you for sending in a match up! :D
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