#it’s all futile it’s all pointless
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bolasrojas · 11 months ago
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Phil…pookie….not the time
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philzavaping · 2 years ago
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need wilbur soot to kill himself right now bc how the fuck am i meant to quickly switch from a dmaj7 to this MONSTROSITY during iafiap (miwb version)
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pk-dann · 2 years ago
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Lovejoy
Pebble Brain (EP) - Track 7 - IAFIAP
[and maybe use a sextant...]
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fadeawaywithyou · 1 year ago
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Wilbur Soot did NOOOOOOOOOOTTTTT say the lines "you guys are anything to make me feel less numb" at the latest lovejoy concert okay???? becuase IF HE DID my lie would be ruined and it is WAYYYYY to early in the morning for that i JUST woke up
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supernovaa-remnant · 1 year ago
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I know other fans like to talk about how aro-coded lovejoy songs are and all that, but I am a firm believer that "It's All Futile! It's All Pointless" is the most aro-coded song of their entire discography.
This is one of my favorites of their songs, and I have analyzed it and am now deciding to share this analysis with tumblr.
This is gonna get long, so everything will be under the cut:
Let's start with Verse One:
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To start with, university is seen as this place where you learn more about yourself and find your people and overall discover yourself as an individual. However, despite the idea of finding your own path at university, there are still societal norms that people just expect you to experience.
In our society, romance and sex are two of the most fundamental milestones in a person's life. At university, people expect you to forge romantic relationships and sometimes sexual relationships, and the only (in society's eyes, acceptable) reason to not be doing so is because of focusing on studies. I, for one, expected that I'd inevitably experience some romantic interests at university, before I realized I was aromantic, like, a month before going.
Point is, it's expected, and it's often just treated like a given.
Now, I've seen other people talk about this, but there's very particular word choice with "datelines" and "sextant." Taking a geography course to learn the datelines and maybe use a sextant can also be read as going to university with the expectations of going on dates and maybe having sex (because, for all that sex is considered a societal norm, there's also a lot of stigma around it with purity culture, but that's an entire other discussion).
But sometimes that just doesn't happen. And, this isn't a unique aroace experience (and some aroace people do date or have sex at uni), but the point is that, sometimes, aromantic people go into uni with the same expectations that society tells them to have, and then that doesn't happen. Or it does happen, but it goes badly. Because sometimes self discovery leads to realizing you don't experience these feelings that are so often attributed to being human.
Continuing on, later in this same verse societal expectations are brought up again.
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This is essentially just a list of what society tells you adulthood is. This is the future in store for you. There's references to the Nuclear Family dynamic as well—where there are two parents in a romantic relationship and their kids. In the line previous to the one above, the romantic partner is mentioned, so it's safe to picture this as the Nuclear Family model.
But, you'll notice that the line very specifically talks about having to do these things. You have to reproduce. You have to get married and have kids and be in a romantic relationship and maybe have sex, but not too much because, again, society often views sex as something dirty.
But no where is there any indication of wanting this future.
(It should be noted that some aromantic people do want this type of future, and some do not. Aromanticism is defined by little to no romantic attraction, and it is experienced in vastly different ways by different people. There is no one way to aro).
Onto the Pre-Chorus!
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Now, this line can be interpreted in different ways, but this post is about looking at this song through the lens of aromanticism, so that's what we're focusing on.
This line is talking about not actually missing the person with whom you've had romantic relations, but, rather, the thought of that romantic relationship.
The thing is, society practically promises kids a happy ending in the form of romance. Romance is the happy ending, and, without it, it's a sad ending. Because of this, there are a lot of aromantic people who feel almost robbed of something that was promised to them. This can lead them to pursuing romantic relationships anyway, even when that's not something that will actually make them happy. So, they're missing the thought of the relationship rather than the person it was with. It's them missing the thought of this promised happy ending.
(Again, there's no one way to be aro, and this is far from everyone's experiences).
Let's quickly jump to the second verse (we'll get to the chorus last—that's my favorite part and the part that you may find most interesting).
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These lines very much read to me as specifically an aroallo experience. It's showing preference of the sexual aspect of the relationship rather than the romantic relationship.
But the partner wants that romantic aspect. The partner feels the romantic attraction that an aroallo person might not. So, he's picking a lock he doesn't go into, because this person isn't going to reciprocate those romantic feelings and are more interested in sexual relations. (But it can be difficult to have a no strings attached sexual relationship, especially with alloro people who might fall in love).
Anyway, this line is pretty straight forward to me as an aroallo experience, but feel free to ask for clarification.
The bridge:
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This again goes back to society essentially telling people that they'll be unhappy and alone without a romantic relationship.
Being aromantic can be an incredibly isolating experience. Especially when you're at university and you're in a period of such great change within yourself and in those around you. This isn't true for everyone, but being aromantic and seeing everyone around you get into romantic relationships can be scary and can bring forth so many negative emotions.
Because of this, sometimes aro people decide to pursue romantic relationships even if they don't necessarily want to because they feel like they'll be left behind and end up unhappy if they don't.
But it's okay as long as it makes them feel less numb and alone.
Finally, the chorus, which is the most fascinating part imo.
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This is the chorus as it appears in Lovejoy's version of "It's All Futile! It's All Pointless!" However, what some people don't know is that there's a slight variation in the original version of the song which was released in 2020 in Wilbur's "Maybe I Was Boring" EP (essentially the songs that didn't make it onto ycgma).
Whilst the chorus is the same the first time it is sung, the second time the chorus is played, there's a change.
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Now, on it's own, it may not seem like much.
"Stella! How are you connecting this to aromanticism?" Patience, dear reader.
For the life of me, I cannot find this reddit post where this was originally commented, but Wilbur said that the line was originally supposed to be "it's a strategy to ensure I remain (in love)," but that last bit was never recorded.
However, it is so interesting to me because, yes, it can be interpreted in an allo way, but it can also so easily be interpreted in a number of different aro ways.
Option A) This aromantic person has fallen in love. It's under specific circumstances, it's the exception, whatever, but they want to stay in love. Why? Well, admittedly, sometimes I think it'd be easier to be alloro. Because, as previously mentioned, being aromantic can be such an isolating experience.
Option B) This aromantic person wants to stay under the illusion that they're in love, even if they're not. Why? For the reasons above, or because that way they can feel less broken.
There's a plethora of different reasons why some aro people sometimes want to be in love. And a lot of the time it ties back to society hyping up romance for basically all our lives, and then suddenly being confronted with not getting that. Not to mention the whole relationship hierarchy thing where romance is placed at the very top of the pyramid, and, well, sometimes people just want to be someone's first priority like a romantic partner would be.
Bonus:
There was a stream at one point where some chatter said something along the lines of "us aromantics are going to steal your songs" (I saw this clip in an edit earlier today which inspired me to make this post, but I cannot find the clip on it's own so I haven't included it </3).
Wilbur then goes onto say "you aromantics need to read my lyrics. you should read It's All Futile! It's All Pointless! Figure out what it's about." He of course then went on to briefly mention Perfume and said something about most of his music, but he said iaf!iap! first.
And, honestly, combined with everything in the song itself going all the way back to the original version of the song, I just think it goes to show that this song is the aromantic-coded lovejoy song of them all.
Why do Wilbur's songs have various levels of aro-coding? Idk. Tbh it's probably none of my business. I just think it's neat.
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Anyway, thank you for coming to my TEDTalk. Please go listen to both Lovejoy's version and the original version of "It's All Futile! It's All Pointless!" and remember to stream wu&io!
(All four songs of Maybe I Was Boring is in one track of the same name on Wilbur Soot's spotify account if you want to listen to the original version of the song).
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sbblake · 1 year ago
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sighs. more vent collages
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lwkshrav · 1 year ago
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lovejoy is a drug
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stormyth-art · 1 year ago
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the characters I made for my most recent vid! pls watch the vid to hear me explain their lore lol XD
songs are:
how far we've come - matchbox 20
it's all futile! it's all pointless! - lovejoy
rat- penelope scott
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thund3randrain · 1 year ago
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Song of the Day 12
I may be biased as a diehard Lovejoy fan, but personally every day is a Lovejoy day, and this is the best song from pebble brain hands down.
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kayakischaotic · 1 year ago
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i took all the top answers from my lovejoy polls so…
i am so surprised cause for concern was the highest voted from are you alright
edit: pretend i spelt “what” right…..
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dirtdotmp3 · 10 months ago
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ugh idk why every page is a different color im assuming its bc magenta is fake or whatever. anyways this is from like. thanksgiving.
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rynwanders · 1 year ago
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bruh... songs that just... are your personal experience
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intravertedxtravert · 1 month ago
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‘Cuz this is the part where I shut up, and let you infest my brain. Wrap your arms around my cortex, dig you in, and let you drain. No, you’ll never get rid of me. Oh I’m like a fucking disease, I’ll make a home in your gut, cuz it’s somewhere warm to sleep.
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howifeltabouthim · 2 months ago
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The quest was over, they were back home safe, and it was all for nothing, but everything had worked out anyway, more or less. In the end they'd made no contribution whatsoever. They could've stayed home for all the difference it made. Though who knows, maybe things would've gone differently if they hadn't. We cannot know what would have happened. He wondered if even God knew, or whether the realm of Might-Have-Been was hidden from His mighty prying eyes.
Lev Grossman, from The Bright Sword
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frumfrumfroo · 10 months ago
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Can't believe I never noticed before that most of the dialogue in TFA is... kinda bad? As bad as anything in TROS. The prequels dialogue is bad, but you can tell it's *attempting* poetry. A lot of the dialogue in TFA and TROS is just stating the obvious or trite quips.
It's not a great movie.
#they had one brilliant transcendent thing which could have carried this whole trilogy and made it seem like real art#could have put it up there as actually worth remembering#made it a legitimate part of the story#but no#no#and I've said this before but if they wanted to make forgettable cash in garbage they should have just done that#and done it in a crowd pleasing way which didn't destroy the narrative#they should have had the OT trio together they should have had unchallenging fanservice#because how fucking dare they tear down the happy ending of RotJ with no intention of building to a fuller and larger resolution#how dare they have Han Luke and Leia all die for nothing as failures#never having been reunited#for no reason#they all had mostly miserable lives and no one ever fixed anything or grew up- the entire saga was pointless and futile#and these people claim to be fans#they couldn't have shit on the OT harder if they'd tried#but yeah legit reylo was so compelling and Ben was so perfectly sw it could have papered over the (huge) flaws that TFA built into the ST#IX didn't even have to be great#if it had had the appropriate narrative resolution it would be beloved anyway#RotJ is the weakest film in the OT but it is deathless because of the powerful thematic statement and resounding conclusion it provides#bc it retroactively makes ESB even better and makes ANH much deeper#deep storytelling from the dawn of time speaking profound hope will overcome all superficial issues#it's so satisfying that we don't care about clunkiness in other areas#but guess it's more important to make the deadline for the quarter than to create something that will still be generating money 60 years on#instead of being swept into the slop bucket of franchise offal and buried in a steel drum on Mars to prevent contamination
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xx-poetry-witch-xx · 11 months ago
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i would pay a couple hundred dollars to see iafiap live in concert i don't even have to be up on the stage i could be way in the back i just need to see it live i need to see it live i need to see-
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