#it was so fucked up of mephone to just.

[mikokiara]

do you guys ever think how scary it must have been for taco though? like, dying. Do you wonder how traumatic and scary that must have been for her? how she literally accepted that she wasn't coming back and how shocked and shaken up she was when she did? do you guys think about that?

[little-green-forest]

Ok, yeah but like. You made him. And parents typically make their own kids.

Also, dose SHE already know???

[br1ghtestlight]

btw sorry that i care more abt family relationships and parenting than i do abt shipping or romance. if i wanted that i would be on ao3 in the inanimate insanity trenches

[florshedworf]

NO OTHER MEPHONE WE’VE SEEN DO THIS ‼️‼️ GUYS!!!!

hey guys!

[novaazurite]

II2 16 SPOILERS, enjoy a post of me screaming in all caps about this damn episode!!!

IM ABSOLUTELY TWEAKING I WANT TO CRY SO HARD RIGHT NOW I WANT TO EXPLODE MY MIND IS ABSOLUTELY IN SHAMBLES.

FIRST OFF.

(made 04/11/24)

I CANT BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THOSE TWO BEING MEPHONE3G AND OG MEPHONE IM SCREAMING MY HEAD OFF FROM THIS.

3GS IS SUCH A SWEETIE! PLEASE GET HIM OUTTA THERE I WANT HIM TO BE HAPPY PLEASE LET HIM BE HAPPY.

I absolutely freaked when I saw Cabby, Candle and Goo. WHAT ARE THEY DOING HERE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ON INVITATIONAL ISLAND.

Cobs, I hate you so much, you threw down a bombshell of a reveal. NOBODY IS FUCKING REAL. THEY WERE ALL MADE BY MEPHONE. This is why MePhone was able to recover them through MeLife, this is why he cant recover Bot, and couldnt recover Bow nor Dough, because those three are real, this is why Bow and Dough are ghosts, because they were genuinely real people.

Now it makes sense why Suitcase mentioned MePhone was gone for a day. THEY ARENT REAL THEY ARENT REAL MY LIFE IS A LIE MY LIFE IS A LIE MY LIFE IS A LIE.

Invitational did happen, its just Knife/Suitcase/Baseball/Lightbulb arent real to even notice if time has passed. If they were real, they would had have genuine reactions to MePhone straight up abandoning them for several months at best. I think this is why MePhone genuinely like Bot why they were so different to him compared to the other contestants.

THIS EPISODE FUCKING KILLED ME IN COLD BLOOD I AM NOT RECOVERING FROM THIS GOOD FUCKING BYE.

[tapwater118]

inanimate insanity season 2 episode 16 spoilers

oh so thats how it is

mephoneX being not just a terminator but a selectively-antimemetic soul-deleting terminator is fucking awesome. also yeah toilet is definitely dead. rip bro

i got jumpscared by the scream taco made when pickle got deleted. oh my fucking god are they never going to get a chance to talk again. ohhhhhh fuck

also poor suitcase like. yeah ur paranoia and psychosis were right absolutely nothing about your reality is real. whatrg the fuck. also hello season three newbies who literally only show up to worsen suitcase’s episode what. were they just keeping you lot in the back room or something

ok ok going back to that everyone and everything on the show is fake?? mephone really letting himself get bullied by his own dream demons like goddamn. IS THAT WHY TIME WASNT PASSING ON INANIMATE ISLAND DURING SEASON 3 CAUSE MEPHONE LEGIT JUST PAUSED IT LIKE A SIMULATION???? not even like a simulation that shit WAS a simulation. is that also why he can revive them and no one else cause theyre all his own creations what. i love it when an art style upgrade is explained in universe like bfdia 13 and the improvement raygun. mephone got better at his craft the same way animationepic did i love that shit eat it up for breakfast

i have so many questions and no episode 17 to answer them. going insane over those inanimates fr

[cabyang]

okay guys its a very common theory/hc that the ii and bfdi universes are connected and if that's the case what the fuck does this temple mean

unlike most objects, which probably have non sentient counterparts in universe with little to no implications, this has lots of implications because of the existiance of yinyang from ii

now as lollipop calls this a shrine, we know that this building is explicitly for religious purposes, as that's kinda what a shrine is, and that's really weird as everything else in canon points to the bfdi world being atheistic, with all mentions to god being replaced with the objects origins.

did yinyang come after the yinyang symbol? if that's the case, that means object china or atleast an equivalent had to exist at some point, to create the yinyang symbol and taoism. This, combined with the fact this is a shrine means at some point, in the bfdi world, the yinyang ended up being venerated like a god or atleast became a big part of the mythology.

This has big implications for yinyang as he was introduced way before this episode came out. In the bfdi canon the timeline is very linear with the exception of the new bfdia episodes, which means it's likely that yinyang was born before this temple existed or was discovered by four and company. Since there was no mention of any gods or temples before this very moment, either religion as a whole died out or this temple is recent.

Starting with the first scenario, if religion was well and burried and the yinyang had become a religious symbol, how could yinyang BE a yinyang? well the most obvious answer is that he was born when religion was around. This has some pretty serious implications as these are very clearly Roman/Greek inspired, and if you didnt know, ancient Roman times were a long time ago. This would mean yinyang could potentially be immortal, somehow stumbling from these ruins to where ever the fuck mephone was hiring.

The second scenario has way more implications with it as there are another two possible scenarios. Either yinyang was just a child in this recent religion, or he may be of divine origin (no seriously hear me out)

If yinyang was just born in this religion, does that mean there are little cross objects running around? is there a holy grail in a preschool playground somewhere?

it would align alot closer with the zero information we have on the object reproduction process if yinyang was just the god of this religion (or some sort of other divinity like a demigod), although it make alot less sense with everything else. Like how he got a head injury in iii 14, did he just let that happen or is he like in some mortal disguise? why did a random ass god/demigod choose to compete in possibly the worst run reality show ever?

so yeah that has been the end of my yapping session yinyang god HC is extremely funny to me send post

[sewersewersewercouch]

fuck ok I'm still ii posting. taco in this episode did something to my brain. like pickle can't have had much time to say anything else before he got got, right? there was like only a few seconds of that cutaway to mephone and tissues before we hear them both scream. she tried to make amends which he did not accept (understandable), the last thing he does is call her stupid, and then INSTANTLY started freaking out and died to death right in front of her for reasons she couldn't understand. and like...god rheagan did so good!!! taco is so fucking miserable. like, even throughout truth or flare when she's at her worst, she still tries to have her walls up--frequently fails, yes, but she's still clearly trying to seem like she's in control, and here she just isn't. she's just openly sobbing. she doesn't seem to care if anyone sees her like this.

[knightobreath]

oliver's epic ii2 movie act 1 trailer analysis

ok so ! theres a lot. im going through it scene by scene

steve cobs KEEPS calling mephone. what the hell is his plan here. i would say mephone should just block his ass but i have a feeling that he is unable to. I predict that he's gonna have to answer at some point.

(also, i went and checked, but the sound that played is the same as the hang up sound from ep15)

also hotel oj party yayyy everyone gets to hang out and have some fun before everything goes to Shit!

this shot's just fucked up man. i don't think i need to explain what this parallels.

this is either a realization or someone walking in, and i think it's the latter because there's little build up. I cannot tell who it would be based on his reaction only, but it Would be someone in the hotel.

OR. what if it's another hallucination like with 4s in the iii finale? That would explain why there's no light from a door opening.

baseball was already upset before seeing taco & mepad

his reaction BARELY CHANGED when he did see them (the eyebag line showed up after he looked through the door)

mepad is comforting taco, who is likely worked up about you know. talking to pickle and mic

man i actually like the bullets format im going with this from now on

mic is happy! I don't have any predictions for the context of this scene

we're getting stuff on knife and trophy!

can't really extrapolate from this scene, hard to tell if trophy was throwing the can there on purpose or not.

test tube, fan, and paintbrush are going to play a very active role in the episode

As pointed out here, they're in the area that Paintbrush burned down in episode 12.

This area has a direct tie to Cobs with the painting, it's possible that they're trying to stop him on their own.

The device test tube is holding is a reused asset, and was both the time machine from episode 12 and the gem detecting device from episode 13. due to this reuse of the asset, we can't know for sure what it does here.

My prediction is that the device is being used to detect something meeple-related.

I'll note here that mephone is only shown inside of the hotel for the duration of the trailer, I believe that he might be hiding in there for most of this act while the contestants go out and actually try to fix things.

NOW THIS IS INTERESTING. Knife and suitcase are traveling in the Grand Slams balloon from Theft and Battery.

Since it's only the two finalists, this could be a part of the final challenge.

Hot air balloons in ii have only been used twice. once in theft and battery to get to mecloud, and once in the great bluish bake-off to get to the end of the desert.

I predict that because of cobs's importance to the plot of this episode that this balloon is going to mecloud, although I'm not entirely sold on the idea.

I predict that this goes before the scene where they're outside of the hotel.

tt and pb have an idea! and they're confident in it.

Judging by paper's expression, this was brought on by something Not Good Happening.

blah blah somehow i connect this to meeple shenanigans okay moving on

simple! suitcase and knife entering the hotel

hi lightbulb

Cobs is PERSISTENT. voiceover backs this up

He must call mephone a lot during the episode

Mephone is clearly running off so people don't see him constantly receiving these calls. i bet hes having a complete crisis over it. panic attack

I predict that as the justification because hotel OJ seems to be a relatively safe space. Theres a total horror to it, a looming danger only one person can really see. He's being hunted down in the middle of a party.

I predict that Cobs's presence in this episode is mostly through this looming horror.

Then there's the flashback of episode 15 with mepad being mad at mephone, voiceover is mephone asking mepad for help, and i'll take a break from dissecting visuals for a sec

MEPHONE: We can't escape him this time! MEPHONE: You have to help. MEPAD: We no longer work together. MEPHONE: Then, don't do it for me.

The voice lines may be put together from other parts of the episode

ehehe i get to talk about mepad. Okay

Mepad not working with mephone extends beyond the show. He actually just doesnt want anything to do with him anymore. oh my god

listen. i would write a whole essay about mepad and mephone rn But i have more scenes to get through.

mephone being the one guy that mepad refuses to help anymore is sending me Dude you fucked this up bad. you ruined your relationship with the one guy whos willing to help literally anyone. but it also shows how out of depth he was coming back from iii because his previous development is not helping him with his mental health this fucked

the "don't do it for me" is said over a scene showing all of the hotel oj guests implying that mepad should do it for everyone else. while this is definitely true i think mepad should also just do it for himself. please. please have mepad start doing things for himselffffffffff PLEASE

I'll touch on this more as i go through the visuals

taco knocking on pickle's door. it's happening chat

and i think he saw her

judging by the eye height though? I'm not actually sure. Taco isn't that tall, so either he sees Mepad or someone/thing else. Most likely has to do with taco though.

off topic but does oj seriously decorate his hotel's walls with images of cups and oranges. someone get this guy an interior decorator PLEASE

Don't have much to say here. not much is happening and there doesn't seem to be any implications with this bit.

whys paper so mad at those hats

off they go!

i bet these two will be running around in the background of everything a lot.

likely not using mepad's teleportation because it's flashy and noisy, which doesnt work well for stealth.

everyone's here! except for nickel, who doesnt show up at all in this trailer. don't know what to say about that.

salt also isnt in this particular shot, but she was at the party in another shot earlier.

Oh and mephone. He's probably stepping outside to take a call hehehehehehehehehehehe

pickle also isn't here, but i expect he's either avoiding the party for some reason or preoccupied with a certain sideplot. Or both.

ANIMATION ERROR SPOTTED!!!! BOMB IS ON A LAYER BELOW TROPHY!!!!!

everyone seems to be having such a nice time enjoying themselves! it would be a shame if something horrible were to happen and several characters were to permadie

*cough*but of course that wouldnt happen. Um

the final shot of the trailer is mepad

i love mepad

i hope he doesnt die

this means hes gonna have another big role in an episode...

it seems a lot of the plot is gonna hinge on the decisions made by mepad. specifically if he's gonna help mephone or not

okay I'm tired. i may add more later. WAIT my final thoughts,

BIG PREDICTION: Mephone will try to hide the cobs calls at the party but will get found out. When he's found out various characters (including tt pb and fan as shown earlier) will try to help in some way. This is act 1, so a lot of stuff will be set up but there wont be any big deliveries.

Mepad will play another big role.

Taco WILL talk to pickle.

Any big deaths, especially permadeaths, will either happen right at the end of this act or in a later act altogether.

more toilet. please animaitonepic Please show us toilet again. i have hope since we saw the ep12 challenge area.

this party is not ending well.

i need to rewatch season 1 i barely remember it

[porter-pumpkim]

so... episode 17

the shimmer theory was correct! But also holy fucking shit I was not prepped for all of that-

As soneone who copes with their own trauma via making goofy and very traumatized ocs mephone is a very relatable character to me, and I love tge concept of ocs facing their creator for everything they did to them, even if I know my ocs would instantly kill me

Also can we not go feral about the mephone age thing? I don't care if he's an adult, a child, some weird secret 3rd robot option, as an adult you can still identify with a potentially younger character, it's not that big a deal

Also HOLY HELL THAT ENDING

I liked that cobs was trying to make mephone scream to summon the shimmer, he knew that their lost child itself screaming would be enough to make them show up,

ALSO MEPHONE X BEING TOULET THREW ME FOR ONE HELL OF A LOOP, YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THIS HORRIFYING DEATH CREATURE WAS FUCKING TOILET!?

Bro EVERYONE IS DEAD, EVERYTHING IS GONE, ITS JUST, NOTHING, WHAT ABOUT THE SHIMMER!? WHAT ABOUT MEPAD!? 4S!? WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE AT THE MANSION, BOT!? THERES SO MUCH JUST LEFT UNANSWERED! IS THERE A SECRET 18TH EPISODE WE DONT KNOW ABOUT? DO WE JUST END ON MEPHONE HAVING TO GO BACK TO COBS CAUSE THEIRS NOTHING ELSE?

also ngl kinda mood- like, I get not everyone's gonna relate to that ending specifically but like, getting so caught up in your ocs' and stories, to the point they feel real, like they're their own people beyond you, they feel like the friends you never got to have irl, only for real life to pop up, having to go back to family figures you don't trust, abusive or dismissive, family that feels like a threat, that isn't even your actual parents, that, honestly hit a little hard for me-

Not saying my life is horrible, just, oh god that hit hard,

It's over.

My feelings on this ending are just, weird, I like it, I love how everyone went beyond just mephones first draft ideas for them during the series, the lack of proper closer is honestly relatable if this really is the end,

Just,

Holy shit that was one hell of a ride

[enbypotat53]

II EPISODE 17 TRAILER SPOILERS!!

I. Am going to be sick.

WHAT THE FUCK???

Lightbulb using the clicky pen again?? BAXTER?? Seems her facade is finally cracking; she's beginning to realise how serious this situation is and that is TERRIFYING.

FUCKING. KNIFE?? AND SUITCASE?? DEATHMATCH?? Oh my GOD I'm not prepared for this FUCK DO YOU MEAN IT'S RELEASING IN LESS THAN A WEEK?? ADAM?? JUSTIN?? BRIAN?? AAAAAAAAAA

Paper yelling at Salt is intriguing to say the least. Not sure what it'll be about, possibly OJ? But DAMN.

"It'll give you some time to process! I know ya need it :)" FUCK YOU STEVE.

We also get confirmation possibly on who is still alive, though Yinayang notably isn't there. Soap is also gone, though I had my suspicions that she died off-screen. Mephone X also showing up near Purgatory Mansion is NOT helping my suspicion that at least one of the Bright Lights will die. POSSIBLY Lightbulb, though my bets are still on Fan.

Just. AUGH I'M SO NOT READY FOR THIS 😭😭 JUSTIN YOU MADLAD YOU KEPT YOUR WORD AND RELEASED THE TRAILER EARLY BUT GOD I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS READY FOR IT...

[oscconfessions]

since nickel defenders are gonna be obtuse on purpose about this, ill grab a better comparison. everyone is so deep in denial about taco's redemption and insist she's just horribly evil because "she manipulated people" even in the face of an entire episode surrounding her regrets and complexities

meanwhile trophy Also manipulates people (its a massive part of his character bio on the official site lmao) and was not redeemed in canon nor did he show any regret whatsoever but got one or two crew mentions of a cut redemption arc years ago and now EVERYONE insists that he's perfectly fine in canon and redeemed and "just chilling/vibing"

(not to mention balloon manipulated people too but yknow fandom allows him to improve and find new bonds with other characters, while taco apparently just needs to fuck off from everyone and self isolate more to Truly redeem herself /s)

people will go "well taco's evil because she forced everyone apart!!" as in following the challenge that Mephone Set Up Himself. but nooo mephone had no hand in this, he's innocent /s

people will then shift it to "taco's evil bc she stalks people actually" as if FAN DOESNT DO THE EXACT SAME ??? and fan is treated like just a quirky little socially awkward sweetie for it, while female characters (this was the same argument applied to cabby btw) get called evil and creepy for it.

do not try to tell me there's not a misogyny problem in this fandom . yall will act like taco is a specially evil case and conveniently forget every male character doing the same

.

[lotto840]

Uhh yeah II 16 thoughts because WOW def fav episode so far

Also spoilers ofc

Of the three dead none were the ones I was expecting. Strange how only the victims were the one to see Mephone X… also means we probably know what happened to Toilet…

Also Cabby and Candle not being hallucinations had me rolling, like, holy fuck you two time and place lol

It is odd how we saw what looked like Lightbulb death spoilers on the thumbnail but she survived to the end of the episode. And on the topic of Bright Lights, we never saw any of the four Mephone X killed be at Purgatory Mansion, I’m guessing that’s either Pt 2 or there’s going to be a more screwed up explanation.

And Baseball. Ohhhhj myyyy goddddd they’re really making up for lost time with him aren’t they? I’m def healing after his elimination.

Sorry abt the bad formatting my mind is just reeling with possibilities for what’s next.

[ecto-hazard]

I just rewatched ii s1 (fucked up right?)

im just gonna make a post compiling some barebones concepts that im curious about. cause with the latest reveal, im wondering how much previous stuff might become relevant.

Obviously this was made years ago by a bunch of kids so its possible that most of the details can be disregarded as random bullshit. It does seem like they put a lot of work in creating retcons though so I have reason to believe theyre building off their previous work on purpose but i could be wrong and thats fair. im gonna post about it anyway tho

ii16 spoilers discussed under the cut

Who Mephone created (or rather, didn't create)

Mephone supposedly made every contestant for the show, but there's a couple vague characters.

Fan: weirdly enough he's in a gray area cause he appears as a background character before s2, but he also glitched out in that one episode, so its unlikely he wasnt created by Mephone. But yknow.

Apple: Apple is a fan character who was submitted to the show, and this is addressed in canon. It's possible that mephone made her and the other fan contestants based on whatever the submitters asked?

Bow: she randomly shows up after an ad read. Mephone doesnt seem to even want her to join, but he receives a call from Adam to insist she join. Mephone seems quite resistant to the idea (which would be weird if he made her?) Most interestingly, she's the only one in this list that Mephone couldn't recover.

Dough MIGHT be one mephone didnt create, but it seems pretty likely that Mephone would create him as he was specifically requested by adam to get bow back. Dough does seem like something he'd throw together really quickly to cover his ass

The reason any of this could be relevant is that if they arent created by Mephone, they probably cant be deleted by Cobs.

Adam

Stuff about Adam (the character not the guy) has been kinda quiet lately? He was supposedly the producer of ii, and pays mephone apparently? He clearly has a role to play since he showed up in one of Mephone's memories and seems to be a creation by cobs. So observing his actions in s1 might be valuable, especially since cobs would be able to manipulate the show through him.

Some notable actions of his:

Insisting on Bow being in the show. This is doubly interesting if Bow isn't one of Mephone's creations. She could be an industry plant of some kind?

Telling Mephone to keep 4S out of the season finale. This is supposedly to keep the finale from going crazy. If Mephone had been successful, he wouldve been killed by Mephone 5. Its possible this was on purpose so 4 could be destroyed and replaced

Investing in another season. at the end of s2, despite things going wrong, he tells Mephone they're going to do another season. He sweetens the deal by offering a raise and agreeing to get Mephone an assistant (Toilet). Cobs clearly got invested in this show, so it makes sense he'd encourage more of it from the shadows.

Mephone 4S

Yeah talking about 4S isn't anything new, the fandom's obsessed with him. I am too.

The implications of Mephone4 being in 4S's body never really got explored in s2. I guess they were similar enough that it didn't really matter. But he clearly still has some relevance in the modern series. One of Mephone's memories shows him getting developed as a replacement for 4, and he actually appears in Invitational, Sorta? Clearly Mephone's bothered by the sacrifice he made.

At the very least, the show's reminding us that he existed, so maybe he still does exist? I don't think he's going to necessarily make a comeback or anything but I dunno. It seems like he might be able to talk to Mephone in his head so maybe there's something to that.

Evil Paper

Im just gonna be upfront that I don't have a dissociative disorder and its not my place to talk about how it works or what is good or bad representation so I'm not gonna get super deep into talking about this. I'm just curious if the team has any plans for addressing Evil Paper. They seemed to make an effort into writing Yin Yang more thoughtfully (whether or not they actually succeeded, again, not my say). I could see them giving Paper similar treatment. If they did I doubt it'd be very plot relevant though.

Is the Taco we got the Taco we were supposed to have?

I've actually seen this conversation circulate a little bit already. This sort of debate could apply to any character really, but Taco is perhaps the most interesting example because she's so involved in the latest episodes AND because Brian actually addressed a tweet about this.

Taco behaves like a goofy idiot for the majority of s1, only revealing at the end that she was faking it so she would make it to the end. She specifically says she was "built to win" (the quote Brian addresses), and shows a much more competent side when she actually competes. In fact if it weren't for Bow's interference, Taco would have won the challenge (another case of Bow being weird).

This all seems to imply that Taco may have been intended to win the series by Mephone. Cobs points out to Suitcase and Knife that Mephone had "high hopes" for them, so it's not unreasonable to say that maybe certain characters were liked over others. Mephone never seems to give special treatment openly, but that doesn't mean that when he made certain contestants he didn't at the very least expect them to do well.

What is highly unlikely though is that Taco was created to be a twist villain. This results in Mephone's death after all (though the activity of Bow and Mephone 5 also could be to blame). Especially since he had pressure from Adam to keep things running smoothly, it just wouldn't make sense that Mephone would specifically create someone to toss a wrench in things. Most likely Taco developed like this on her own accord.

But that also raises the question, if she wasn't meant to be a villain, what was she supposed to be? How much of the taco we have now is the Taco that Mephone created? We don't actually see how he reacts to her "reveal" because he's in the middle of running away from 5. But everyone else clearly never saw it coming. OJ specifically comments that this doesn't seem like "the Taco he's been competing with all this time," and while that's written in reference to her reveal, it also could mean she WASNT the Taco he'd been competing with. We do get a hint or two of her true self in previous episodes, but its possible she wasn't ever supposed to be like that.

I think its possible Mephone4 created her as a goofy goober joke character initially, and over time, she changed. She developed into a more tactful and villainous character with her exposure to the contest.

A few things in the most recent episodes might allude to this. One thing being how in ii15 she discusses how she became aware of how much the contest is changing everyone, herself included. Secondly, in ii16 she tells Pickle that at the time she didn't consider how her actions were going to hurt him. This is a really shitty apology and no excuse for it, but it ALSO could mean that at the time, Taco really didn't think about it. In S1, she claims that she was just using him, but we don't know how aware of herself she was back then. Its possible that there was a past version of Taco who wasn't deadset on winning no matter the cost, and being in the game changed her.

Anyway these have been my slopthoughts. It's like 9 pm and ive been writing this for like an hour. Maybe most of this wont get addressed at all in the series, but I figured i might as well compile it down since I just finished s1

[lampyoil]

ii 17 spoilers AGAIN AGAIN im gonna be yapping a lot

Ok WHOEVER on Animationepic decided to WRITE THEIR WEAKNESSES/BAD QUALITIES ON THEIR DEAD BODIES JUST KNOW I AM RAPIDLY APPROACHING YOUR DESTINATION.

i cannot beLIEVE WHAT I AM SEEING

UNSERIOUS FOR CHEESY FUCK DUDE

his whole life was literally a joke. like.. he was named cheesy because he made shitty cheesy jokes and his entire purpose was to be annoying and unfunny but also unable to fully get it

like.. literally his whole purpose was to be a joke. One that Mephone obviously didnt even like considering he was happy when Cheesy was voted out (Not blaming Mephone but it sucks)

cheesy just genuinely wanted people to be happy and to laugh but instead he was hated by his team for being annoying for the majority of his life considering he was made JUST for the show.

Im glad atleast in his final moments he was friends with people but even that was short lived because he died for no good reason other than cobs’ messed up ideas. it sucks so hard

im very emotional over cheesy especially because even before i was in the fandom and i just got a few edits of ii here and there, i was already a fan of cheesy. id doodle him before i even knew anything about him just from small info i learned through edits! he was the REASON i even got into object shows in the first place, seeing him die in such a quick way where he was obviously scared and then to have him drawn on after he literally DIED just.. sucks. im probably being way to emotional over this all but in my defense ive obsessed over this guy for the last like.. four or so years

if you excuse me i have to go make a shitty au where everyone comes back and is happy and joyful and cobs dies in a fire

[kaleaido]

hey buddy i got a theory for ya. since you want me to be a villain ill be one. in ii 2 15 remember these interactions? “you always did have a way with words, mephone” “and you always DIDNT until you suddenly did! what are you doing here, taco?” i believe taco was ACTUALLY stupid, but she was taken by cobs and tampered with by cobs just to suffer.

I'M FIGHTING DEMONS EVERY TIME YOU SEND ME SOMETHING IN MY INBOX GET OUT OF MY HEADGET OUT GETOUT!!!! /lh

OKAY but this brings up a really interesting point I want to ramble more on so get ready - I know we're all joking around and going "I can't believe Mephone purposefully made Taco evil and british that's so fucked up" but also was he aware of that??? like, did he intend for her to be a mastermind to begin with? from what he said in ii15 it would imply that he never even knew she was capable of forming coherent thoughts but did he really? there are multiple moments where Mephone is surprised by the contestants actions, which means the contestants DO have some sort of free will of their own. but to be fair, we don't know the full extend of control Mephone have over them - yeah, he most likely created the surface level stuff like personalities and whatnot, but what about character interactions and their inner turmoil???

it makes me wonder if Mephone is even aware that he created the contestant??? like surely he HAS to know. maybe he's hiding that fact from others or he's gaslighting himself. the more I think about it, the more I suspect that BP was actually another one of Mephone's creation. the "you can't do this forever" note now seems like he's referring to Mephone's refusal to admit that he created the contestant