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livepasthope · 11 months ago
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the thing about the kelvin timeline. hi. the thing about the kelvin timeline as a concept is it is so devastatingly good. like here we are in the future imagined by the original series and what do we do? we take this story that imagines a better, more tolerant universe and we strip it of all its optimism. we take this story and set it in a new timeline the nexus for which is a moment of catastrophic violence. and then that timeline is sealed by the destruction of an entire planet. and not just any planet. vulcan. the home of the people that initiate first contact, the event that is largely accepted as the catalyst that allows an earth decimated by ww3 to become an earth that could be home to all of starfleet. that's a fucking fascinating way to do a reboot. it's horrifying! when scotty says "this is clearly a military operation. is that what we are now" that's the whole question! and the answer seems to be yes! but we don't ever meaningfully engage with that question. or what it means for our characters and their lives and choices. and to top it all off, none of it was intentional! it's just that jj wanted to be making star wars instead. but nevertheless i am here. i am still here.
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sunnysideprincess · 8 months ago
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your favourite superhero is in trouble, but you can intervene and save the day: you can either send tony to assist cap in catws, or make steve join tony in one of his films. what is the film you choose and why?
Ooooooooo Steve being in Iron Man 2 for sure!!!!
I love AUs where Tony is dying and somehow ends up finding Steve. Such angst potential! There's that or Shield finding Steve early, sending Steve in instead of Nat as the spy. I can't remember but I think I read (or at least started to) a few of both takes.
My twist is that Steve would be absolutely disgusted by Tony's behaviour at first (the Avengers scepter argument would still happen lol) right up until Fury tells him that Tony's dying and they need to slow down the poison so he can science his way back to life. Steve would be so appalled on behalf of Tony because now that he's looking he can literally see the signs.
Giving Pepper his company, letting rhodey take the suit and his food habits would all make sense to steve :((
Also super fun scene when Happy goes to find Vanko with Steve because he's not letting Tony's pretty boy toy get hurt except Steve's actually Cap so Happy's gonna be like ಠ⁠_⁠ʖ⁠ಠ
And throughout the whole thing Steve's inner monologue is "oh no oh no this idiot's an actual moron and I'm an even bigger moron for liking him"
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glynnisi · 2 years ago
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Marvel "Solo" Films- Unpopular Opinion
I don't know if there will be a 3rd solo/stand alone Black Panther film, but so far I'd say the Black Panther movies are the most consistent stand alone films in the MCU.
Black Panther was a cultural phenomenon with one of the best villains in the entire MCU. The cast, the world-building, COSTUMES, music. The only downside was that the 3rd act fight was dark. Wakanda Forever was a meaningful study in grief with perhaps the best teaser trailer EVER. Again, great cast, music, costumes, world-building. HEART. Namor was compelling. A little overstuffed w Iron Heart & Val on top of well-done Talokon. M'Baku stands out in both films. Nakia, Ramonda, Okoye & the Dorae. The tone from one film to the other is CONSISTENT.
Iron Man trilogy- the first Iron Man movie was awesome. Darker, grittier than much of the rest of the MCU. RDJ becoming Tony Stark. Cool suits/tech. Funny. Sad. Awesome. And then... the sequels kind of sucked. Yes, they had cool tech & stunts & RDJ carried them. But Tony pissing the suit? Bird? Fake Mandarin? *Cringe* They were bad.
My beloved, Captain America. Chris Evans did a great job as Steve Rogers. More nuanced & less flashy/quippy than Tony Stark, but great. CATFA was a sweet little comics movie w vintage vibe. Red Skull is a campy villain done as well as they could. Pretty good movie, not groundbreaking. BUT THEN- Captain America the Winter Soldier happened. It made Cap a badass. Fight scenes were AMAZING. Elevator scene! Cap & WS in the streets & at the end! Cap vs Quinjet! Nick Fury car chase. Black Widow badassery. Winter Soldier was scary & Hydra menacing. A tight, well-directed, well-written, well-edited, overall great FILM. Best of the MCU. PEAK Steve Rogers characterization. Yes. LOVED CATWS. So, then, Marvel said... "fuck Steve Rogers and his fans" (forever bitter & fuck you too Marvel). "RDJ's aging out & he makes $$$$. Let's give him Cap's 3rd film cuz BatmanVSuperman is coming & we're scared." IF you look at CACW as a Cap film, then Tony would be the villain. He's the 3rd act fight, the other face on the poster, the one trying to kill Steve. But, it's NOT a Cap film because Marvel couldn't suck RDJ off enough & could never nuance Tony's lack of emotional control as villainous. Nope. They made him Wooby crying out for his Mama. Waah! It's Avengers 2.5. It introduces Spiderman & Black Panther. It features every Avenger. It starts w Tony's early life trauma/loss of his parents/intro of his loving mom. (NO Sarah Rogers in Cap3, tho.) Then his guilt over lying & making Ultron & nearly ending the world. The longer end scene is Tony tending to his BF's injuries & sulking over Steve's apology. THEN we get a glimpse of Steve rescuing his friends from The Raft. Steve BARELY had more screen time than Tony in supposed Cap3. So, it's not a stand alone film. Cap fans were robbed.
The Thor films? Well. Uneven is an understatement. 1st Thor is kind of like the first Cap movie. Different tone. Deals well with campy comic elements. Branagh directed it as Shakespearean dramedy in space. Asgard is beautiful. Movie was made for the female gaze (like Mr. Hemsworth) and is a female fan fave. Thor the Dark World... is a dull follow-up. Malekith is the dullest villain ever. Dark Elves are so generic looking it's sad. If they'd been done differently, it could've had real menace. Lots of people are afraid of the dark, after all. Instead, Dark World is the most panned of all early Marvel films. Ragnarok is its polar opposite. Bright, colorful, comic-beautiful, but too funny. There's zero gravity to anything. Asgard explodes? Time for another joke. It's a fave, especially male fans. Thor is more badass in it, too. Loki is great. The faux tease of World War Hulk had fanboys delirious. And then there was Love & Thunder. Oh, L&T. Female fans were so excited for Mighty Thor/Jane Foster. Male fans were delirious that Gorr was coming & being played by Christian Bale. And, it's a huge flop. Again, comics beautiful. Too quippy, Taika. Not dark enough/wasted Gorr. Honestly, I enjoyed the kids/kiddishness because we took our son & he loved all that.
AntMan? The first was well done. Offbeat. Paul Rudd is CHARMING. Luis was the best thing in it. Scott's love for his daughter gave it HEART. Funny & fun. Great tone, though villain was meh. AntMan & the Wasp? Less fun. In big part that's because there were cast members phoning it in. Fishburne doesn't realize he was in it, FFS. Positive fam dynamic was too cheesily played. Meh. Then, Quantumania. Wait that may be the biggest flop of all MCU now. No stakes. No LUIS??? Exposition that something's coming? Lots of "care about these quirky characters you just met" and "listen... we're telling you Kang is bad... what? why should we show you?" Sigh. And... visuals were murky when the Quantum Realm should be vivid and sharp and vibrant and the most important element of the film.
Marvel is lucky so many fans have good imaginations and make their characters better than they did.
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luna-rainbow · 2 years ago
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What would have happened in your ideal Cap3 movie, Serpent Society or otherwise?
This is an amazing question! On the one hand I would LOVE 90 minutes of Steve and Bucky just chillin', but on the other hand I am a sucker for the action thriller genre and I also understand its conceits. I would have been quite happy with a plotty Cap 3 that is of similar to quality to CATWS, and leave the emotional recovery to fanworks.
First of all the focus of this movie needs to be on Steve, Bucky and Sam, and to a lesser extent Nat. I think one of the most important roles of this story is to set up why Sam would be the ideal candidate to take on the mantle should he choose to. I think Isaiah’s existence should be introduced as a discussion of just how much the SHIELD and CIA “compromised”, although I would prefer if that story is explored in more depth in a Sam-centric movie.
The arc I really want to see for Bucky is him gaining agency over his own missions. He’s bright and analytical, he’s been a sergeant, he’s the oldest of 4 kids — sure, during the war he was happy to step back into a supportive role for Steve but he’s also been a leader himself. I feel like canon Bucky often gets relegated to the follower role but he’s probably someone far more opinionated and strong-minded then he’s given credit for. I know a lot of people liked the fact that Bucky had holed himself up after CATWS, but I kinda want to see him be proactive, ya know, and not just be the NPC waiting for the main character to kickstart the plot. I also feel like it would be in his nature to be proactive rather than passive. Certainly, his CATFA story suggest he is assertive and independent-minded, and taking down Hydra is as much his goal as it is Steve's.
For Steve, though, I would like to see him either own the Captain America title or transition to Nomad. Either way, I want Steve to separate from the propaganda aspect of Captain America and take control of his own narrative. This is a theme that is unique to Steve amongst the Avengers. He was created to be the face of an entity; he had no knowledge or control over how that narrative was curated for 70 years, and then he was pressured into presenting himself to suit that narrative.
Ideally, the big bad should still be Hydra, because both Steve and Bucky deserved closure for everything that had happened in the last 70 years.
I feel like the natural flow of events from CATWS is that Zola has uploaded himself into the internet prior to his "brain" getting bombed - and maybe it would be a good tie-in to AoU to say that Zola's presence in the internet corrupted Ultron and drove him down the genocidal path. Fury and Hill head to Europe, where they run into Bucky as he tries to solo his own way through the bits of Hydra he could remember. I don't know if it would overload the story by introducing Wakanda here - but perhaps instead of T'Challa, the character introduced is Nakia, who is investigating a human trafficking route which eventually leads her to Hydra +/- the Red Room. I feel like this would give a lead-in to another movie introducing T'Challa, as well as tie in nicely with Nat's movie. Alternatively, the original T'Challa story could still be used here but with Zola pulling the strings instead of Zemo.
Ideally the movie should address all the experiments that has now been established in canon - Steve's Project Rebirth, Bucky (and the other PoWs), Isaiah and his squad, the source of Howard's serum, and Bruce, and discuss the eugenics beliefs driving them, and the fact that this belief still thrives in a lot of American institutions. I'd like to see Steve and Sam each confront this and come to terms with what it means for them personally. I want Steve, Sam and Bucky to each then choose to denounce the powers that had caused or perpetuated their traumas, including those they thought were their allies.
But I think ultimately, the message has to be one of hope and optimism. There is a possibility of rebuild and renewal and change. It's Steve saying "My faith is in people, and for the most part they haven't let me down"; it's Sam saying "What would be the point of all the pain and sacrifice if I wasn't willing to stand up and keep fighting?"; it's Bucky saying...well canon him hasn't really been given the chance to say much, but what about letting Bucky show that he - very much like Steve and Sam beside him - believes in hope and goodness and that was why he could survive all that time and still come out the other end a good person? And this would also be why Sam does pick up the shield later, because despite all he has seen he still believes a better tomorrow is possible.
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awnterslder · 3 years ago
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Can you tell us more about what James would have written in his journal between the end of catws and cacw?
honestly there’s probably a lot of stuff that he’s jotted down between the end of c.atws and c.acw ! this’ll sorta be like a mix between general thoughts / headcanons and some entries he’d write. ( and this is my thank you to all my mutuals i get to throw headcanons around with, especially when talking about his past 😌💕 y’all have shaped this bucky to how he’s written today and i love him so much )
under the cut because i’m rambling !
at first, the journal wasn’t really to document memories and the whole journey to self-discovery ( of who he was in the past ). from where he’d left steve by the water to bucharest is definitely not a short distance away. he took the journal keep track of sights, note if he thinks he’s being watched. he’s not entirely in the best mental state, and towards the last couple decades as tws, his time outside of cryo was probably very limited.
then there’d be the first few flashes of old memories — triggered either by time or by his senses. saw something that reminded him of someone he knew, smelled something familiar that he or someone ( perfumes, foods, ... but you know when there’s a particular smell in the air that reminds you of a specific day? like something in the air reminded him of walking home one night with someone close to him. he was smiling then, he thinks. ), heard a song he once knew. these first few entries are quite short and to the point. not entire sentences or page-long journal entries. he was on the run, he was in hiding — didn’t really have time to write everything down. half the time he’s standing; he’s jotting down quick notes and moving on.
entries are very vague but they make sense to him. never meant for other people to read anyway, so as long as they made sense to him, it didn’t really matter.
entry on taste ( after meeting sonia ( mentioned later ) in bucharest. ): she let me taste test dinner. she’s called MAMA SONIA by some locals.
entry on smell ( some undisclosed location ): lavender. home, somehow.
entry on sound: vera lynn recording. the andrews sisters.
others tba bc i can’t exactly think of the other entries at the moment :’) like james, visuals and memories come and go lol i’ll write them down when i think of them.
after some memories were triggered, james decides to find out more on who he was before tws. he was someone’s son once, a brother to three younger sisters and to his friends, he was a respected soldier and sergeant. hydra took those memories from him, and it took them a damn long time for them to get the winter soldier they wanted. his notes are scribbled, quotes from the museums he’s visited. saw how he used to look like for the first time in decades.
entries in museums: ( skips and shortens words to save time )
- james buchanan “bucky” barnes. born 1916, grew up oldest child of 4. 1917 – 1944 ( ??? ). discrepancy. - camp mccoy, wi. camp lehigh, nj. - 107th italian front. childhood friend, steve rogers. cpt. america. kept the suit. - best friends since childhood, bucky ( ? ) barnes and steve rogers were inseparable on both schoolyard and battlefield. barnes is the only howling commando to give his life in service of his country. - the howling commandos. 
there’s defo more entries about steve — after all, he’s his childhood friend ( or so it says in the museum blurbs ... ) ... figures that he’d be an important person to know. perhaps could trigger other memories. also has entries on whatever he could find out about the howlies. entries on old war movies that included cap, the howlies, and that time steve was advertising war bonds.
finds himself hiding in bucharest, romania after some time. meets sonia ( she’s not a canon character, but i imagined her to be the one selling him plums. here’s a small collection of visuals i have of them interacting !! and here’s another headcanon for them. ) i’d also imagine that james is easily influenced by his surroundings. used to adapting, consciously or not. after staying in romania for some time, and knowing the language, some of his journal entries and notes are written in romanian. the only other language this is probably most likely to happen is in russian, if he were to come across old hydra documents.
in bucharest after probably a year, his entries get a lot longer. he’s finished his museum trips and reading what he can. his journal is kinda like one of those messy bullet journals that just has everything written in it. whether it’s things he has to pick up for sonia, for himself, topics that were talked about, notes about some people he’s known through sonia, triggered memories, his nightmares, thoughts and phrases that just pop in his mind or that he’s said aloud without knowing the reason why. there’s a lot of visuals he could’ve written down in his journals — thinking of his sisters and not even remembering their names. describing what they looked like before he forgets again. mention of his parents are included. mentions of what he remembers of hydra, siberia, dept. x, the red room. of course he’s mentioned natasha. perhaps some other widows as well. ( notes on widows and other winter soldiers are for another time i think :’) )
( short ) entries in romania:
- “don’t look, becks.” ???? ( headcanon with @unexceptional ♡ hi ily ) ** he’s said this before on other occasions, but hasn’t written it down until now. - dinner with sonia. pick up onions. - recipe: ciorba de perisoire - peeled orange in one slice. ( headcanon with @spiderwoman. ♡ i mean he could’ve just sliced it ... but some part of him told him it was better this way. another memory triggered through taste eating something like an apple or orange. )
later, his entries become more just ... general journal entries. it’s slowly shifting from trying to remember the kind of person he used to be ... turning into writing down stuff he’s learnt about himself now. there’s a small realization that he won’t ever be the same ‘bucky’ he was before the fall. so for now, he’s referring himself as ‘james’.
he’s defo written more between the end of endgame and post-tfatws. journaling seems to become a little more infrequent post-tfatws depending on the verse ( to which i have many !! ). but that’s a whole ‘nother thing to think about.
there’s definitely more that i’m missing here but that haven’t come to mind. but just the smallest reminder that this bucky is canon divergent and headcanon-heavy; i pull inspo from both the mcu and comics. :’) just about all of this is just speculation and headcanons except for the museum entries which are just quotes. i just like thinking about things that maybe explain how bucky thinks and perceives things, and thinking about the events that influenced the person he is at a particular point in time ♡ thank you anon for letting me ramble and being interested in knowing what i think he would’ve written !! i’ve actually been thinking about this for a while ... but this gave me the kick i needed to actually sit down and write it lol.
small note that particular entries including my mutuals’ muses are all in their own verses, but i love them sm i had to include some note of it :’)
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feathersofvibranium · 4 years ago
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// sam wilson physicality meta/headcanons:
just gonna dump a bunch of stuff i think fits him but especially for my muse because im in far too deep and can’t stop now this is absolutely a sam wilson appreciation post but specifically about his stupidly hot body and how it works
he voluntarily joined the experimental Falcon program (pre-catws) - how many humans (not mutants, iron man suits, etc) that fly on just a set of mechanical wings were there before the program? that’s right, none - ive had a headcanon since catws where tony stark created the program on the side because pararescuemen (what sam did before joining the falcon program) saved him from the desert (1st iron man movie meta) check it out here (tfatws confirmed Falcon wings are stark tech!!) - we know sam wasn’t the only one in the program. we know there were casualties/deaths (re: sam’s wingman riley) - sam is clearly not over riley but he got back on the wings because captain america needed his help regardless. he is well aware of the inherent dangers. went for it anyway.
i don’t think fans give enough credit to how much time and effort it would take for a human to be able to fly around as he did as the Falcon?? - like imagine a bird. they steer with their wings. unless there’s some sorta brain signal reading chip in his falcon googles, im 99.9% sure his wing control isn’t directly done from his brain. which means that shit’s all done from his SHOULDERS/BACK MUSCLES - imagine a bird, part 2. tails. sam’s CORE/ABS/HIPS/LOWER SPINE/LEGS/FEET are the equivalent to bird’s tail when he’s out flying. imagine how much he needs those muscles to be strong enough to do barrel rolls and crazy maneuvers in mid air. strong af. (also good to have those muscles for some more homey activities too amirite *coughs*)
see that ‘voluntarily’ used up there in the first bullet? he signed up for this shit himself - as in he saw the opportunity to be a daredevil and just. went and did the thing. also means he wasn’t drafted.
imagine how many times he fell/crashed/blacked out in the air and fell outta the sky during the falcon training - imagine him having all sorts of wounds and scars on his body from just trying to fly and a lot of the time not being successful at it, until he finally does. probably used to having his own body thrown around so much so that what the winter soldier did to him on the helicarrier wasn’t even that much of a threat (i mean, sure, scary af mf but sam has experience being thrown around and knows how to stay calm and rational even in those situations)
how many (flying) birds do you know has more muscles than being built light-weight for flight? - this may be just me but i hc that before the tfatws training montage, sam wilson’s physcial training focused more on enhancing his cardio/heart (we see him running. a lot)/flexibility/shortening reaction time, ie, ones that are ideal for and benefit flying, NOT beefing up muscles - probably eats like a bird (among other things small bits throughout the day rather than full meals) - tfatws training montage is definitely for beefing up muscles and learning more close quarter combat, which he has knowledge of from the pararescue days (ie, ask rumlow) but not to this extent. because he’s gotta get ready to be Cap. he’s not a super soldier and has no super human powers or super strength but he has a cool new suit that allows for more.....muscles because well, cap can’t disappoint on the muscles front, right? - probably eats a lot more less like a bird.. or a very beefy bird
he went up against the winter soldier and then mindcontrolled bucky and survived all encounters - if you don’t think he’s gonna count that as a (weird) flex, you’re prob wrong
brought a 2in pocket knife to a gun fight and came out of that alive, unharmed, and with a gun
point being, whether he has a danger kink (don’t kink shame) or just happens to find himself in danger, a lot, he’s risen to the challenge every time. mostly by improving what he can do and how he can help others. he’s not weak by any means. he has taken a lot of hits and gotten back up each time.
tldr; this post only focused on his body and not even on any of his other overqualified skills. sam wilson (and his body) is an underappreciated gift and does not need super powers to be the most fitting person to take over as cap Sam Wilson is absolutely Captain America
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complexhaystack · 4 years ago
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Random thoughts about FATWS 1.05:
- Isaiah Bradley's story is heartbreaking and also tragically not new :( It's a terribly sad juxtaposition to what Steve could do and get away with because, race. But I'm glad we got to listen to that conversation with Sam, and how that reinforced Sam's decision to move forward in the current era.
- Sam is such a good counsellor... How he interacted with Karli in 1.04 and how he helped Bucky realise how his inner peace could be achieved was amazing :)
- Bucky smiling peacefully in the Wilsons' neighbourhood :')
- Bucky flirting with Sarah and annoying Sam
- Bucky easily doing great repair work ambidextrously and annoying Sam
- #justacoupleofguys
- Sam's training matched with Henry Jackman's Louisiana Hero soundtrack was awesome
- I like how we see that Bucky's projections on Sam's action to give away the shield is resolved in this episode... And that he apologised for not seeing Sam's difficulties as a white man. Surely he was still pretty pissed at the beginning when he dropped the shield next to Sam after the fight with Walker
- THE FIGHT WITH WALKER O_O
- Walker is truly a man with a fragile ego and pride. How dare he lie to Lemar's family even! (But kudos to Wyatt Russell for portraying him so intensely!)
- I just can't help but wonder how many times Sebastian Stan and Daniel Bruhl might have broken out into laughter at the memorial (considering how chaotic Bruhl is irl HAHA)
- The gun scene was quite meaningful I think - it seemed to be Bucky's way of telling Zemo 'I am a super soldier and I was programmed, but I am no longer a killer'
- Ayo called Bucky White Wolf again yay!
- Sam is truly the right successor to Steve :') In spirit, character and just sheer commitment to doing good. (As much as I love Bucky, let the 106 year old man rest)
- Who the heck are Valentina and Batroc *googles* (OK clearly I haven't been tracking very well. He's the dude who got defeated at the beginning of CATWS AND FATWS hahaha) (and Agents of SHIELD connections, really? Wow)
- Also, at some point in time probably anyone who is someone in Hollywood will be in the MCU hahaha
- More googling has made me realise Torres is likely to be the next Falcon!
- When will they tell us what happened to old!Steve and why the heck he abandoned Bucky Barnes
- Bucky getting the Wakandans must mean he has their phone number or something
- Do the Wakandans have every Avenger's fingerprints (considering how Sam opened the briefcase) - and is that his Cap suit?!?!?!
I admit I found the pacing in this episode and 1.02 a bit strange but I am still loving the show dearly. Gotta rewatch all of it at some point!
Please let FATWS have a second season Kevin Feige!!! Also please release all the bloopers and BTS... These chaotic four dudes (including Bruhl and Russell) must have had a lot of hilarious times on set!!
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lifesucksheres20bucks · 4 years ago
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THOUGHTS I HAD FOR THE FINALE OF TFATWS
**spoilers**
- Im not me tally ready for this
- Lmao batroc i fucking forgot
- What am i going to do for 2 months with no marvel content rip
- Not ready to say goodbye to my babies
- No fly zone except for the falcon 😏
- Im gonna miss bucky
- OOP SHARON
- CAPTAIN AMERICA BABY
- L’HABIT ME FAIT PAS ME MOINE
- I CANT
- I want sharon to flex her french
- Oop karli
- Aww buck
- Karli got no chill
- Motorcycle bucky is my favourite
- Ok sharon u got some tricks up your sleeve
- SHIELD TRICKS
- AUREVOIR I CANT
- Those new vibranium wings are pretty sexy
- OMG A NEW RED WING
- She good?
- Karli losing her grip there
- Sam helping cops lol
- Motorcycle buck gives me serotonin
- Okay bucky just fly
- HAHAHAHHAHA I CANT
- I FORGOT HE EXISTED
- DIY SHIELD I CANT
- OMG REDEMPTION BUCKY
- Superhero landing
- Bucky is officially a superhero:)
- Now was that smart sam
- Omg the helicopter scene really reminded me of catws
- Just leave john no one invited you
- John doesnt want to kill people, only kill karli
- This is in nyc where spiderman lol
- Fake cap tried, real cap completed the job.
- Thats my captain america
- YES HE IS
- SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
- fucking batroc lol
- Jpu capable du quebecois
- Ew bucky and walmart cap
- No thank you
- Oop sharon
- Sharon what are you up to
- Ugh her being the powerbroker makes no sense
- Rip gsp
- I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY BABY
- fuck off john dont use speeches
- Only steve
- “Not when you say it” exactly
- Karli needs a hug and help
- Oopsy
- I mean this made sense for her
- This was her only way
- He looked like an angel
- My angel cap
- “Captain falcon”
- Yes my fucking captain america
- Oop sam with the sexy speeches
- I love him so fucking much
- The little turtleneck part of his suit is uhhh questionable
- They really said we will focus on racism and theres nothing you can do about it and I appreciate that
- Isaiah :’)
- Bucky is like “yeah thats my boyfriend”
- “Nice job cap” 🥲
- Yes the suit looks good!
- All of them to the raft???? With zemo??
- Oop
- Whos the old guy? Zemos bitch right?
- Ah zemo 🥰
- VAL
- I dont want to see new walker
- Nope
- Why is the wife still with him like ew
- Ugh new suit for trash
- US AGENT STOP EW GOODBYE
- God imma cry
- Fuck
- Hes so protective of bucky 🥲
- IM CRYING
- his fucking voice crack
- Omg did he get her a fucking gift
- I cant
- Buckyyyyy
- HE GAVE STEVES BOOK AWAY
- Eli !!
- Isaiah!!
- Eli plssss i need you as the patriot
- Flexing ur muscles isaiah okayy
- The banter 😌
- Eli pls
- Pls tease me a patriot
- THEY MADE AN EXHIBIT FOR ISAIAH
- NOOO IM CRYING
- HOLY FUCK
- sam is truly the purest human
- BUCKY ACTING LIKE THE DRUNK UNCLE
- I LOVE THAT JOIRNEY FOR HIM
- NOW KISS
- That was a little fruity
- CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE WINTER SOLDIER
- FUCK YES BITCH
- Deja vu lol
- man im sad they didnt kiss
- Sharon aww
- Agent carter huh
- Yass queen girl boss
- Take down the government
- We love to see it
WERE GETTING A 4TH CAL MOVIE AHHHHHHHHHH
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Voice, agency and power in the Smithsonian scene in CATWS
I wrote a post yesterday about the symbology of pictures in the Smithsonian scene of CATWS, and I mentioned a topic that now I feel like exploring more.
In yesterday’s post I argued that the scene contrasts how Peggy is seen as older (both in the 50s footage and in the parallel scene where Steve visits her in person), in color, and we actually hear her speak, both in the footage and in person; and how Bucky is seen in pictures and wordless footage, “frozen” (eh) in the 40s, and even when we meet him in person he’s literally muted and stuck in the appearance and age he had in the 40s because he was literally frozen for most of the time that has passed since then.
Then I was chatting with @winterofthedarkestlight​​ and it occurred to me that the contrast goes beyond just Peggy and Bucky.
I once saw a video that analyzed the use of music in the MCU and it argued that the Smithsonian scene should have eliminated the museum voice that narrates Steve’s and Bucky’s story, because it adds unnecessary “noise” since it provides information that we already know from the previous Cap movie (unless they assumed that most people didn’t actually watch it). I personally agreed with that, but yesterday I realized that the unnecessary noise actually serves a function in the logic of the scene.
There are, in fact, a lot of words in the Smithsonian scene. Quotes and captions on the walls and panels, the narrating voice, Peggy’s video. A lot of people are speaking, directly or not: Peggy, the academic team that put on the exhibition and wrote the texts, the President of the US whose quote is featured at the beginning of the scene. Two figures are silent: Steve and Bucky. Steve literally starts the scene putting his finger in front of his mouth, to ask the child who recognized him not to reveal his identity. Bucky is seen first in his solo panel, then in the footage with Steve, who figuratively also “died” in the 40s (just like the Peggy Steve knew “died” and only lives in the black and white picture in Steve’s compass). 
Steve and Bucky are silent while other people talk about them. Steve has lost control over his own narrative: he’s literally in disguise, pretending to be someone else, while the exhibition speaks about him in terms that are not Steve’s. “A symbol to the nation, a hero to the world--the story of Captain America is one of honor, bravery and sacrifice”... blah blah. Steve doesn’t have a voice, and doesn’t have agency over his figure and the meaning of his actions. He’s become a tool in the hands of the dominant power system, that pushes a certain kind of patriotic propaganda of heroism in the war against the Nazis... a shiny surface painted over a much darker reality. That’s why it’s so important that he gives his speech about what courage and heroism means for him over the intercom when they take the headquarters: he stops being silent, he uses his own voice and reclaims agency over his own narrative (in fact, by putting himself in the symbolical place of Pierce, who was the authority that would give the speeches in the building, and replacing that narrative).
Parallel to Steve’s runs Bucky’s narrative, of course. He’s been subjected to the same thing, except obviously in a more horrifying way. He’s been robbed of control over his narrative, stripped of agency and stripped of his own identity to the point he doesn’t know his name (similarly, Steve is called Captain Rogers or Captain America, and when Peggy says his name in the video, she corrects herself: there’s no more space for Steve to exist).
Neither Steve or Bucky, although in (apparently) very different ways (Steve, after all, is also fighting Hydra’s battles at the beginning of the movie, Steve simply doesn’t know...), are not in control of who they are and how others perceive them. (Which is also why Steve starts the movie with a “stealth suit”, monochrome and meant not to be seen, and later picks his old suit which is meant to be seen and recognized, by Bucky but also by everyone else - “if they’re shooting at you they’re bad”, he tells Sam, which also translates in “if they’re shooting at me and you, a walking flag and a giant bird, they’re easily recognizable as Hydra agents”.)
The scene in the Smithsonian, with the “twin” scene afterwards of Steve visiting Peggy, emphasize how the Steve-Peggy relationship can no longer happen (age gap aside), and possibly could not actually happen outside of the war even without Steve’s missed time. Because Peggy has a voice; she’s one of the figures who has agency, and, while she’s no longer in the business because she’s gotten too old and sick for it, she’s held power through a large portion of her life. She’s one of the speakers; she’s been one of those holding control over the narrative (of Steve, among the rest). Again, her responsibility over Hydra’s flourishing (and, more or less indirectly, over what happened to Bucky) inside of Shield through the decades should have been addressed in the third Cap movie, because it’s just something that had a lot of narrative potential. I’m not saying she should have been framed as a villain, but at least re-framed in a more critical way: Fury was not a villain in CATWS but still acknowledged he was part of the problem, and took a step back and handed the reins to Steve. The narrative never acknowledges that the original Shield founders were part of the problem, and CACW instead makes a nonsensical mess of a plot (if we can even call it a plot, because it goes nowhere and is just a pretext for Tonypain) with Howard Stark and just kills Peggy off screen and uses another woman to send through her words because women are interchangeable, so.
Anyway. CATWS suggests, at least, that Peggy is on the sides of the ones who have a voice, thus power. Steve, on the other hand, doesn’t share that experience at all (and you know what Steve thinks about shared life experience and relationships), but he instead shares Bucky’s experience of silence and loss of control over his own identity and purpose. Again, while the ways Hydra uses the two of them are very different, they’re genuinely just two sides of the same coin, because Steve starts the movie just as much as a pawn of the system, he just has the material, physical, emotional and cognitive tools (including the support of Natasha and Sam) to break out of it earlier. (Can you believe CACW doesn’t actually give Bucky a single chance to actually... face... Hydra at all. I’m not saying he should have gotten revenge because that’s not a good narrative, but he deserved to get some closure in regards of his abusers, instead of getting more abuse and just getting to suffer because of what he’s suffered before.)
I’ll finish this post here because I have accidentally entered the not-civil-war-friendly zone and we don’t need me ranting again today, but I just wanted to say how fascinating it is that such a small scene like the Smithsonian visit can hold so many layers. They just don’t make ‘em like they used to, uh.
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margokesses · 4 years ago
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That last post i made makes me realize that i lowkey wish that the mcu did the whole secret identity thing. Because some of y'all really think that steve rogers is this "sweet pure innocent man" when that's really captain america. Like the whole "sweetheart that you can bring home to your parents" thing is something that captain america does not steve rogers. Its a "front" that steve made for himself bc as cap he was originally a propaganda piece so of course he had to be all innocent and pg rated to win over the public and get them to sign up for the war. But steve rogers?? That's not who he is at all. Steve would definitely do stupid dares and curse and say vulgar things. Steve would jump out a window bc someone bet him $20 to do it.
Like this is even evident in the films as well. In catws he gets angry at nat and makes jokes with sam but when he's in shield headquarters and he talks to pierce and fury and the strike team there's definitely an air of "professionalism" when cap talks and does things. In cacw in the beginning when sam, nat, and wanda are joking steve as cap says "focus on the mission" but if it was just a regular mission steve would joke along with them. In iw and endgame he's more "free spirited" bc he is no longer cap. He says what's on his mind with no filter and just does things bc damn the consequences.
Now I'm not saying the steve and cap identities can't overlap. There are times where it does (steve giving out directions in iw before they suit up) but i wish that y'all would stop living in 2012 avengers fanfic and examine these films on more than just a surface level
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amberandmetal · 6 years ago
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Thoughts on Endgame
Spoilers under the cut
Let’s start with the negatives to get it out of the way, yeah?
I can not believe they didn’t fix the travesty that was Loki’s death in IW. That big of a character? That character arc? A character that was only supposed to be a one movie villain yet became one of the most beloved characters of the entire MCU? You fully expect us to believe that the end of such an amazing character would be going at Thanos with a dagger and being killed off in the beginning of a movie? Like he was nothing? Insulting to Loki, insulting to the fans.
I can understand why they killed Nat instead of Clint, although I was fuming during that scene, I did not cry one bit, I was that pissed off. And yeah maybe the patriarchy has made me bitter and resentful but all I could think of was “You really gonna do that? Kill off the only female Avenger of the original 6?” and especially after how they have treated her character, giving her a new personality every movie. It didn’t feel right. Would’ve made more sense (to me at least) for Hawkeye to take the plunge and for Nat to dissappear at the end of the movie, just leaving never to be heard of again. It feels more in line with their characters. But maybe that’s just me.
Thor. Don’t even get me started on the dumpsterfire that is Thor’s character. Up until Ragnarök he was consistent, he made sense. Then ragnarök came and turned both Thor and Loki into cartoons, a character development that made no sense. And now the Russos finished Taika’s work by putting the final nail in Thor’s characterisation coffin by making him a parody of himself. And also, I am deeply dissapointed in the MCU for turning obesity into a joke. “Look, a fat Thor, how funny, ha-ha.” Oh, and let’s not forget that apparently panic attacks are comedy gold as well. Thor is not this cartoon comic relief and I will deny anything Thor related post-AOU until my dying day. 
They fucking screwed Banner in much the same way. They turned him into a buffon and a comic relief.
I actually had a feeling Steve would find a way back into the 40′s and settle down with Peggy. And even though I think that’s a perfect ending for him, to finally get what he wanted (because yeah Steggy is canon, Peggy is the love of Steve’s life, and Stucky and Stony are fanon, get it straight (badum-tss) people/ sincerely a Stony shipper), it raises way too many questions about the timelines. If Steve stayed with Peggy then wouldn’t that create a different timeline because even though a second Steve would still get woken from the ice in 70 years, there is Peggy and the husband and children she never had that she in the “normal” timeline already had. And if so then our Steve is in a different timeline so how tf did he end up in the “normal” timeline all those years later, like an old man. How did he swap timelines? Or does the Russos have another explanation for what happened with Steve’s time fiddling?
Tony’s death. I still haven’t cried about it because it’s so surreal. It’s like my heart mind won’t accept it. I love how they gave him the final line from the first Iron man movie as his last one ever, but it still.. yeah I can’t really go into it because I haven’t fully processed it yet. Joe Russo being a doctor in CATWS and now he was a survivor in group? Are we supposed to think it’s the same character? He didn’t act like it? Like what was that?
And for all of you complaining about how “Steve would never leave Bucky behind”, did you not catch on when Bucky said “I’m going to miss you”? I mean clearly Steve would not do something like this without talking it through with Bucky first and I can imagine Steve asked if Bucky wanted to do the same, and Bucky refusing. He has suffered way more trauma than Steve, plus a dude with a metal arm in the forties? Schyeah, no. And yeah, Steve did say to Sam that he “got to thinking” or something like that, like the decision was made when he was already back there, but maybe that’s just something he says to Sam. You don’t think Sam would feel hurt or left out if he found out Steve had planned on doing this without telling him? And Bucky fucking knew. Or else he wouldn’t have told Sam to “Come on, go on” to go over to Steve, otherwise Bucky would have fucking gone first. He wasn’t surprised. So either they talked about it beforehand, or they didn’t because they didn’t have to, but Bucky knew.
And lastly my thoughts on the time line conundrum: So let’s call the standard timeline timeline 1, and our original Steve for Steve 1. So Steve 1 goes back in time to be with Peggy, creating Timeline 2 (so the Sam and Bucky he goes to visit shouldn’t be Timeline 1 Sam and Bucky but Timeline 2 Sam and Bucky, but somehow he skipped?), how does this work when Steve 2 gets brought back from the ice and goes to find Peggy, who in this timeline is married to Steve 1? And then when Steve 2 inevitably finds himself in the same Endgame scenario as Steve 1 had done, he will go back in time in Timeline 2. Will that create a Timeline 3 and so on and so forth to eternity? Or will he find himself a.k.a Steve 1 already there with Peggy at the moment where Timeline 1 broke off into Timeline 2?... This is giving me a headache and needs it’s own individual post.. 
Okay now let’s get to the good stuff
I love  my blue queen. Nebula is just amazing. And I love how they brought Gamora back because this Gamora who hadn’t left Thanos and joined the GOTG yet will just bring so much to the next GOTG movie and I am HERE FOR IT.
The scene where everyone came back. Do I need to say more? Best fucking scene in the entire MCU. I cried like full on ugly crying, with the noises and shaking and “fuckfuckfuck what is going on onscreen, everything is blurry!” So powerful.
Our all female attack group to help Danvers get through the masses of alien scum (hell yeah, I’m biased). My heart literally exploded into sunshine and rainbows.
 This deserves two bulletpoints. The female badassery!
Steve-motherfucking-Rogers picking up Mjölnir. Steve-motherfucking-Rogers is hella worthy.
The cinematography is just insane.
How wellmade the scenes in 2012 were? All the new scenes and angles we got to see and just, wow.
They managed to keep all these different timelines, stories and characters in time with each other in a way that it didn’t feel scattered and it all made sense.
Peter being a flailing potato teenager when he came back and the look  on Tony’s face.
Morgan Stark.
Stan Lee’s cameo.
Tony getting some closure with Howard.
Pepper Potts kicking ass and taking names in her own suit.
Rocket being a sassmaster (as well as Nebula “Watch out. There’s an idiot on the landsite.”)
The reconcileation between Cap and Tony. (Still lamenting the absence of the hug we all deserved but hey, what u gonna do?)
Valkyrie on her fucking winged horse, oh my fucking god I think the last hetero in me went belly up at that moment.
Carol- fucking- Danvers.
Frigga.
Tony checking out Steve’s ass. “That is America’s ass”
The Steve x Steve fight? New kink activated, just saying.
I’m sure there are more points and I will update this when I think of them, but this is what I got so far. And even though there’s a lot that pissed me off I am still very much happy with it and just in awe. I’m sad but.. yeah this was a good ending.
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/post/184221536620/i-hate-the-russo-brothers-i-hate-the-russo why do u hate the russo bros ??
i posted that after seeing the endgame spoilers that came out after the world premiere last week, and while i regret and am apologizing for saying bad things about the movie before seeing it, i stand by this post because i really have not liked them post catws. the short answer to this question is that it really seems like they don’t care about what happened with their characters in the movies preceding theirs and ruin a lot of the really good characterization other directors had. plus they have very much contributed to the poor treatment of female characters but that’s kind of an mcu staple. it really seems like for every one good thing the russos do, they do about ten more bad things.
the long answer to this question is going under the cut because i am 100% going to rant and i am sorry but this is really gonna get into my unpopular marvel opinions and it will include endgame spoilers (they will be marked though). read at your own risk, i will try to warn if there is any “anti” characters or something. 
examples of how they ruin the characterizations other directors set in place:
wanda. look i’m just gonna say it now i don’t care for mcu wanda (even without discussing her whitewashing) so if you don’t want to read something written by someone who doesn’t like her, skip this bullet point … in age of ultron, wanda WAS WILLINGLY WORKING FOR A NAZI ORGANIZATION AND UNLEASHED THE HULK ON AN INNOCENT CITY AND PUT THINGS IN TONY’S HEAD THAT LED HIM TO CREATE ULTRON. in age of ultron though, it was fairly clear that the avengers didn’t fully trust wanda and pietro when they “switched sides” but immediately in civil war, the russos wrote it as if none of that happened. i would like mcu wanda so much more if she was given a real redemption arc, like loki in ragnarok, letting her answer for the things she previously did and proving that she is trustworthy and a true ally. the avengers immediately pardoned her, so much that it wasn’t even talked about clint is exempt because pietro saved his life and a child’s life and thus felt responsible for wanda because the russos just really want to get the brownie points for including a female hero that isn’t black widow
tony in civil war. they made it pretty obvious that tony was supposed to be an antagonist or at least someone you should root against. whether you were team cap or team iron man or you didn’t care because it was so stupid the movie was written pretty clearly to favor team cap and make tony look awful … even though he had a perfectly valid and reasonable argument for signing the sokovia accords … i mean they really do need to be held accountable for all of the destruction they cause. and yeah i agreed with cap too because they shouldn’t relinquish all control to the government, but the russos wrote it so that tony looked like the bad guy, when he really reallyyyyyy wasn’t
thor. poor, poor, beautiful thor. in ragnarok, thor went through a major character arc that allowed him to see that he is more than just the person who can wield mjolnir because he has had the power and strength to be a hero within him all along, then BAM russos say screw that in infinity war and make him go off on this whole mission that really was a waste of time to get a weapon that he doesn’t need to defeat thanos. yeah i’ll admit storm breaker is cool and i love that he got to build a relationship with rocket and kind of groot but it is just so unnecessary when they could have done something different to build that relationship, but it literally says fuck taika’s storyline for thor.
loki. in the first five minutes of infinity war they kill him off in the most un-loki-like way possible. taika did so much for the characters in ragnarok, giving loki a true redemption arc and adding valkyrie to the mcu as a strong and important character, but do the russos care about any of that? NOOOOOOOO.
ENGAME SPOILERS START HERE.
so they ruined steve. i am not accepting his ending. it really just is not him, because as we have seen from the past six movies, he will pretty much do anything for bucky. ANYTHING. and i know he loves peggy, peggy was the love of his life except bucky but marvel is full of cowards but he moved on from her, and she moved on from him. i mean agent carter was about peggy proving herself as more than just captain america’s girlfriend, and steve going back in time to be with peggy erases all of the character development peggy went through as well. honestly, i think the russo brothers did that because they knew people would likely be more upset with steve dying than tony dying (maybe i’m wrong, but just of all the marvel fans i know irl, they like steve more than tony. for the record, i would have been equally sad with either of their deaths because i love them both) and the russo brothers are fully aware of how big the stucky ship is, and this was their way of saying “hey, guess what? we didn’t kill steve and he is hetero, and there was Nothing There with bucky”. they made steve just reinsert himself into peggy’s life, when he KNEW she was happy without him and peggy had no choice in it. 
and as if they didnt do enough to thor in infinity war, they screwed him over EVEN MORE in endgame by making his only purpose to supply lazy fat jokes. there were so many other ways they could have depicted his depression, SO MANY WAYS, but they chose the lazy route of putting hemsworth in a fat suit and making fun of fat people the entire movie.
i can admit that they wrote carol well … but only when she was actually in the movie. i mean what she was there for maybe eight minutes?
and of course the lgbtq character was fucking joe russo as a glorified extra. queerbaiting that it was carol, thanks russos
ENDGAME SPOILERS END.
i really feel like i do need to clarify that i do love marvel and the mcu, and most of these characters just mean so much to me, but the way they are written and done dirty by the russo brothers when they were given such great developments before just ruin so much of it. and the russos actually do some great things, like as i said the rocket/groot/thor team up was awesome in infinity war, just what they were doing with said team up was undoing taika’s beautiful movie. the best way i can describe the russos is that they do one good thing for every ten bad things, and that’s that on that.
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bieddiediaz · 6 years ago
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endgame thoughts (spoilers!!)
the good
this movie was perfect fanservice. it was the most beautiful way to end the past 11 years of the mcu. it paid homage to the fans who had stuck by it through iron man (the clanging of tony’s hammer after the credits!!! the start of the mcu and the end of an era) to the snap, through twenty two movies. the entire sequence of everyone going back in time was for us, for the fans who had kept it going - the first avengers (i’ll have that drink now), hail hydra (that was so clever, honestly), frigga!!!, gamora and nebula as sisters!
clint and natasha again! this was the first time they showed their relationship properly since avengers 1, and by god did they do it justice. also! nat choosing to sacrifice herself! the agency!! this movie was honestly peak natasha and i t  b r o k e  m e.
tony calling everyone out on not listening to him! honestly, i was satisfied with thanos has been inside my head for six years because i never thought we’d get better. but! this was. ultimate. validation. purely c a t h a r t i c
nebula. nebula my love. nebula telling her past self that she can and does get better! the torture stops! nebula telling gamora that they become sisters! i died. i honestly wanted nebula to kill thanos (because i maintain that she deserved it most) but i’m okay with how it turned out. because nebula healed. before the snap, she found a family with the guardians. with gamora. after the snap - nebula and tony! tony showing her the gentleness that thanos never did. tony teaching her games like a father should his daughter! having nicknames for her! her dressing him and putting him into the seat when she though he was about to die k i l l e d me. also - nebula and rhodey! nebula being comfortable enough with him to call him rhodey. them bonding over being broken!!! perfect victim survival story. i love nebula okay
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE. i have been waiting for this line since aou. steve getting ready to face thanos alone! with a broken shield! the avengers - all the avengers - as a team. against thanos. what they should have been the first time. such 616 feels
i know people are upset carol didn’t have more screentime, but i wasn’t that bothered by it honestly. this wasn’t her moment to shine. her story is just starting. this movie is homage to the heroes we’ve known for ten years, to tony and steve and natasha and clint and bruce and thor, whose stories are closing. they deserved to be the ones who saved the universe. this movie was theirs.
special mention for carol’s comics-esque lesbian haircut.
scott and cassie single-handedly broke my heart and healed it back together again.
sam being the new cap! it’s everything he deserves! (i do what he does, only slower)
and
and
of course
tony
tony stark
tony my love. tony my boy. i love you 3000 okay. you were the shining star of this movie. you are the shining star of my life.
how do i even begin to describe this. tony’s arc was perfect. (i once though cacw was peak tony, and then i thought iw was peak tony, but this movie outdid them all)
of course i’m mad that he died. i don’t think there’s a universe where tony stark deserves to die. tony stark, the futurist, the heart and soul of the mcu, deserves to live. with pepper and peter and morgan and rhodey. he deserves all the happiness in the world.
but
if they had to kill him, if i had to pick one way for tony to die, i couldn’t have picked a better one. he died saving the entire fucking universe. they were losing. thanos had the gauntlet. tony is the reason they won. tony wielded the fucking gauntlet. tony killing thanos and his army (tony dusting thanos!) the same way thanos killed trillions of people - also extreme catharsis. tony stark couldn’t protect the universe, but he damn well avenged it. (tony stans, we got ultimate validation. anyone who dares say tony is selfish or tHe reAl vILLaIn oF tHe mCu now is completely invalid.)
tony being bitter about being right! all this time (a suit of armour around the world), and no one listening to him when he tried to warn them. tony realising they lost because they were split apart (i needed you and you weren’t here. liar.). he found his second chance with morgan and pepper. he didn’t jump back into the fray because his ~teammates asked him to, but because he had a chance to save everyone. to save peter. peak. selfless. tony. stark. tony forgiving steve (giving him the shield that he! made!!) because he knew they had to do this together. i was afraid it would happen too quickly, or the stevetony conflict would be brushed under the rug for ~universe reasons, but they handled it really well. it took five years of moving on and healing for them to reconcile. steve trusting tony (since steve not trusting tony was the thing that started the entire shitshow in the first place) and tony forgiving steve (steve left. steve abandoned everything the avengers stood for). i loved it okay.
tony’s funeral absolutely ended me. i burst into sobs at proof that tony stark has a heart. everyone was there. proof that tony stark was fucking loved and respected by literally everyone. (also, that funeral seemed like a private thing. people who had known tony stark. which means - either friday or pepper let harley in. which means - tony told pepper about harley and how important he was and/or they kept in touch!! excuse me while i go cry even more)
okay
now
the bad
i honestly didn’t have many complaints with this movie, it was such a perfect ending. just two major things -
team as family. they really tried to lean into this trope, but it fell flat after not establishing it over the past avengers movies. i could have bought it if they showed some bonding moments when they were preparing for their missions, but they tried to tell us instead of show us. jokes and quips are fine, but emotional bonding moments/conversations needed to happen more. nat was the only one who seemed like she really considered the avengers as her family. (tony did at one point, but i think that illusion was shattered for him after cacw.)
i… don’t even want to talk about this. this is exactly what i was dreading. i can’t believe the same directors who gave us catws gave us this. steve’s ending was disrespectful to peggy. to sharon. to steve himself. peggy made a life for herself. it’s super disrespectful to suggest that peggy motherfucking carter would settle for anything other than the very best, whether it be her job or her life or her husband. why retcon all that to make her dance with this guy she knew for a few months. it’s super unhealthy for steve. for all the preaching about moving on he did, he himself admits that he hasn’t. a logical, healthy conclusion to his story would be to have him finally do it. instead, apparently he hasn’t moved on from something that happend thirteen years ago, let alone the snap. ugh. what do i even say. (and there’s the tiny little matter that this implies steve made out with his niece. unless he created an alternate timeline. which he clearly didn’t. since he’s there. in the same universe.) of course steve deserves to be happy!! but his arc - which began in catws - should be him moving on. finding a new family. not regressing back to things that should be done and gone.
also, it doesn’t make sense plot wise. did steve hide from the rest of the world? did he live in secret? if no, why would howard keep looking for him in the ocean? he wouldn’t. he wouldn’t have found the tesseract. or dethawed steve’s body in the future. did he hide his name from his family? no, right? then sharon knew?? that she was kissing her uncle? idek man
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Prompt about Sam gaining the infamous dad bod from all the snacks and home cooked meals he’s been getting but he’s in denial about it and now his suit is fitting a bit snug on him.
//I meeean.. if this is meant to be for his Cap suit, let’s all be real here and he’d *never* let himself go that far as to forsake the duties and responsibilities he picked up and is carrying an entire nation on his (regular human) shoulders
// if it’s noooot though, heck yes. Sam the dad bod Falcon (pre-tfatws pre-catws; something like 20y/o?) when he’s on vacation because the man loves food and cooking and baking almost as much as he’s willing to give up orange juice by the jug
“Hey, Sarah!” Sam’s unmistakable voice drifted towards the living room of the Lousiana home. “C’mere for a sec!”
He’s only home visiting for Christmas, or what would amount to Christmas if it still counted in February. The Air Force may not keep such a tight schedule but the Falcon program sure did. He was glad to get to spend any time at all right here, at home, where he’s missed his sister (not so much her “boyfriend”).. and undoubtedly, her cooking. Even Riley came over to visit for two days.
For the last two weeks, he’s done his due diligence going on routine jogs, push-ups, bodyweight training, and even power-walks, but now, standing in front of the half-sized bedroom mirror he’s finding the Falcon wings getting tight around his shoulders, the back support digging in uncomfortably, and his rock-solid abs losing their definition.
“Sarah, you know I love you and your cooking but I got a serious job to do when I go back.”
“When are you going back?” The feminine voice drifted back towards him without sight of the speaker, perhaps as a mask of emotions that she did not want to reveal. 
“Got a training day next week and then going back in full blast eight days from now.” He let his lifted shirt drop back down and decided to seek out the location of this mysterious sister of his.
//also yes this is before Riley went and did a dumb thing
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usuallydeepcoffee · 3 years ago
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!!!! For the music!!! "Let You Love Me" by Rita Ora and "Fight Song" by Rachel Platten, 100%. Total Steve songs. I always imagine them with him in it😩👌
Also, "Hard to Kill" by Beth Crowley (a lot of her songs have super cool vibes, I highly recommend), "Little Me" by Little Mix and "Renegades" by X Ambassadors (we could make a whole Playlist with all these🤭)
And and and, as a bonus, "Sucker" by the Jonas Brothers as SamSteve song🙌
👀👀 (or well, I guess 👂👂)
djfjksd Let you Love me gives me such Hot Currency!Steve vibes. Steve, who has a lot of meaningful connections with his teammates but alas.... his heart is somewhere else with Peggy
Oh I love Fight Song! Fun fact but where I live this song is used in a commercial for menstrual pads so I've never a.listened to the whole song and b.thought to associate it with Steve 😂😂
Oof, you're right, I love the vibe of Hard to Kill! Really suits a badass like Steve. Love it!!
So I let the rumors Turn me into a legend 'Cause I'm only human But a good myth is hard to kill
Oh I know Renegades! It's such a fitting song for Steve and Cap team on the run!
Little Me gives me makes me think of that scene from CATWS where Steve and Nat are at Camp Leigh and Steve sees his pre-serum self in a memory😍
I also love the SamSteve bonus! I feel like it's hard to find songs that fit specific pairings, but this one is spot on.
Look at that, we have a whole playlist!
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thesharondefenseleague · 4 years ago
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Ok my biggest gripe with civil war ( the movie not comic) is there obviously one right side with that conflict. Like before the movie even starts. Even if it was a Avengers movie as opposed to a cap movie. Because this whole franchise is about superheroes in the traditional sense these multiple Paragons in their own right who enact vigilante justice based on their own strict moral code. If they have to be kept in check by an administrative body who organizes it then the genre can't be 1/2
traditional superhero anymore. And so unless you want as a franchise to move in that direction the accords have to be a bad idea. They can't be right in a world where you have to have traditional superheroes. So team cap has to win. If you give Tony valid points on any level ( which you must to a degree for this conflict) its valid criticism a discomfort towards superheroes being vigilantes in a franchise that will do nothing to alter that discomfort and celebrate that vigilantism. 2/2 pt1
So in the end this conflict is pointless. Its a bit like Tony's we have to build a suit of armor around the world vs Caps the de escalation is better. Our world is not the MCU. The MCU has to escalate things because its a actiony superhero story. The world has to be at stake at some point because it's a superhero story. The other characters don't know that for sure but you the audience does. Not all conflicts in our world can be meaningful in the MCU. Writers don't always consider that 2/2pt 2
Why was my first take on your ask that AoU did CW better than CW.
Markus/McFeely were the worst writers to be given such a weighty story, because the comic event had fully reshaped the comics and the direction they went in. Everything had to change because of this. And they can’t be trusted with that. It worked for CATFA because that story was seventy years divorced from the current time that IM and the others were in. They couldn’t even write a movie that kept canon with the rest of the films - CATWS ends in SHIELD ending while a show about SHIELD agents is still being made and intends to keep making seasons. CW was the tie-in of all tie-ins for its time - you had fifty cooks in the kitchen trying to keep up with the head chef. The movie was already deemed iffy to be tackled as a third Avengers movie, but as a Cap film? And with writers who don’t care about other movies? And people were shocked that right after Thor 3 they killed everyone who was just saved at the start of Avengers 3?
And correct me if I’m wrong, did they even answer the question of who was right and who was wrong? Honestly, the answer I got from the movie is that they both suck. And movies later, they were still being all mopey and shit, and magically they get over it mid-Avengers 4 with no explanation. Because the heroes still have to answer to Ross in Avengers 3 (again, the dismantling of SHIELD was stupid because they, a government agency, were the ones in the comics the heroes had to report to, and it would’ve made all the sense, but imagine these writers and the Russos using sense in their own movies), but then they decide nah, we don’t want to, and get no repercussions even though Ross is an established person who would fully try to stop them even if the world is at stake. So the movie has their cake and eats it to, but wants you to forget that someone threw the cake on the ground a scene ago.
They’re awful writers, and CACW is an awful movie, and seriously, they never tell us who is right and who is wrong. But the writers are wrong.
~Mod R
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