#it always feels like it's the most self-aware children who say this kind of stuff. or like. not really self-aware
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rubberbandballqueen Ā· 1 year ago
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kid at work, erasing the ā€˜sā€™ when i wrote ā€œgaysā€ on the board: itā€™s okay bc ā€˜gayā€™ means happy
me, writing the ā€˜sā€™ back in: it also means gay.
kid: but wonā€™t that get us cancelled?
me:
me: i hope you know iā€™m a queer.
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wordy-little-witch Ā· 6 months ago
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Hiii i love ur crossguild posts so much and i wanna know ur headcanons/thoughts on vampire buggy and crossguildšŸ˜³šŸ™ thank u sm ur onepiece posts r like a dose of dopamine and sometimes angst lmao
Hiiii~ šŸ‘‹I'm happy you like this stuff - it's just as sweet and painful on me so if I go down, I'm taking you bozos with me /j
As for Cross Guild and Vampire Buggy - Oh Boy Have I Got Ideas
Aside from the obvious hilarity that, between the goth, the mafioso, and the bright ass clown, it's the CLOWN who is the vampire.... well. I really love little tidbits about vampire lore and world building so I'm gonna make this a silly lil mix of Vampire Concepts and expanding on Devil Fruit ideas.
It boils down to Devil Fruits being edible deals with the Sea Devil, thus changing their biology undeniably. For zoans, this equates them to smth similar to were-creatures of some kind, bleeding between the lines of their species. For logias, they are more similar to elemental spirits, witches, or some other element based being. ((I love alchemical spirits so I'm leaning to variants or derivatives there bc AAAA)). Paramecias, being the "weaker" of the Fruits, have more... "human-passing" options. It boils down sort of a mind, spirit, body type of thing with zoan, logia, paramecia respectively.
Anyway yeah Buggy's manifests as a form of vampirism. He didn't realize what exactly that was, nor how Devil Fruits work when he first ate it ((He was about 9/10 at most I'd say)). It was only after a meet up and play fight with Whitebeard that the other captain casually asked what Buggy's new side effects are. When nobody understands, he calls over Marco and his other Fruit Eater children because it's time for Devil Fruit crash course and this kid needs an educated adult.
Turns out Buggy's mild anemia was due to his Fruit and his oversensative observation Haki has always impacted all of his senses, so the uptick in smell barely even registered to him. When Whitebeard hears this, he is mildly frothing. He is ultimately assured when Roger chips in there with some of his own observations and even surprised a few people when he wordlessly passes Buggy some of his food as they talk. Bugs scarfs it down like a man starved, swaying happily while Shanks tries to steal more to pile onto the blue hair boy's semi-forgotten plate.
So yeah. Series of weird events for the realization. Very silly.
Come Cross Guild, I think Buggy probably had an entire system there. He's competent all things considered, for a man in a sea of monsters as it were. He just so happens to have a mild sun sensitivity, have sharper canines, have heightened senses and drinks blood. Not the weirdest thing.
Crocodile is vaguely aware of the side effects for paramecia types - Bon Clay often needed reminders of his own sense of self, and he's had others in Baroque Works he worked with. Even Robin had some odd little quirks here and there, well hidden though she kept them. He doesn't recognize Buggy's at first because he hides them and also... doesn't.
It's one of those things where it's known but not really a topic of discussion. Buggy never goes out of his way to hide it. It just Is. The drinks he has all the time? Blood.
Mihawk learns that the hard way lmao.
Actually I'll just make a list of Sillies
ā€¢ Mihawk once saw Buggy drinking what he thought was red wine, and when the clown set the bottle and glass down to go do something, he snatched it up, gave it a swirl, a sniff, a sip - and immediately paused. Odd, he thinks, placing the bottle back. Odd, but not the oddest thing he has seen.
ā€¢ Crocodile once dragged Buggy out of bed early one morning for work and made a snide remark about a day not fucking up his fancy skin care routine when Buggy hollered about his sunscreen. ((He did feel guilty later that evening when Buggy was covered in hives and blistered burns. He helped with the aloe and antihistamines that night))
ā€¢ Mihawk is Fascinated by Buggy's fangs and need to drink blood. He loves trashy paranormal romance, and every time Buggy hisses, or mentions being hungry, or so much as yawns enough to show his fangs, he is Looking Disrespectfully. Straight up Autistic Gaze Meme Eyes.
ā€¢ Crocodile is also Very Interested but wouldn't be caught DEAD alluding to it. He will side eye from afar.
ā€¢ some days are harder than most, and when Buggy's clothes get torn or he's low on sun block, Mihawk and Crocodile both will do the shivalrous give-partner-his-jacket/coat thing.
ā€¢ Buggy makes do mostly with carefully maintained stores of blood in sealed wine bottles and rarely actually bites anyone. Animals aren't common either but he does hunt sometimes. Eventually with Cross Guild rolling in the profits, Crocodile and Mihawk work together to uptick the medical areas and Buggy has access to a far fresher supply.
ā€¢ post Med Expansion, Buggy can fairly frequently be found skipping along in his typical wear with a blood bag in hand, a corner snipped and a cartoonish swirly straw slipped in. He is THRIVING.
ā€¢ when outsides hear about vampire allegations, they Immediately think Mihawk, then perhaps Crocodile as a possible second. The hilarity that unfold with the reaction to the truth is never short of insane.
ā€¢ Buggy actually has only ever bitten a few people in his life. Once, Roger. A few times, Shanks. Once, a nameless, faceless marine in the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time. Once an enemy bigger and stronger who threatened his fledgling little crew. It's odd, the feelings behind it, the sensory input. But eventually, he grows comfortable enough with Mihawk and Crocodile to try, to sink his fangs into flesh and drink from them. It's.... steamy to say the least.
Vampire Buggy my beloved ā™”ā™”ā™”ā™”
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tanadrin Ā· 1 year ago
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went back and listened to the episodes on david bokovoy's personal experience with religion, and man, it's funny just how different the stuff that people twig on in their experience of faith is--for bokovoy, even as a scholar of biblical criticism, it really isn't the truth claims of the LDS church that were ever a problem for him. like his academic career definitely primed him to move from a more orthodox, small-c conservative theology to a more expansive one (and he remains a pretty spiritual guy in general from the sound of it), but the thing that really started to fuck him up was the church's insistence on beating the anti-gay-marriage drum, starting with proposition 8, and culminating in the 2015 declaration about the children of gay parents not being welcome in the church unless they denounced them.
and it's a little infuriating to listen to him talk about how he feels about the LDS church after all of that--this whole "the leadership are good people deep down, i just disagree with them on this." like, come on, dude. i get that you're a straight guy whose experiences with mormonism have been generally very positive, but you are also self-aware enough to talk with compassion about LGBT people, about the experience of having a gay daughter, about the way in which people raised in Mormonism who are gay or even just a little bit nonconformist in some aspect of their life can have a really brutal time of it, and yet you cling to this idea of the organization as having some noble core, some inherently good quality that is only failing in its ultimate expression. he even talks about the experience of watching a movie that dramatizes the way different faith leaders came together during the civil rights movement, and having a moment of acute discomfort remembering that at the same time the leadership of the LDS church was still racist as hell in its teachings and policy
like, you should not be afraid to admit that the LDS church fucking sucks! it's always fucking sucked! most organized religion fucking sucks, and the organized religion that doesn't fucking suck has mostly gotten there by virtue of progressives splintering off and forming organizations that retain only a general flavor of the awful bullshit they grew up with and none of the core dogmas. i don't know of a human organization from the beginning of time that rigidly patrols boundaries of identity politics and creates structures of authority based on spirituality that didn't rapidly collapse into tyranny, a grift, or both, except the ones that were already that from the beginning.
and this, i suppose, is my disappointment with even the very open-minded progressives that John Dehlin interviews, which is that they want to redeem an organization that i think is fundamentally unredeemable. no particular shade to mormonism here--I think the Catholic church is also fundamentally unredeemable. hell, if i knew more about tibetan buddhism, i'd probably think that whole hierarchy was fundamentally unredeemable as well. the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints cannot become progressive on LGBT issues and honestly pursue truth and cease to misrepresent its history and spend its money on helping the poor and needy instead of conservative political campaigns and exploiting eighteen year olds to do morally questionable missionary work in third world countries without ceasing to be the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and its leadership knows this. for the exact same reason the Roman Catholic church can't go "lol you know what, our bad, this Pope guy isn't all that he's cracked up to be" and remain the Roman Catholic church.
i mean ultimately bokovoy doesn't go to church anymore; he says that the 2015 declaration was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back, and even if it was revoked tomorrow, it's not like he'd start going back. i assume he's not tithing anymore either. and he seems like a generally very gentle soul who wants to see the best in people, and i don't want to get on his case too much about that, because i admire that. but man, i think it's kind of disappointing to watch someone as apparently smart and compassionate as he is work himself into knots to excuse the behavior of the leadership of an organization like that when the simplest explanation is just that these people are assholes on a fundamental level and always have been.
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catbountry Ā· 4 months ago
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Kill. Murder. Rape. Suicide. Pedophile. Nazi. Hitler. Covid. Dead. Death.
When's the last time you watched a YouTube video or a TikTok video where some or even all of these words were censored, either by being bleeped out like what used to be reserved solely for swear words, or having sound-alike stand-ins (sewer slide, PDF File) or euphemisms (unalive)?
I'm not sure exactly where "unalive" came from, but I want to say it was in a similar batch of Roblox screencaps of children trying to creatively get past wordfilters by telling people to "go commit die." And I guess Fortnite played a role as well. Apparently "game-end" is attributed to a short film covered by Pyrocynical which was made to be family friendly, but I swear I have this memory of official Epic Games promo material using the term and I don't know if this real or not. I don't play Fortnite and I never will, so this was not considered important enough to really properly commit it to memory.
EDIT: It came from a Spider-man cartoon where Deadpool used it in an incredibly in-character way. Thanks, Guy I'm Going to Reference Later in this Post.
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It's an incredibly childish word. It seems like it was one that used to be used ironically until TikTok, being owned by a Chinese company where censorship laws are much stricter than here in the U.S., decided that words like "dead" and "death" and even "hole" were too dangerous of something, causing users to start getting creative and adapting these absurd euphemisms and they became so popular that people started using it who weren't even using it as a cheeky way to get around these word filters, on other sites that didn't have these same restrictions.
YouTubers can say the word "death" and "die" and (usually) don't have to worry about demonitization. The self-censoring that I remember starting on this very website, done as a way to either prevent posts being found through search or possibly offending the most sensitive of followers, is now being used by users to get around the restrictions set by giant faceless corporations to protect The Children, whose parents are giving them unrestricted access to the internet at younger and younger ages. I watched a video from an adult YouTuber crying about Newgrounds-style animations that were on YouTube about My Little Pony and about how traumatized he was by these, while also insisting he had good parents.
Good parents would not have let you have unrestricted access to 2012 YouTube unsupervised at age seven. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I gotta be the one to tell you this. I'm sure your parents are very nice people, but they could have easily used the internet to find out what kind of stuff was available on the internet. That was an oversight.
I was an adult on the internet in 2012. If I saw a parent just sit their toddler in front of YouTube, I would have asked them what the hell was wrong with them. Now, I see my cousin's children with their iPads watching videos of a faceless person playing with Paw Patrol figures, and I feel uneasy, but a little more hesitant to say something since my cousin seems well aware of the kind of place the internet is, and is always nearby when his kids are watching things. The internet was a constant presence for me in middle and high school, in the late 90's to early 2000's, and I saw some shit I should not have seen. But the trade-off was that I had a space where I could express myself openly, a place my mom didn't care about and wouldn't see. I clicked things I know I shouldn't have because I was a dumb, curious kid, and my mom was happy to not have to deal with me and have me be quiet, I guess. And my cousin is only a year older than I am, so I imagine our experiences on the early internet weren't that much different, considering he's also a bit of a nerd.
So this YouTuber aims his ire at the animators, who were making animations for other adult fans of the show (which he acknowledges), for daring to make edgy content of something made for children, holding up this children's media as a sort of sacred cow. For comparison, in middle and high school I was watching crude animations of frogs in blenders, stick figures bashing each other's heads into walls, and torture simulators featuring anyone from Pikachu and Elmo to Osama bin Laden. But because kids like him, kids brought up in the age of web 2.0, found these videos and watched them before their age had hit double-digits, those videos got lots of views from other children. And from that, we got Elsagate and Finger Family, videos that are still around but have mutated from featuring Elsa and Spider-man to now featuring Huggy Wuggy from Poppy's Playtime, or Pomni from The Amazing Digital Circus or Bluey from, uh, Bluey. These aren't edgy animations made for and by teenagers and young adults for a laugh, they're videos presumably made by teams of adults to mass produce and fill with as much shocking, click-baity content that doesn't even require being able to understand English to understand the plot, all to get watch-time to make money. There's no artistic merit to it. It's neither satire, nor is it an earnest expression of love for the source material, the latter of which, whether you like it or not, is where most rule 34 falls. No, these videos have only ever been content slop since this started around 2016. And this shit is still happening.
That same YouTuber has made a video about how we need to stop saying "unalive," which is part of what inspired me to post this at all, and I can't help but feel like this dude takes himself way too goddamn seriously, frowning upon "commit toaster bath" and "late term fetus deletus," which my edgelord, former 4channer millennial brain finds funny (it is too late for me, lads). This dude is in his early 20's and it's really interesting seeing someone discover pretty much things I've known since I was his age, but acting like they're these huge revelations. Like yeah, I've known about media influence on culture since I was in middle school, because of the internet, which was new and unrestricted by the Standards and Practices that shackled old media like radio and television. That used to be something that pretty much everybody on the internet was aware of; it's the reason why we came here in the first place. And you are right that giant corporations are censoring people, but also, the internet being corralled into a small handful of websites makes internet culture more homogenized and disposable. People can still meet life-long friends through the internet, but the sites where I first met some of my best friends are digital ghost towns, if they still exist at all, or they've become overrun with users infected by political brainworms that make them have incredibly strong opinions on a one-off promotional video done by Budweiser with a transgender TikTok influencer. You've got better luck making life-long friends through playing in the same Minecraft server together than you do being mutuals on Instagram or Twitter. And while Discord is the closest thing I've been able to find that replicates the feeling of both forum culture and chatrooms of the past, it's got its own set of problems unique to it. I can just say "Discord kitten" and most people who use Discord will know exactly what I mean.
Whoever decided to stop teaching kids about how to be safe online should probably be shot. Facebook made putting your whole-ass name and face and location on the internet not just normal, but people will find you suspicious if you choose not to do that. God, I fucking hate Facebook so much.
He's right, though, about the social contagion effect of language. This was a concern for me on this website a decade ago, but that was all social pressure. There was no corporate mandate cracking down on people, making them type "st*pid" to get around restrictions. That was all moral peacocking, baby. People did that shit to themselves.
Tumblr nowadays feels more sane, just because those of us left after the porn ban got a couple of years to grow up and chill out. But because of the porn ban, we can only really talk about the effects of it and complain, rather than be able to post our smut openly. Human sexuality expresses itself in some genuinely weird ways; I should know, and you should probably donate to Archive of Our Own to make sure there's a space where these things can be expressed without fear of censorship to protect The Children. But "unalive" is a symptom of a much larger problem, which is to sand off all the edges of the internet to make it marketable; the free market is more than happy to cater to the whims of the CCCP if they think it can make them more money. There's a lot of people in China, after all. The internet has more people on it but they're confined to much smaller spaces. Children don't have their own spaces online, and when they do, they're not as carefully moderated, instead opting for either overworked humans overseas, or dumb robots that just filter certain words and just become an obstacle to maneuver around to tell something to kill themselves with the creativity of someone who's at a sixth-grade reading level. People in their 20's are uncomfortable with nudity and sex scenes in films, perhaps under the assumption that it's always exploitation, that these scenes can't have artistic merit and are solely there to titillate, and given the sort of dumbing down of art thanks to Marvel and Disney, this seems like the only natural result when combined with the trauma of finding things online that you shouldn't have at way too young of an age. I do not like where this is going, and it's really saying something that those brought up in a sex-negative, American puritanical mindset only start paying attention when the censorship is affecting how we talk about death, something we have absolutely no problem with glorifying in our culture.
And if you're wondering why I wrote yet another long-ass essay bemoaning the slow death of internet culture and the Weenie Hut Jr's-fication of younger generations, well, it's because of this screenshot from 4chan.
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Now if only they could bully out the tradcaths.
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wuffgang-ameowdeus-moozart Ā· 1 year ago
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(steddie tbhk au. kinda.)
--- > Part 2 :)
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Read on Ao3 <3
Here is the thing. Steve is aware that it was his fault. It was his fault for being so self-obsessed. It was his fault for being a bad boyfriend. It was his fault for ignoring his girlfriend when all she wanted to do was to talk with him. It was his fault for being a bad fucking person even though he told himself time and time again that he would finally change.
So he can't really fault Nancy for cheating on him. She found someone better - someone who didn't hurt others for fun, someone who understood her needs and could actually meet them, someone who actually deserved her. She simply had had enough brain to realize that - of course she had, nobody could say that Nancy Wheeler wasn't smart - and enough self-respect to take the opportunity when it arose. He couldn't be mad at her for that. Sure, it would've been nice of her to break up in a different way. Sooner, probably, and not drunk enough for her words to slur into each other. But he knows that he doesn't have any right to complain. It is what he deserves, after all.
Here is another thing Steve is aware of: the supernatural is real.
The discovery wasn't all too surprising, more like the confirmation of something he'd been too scared to properly acknowledge until he couldn't deny it anymore. Hawkins and the supernatural have been closely intertwined for as long as anyone can remember, and everyone who lives here has no choice but to be somewhat aware of it.
There are people who try to deny it, of course. The town has a horrifying history of buried disappearances and mangled unexplained corpses that nobody talks about. More often than not a case will run cold instead of being solved. Officially there are kidnappers and serial killers loose, but nobody searches too hard, and in the end it doesn't matter whether that truly is the case. After all, there is nothing the chief can do against the supernatural, even if he were to acknowledge it. Sometimes it's just easier to live in denial.
Most things are easy to ignore or to write off. A sudden epidemic of lost pens and books and loose change? Children are so irresponsible nowadays. When the same problem extends to locker doors and an entire statue? Well, if you live in Hawkins, you develop a talent for looking the other way.
Steve's parents are firm deniers of the supernatural. If they had spent more time with him, maybe he wouldn't believe in it either. But they didn't. Maybe they felt that there was something wrong - something other - in Hawkins, and they wanted to get as far away from it as possible. It is not like the reason matters. Fact is, Steve had always been on the fence when it comes to that kind of stuff and had decided early on that it's better to be safe than sorry. So he kept his ears open.
Rumor has it that if you step on the fourth step of the stairs near the art room you will be sent to another dimension. Welp, he is going to pay a bit closer attention to where he steps. The spirits of dead students will haunt you if you are in the school library at 23 o'clock. What can he say, he has never been much of a bookworm anyway. Worst case scenario, he slightly inconvenienced himself for nothing. Best case scenario...well.
He can't say he didn't feel a bit vindicated when he saw the monster attacking Nancy and Jonathan.
But the supernatural is insatiable and greedy. Once you have stepped into its grasp, it does not want to let you go. That was when Steve had understood that the denial was a safety mechanism, that sometimes it is better for you and everyone around you if you just don't look too close. Unfortunately it was way too late for him by the time he had had that particular realization.
But still, he tried. Fuck had he tried. He was even more overly cautious of where he stepped and he still refused to go to the school library no matter the time and he still always kept an ear out for any new rumors that might arise. And yet he always managed to become entangled in one thing or another. A week where he doesn't step foot into the netherworld (or upside-down, as the kids call it) is rarer than ones he does, and as soon as he saw his first supernatural creature they suddenly were everywhere. It is kind of horrifying how many live amongst them without anyone noticing.
And now, here he is. Actively seeking out the supernatural. On his own. He didn't even tell anyone so they know to send backup if he doesn't return. If this is where he dies, there is nobody else to blame.
He probably would feel disappointed in himself if he was able to feel anything at all at the moment. This truly would be a very stupid and very preventable way to die. As things are, he doesn't feel anything at all as he makes sure nobody can see him. Neither as he enters the old girls bathroom with the mold everyone does their best to avoid. He also doesn't feel anything as the creaking door of the last stall falls closed behind him, or when he calls for the spirit. He doesn't even feel anything when the spirit doesn't respond and he is just a desperate boy standing around in a moldy female bathroom.
He does feel something when a cold hand suddenly appears on his shoulder.
Here is the thing about humans. They can get used to anything, no matter how ludicrous, if only it happens often enough. Had this been his first brush with the supernatural, he probably would've screamed. Had this only been his second or third time, he probably wouldn't be calm enough to really take in the hand that suddenly materialized behind him. He probably wouldn't have noticed all the rings adorning those slender fingers, as there isn't a difference in temperature between the cold skin and the cold metal. He probably wouldn't have seen that the black nails were only painted and were lightly chipped at places. He probably wouldn't have taken a second to admire how elegant and slender the hand is.
Admittedly, even he is a bit taken aback when he actually turns around. And here he thought he'd seen it all.
"Look, no offence, but aren't you like....supposed to be a girl?"
The spirit, who despite the long hair and bold black makeup is definitely not a girl, seems annoyed with him. It would've been more terrifying if Steve hadn't had multiple spirits try to kill him and come disturbingly close to it before.
"Hey, I'm not the only one who shouldn't be in the girls' bathroom right now, so like, shut the fuck up."
Steve sighs. Perverted and rude. What a fucking jackpot.
"Okay, look. Clearly we both are feeling weird about being here." Even though this is apparently your chosen resting place, he doesn't add. He does still need a favor from the guy. "So like, could we maybe continue this conversation in the hallway? Or at least in the boys' bathroom? I do admittedly feel a bit better at not being the only boy in the female bathroom, but it's still kind of, well... weird, ya know?"
Without a word the ghost turns around floats through the door. Steve takes that as his sign to follow him. The ghost doesn't talk and it takes him some time to realize where the other is leading him. The library. How long has it been since he last was here?
He doesn't know if it is abnormal for the library to be completely empty at this time of the day, but he will probably feel safer if he doesn't ask.
"You aren't a very good little student, you know?"
Steve is growing consistently more concerned. The rumors talked about a girl. Not a boy that can magically know your grades. Oh god, maybe he wanted to take him here so he could force him to study. Now that would be a true nightmare.
"No, I don't mean it like that, oh my god. But it makes sense, I guess. You are already pretty and brave, it would be unfair if you were smart, too-"
"Hey!"
"No. I meant that normally when a student succesfully summons me and I deem them worthy enough to be blessed by my presence."
And what a fucking blessing that is.
"They get so scared they run away before they even can make their wish. I'm pretty sure this is the most chill conversation I have ever had with another living person."
"That includes the time you were alive, too?"
"Ha ha ha, very funny. So, what is your wish, my knight in shining armor? Remembering that flattery will get you very far."
Steve can feel the way his face falls in on itself when he remembers the entire reason for this foolhardy plan. This spirit in front of him is so different from any other supernatural being he's met before, much less bloodthirsty or malicous. It's stupid, but for a moment he almost thought they could maybe be...friends. Which is such a dumb thought and definitely way more unrealistic than ghosts. Evidence A, the of yet unnamed ghost floating right in front of him.
"Hey, what is actually your name?"
"That your wish?"
"I- No?! Why would I call upon a wish-granting spirit only to wish to know her- his name and then never talk to him again?!"
"You never want to see me again? Now that's rude. How 'bout that: tell me your name first"
"I asked first"
"YOU are the one who wants something from ME, sweetie. I don't think you are the one with the upper hand in this situation"
Steve sighs. As much as he wants to deny it, the unnamed spirit in front of him is telling the truth. (He ignores the shiver down his spine at the pet name. Nancy had never been a fan of those.) "Steve. Steve Harrington."
"Steve Harrington." The spirit takes his time, savoring every syllable. "If that isn't the fucking most suburban-conservative-little-town-in-the-Midwest name I've ever heard. Well Stevie, you may call me Hanako"
"But Hanako is your title. Not your name."
"That is indeed the truth, darling. You really shouldn't undersell your intelligence like that-"
"I fucking didn't, you just assumed-"
"you are the first one to actually realize that. Unfortunately for you, you haven't unlocked this information yet-"
"like some fucking nerd game?!"
"OR told me your wish. Which is why you are here. Which is why everyone is here, even if you were much better at smalltalk than most. So? I'm all ears for you, big boy."
And now that the time has finally come - with surprisingly little bloodshed or near-death-events, even - his throat closes up. He knows he wants to do it. Needs to do it. He knows that it isn't fair, that it is a just punishment he should shoulder like a man, that he deserves every drop of pain and regret and more, that making a deal with the supernatural always has a price. But the thought of continuing to live with this numbness weighting him down doesn't seem feasible.
He tries to tell himself that it isn't so bad. After all, it's not like he is doing anything to Nancy or Jonathan. Hell, this would actually somewhat help them.
But it is a scary thought. Loving Nancy has become so ingrained into his DNA, he can't imagine who he will become without it. Isn't even sure if he wants to know this Steve.
Still. The choice to search out a supernatural being on his own was not one he had taken lightly, and now it is too late to turn back anyway.
"I- I want to stop having feelings for Nancy."
"...Nancy being?"
"My girlf-, my ex-girlfriend." Silence. "She, she found someone better than me. Someone who actually deserves her. I just...need a bit of help to move on."
"And...you are sure you don't want to make this Nancy just fall in love with you instead? That is what most people ask for, you know?"
"She gave me way too many speeches about feminism and agency for me to ever do this to her. I...I already messed up enough. Already made her suffer enough. More than enough. She and Jonathan...yeah. I don't think she's ever looked at me the way she looks at him. The way I still look at her. So. Uhm please? Your hair is very...very...wavy. Like, good wavey."
More silence. Steve needs to force himself not to open his mouth again. Maybe his heart wrenching speech just needs a bit more time to settle in.
"I am a bit disappointed, you know?"
"Excuse me?!" He crosses his arms and can almost physically feel himself slipping into babysitter-mode "And what, pray tell, do you mean by that?"
"I mean that every-fucking-time someone calls me it's because of some stupid love shit, yanno? It gets kind of boring. You were the first one who actually bothered with some small talk so i was just hoping for something more interesting I guess. Like, just throwing some ideas out there, have you ever thought about world domination? Like, I didn't really have the time of my life here - pun intended. And I think it would be really fun. Soooo....how about it?"
"Soooo....how about no?"
"Not even if you can take this Nancy as your badass feminist queen and I allow her to be part of our awesome world-dominating partnership? Or well, trio in this case. That Jonathan dude can come, too, if he insists."
Steve does not deem this outlandish suggestion with an answer. Hanako sighs and looks so much like a kicked puppy that Steve almost feels bad for not attempting world domination with him.
"Okay. Look. Can I tell you a secret?"
He raises a brow. "Can I stop you?"
Hanako also tries to raise only one brow and fails. Steve graciously let's it go - he is kind of dependent on the guy right now, no matter how ridiculous he is being.
"You are my favorite so far, okay."
"Aw. I thought spirits weren't supposed to have one favorite victim?"
"Thin fucking ice, Harrington. Just- listen to me when I say that love isn't worth it. Feelings are either fabricated and can never be as genuine as the real deal, or they just go away on their own. Time heals all wounds or whatever", he looks down at his own half-transparent hands. "Or, well, most wounds."
He looks back up and stares Steve directly into the eyes. And like, he knew that Hanako's eyes were brown. But damn were they brown. And warm. And big. If you were to look up "doe-eyed" in the dictionary, the definition would be a photo of the look the guy is giving him right now. Almost makes him reconsider the world-domination idea.
"Deals with the supernatural always have a price. Are you completely and a hundred percent sure that it's worth it?"
And Steve stops. He knew how dangerous the supernatural could be, had seen the ridiculous prizes people paid. How the other side twisted and turned their pleas and wishes just so they could laugh at those stupid and desperate enough to ask for powers beyond their control. He thought that he had made peace with it, thought he had been ready to pay whatever Hanako demanded from him. But now that the spirit himself is warning him...
"It may seem like life or death right now, but it always does in the moment"
And Steve sighs. He knows what the right thing to do is and he knows it would be more than stupid not to take this surprisingly friendly spirit on his chance to walk away.
But he already knew that before he went to the bathroom stall. And it hurts so fucking bad sometimes the weight on his chest makes it hard to breathe.
"What-"he licks his lips, hates how his voice breaks, "What would you suggest instead?"
"Have you already tried watching stupid romcons while consuming a concerning amount of ice cream?
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lookbluesoup Ā· 2 years ago
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I think something that gets overlooked a lot in the nuance of whether people are supposed to comment/interact with people's fics and art is that... enjoying interaction and being motivated by it is not the same as being utterly destroyed and depressed by a lack of interaction. Lemme talk about how the kudos-craze affected me, personally.
Before anyone pulls out the "oh you're just such'n'such kind of writer you don't know what it feels like to be on the other side" I have been both an obscure writer with little engagement and one that was big enough to get multiple pieces of gift art/fics for my ocs.
This was the kind of stuff I got for my Fallout fics back in the day:
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This is what I've been getting on my FFXIV stuff:
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So... yes. It's been an adjustment changing fandoms to one that is arguably much bigger and finding I'm getting much less interaction.
Initially, back in the Fallout fandom, I was writing very personal stories, just for me, and then sharing them with people online in case they resonated with others. Getting interaction now and then was nice. And this worked great. I was writing because I enjoyed the process, connected with the characters, wanted to know what would happen next.
But as I got more and more attention, I ended up feeling a LOT of pressure to perform. And I ultimately spent so much time staring at my open drafts, worrying about whether I was writing something other people would like because I was so afraid of disappointing my followers, that I couldn't actually write anymore or enjoy creating.
That's one of those points where wanting kudos/comments/etc becomes unhealthy, and you need to take a step back from it.
I've had a lot of therapy since then. I've built some stronger, healthier relationships with people I trust, and don't feel that pressure as much anymore because I have a more stable sense of self worth. I'm not perfect about it, but I'm learning.
I think it's often brushed over by people who are in the kudos-dont-define-you camp (it even was by me, for many years), but, yes, we tell stories because we want attention. We want to reach people. Even if we have a strong internal sense of self and aren't insecure about whether there's interaction on our fics... most of us, I think, are still posting in hopes our words reach someone else, even if we don't ever know for sure that they did. I even met my now partner of two years through fic, and the wonderful comments he left on my Ao3. So I'm the last person who should be dissing the incredible power stories have for connecting people.
It should also be noted, however, that using "number go up" as a way to get happiness and motivation is scientifically proven to be harmful to creativity. They did studies with children where kids were given points for reading books, the more books they read the more points they got, and they would be rewarded for points milestones. But when that study ended, and the points system was removed? Even the kids who used to read for fun before the challenge stopped reading. Because their brains had been trained, very quickly, to be reward motivated rather than to just enjoy reading for its own sake. They didn't enjoy something they used to like anymore, and that's extremely sad.
Social media capitalizes on this, basically addiction behavior, and as creators we do need to be aware of how our brain works. It's so, so easy to fall into the mindset where writing or drawing is only worth it if we're getting flower petals back, and to end up trapped in a place where we can't even create for ourselves anymore. The goalpost is always moving, in this situation, because we're always comparing our numbers to others, or to previous posts, or just saying its not enough to hurt ourselves and always needing more. It doesn't end up being about the quality or the sincerity of the interaction.
So while it's good, completely ok, to want comments, kudos, reblogs, whatever, and to enjoy getting them, and to be motivated by them... if not getting them is causing you to spiral into disappointment and depression to such an extreme degree that you don't even like your own stories and characters anymore, consider, without shame, whether your brain has been tricked into equating numbers with self-worth.
I wish people would stop using shame as a bludgeon, though I understand there's a lot of frustration on both sides, too, and that's valid. But attacking people who are too nervous to comment on fics, and attacking people who want comments and to connect with people, are both not going to solve anything. They'll just create defensiveness and hurt.
I have seen some people say they don't even read fics anymore because they don't always have the energy to leave a thoughtful comment afterwards and they feel stressed about not giving anything to the author. So they don't read the author's writing at all because they can't do it the "correct" way. A lot of posts demanding comments and holding updates for fics hostage have hurt readers and added anxiety to the process of even taking part in fandom, and that's not healthy either. I'd much rather someone be able to read my fic, enjoy it, and say nothing to me. Because that way someone did still get to enjoy it.
While I love getting interaction, nice comments can have me smiling for days or months or years, and have allowed me to meet some incredible people, I'll continue to preach that comments and kudos are never an obligation. Readers don't have to interact with my stuff, and they don't have to give me a reason why. There's a lot of reasons why people don't leave those and most of them are benign.
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elen-aranel Ā· 2 years ago
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Picard spoilers but... this episode had me in tears and not in an 'oh wasn't it emotional the acting good job guys' kind of way.
I don't like picking over my personal pain and traumas with my parental situation in public. However. I have personal experience as the child of a completely estranged parent.
I feel like I don't know these characters any more.
What could possibly make Beverly behave in that way?
Saying "Jack chose not to find you" is the most bullshit reason for him not having a relationship with Jean-Luc.
It is cowardly and self-serving in the extreme.
Beverly is trying to blame Jack for HER cowardice.
But she was the one who chose to poison her son against his father.
She could have reached out to Jean-Luc. She did not. She brought him up, herself, without his father. Solely.
He loves his mother. His mother is all he's known. So why would he want to find the father that he doesn't know if his mother who he loves doesn't want to communicate with him AT ALL?
Wouldn't he feel like he was betraying her if he did?
No matter how much she's like, 'Oh I would be fine with it', he KNOWS there's a reason they don't talk. And he loves her.
There's been no sci-fi reason for Jack to have been kept from Jean-Luc. There's been no "I had to keep him safe - he was threatened at birth" reason.
As of episode 3, unless Beverly is lying, Beverly decided unilaterally that it wouldn't be safe for Jean-Luc to be involved in raising his son, and...
I am well aware that I am better off, never having known one of my parents, than some people who had both. But I have ALWAYS missed that presence. I have always wanted it, even though I have never been able to reach out and find my other parent for various reasons.
And she took Jack's father away from him.
Yes Jean-Luc had a poor relationship with his father. Yes he didn't want to be a dad. But it's not like he was a bad person. He was clumsy with children but he was never abusive with anyone under his care.
I do understand her having misgivings, given who Picard was but... I can't imagine her not screwing herself up to talk to someone? To him? I can't imagine her being that kind of... emotionally illiterate? Unable to examine her own fears and feelings?
And really she had to cut off all her friends? Even Troi? I know the Troi-Rikers went through some stuff and were on a different ship and everything but... I don't think Thad got sick immediately?
SHE needs to take some ownership, too, of her decision to bring Wesley up on a fucking Starship. Damn.
She NEVER HAD TO be a doctor in Starfleet. She doesn't get to kind of blame Jean-Luc for losing Jack and Wesley to the stars when she CHOSE THE STARS HERSELF.
I just
make it make sense because I can't.
Also. Riker and Picard being so antagonistic toward each other grates. Riker took Picard's advice and it was wrong... that's still on you as captain m8
I did enjoy Worf exclusively calling Raffi Raffaela though.
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akaraboonline Ā· 2 years ago
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If you're aĀ  IndependentĀ Ā woman, you probably do things differently.
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The prospect of being self-sufficient and strong is appealing to modern women everywhere. You can, however, be an independent woman while also being in a relationship. Sure, having this title may seem difficult for some guys because they are probably not used to dating someone who is used to having their own space and doing things alone. Nonetheless, it's something they're bound to be drawn to. After all, strong women don't need anyone else to keep them going. You are fully aware of your strengths and will go to any length to achieve your objectives. Here's what else distinguishes you. If you're aĀ  IndependentĀ Ā woman, you probably do things differently. Youā€™re not afraid ofĀ doing things alone. There's no need for you to bug your friends in a group chat, hoping that someone else will pretend to be interested in going. You already purchased your single Fifty Shades of Grey ticket on Fandango and don't need anyone else to share your popcorn with. In fact, she prefers to watch movies by herself. That way, you can form your own opinion about it rather than simply discussing how attractive Jamie Dornan is on the way home. YouĀ get stuff done without complaining. The average person might avoid going to the grocery store because of the snow. You lace up your boots and put on your winter hat, realizing that driving slowly and carefully is only a minor inconvenience if it means having fresh fruits and vegetables in the house. Of course, you'll want to whine and moan like everyone else, but that won't stop you from completing your daily missions. You donā€™t need a husband to have a family. If your biological clock is ticking, she isn't going to let the fact that you don't have a boyfriend or husband deter you from taking on the role of a lifetime - who says raising children on your own is too difficult? All of the old-fashioned statements that a child needs a father and a mother will make the independent woman laugh, because you know you can be both and do an amazing job at it ā€” even if it means you won't have much time for anything else. You donā€™tĀ struggle to make decisions. When you're with your friends, you don't hesitate to share your thoughts on what to do and where to eat - and you're so convincing that none of your friends ever doubt you. The self-sufficient woman knows what she wants in life and does not waste time pondering various options - why bother when you're certain? Youā€™re quick to offer advice ā€” and itā€™s valuable. You always make time for your friend, and they trust your advice implicitly, most likely because you base your advice on life experience rather than magazine articles. While your advice may be harsh, you are frequently correct. The independent woman never intends to hurt another person's feelings, but you're not sugarcoating anything. YouĀ multitask better than most. You do everything you need to do yourself. You don't rely on others to clean the kitchen, pay the bills, or feed the pets; you've established your own routine that you'll follow for the rest of your life. People may think you're Superwoman, but the truth is that if you're not doing something, you'll become extremely bored. You can be pretty intimidating, even if you donā€™t mean to be. You may have a resting bitch face, but that doesn't mean you're a cruel and demanding person ā€” and with a little more exposure, people will realize how smart and kind-hearted you truly are. To be honest, people are often intimidated by someone who has complete control over their lives, as you do. You have opinions and are well-read, but just because you didn't propose the plan doesn't mean you don't want to go out to get manicures with your friends. Even if your schedule is jam-packed, you will always make time for social events. Youā€™re not quick to ask for help, but youā€™re not afraid to, either. Everyone requires assistance from time to time, but the independent woman will only seek assistance from others as a last resort. You're so used to doing everything on your own that having a friend lend a helping hand may even be embarrassing to you. However, you recognize when you can't go it alone and have the humility to ask for assistance when you truly need it. You donā€™t live on social media. Nobody will see a status that says, "Finally put the kids to bed! Now it's time for a well-earned glass of wine!" on your page. You'll put the kids to bed, drink your wine, and feel no need for approval. You're not interested in flaunting your accomplishments because you don't value your life based on likes and comments. Your life does not revolve around social media. Thank heavens. Youā€™llĀ never settle. After college, your only option was to work as a receptionist. You were happy for the money and the exposure to office work, and you imagined yourself as the CEO of that company someday. Even if you enjoy your entry-level position, you won't be there for long. Furthermore, you will not include lunches out with coworkers on your pro and con list when it comes time to move forward. Sure, you enjoyed your time with them, but you're well aware that if given the opportunity, everyone in that office would take the better one.
Things Independent Women Do Differently In The Bedroom
Choosing your own path.Ā  It's incredibly liberating to be able to choose what you want to do and when you want to do it. You are not required to have the same job as your parents or attend the same college as your friends. It is your life and your decision. You have the option to change your path and goals at any time. Equality in relationships.Ā  An independent woman isn't afraid to let a man take control of a relationship at times. You simply anticipate being able to do the same. You don't want to be treated like a frail, weak creature. want to be treated as a partner on an equal footing at all times. Good conversation.Ā  Finding good conversation can be difficult at times. When you find it, you appreciate it. You enjoy intelligent conversations that delve deeper than "who did you hook up with last night" or random celebrity gossip. You want something that makes you think and allows you to learn more about the person with whom you are conversing. Good friends who accept you.Ā  Who says self-sufficient women don't have friends? You're just picky about who you hang out with. You want friends who will not try to change you. You're usually seen with a small group of people who all have different interests. Most of them are likely to be independent women as well. Not having to rely on anyone else.Ā  Being able to take care of yourself gives you a lot of confidence. It's nice to have assistance from time to time, but it's not something you expect. You work hard to have your own place, car, and belongings. You learn how to perform basic repairs. Basically, you figure things out without relying on others. Achieving success.Ā  Yes, success is important. Independence does not appear out of nowhere. It entails setting goals and working toward them. This is how you became a self-sufficient woman. Success is valuable because it demonstrates that you worked hard for what was important to you. Your own happiness.Ā  You are not reliant on others to make you happy. You are aware that you have the ability to make yourself happy. That is why you place such a high value on happiness. After all, if you can do it all on your own, you know you're truly self-sufficient. Freedom from relationship statuses.Ā  You despise all the drama created by other women who define themselves by their marital status. They're fine when they're with someone, but when they're alone, they crumble. You're so much more than that. You appreciate not having to be concerned about your relationship, or lack thereof. Regardless, life goes on. Your beliefs and morals.Ā  Any self-sufficient woman will tell you that she has strong beliefs and morals. It's as if we have our own set of rules. It contributes to our being stronger and more successful in life. Sure, those beliefs are constantly challenged, but we stand firm in what we believe. Challenges.Ā  It's tedious to do the same thing every day. You never have the opportunity to learn or grow. You value life's challenges. You're excited by the opportunity, whether it's a random home improvement project or having to learn French for a business trip. You are always eager to learn new things. The best way to accomplish this is through challenges. Respect.Ā  Respect may appear simple, but it means everything to independent women. We want to be respected by the important people in our lives. We want to be respected by our family, friends, and coworkers for who we are and what we do. The best part is that you work hard to earn it rather than simply expecting it. Always learning something new.Ā  You are aware that knowledge is power. You don't wait for a challenge to learn something new. You're constantly reading blogs, taking online courses, and learning from those you look up to. What you learn is important to you because you know it will help you grow as a person. Alone time. True, an independent woman does not require constant attention. You're perfectly fine being alone at times. You value that time because it allows you to think, relax, and plan new goals. You know you need time to work on yourself, and you enjoy having a few hours to yourself. Your health.Ā  I'm not talking about starving yourself until you're a size 0. The majority of independent women you see are in good health. We look after ourselves because we appreciate ourselves. We understand that in order to achieve our goals and be truly happy, we must focus on living a healthier lifestyle.
Things Guys Do To Drive You Away
Asking you to hang out every day If you don't see them every day, you'll be fine. You'd be fine even if you had to be apart for a week. But the moment a guy tries to take up all of your time and refuses to give you your space when you need it, you'll feel suffocated. There's nothing you despise more than that. Getting upset when you travel alone You yearn for new experiences and thrills. You enjoy being alone with your thoughts. Even if you don't know a single person in another country, you're comfortable striking up a conversation. These are characteristics that an independent woman values in herself. No if a guy tries to talk you out of doing these things or gets upset about them. He is free to leave. Being overprotective You've most likely been on our own for some time. You are capable of fending for yourself. You want a companion, not a second father. When a man is overprotective, it is neither flattering nor sweet. It's both offensive and irritating. Making you feel guilty when you take a day to yourself Sometimes all you want to do is be alone. When you choose Netflix over him one night, a guy should not be offended. It has nothing to do with your feelings for him. It all comes down to how you feel about yourself. You enjoy spending time alone. In fact, you may require it at times. Isn't that true? Trying to do everything for you You have the ability to change your own light bulb, carry your own groceries, and drive yourself around. There is such a thing as being useful. However, it irritates you when you're clearly capable but they insist. Being jealous You'll talk to and hang out with whomever you want. You must be trusted. The last thing you need is an insecure man who constantly wants you to check in or question you like you're in a job interview. No, thank you. Telling you that you canā€™t do something Sorry, but you don't seem to remember asking for permission. You are no longer a child, and he is no longer your parent. Taking you away from your family or friends When he wasn't around, your family and friends were everything. You're not going to give it up. You place a high value on your relationships with those who are important to you. Even if you have a boyfriend, you must make time for those who have been there since the beginning. Wanting to come everywhere with you You're perfectly fine going out to eat by yourself. A wedding can be attended without a date. Oh, and you don't have to have him as your bodyguard every time you go out dancing with your friends. Putting down your hobbies He doesn't have to like or participate in your hobbies, but he should respect them. There's nothing more off-putting than a man who discourages you and refuses to support your interests. Needing constant reassurance You need a man who can feel secure in your relationship even if you don't always make him feel needed. The truth is that you don't require him. You're perfectly fine by yourself. What matters is that you genuinely desire him. That must suffice. Paying all the time Is he aware that you work as well? Although chivalry is admirable, you can pay your own way. In fact, you would prefer it. Not having a life outside of you You are aware that a relationship has three components. There are three of us: you, him, and us. You admire a man who knows how to look after himself. He should have his own interests. His own circle of friends. His own existence. You can't be everything to him. You don't want to, in fact. Moving too fast You didn't become self-sufficient overnight. You're probably used to being alone, and it may take some time for you to adjust to having someone else around. You're confident enough in yourself that you don't need someone to tell you on the second date that they love you. You don't need to meet his parents tomorrow, and you're not moving in with him the following week. Read the full article
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vrisrezis Ā· 2 years ago
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Fluff alphabet with gladion
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Self indulgent stuff b4 I answer rqs
A = AttractiveĀ (What do they find attractive about their partner?) he finds your strength the most attractive part about you. How great you are with PokĆ©mon battles, even if youā€™re the shy or gentle type, he can sense how strong you are and he loves that part of you.
B = BabyĀ (Do they want a family? Why/Why not?) well, so considering the fact youā€™re both children and he hasnā€™t once thought about it, no. When heā€™s much MUCH older he would need to warm up to the idea but would be okay with it in the end. For awhile heā€™s scared of ending up like his mom in anyway.
C = CuddleĀ (How do they like to cuddle?) typically doesnā€™t care how you cuddle, as long as you donā€™t see his face because itā€™s as red as can be. Usually has his face in your neck.
D = DatesĀ (What kind of Dates do you go on?) might take you on walks, pretty simple dates but he likes taking you to cafes. He just doesnā€™t like being noticed in public so he tries to take you to more quiet areas.
E = EverythingĀ (You are my ____ (e.g. my life, my worldā€¦) you are my sun. (Meaning like his reason for waking up every morning lol)
F = FeelingsĀ (When did they know theyā€™re in love?)
Took awhile since he doesnā€™t understand his feelings, he would realize after hau says something. He would deny it at first, but when he sees you beat him again in a PokĆ©mon battle, he realizes it for real.
G = GratitudeĀ (How grateful are they in general? Are they aware of what their S/O does for them?)
Absolutely. He has a hard time showing it all the time but he absolutely will show you how appreciative he is of you.
H = HonestyĀ (Do they have secrets they hide from their S/O?)
No. Heā€™s very honest. He believes honesty is key to a relationship.
I = Impression (First impressions?)
Depends on your personality. If more outgoing and bubbly might think youā€™re stupid and annoying and naive. If calmer or even shy he might have more positive first impressions on you, such as how gentle you seem.
J = JealousyĀ (Do they get jealous? How do they deal with it)
Yeah, a lot. Typically keeps it to himself, but he seems grumpier than usual.
K = KissĀ (How do they kiss you? How do they like to be kissed?)
Heā€™s often too shy to kiss you, if heā€™s taller than he typically kisses your forehead. If not your cheek. But he always gets red in the face. Heā€™s too shy to ask but he likes being kissed on the lips or on the hand.
L = LoveĀ (Who says ā€˜I love youā€™ first?)
You. Heā€™s very shy about saying it first.
M = MemoryĀ (Whatā€™s their favorite memory together?)
His favorite memory was probably the first time you and his silvally started to bond.
N = NickelĀ (Do they spoil? Do they buy the person they love everything?)
Yes. He has the money.
O = On Cloud NineĀ (What are they like when theyā€™re in love? Is it obvious for others? How do they express their feelings?)
Very obvious. Hau and lily know he ainā€™t slick. His face gets red whenever youā€™re around and he stares a lot. Heā€™s visibly on more edge, but not in a bad way? Heā€™s just more nervous and easily embarrassed. He has a hard time being vocal about his feelings but heā€™s obvious.
P = Pet namesĀ (What pet names do they use?)
Hun, honey, dear, sometimes babe.
Q = whats their fav non modern thing
Not doing this one
R = Rainy DayĀ (What do they like to do on a rainy day?)
Chill out, play video games probably. He doesnā€™t like going out in the rain so.
S = SadĀ (How do they cheer themselves/S/O up?)
He usually trains when he feels sad, but when itā€™s you he often tries to be there with you. Whatever you do to cope heā€™s there with you, he worries a lot about you when youā€™re upset so he does anything he can to make you feel better.
T = TalkingĀ (What do they like to talk about?)
Anything, as lame as that sounds lol. He just likes listening to you so anything that makes you ramble.
U = UnderstandingĀ (How well do they know their partner? Are they empathetic?)
Yes, he knows you very well. He can read you and tell if something is off even the slightest. He is extremely empathetic.
V = ValueĀ (How important is the relationship to them? What is it worth in comparison to other things in their life?)
Extremely important. Like one of the most important things in his life, he typically chooses you over most things in his life, other than his sister and PokƩmon.
W = WeddingĀ (thoughts on marriage, When, where, and how do they propose?)
Obviously it would be many years down the line, probably in your mid 20s. He would do it in a place that was special. A place you two went out on dates a lot, or perhaps where you both hang out often. Perhaps where you first met if you had a good first meeting. Would take you on a walk and work up the courage and ask you.
X = XOXOĀ (How affectionate are they? In public/in private)
Not much in public, but heā€™s fine with pda if you initiate. Not in front of people he knows too much though. In private as well. He wants you to initiate but heā€™s secretly clingy. And loves kisses and hugs from you.
Y = YearningĀ (How well do they cope when theyā€™re separated from their S/O?)
He tends to distract himself but he canā€™t help but feel so alone.
Z = ZealĀ (Are they willing to go to great lengths for the relationship?)
Of course. Heā€™ll do anything to keep your relationship happy and healthy and to make sure youā€™re happy.
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phoenixyfriend Ā· 3 years ago
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OKAY so on the topic of Star Wars takes wrt ā€œcharacter ends up in an A/B/O universe where theyā€™re an omega, but they were previously a cis male in their canonā€
@atagotiak and I had some Thoughts on discord
So, obviously, Anakin would make a good omega and heā€™s also incredibly murdery. Foregone conclusion that we're using him for this.
There is no preexisting Anakin in the Omegaverse. He shows up JUST as the war is starting. Canon timeline is in the third year of the war (heā€™s 22), but whatever dumped him into omegaverse also tossed him back a few years. No de-aging, just a bit of mismatched timeline stuff.
He's... really good at war, and clearly a Jedi, so the Temple just kind of goes "WELL OKAY THEN, SURE, YOU'RE IN, EVERYONE PRETEND HE'S BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME." The Jedi, by and large, don't care about omegaverse dynamics beyond 'what do you need, medically, to be happy and healthy' and 'what do you need to be aware of so you can be prepared for biases you encounter in the field?ā€™
None of the civilian natborns (mainly politicians) want to put him on the field because of those biases. Anakin, being Anakin, is VERY blatantly an omega in scent, has never been on suppressants (because it wasn't a thing he fucking NEEDED), is incredibly emotional as a person, loves kids, etc.
Like, nobody wants an omega fighting a war anyway, but THIS one is like PINNACLE omega, and those awful Jedi are making him FIGHT just because he's good at stab!
The Jedi: Actually, it's because he's got several years of war experience that we don't, and he's a good tactician that works well with the clones-- Coruscant: You MONSTERS The Jedi: Look, we gave him the option to not stab and he looked absolutely devastated. Anakin, several days earlier: You donā€™t want me? Iā€™m not good enough??? Jedi: Also he can beat up at least half the temple.
He doesn't know a damn thing about dynamics, but he DOES know that sometimes he's so horny he wants to stab HARDER. The clones are largely disinterested in their generals' dynamics because between mostly-Mando* trainers and no-dynamic Kaminoans, they only really care if a person can shoot.
* Mandalore approves of Fighty Omegas. As far as (traditional) Mandalore is concerned, you want an omega that will kill the threats to your children as well as you do.
Anakin: You know more about being an omega than I do. Rex: ...I'm an alpha. Anakin: Yeah. Let that one sink in a bit.
We have two options for Obi-Wan!
Omegaverse local Obi-Wan (beta) has never met this man before, and is very unnerved that the immediate default reaction Anakin has to his presence is releasing Family pheromones as if Obi-Wan is his DAD and like. This strange, too-tall man from another dimension has got absolutely NO control over what he projects in the Force OR in his dynamic.
Obi-Wan was ALSO transplanted from canon to omegaverse, and is also an omega, for contrast reasons. He is nice and friendly and and likes poetry and that sort of thing... but also he has the highest dismemberment count in the movies. Also he doesnā€™t prioritize romance.
We went with the second one because it's hilarious.
Someone watching them spar: Wow, omegas from that universe are terrifying.
As previously mentioned, now with some tweaking to account for both: Obi-Wan and Anakin just straight up don't exist until they drop headfirst into the council room, already covered in blood. (It's mostly not theirs.)
Nobody realizes either one is an omega until they "naturalize" to this dimension and Anakin goes into heat... and doesn't realize it, actually, because his primary symptom is heightened protectiveness and aggression. Everyone else with the right nose realizes, because the man has no control over his pheromone production, but Anakin? No. He just stabs. Heā€™s angry and horny and he will cut someone.
Ahsoka has no reaction to human pheromones but basically everyone smells Anakin's "my child!" reaction to her, so... Cool. Have a padawan, we guess.
Anakin ends up sparring a lot with Aayla and Ahsoka, because only humans and near humans have dynamics, so these two don't REACT to the pheromones situation.
(Palpatine is a Kindly Old Beta who tries to treat Anakin the way he EXPECTS Anakin wants to be treated, which is. Not. Accurate.)
(Anakin hates it.)
I'm just so in love with "An omega can't fight." "You wanna fuckin' bet?"
There are plenty of omega Jedi, by the way, it's just... most of them can keep it relatively low-key instead of Anakin's jet-engine broadcast. Some, if they're known to be omega, probably take advantage of being underestimated, like Obi-Wan probably (and especially a version of Obi-Wan that was always an omega, unlike this version). They have a very different way of presenting themselves than Anakin, who's not subtle about being an omega and also not subtle about being all aggressive and stabby.
At one point, Anakin has to protect some Very Traditional Individuals who get all "Stay back, Omega, it's not safe!" and he's just... so tired of this shit. ā€œYou are squishy civilians and I'm a trained Jedi Knight and accomplished GAR General who's killed more people in one sitting than there are in this entire palace. Sit the fuck down and let me do my job.ā€
It starts making the rounds that Anakin insisted on fighting in person, and the rumors shift from "how dare the Jedi force an omega to fight" and over into things that are deeply hurtful in-universe in the vein of "broken omega" and some people try to say it to his face but like...
He didn't grow up here.
He doesn't care.
Say that to one of his friends and he's going to rip out your spleen, probably, but say it to him and he's just staring at you flatly and asking if that's a negative on getting away from the encroaching battle droids, sir?
"You're rather unpleasant for an omega, aren't you?" [deeply offensive] "I literally could not give less of a fuck about your opinion. Move."
It's not that there aren't omegas that act like Anakin, either, it's just that most of them aren't, you know, Jedi who regularly interact with the upper crust, or capable of his level of destruction. Unbeknownst to Anakin, everyone clocks him as Outer Rim based on his behavior, well before his accent gives him away, and certainly before he mentions he's from Tatooine, because Core Omegas Don't Act Like That.
Someone they meet in a more diplomatic setting says something decently passive-aggressive about how at least Obi-Wan acts more like how an Omega should. Then a battle breaks out for some reason, and... well. Anakin and Obi-Wan cause such a scandal by keeping score of kills in a battle, donā€™t you know?
Turns out sending Anakin to fight Ventress is great because she keeps expecting him to react a certain way but NO he's here to STAB.
I like the idea that Obi-Wan's favorite opponent these days is Grievous because the cyborg doesn't have a nose, and thus gives zero fucks about dynamics or heats. Dooku is a rich old man who has opinions heavily influenced by Sith Juice Making Him More of a Dick, and the Dathomiri can smell dynamics even if they don't have them, and so they have biases about those things. Meanwhile, Grievous is just there to Kill, and Obi-Wan genuinely appreciates the lack of commentary on his dynamic.
Dookuā€™s probably an alpha, or a beta who's used the whole "we are more level-headed" thing as one of several angles to keep himself the public face and supreme commander of the CIS.
On to more fluffy things that have less to do with political biases.
There's a lot of "I'm upset that my loved ones don't know me," but also please understand the appeal of Obi-Wan marching up to Quinlan like "Yes, hello, I understand you've been read in on the full situation behind myself and my former padawan. I was close friends with your alternate universe self, which I feel is necessary disclosure before I propose the following: Would you like to join me for my upcoming heat, as I have minimal experience with the dynamics situation and even fewer people I actually trust, and I believe I can put my faith in you to treat it as casually as necessary while still having control and respect for my person."
(The Team is in a fairly safe place to process stuff, but having sudden unexpected changes to your biology has gotta be a little traumatizing, on top of ending up in a universe where none of your friends know you and people have a whole host of unfamiliar forms of sexism to point at you.)
Obi-Wan, who wasn't quite touch-averse but was much more easily overwhelmed by physical contact than Anakin (who craved it), suddenly finds his body switching gears and insisting on cuddles with Trusted Loved Ones, which is.... mostly Anakin, on account of nobody else really knowing him yet. Also Ahsoka, who is aware that she's something of a replacement for her alt-universe self, but Anakin explained it as "I love you so much no matter which dimension I'm in or what you're like, and I'd like to get to know you the way I got know her."
(It's rather eloquent for Anakin. He got Obi-Wan to help him draft up the script for when he pitched taking on omegaverse Ahsoka as a padawan.)
Anakin gets a more intensely sexual heat than 'usual' at one point for Reasons (IDK it could be as innocuous as 'we got better food than the usual rations and my body is reacting to the higher fat content with the belief that it's safer to have a baby now'), which nobody takes a whole lot of notice of because they're in a WAR, and also this is only his fourth one so it's not like he's got a lot to compare it to... except then the predominantly alpha clones can't stop themselves from reacting to the pheromones, mostly by wandering past his door and asking if he needs anything, offering up alpha-scented blankets and stuff for the nest to soothe the hormones, bringing snacks and electrolyte drinks, and like, Anakin is flattered, really, but fuck off please.
(He got a warning from medical a few hours before it hit that it would be different, so he actually does have alpha-scented fabrics to help him out. Apparently that's a thing you can just ask friends for, so he asked Rex if he had anything on hand that he could spare. He now has one of Rexā€™s recently-used sheets and a bodyglove in the nest.)
(Anakin has no idea how to feel about the nesting instinct, but at least itā€™s warm.)
Tia asked "Oh hey, who has the scared and horny reaction to his carnage?" and like.
Listen. I'm not saying I've been low-key imagining this as Rex being a very subby alpha who's really into Anakin's whole Thing but...
At one point Anakin gets injured in a way that requires painkillers and he ends up whining to the point of almost crying about the fact that nobody is cuddling him right now in medbay and Kix just gives up and comms Ahsoka to come hug her weird older brother.
And Then There Is Purring.
Thatā€™s a Thing Now.
Rex ends up in the pile somehow. He came over to check on Things and ended up yanked in by half-asleep, half-high Anakin, who has a grip like an octopus and no impulse control and is purring like a pod motor while NUZZLING HIM.
Thereā€™s a lot of blackmail photos featuring Rexā€™s very intense blush as heā€™s cuddled by his commander (giggling at him) and general (clinging like a tooka and rubbing himself all over).
Anakin is deeply offended that ANYONE thinks he'd want to get pregnant by just any old person, NO he needs to fall in LOVE there needs to be EMOTIONAL DRAMA and if Padme won't have him (apparently she's in a relationship and no he's not BITTER) then he'll find someone else to have a whirlwind romance with!
People think Anakin's a slut because he can't control his pheromone production (he has NO practice and for health reasons he can't go on suppressants) so he always smells open and ready for flirtations, which Obi-Wan also has to a somewhat lesser degree (he's older so his body just naturally produces less), and then someone tries to cross a boundary and grabs his ass and ANYWAY Anakin has to now fill out an incident report for breaking a civilian's arm.
Again.
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Alright, I read your recent post and need to know - what is your interpretation of Maglorā€™s relationship with the twins?
askjdhslkjag my biggest self-inflicted problem in this fandom is that my take on maglor, elrond, and elros' relationship is so intensely detailed and specific i am forever tormented by none of the fic i read ever quite getting it right (from my perspective; iā€™ve read plenty of fic that presents a good interpretation on their own terms, itā€™s just never mine.) itā€™s simultaneously way darker than the fluffy kidnap dads stuff and nowhere near as black-and-white awful as the anti-fĆ«anorian crowd likes to paint it, itā€™s messy and complicated and surrounded by darkness, and yet thereā€™s also a sincere connection within it which mostly serves to make all those complications worse. angry teenage elrond is angry for a great many reasons, and the circumstances around him being raised by kinslayers account for at least half of them. thereā€™s lots of complexity here, and i donā€™t see it in fic nearly as often as iā€™d like
(warning: the post... feathers? i already have an internet friend called faeiri this could be awkward - anyway, the post sheā€™s talking about includes the line ā€˜everyone is wrong about kidnap dads except me.ā€™ this post follows on from that in being as much a commentary about why various popular interpretations of both how the kidnapdoption went and the way people subsequently characterise the twins just donā€™t work for me as it is a setting out of my own ideas. iā€™m not really interested in getting into discourse here, iā€™m just trying to get my thoughts down. iā€™ve read fic with these interpretations before that iā€™ve liked, even, donā€™t take this as a Condemnation, aight? also this turned out long as hell, so iā€™m putting it under a cut)
i can never buy entirely fluffy depictions of kidnap dads
which isnā€™t to say i donā€™t read them! sometimes all i want is something sweet, for these kids to get to be happy for once. itā€™s not like i think their time with the fĆ«anorians was completely devoid of laughter
itā€™s just. the pet names, the special days out, the home-cooked meals, it can get so treacly it stops feeling like the characters they are in the situation theyā€™re in and turns into Generic Found Family #272
it soaks out all the complexity - which is the thing i am here for - and acts like oh, these kids were never in any danger, they were perfectly happy being abducted by the people who murdered everyone they knew, thereā€™s nothing possibly questionable about this relationship at all
and... yeah. thatā€™s not the characters i know. thatā€™s not the context i know they belong to
i just canā€™t forget the circumstances that led them to meet
rivers of blood, the air filled with screams, a town ablaze, a woman choosing to die. every interaction the three of them have is going to proceed from that nightmare
(sidenote: i tend to hold it was maglor that raised the twins, with maedhros looming ominously in the background not really getting involved. itā€™s mostly personal preference, iā€™ve been in and out of the fandom since before this kidnap dads thing blew up and when i joined that was a perfectly standard reading)
(also the cave thing was a dumb idea, old man, if only because it implies beleriand had streams safe enough for children to play in at that point. the way it separates the twins from the third kinslaying is also something i donā€™t particularly vibe with)
probably my least favourite angle iā€™ve seen on the situation (edged out only by ā€˜maglor was actively abusive towards the twinsā€™ which no no no no no no no no NO) is the idea that maglor (and/or maedhros, append as necessary) took the twins specifically to raise them
like, i get where itā€™s coming from, but it makes maglor come off as really creepy
(i have read fics where it is indeed played off as really creepy, but thatā€™s not a maglor i have any interest in reading about)
(ā€™mags 100% badā€™ is just as facile a take to me as ā€˜mags 100% goodā€™)
even if youā€™re saying maglor took them in because they had no one left to take care of them - i highly doubt they were the only children the fĆ«anorians orphaned at sirion. idk, it always makes maglor seem much less sympathetic than i think itā€™s meant to
i prefer to think of it as more... organic? something that evolved, not something that was preordained. them growing closer gradually, the twins finding an adult who might maybe be on their side, maglor becoming invested in them almost by accident
and then the twins are so comfortable with the second scariest monster in amon ereb they frequently sass him off and maglorā€™s gotten so used to not hurting them heā€™s not even thinking about it any more. no oneā€™s quite sure how it happened, but theyā€™ve made a Connection
ā€˜wait arenā€™t they a murderous warlord of questionable mental stability and a pair of terrified small children whoā€™ve lost everyone they ever knew? isnā€™t that kinda fucked up?ā€™ yup! thatā€™s the point! complexity!
another idea i donā€™t like is the idea that maglor was an objectively better parent to the twins than eƤrendil or elwing
other people have talked about this already, i wonā€™t rehash the whole thing. i will say that while i donā€™t think elwing was a perfect parent - someone so young, in such a horrible situation, i wouldnā€™t blame her for screwing up - i do think she (and eƤrendil) did the best by them they possibly could
this is one of the few things they have in common with maglor
something i come across now and again is the idea that sure, elwing and eƤrendil werenā€™t abusive or horrible or anything, but they were a couple of basically-teenagers with so many other responsibilities, there was only so much they could do. maglor, on the other hand, is an experienced adult who could take much better care of the twins
and...
first off, itā€™s not like mags doesnā€™t have a job. heā€™s a warlord, he has a fortress to help run, military shit to handle, lots of other stuff that needs to get done to stop everyone from starving or getting eaten by orcs. i feel like sirion had enough of a government there was plenty of opportunity for elwing to take days off and play with her kids, but in the fĆ«anorian camp nobody really has the time to chase after a couple of toddlers, least of all one of the last points on the command network. they just donā€™t have the people any more
(seriously, the twins getting a formal education with tutors and classes and shit is a weirdly specific pet peeve of mine. this is a band of renegades, not a royal household; if thereā€™s anyone left with those kinds of skills they almost certainly have more important things to do)
more than that, though - well, a quick glance through my late stage fĆ«anorians tag should tell you a lot about what i think maglorā€™s mental state is like at this point. he is so accustomed to violence death means nothing to him, heā€™s lost most of his capacity for genuinely positive emotion to an endless century of defeat and despair, he hates everything in the universe, especially himself, heā€™s only able to keep functioning through a truly astounding amount of denial, and he covers it all up with a layer of snark and feigned apathy, which he defends aggressively because heā€™s subconsciously realised that if it breaks heā€™ll have absolutely nothing left
(maedhros, for the record, is... iā€™d say more stable, but at a lower point. maglor may interact with the world mostly through cold stares and mocking laughter, but at least his mind is firmly rooted in the present)
(on the other hand, at least maedhros lets himself be aware of what they are and where their road will lead)
which... this doesnā€™t mean maglor doesnā€™t try to be kind to the twins, or rein in his worst impulses around them
thereā€™s just so little of him left but the weapon
he stalks through the halls like a portent of death and gets into hours-long screaming matches with maedhros and has definitely killed people in front of the twins
not even as, like, a deliberate attempt to scare them, but because when you solve most of your problems by stabbing them itā€™s pretty much a given that people who spend a lot of time around you are going to see you do it at least once
and sometimes, he curls up in an empty hallway, and weeps
... suffice it to say i donā€™t think elwingā€™s the more preoccupied, or the less mentally ill, parent here
just. in general, the fĆ«anorians arenā€™t cackling boogeymen, but theyā€™re not particularly nice either
no one has the energy left for that. not these isolated and weary soldiers at the end of a long losing war and the beginning of the end of the world. they donā€™t really bother to guard the kids against them escaping. where else are they going to go?
the sheer despair that must have been in the fĆ«anorian camp after sirion, the knowledge that the cause cannot be fulfilled, that they are utterly forsaken, that theyā€™re really just waiting to die -
it canā€™t have been a happy place to grow up in, under the shadow of loss and grief and deeds unrepentable, and the slow march of inevitable defeat
they would have had a better childhood if they stayed in sirion, raised by people who knew how to hope
but that isnā€™t the childhood they had. and despite everything iā€™ve said, i donā€™t think that childhood was an entirely awful one
yeah, see, this is where the other side of my self-inflicted fandom catch-22 comes in. just as much of the pro-kidnap dads stuff comes off as overly saccharine and simplified to me, i find much of the anti-kidnap dads stuff equally simplistic in the opposite direction
the idea that maglor and the fƫanorians never meant anything to elros and elrond, that they had no effect on the people they became at all, that it was just a horrible thing that happened when they were children, easily thrown in the rear-view mirror...
thatā€™s even more impossible to me than the idea that life with the fĆ«anorians was 100% fluffy and nice
like, iā€™ve seen the take that elros and elrond hated the fĆ«anorians from start to finish. they were perfect little sindarin princes, loyal to their people and the memory of doriath, spurning every scrap of kindness offered to them and knowing just what to say to twist the knife into the kinslayersā€™ wounds
... dude. they were six. hell, given their peredhelness, mentally they could easily have been younger
what six year old has a firm grasp of their ethnic identity? what six year old is fully aware of their place in history? what six year old would understand the politics that led to their situation?
donā€™t get me wrong, i can see hatred in there. but something else that doesnā€™t get acknowledged alongside it often enough is the fear
some of the stuff iā€™ve read feels like it gives the kids too much power in the situation. theyā€™re perfectly happy to talk back to and belittle the people who burned down their hometown and killed everyone they ever knew, like miniature adults who donā€™t feel threatened at all
and, like, six. i can see them going for insults as a defensive measure, but it is defensive. itā€™s covering up fear, not coming from secure disdain
(and a lot of those insults sound, again, like things an adult whoā€™s already familiar with the fĆ«anorians would say, not a scared child whoā€™s lost almost everything. why would a six year old raised by sindar and gondolindrim know what the noldolantĆ« is, let alone what it means to maglor?)
(... iā€™m just ranting about this one fic thatā€™s been ruffling my feathers for five years straight now, arenā€™t i)
i mean, i write elrond as the worldā€™s angriest teenager, who snipes at maglor pretty much constantly, but the thing about angry teenage elrond is that heā€™s angry teenage elrond
heā€™s spent long enough with the fĆ«anorians he has a pretty secure position within the camp, and he knows that maglor wonā€™t hurt him from a decade and change of maglor not, in fact, hurting him
but as a small and terrified child abducted by the monsters his mother had nightmares about? he fluctuated wildly between ā€˜randomly guessing at things to say that wouldnā€™t get him killedā€™ ā€˜screaming at maglor to go away in words rarely more complicated than thatā€™ 'desperately trying not to do or say anything in the hopes of not being noticedā€™ and ā€˜hidingā€™
(and i donā€™t think the twins were never in any danger from the fĆ«anorians, either. quite besides the point that before they started orbiting maglor nobody was really sure what to do with them... well, they wouldnā€™t be the first children of thingolā€™s line the minions took revenge on)
(fortunately for them, maglor did, in fact, take them under his wing. by this point even their own followers are shit scared of the last two sons of fĆ«anor, nobodyā€™s going to mess with their stuff and risk getting mauled. tactically, it was a pretty good decision for a couple of toddlers)
more to the point, i feel like a child that young, in a situation that horrible, wouldnā€™t reject any kindness they were offered, any soothing touch in a universe of terror
in a world full of big scary monsters, the best way to survive is to get the biggest scariest monster possible to protect you. thatā€™s how elros rationalises it when theyā€™re, like, eight, mentally, but at the time they were just latching on to the only person around them who seemed to care about them
thatā€™s how it started, on their end. two very young very scared children lost in a neverending nightmare clinging tightly to the lone outstretched pair of hands
as for maglor...
iā€™ve called mags evil before, but i see that as more of a... technical term? he is evil because he did the murder, he remains evil because he wonā€™t stop doing the murder. hot take: murder bad
but that doesnā€™t make him, like, a moustache-twirling saturday morning cartoon villain. he is deeply unhappy with the position heā€™s in and the person heā€™s become, and heā€™s always trying not to take that final step over the edge
itā€™s not that i canā€™t see a maglor who is abusive or manipulative or who sees the twins more as objects than people. itā€™s just that that characterisation is one i am profoundly uninterested in. i do occasionally read fic with it, but it never enters my own headcanons
horrible people can do good things!! kinslayers can do good things!! the fallen are capable of humanity!! people can do both good and evil things at the same time, because people are complicated!! maglor is not psychologically incapable of actually taking pity on these kids!!!!
itā€™s... again, complexity. the fĆ«anorians straddle the line between black and white, which is a lot less sharp in the legendarium than itā€™s sometimes characterised as. itā€™s what draws me to their characters so much, why i have so many stupid headcanons about them. pretending they fall firmly on either side of the line is my real fandom pet peeve
and, like, this moment? this sincere connection between a bloodstained warlord and two children who will grow up to be great and kind in equal measure? i may not entirely like the direction the fandomā€™s taken it recently, but that beat, that relationship, it still gets me
so no, i donā€™t think elrond and elrosā€™ years with the fĆ«anorians were an endless cavalcade of abuse and misery. i think there was love there, despite the darkness all around them
an old, tired monster, and the two tiny children it protects
maglor never hurts the twins, not ever, not once. his claws are sharp and his fangs are keen, if he so much as swatted them heā€™d rip them in half. instead he folds down the razor edges of his being, interacting with them ever so carefully. he has nightmares of suddenly tearing into their skin
seriously, the power differential between them is so great, maglor so much as raising his voice would break any trust they have in this horribly dangerous creature. fics where he does corporal punishment always get the side-eye from me
the mood of their relationship is... i find it hard to put into words. melancholy, maybe, like a sunny afternoon a few days before the end of the world. three people whoā€™ve lost so much finding what respite they can in each other as the world slowly crumbles around them
there are times when it feels like the three of them exist in a world of their own, marked out by the edges of the firelight. maglor telling stories of the stars, elros giving relaxed irreverent commentary, elrond getting a few moments to just be, all their troubles kept at bay
they are the last two lights in a world sunk into darkness, the last two living beings he does not on some level hate. he will tear his own heart out before he sees them in pain
he teaches them to ride, he teaches them to read, he gives them everything he still has left. the twins should never have been in this situation, maglor probably isnā€™t entirely fit to take care of them, but it is what it is, and they take what love they can
(maglor depends on the twins emotionally a bit more than any adult should rely on any child. heā€™s still very much the caretaker in their relationship, but that relationship is the only one he has left thatā€™s not stained by a century of rage and grief. heā€™s obsessed with them, maedhros tells him frequently. maglorā€™s standard response to this is to try to gouge maedhrosā€™ eyes out)
(that particular darker side to their relationship, where maglorā€™s attachment to the twins turns into a desperate possessiveness - thatā€™s not something i think iā€™ve ever seen in fic. which is a shame, it feels much closer to my own characterisation than the standard ways this relationship gets maleficised. darker, in a different way than usual. horribly compelling in its plausibility)
however you want to read it, i donā€™t think you can deny this is a relationship that defines elrond and elrosā€™ childhood. they were raised in the woods by a pack of kinslayers, the text is quite clear on this
but iā€™ve seen a lot of talk about how elros and elrond are only sirionā€™s children. they are completely 100% sindarin, they love and forgive eƤrendil and elwing thoroughly and without question, they identify with doriath over - even gondolin, let alone tirion. the fĆ«anorians - the people who raised them - had zero effect on the people they grew into and the selves they created
and that, more than anything else, i find utterly unbelievable
look, i get what this is a reaction to. a lot of the kidnap dads stuff paints the fĆ«anorians as elrond and elrosā€™ ā€˜realā€™ family, and iā€™ve already talked about what i think of the idea that maglor-and-possibly-also-maedhros were better parents than eƤrendil and elwing. i think itā€™s reductive and overly optimistic and just a little too neat
but to say instead that elrond and elros held no great love in their hearts for maglor, no lingering affinity with the fƫanorians, no influence on their identity from the people they grew up around, none at all? that after it happened they just left it behind and resumed being the same people they were in sirion?
that strikes me as just as much an oversimplification. it sands down all the potential rough edges of their identity, all that inconvenient complexity that stops them from fitting into any well-defined box, and replaces it with a nice safe simple self-conception i find just as flat and boring as declaring them 100% fƫanorian
we can quibble over who they call ā€˜fatherā€™ (i personally find that whole debate kinda petty) but denying that it was actually maglor who was the closest thing they knew to a parent for most of their childhoods, and that that would, in fact, affect the way they thought of themselves and their family, elides so many interesting possibilities out of existence
(iā€™m not even going to get into the most braindead take i have ever heard on the subject, namely that because their time with the fĆ«anorians was such a small fraction of elrondā€™s total lifespan it was like being kidnapped for two weeks as a toddler and had no greater significance than that. do you not understand what childhood is????)
like, i tend to think of elrond as a child as being very loudly not-a-fĆ«anorian. elros is more willing to go with the flow - hey, if the creepy kinslayer wants kids, elros is happy to play into that in order to not be murdered - but elrond is very firm that heā€™s not happy to be here and he doesnā€™t belong with them
(this is after they get over their initial terror, of course, when theyā€™ve realised they wonā€™t be fed to the orcs for the tiniest slight. even so, elrond only really gets shirty about it around people heā€™s comfortable with, whose reactions he can reasonably guess at. naturally, the first person he does it to is maglor)
elros calls maglor their father exactly once, when theyā€™re... maybe early preteens? this is because elrond hears him do it and immediately loses his shit. they have a dad, elrond says, in tears, and a mum, and any day now their real parents are going to come to pick them up and take them home
... right?
it gets harder to believe as the years roll on, as their memories of sirion fade, as they find their own places within the host, as maglor watches over them as they grow. elrond still mentally sets himself apart from the fĆ«anorians, but itā€™s more of an effort every year. life in the fĆ«anorian camp is the only one heā€™s ever really known. he can barely remember his motherā€™s voice
then the war of wrath starts, and the fĆ«anorian host drifts closer to the army of valinor, and the twins come into contact with non-fĆ«anorians for the first time in forever, and it becomes clear just how obviously fĆ«anorian elrond is. he always insisted he wasnā€™t like the kinslayers at all, but he dresses like them, talks like them, fights like them
the myth cycles the edain tell are almost completely unfamiliar to him, he barely remembers the shape of the songs of lost doriath. even these sarcastic commentary and subversive reinterpretations he made of maglorā€™s stories - those were still maglorā€™s stories! heā€™s been trying to guess at the person he was meant to be, but itā€™s growing nightmarishly blatant how little elrond ever knew about him
instead, the people he was born to are as alien to him as the orcs of morgoth. he is a fƫanorian, through and through
... yeah, elrond (and/or elros) having an absolutely massive identity crisis upon being reintroduced to his quote-unquote ā€˜true kinā€™ is another angle iā€™d love to see in fic that i donā€™t think iā€™ve ever come across. all those potential grey areas around who they are and who theyā€™re supposed to be sound utterly fascinating, and i think itā€™s the complexity i hate to see elided over the most
i really, really doubt they could effortlessly slot back into being eƤrendil and elwingā€™s children. not when theyā€™ve been surrounded by, lived alongside, been raised by the people who were supposed to enemies for most of their lives
they just donā€™t fit into that box any more. they canā€™t
speaking of eƤrendil and elwing, while i do agree that they both (especially elwing) get a lot more flak than they deserve, i donā€™t agree that therefore elrond and elros were never the slightest bit mad at them and fully forgave them for everything with no reservations
because, well, they were left behind. elwing had no other choice, but they were still left behind; it led to the world being saved, but they were still left behind. all the best intentions in the universe donā€™t erase the weeks and months and years of waiting, of a hope that grew thinner and frailer until it finally quietly broke
thatā€™s a real hurt, and a real grievance. even if the twins rationally understand that their parents were making the best out of their terrible situation, you canā€™t logic away emotions like that. itā€™s perfectly possible for them to know they have no reason to resent eƤrendil or elwing, and yet still harbour that bitterness and pain
(i did write a thing once where elrond loudly rejects eƤrendil as his father in favour of maglor, but something i didnā€™t add in that i probably should have is that elrond later regretted doing that)
(not like, several centuries later, when heā€™d grown old and wise. two hours later, when heā€™d calmed down. but he was still legitimately angry at eƤrendil, because the one thing angry teenage elrond was not lacking in was reasons to be mad at the adults around him, and before he could figure out if he had anything less furious to say the hosts of the valar left middle-earth behind)
(itā€™s another element to the tragedy of the whole thing. in that particular story, which is mostly aiming for maximum pain, the only thing elrondā€™s birth parents know about their son for thousands of years is that he hates them)
(and he doesnā€™t, not really. you canā€™t hate someone youā€™ve never known)
not that i think they couldnā€™t ever make up with their parents! fics where elrond and his birth parents work past all the things that lie between them and form a functional familial bond despite it all give me life. i just donā€™t like the idea that thereā€™s nothing difficult for them to work past
i donā€™t like the idea that elrond and elros would naturally, effortlessly identify with the mother they last saw when they were six and the people they only vaguely remember. i can see them doing it as a political move, i can see them going for it as a deliberate personal choice, but i canā€™t seeing it being immediate and automatic and easy
no matter how great a pair of heroes eƤrendil and elwing are, that doesnā€™t change the fact that to elrond and elros, theyā€™re at most a few scattered memories and a collection of far-off stories. and so long as the twins stay in middle-earth, theyā€™re never going to draw any closer
compared to the dynamic, multifaceted, personal, and deep bonds they have with the fƫanorians - who, and i know i keep saying this but i think it gets tossed aside way more casually than it should, are the people who actually raised them, their birth parents must feel like a distant idea
and thatā€™s why i can never buy interpretations of elrond as 100% sindarin, a pure son of doriath, with no messy grey areas or awkward jagged edges to his identity. given everything we know about his life, it seems almost cartoonishly simplistic
honestly it seems like a narrative a bunch of old doriathrin nobles trying to manouevre elrond into being high king of the sindar or something would propagate. it's neat and nice and tidy, something thatā€™d be much more convenient for everyone if elrond did feel that way
but i just donā€™t see how he can. this narrative is easy and simple in a way real people never are, it ignores all the forces pulling him apart. elrond being uncomplicatedly sindarin with the life he lives and the people he's close to - that doesnā€™t make any sense to me
which isnā€™t to say i think heā€™s 100% noldorin, from either a gondolindrim or a fĆ«anorian perspective. (i find it a little more believable, given, again, who he grew up around and who he hangs out with, but itā€™s still a bit too reductive for my tastes.) itā€™s also not to say i couldnā€™t believe an elrond who made an active choice to emphasise his sindarin heritage
itā€™s not how i think of him, but it works. i donā€™t have a problem with other people interpreting the complexities of the twinsā€™ identities differently
i just have a problem with people acting like it doesnā€™t exist
in general i think thereā€™s a lot untapped potential that gets left behind when you declare the twins, separately or together, as All One Thing
theyā€™re descended from half the noble houses of beleriand, and they have deep personal ties to most of the rest. they belong to all of the free peoples even the dwarves, somehow, probably and i feel like that was kind of the old manā€™s point? so many peoples meet in them, to say they wholly belong to any one species is probably an oversimplification
they sit at a crossroads of potential identities, and rather than narrowing down their worldviews to one single path, they take the hard road and choose all of them. thatā€™s what you need to do, if you want to change the world
and, to bring this back to my ostensible topic, in my estimation at least this mĆ©lange of possible selves does include them as fĆ«anorians! itā€™s not overpowering, but itā€™s certainly there, and the adults they grow into long after theyā€™ve left the host still bear influence from their childhood
nothing super obvious, nothing that wouldnā€™t stand out if you didnā€™t know what to look for, but thereā€™s something almost incandescent in how fiercely elros reaches out for his dreams
thereā€™s something almost defiant in elrondā€™s drive to be as kind as summer
as for who they publically claim as their family... honestly, it depends. while itā€™s usually more tactically prudent for elros to connect himself to his various human ancestors, on occasion he does find a use for his free in with the elf mafia, and elrond, code switcher par excellence, is famously the son of whoever is most politically convenient at the moment, which is rarely, but not never, maglor
(in the privacy of their own minds, well, eƤrendil and elwing may have been the parents elros was supposed to have, but maglor was the parent he actually had, and elros doesnā€™t particularly care to mope over what might have been. elrond, for his part, figures that after all the shit maglor has put him through, the least that bastard owes him is a father)
but honestly? i think before any of their mountain of identities, before thinking of themselves as sindarin or gondolindel or hadorian or haladin or fƫanorian or anything, elrond and elros identify as themselves
they are peredhil, they are nĆŗmenĆ³reans, they are whoever they make themselves to be. thatā€™s how elrond finally resolved his identity, figured out who he was and found something past the pain and the rage
he wasnā€™t doriathrin, or gondolindrin, or falathrin, or fĆ«anorian, or whatever else. he was elrond, no more and no less
and that person, elrond, could be whatever he chose to be
... elros came to a similar conclusion, with much less sturm und drang that heā€™s willing to admit. being able to go ā€˜hey, i canā€™t possibly be biased towards any one of your cultures, because iā€™m descended from all of you and i was raised by murderelvesā€™ makes it a lot easier to unite people around your personal banner, turns out
the stories other people tried to force on them shattered into pieces, and the peredhel twins were free to shape themselves into anything they could dream of
and as the new world struggles alive, these lost children of an Age of death begin to bloom into their full glorious selves -
i just. i love the poetry of that. despite every single shadow that hangs over their past, despite all the clashing notes pulling them apart, they harmonise it all into a greater, kinder theme, determined to make their world a better place in whatever way they can
they fail, of course, but so do all things. the inevitable march of entropy doesnā€™t diminish the long millennia they (and their descendants) held onto the light
and their growing up in the fĆ«anorian host definitely had a huge effect on the noble lords they became. you can see it in elrosā€™ loud ambition to create a land of happiness and hope, elrondā€™s quiet resolve to heal all the hurts inflicted by this marred reality
it wasnā€™t a perfect time by any means, but neither was it a nightmare. it was what it was, a desperate existence at the edge of a knife where, nevertheless, they were loved
even after years upon decades upon centuries have passed, itā€™s hard for the wise king and the honourable sage to separate out and identify all the conflicting emotions swirling around their childhood. they never knew eƤrendil or elwing, true, but they also never really knew maglor
not as equals, not as adults, not as people who could truly understand him. he disappeared into the fog of history, leaving only childhood memories of razor-sharp, gentle hands
itā€™s messy and itā€™s complicated and getting any real closure would be like shoving their way through a thornbush with bare hands even if elrond could find the shithead, and yet at the core of it all, there is light. not the brightest of lights, maybe, but an enduring one
that contrast, above all, that note of warmth amidst the shadows, is what fascinates me so much about their relationship. three screwed up people in a screwed up world, finding a little peace with each other
and the fact that somehow, it does have a good ending - the children grow up magnificent and compassionate and just, they become exemplars of all their peoples, lodestars of the new world born out of the ashes of the old - that makes it seem to me like this relationship must have contained some fragment of happiness
but, fuck, all the darkness that surrounds that love, all the tangled-up emotions its existence necessitates, all the prefabricated self-identities it can never slot into - nothing about it is simple, nothing about it is easy, and i find that utterly enthralling. especially how, despite everything, that flickering light never goes out
well, i donā€™t think it does, anyway. my take on this relationship is both complicated enough no one else ever quite gets it right and well-defined enough every single ā€˜errorā€™ in other peopleā€™s interpretations sticks out like a kinslayer in rivendell
it is an entirely self-inflicted problem, i will admit. other people are allowed to interpret those complexities differently from me, and itā€™s entirely my own fault i lack the :waves hands around nebulously: to write my own hypothetical fic on the subject at a pace faster than glacial
still, though. i do wish there was more fic out there that engaged with these complexities. a lot of the common fandom interpretations of this relationship just sweep it all away
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cinnamonest Ā· 3 years ago
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Razor with a fem teacher darling.
Some sweet lil cute lady in Mondstadt that teaches little kids. Older than our boy, maybe 30s, just old enough to be very maternal (and so that sheā€™ll never see it coming of course). Conscripted by the knights to quit her day job and take on the task of teaching the wolf boy how to adapt to human society, how to speak and interact with others. They find that a normal approach overwhelms and confuses him, so they think your way of doing things would be best for someone... on his intellectual and social level.
They let him stay with her several hours a day and practice talking and teaching him things like the most basic words that he may need to know how to read, how to sign his name, basic addition/subtraction etc... He is like a kid in some ways, namely naivete and maturity, so you kinda deal with him as if he was, almost infantile, like giving him little mantras and poems they teach kids on how to remember basic manners/politeness, giving him stickers and other little trinket-y rewards for correct answers, which he cherishes quite a bit.
And he starts coming more and more often, doesn't want to leave, even stays sometimes overnight, and you let him, because you're glad he wants to learn about human life, so you let him sleep on your couch (although he often ends up just curling up on the floor anyway).
He becomes addicted to praise. Since you once taught little kids, you're used to that whole overenthusiasm people give kids, the "wow! Good job! I'm so proud!" And you give that to him too, because you wanna encourage him after all, and you figure he will only understand if you exaggerate the enthusiasm. He gets hooked on that and is constantly trying to earn your praise and approval, will do things and show them to you as he sits there expectantly, waiting for you to say he did good. Dips his head down expectantly, since you normally pet him on the head. Beaming smile and bright, wide eyes.
As such, the way you view him becomes... soft. Dangerously so, not that youā€™re aware of that aspect of it yet, but in your mind, heā€™s like a sweet kid, even ironically a bit puppy-like. Heā€™s so sweet, you tell the knights when giving a report on your progress. He wouldnā€™t hurt a fly.
And then he gets more... comfortable. As all people do in all kinds of relationships, they become less guarded, less careful, less afraid to be open and honest and allow their true self to come out.
Youā€™re forced to become aware of the ways in which he is very much not a kid. Namely physically. One time you told him you had to go for the night and you'd see him tomorrow, but he kept saying you couldn't go yet, he just wants five more minutes! But you sigh and say no, you really have to go, and he huffs and pouts and grabs you by the arm and pins you down. Not yet. Just a few more minutes, he says. You genuinely fear for a moment that heā€™s about to unintentionally snap your arm, he grips so tightly. You pull, but he doesnā€™t even budge, youā€™re not certain that he even processes that youā€™re struggling, even though you use your full strength.Ā You give a forced, scared smile and ask, hey, remember what we learned about selfishness? And how it's bad? How we canā€™t force other people do what we want? He hangs his head and says sorry, but seems sad about letting you go. The bruise he leaves lasts over a week. From that point forward, youā€™re acutely aware of the physical strength he possesses. But still, he didnā€™t mean to hurt you, he just didnā€™t understand, you think. Heā€™s still so sweet. He just needs some time.
He likes your attention. That is, he likes to have it. He does not like your attention being given to other things and people. It took you a while to figure out why people would always look so uncomfortable and leave mid-conversation when he was in the room, you couldnā€™t see how he glared and scowled at people while standing behind you. Once you realize it, you donā€™t get mad, because itā€™s not his fault, right? You tell yourself to be patient, just like with the kids. You just have to explain that itā€™s important to be nice to people. Treat others the way you want to be treated, you say. And how would he want to be treated? Nicely, right? So be nice in the future, ok? He nods, but you get the sense it didnā€™t really sink in.
And for one thing, you learn heā€™s, well, appropriately curious about human... love. Relationships. Sex. Very, very curious, and very eager to ask questions. He actually understands and is familiar with quite a bit, you discover (heā€™s probably witnessed more sex than you have, really), he just doesnā€™t really know the words, and substitutes as best as he can before you teach him the right words for his... unique terminology, which he uses when describing the things he would like to learn the words for:Ā The thing humans do where they hit each other with their mouths. When the girl-wolf is growing a baby inside and her stomach gets big. The thing mates do together. The white stuff the boy-wolves make, that comes out of their... thing, whatever the word is, tell him that word too, please. Not just wolves, he makes that white stuff too, he clarifies, because he has one of those things, just in case you didnā€™t know. You... handle it as maturely as you can. You tell him that yes, youā€™re aware he does, in fact, have one.
But you figure that curiosity is appropriate, heā€™s a sexually functioning adult, of course heā€™s curious. Heā€™s fascinated by the female anatomy diagram in the textbook you manage to find in the library, looks at it quite a bit, and, despite your embarrassment, you figure you have a responsibility to make sure he understands. Itā€™s not like itā€™s wrong, just awkward, so you willingly read the text when asked. Combined with the previous conversation, you soon realize a lesson in... appropriateness is probably needed. That is, since heā€™s started asking if you have those things too. Does it really look like that? Do those things really have milk in them? Can he feel them? The part of the book that shows the humans mating, why do they do it like that, facing each other? Do they ever do it the way wolves do? Have you done it before? You... have to tell him that he canā€™t go around asking other people questions like that. Itā€™s not appropriate, you explain, and your job is to help him understand what is and isnā€™t appropriate. He doesnā€™t seem to grasp why he canā€™t ask things like that, seems hurt, like he thinks you just donā€™t want to, so you have to explain that itā€™s just... a human social thing.
You soon realize maybe you didnā€™t explain it well enough. When he keeps staring at your chest, you have to remind him itā€™s rude.Ā And we donā€™t want to be rude, right? But he keeps asking why? Why is it bad? He doesnā€™t understand. When he has a very obvious raging hard-on and just sits there letting it visibly poke at the fabric, you awkwardly chime in that he might want to, uh, cover that up. But he tilts his head because he doesnā€™t understand why.
Itā€™s only the beginning of such appropriateness conversations. Once when youā€™re working on something, he wants to show you the work he did, he practiced writing some of those important words. But you tell him to hang on just a minute, Iā€™m working on something important.Ā He doesnā€™t like that, so he shoves your work off the desk and sends it crashing to the floor. There, now you donā€™t have to look at all that stuff and can focus on him instead, see? Isnā€™t his writing good? Arenā€™t you going to say he did good? He doesnā€™t understand why you seem upset, but you, having developed an incredible patience in years of working with kids, keep your cool and explain why thatā€™s not niceĀ and why we have to learn to be patient, ok? But you reassure him it isĀ good, put the cute sticker on his paper, and thatā€™s all that matters, he seems happy. You feel like he didnā€™t hear the important part.
In fact, you were so impressed by the progress in his speaking and intellectual skills that you were a bit blinded to the fact that heā€™s showing a... concerning lack of understanding some of the more practical social lessons youā€™ve been teaching.
You swear youā€™ve said a hundred times now that you canā€™t just pick up things you want and take them,Ā but he keeps doing it. You had to apologize profusely more times than you can count so the knights didnā€™t arrest him for theft, but you feel like theyā€™re starting to get tired of the he doesnā€™t understandĀ excuse.
And youā€™ve talked about being nice before, you swear, youā€™ve read several childrenā€™s books on the importance of niceness over and over, complete with pictures, and he seemed to like them. And he is sweet, precious even. ...To you. He just needs to work on applying those skills to everyone else, you always tell the superiors. To stop... scowling at people. To stop clinging to you, shyly hiding behind you like a child to their mother whenever someone new comes along. To stop ignoring when other people are trying to talk to him, and to stop interrupting other people who are talking to you when he decides that he wants you to be done with your current conversation and focus on him instead.
And most importantly, you tell them you need to work with him on the little... selfishness problem he seems to have. Stubbornness, rather.Ā  He does not like the word no. He huffs and pouts like a kid, getting sad and sulky. Nor does he react well to being denied anything, and especially not being reprimanded in any way. He sulks quite a bit whenever you get frustrated at him. And he doesnā€™t exactly... listen. Sometimes heā€™ll heed yourĀ ā€œno,ā€ and sometimes he... does what he wants anyway. You almost get the sense that he thinks that listening to you is optional. As sweet as he is, you become increasingly aware that he very much likes it when things go his way, and can become rather pouty when he canā€™t get his way.Ā 
It makes sense, you reason with yourself. Do what is necessary to obtain what you want. If you canā€™t get what you want, use force. Those are the laws of the wild, of survival in the animal world, are they not? Heā€™s just... adjusting. Heā€™s not used to such complex social constructs. Give him time.
He has to learn things canā€™t always go his way, especially since soon, youā€™ll have to return to your normal job, and heā€™ll be left to his own devices. They ruled that heā€™s improved enough that youā€™re no longer needed.
You do worry about that a bit. You worry how heā€™ll manage, and fear heā€™ll just go back to being a recluse in the woods, since the one thing he didnā€™t ever make much improvement on was forming bonds and socializing... well, with anyone besides you.Ā You always tried to make him feel like he had a place he was loved and appreciated -- the same you do with the kids.
You always sensed a sort of lonesomeness in the boy. At one point you began to more carefully curate the books you would find to read aloud to him, being sure to leave the ones that featured families in the ā€œdonā€™t readā€ pile. He would get a sad look on his face and stare wistfully at pages whenever the story contained a mother or a family in any way. Sometimes you would find him flipping through old books at the pictures, looking out the window at children roaming the streets with their parents, and you couldnā€™t help but wonder how often he thought about what he could have had, if at all, and you wonder if he ever wished he could have had normalcy. You try to be something of a mother figure he never had -- loving, supportive. Itā€™s the least you can do, right? Youā€™ve done plenty of things that you sensed could backfire, but certainly that kindness would not come to be something youā€™d regret.
And you expected him to react badly to the news that your time together would be ending, but not this badly. You reassure him itā€™s ok, youā€™ll visit him all the time! He can come visit you when school isnā€™t in session! He still seems upset, even tearful. Why canā€™t you stay with him?
You choose your words carefully. He tends to hear what he wants to hear, rather than what you actually say, so you try your best to be clear. So thereā€™s no confusion... so that he canā€™t twist your words.
Itā€™s not your decision to make, itā€™s the boardā€™s.
Itā€™s their fault. Theyā€™re keeping her away.
He can visit you any time youā€™re not busy.
(y/n) will be too busy to play. Too busy with other people.
But you have to go to work, itā€™s your primary responsibility.
Theyā€™re more important than her than me.
He eventually gets quiet, sulks as he does. You sigh and hope heā€™ll be able to accept it.
... You get the strangest feeling of... premonition as you wrap up for the day. Like something bad is going to happen. You turn to him and remind him that... remember, doing bad things will get you in trouble, right? Hurting people and stuff like that... is illegal in Mondstadt, remember?
He actually becomes very alert at those words, like heā€™s having a realization. Thatā€™s good, you think, he gets it.
The realization was actually the... implication of the words ā€œin Mondstadt.ā€ Itā€™s illegal and wrong... in Mondstadt. Heā€™s not the brightest person in the world, but that gives him an idea. In his mind, Mondstadt isn't the whole region, it's just the city. So outside of the city... If he gets you outside of the city, then, it'll be ok to do anything he wants right? Yes, that makes a lot of sense to him.
So as your days together draw to a close, he asks for one more thing. He visited you so much. Can you come visit him, just once? He wants to show you his home. It'll be fun, you think, you'd genuinely like that. So you smile and agree. You have no reason not to.
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makeste Ā· 4 years ago
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BnHA Chapter 302: As the Todoroki Turns
Previously on BnHA:Ā 
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Today on BnHA: We have a very fun chapter in which (1) Shouto grows up lonely on account of his parents being worried that his siblings will literally try to kill him, (2) Natsu and Fuyu grow up neglected on account of not being special and/or self-destructive enough to attract attention, (3) we get to revisit all of that exciting spousal abuse from chapter 39, and (4) Touya burns to death right on cue, pretty much exactly like we expected it to happen. Thankfully since this is a shounen manga, Horikoshi finds some hope in all this misery as the Todoroki family rallies together, with Shouto getting his long-overdue credit for being a perfect sweet angel who put up with all of this shit for sixteen years and somehow came out of it strong and kind and empathetic and determined. Anyway, so that flashback was a barrel of laughs. But now that itā€™s over, we can put all of that angst behind us, and move on to... well I guess, probably, more angst. Look, weā€™re short on variety at the moment. Bear with it.
ouch. we knew this was coming, but still
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A+ parenting move there. ā€œho boy, our eldest just tried to murder our youngest, now what? hmm how about we isolate our youngest from all human contactā€
though in their defense, we probably shouldnā€™t have expected this rabidly strength-obsessed fire man and his wife who was groomed since childhood to obey her familyā€™s whims to have any idea of how to raise stable, well-adjusted offspring
SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS
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this is a perfect example of Enjiā€™s tragically self-revolving viewpoint right here. just because being a hero is your entire world doesnā€™t mean you can just excuse yourself from anything outside of that and act like itā€™s out of your control. ā€œalas, all I care about is hero stuff and my son canā€™t be a hero, we are doomed to inhabit two different worldsā€ no you jackass, itā€™s called having more than one hobby?? figuring out how to spend some time with your son that doesnā€™t involve training?? the same exact thing you were telling him to do last week, while ignoring that youā€™ve never done that yourself in your life??
that said, yet again we have that complexity though because itā€™s obvious that Enji at least on some level is aware of his own flaws, even though he seems unwilling or unable to confront them. honestly, from what weā€™ve seen so far, Enjiā€™s obsession with surpassing All Might might be more accurately called an addiction. he literally canā€™t let go of it even though heā€™s fully aware of how itā€™s slowly destroying his life. and so in the same way that a lifelong smoker or alcoholic might tell their child to stay away from cigarettes and booze, Enji tells Touya not to follow down the same path as him, even though he himself doesnā€™t know how to leave that path. so yes, itā€™s hypocritical as fuck, but thereā€™s also an element of helplessness there as well because Enji literally doesnā€™t know how not to be like this
though all the same he sure could stand to put in more than just a token effort. but it is what it is, and we already know how much heā€™ll come to regret it
and meanwhile Baby Shouto has frozen his sleep bubble with his quirk lmao. so I guess his quirk did come in early. thatā€™s a recipe for chaos right there
once again Shouto is ruining every single dramatic panel in this flashback
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this was so dark and intense... and then I spotted the lil bubs in the corner. Horikoshi please control yourself
ā€œsome hero you are, running awayā€ and then all of a sudden, ā€œFIVE YEARS LATERā€ lol what. OKAY THEN
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(ETA: love the confirmation that eight-year-old Natsu comes from the Iida school of puberty and is basically a fully grown man, and meanwhile Touya comes from the hobbit school of puberty and has been perpetually eight for the past five years.)
ā€œHEY BIG BRO WANNA COME RECREATE AN ICONIC FLASHBACK SCENE WITH US. WEā€™VE GOT THE SOCCER BALL RIGHT HERE, BUT HURRY UP OR WEā€™LL BE TOO LATE FOR SHOUTO TO WALK ON BY AND STOP TO LOOKā€
lol and thatā€™s literally the next three panels. but Horikoshi did add this extra bit after Endeavor starts to drag Shouto away
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seriously Enji what the hell did you expect was going to happen here. ā€œTouya went nuts and tried to kill his little brother out of jealousy, so letā€™s make it clearer than ever that Shouto is the important child and all the other children are just rejects. this will definitely not make the problem 100x worse, and will surely lead to Touya giving up and living a happy life, having been emotionally abandoned by the person he admired more than anyone.ā€ good for you pal you figured it all out. no need for that plan b, ā€œwe all just go to therapyā€
anyway so heā€™s telling Shouto he canā€™t play because he needs more endurance training. and meanwhile Touyaā€™s patented Todoroki Drama Genes are going through puberty as well
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definitely the face of a happy, emotionally stable child whoā€™s not still plotting to murder his younger brother in his sleep
ā€œWELL ACTUALLY MAKESTEā€ lol I stand corrected??
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apparently during the five year interim Touya actually stopped blaming Shouto and realized Enji was the one at fault. good for him! a bit inconsistent, given what we know happens later, but I assume weā€™ll get to that in good time
anyway. ā€œyeah man I agree that dad sucks, but itā€™s the middle of the night and Iā€™m only eight and youā€™ve been monologuing for the past two hours broā€
LMAO
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the manga is making my jokes for me, only better. fine then
looks like someoneā€™s still miffed about that disagreement he had with his baby sister back when she was like four
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ā€œFuyu doesnā€™t get properly riled up like I want her to so ranting to her is annoying.ā€ okay but having been in Fuyuā€™s shoes, it really is just a different way of coping, and I can guarantee sheā€™s not as fine with the whole situation as Touya might think. but making your peace with something is often a decision thatā€™s made for emotional self-preservation reasons. and I sure as hell donā€™t fault her for trying to shut out a situation that she had no control over, and trying to make the best of it, and scrape together as normal a childhood as she could manage
and now in Touyaā€™s defense as well, that is of course easier said than done, and Iā€™m sure if there was a ā€œpush this button and instantly get over all of the trauma in your lifeā€ switch readily available for Touya then he would have pushed it too. unfortunately itā€™s not always that simple
so now Rei is pleading with Touya not to go train up on his little emo hill again, but it doesnā€™t seem like much has changed since he was eight
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I donā€™t think he gives two figs about being a hero; he just wants his father to look at him again with pride. fucking hell, stop doing this to me you damn Todorokis
guh, they keep telling him the same thing over and over again
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even if we hadnā€™t already known he was gonna go melt his jawbone off soon, I wouldnā€™t have expected a line like that to go over well
yep. fuck
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that Todoroki puberty angst, though. nothing else quite like it
ā€œyou have a part in this too, Momā€ ooooooh man
okay but look, heā€™s not entirely wrong. like, Iā€™m not saying any of this is Reiā€™s fault at all! sheā€™s in an impossible situation where sheā€™s afraid to stand up to Enji (who by this point has shown that heā€™s willing to physically attack her if things get too heated, which is terrifying), and doesnā€™t really have anywhere to turn for support. her parents arenā€™t helping much if at all, and Japan in general is just a terrible country to be in when youā€™re in a domestic abuse situation. everyoneā€™s expected to put on a brave face and deal with their problems all on their own in private. Rei is basically completely isolated at this point, and she doesnā€™t know what else to do, and so sheā€™s just trying to keep the situation as stable as possible for the kids
but on the other hand,Ā ā€œfor the kidsā€ is also where that argument starts to break down a bit, because at this point Shouto is also being physically abused by his father, and the other kids are continuing to be neglected (emotionally if not physically), as they have been for years. so the situation really isnā€™t stable at all for them. and as a kid, what you end up learning in that type of situation is that you canā€™t rely on either parent. not the abusive one, certainly, but also not the other one who canā€™t protect you from any of it. even if they love you and theyā€™re trying, theyā€™re just as helpless as you. Rei is struggling to deal with all of this with one hand tied behind her back, and I get it, and Iā€™m not blaming her at all. but all the same, particularly given that sheā€™s (understandably) putting almost all her focus on Shouto, the end result is that the other kids have basically been left to fend for themselves
so yeah! a shitty situation all around. and one of those cases where itā€™s not really anyoneā€™s fault (aside from Enjiā€™s), but I can understand the resentment Touya is feeling all the same. and Iā€™m so glad Horikoshi is acknowledging this, because itā€™s something I probably would have been too uncomfortable to bring up otherwise. as it is itā€™s still an incredibly heavy subject, and one that I probably have too many personal feelings about
anyway, so once again the whole ā€œweā€™ll try talking to him and then just shrug our shoulders when it doesnā€™t workā€ parenting strategy doesnā€™t really pan out for the Todoroki fam
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sob this boy is Anakin Skywalkering before our very eyes. all thatā€™s missing is AFO to come and start whispering in his ear. any minute now...
ā€œanyway so then he got taller and his fire changed from red to blueā€
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guess weā€™re getting pretty close then huh. this is the part of the flashback that I really donā€™t want to see, but also unfortunately the part that Iā€™m most curious about :/
oh for fuckā€™s --
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ā€œWHAT DO YOU MEAN IGNORING HIM FOR FIVE YEARS DIDNā€™T ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMā€ sob. back to the drawing board I guess
I thought he got taller, why is he still only like a third of Enjiā€™s height here
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oh fuck me these are armor-piercing feels. this is the heavy artillery right here
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ENJI Iā€™M BEGGING YOU PLEASE STOP AND THINK FOR ONE MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE BEFORE DOING SOMETHING YOUā€™LL REGRET FOR THE REST OF ALL TIME. your child just told you that he still thinks beating All Might is the only thing you care about, and that he believes his existence is a mistake unless he finds some way of doing that for you. please stop for a moment to contemplate that and choose your next words with care and grace and oh who the hell am I kidding
-- OR WE COULD JUST BLAME REI
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go on and blame everyone but yourself then!! thatā€™s a great solution!! jesus christ man I know this is Endeavor at his literal worst but still this is fucking hard to watch
POOR BABY SHOUTO IS YELLING AT HIS DAD NOT TO HIT HIS MOMMY THIS LITTLE BRAVE BOY NEEDS SO MANY HUGS OH MY GOD
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AND MEANWHILE THE OTHERS ARE HUDDLED IN THE NEXT ROOM TRYING NOT TO CRY AH FUCK
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(ETA: Fuyu covering Natsuā€™s ears cuts RIGHT TO THE CORE OF ME. Horikoshi if youā€™re really not gonna get these kids some therapy then at least consider giving your readers some. what is this.)
you know itā€™s bad when youā€™re starting to think the part where the kid burns to death might actually be a less traumatic thing to cut to right now
holy shit, actual Rei thoughts
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ā€œI was the one who ultimately made that choiceā€ well there we go, wonder if thatā€™ll put that whole argument to bed at last. I doubt it, but you never know. actually who am I kidding itā€™s not gonna settle jack shit lol
oh thank god, they decided it was getting too intense and cut away back to the present to narrate this next (final?) part
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get ready to cue up that Alicia Keys. THIS BOY IS ON FIREEEEEEE
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yeah I think thatā€™s one thing we can mostly all agree on. neither of them had any clue what the fuck they were doing pretty much at any point. though I will say that the hypocrisy of him being allĀ ā€œWHY DIDNā€™T YOU STOP HIMā€ followed by him IMMEDIATELY DOING THE EXACT SAME THING is a bit rich
(ETA: and he still has this problem, doesnā€™t he? he froze up when Ending snatched Natsuo, and again when Dabi was attacking Shouto. heā€™s so afraid of doing the wrong thing that he ends up not doing anything, which of course is exactly what led to Touyaā€™s death. damn Enji I guess youā€™ve still got some additional character development to unlock.)
and of course neither of them could possibly have known how badly it was going to turn out. like, the consequences here were WAY disproportionate even for the shittiest of parenting. no one expectsĀ ā€œI didnā€™t know how to talk to my sonā€ to snowball intoĀ ā€œmy son burned to death and then somehow came back as a villain and murdered thirty peopleā€
ohhhhhhhh fuck me
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LITERALLY INCINERATED THE ENTIRE HILLSIDE. fuck. and I am so not ready for the scene of Enji finding the remains of his jawbone afterwards. at least we were spared anything super-graphic (for now at least)
I feel like the timeline here is off, btw?? wasnā€™t Touyaā€™s death supposed to happen after Rei got hospitalized? this might be the first actual retcon of the entire flashback. although I think it makes more sense this way tbh
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I do appreciate that ten years later Enji is finally reflecting on the fact that if heā€™d just given up his stupid obsession he could have stopped his family from crumbling apart. that probably sounds sarcastic as fuck, but itā€™s not. there are countless jerks out there who would have still managed to find a way to blame literally everyone and everything under the sun except for themselves. at least he finally figured out how to take responsibility, even if it came too late to stop his son from dying and being radicalized into a villain terrorist organization
and speaking of, it seems to me weā€™re missing a third and final part to this little tale of woe, and one which only Touya himself will be able to shed any light on. so weā€™ll see how that goes
oh man seeing the other kids blaming themselves even though none of it was their fault hits hard af. Rei wasnā€™t kidding when she said theyā€™d been bearing that burden of guilt far longer than Enji
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SHOUTO I SWEAR TO GOD IF THE NEXT PANEL IS YOU APOLOGIZING FOR BEING BORN, I WILL... WELL Iā€™LL BE VERY SAD, I GUESS. SO DONā€™T DO IT
oh good heā€™s just being quiet. good. it absolutely is not your fault lil bean. itā€™s not theirs either, but feeling guilty about things that arenā€™t your fault is a time-honored shounen tradition
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goddammit I braced myself for the angsty Shouto panel a page too early. gotta do it all over again now lol. okay here goes
;_;
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well well well would you look at that
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imagine that. talking things out with your child before they make a rash decision. looks like the Todorokisā€™ parenting skills are finally leveling up
OH MY GOD
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holy shit. this is the most quintessential moment of father/son Todoroki bonding in the entire series. for me it even tops the ā€œnice scarā€ scene lol. Enji sobbing at the fact that he still has a chance to set things right. and Shouto offering his hand in what is actually the most mature and selfless gesture Iā€™ve ever seen, and being all ā€œweā€™ll stop him togetherā€ to his dad who he hates, but also doesnā€™t really entirely hate anymore. and all of that is incredibly moving... BUT ALSO HE STILL REFUSES TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM AND HE WOULD LIKE HIM TO STOP BEING SO FUCKING DRAMATIC ALREADY IF YOU DONā€™T MIND. ā€œWHEN YOUā€™RE DONE CRYING...ā€ fkjldsk
OH MY FUCKING LORD
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(ETA: wouldnā€™t be a Todoroki drama fest if there wasnā€™t somebody listening in on the whole thing in secret just around the corner lmao.)
ā€œyou think we should have waited somewhere else?ā€ ā€œyeah, probably.ā€ ā€œare you feeling a lot of secondhand embarrassment too?ā€ ā€œgod, you have no idea.ā€ STFU HAWKS ITā€™S NOT EMBARASSING TO BE MOVED TO TEARS BY YOUR FAMILY ALL COMING TOGETHER IN YOUR DARKEST HOUR TO GIVE YOU HOPE THAT YOU PROBABLY DONā€™T DESERVE BUT ARE NONETHELESS INDESCRIBABLY GRATEFUL FOR
and anyway you chose these guys as your found family, bucko. too late to back out now. next time go get yourself adopted by the Iidas then
AND MEANWHILE NO WORD ON THE WHOLE ā€œHOW DID A THIRTEEN-YEAR-OLD SURVIVE A FIRE THAT COVERED HIS BODY WITH HORRIFIC SCARS AND MELTED HIS JAW OFF, AND HOW DID HE SOMEHOW THEN MANAGE TO GO INTO HIDING FOR TEN WHOLE YEARS, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT INTERIM TO CHANGE HIS GOAL FROM ā€˜SURPASS ALL MIGHT TO IMPRESS MY DADā€™ TO ā€˜KILL ALL HEROES TO MAKE MY DAD SUFFERā€™.ā€ as if we donā€™t know the answer to that. but still, would it kill Horikoshi to just confirm AFOā€™s involvement in all of this already. at this point itā€™s basically just a formality
so hereā€™s hoping next week weā€™ll either get that, or more Hawks action, or (DARE I EVEN SUGGEST, Iā€™M AFRAID TO JINX IT) finally cut back to Bakugou and Deku and All Might omg. either way Iā€™m hyped
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have you eve done the fluff alphabet before? They can be kind of long but I'd love to hear your thoughts on Levi!
this is so cute, iā€™ve never done a fluff alphabet! this is the one iā€™ve seen go around by @snk-warriorsā€‹ (so cute thank u for sharing)
A ctivities - What do they like to do with their s/o? How do they spend their free time with them?
I think Levi is the type of partner who starts up a new hobby with a partner as a way of bonding with them. Like, the two of you just get super into candle-making together lmao. I think heā€™d want to spend most of his free time with his partner, even if itā€™s just in comfortable silence. He really appreciates feeling safe with his person and relishes in the mundane.
B eauty - What do they admire about their s/o? What do they think is beautiful about them?
Iā€™ll say it before and Iā€™ll say it again. Levi doesnā€™t really have a physical type. He really pays attention to peopleā€™s character first. He would really admire how his partner is constantly trying to be their best self, and admires their strength, and he thinks itā€™s beautiful that they can see the good in life, because it helps him see the good in life too. He would absolutely love the most random parts of your body, though. Maybe itā€™s your cheekbones, maybe itā€™s the shape of your hands. Something that he thinks is so unique to you.
C omfort - How would they help their s/o when they feel down/have a panic attack etc.?
Levi is not a man of many words a lot of the time, but he is a man of action. If his partner is feeling down in any way, heā€™s there physically to help you through it. Over time, he makes little mental notes of what seems to help and what doesnā€™t, so that he can continue doing the things that help you and stop doing the things that donā€™t. If you prefer just being held for a while, no talking, he catches on quickly and offers himself up. If you need to talk, he listens and makes sure you know youā€™re the only thing in the world heā€™s paying attention to at that moment. Heā€™ll know how youā€™ve calmed yourself down in the past, before he was in the picture, and takes up that ritual himself. Did you make yourself some mac and cheese to cheer yourself up in the past? He knows the recipe now, too. Very action-based man.
D reams - How do they picture their future with their s/o?
Levi, especially canon Levi, has trouble envisioning any sort of long-term future for himself. Heā€™s just living his life one day at a time and pushing through. However, with a partner in his life, he indulges himself with little visions of the future. Things like marriage, children, are blurry wishes to him tbh, not out of the question but things that he wonā€™t allow himself to indulge in. Theyā€™re kind of a given if youā€™re serious, and thatā€™s enough to satisfy him. But near-future things are things he often thinks about. He wants to live with his partner, wants to think about how theyā€™ll spend their next anniversary, he often thinks about what you both will be doing together for the holidays. Those futures comfort him immensely.
E qual - Are they the dominant one in the relationship, or rather passive?
I think it is actually rather equal with Levi. He has so much baggage of his own, that a partner willing to share the load would make him feel really safe. But, I think heā€™d subconsciously be more of the dominant figure. He dedicates himself to his loved ones, and would do anything for them, and his partner would feel that tenfold.
F ight - Would they be easy to forgive their s/o? How are they fighting?
Levi definitely is an, ā€œIā€™m too old for this shitā€ type of guy when it comes to fights with his partner lmfao. Heā€™s not about the dramatics of fighting. I donā€™t think heā€™d really ever yell at his partner or vice versa. The fights would have a snarky energy - I can see him snapping at his partner sometimes, or making an infamous sarcastic remark when heā€™s irritated - but Levi would honestly rather just discuss the problem bluntly and get it out of the way. But my god, the man wouldnā€™t back down until it was all cleared up.
G ratitude - How grateful are they in general? Are they aware of what their s/o is doing for them?
SO GRATEFUL. I think Levi would be so thankful to have his partner in his life. He knows heā€™s a tough nut to crack, so having someone finally get through to him is scary but wonderful. He sees everything you do for him and I think heā€™d honestly be so emotional about even the littlest things, because heā€™s so used to taking care of everyone else. Itā€™s almost uncomfortable for him to know that someone is unconditionally loving him, but heā€™s grateful he has that love. Never takes it for granted.
H onesty - Do they have secrets they hide from their s/o? Or do they share everything?
Per the above, Levi is a tough nut to crack, and I think it would take a really, really long time to fully open him up. Like, a really long time. Honestly, he may not ever completely open up about his past because it can be so dark, but that doesnā€™t mean that he would actively keep secrets from you. If anything, his partner would know him the best out of everyone. While he may keep some stuff about his past in the dark, everything else is no secret. Heā€™ll tell you about his day, about whatā€™s going on with his friends, all that good stuff.
I nspiration - Did their s/o change them somehow, or the other way around? Like trying out new things or helped them overcome personal problems?
I think Levi with a partner would be a little softer, and a little more optimistic. I also think a big thing that Levi would change would be his ability to compromise (because I think itā€™s hard for him to compromise). Heā€™d definitely be a lot happier and kinder to himself with a partner around. And, in private, heā€™d allow himself to be more vulnerable and actually show his emotions. Levi is a pretty level-headed person as well, and I think he would pass that trait on to his partner.
J ealousy - Do they get jealous easily? How do they deal with it?
Levi is not a jealous person, but heā€™s very protective of his partner!! This is the hill I die on!!! He is always looking out for you, so if someone does hit on you, he watches to see how you react. If itā€™s funny to you, itā€™s funny to him, but if itā€™s creepy to you, then heā€™s already cracking his knuckles.
K iss - Are they a good kisser? What was the first kiss like?
I donā€™t want to roast this lovely man but I donā€™t think heā€™d be a great kisser at first LMAO. Heā€™s so not used to being loved. Levi is touch-starved, confirmed on Tannyā€™s blog. I think the first kiss is okay at best, definitely awkward, and Levi definitely doesnā€™t really know what to do. Heā€™s a quick learner, though. Heā€™s a good kisser in no time, after learning how you like to be kissed, and after finally getting him to believe itā€™s okay to be affectionate.
L ove Confession - How would they confess to their s/o?
I picture it as word vomit (Leviā€™s version of word vomit tho, which is like, a couple of sentences). Heā€™d confess his feelings for you once he just canā€™t physically keep the words in anymore. Heā€™d definitely fight against it for a while but then the word vomit happens. I think, specifically, his firstĀ ā€œI love youā€ would be quite intimate and very quiet, just a whisper in your ear when he finally realizes it. Realizing he loves you would be much easier for him than realizing he has feelings for you, so he wouldnā€™t even hesitate with saying it first, the sweet boi.
M arriage - Do they want to get married? How do they propose? What would the marriage be like?
I donā€™t think Levi had ever considered marriage before meeting you. But after meeting you, that would likely change if you wanted to get married. Heā€™d want to spend his life with his partner, and whether that means marriage or not, it doesnā€™t quite matter to him. Just the promise of being together is good enough for him. If the two of you do decide to get married, itā€™s no frills. Tbh, thereā€™s no elaborate proposal from Levi, but he makes sure that he formally asks you and that itā€™s special to the two of you. Maybe heā€™d ask you at the place you first met/kissed/etc. The marriage itself would be just as lovely and peaceful as the relationship with him beforehand. Not much changes, except both you and Levi acknowledge thereā€™s an added commitment as spouses. I think both of you would really cherish your new titles as spouses.
N icknames - What do they call their s/o?
Levi doesnā€™t strike me as the type to give their S/O nicknames like babe, baby, etc. but Iā€™m sure heā€™d have a specific nickname that only he uses for you. Other than that, just calling his partner by their name is enough.
O n Cloud Nine - What are they like when they are in love? Is it obvious for others? How do they express their feelings?
Leviā€™s quite the stoic man, so while he presents that way to the rest of the world, his loved ones can actually see the difference between anĀ ā€œin loveā€ Levi vs. aĀ ā€œnot in loveā€ Levi. Itā€™s not that itā€™s a huge difference, heā€™s just softer somehow, and thereā€™s more peace within his eyes, and he even smiles more. Leviā€™s not a huge fan of PDA, so heā€™s not prone to showing a lot of affection in front of others. In private, itā€™s a different story. Once he gets comfortable with affection, heā€™s more receptive and more giving. In front of others, heā€™s more comfortable holding hands or putting his hand on your back. He may not be a fan of PDA, but his eyes are on you frequently, and anyone who catches him looking at you can see how much he loves his partner.
P DA - Are they upfront about their relationship? Do they brag with their s/o in front of others? Or are they rather shy to kiss etc. when others are watching?
Like I said above, not a fan of PDA. Doesnā€™t mean Leviā€™s secretive about his relationship at all. Heā€™s proud to have his partner and proud to talk about his partner when the topic comes up. Heā€™d be quite shy/uncomfortable kissing in front of others. Maybe not a fan of kisses on the lips, but heā€™d be more okay with forehead kisses, cheek kisses, etc.
Q uirk - Some random ability they have thatā€™s beneficial in a relationship.
Levi is so protective over his partner donā€™t @ me, and it just also means heā€™s naturally more attentive. Heā€™d notice if your mood changes, heā€™d notice if something wasĀ ā€œoffā€ with you, heā€™d definitely remember you mentioning wanting something in passing and then gift it for your birthday/Christmas/a random Tuesday like MONTHS later. Memory of an elephant and more tuned into emotions than people give him credit for.
R omance - How romantic are they? What would they do to make their s/o happy? ClichƩ or rather creative?
Again, not overtly romantic. Levi is a straightforward person, very practical, and very simple. But heā€™d give his partner the moon if he could. He believes in making things special, though, so I think he would actually put some thought/creativity in romantic actions rather than going for something clichĆ©.
S upport - Are they helping their s/o achieve their goals? Do they believe in them?
Oh absolutely. Levi is so supportive of his S/O and is happy to help with achieving any goal. He truly believes you can do whatever you put your mind to. You could lean on Levi for help with anything. Heā€™s not one to make fun of your dreams. Heā€™d just give his best advice and help you get a move on.
T hrill - Do they need to try out new things to spice out your relationship? Or do they prefer a certain routine?
Levi definitely prefers routine. Heā€™s a simple man with simple pleasures, and his whole life has been quite unpredictable, so he really loves the simple things in your relationship. Loves your morning routine, your night routine, loves weekly date nights. Of course, heā€™d enjoy trying new things with his partner, but he legitimately canā€™t get enough of what other might see asĀ ā€œmundaneā€ parts of a relationship, because he thought heā€™d never get to experience that.
U nderstanding - How good do they know their partner? Are they empathetic?
Levi knows his S/O like the back of his hand. He wants to know everything about them but is also respectful if it takes time for you to open up. He can be empathetic, but it takes time for him to get there tbh. He would be uncomfortable with blatant emotional conversations at first, just give him time. He just wants you to be comfortable with him at the end of the day and vice versa.
V alue - How important is the relationship to them? What is itā€™s worth in comparison to other things in their life?
Leviā€™s S/O is so goddamn lucky tbh. He would never, ever take his partner for granted. Heā€™s slow to get the hang of a serious relationship, thatā€™s true, but heā€™s always trying his hardest to make the relationship be as good as it is. The best part is that Levi doesnā€™t lose himself in a relationship, however. He values his partner and prioritizes them, but youā€™d never catch yourself in a codependent relationship with this man. He wants you to be your own person and he wants that for himself, too. Youā€™re one of his most important relationships, if not theĀ most important one, but he understands that you are your own person and he is his own person.
W ild Card - A random Fluff Headcanon.
Levi wears a ring with your initials carved on the inside.
X OXO - Are they very affectionate? Do they love to kiss and cuddle?
In public, again, not the most blatantly affectionate. In private, heā€™s more into it. He loves having his arms around you or vice versa. He just likes having the warmth of his partner there, doesnā€™t need to be something very sexual or very physical.
Y earning - How will they cope when theyā€™re missing their partner?
Levi would be more irritable if heā€™s without his S/O for some time imo. Have a week long trip you have to go on? He misses you more and more with each passing day, and he gets bitchier with each passing day. He does take it out on everyone else (poor fellas). If heā€™s not pissy, heā€™s otherwise quiet and just focuses on his own stuff until he sees you again.
Z eal - Are they willing to go to great lengthsĀ for the relationship? If so, what kind of?
Levi is extremely protective of his S/O and would literally put his life on the line for them. Heā€™s kind of dramatic in that way, but he would rather suffer in your place any day. He would do anything for his partner.
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Part 1.
This is my first post on tumblr, I've been learning astrology for over a year now - and I have finally succeeded and wrote my own personal astrology notes! āš ļøthese are my own personal observations and notes, which means that whatever I'm saying here isn't 100% astrology accurate & approved by any professional astrologerāš ļø hope you enjoy I guess <3 (BTW: if anyone wants to repost or anything pls tag me, and don't steal pls!! I've worked so hard on these.)
ā€¢ Taurus risings have 2 types of luaghter: crying-like laugh because of their 3rd house cancer or a smirky / deep-like laugh because of their capricorn 9th house. As a taurus rising I approve this message.
ā€¢ speaking of taurus risings: gemini 2nd house ppl may joke a lot about their self worth. They also have a very big vocal range - whether they can sing or not, they can be great at dubbing.
ā€¢ Neptune in the 2nd house have dreamy voices / amazing singing abilities or they may sound like a someone that does drugs / smoke / just high.
ā€¢ having your mars in the 10th house can indicate a modeling career, especially if your MC is in good aspects with your ASC.
ā€¢ virgo 9th house people have the most provocative sense of humor, they are also a "know-it-all". Yet, they are extremely loyal, so passionate and devoted to their duties.
ā€¢ whichever house your pluto is in explains your deepest fears and where there is true chaos in your life (I'll make a post about it!)
ā€¢ having your pluto in libra - as pluto being the planet of our generations - means that these people have always tried to fit into norms and into society, to not stand out, to be the most basic they can try. I believe that if they had a catchfraze it would be: "fake it 'till you make it".
ā€¢ whatever house you have libra in is an area in your life that tries to fit in norms / society / normality (libra 11th house: have friends that are normal & basic / you try to to fit in society to make friends)
ā€¢ aries rising's facial expressions are IMMACULATE (aries rules the face, so it's fitting that their face and facial expression will be very dominant)
ā€¢ if your lilith conjuncts your saturn then solving the dark and hidden parts of you will help your career life grow and evolve as well.
ā€¢ Mars-neptune aspects makes your anger blurry - like you don't know when your angry or how to feel / express your anger. Bonus points if the moon has contact with mars.
ā€¢ There are 2 houses that rule the feeling of not belonging: the 11th house (not belonging because ur special, unique, weird, not normal) and the 12th house (not belonging because of your lonely energy, your blurry energy that makes you feel drifted from everyone automatically)
ā€¢ Parent & children šŸ¤ not understanding each other's generation. Why, you may ask? Most if the time the age gap between children & their parents is 25 - 40 years, now if pluto is changing it's sign every 12 (mostly) - 31 years it means that the gap of the signs is creating a square! Example: gen z (pluto in sag) & boomers and karens (pluto in virgo), yet gen z (pluto in sag) & gen of pluto in leo (our grandparents) are creating a trine aspect (good relationship between generations).
ā€¢ Capricorn stelliums are the most impatient people ever, time just moves with their own schedule and they are the ones that are always perfectly in time. Why? Saturn, which is ruled by capricorn: is ruling time.
ā€¢ 12th house placements in general but especially 12th house NN & chiron 10th house people have a hero complex, that we must help everyone and save everyone. It's because the 12th house is about selflessness and empathy.
ā€¢ Sagittarius rising feel so intimate and private, like no one really knows them - because of their 12th house scorpio, which makes their intimate side hidden, and makes them a mystery.
ā€¢ Your 7th house sign is also the sign you have celebrity-crushes & obsessions on.
ā€¢ You can know leo's even without them having a sun, moon or rising in leo. They are just SO noticeable! Their energy is just IMMACULATE
ā€¢ I think that 12th house people are very intersted in prisons, mental hospitals, illusions and parties actually! Now all of them are understood because of our natural will to search for the unkown and the mystery and the unrealistic stuff in our lives, stuff that makes your soul change.
But why parties? Parties may be a place filled with people and noise which 12th house ppl won't like but the thing is parties are a fun illusion, with the lights changing all the time and the music that makes our body adapt to an entirely different environment because of it - it makes u very much aware of everything within the noise and loudness and madness.
ā€¢ Talking about parties and 12th house people - I have noticed that they have 2 options of how they act:
1. They sit in the corner and analyze literally anything or just drown in their own thoughts or distract themselves from "all of the eyes looking at them".
2. They try to dance and get involve in the party but they're or getting to carried away and then feel embarrassed af and isolate themselves or immediately regrets it and goes to isolate themselves.
ā€¢ 10th house transits for ppl who haven't graduated high school / university yet will be manifesting in their school life because it's where you're "supposed" to find your career path.
ā€¢ In my opinion, the co-ruler of fun (which is ruled by leo) is sagittarius. Why? Leo rules entertainment and sagittarius is the ruler of jupiter, which resembles happiness, optimism (, expansion, growth) which is like the soul purpose of fun and entertainment.
ā€¢ Even tho communication and the social media are a mercury - thing, I actually think that specific parts have 2 or even 3 rulers. For example: articles are ruled by gemini, virgo and aquarius (gemini to represent the creativeness and flowing speech in the article (also gossip if included), virgo to represent the order and wording of the article and how it's represented and brought to the readers and aquarius is for the fact that articles always talk about new, innovative or unusual things that are happening currently [little bit of cap right here lol] in the world, which also bring awareness (def an aqua theme).
ā€¢ As the 8th house representing secrets, intimacy and shared resources - it must mean that people with this stellium or placements LOVE gossip. gossip is the combination of shared resources (media - which related to my last note - so gossip pages are gemini scorpio thing), intimacy and secrets.
ā€¢ I have a theory - vehicles, as all materials and machines - are ruled by earth signs, so here are each vehicles rulers in my opinion:
virgo rules the air-vehicles (plains, helicopters etc.) Because that's a mutable sign that's adaptable of change the most out of every earth sign, and because the sky is so unpredictable and there's infinite courses of ways to reach ur destination - virgo fits the most to it.
capricorn rules the sea-vehicles (ships, boats, submarines etc.) Because that's a cardinal sign, an initiator that doesn't wait for things to happen, but makes sure every sudden change has a stable solution, also the sea is such an exotic place - fitting for a Capricorn's rich taste in views and life. Other than that, water may be unpredictable as well, but less than the open air and sky. Capricorns are the sea goats for a reason ;)
And last but not least - taurus rules the earth-vehicles. As The most stable, grounded, stubborn & down to earth sign it's kind of fitting for the vehicles that moves through the earth to have taurus as it's ruler. As cars, motorcycles etc. Have roads, so does taurians have their own, only path. They depend on the only thing they trust and any sudden change will make chaos. It's also the most comfortable - the thing taurians are craving for most.
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Nunky! (Modern!Ivar x reader - Modern!Ivar x OCs niece and nephew)
A/N: This is my entry to @flowers-in-your-hayr 650 Followers Celebration šŸŽ‰ Congrats again, love šŸŒø And thanks for this amazing moodboard šŸ˜
I'm awfully late, sorry about that. The truth is, do you know what it is to struggle? Let me tell you: there were three other drafts before this final version. More than 4000 words... All trashed...
Anyway, I'm quite happy with this one, that's all that matters.
@geekandbooknerd, thanks for beta reading this for me šŸŒŗ
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Summary: Ever wonder what kind of uncle Ivar would be? Let me show you šŸ˜‰
Warnings: fluff, fluff, fluff šŸ™ˆ
Words: 1978
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"We're going to play Pete the Cat or Sneaky Snacky Squirrel Game, you in?" He shouts at you from the deck.
Lazily lying on a sunbed in the shade of an oak, you don't bother opening your eyes. As much as you love board games, there's no way you're leaving this perfect spot. Not yet, and certainly not for the next two hours.
"No, I'm good." You shake your head for emphasis, even if you're not sure he can see you.
"Okay lovebug, see you later," he says tenderly before changing his tone, "All right kiddos, get ready to lose!"
You let out a chuckle as Viola and Soren, feeling offended, express loudly their discontent. And you can't help but laugh. You know he's going to let them win anyway. He may be a sore loser who hates to lose and would do anything to win, whether in business or in a game, but things are different when it comes to his niece and nephew. That's just how much he loves them.
Your multi-faceted loverā€¦
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To the world, he is Ivar Ragnarsson, the crippled son ā€“ and true heir ā€“ of the mighty Ragnar Lothbrok, and, till last year ā€“ till you ā€“ Scandinavia's richest and most eligible bachelor, and all this in spite of his legs.
To his employees and business partners, he's an arrogant, cranky, demanding, cold-hearted, smart as hell, and very successful business tycoon. Oh, if they could see him right now, they wouldn't believe their eyes. No dress shirt, no suit pants, no blazer. With a backwards baseball cap, a basic black tee-shirt and stonewashed jeans, he looks more like a boy than a crafty businessman.
To you, he's the man you've been in love with for eight months; a complex human being, for sure, full of contradictions: so self-confident and yet in some ways so self-conscious; outwardly tough but at times so incredibly vulnerable. You won't lie, he can be infuriating; he's stubborn, strong-headed and short tempered. But he's awfully clever, deadpan andā€¦ well... devastatingly handsome, with his impossibly beautiful features and his otherworldly icy blue eyes. He's a fantastic lover too, unexpectedly caring and attentive, loyal and faithful.
To Viola and Soren, his favorite brother's children, he's Uncle Ivar ā€“ or Nunky, as Viola calls him ā€“ the best uncle ever, funny and mischievous, loving and supportive. He's always ready to go out of his way to teach them all the cool stuff kids are supposed to know; silly jokes, riddles and magic tricks. He's their favorite babysitter, the one who is completely devoted to them, the one who feeds them ice cream and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, before reminding them conspiratorially, with a finger on his lips: "You know the deal, sweet peas! Not a word to your mom."
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You remember as if it were yesterday your first meeting with them.
Soren, chocolate all over his face, greets you with a big smile, immediately asking you if you want to play hide-and-seek with them. On the other hand, Viola looks at you from head to toe, scrutinizing you intensely. With her lips pursed and her brows creased, she doesn't seem very pleased, to say the least. The seconds tick by and finally, placing her tiny hands on her hips, the little girl takes a deep breath. "I don't want to play with her. I don't like her." The hostility in her tone can't be missed.
Speechless, you look at Viola with wide open eyes. You usually have a way with kids and are honestly a little stunned by such an unfriendly welcome.
"Viola, pleaseā€¦" Ivar grumbles, rolling his eyes, but he doesn't have time to say another word. "No, Nunky! You told me she was your lover!" Ah, now you're beginning to see her problem, and it brings a small smile on your lips.
Viola points an accusing finger towards you. "Are you Nunky's lover?"
You nod playfully but Viola doesn't seem the least bit amused. "That's why I don't like you. And just so you know, you may be Nunky's lover now, but I'm going to marry him. I just have to wait a little," she frowns, thoroughly concentrated, "I need to be a little older, maybe likeā€¦ that," she stretches out the fingers of both hands in front of her, "but Nunky is going to marry me. Me, not you. So, you might as well leave right now."
You struggle to hold back your laughter, aware that this is a very serious matter for her.
"Come here, baby girl." Rubbing a hand over his face, Ivar pats his knees and then helps his niece as she climbs onto his lap. "We've talked about this, little bird, remember? We're not getting married, not in ten years, not ever." He speaks so softly, and there's so much love in his eyes, you feel like you're melting.
"But, I loā€“" Viola interjects with a pout, but Ivar stops her, shaking his head. "There's no buts, baby love. Uncles do not marry nieces. That's the way it is and that's how it must be. And yes," he looks at you fondly, "Y/N is my lover. But it doesn't change anything. I'm not going anywhere, Viola. I'll always be in your life. I love you." He gently ruffles Soren's hair. "I love you both. You have no idea how much I love you."
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You must have dozed off and are awakened by Viola high-pitched squeals of joy. "Oh yeah, let's go into the backyard." Hmph! Looks like you're going to have company. Bye bye peacefulness.
Well, so be it.
Yawning, you stretch like a cat before sitting up. Ivar and the kids are on the deck and you wave at them. Soren casts you a broad smile and takes two steps towards the backyard but Viola stops him.
"Wait, Soren! Nunky," you don't need to see her to know that she's blinking her big, beautiful blue eyes at Ivar, "please, we are tired. Right Soren?"
Viola's brother nods tentatively as Ivar bursts out laughing. "Is that so, munchkin?" Putting on a thinking face, he stares blanky up in the air for a second or two, tapping a forefinger on his chin. "Let me guess, you want a ride, baby girl? Soren, buddy boy, would you mind fetching the princess's carriage for me, please?"
At this point, you know exactly what is going to happen, yet it never ceases to amaze you. And as sure as the sun rises from the east, the next moment Soren is pushing a wheelchair in front of him, coming to a halt next to his uncle. Ivar immediately sits down, slipping his crutch into the intended holder attached to the backrest.
Reaching out, he now gently grabs Viola's wrist. "Your carriage awaits, princess." The little girl climbs very carefully onto his lap before wrapping her chubby arms around his neck.
Ivar pulls her closer, "Hold tight, princess!" and as soon as he's sure she's securely seated, he grabs his push rims and pops a wheelie, Viola bursting with laughter. He then looks at Soren, cracking him a smile. "I'll give you a ride too, bumblebee, stay put."
Soren, older than Viola and always overprotective when it comes to his beloved uncle, frowns, concern all over his boyish face. "You sure I'm not too heavy now? I'm over fifty-five pounds, you know?"
Ivar laughs, an easy smile on his plump lips. "Don't worry, I'll be just fine." A smile tugging up the corner of his mouth and Viola giggling on his lap, he rolls towards the wide wooden ramp leading to the backyard.
Ivar hates using his wheelchair. He despises it. He's very secretive about it. The truth is, it took him two months to tell you that he sometimes needed one and another two months to actually use it in front of you.
He hates it so much that he would rather crawl than use it. Actually, that's what he does every night, after taking off his leg braces.
Yet, he keeps his old wheelchair here, at his brother's house. For recreational purposes only; or in other words for Viola's and Soren's enjoyment. And he gives them rides, up and down the ramp, sometimes for hours, popping wheelies here and there. Because Viola and Soren love that and it makes them laugh. Because he would do everything and anything to make them happy.
That's just how much he loves them.
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Ivar pulls a sunbed next to you and flops down on it, stifling a hiss of pain. "Where are the kids?" Raising yourself up on one elbow, you kiss him, your free hand gently stroking the tight muscles of his right thigh.
Rubbing his eyes tiredly, he kisses you back. "Gathering the things they want to take to the beach."
You want to give him a disapproving look, but you won't. You know better. You know him.
He shouldn't go to the beach. Not today. He woke up in pain this morning. Walking in the sand is a struggle even on good days. He'll pay for it later. You know he knows it. And you know he'll do it no matter what, and whatever it takes.
Because that, he can do.
Sometimes, you catch a hint of sadness in his eyes. When Soren and Viola are running and he can't run after them, because running is simply not an option for him. When they are jumping on the trampoline and he can't join them, because it would end with broken bones. When they are playing football, or riding a bike, or skating. When they are tree climbing, or playing gunny sack race, or rock climbing, or playing hopscotch, or skipping rope, or dancing, orā€¦
But walking in the sand, even if not easy, that, he can do.
He's going to struggle all the way ā€“ wincing, hissing, silently swearing, even dragging his right leg with his hand if necessary ā€“ until they reach their favorite spot, a small cove shielded from the wind, with marvelous pebbles and smooth sand. And he will sit for hours, his legs aching, making sandcastles even though, even as a child, he didn't like that. Because it doesn't matter. Because Soren and Viola matter. And the sparkle in their eyes will bring a smile to his face. Their laughter will make it all worthwhile.
Yeah, this is what he's going to do, for Soren's and Viola's happiness. And you know there's nothing you can say or do that is going to change his mind.
That's just how much he loves them.
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āš”ļø"What are you thinking about, love?" Ivar's soft voice pulls you out of your thoughts as he wraps his arm around your shoulders.
"I was thinking what a fantastic uncle you are." You reply genuinely, your thumb grazing his cheek. "And what a fantastic father you will be one day. The father of our kids."
Ivar blinks several times. You know that no matter how many times you tell him, he still finds it hard to believe that you want to make a life with him; marry him; carry his children.
"Thisā€¦" His voice trembles and he lowers his gaze, "this is really what you want?"
"Of course, it is, my love." You reassure him for the thousandth time, peppering his jaw with light kisses. "Negotiations with Viola will doubtless be tough, thoughā€¦" You chuckle, your fingers threading through his hair as he nods. "But let me tell you a secret," you can feel his hot breath on your ear, "you've already won, love." He offers you a breathtaking, mind-blowing smile and then his mouth finds yours and he kisses you and it feels like you're alone in the world, nothing matters but your shared love, nothing exists but him, nothing counts anymore, nothing, nothing, nothing...
"NUNKYYYYY!!!!"
Wellā€¦ You may have spoken too soonā€¦
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