#is it animal meat? is it human meat? thats for you to decide!
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snekdood · 2 years ago
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The way yall assume the worst about vegans is absolutely tiring. Yeah dude i totally care about inserting my hands into your life and morphing you into the way i think you should be. I totally feel like i need to exert that energy towards you and that you dont have the criticial thinking ability to think about veganism and consider if you truly can or cant. I totally totally care about that dude. Goddamn. Just. so so much.
#and if im vegan for religious reasons would you throw a fit about it?#or is it just when i dont want to hurt animals by eating them that you have an issue?#i dont think im better than you. i just dont want to hurt animals if it can be helped.#if i do that for religious reasons im sure youd leave me alone. probably bc you think whatever i believe in is nonsense anyways.#but suddenly when it becomes about how i dont want to eat animals which would mean killing them for their meat. theres an issue.#why is that do you think?#genuine question#you feel like you can assert to me that no one should care all that much about where their food comes from. unless it effects humans ofc.#(which factory farming does but lets put a pin in that for now)#but when it comes to my religious beliefs. suddenly you stop yourself from asserting to me that i shouldnt have a problem woth meat.#plenty of hindus dont stop themselves. theres a whole debate among hindus about whether ppl should or shouldnt eat meat#you feel like you know enough to lecture me on why ppl shouldnt care when i do it for reasons of not wanting to kill. but i tell you its#for religious reasons and you just walk away?? make it make sense#if you know so much better then counter me on all fronts besides the one you're emotionally invested in#bc youve decided me not eating meat is me judging you for being immoral. so now you're telling at me for just... existing#yelling*#if you feel guilty about killing an animal to eat it then thats on you. im not doing anything hut pointing out that thats whats happeningm#you already know intellectually thats whats happening. we've all known basiclaly our entire lives.#why is it only an issue when i bring up that fact. that we kill them for their meat. does just looking the other way feel better? bc thats#what it seems like.#theres no one i respect least than non vegans who refuse to confront the fact that theyre killing something for their own satisfaction.#non vegans who admit theyre killing for sustenance i have way more respect for. they actually look the action in the face at least#and have made a judgement from actually acknowledging the whole situation.#but non vegans who waft around trying to avoid thinking about how something actually died to provide this food for you-#i have no respect for you.#maybe being thankful before you eat would be a good thing for everyone to do. not towards any god per se but. to at least#acknowledge all the effort and blood that has gone into creating your meal before you. yknow. actually sit w the fact you're eating a cow#or something. not to *make you realize youve been eating meat this whole time and feel guilty*#i genuinely think basic acknowledgement and gratefulness of the source of your food is good for everyone to do in general#and those of us in amercia could REALLY stand to learn how to be grateful about others providing for us.
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great-and-small · 6 months ago
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When I was in vet school I went to this one lecture that I will never forget. Various clubs would have different guest lecturers come in to talk about relevant topics and since I was in the Wildlife Disease Association club I naturally attended all the wildlife and conservation discussions. Well on this particular occasion, the speakers started off telling us they had been working on a project involving the conservation of lemurs in Madagascar. Lemurs exist only in Madagascar, and they are in real trouble; they’re considered the most endangered group of mammals on Earth. This team of veterinarians was initially assembled to address threats to lemur health and work on conservation solutions to try and save as many lemur species from extinction as possible. As they explored the most present dangers to lemurs they found that although habitat loss was the primary problem for these vulnerable animals, predation by humans was a significant cause of losses as well. The vets realized it was crucial for the hunting of lemurs by native people to stop, but of course this is not so simple a problem.
The local Malagasy people are dealing with extreme poverty and food insecurity, with nearly half of children under five years old suffering from chronic malnutrition. The local people have always subsisted on hunting wildlife for food, and as Madagascar’s wildlife population declines, the people who rely on so-called bushmeat to survive are struggling more and more. People are literally starving.
Our conservation team thought about this a lot. They had initially intended to focus efforts on education but came to understand that this is not an issue arising from a lack of knowledge. For these people it is a question of survival. It doesn’t matter how many times a foreigner tells you not to eat an animal you’ve hunted your entire life, if your child is starving you are going to do everything in your power to keep your family alive.
So the vets changed course. Rather than focus efforts on simply teaching people about lemurs, they decided to try and use veterinary medicine to reduce the underlying issue of food insecurity. They supposed that if a reliable protein source could be introduced for the people who needed it, the dependence on meat from wildlife would greatly decrease. So they got to work establishing new flocks of chickens in the most at-risk communities, and also initiated an aggressive vaccination program for Newcastle disease (an infectious illness of poultry that is of particular concern in this area). They worked with over 600 households to ensure appropriate husbandry and vaccination for every flock, and soon found these communities were being transformed by the introduction of a steady protein source. Families with a healthy flock of chickens were far less likely to hunt wild animals like lemurs, and fewer kids went hungry. Thats what we call a win-win situation.
This chicken vaccine program became just one small part of an amazing conservation outreach initiative in Madagascar that puts local people at the center of everything they do. Helping these vulnerable communities of people helps similarly vulnerable wildlife, always. If we go into a country guns-blazing with that fire for conservation in our hearts and a plan to save native animals, we simply cannot ignore the humans who live around them. Doing so is counterintuitive to creating an effective plan because whether we recognize it or not, humans and animals are inextricably linked in many ways. A true conservation success story is one that doesn’t leave needy humans in its wake, and that is why I think this particular story has stuck with me for so long.
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(Source 2- cool video exploring this initiative from some folks involved)
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bochedogmeat · 9 months ago
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Ok tumblr today I am going to ramble about something. It was discussed in the obikin discord i thinkkk probably about a year ago now? But:
Obligate cannibal stewjoni.
I figure thats not everyone’s jam, so more about biological logistics and how that applies to our good friend Obi-wan below the cut vv
So I know the biology surrounding an obligate cannibal would have to be kind of funky but basically in my mind the prion diseases that would kill irl humans provides a necessary nutrient in stewjoni lifeforms. Perhaps two or more separate humanoid species are the only living things left on the planet after its other meat sources have been hunted to extinction, leaving only the humanoid species left. Maybe a herbivore group vs a group of obligate carnivores? Or maybe it’s just one carnivorous group that utilizes slavery/human husbandry/ human sacrifice? Regardless, it causes them to evolve over time into obligate cannibals. Or something. I offer you an obi-wan with pointed, ripping teeth and (optionally) nails that grow in naturally sharp.
I figure the temple provides Obi-wan with synthetic meat or supplement pills or something that has the added nutrients needed for a stewjoni initiate, so he never actually feels the craving for humanoid flesh until he gets put in a situation where those rations are not readily available to him. I also figure they probably give him special classes on his own biology so he knows how important it actually is to keep those rations/supplements on him at all times, but. You know. Shit just happens to Obi-wan LOL.
Qui-gon discovering a young Obi-wan on Melida-Daan wide eyed and drenched in blood, having gone without his supplements for too long for the first time and deciding that no, he will NOT in fact train this feral animal (he does infact begrudgingly train this feral animal). Qui-gon is wary of this boy, treats him like a dangerous animal that needs to be controlled, and in response, ever grateful for the chance to probe that he is not too wild to be domesticated, his padawan becomes just that. Obi-wan is the perfect jedi, you would scarcely know of his origin planet if not for those teeth (he files his nails down and smiles with his mouth closed. Nothing to be done for speaking, unfortunately.)
There is a significantly more upsetting, dead-dove rabbithole that could be followed regarding one Anakin Skywalker’s missing hand and a master that is Not Normal about his padawan, how something about the boy just makes his teeth itch for the hot, steady gush of fresh blood, but I digress. Im always down to talk about weird starwarse biology and even moreso about obligate cannibal obiwan, but I think I will leave this here for now… :3
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2aish-iteru3 · 2 months ago
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The World As We Know It (Katsuki Bakugo x Reader) Apocalypse AU
Also posted on Wattpad, under Aish_Iteru !
Part 1
(Y/n’s) POV
"Are you fucking kidding me"I sighed as I looked at the empty snare trap. Usually this wouldn't piss me off since that basically means there wasn't much animals around, but today ticked me off more. The trap was set off, and it was clear that someone or something had stolen what was captured in it. The branches of the trap itself were torn in half, and the leaves around were messed around with indicating that whoever took it, did it in a haste.
"I swear to god, if I find this mother fucker they're dead"I got up from the kneeling position that I was in and began looking for any signs of tracking down this bitch.
There were no signs of blood or flesh that the undead usually left behind so I scratched the idea that those bone headed zombies took my dinner. That meant another human took it. Which honestly, angered me more.
It has been 215 days since the apocalypse started, and I could still remember the events that lead up to it. Needless to say, it was fucked up; but thats a story for another time.
After a few more minutes of tracking down this idiot who decided to mess with me today. I gave up and began trekking back to the house I was currently camped at. It was about time anyway since the sun had started to begin setting.
"Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you"I say with gritted teeth. Talking to myself became a habit of mine. No I wasn't crazy, well maybe a little, but hey you need to be a little crazy in order to survive this hell hole we now call the world.
The walk was silent, the only sound you could hear was the crunch of the leaves under my black military boots. Eventually I made it to the edge of the forest, I could see the little town I had settled in. There wasn't much to it the main road had a pharmacy, a picked out grocery store, a police station, gas station and a few neighbourhoods surrounding the main street. There were a few apartments buildings around as well, but I have yet to explore them since those stops are usually hot with the undead.
I quickened up my pace eventually turning into a light jog. I still had a few cans of food so at least I wasn't going to go hungry that night, but still meat would have been nice, gotta keep that protein up.
My jog had gotten me to the house I was staying at and after flawlessly hopping over the low fence, I made my way to the side of the house. There a trash can was set up underneath the main floor window. I climbed up the trash can, and proceeded to climb through the side window of the house. I usually never use the main doors of houses I would stay it. The front and back doors were nailed shut, and the only way to get in was the side window. Those undead freaks couldn't figure that out, so for the most part the house was safe, well as safe as it could be.
I took a few steps from the kitchen, and into the living room. There I had all my shit laid out. The coffee table in the middle of the room had majority of the food supplies I scavenged(canned food, a few granola bars, and a bag of chips that I was definitely going to muck up later on), along with some extra weapons I found. A hunting knife and a pistol with a silencer attachment(found this at the police station, scoree). I shook off the crossbow that I had slung over my shoulder, carefully placing it on the coffee table, my other hunting knife stayed in its sheath; attached to my belt on my left hip. Gotta stay on guard at all time I say.
"God I'm tired"I crashed onto the couch that welcomed my presence. At this point the sun had fully set, and it was pitch black in the room. The only person around was me and my thoughts. It was better this way though, getting too close to people in this world would just cause more problems. Part of me was thankful of my lack of cooperativeness, it taught me how to survive by myself. Can you imagine living in this condition and having the back bone of a chocolate eclair? Yea I think not.
My stomach grumbled, it had been a few hours since I last ate, but my body, and sleep had another idea. I settled in the couch, getting into a more comfy position, my eyes slowly closing shut.
Unfortunately, my sleep was cut off when I heard two male voices cutting into the eerie silence.
"Get in here dunce face, or else I'm leaving you"
"You're so mean Kaachan"I shot up from the couch, my senses firing off alarms in my head.  As quickly, and quietly as possible, I grabbed my pistol, and my crossbow before hiding in the shadows. The boarded up windows and doors completely blocked any sources of light coming into the room, making it easy to maneuver around the shadows. I could hear the second guy shuffling through the window before hearing a loud thud on the floor.
"You idiot! You're making so much noise!I'm not helping you up"
"Your shouting is making more noise, and again, you're so mean Kaachan"I hear the second guy whine.
"Shut up"The other guy says in a lower (still aggressive) more quiet tone.
I take this opportunity to press my back against the wall beside the opening from the kitchen to the living room. Once one of them walks through the door way, I can take one down; and then shoot the other. I held my breath as I hear them maneuvering around the kitchen to find anything.
'Sorry boys, I was here first'I smirked.
"Fuck, this is pissing me off!"One of the guys whisper yells.
"We can't go back empty handed. Izuku told me rations are so low this week, we might not make it"
"Yea I know, thats why this is PISSING ME OFF"Again with the whisper shouting. It's actually kind of funny. Hold on. Did they just say...Izuku?
"Go check out the living room Kaachan, maybe there is something there"
"Like what?Family photos?Don't be such an idiot!"
"Oh my god, fine I'll go check i-"In a split second. When he came into view, I kicked the back of the guys shin resulting in him crashing onto his knees(he let out a little "ow").Before he fully hits the ground, I roughly looped my arm around his neck and with all my strength turned him around to face his little friend. My knife flushed against the exposed part of his neck that wasn't covered by my arm.
"Make a move and I'll fucking kill you”
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ceasarslegion · 2 years ago
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Alright I just watched a disastrous date go down at the restaurant I was in (woman getting the cold shoulder from the wait staff after asking if her date left while she was in the restroom) so now I gotta know your ramen story, pretty please ☕️ ☕️
LMAO???
Alright so uh, sit down for this one I guess.
Picture me a few months ago. It was still warm out, I was a bit lonely, I go on tinder. I end up striking up a nice conversation with someone who seemed very similar to me. Third culture kids have very unique lifestyles so when we find each other we tend to cling, especially when that person grew up in the same general area you did and came from the same general parent culture. This was what got us talking in the first place.
The guy seemed nice, okay? Articulate, funny, approachable, and easy to keep a conversation with (which is rarer than the diamond itself for the tinder population, who communicate so little it makes me wonder if I missed a telepathy patch somewhere). So I thought hey, why the hell not, right? Let's go to dinner.
I'm a really big meat-eater who can and has eaten everything from chicken hearts to beef tongue and I enjoyed both of them. My dad's side of the family are cattle ranchers in a province only known for two things: oil and beef. I grew up in the part of the middle east that consumes some form of spiced meat in every damn meal, snack, and candy. I was doomed from the start, bro. No part of me could even be vegetarian. I order my steak blue rare at the places that let me. I drink tall glasses of milk with every dinner. I buy family sizes of meat cuts at the grocery store for myself.
No word of a fucking lie, my mom kept this baby book writing down milestones and personality quirks with me, and under the section that says "my favourite food is..." it just says "MEAT: ALL" underlined 3 times. I was meant to be some kind of obligate carnivore but god decided to curse me for my hubris by placing my soul in the body of an omnivorous ape.
Anyway. I suggest ramen for dinner because it's a good crowd pleaser thats really hard to fuck up for a first date. I mean, who doesn't like noodle soups? I usually order it with pork belly, but I was really craving beef that night so I ordered beef ramen with extra beef and a fried egg on top with a cup of green tea
Apparently, this was an issue.
I thank the waiter and he heads off with our orders. I am greeted by a facial expression i can only describe as "moral fury disguised as vague disappointment."
I immediately start getting an earful about how disgusting it is to eat animal flesh and how I should be ashamed of myself for promoting "speciesism" while calling myself an anti-racist. "Speciesism" was a term I have never heard before that day, and I still think it's fucking stupid to compare eating meat to full-blown racism.
I start pointing out that I have no issue with how he decides to eat, but it's a massive overstep of personal boundaries and a very presumptive and self-righteous move to act like he had any right to tell someone else how to eat. Plus, the shit he was spouting about livestock rearing and byproduct sourcing were straight up untrue and made up by PETA. Plus, I hate to break it to him, but cows are not humans. They aren't. They just aren't, and if he can't understand that then he shouldn't be taking care of them and he definitely shouldn't be acting like he should.
I am not the most held back individual when it comes to these things. I have a big blunt mouth and I don't have much of a concept of a filter. I acknowledge that about myself and try my hardest to only argue things i have immediate credible evidence for, because I know that I always come off as emotionally-charged because of my big blunt mouth. But oh, oh boy. Oh man did he not like that.
The argument keeps escalating and escalating until our food gets served. He decides to make a very exaggerated barf gesture at the beef and egg in my bowl. C'mon, bro. But you wanna be petty? Alright, I can be petty too. I looked him dead in the eye while I picked out chunks of only egg and beef with my chopsticks and ate it. I made constant comments on how good the meat was and how much I loved the texture and juiciness of it. He gave me a very charged silent treatment the whole time.
We mutually ghosted each other after that night.
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Poll 11
Finn (Any Pronouns) by @modernchimera
Why Should Your OC Win?
He's such a loser. I can't tell you he should win. It would be funny but it's equally funny for him to lose. Even funnier if he just doesn't make it in the bracket.
What is Your OC Like?
Finn is a gamer and a nerd and an intellectual. Triple whammy. He can only eat meat. At some point he turns full snake and has to turn himself into a human every day to finish college. He wears the most insane, bad looking outfits. He made some sentient AIs in his computer and will on the occasion boot them up just to remind them they're not real.
Leon Anders (He/Him) by @homunculusrex
Why Should Your OC Win?
Your Honor.. Hes Just a lil fella...
What is Your OC Like?
A very good boy who loves animals. Socially Awkward disaster. So absorbed in his work that he has no idea that not having many hobbies outside of work makes him kinda look like a freak. Has been able to commune with animals his entire life and had no idea until like, yesterday, when somebody pointed out that Thats Not Normal. Decided hes gonna use these powers to be a superhero because Its The Right Thing To Do. Hes Fucking Dogshit At It but hes trying so hard and I believe in him.
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currentgoddess · 1 year ago
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decembers always a bad time for me but my god is there SO MUCH going on in the world rn
yes theres an active invasion, ten concurrent genocides (FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE),
but we also have rapidly snowballing socio-cultural degeneration in the west.
teens today are so socially vile compared to ten, fifteen years ago theyve started traumatizing their teachers at staggering rates, and this is definitely a product of en masse generational trauma as well as the contemporary atmosphere of capitalism-driven social media, but also accidentally because of radical socio-cultural evolutionary growing pains as we learn not to throw the baby (general manners) out with the bathwater (opressive systems and unfair power dynamics).
recognition of disabilities and other societal disadvantages has climbed so high that the "normal" people now act like asking for any kind of equality, amendments, reparations or accessibility is some kind of unfair demand from someone with power over them instead of a plea from someone who needs help, which is a beautifully hypocritical display of the normalization of socio-cultural power dynamics.
misinformation and propaganda are so widespread and radicalized purely under the machinations of capitalism and the patriarchy that not even just regular jane and joes are spouting absolute horseshit on a daily basis, but ACTUAL PROFESSIONALS are falling victim to the lies about their OWN FIELDS OF EXPERTISE.
the size and shape of populations in modern communities is SO far removed from how humans are designed to live, that we are ALL now not only aware of, but involved with, affairs that we are not designed to compute with our meat brains , and thats BEFORE you before you take into account the crosspollination from the reach of the internet, giving us access to dozens of other countries outside our own to be concerned about, which has created this hellish extension of our natural social homeostatic mechanisms called "compassion fatigue" where our brain begs us to take breaks from HEARING ABOUT GENOCIDES IN OTHER COUNTRIES.
and dont get me started on the recent trend of people abusing mental health language to just fuck with other people. people dodging normal ass confrontations by saying they "cant mentally handle this" or cutting off friends with no explanation because theyve misunderstood the proper applications of therapeutic self-governance. going cold turkey no contact is fine if its an abuser, not your friend who mentioned they liked a new anime. radically self-elevating behaviour is meant to be for people who struggle with self esteem or abuse aftereffects so they can learn to apply it on a more frequent basis at a regular level starting from a deficiency, NOT for people who just refuse to consider another persons value when deciding how to act around them.
its MADDENING, it truly is. how i have just watched the world devolve further and further into this delirious shitstorm of lies and misdirected belief, for my whole life (born a couple years before 9/11, pointedly) but ESPECIALLY in the last like 5 years. what the fuck. what the ACTUAL fuck
this is ok to reblog and discuss on. but if you take nothing away from this, at least take FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE FREE PALESTINE
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ileftherbackhome · 1 year ago
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like, i do not think vegans want to admit that saying "eating meat is bad" is placing a moral value on food but like it is and yall have an issue with the actual act of eating meat irregardless of how it is fucking obtained, like that is what i am saying i finding very fucking infuriating about interacting with yall.
adding "well its bad to eat meat because capitalism" doesn't making the moral value you've placed on food go away dude.
because there are obvious counterarguments to this statement, including the very obvious "eating fruits and veggies is bad because capitalism"
no matter how much you try and justify your stance that eating meat is bad, you are still justifying placing a moral value on food at the end of the fucking day.
and yall would not stop at just getting rid of the capitalization of meat as a product because I have had many debates with my own vegan friends and seen many vegans online argue about whether we should allow people to eat meat if it is ethically sourced. yall argue against eating meat because yall view eating animals as morally wrong, it doesn't matter how it is obtained to yall and yall do not draw the line at capitalizing the meat because if that was the case, you'd support local butcher shops. you view the entire act as morally wrong and you will never convince people who eat meat that it is morally wrong to do so because the evidence is not on your side for that claim.
like, yall literally film yourselves gagging to just the idea of putting meat in your mouth and you think the judgment you place on meat eaters for eating meat is justified because "capitalism" when your entire diet is also funded by fucking capitalism. like are we arguing what is more ethical, killing children in the global south to get our fruits and veggies exported to our markets or caging animals and killing them/torturing them for our animal products?
like, honestly, the human children matter more to me than the animals do if that's the fucking morality argument you wanna get into but at the end of the day, you're still forcing people to place moral values on their fucking food consumption, which is a fucking problem when everybody is living in fucking poverty and nobody can afford to be picky about the food they can buy if it is well balanced and within their budgets in most homes everywhere. which is not the case that produce is cheaper than meat in countries where the global north is exploiting their fucking resources to hoard all the fucking produce to begin with. i dont even know if thats really the case in most homes in the us either.
but honestly, it's insufferable being made to even have these discussions when we can just... like not assign moral values to the foods we eat? like can we not do that? can we stop pretending like what we decide to eat is what makes or breaks us as a person because it's fucking not and there are much more harmful actions you participate every day than what you decide to eat as a person.
food is fucking amoral, stop pretending like putting moral values on the food you buy as a consumer is a decision that you should have to make in order to be a "good" person.
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scarycranegame · 3 months ago
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so i watched that daisy brown arg that everyone was hootin and hollerin about a few years back and i made some observations, particularly about how daisy behaves towards alan/in general really
(warning: you probably aren't gonna like this post if you're in the "daisy never did anything wrong in her life and alan is pure evil" camp; also additional warning for mentions of physical and mental/emotional abuse and theft & death of an animal)
okay so first off, the way daisy treats alan when hes a baby seems a little fucked to me. like.. sorry but i think that using an infant creature to test your dollar store makeup and handling him in a way that looks like you're trying to snap his neck is a lil weird (seriously look at the way she holds him in some scenes from earlier episodes, how the FUCK did his head stay on)
actually let's talk about the fact that she's filming him and posting him online anyways!! yknow how everyone hates youtube "family channels" for broadcasting all their kids' formative years online for countless strangers to see? thats basically what daisy did to alan!!! since he was literally an infant!!! imagine having videos of you as a baby online!!! how wouldn't that fuck someone up!!!!!
this isn't even mentioning the fact that daisy sewed fabric into alan's flesh and it was confirmed once he could speak that it hurt him. yeah she was trying to make sure his head didn't fall off but who the hell sees a living being in pain and goes "oh!! i should stick a needle in it!! :D" (especially since. the needle likely was not sterilized. and also she started doing this when he was in a relatively juvenile stage. yeah)
okay moving onto later videos: i never see anyone talk about the fact that daisy likely stole strawberry.. she mentions in the video where strawberry is introduced that strawberry had a collar, and i mean. cats aren't just born with collars on. so either she stole a cat that escaped from a shelter or she stole a cat from her neighbors. nice. cool. very cool and good behavior definitely Smol Bean Activities™
oh speaking of strawberry! daisy already knew that alan was eating large quantities of meat (lmao)!! and she decided to steal someones cat and keep it in her house despite that!!! even if she adopted strawberry legitimately it would still be a massive irresponsible decision because. [gestures to everything about alan]
oneee more thing about strawberry: so she has this creature that she's taken care of for most of her life (if the captions are anything to go by). and then she sees this random-ass cat wander onto her property. and then she immediately decides that she cares more about this random cat that she's known for less than a day than the creature she's cared for like a mother since her own childhood? yeah i get it cats are cute and all but jesus christ. imagine caring about your pet more than your kid. what the fuck daisy
in defense of daisy:
she's very, very sheltered (if the captions are anything to go by), and thus she likely has no other reference for parenting or interacting with others besides her dad, and her dad was... not great. and it is good that she's at least trying to be better than he was at parenting, but it seems like she doesn't quite understand that baby dolls are not an accurate replica of actual babies
additionally, daisy's father himself introduces alan to her as just a creature. yes, a living creature, but still a creature. not a pet, not a family member, not even a friend, but a chore. "you and i are gonna have to take care of this thing, and yeah i know it's probably gonna suck, but otherwise everything will be fine, don't worry; it's like he's not even there". (if you don't know what i'm talking about here then rewatch the series and turn on the subtitles)
however...
alan also has no reference for basically any human behavior besides daisy, and daisy... basically just treated him like a toy. "human behavior" includes morality and empathy. daisy doesn't seem to have taught him anything besides "other people are toys" from a very, very early age. suddenly him getting a kick out of messing with her makes a little more sense.
some of the more caring things daisy did for alan in the earlier videos could be interpreted very differently through the eyes of an infant creature who can't communicate what they're feeling... specifically i'm talking about the "trying out different sources of sugar" video, where. from alan's point of view, she's basically force feeding him. and also in later videos when she basically ignores him because she's busy doing something else that doesn't involve him.. i think that he might've maybe seen things that weren't really there, so to speak
anyways tldr while daisy is nowhere near as obvious & cartoonishly abusive as alan is, she's still not a perfect person and might've been partially responsible for alan turning out Like That™ because she's been isolated from the entire world for her whole life and has no reference for how to parent correctly.. also justice for alan, he deserved therapy, not death, fuck you guys you guys are just mean/lh
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scentedchildnacho · 1 year ago
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Yea I like programming in waterfall with women in philosophy better for the quiet tea place for the children....well if you had to learn baby buggy with road dudes amplifying everything that trembles you might appreciate whole networks of witnesses deciding what your quiet place is
And the children could jury there could be guest apologists
If its scratch and children's foods....thats cloud based cad....and waterfall I like better....its this missing water flow in consciousness....
The Europeans about serial killers are so way ahead of the tremble car sound bombs
She wanted to know if they let us stay out there
So I said I don't know...I was in new Mexico last year which has largely become a very small population of criminal colonies....so I don't know who the criminal is but they just left them in jail and that must be what structure is they adapt to that and that's just what their release communities want to do.....so the conflict from criminals escalates and I rarely see government or The Law anymore
Basically....the police no longer view the outside as a welcome relief from their job watches in the jail and if people won't relieve them they vanish as not their union protocols
Anyway they post regulations not statutes so I don't think they have decided what they are going to govern yet....normal people don't assume problem but I suspect Paris agreement will win in the end and carbon neutral ideas will in the end finally be implemented
People do need their hood crime watched.......so I suspect in the end police unions have to stop a global researcher
The first Haitian president was a slave so that's what structure is then
Otherwise popular music I don't think the men out here are into camping out....it's his home time from the military and that's just how their community does it dr dre they don't want their party bothered and that's just how their community wants to go about it
I found it kind of annoying and scary at first but now that I've found more resiliency.....it's just okay whatever they have to go to school or jails and they all have serial killers always with them so it's hobbesian life is poverty and misery and people get on with it
They hate women their very open mysoginists here so if he wants whatever I have with men are the truly miserable sex then he goes to what I have and it kills him not me I told him if he wouldn't stop stalking and hating me that he could have my hatred in life and he goes to his cell and makes himself comfortable in my murder so
Well I don't want to die I want to study early childhood care so I make immoral decisions like sick some perps onto other perps of mine
I would of course pick them up and three meals a day of animated care as they prey the meat.
He asked me if there was good camping in pacific beach so I said no there is no good camping in pacific beach....it's a parisian nightmare with building after building after building piled against each other so compared to minimal land in Florida it's very very poorly managed and disturbingly greedy in comparison
Something very poor is always wanting rents to pay bail and let them quickly flee with the property left to storms and impoverished nations to pick up a restitution bill their allowance basically was
I explained if it was me I would be given a couple days to recuperate from a crowd of mass harassment but after it they would stalk me with The Law and try to mess with me.....there is something truly into gross here like truly believes humans are apes like truly a very nasty drug lord of the most notorious
The natives largely disappear if financialism has gone from white to americanism americanism as financial is the most rude and conscriptive they don't allow reforestation of the coast line and that's a horrible nightmare to see that large of a cliche refuse to ask people if they want to see body
I have classes in energy so there are much better jobs in looking into the army corps of engineers and removing some of the buildings with relocation settlements and allowing deconstruction for a large new York park to start some people afford real estate in
Its just a nightmare for my paranoia you can't walk anywhere without constant windows staring at you outside all the time....they hate women....
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helenapsent · 1 year ago
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Anyway, remember what I said about creating a new OC for the "Quest for Camelot" cartoon? About my Harpy? Anyway, I have a sort of normal story for her, a sort of "primary broth" or "backbone" kind of thing
So Let's just say that Harpy is an ancient creature that lives in the Forbidden Forest. She's 12 centuries old. She is a wild, humanoid bird capable of understanding human speech, communicating in it, and giving directions to travelers who are "lucky". Why "lucky"? Because not everyone can find a common language with her. In other words, Harpy is content with the rule of "you favor me, I favor you". If a traveler breaks that rule, Harpy eats him right away. And those who initially had malicious intent and dared to attack the bird-woman are out of the question - she ate them all.
Now let's get to the events of the cartoon. More specifically, a run-in with Ruber, the franchise's chief bad ass. Here, too, mutually beneficial business relations are preserved. True, at first Harpy wanted to eat him (you see, on animals she doesn't really throw itself, considering their "colleagues" and brethren, and a stupid man in the forest is not every day you see, respectively, Harpy is very hungry, and here such a large meat carcass in armor came), but in the course of an unsuccessful battle and negotiating the intentions of both came into force a contract: "you favor me, I favor you". Harpy leads Ruber and his minions to Excalibur, and in return he provides her with food - people he doesn't want.
As the journey progresses, they both reveal other sides of themselves. Conventionally, Ruber is shown not only from the side of a cruel tyrant-criminal, but also from the side of an understanding and caring human being. Harpy, on the other hand, goes from a simple wild creature to a reasonable being capable of affection and mercy. And on the basis of the knowledge of their canonical characters there is a conflict with the understanding of the personalities of the heroes: Harpy does not understand why the companion shows signs of care towards her, just as Ruber does not understand why she no longer pounces on him with fierceness and desire to chew out all the internal organs. I also forgot to add a point: usually in the Forbidden Forest, meeting a harpy is a rather rare event, as harpies themselves are not found in these places, they can only be found in the mountains. There is also a simple answer to this: the entire flock of Harpies was outnumbered by the Knights. Harpy was also not spared from serious injuries - she was partially stripped of her feathers, which made her fly at the level of the middle of the trees or, on the contrary, only walk. After this attack, she and the rest of the group had to move to the Forbidden Forest, and later the whole group of wild female birds scattered on different paths, and soon Harpy herself found their bones and realized that she was stuck alone in the Forbidden Forest for a long time. And when people showed up here, they brought some variety into her life, one way or another. And now there are fewer people in the forest, and Harpy is often hungry. Her deepest wish is to find a new population of harpies and rejoin them, as she is extremely tired of being alone in the forest and socializing only with plants and dragons.
Near the end of the story, I had two developments of this plot: 1) Either Harpy kills and devours Ruber because he disregarded their pact and didn't lead her to the humans (it was a stab in the back, since she shared all her sorrows with him, ripped out her soul, and he just brazenly took advantage of her position). 2) Either after Ruber led her out of the Forbidden Forest and provided her with the protagonist's mother as a "donation", including the protagonist herself, Harpy finally calmed down, thanked Ruber and then walked off into the sunset to look for her own kind. And Ruber had already gotten used to her company and decided to give her a purely friendly ride to the mountains
Thats all
Okay, now I have one random thought that has nothing to do with anything
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pasta-pardner · 2 years ago
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nuclearnerves · 4 years ago
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INCOMING VAMPIRE AU THOUGHTS
Don't mind me I'm finally getting the ideas I had on this shit out so I can actually go forward with developing it as an AU. It's my usual mixup of fps protags, Gordon Guy and John, but I'm starting with Gordon as the Vampire and Guy as the Vampire Hunter.
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What If Being A Vampire Literally Sucks All The Time Forever like chronic pain sucks. like THAT level of sucks. Like Here's what I was thinking of. Being a vampire isn't just "being alive forever but you need to drink human blood" It's like Oh man I have some lore you look at vampires and their main thing is that they're blood suckers right so lets start with a corpse dead body. cadaver. no longer with us. just some rotting meat. The brain needs oxygen as fuel. The blood supplies the oxygen through blood. The blood is pumped through the heart. The blood is made by your bone marrow. You die. Your heart stops beating Blood stops pumping Brain no longer has oxygen to think marrow stops making blood thats standard! Now, becoming undead, as a vampire, is a little more complicated. The long and short of it is: your body is FIGHTING ACTIVELY to be alive against all odds and wins every time (immortality), but it hurts the whole way
I have the gist of it. It's like. Your heart stops. By all means, you should be dead. but the magic kicks in, and you're still thinking. Your brain is still sending signals to your muscles to move. But using what oxygen to move? whats burning in you? You don't know but you know it's just enough to get to your next meal. So you ferociously eat something, and then find you can't swallow. You can't make saliva. You barely have the energy to chew, and once you DO get something in your stomach, it immediately comes back up. Why can't you feel your pulse? What's going on? You're out of options so you figure you might as well just lie down and die. You're too tired to keep going anyway. So you do, you lie down, and you close your eyes, and you quietly hope that death is as peaceful as sleep. You realize you've actually been moving around without breathing, which makes sense because you can barely flex your diaphragm for more than a shaky wheeze. How are you thinking with such little oxygen? But as you fade from consciousness, you can feel something in you, and it's so upset, it's crying, it's filled with grief, and you instantly can tell it's your skeleton. It's your bones. You're distraught down to your marrow. You're dying. You're dying! Your heart stopped and you have no more blood! You need blood! You need blood to move! To breathe! To think! You try to breath deep again for the voices in your bones, trying to comfort them, to sooth them with the repetitive motion in your lungs, trying to fill yourself with anything but grief, but they keep wailing. We make the blood, our creation, our child, what we put all of our work into is gone! gone! gone! We need it back! Anything! All of it! Find it! Bring it back to us! We're hungry! WE'RE HUNGRY!
and once you find yourself too exhausted to listen, to think, how badly you wish just to die already to cease hearing this wailing, you find your body moving without you. And it's hungry and it's searching and it's crawling on all fours and it misses its beautiful red life that made it feel so full before and it needs it back, and the next thing you know you're desperately grabbing anything with blood in it and shoving it in your mouth in a desperate attempt to sooth this cry for life, you don't want to die, you don't want to die, you worked so hard to keep up this body and craft it and LIVE with it and you're not going to go, and even when you try, even when you try to lay down and die, your body refuses, it takes the reigns, and it keeps up the work itself with or without your help. And it's not until your stomach is full and your teeth are stained and you feel a pulsating burning in your bones that you snap back awake, completely conscious, just fine. You're lucid, you don't feel any more pain. Everything around you is dead and drained and messy and your heart still isn't beating. but you can breathe now and holy shit you guess you literally need to kill to survive and the less you eat and the more you starve yourself the worse it gets when your body finally decides to take recourse.
my idea was like. "the vampires curse is actually stored in the bones, thats why the teeth get so sharp and also theres a connection between blood and bones with the creation via bone marrow" its literally like i was sitting there thinking "no no no, whats it like to be a vampire. what neurosis would you develop. How would you panic? What are common mistakes beginner vampires make" which, by the way, gordon is a beginner vampire
so now you gotta factor, what blood lasts for how long? how long can you go between meals? not only that, but what creatures satisfy the urge? How long can you go avoiding human blood? Does it work like drugs where you develop a resistance to the high, or is it like food where it will keep you moving until you eat again? How the fuck are you gonna get your hands on blood? Can you just eat raw meat? Does that count? and thats where im at lol
OKAY now. now thoughts on beginning scenes of vampire au
So my idea was this Doomguy is a vampire hunter independent and one of his buds says that some freak scared and almost attacked his daughter when she got too close to his old abandoned laboratory up the hill and hes like “he might be… you know… a problem. if you needed a lead” and guys like yeah i fuckin hate the undead ill kill this dude so he busts into old lab space and sees so many dead animals its actually mostly Bones and pelt that hes seeing piles of feathers etc so hes like yeah this is all telltale signs of vampire uhhh hes introduced to gordon SOMEHOW im not totally sure of the details but the working idea i have is guy falls into a trap gordon devised that restrains him suspended in wire or something and gordon like. limps/stumbles into the room and this dude looks haggard he’s breathing heavy, his cheeks are hollow, he’s bug-eyed and shaking while looking at this massive wall of meat in his trap and he bares a bunch of hideous teeth and grits them and looks like hes really struggling with somethin... Like if these dudes don't know each other then Gordon might give in and try to drain Guy, and Guy would absolutely do anything in his power to turn this new vampire into ash, im thinking the inclusion if g-man as a coven leader can fix both issues.
i like the idea of guy falling into gordons trap and gordon thinking about what to do with him before gman shows up and whisks gordon away for a “meeting” while complimenting him on his good work catching the most feared vampire hunter in the country and gman just leaving guy suspended in wires that he has to fight his way out of. Instant situation defuser.
Guy ends up needing to take care of other monsters before going back to Gordon, and he DOES plan to go back to gordon, because no vampire is a good one, especially not one associated with the fucking head of a coven, but next time he sees Gordon, Gordon helps him out of a scrape by attacking and draining a combine who was going to take Guy out or something and escaping before Guy can catch him, or otherwise seeing Gordon do something good with his insane undead powers and like, the third time he meets up with him is when they can actually talk, and Gordons fuckin SO haggard, he’s not even fighting back and he’s even going as far as to say “just make sure theres nothing of me left when you’re done, I don’t want anyone else getting hurt”
Side Note: Guy has a bunch of scarring on his body from dealing with vampires, cops, ghosts, werewolves, anything violent that kills people. I'm playing with the inkling of an idea that he has Divine Blood in him, so that any time something undead bites him or tries to drink his blood, it burns. We'll see.
Side Note 2: now i really like the idea of the combine actually being an organized faction of vampire hunters that are WICKED crooked and exploit people for all their worth in exchange for their “safety” when they kill a vampire They’re essentially loansharks and Guy fucking hates them and hates the name theyve given to vampire hunting
Side Note 3: You've probably noticed that I haven't said anything about John yet! He's in this too. His species is a surprise but I need to get to him later I have an idea for where he came from (Cortana too)
I still need a good reason for Guy to not instantly kill this vampire, if not it's just gonna be "Gordon Freeman escapes the countrys best vampire hunter like a seventh time" every time they meet and they end up being rivals. And it gives Guy enough time to look past the whole "undead monster" thing and start looking at the "Oh this dude figured out how to fight his ridiculous craving for blood in a way more humane than most and is actually staying out of peoples way and keeping to himself. Guess he's not that big of a threat but I still need to keep an eye on him in case he loses it. Turns out he's got a family (Probably Alyx, Eli, Issac and Barney) who's been lookin for him and cares about him as well, don't wanna hurt them". I like the idea of them ending up needing to team up to take out undead together.
And that's what I got so far!!!
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stray-tori · 4 years ago
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TPN S2 Appreciation
I remembered I started this so here we are: there's a lot of problems with s2 but you've probably heard everyone talk about them anyway so I'm skipping that and going straight to all the stuff I DID like about s2:
opening
episode 1
(episode 1) seeing them interact with the environment
(episode 1) Ray running + being out of breath animation and voice acting
episode 2
(episode 2) especially the parallel with the drop like holy shit
episode 3
(episode 3) the fish bug scene while maybe out-of-place is pretty cute and funny
(episode 3) the wall scare is pretty ominous and as of ep3, not yet stupid.
the **OPENING**
(episode 4)
(episode 5) the shot of the apple rolling and the camera turning over with it. so cool.
(episode 4) Ray shooting the demon animation cut even though Emma was robbed
(episode 4) Chris knowing the bunker tunnels after we saw him playing there with other children is really nice. Especially knowing that in the manga he's sad he can't explore properly, I think it's a nice in-character touch haha.
(episode 5) masked Norman with blood splattering behind him
Myuk Mahou cover art makes them look so cuteeeee
portraying the two worlds in parallel from the OP to wanting to care and save your family
the opening making me cry every time
cup-kun memes
(episode 3) them entering the bunker being so fecking tense and suspenseful, like i was expecting a corpse the entire time pff-
(episode 5) ray and emma using hand signals during the rooftop chase
(episode 5) the natural in-convo reveal about how they hide their scent by Lani/Thoma
(epsiode 5) the detail that they throw it in the fire to spread the masking scent when the old demon gets there
(episode 5) the old demon scene (listen ik people questioned this, but it's an old weak demon... I kind of see it like helping out a weak strong animal. I doubt this old geezer would have jumped Emma; it could reveal their location, that's true, but oh well - it’s implied he met them more often before so maybe Emma just slowly considered over time / maybe her realizing they’re not that different and all that yadayada)
(episode 5) Emma doubting herself because they've literally just been chased around (ik some people didn't like this and I get why but they've been barely surviving for like 11 months... she's lost and paralyzed, she's allowed to have her doubts, though they could be worded a bit differently. It just sucks that there wasn’t much of an arc regarding this after that, so. Yay Norman Christ has rescued us all.)
(episode 6) the reunion hug / scene, it looked so soft and nice ahhh- the entire art in that scene was just nice.
(episode 6) the atmosphere and framing of when Barbara was eating the demon meat. it came pretty unexpected and the moment you realize was such a big “ohhh… oh no.“
(episode 7) Lani and Thoma mentioning the migrating birds during their tower watch and that then later coming back when the kids think about where they could be was nice!
(episode 7) Norman’s soft “be careful” to Emma and Ray
(episode 7) Also Ray's reaction to "the gate is in gf" is just a mood haha
(episode 7) THE SHIPMENT PARALLELS! the sounds, grabbing his hand this time when he had to take hers during his shipment AHHH-
(episode 7) evolvment of the “dont do it on your own / involve your family/friends” by asking Gilda and Don to come with them on the search for Sonju/Mujika. Sadly this doesn’t carry over to ep11 where they decide to do sth as drastic as staying behind for god-knows-how-long without letting anyone know beforehand.
(episode 7) like their reactions to it are so wholesome, I really like how it is portrayed. Especially because up until now Emma was still bottling up. Idk I like that it takes a while for this to really settle in properly.
episode 8
(episode 8) “are you god?” / “I’ll be a god or a devil” / “are you a human?”
(episode 8) showing the demon suffering pretty graphically for what I expected
(episode 8) the simple fact that I got the experience of pure euphoria and a laughing attack when the parallel between Vylk and Norman was actually a thing, when I was so confused why they both had a distinct characteristic (the walking stick) in episode 5. My friends thought I was crazy but I was just big brain. (we were robbed of more stick though)
(episode 8) norman hand symbolism, with blood, Emma grabbing it, him looking at it and how it ties Emma to his plan inherently and then when it's not his blood on his hands but someone's that he's taking away from another living being.
(episode 9) the unspoken realization that he’s not the only one being tested by the test scanner was on the right-hand side. good shit. Ik thats technically not the anime’s idea but I like how they put the focus on it with blur and didn’t actively state it.
(episode 9) him coughing up blood to show how fast it’s been progressing/getting worse // though that implies he refused to take his meds OR that its that bad even with the meds which I don’t think is the point. Like the psychological warfare of giving the kids a condition that they can only fight while they’re in their prison bc they’ll run out of meds is just. hHHH
(episode 9) I really liked Norman going to talk to Vylk and… hhh- Emma *AHEM* and how he didn’t really know what to say, and .........… E-EmMa going up to him and apologizing for what demons did, showing empathy and understanding AND ABSOLUTING WRECKING NORMAN and me. man, cycle of hatred bad.
(episode 10) Emma speaking over the radio to everyone is just… so heartfelt ahh
(episode 10) The little kids sneaking amongst the others is rly cute and honestly kind of epic haha
(episode 10) the moms/sisters either not noticing them or not doing anything bc they’re on their side anyway is just… a funny thing to think about either way
(episode 10) Phil and Emma hug TvT
(episode 10/11) MICHELLEEEEEEE
(episode 11) the turning ceiling is pretty
(episode 11) I like the shadow asthetic of the Ratri exposition, generally the Ratri exposition is pretty nice aside from being so fast you cannot take all that in and process it properly
(episode 11) dramatic gate closing is dramatic
(episode 11) the slideshow of them in the human world gives nice glimpses into things, even if… very vague haha. Especially the shot of Isabella playing guitar stuck with me. And Phil on a train! Not a steam one, sadly.
(episode 11) while the demon world slideshow is uhhhhh SOMETHING, I do like that the weird dragon-on-water thing is in both the Ratri exposition during the promise thing and then also at the end, which at least gives A BIT of context to what's likely happening. Idk I liked that, but then again my standards aren't very high.
I'm not saying any of this outweighs the problems bc oh boy, but ye.
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Other possible Holocausts: why pro-lifers are lying to us, and why thats a good thing
Ive had a running argument over the past few years that the raw lack of anti-abortion terrorist action proves no one really thinks abortion is murder, ie. intentional 1st degree murder of a life equal to yours or mine.
Ive always gotten pushback to quote WillyWang:
The "revealed preference" of those that oppose abortion but don't firebomb clinics and kill doctors? It won't help, you'll be made an example of in the negative sense, and civilized norms are more important than a useless symbolic point. One clinic destroyed won't end abortion, after all.
From which this Effort-post got its Genesis:
Would you say the same about those who participated in the french resistance or Warsaw Ghetto rising to Nazi Germany?
Everyone of those claims applies there: they were likely to be made examples of, they were damaging civilized norms, and any given action had relatively little to no impact.
Yet the same people who insist abortion is murder, and thus that America is committing a holocaust, yet denounce any of the people who employed violence against abortion doctors or clinics, and can’t distance themselves fast enough from any call for violence... none of those people apply the same logic to the first holocaust. None of them say the frenchmen who bombed german police stations where dangerous terrorists who deserved their executions, none of them denounce the Warsaw ghetto rising as an attack on civilization.
If anti-abortion advocated genuinely believed a fetus was a equivalent human life to yours or mine or the little kids they see walk to school, and that this was an ongoing holocaust of American Children at a scale possibly 10x or more what was done to the jews... they wouldn’t need to come up with ad hoc reasons why they don’t resort to violence, their mind would be screaming at them to take bloody vengeance 24/7 in righteous outrage, demanding that oceans of blood and fire be unleashed that it might wash clean the horror, that nuclear fire would be be an acceptable emergency shut off to end such wanton and cruel slaughter... and if thinking through all the logic they concluded that no violence wouldn’t help and they must pursue some peaceful negotiation to stop the slaughter, then their minds recoil and call themselves cowards and the moment of coming to that conclusion would be an ongoing trauma they’d carry with them for the rest of their life, even if they knew they were 100% right. They would meet the “pro-choice” and barely be able to conceal their desire to see them dead or imprisoned... they would meet women who had had abortions and scream bloody murder at them and tell them they deserve the death penalty, the way many of the same people react when presented with women who’d murdered their children, but after their children had left the womb.
The people who were jailed for assassinating abortionists, or fire-bombing clinics would be folk heroes lionized in songs and crowd funded hagiographic documentaries and folk traditions, like John Brown, or John Wilkes Booth, or Louis Reil, or Saco and Vancety, or Huey Newton, or Malcolm X, or David Koresh, or Levoy Finecolm... or hell even just Jesse James, or Killdozer.
Americans abort on average 1 million plus babies a year... that means if abortion is murder and those are human lives, then the 50 years since Roe vs.Wade has been a worse crime than the holocaust, slavery, or the crimes of Stalin, and we’d have to consult a historian to see if they were worse than Mao (on a per capita basis, certainly)...
This would be the worse crime ever commited, the greatest mass slaughter ever perpetrated in human history, and 50 years later our society would remain committed to repeating it in the next 50 years.
If that does not demand violence, then nothing in human history ever has, no even defensive war has ever been justified, and only Jainists and Jehovah’s witnesses are morally acceptable actors. An extreme unexceedable pascifism we know the vast majority of anti-abortion advocates do not endorse, since they overwhelming supported or at-least did not conspicuously oppose the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (over a mere 3000 Americans dead, and a less than a years abortions worth of Iraqis killed by Saddam) and continue to conspicuously “Support our troops” troops that exist to carry out violence, despite their moral commitments saying they can apparently never in human history be justified.
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When i say this proves “Pro-lifers” clearly do not believe a fetus is an equal human life, thats me being incredibly charitable. That is me extending a overwhelming large olive branch, that is me expressing a stupendous care and concern and sympathy and brotherly love to rival the best 19th century dinner host, the dearest of friends, a benevolent older sibling, a lover, a parent, a mother who on hearing the taped confession of her son to serial murder, doesn’t hesitate once before screaming “you monsters you’ve drugged and tortured him! What threats have you made to my grandchild! He would only say such things to save his daughter’s life!”
My claiming they are full of shit and lying to themselves, to you, and to me, is an expression of love and faith in my fellow man which until now I did not realized I possessed nor was capable of...
Because if I merely took them at their word? If I believed that they believed what they say they believe? They would be monsters.
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Lets play a game called “Other Possible Holocausts”. Approximately 800,000 babies where aborted this year.
Lets imagine the US government has just announced that crime has gotten to cumbersome and that over the next 3 years it plans to execute every single one of the 2.4 million people in US prisons jails and Jeuvenile detention centres.
Lets imagine that to reform education, the US resolves to kill the bottom 1% of all 80 million students in the country based on an age adjusted standardized test every year.
Lets imagine hatred of the obese takes off, and a policy is passed to resolve America’s 30% obesity rate by the mass instituting of bounties on hunting and killing the obese... that every year 800,000 to 1.5 million tags will be issued for a fee to allow the hunting of the obese in return for monetary rewards on successful hunts and getting to keep the carcasses for meat base animal foods and the manufacture of fuel, or fat based household products. These bounty hunters become known a “whalers”.
Lets imagine the US announces its done with African Americans... if the problem hasn’t been solved since 1619, its not going to be... and so they’re going to genocide all 40 million African Americans at a rate of 2% a year, for the next 50 years.
Lets imagine opposing extremists get in charge and decide the racists rednecks have to go, and so they’ll be forming death squads to roam the South, Appalachia, and the rust belt, with the objective of killing 800,000 poor whites a year, “until the problem is solved”... with many happily stating 50 years of this would be acceptable, while others state it’d be perfectly fine to renew it another 50 years after that.
These are all American lives, and according to pro-lifers of equal moral value to the babies aborted every day, no better, no worse.
By saying this and by saying violence is not and cannot be justified to resist it, they are saying that their reactions to any one of the above eventualities would be to continue to live their lives as they have lived the past 50 years.
I do not know how to respond to that. Even if Abortion is truly murder of an ensouled equal human life... The Pro-choicers committing the murders don’t think it is... hell the Nazis murdered 6 million jews and a further 5 million undesirables, but they didn’t think of them as human, they thought they were monstrous and “life unworthy of life”, like a burning man begging you to shoot him so he doesn’t suffer or hurt his fellows... a mercy in a way.
Pro-lifers on the other hand claim these are equal viable human lives of equal status to yours or mine or perhaps even greater.... They’re Children.
And their reaction to the greatest mass slaughter in human history, the reaction of almost half the electorate, who regularly talk about the need to resist tyrrany and defend the weak (as both left and right in the US do, in their way), their reaction is to vote every 4 years, and have it perhaps not even be the #1 issue if the economy seems bad, they have the opportunity to vote for the first black president, or the Orangeman says something crude about Mexicans... they won’t be single issue voters even when it comes to the greatest crime ever committed in human history?
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I refuse to believe it. Even I, cynical as I am, have to believe we are not that far gone, and the age of men has not come crashing down... i would believe the US capable of such a crime, but to believe that a double digit percentage of Americans could look at that, recognize the victims as their fellow humans,recognize their state and society as committing mass murder of their neighbours, future friends, and relatives...to recognize that they have a moral imperative to act on this... and then just go “welp them’s the breaks, gotta be civilized” because 9 people in black robes said it wasn’t murder?
Holy fuck. No that is not how people work, that is not how humans behave, I cannot accept that, and leftists who spent the summer rioting in response to fewer than a thousand police killings of black men a year, who remember the civil rights and anti-war movements, who kinda vaguely recall that they’re supposed to remember Huey Newton, or Saco and Vanseti, or those Rossen...something people... who like to imagine they’d have been abolitionists in the 19th century. They’re right to call bullshit.
They’re right to call the pro-lifers liars who don’t believe their own messaging, and instead just want to control women’s bodies, after a lie like that to their face, they’re right to treat them with scorn.
Pro-life is rescuable as a sentiment and an activist movement...
But not while it claims a Holocaust is going on and somehow magically no violence could ever be justified to resist it, thus lining up all the arguments that will allow the next holocaust to be committed without resistance.
There have been a double digit, perhaps even a triple digit number of mass murders and genocides in the hundreds of thousands or millions of people, since the 20th century. America is enabling its ally Saudi Arabia to commit one against the Yemenis right fucking now.
We need to be very fucking clear about what it is justified to do to members of a regime that commits such a crime, and what it is definitely justified to do to the immediate perpetrators of the murder. And That we will back violent resistance to such a horrible crime by the state even if it serves only to make the resister a martyr we’ll praise, or it degrades “civilization” (what civilization could remain in such a regime?), or it ultimately has no effect (it is on the survivor to try harder)... The major members of the House of Saud deserve the Gallows under international law for what they’re doing in Yemen , as do their American attaches and core enablers... and if that comes from a Judge in the Hauge or from a convoy of irregulars in pickup trucks, or from lone assassins who manage to get through to them, It is justice, and i will praise it.
What we cannot do is pretend that genocides and mass slaughter on unconscionable scales are occurring and then come up with excuses for why we should do nothing and anyone who does resist is a criminal. Or else those excuses will be the ones that allow the next real genocide in the west or on US soil to actually happen.
If there is a genocide or democide or whatever you want to call mass slaughter. You must recognize the justice the violent resistance to it, even if you personally do not participate, or you must admit you were lying about there being such a crime... to say otherwise, to say a state can commit such a crime and still retain its right to your loyalty, to say a people up to and including its victims must obey such a thing, a creature made of bureaucracy that has set its sights on massacring humans by the thousands if not millions... it is to side against the human race in a war of extermination.
And as someone whose pro-choice as they come, I’d much rather, if the pro-lifers really believe its murder, I’d much rather they start a bloody civil war, than for it to become the norm that that is ethically acceptable.
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ukgingertom · 3 years ago
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Will lowering our carbon footprint help?
It's what's getting the blame but the planet is 1 complicated interlinked living thing and I've SERIOUS doubts the cause is so simple as too much carbon.
Will insulating Britain help?
Well us in Britain will be a little warmer and our energy bills might be a bit lower.
Will going vegan help?
It will help create a black market in meat which will effect wild animal's more than we do already.
So of course it WON'T, that's like a surgeon fixing a hole in a heart with a sticky plaster.
The "experts" (🤣🤣) are looking at the end results and trying to reverse them and that's it 🤷‍♂️ We can't see the problems BEFORE they become a problem 😐
The problem will not END because they are not dealing with the cause.
The answer IS out there in the wild where no 1 is looking. WHAT 🤔 still can't see the wood for the trees???
1st let's forget about humans and look at what's left on earth. A crazy bunch of mixed up species of animal's. Are they polluting, destroying, burning, invading any part of the earth??
NO, they stay where they are and only take what they need to survive, its as simple as that. Without the intelligent species of the planet (😂 who called us that) this planet wouldn't be in the sorry state it is.
Mother nature has been doing her best to keep ALL the animals ( humans included ) on the planet under control, between using the climate, diseases and germs, add in a few predators and accidental injury and you've got a controlled population.
Every thing was going fine until 1 animal began to invade other area's. This allowed all sorts of other animals (don't forget us humans are included) to spread, accidentally as well as deliberately, beyond their designed areas. Spreading germs and diseases into clean environments killing masses of animal's (don't forget that's humans too).
Then this 1 species not happy with invading the rest of the planet, also picked a fight with mother nature with her population controls and decided to be "GOD" unto itself and start to fix itself when broken or protect itself when mother nature dealt her hand of diseases and storms etc.
This 1 animal now has gained some success at controlling Mother natures germs and diseases, it can control or kill it's predators resulting in an uncontrollable population explosion thats STILL increasing.
We humans are quick to ban animals, plants etc from entry to 1 bit of The World saying and I quote
"it is an invasive species that will decimate local wildlife, flora or fauna".
WOW isn't that "the pot calling the kettle black", so the intelligent species after all its time on the planet has learned 1 lesson, or did it 🤷‍♂️ it's still not turned around and looked back at what IT has done and STILL doing, it was the 1st species to invade and decimate the local wildlife, flora and fauna but it didn't stop there, no it bought species specific diseases as well, killing it's own kind that WERE native to the land invaded.
This animal is now trying to invade space and once there, I'm quite sure they WILL want to travel, eventually finding somewhere that matches it's needs and start the whole world wreaking process all over again. If we do managed this I promise we won't make the same mistakes again, NO, we'll make NEW ways to do it but not realise the the end result will be the same all because we THINK we are the intelligent species.
The dinosaurs managed 165 million years before that big rock wiped them out, us humans have been around for just 6 million, so we got a long time to go before the next big rock comes around you think, maybe 100 million years 🤔🤔🤔🤔 if this is what we can do in just the last few hundred years I doubt the species can survive ITSELF.
6 MILLION years and we have messed it up so bad in just the last what, maybe 400 years at most. Let's break those numbers down to something more understandable. If humans have been on the planet for 55,000 year's then that would mean we messed it up in just the last 4 DAY'S 😬
Have we any chance🤔 simply... NO because we can't get on together at all, every single country has laws banning something, theft, murder, stealing (to name a few) as if we need to know these things are wrong BUT thousands of laws are broken every second of every day everywhere, and we're not just talking about individual's, it's company's, big business, even country's. The only liveable world is a perfect world and we can never have that because you CAN'T please everybody ALL the time.
We are going to be our own EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT and we're heading head first at it with shades on thinking "is my music loud enough?"
I hope Mother nature can survive us, repair the planet and start again.... just without us this time, just the real intelligent animals.
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