#intpdreamer

[intjandothers]

INTx, reading a romantic book: Wow, I wish I had a romantic life like this.

Also INTx: No, I most certainly don't want to meet anyone. I don't like people, people make me uncomfortable, relationships are way too complicated, and people are so needy. I'm content with my book, thank you very much.

[16personalities-says-im-intp]

ISTP: You know, lately I feel alarmingly very unmotivated. *Stares at INTP*

INTP: What?

ISTP: Is that some sort of disorder or syndrome that you know?

INTP: I don't know. Midlife crisis maybe?

ISTP: *laughs out loud* We're not even at our 30s

INTP: Hahaha then pre-midlife crisis then idk. I feel burned out ever since I'm 15 and many are like that lately before even hitting 30s. So maybe it's just a common thing now, weirdly it still has no proper name.

[thechopinlisztobsessive]

Do you also experience a monthly mental breakdown, combined with a nightly cry marathon which makes you call in question if your weak-ass self can actually be an INFP or you were actually misread by the mbti test 3 times or you think you may have cheated by accidentally not showing your real personality on the test, or are you normal?

I need to know

[focsle]

Luckily I live in Ireland so the summers aren't too bad for me right now, but I also get reverse sad. My mom gets regular sad, so between the two of us someone in the house is guaranteed to be having a bad time all year round.

We are all simply plants with competing needs for different levels of sunlight. ):

[thecrazymindofanintp]

Mood honestly

Largely the reason that I got into MBTI and Enneagram is because of constantly being misunderstood by literally everyone.

[elias-rights]

I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish but I was trying to follow the gist of your Web Martin post based on my knowledge of other Latin based languages, but then this sentence:

Smacked me in the face as the only words I understood in a whole paragraph and now I desperately want to know the context.

JJFKSJDJS That he was right is in reference to this

scene; my mutual and I were discussing how JM could be an engaging dynamic if the narrative acknowledged their dysfunctionality, especially how Jon's need for Martin to be okay very straightforwardly comes across as him feeling guilty for the deaths of Tim and Sasha and projecting his humanity onto him.

That he was sexy, well... That's just a universal fact.

[fakecrfan]

You say that a lot of people see the other's plan as wronging Jon specifically, more than the people in other worlds, and while I disagree with that reasoning, I think it's unfair to use that as proof of pro Jon bias (or, well, there being more pro Jon bias than pro other characters bias) when a lot of people's objections to Jon's actions are along the lines of "he betrayed the group!" or "he betrayed Martin!" (hell, look at the complaint about him "not listening" - which, yes, is first said in canon, but echoed a lot in fandom. Surely you agree that whether he was right or wrong, he should have based his decision on which choice was morally better, not on "listening" to the rest of the group.)

Ah, I think a lot of people took my reply to my friend’s post musing “I have seen people make arguments for Jon that irritate me, and gotten into arguments with people who excuse Jon in ways that they don’t other avatars like Daisy” as me saying “I think Jon was wrong in the finale episode and the others are right.” (Edit: Or that I am saying everyone who thinks Jon was right is just biased in Jon’s favor.)

That is not true. I think that the well-being of the countless people we don’t see is waaaaaaaay more important than that of Jon, Martin, Georgie, or any of the other group. And, as I have said in another reply, I think that Jon’s idea at the end was better, even though he was trapping his friends in an objectively horrible situation. (Here is the ask where I elaborate on those feelings.)

It’s just that most of the discussion I have seen on the morality of the finale is all about “Is Jon A Good Person Or A Bad Person, And Was Everyone Else Being Mean To Him.” And that frustrates me. But that could just be that I have had Bad Luck with what side of the discussions I have seen, and that most of the takes are something else.

As for whether Jon should base his decision on the group or on what is “morally correct”... hm.

Well, let me ask you this: what do you think about democracy?

Like, in general, most people I have talked to agree that some sort of democratic decision making is better than a single person making a decision on what gets to happen to everyone. Generally, this is how people agree societies should be run and decisions should be made. If not everyone gets to decide, then surely people who represent the groups of the people unspoken for should get to make the decisions.

Here’s another question: how do you feel about peer review? or scientific consensus?

If 20 scientists say X is the answer, and 1 scientist says Y is the answer... do you think we should trust the group more, or the single scientist? If you think the former--congratulations, that’s how science works, generally. Things are done in groups, because the idea is that multiple people are more likely to correct each other’s biases than one person alone who doesn’t take the perspective of other people into account.

(Of course, it is still possible that the single person gets vindicated by time and the group of 20 was wrong. But generally speaking--there is a reason that science works by consensus.)

So, with that in mind, tell me this: how can Jon know he is right?

Because when you say “he should choose what is morally correct over what the group wants” that sounds like a perfectly simple idea when you phrase it that way. But since morality isn’t something with an objective measure, what that comes down to, in practice, is “Jon should choose what he thinks is morally correct over what everyone else agrees is morally correct.”

Jon is currently being psychologically pulled to do what the Beholding wants. It’s a pressure that has, in the past, caused him to hurt innocent bystanders and justify it to himself. Can he trust his own judgment, given that is directly being influenced by a horror entity that feeds on suffering? Can he trust his own judgment given that, a few episodes ago, he was gushing to Martin about how he could rule the hell world and make the suffering fair--and he clearly mostly wanted to do this for the power/pleasure, and was using morality as a justification?

(It turns out fine when he does it but how can he know it will--was it really a safe bet, or did he just get lucky?)

Is it a good idea for him to trust his own idea of right and wrong over that of... the other people who are available to make a decision? Over the people who he would be trapping alone in a world where everything else dies screaming around them--while he gets to ascend to a position of pleasure and power?

And see--I say all of this still thinking that Jon’s idea is better.

It’s just--the idea that one person alone shouldn’t get to decide what is moral has a lot more merit than I think you are giving it credit for. Jon is not infallible. No single person ever is infallible. There is a reason to make decisions in groups, especially decisions that will effect so many people.

When is it better to trust your own idea of what is moral--over the people you are condemning to suffer? It’s not really something you can know objectively. You just have to make a bet.

Jon bets on his own idea of what is “morally correct.” I think he is right in the finale--but he hasn’t always been in the past. So I think the idea that he should defer to the group has merit even if I (at time of writing this) currently disagree in this instance specifically.

[ukhaepjm]

intps and subtext

yeah, that's it. intps hate subtext either cause they really don't know what's going on or either cause they like honesty and truth.

for me, it gets on my nerves whenever someone is just mad or angry at me and it's obvious cause feels like they tryna manipulate me into feeling bad without a reason at all. sometimes someone is mad at me but it isn't like so clear and as i'm minding my business i don't even realize someone is mad. until other person tells me.

the point is as an intp i hate it, i don't have time to fuck around. if you have a problem with me just say it to me straight. we'll talk about it and that's it. but don't play games, don't subtext all the time. i really hate the situation "elephant in the room", if there's a problem it must be talked. then we move to another point. it fucking gets on my nerves cause most of the times when there's an elephant in the room people doesn't even say anything so i'm the one who takes the time to call out everyone to discuss the issue.

there's a problem okay we talk about it, figure it out and that's it. that's how life should work but keeping a problem? that doesn't make you any favor. however, it can be useful if the discussion isn't worth it. discussing with someone who won't listen isn't worth it.

i mind my fucking business, never subtext and whenever i have a problem i reach the other to solve it.

guys don't fucking subtext, it gets on our fucking nerves. daily business stress us the fuck out and subtext, god I can't really tell how much we hate it. I say it, routines and daily business stress us the fuck out. drama, shenanigans, we hate that. we want peace and chilling out. we can only get that by approaching things directly. if you have a problem just tell it straight, there's no point on not doing that.

also i should be studying but yk your local disappointment is always procrastinating something✌🏻

[myersbriggsmadness]

INTP: my type must be different now... better retake the test

Test (for 999th time): You are... an INTP!

INTP: yeah but what if...

Then one fateful day...

INTP: my type must be different now... better retake the test

Test: You are... an INTJ!

INTP: No no... this can’t be right... I always get INTP... I’m an INTP because *tries to reason with self*

[intjandothers]

INTx: *locked in their house for weeks, INTXing*

INTx: Alright, time to go out for a bit. This might be getting slightly unhealthy.

- 30 minutes later -

INTx: No, I was wrong. People are unhealthy. I'm back to my cave.

[kiranatrix]

Pet pic for the ask game! (cat is not actually mine, it just lived near my university accommodation, but I hope it will do)

Awww what a cutie!! I love cats but can’t have one because I have a bird, so I love seeing other people’s cats! Thanks for sharing

[sybilius]

Every day I discover a new sideblog of yours... (I say this with utmost affection)

It’s all about the carefully-well defined boxes to allow myself to curate content for the purpose of fandom interaction without feeling like I need to stifle my self expression :3

which one was it, out of curiousity? 

EDIT: oh, I assume @gutterinouterspace? Yeah I’m vibing all my Disco Elysium feels there right now ^_^ 

[ieattaperecorders]

intpdreamer

replied to your post

“The statements that I hear the get described as scary the most often...”

If you don't mind me asking, which were the ones you found especially scary?

There’s a few that really stick out as really creepy and/or underrated in terms of creepiness to me. 

Third Degree. A mysterious, unnatural authority figure that can force you to betray what you love most? Fuck! The elements that are left unexplained only add to the creepiness (why is he sure he’ll burn his friends if he touches them? Why is he so certain that despite everything he must not answer the policeman’s second question?) 

Personal Space, holy shit. The very idea of being in space and suddenly seeing the world disappear with no explanation??? Not destroyed just inexplicably vanished? And the cut wires on the camera? The empty, floating space suit? "No one is coming” repeated over and over?? Fuuuuck.

Creature Feature’s ending is kind of par for the course horror imagery but the concept of what Widow’s Weave would be like as a film is so chilling it elevates the whole statement for me. Just imagine the maddening repetition of that ending coming again and again, for every character - a long, slow march into the jaws of a monster.

“We’ve taken ill. We’ve passed away.” NO FURTHER COMMENTARY NEEDED.

This one is usually brought up as one of the sillier or dumber statements but Binary is genuinely freaky to me. It’s got a serious creepypasta vibe, it’s true. But the weird, transhumanist horror is really intense, and there’s something really horrifying about the video forcing her to watch it.

Also! Honorable mention to The Architecture of Fear. It’s mostly lore on Smirke and his bad life choices, but it has some seriously freaky imagery in it. The driver turning his head around is great, but seeing his daughter slowly turn towards him just as the candle goes out, then having her standing inches from him when he relights it?! GOOD shit!

[argumate]

"you could hardly describe them as a loving couple!" is unfortunately exactly the argument homophobic Christians use, as they are adamant that it is only "love" if you intend to raise a child together, otherwise it is merely, uh, carnal desire.

...They are wrong of course (not that there would be anything wrong with some good old carnal desire), but they do know how to those the words for this argument.

sure, but Christians like that have no meaningful concept of love, whether they are Baptists asserting that god hates fags or Catholics asserting that going down on your wife is abuse unless you ejaculate in her immediately afterwards.

if one can still be a loving couple after menopause or a hysterectomy then as Dan Savage said “I’ll keep on inseminating my husband and praying for a miracle”.

[elias-rights]

Lonelyeyes for 002 and Jon for 003?

I forgot this was in my inbox! Sorry for the delay.

Lonelyeyes

When or if I started shipping it: I was already aware of the ship thanks to memes, and I found the concept hilarious, so pretty much from the beginning.

My thoughts: Apologies for the homestuck, but they're flush/pitch vacillating. Okay, I love that their patrons are such opposites, and I love the new meaning the mortifying ordeal quote takes when it's about them. All Jonahlias ships have a distinct tragic beauty that Loneyeyes certainly possesses; it is the tragedy that comes when you have a character whose ambition and egoism force him to sacrifice everything he once had in pursuit of a selfish goal and may not even realise what he's lost. Whew. On a more... lighthearted note, the divorce jokes are fucking hilarious; they absolutely do exude divorcee energy, and it's great.

What makes me happy about them: The idea of them getting brunch with Simon and being funky and evil.

What makes me sad about them: I was going to say more about the inherent tragedy of being Jonah Magnus, but then I remembered that Peter died due to Elias's plans, so that.

Elias: Oh, no, my selfishness and hubris mean that I will never again have meaningful connections with others; I am so miserable.

Peter, who literally just died: I'm begging you to think for two seconds and realise which one of us is having the worse day.

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: Hmm, I'm not a fan of Mordechai!Peter, especially since it was jossed.

Things I look for in a fanfic: Good characterisation (I'm quite picky about that) and either humour, angst, or both.

My kinks: I have read only a handful of E-rated Lonelyeyes fics, so a larger sample size is needed. 😔

Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Both Jonelias and Jonpeter are very good.

My happily ever after for them: Oh boy, I don't think they can have a happily ever after if that makes sense. Both the divorce jokes and more serious explorations of their relationship reflect a kind of instability in their dynamic that I find fascinating and inextricable from the ship. I believe they can be happy together, but not ever after.

Jon

How I feel about this character: Jon! My boy! The only alive main character I care about besides the obvious one! I love him; I love to project onto him.

All the people I ship romantically with this character: Ohh, man. In no particular order: Elias, Peter, Michael, Gerry, Sasha, Georgie, Melanie, Tim, and Oliver. I do think some of these work better as friendships, but I have some level of investment in all of these characters as romantic partners for him.

My non-romantic OTP for them: Jon and the Admiral :pleading:

My unpopular opinion about this character: I don't think this one is that unpopular, but it's the closest thing to an unpopular Jon opinion I have: he should go apeshit on everyone who blamed and condemned him during season four, and also on Martin for being insensitive during act two of season five.

One thing I wished happened/had happened with this character in canon: I wish they hadn't gone for canon requited J*nmartin. I believe they work better as friends, and it rubs me the wrong way that it seemed like they were setting it up for Jon to love Martin as a projection of his humanity and as his last original assistant instead of as a partner, only for this angle to never be addressed. Disclaimer: I'm not saying it's wrong to enjoy their relationship; those are just my thoughts. I would have liked to see, at least, some sort of coworkers to lovers to friends arc (because yes, I think they skipped over the "friends" stage and went straight from coworkers to lovers). Actually, this is my unpopular Jon opinion.

My OTP: Hng. Jonelias.

My OT3: Jontimsasha <3

[earlgraytay]

You have side character vibes of the "wise master of craft who gives the protagonist advice on their mission" variety

Thank you!