I acknowledge that the season was cut almost in half so I should really cut them some slack but I WON'T, SO:
Plot holes/Forgotten Stuff in TUA:
(some of these are mostly just unanswered questions)
-Sloane?? Where tf did she go?
-Why was Jennifer (in the original timeline) in a cage? In Moldova?? Like, was she discovered to have something ( the dimaldo stuff whatever) inside of her, so they wanted to test on her? if she never came into contact with marigold before ben then why would they? WHAT
-also wait how the fuck did she get that stuff in her anyway? How did the dimaldo get to earth after it caused the end of Reginald's home planet? Like,,,shouldnt we know that?
-Her,,,in a squid??? she was Inside a giant squid? W h a t
-the S3 post credits of ben in the train. sure, whatever, that means nothing LMAOO
-I also can't get over - Five explaining "oh yeah when we do this EVERY ALTERNATE TIMELINE is gonna be destroyed, leaving only what should've been - the original," and lila fighitng to put her family in the train station,,,All the other timelines will be destroyed??They're dying and being reborn/reincarnated in the new one anyway GIRL WHAT ARE YOU DOING
(unless ive highly misunderstood that which is likely)
-this isnt a plot hole just - five "trying desperately over and over again to save his unhelpful family who he loves very very much" being literally turned into,,,that. did someone say character assassination?
-lila and five. thats a plot hole in and of itself I DONT CARE if he's aged 12 years from season 3, (6 yr timeskip at beginning of season, then 6 technically 7 in teh train), I DONT CARE IF HES 25 NOW, I DONT CARE IF HES MENTALLY 60 SOMETHING. Lila met and spent time with him when he looked like THIS
THATS A CHILD. and clearly, the family had SOME contact in the 6 yr skip, so she WATCHED HIM GROW UP from 13 - 19, like thats just so WEIRD WHAT
this was supposed to be plot holes and just turned into me being pissed im sorry but HOW DO YOU FUCK UP AN ENDING THIS BAD??
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Will donating his dnd stuff at the end of season 3 was a more on the nose metaphor than I thought.
[Context: dnd = their relationship. The goodbye scene itself, the rain fight, and their overall conflict all point to this.]
So, Will walks into the room and gives their relationship away right in front of Mike. Mike panics for a second, confused: “woah, dude, that’s the donation box”. Will doesn’t bat an eye. Instead he tells Mike that the ball is in his court: “we can just use yours…if we still want to play”. Basically, we can be us if you want us to be. Then Mike asks if he’ll move on from him. Will says that isn’t possible, and he walks away. Both of them are smiling, happy.
Then we get to season 4…
Will doesn’t move on, doesn’t join another party. But… Mike doesn’t make any moves. He doesn’t reach out to Will. That’s the core of their miscommunication. Will thought they agreed that Will wouldn’t replace him, and Mike would prove that he wanted to stay with him. He gave the ball to Mike expecting him to do something with it, and then nothing happened.
Why? Because El lied to Mike, he thought Will didn’t uphold his end of the bargain. He thought Will got new friends and was super happy in Lenora and their goodbye meant nothing to him. Mike was jealous of these imaginary people and upset at Will for lying to him in their goodbye.
Mike and Will spend season 4 unraveling the above miscommunication (that was set up in their s3 goodbye scene). You’d think that’d be the end of it. Mike and Will’s relationship has finally been restored and they can be best friends again. But then…
At the end of season 4, Will donates his love for Mike, again. They just made it more literal. Season 4 was just Will giving up his initiative in the relationship because of everything that happened in season 3. Now, a new, mature Will quite literally donates his side of their relationship to El. He gives away his love and his painting.
If Mike and Will were supposed to just be best friends, they wouldn’t have reintroduced that conflict in a more serious way. Season 4 would’ve been the end of it. It’s just like how Mike and El had ‘silly fights, stupid fights’ in season 3 that were reintroduce in season 4 in a more serious way. For Mike and El that was meant to deconstruct their romantic relationship. For Mike and Will, this conflict reintroduction is meant to construct their romantic relationship.
The plotline is different this time, though. They flipped it on it’s head. Now, Will is the one lying to Mike, not El. This time, Mike’ll be forced to realize that Will put words in El’s mouth in the same way El did for Will in her letters.
El’s lie caused Mike to ignore Will, destroying their relationship. In the end, he restablishes their relationship. Will’s lie caused Mike to “confess his love” to El, restoring their relationship. In the end, Mike… stays with El?
The painting lie is set up to be unraveled in season 5. Mike’s reaction to this lie is important and it changes something. Otherwise, the painting wouldn’t exist.
But, yeah, they’re definitely writing a slow burn rejection…
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I rarely make tumblr posts, but I am so infuriated by this situation I need to say something about it.
Five Hargreeves, who spent 45 years alone in a post-apocalyptic world, and every single moment of his life since was spent trying to get back to his family. The Five who ran himself dry for 2 weeks straight trying to stop the end of the world, and reunite his family. The Five who slaughtered an entire board of directors just to ensure him family's safety. Who turned back time himself, while bleeding out on the floor, just to save his siblings. You're telling me, that the Five whose entire motivation for living was once saving his family, is the same Five, who in s4 has entirely given up, and in the Subway is the one trying to convince Lila to stop looking after 6 and a half years? The Five who never once stopped trying to return to his family in all 45 years of surviving alone, decides to settle down in a greenhouse and live out a cottagecore life?
Furthermore, the same Five who told Lila that Diego loved her, who reassured his brother that his wife wasn't cheating on him and loved him dearly, the same Five who got on with Lila only due to the fact that they both cared for and loved Diego, the person they had in common, is the same Five who stole his brother's wife, whom he had three children with, just because the writers were excited that Aidan Gallagher was finally legal?
Five who hated authority, who despised when people gave him commands, who wanted nothing more than to retire in s3, is now working for the CIA and willingly calling his boss, 'sir'?
Five who used to be so paranoid and suspicious of everyone and everything, who used to solve problems alone and came to epiphanies that saved the world, who didn't even trust a past version of himself, also didn't realise that his boss of many years had an umbrella tattooed on his wrist?
Everything that once stood out about his character is now gone, as if the writers themselves entirely forgot about his existence until the last moment, and added him in as an afterthought, without thinking of the effect he would have on the story.
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I honestly think that Joanne had it the worst (psychologically) during the midnight tea party.
Imagine being bullied and isolated for a year, because someone fabricated an entire web of lies about you due to you getting a tiny bit of positive attention. The truth about the situation finally comes to light, you get your (very demanding) dream job, are well liked among your peers and are finally included within the schools society.
And then within one night you:
-discover your comfort teacher and your first friend are not real and are actually private investigators
-find out your boss who is supposed to be your role model and protector is a murderer
-realize that the principal has been on vacation for a year and was replaced by THE FUCKING GRIM REAPER
-learn that the vice principal is DEAD (and was subjected to human experimentation)
-learn that you're the second replacement for a guy who got brutally murdered and ALSO subjected to human experimentation (which you are witnessing right Infront of your eyes in real time)
-literally hear why and how these humans have been experimented on
-see how someone gets turned into dinner
-almost get turned into dinner yourself and can't escape on time because your body shut down out of shock.
-see how your "friend" is hunted for sport by the grim reaper.
-also see your "comfort teacher" crush someone's head right Infront of you.
-become unconscious out of shock.
-loose not only your boss, two friends (Soma and Ciel )and comfort teacher after this whole fiasco, but also your entire network of coworkers because they got a promotion you're too young to have.
-on top of that YOU CANNOT talk about what happened to you to anyone because you were sworn to secrecy and you can't really talk about it privately to your former colleagues either, since they're now a completely different rank than you.
Like- the guy didn't get physically injured, but he was the only real student to witness the entire Midnight tea party, because he couldn't escape on time. (And let's also not forget that he's the youngest of the real students present at the party and definitely the most sensitive one).
Since the Midnight tea party will happen again, Joanne and his former coworkers are probably forced to attend again since they can't really publicly share the reason as to why they don't want to go.
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