#im only on season 6 please no spoilers 😭
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jinxdcowboy · 6 months ago
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house md self insert and dr allison cameron … teehee :3c
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n1blakelover · 8 months ago
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literally clawing at the ground trying to find anything being released about tdp season 6 but no one has posted anything yet 😭
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thebluestberries · 2 months ago
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people called this show cringe for so long wtf this is fire, if this is cringe then what the fuck is based???
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congratsloserr · 29 days ago
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obx s4 spoilers and my 5 opinions no one asked for ahead:
okay so I have zero friends and I can’t keep talking to my sister about obx anymore or i’ll be talking her ears completely off so here are my unwanted opinions😭
1.) i’m actually enjoying this season more than s3. I genuinely can’t even go back and watch s3 bc everyone is so off and awkward. you can literally feel the tension through the screen. but in this season everything is wayyy better like it feels almost like s1 again again to me personally.
2.) idk if im feeling luke not being jj dad storyline…like it would make way more sense if luke was his uncle or way older brother or something but he was literally getting abused for no reason at all. Also it would have been better if in s3 luke would have said “im not your real dad jj” then left because tbh I forgot all about him until jj found him at that guys house😭. then jj getting the letter and finding luke would have been more intense. also I hated the part where luke was like “well isn’t it obvious?” like no?? not at all actually😭 even rudy said he was confused by this LMAO like it doesn’t make any sense to mess with jj’s character now when it’s about to end.
anyways my fault for the rant but I hope that makes sense like overall I just hate that luke abused jj for no reason but also the fact of how random it is. like i’ve seen almost everyone’s theory on how we did get hints throughout the show but none of them are adding up.
3.) this one is more for the fandom rather than the show. so as yall may or may not know im in love with rafe just as much as everyone else BUTTT I will not excuse all the shit he has done. everyone is making excuses and is mad at sarah for not speaking to him but are completely forgetting that he would their lives a living hell.
not only has he tried to kill sarah 3-4 times but has beat up pope what 3-4 times as well, beat up jj, killed peterkin, framed john b, stole and melted the cross. oh also tried to kill his dad I forgot about that.
like he’s not some saint because he’s hot, the reason why sarah won’t speak to him (or why all the pogues are scared of him) is all HIS fault and no one else’s (ward is part of the problem but in the end of the day he’s been grown since the start of season these were/are his own decisions)
yall are treating him as if he can do no wrong. he needs to truly prove himself to sarah if he wants his family back because his actions are unacceptable. like yall pitying him because he’s sadly looking at her at beach and their pictures together like please.. it’s laughable how yall just forgetting how insane he was.
4.) on a better note for rafe, im actually really loving him and sofia together but im not sure how long it will last. she’s obviously making a difference in his life and he’s listening to her BUT she did go behind his back about that deal. now im wondering if she will tell him and they “break up” (he said they are just hooking up) or she goes through with it anyways because she did go back on her word after he signed the paper.
anyways back to sofia and rafe’s relationship, I think I love it because all of you writers on here got him so accurate it’s scary like yall got him down to the T😭
5.) if this is the last season I really hope they end it correctly and not abruptly or in any way that doesn’t give obx justice. like I don’t want it to be as rushed as it’s already been this season. I don’t even know how they’d end it like it’s not some story you can just end tbh😭 I just want everyone happy, they’ve all gone through so much.
6.) my fault one more I thought of is the rumor… I swear if jj dies because of this stupid ass curse im canceling my subscription like immediately.
alrighty guys I hope yall enjoyed my ted talk that again no one asked for. feel free to comment on any of my opinions but also remember im just a girl like please chill on me✋🏽🫶🏽
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annikasevenshots · 2 years ago
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Star Trek Picard: Season 3 Episode 6 Reaction (spoilers!)
OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD
THE SHRIKE???????????
Vadic!!!
"UNITY AGAIN" IDK YALL SOUNDS PRETTY BORG TO ME
72 HOURS FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON TO HAPPEN?????
awwww jack's parents parenting 🥺
TERMINAL DIAGNOSIS?????????? EXCUSE ME?????????????? GOODBYE
IRUMONIC SYNDROME? GOODBYE I WANT TO LAUNCH MYSELF IN THE SUN
"please don't spend time burdening yourself when you can unburden him"
"I don't suppose you have any of my size" JACK STOP BEING SO FUNNYYYYY
HANSWTHEYRE HERE
THEYRE HERE THEYRE HERE
REUNION DAY REUNION DAY REUNION DAY REUNION DAY REUNION DAY
THERE SHE IS!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S MY GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG SEVEN IS ACTUALLY SMILEY I WANT TO DIE
awww bev hugging worf 🥺
lmao everyone hating on picard's wine 😭😭😭
"hey, you" I SCREECHED OUT LOUD OH MY GOD
HEY YOU
OH MY GOD I THINK I JUST UNLOCKED A NEW CORE MEMORY
EVERYONE IM ACTUALLY CRYING SO HARD
THEY TALKED TO EACH OTHER
"One that adapts" IM THINKING IM THINKING
SEVEN SMILING BEING LIKE IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN
OHHHHH NY GOD SHSHSHABHASUHA
EZCHSE ME DHSIJshsjskshhshdhd
"it's good to be seen" FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
"i have gone into battle with lovers countless times" WORF OH MY GOD
THEY ARE KILLING ME
sorry passed out for a bit. Sec31?????????
"James T Kirk"????
ATTACK TRIBBLE HAHAHHA THEYRE SO FUNNY SOMETIMES
RAVEN
THAT IS A RAVEN
RAVEN
WE BEEN KNEW HOLY FUCK
"Like from my nightmares" ALSO FROM SEVENS NIGHTMARES
Moriarty's theme!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the worst use of "I think therefore I am", signed, a philosophy
SEVEN BEING HERE BEFORE!!!!!!!
We will see the Voyager?????????
Sidney La Forge being "uhhhh dont answer the call from my dad"
MORE HUGS <3 <3 <3
HEY SIS 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
i love this sister duo already
Oh Sidney 🥺
"Turn fatherhood into an intergalactic incident" LAUGHING
Why is Alandra his PA lowkey
THE SHIPS TALK TO EACH OTHER? SOUNDS VERY B-WORD TO ME
RAFFI USING SEVEN'S PHASER YAYYYYYYYYYYY
OMG POP GOES THE WEASEL
someone called it on tumblr!!!!!!!!!
Oh Raffi is so pretty
LORE.
alandra!!!! alandra trying to help!!!!!!!!!
Oh so alandra is the fave
SEVEN KNOWS.
Seven being "off :/" when Jack tries out the captain chair 😂😂😂
She hasn't been here for so long only for a pasty white man to take her place 😂
Defiant
OH THEYRE EDGING US
OMG THE MUSIC SHUT THE FUCK UP
OH SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN IS GOING TO BRING US TO
TURNING THIS ONE UP
THE VOYAGER. HELLO
THE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE VOYAGER THEME
I WAS REBORN THERE HER CREW WERE MY FAMILY
THE VOYAGER THEME GOING INTO THE FAMILY THEME ARE YOU KIDDING ME IM ACTUALLY GOING TO LAUNCH MYSELF IN THE SUN
SEVEN BEING SMILEY AND LAUGHEY KILLING MYSELF
oh the music this episode.
the family theme again!!! when laforge talks about sidney!!!!!!
"Not the way I fear for hers" oh Sidney 🥺🥺🥺
SEVEN DID A SPINNY I SEE YOUUUUUUUUUU
SIDNEY IS MAKING ME CRY
why is shaw just like sleeping lmaooooooo why is he never ever around
Awwww the next next generation making friends 🥺
hahahahaha shaw being a fanboy!!!!!!
OMFG "Jack" "Sidney" 💀
THEY ARE SETTING THEM UP SO HARDDDDDDD
"Stay away from my daughter" PLEASEEEE
"Tell your mom we won't be home for dinner" awwww
RIKER NO!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Worf's theme
OH MY GOD DAFORGE LIVES
bring my boi homeeeeeeee oh will riker 🥺
"Why do you think i crashed so many speeders as a kid? So i can spend time with you fixing them" crying so hard
sidney i love you so so much you can do no wrong
data seeing geordi first out of everyone!!!!!!! daforge crumbs!!!!!!!!
CHANGELINGS STOLE PICARDS BODY???????? THEY ARE SO UNSERIOUS RN
SHRIKE. RIKER.
VADIC GOING HI HAHAHAHAHA
Deanna??????????????
In conclusion,
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self-spaghettification · 1 year ago
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rb as this is my pinned post, (despite rebrand) here’s a
preface to my blog
hellooo i’m riley :) they/he, young adult, adhd, pan+nb, & my side / general stuff blog is @freefloatingtemporally , dm for nsfw tdp acct
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My page WILL have TDP spoilers and they WILL NOT always be tagged (bc I don’t catch everything/don’t have the time for that tbh) additionally i will be posting tdp criticism sometimes, post s6, but it also will usually be tagged
about me
eensy teensy op lore rant: i am a programmer but i also have a variety of hobbies and bounce between them like a ping pong ball. im adhd, nonbinary, pansexual, and ace-spectrum. my username came from this, i’m not too shy about sharing info about myself. and i’ve been in fandom & drawing since 2016 :)
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i’ve been in the fandom since may 2023, although i’ve been casually watching the show since season 1 came out.
i’ve only watched the show like 3 times total except for, mainly, the aaravos scenes (look don’t @ me HFJSKJFDSK) or for screencap reasons aaand i haven’t read through much of the bonus content </3 [puzzle house, tox, etc…. though i believe i do know most of the important bits :) ]
i'm kinda lazy and am a slow reader buuut i do like making fic, meta, code, art, uhh probably whatever you can think of i'm down to make it. actually, i'm not super familiar with 3d art. so. not that. rip
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boundaries:
be an interesting person worth talking to I guess
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vyvesvi · 11 months ago
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wow okay last one before the finale...live reacting to the twitter thread
ep 10 -⚠️ ELIMINATION SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT ⚠️
as soon as i saw haruka 19...it's over isn't it
suzu 14...saw that coming oops
SAKAGUCHI RINO TWELVE WE ARE SOOOOO BACK OMG
keiko dropping to 11 ou was just getting used to her too
iida shizuku...10...people who are keeping up with japanese fans saw this coming but i for one did not! can i have justice for MY nugu picks pretty please?
kokoro 8...i must admit i giggled
kokona gets the award for most stable rank lol
praying it's ran & momona for 1&2 i think either of them would be great honestly (altho ran is my girlie ofc)
tsuzumi SAFE! (duh)
need tsukushi to sneak in real bad this is all so unfairr
ayane 5th queen we love you
actually holy shit rinon hasn't been called yet.......or joa (maybe her push was too obvious)......
it's time to say goodbye to sakura, serina, tsukushi, mena, kokona 1, probably yui............
woahhhhhh rinon top 4 😭 girlie is DEBUTING
i think 1 momona 2 ran 3 rinon 4 miu maybe
and ran & rinon are top 4 without benefits who else smiled 😁
ran 4th oh....but without benefits!
rinon 3rd slay
theyre 81,000 votes apart oh dear...ran centerism was fun while it lasted
i wonder if any keiko fans switched to rinon
exoecting suzu to rise in the finale but idk how high...her & kokoro fans r abt to panic vote especially hard i think
wait holy shit.
holy shit.
WHERE ARE NAGOMI AND HINA??????????
yui ill miss you so bad go to mdh queen
okay momona #1 as expected
wild
hina's not even a candidate for 20............
joa/serina/kagura/nagomi...this is terrible
dpmo. (they pissed me off)
this is fucked with my luck she'll be 11th in the finale good lord
i dont dislike all of the ppl im abt to mention but how do haruka kagura and rio keep sneaking in. haruka is cute and clearly has a crazy one pick but over hina & nagomi is CRAZY. rio literally hasn't said a word all season like i know absolutely nothing abt her even tho she's top 20 & i make it my business to learn abt every single contestant like
anyways this is current top 11
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i have very few thoughts. im scared rino's one pick might not be strong enough but im praying for a sukai/keigo story. i wouldn't care if 2.5 people here dropped honestly. it's a shame nano had a scandal bc i would've liked a slightly more mature direction for this group and now it probably wont happen.
i expect shizuku to drop & maaaaybe rin too but we'll see. everyone else is pretty solid though.
ou the finale airs 9pm friday the 15th for me...expecting no ep on thursday or a recap ep maybe?
just waiting for the ranks of the other 15 and then ill finally go to sleep
oh the finale songs (sozo ijo & choppy choppy)
rino wanted subvocal 2 for sozo but rin moved her to rapper 2...dpmo
kokoro subvocal 2 for choppy...ik the top girls r afraid of angering kokoro stans but cmon this cant be...
momoka we love you but you didn't pick smart...but then again itd always be a what if if she didn't put her #1 choice
ran rap #1 on choppy is funny
wonder if someome will move ayane to main vocal
miu immediately did exactly that only for momona to make ayane sub vocal 6 on the other song..........oh uhm. girl you know you have to debut together right 😭
it doesn't matter anymore i suppose but ayane stans are gonna hold this grudge for a bit
rinon didn't have to move keiko imo but we move
well this was a mess. part of the reason rino has been struggling is bc she started out focusing on rap when she's a great vocalist. and now she's rapping in the finale. it doesn't matter that much at all but damn
thelma is very cute :( we needed sugai hidenori here too tho i miss his passion and unique vocal techniques
yumeki crying lmfao...
ranks finally out
SERINA 21??????? 21???????? SHE WAS SO CLOSE AND NEARLY DEFEATED THE EVIL OMG........
joa 22, nagomi 23, hina 26...no one saw that coming idc what anyone says
i think joa's push was too obvious with run run
ayano 24, sakura 28, yui 25, tsukushi 27...all such a shame
i think yoshida hana (30) will get scouted though 🙏
i was so convinced mena was gonna be big during preshow...all for 31.
the rest is pretty expected honestly, i think kokona's eye contact battle got her this far which is hilarious bc that's totally what made me pay attention to her
in conclusion im sick to my stomach goodnight everyone
pd 101 japan picks & commentary (3)
preshow & ep 1
ep 2 - ep 5
ep 6 general commentary
this ep was kind of lowkey. not really sure how i feel about the team selection being entirely determined by rank - pretty sad that karen & momoka, amongst others, probably wont get to show their actual main abilities
the teams that performed were hero, shine a light, wa da da, & run run. ranking: run run > hero ≥ wa da da > shine a light. i don't really like the song choices (songs that already have choreo for a dance round, only one non-idol dance song, plus the singers/producers for that song helped arrange all of the vocal performances? makes me wonder if the final group will be getting a LAS song) but at least theyre all in japanese this time (for the vocal & rap groups at least)
run run: good performance but i have a few gripes. 1 - why was it worth more points? they said that the choreo was harder but the whole mission was for the girls to create choreo so... i dont actually expect that the trainees on these shows are doing all the arranging and writing and choreography themselves (much less on pd japan where virtually no one has a trainee background) but the whole set up of the mission kind of says the quiet part loud, you know? 2 - the distribution was a complete mess. loved joa as the center but the rest were basically backup dancers...for a choreo that theyre ostensibly creating themselves the difference in screentime between each person just doesnt make sense. and that was reflected in all of the ranks apart from yuuki & yurara i think. storyline: i found the koto/yuki storyline pretty meh. joa did actually do better than both of them so...? still, in another series this wouldve had a massive conflict edit & im glad pdj doesn't really do that. sad mitsuki & serina didn't get much screentime, i think mitsuki should've gone for antifragile actually, she needed to be on a team where the styling would've worked with her & allowed her to show more of a charming side on stage (friend that i watched LOVED her in cheer up, made me pause to figure out who the "gorgeous regina george lookalike" was.)
hero: ando yui is my daughter but i have to admit that she has a tendency towards shouting some notes. still, i feel like she has a ton of potential and im glad that she got to redeem herself after the audition. tsuzumi is basically in and she 100% knows it, so it's interesting to see how she's dealing with it. more than anyone else in the top it seems to really be impacting her, but she also seems to have a lot of close friends on the show who understand & are supporting her. to be honest, i usually don't like contestants like mayu but...idk. i see a lot in her but im not sure why. it seems like voters are starting to get serious so her rank has dropped a lot but i i'll miss her when she's eliminated. i hope there's some opportunity for her beyond the show.
wa da da: kind of sick that no one chose wa da da 😭 the stage was pretty messy in my opinion but mana did great, she's such a performer. personally ranka isnt one of my picks but i like her intensity a lot & she definitely deserved her rank. i don't think this is her moment exactly but i could see her being recruited somewhere after this. she would suit a kind of dramatic vibe. karen is interesting to me because while she doesn't dance well i found that she really fit the stage. i also love her attitude. there's no way she won't rise but im not sure that itll be enough. last and least,
shine a light: im a big jo1 fan but i knew this wasn't gonna go great from the outset. the energy of the original song is part of what makes it so good so the fact that they removed that.....i also think it's kind of notable that hina said that she didn't want it to be a ballad and was kind of steamrolled........anyways. we saw the performance. i've always said that i wanted hazuki to get more screentime & establish herself and this was her chance but...rip. from the second her voice cracked it was over for the whole team. every single person messed up except for hina. i know that this wasn't a super strong vocal group but it's so sad that they did the worse they've ever done on stage. i expect hina's rank to continue to rise, and hazuki in particular will fall (not because she was the worse but because she has the smallest fanbase & isnt insulated from mistakes like some of the top contestants). curious about what will happen with chiharu because honestly...no one really expected her to sing super well and she was gorgeous so. we'll see
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change is always possible but this is my stable top 4. rino & ran's teams weren't in this episode but it's a very good sign that rino still got screentime singing well & being a good leader. not thrilled that her rank dropped (14 → 17) and there are a lot of strong contenders in the early teens right now. in truth, i think some of them would be a much better fit for a spin off project (which have much higher success rates than the ones from korean produce) & rino would make more sense in top 11 but that's neither here nor there.
mana, as i said earlier did sooooo well in wadada, although im curious as to what she would've picked had she been given a real choice. im hoping her rank will rise - she didn't get a push in this ep but she was significantly more visible than a lot of her teammates so fingers crossed.
serina is just a good [potential] idol. i was surprised that she went for dance since her vocals are what i noticed first but she pulled off run run well. i wouldve picked shine a light or even antifragile for her though. unfortunately she got very little screentime & storyline but i'm sure run run will win so maybe that 20k will help maintain her spot.
standouts in this ep
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not gonna break it down again but yeah. love the girlies love the vibes
other thoughts
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call me crazy but im so so sure that these three will be recruited by lapone for a gg after the show. with the top 11 having skewing less cute im hoping that this becomes a reality bc these three fit eachother more than they fit momona/nano/ran/rin/etc. oda aruha (and maybe moro anon) would be here too but alas.
people i'd like to have seen in this ep
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rin is riding a wave right now and she needs momentum to stay top 11. looking at the ranks now, kokona dropped 10 places (19 → 29) 🙃 rinon & ayano are fine, but i wanted to see them keep momentum as well. i like akiyama ema for some reason but to survive she desperately needs screentime and a good performance. I'm even more worried about tsukushi - her dropping from 18th to 31st after doing incredibly well is kind of insane. what i've said about tsukushi needing a storyline in the past still stands. i can already tell that her part in bijin will be great but with rinon & keiko im not sure what her screentime potential is.
ep 6 voting list
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no surprises here, although im not sure what the voting has been reduced to? if it's only 5 i'd have to go with mana, rino, rin, serina, and then alternate kokona, yui, and mayu. i know that the "this person is safe so i wont vote for them" logic is flawed but i can't help it. good thing intl fans cant vote so this isn't a real concern! 🤪 /s
ep 6 semi-realistic top 11
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only change is that i replaced kokona with joa. i have to say, im not thrilled about how many "givens" there are this season. it's not that i dislike them but it makes for a kind of boring top 11, at least until we get to 1 & 2 pick voting. rin was a nice surprise but i think the production has been pretty mask off about their picks. interestingly, i think it might bite them in the butt that momona & kokoro in particular don't actually get that much screentime. for people who are seeing them through the show for the first time (and also dont keep up with twitter discourse) probably feel that their ranks came out of nowhere. ran has gotten good screentime but she's definitely also buoyed by her original fanbase. miu, joa, & tsuzumi have good screentime & storylines so when joa goes up to top 11 i won't be surprised. rin had a good storyline so she makes sense. ayane doesn't get very much screentime but her voice does the brunt of the work. nano is a (capable) visual pick but she doesn't have a storyline. suzu has had a fanbase since the theme song but i expect her to fall a little honestly. we'll see. keiko is new to the top 11 this ep, i hope they reveal the actual ranks this time because that will influence my thoughts. keiko has great screentime and a litle bit of storyline so her rising makes sense. kokona is interesting to me because her rank is so stable based on not very much honestly. i don't dislike her but her lack of expressiveness on stage is probably something they'll try to build a storyline out of later.
i have a lot of confidence that rino will debut elsewhere after this but in the interest of creating a group i would actually like...
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