#im on my myth shit again

[bigfan-fanfic]

I’m so tired of seeing the Medusa victims post. She was literally just born like that. In the original mythology she and her sisters were born with snake hair. And Medusa with the power to turn people to stone. Can you please write a story about the original version of the myth?

TL;DR: The Gorgons evolved over time, starting as three sisters with serpents for hair and pertifying eyes, and monsters, before Ovid wrote that it was just Medusa, a beautiful woman who was turned into a monster.

So, myths are... funky. We can't really call any one version the definitive original because we can't really tell when they were made up, you know? However, we can look at the origins and history of a myth to see how it evolved over time.

At the earliest, the proto-Gorgon was a snakelike, boarlike, winged creature that showed up in the iconography of the temples of oracles, suggesting some kind of protective theme. It wasn't until later in the game that the Gorgons became multiple specific individuals. In fact, around this time the Gorgon is described as one of the many children of Echidna, mother of monsters, birthed to help in the Titanomachy and was slain by Athena.

Homer refers to a Gorgon whose head adorns Athena's aegis and is a creature of the Underworld. It isn't until Hesiod that the Gorgons are individualized and recharacterized as monsters of the sea, and they become three sisters.

So here, Medusa (aka Gorgo) and her sisters Euryale and Stheno were daughters of Phorcys and Ceto (a primal sea god born of Gaia and Pontus, and his daughter/consort/baby mama), who basically went around birthing all the sea monsters. Eventually the main conceit is locked down - three sisters, all of whom have snaky hairdos and petrifying peepers, but Stheno and Euryale are immortal, Medusa mortal. Weird, but maybe that's why she's the one of the three that got singled out for Perseus, since she's the only one that coukd actually be killed. Who knows?

It is about the time of Roman poet Ovid (of Metamorphoses fame and basically the writing that everyone in classical art looked to for their depictions) that the myth again evolves. Ovid drops Stheno and Euryale and just keeps Medusa, who explains the origins of by claiming it was Athena/Minerva who turned her hair to snakes after she and Poseidon/Neptune copulated in her temple (not even getting into the consensuality of it all, because the ancient Greeks didn't really give much of a fuck about that anyway). But, considering that most of the stories that portray Athena as not a very, shall we say, wise, wisdom god come from Ovid, who knows, really?

So we have Medusa the monstrous daughter of monsters, the mortal one amongst her sisters. Basically just another monster living her life and stone-atizing any heroes coming along to slay her until Perseus comes along with a crafty new strat.

Or we have Medusa the cursed woman lashing out and Perseus killing her.

Theoretically, if you wanted to sort of combine all these separate versions into one condensed version, it could be that all three sisters were immortal monsters, and Poseidon just ended up doin it with Medusa (which produces Pegasus and Chrysaor), and maybe Athena got mad that it was in her temple, or their watery affinity gave Athens some kind of flood. Or maybe the sisters Gorgons were killing too many heroes. Either way, Athena curses Medusa and makes her mortal, and eventually helps Perseus slay a monster and gets a cool new shield for herself with a stonifying face on it.

So, not really certain about how to write an actual story, but here's a look into the most basic of basics, and perhaps that'll encourage you to do your own research, since I'm just a lil guy who likes myths and not, you know, an antiquities scholar or professor/reliable source!

[rebornofstars]

nobody fucking touch me rn i went to see tf one in the cinema and im shaking. they actually made a good transformers movie. what the fuck

[impossible-rat-babies]

puppets bunker and ddos attacks have never been so much fun

[clocktowerlodger]

Elric thoughts update under the cut. First one's here if you wanna read it

Happy that Dyvim Tvar did end up making another appearance in The Stealer of Souls (alongside rather than against Elric which was nice), though his death was kinda disappointing. At least he didn't die to stormbringer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also cool of Dyvim Slorm to show up for The Flame Bringers with a Phoorn rider squad. Didn't really expect any of Elric's surviving kin to be willing to wake the dragons for him (or anything really). I could do with more Melnibonéans popping up (as messed up as they are lol).

And I gotta say, I dig whenever the dragons/Phoorn show up. As a (heavily) biased Dragonriders of Pern fan, I think it'd be neat if there were a few stories where they feature prominently alongside Elric instead of the more minor/tail-end appearances I've read so far. Elric being able to enjoy his culture/heritage while being able to temporarily forget his pain is nice and dragons are hella cool. I think The Citadel Of Forgotten Myths collection might have more to do with that but I haven't gotten too far into it yet.

To Rescue Tanelorn was interesting as well. Elric stories sans Elric himself. I'm not sure if there's more, but I definitely wouldn't mind reading more stories about the companions/side characters. The only downside is that they tend to die a lot... so I don't imagine there would be many more stories like this. Also I'm gonna be so sad if Moonglum dies. He's gotta live, right? Consistent companion numero uno can't die, surely. The friend without a reason, the friend without a cause.

Speaking of dying, I wish the bird of gold and silver got to stick around some more. I liked the idea of it and it's crash cymbal wings. Rip to it and Myshella. At least Theleb K'aarna is dead now.

[mythilas]

31. Myth

A long time ago, The Firstborn of the Sun grew greedy, coveting its light and hoarding it all for himself, plunging the world into permanent night. His twin sister, the Secondborn of the Sun, opposed him and his selfishness. The pair have struggled eternally through countless dawns and dusks, their equal strength never letting either fully triumph.

[currentlyonstandbi]

[discountalien-pancake]

Thank you so much to @lord-luci for helping me finish this corset, could not have done it without you! I can now finally start working on the Glass Gown, which conveniently happened to win the poll for what project y’all want to see next! The petticoat I’m making will be part of the ensemble.

[edgarallanpoestan]

sometimes i wonder why my social skills arent great then i remember that i read encyclopedias and textbooks for fun unti llike middle school and got really obsessed w random things and was only friends w people who also got easily obsessed w things and basically it shouldve been way obvious i was nd

[sunnibits]

love when my brain decides to latch onto a particular made-up scene of line or dialogue and then fucking repeat it over and over again in a loop while I’m trying to sleep. yknow sometimes it’s real sweet shit like hurt/comfort or soft romance but no tonight I just have agonized screaming echoing in my head for some reason. why am I like this.

[themesis]

hes finally fucking home babey!!!!

[kindred-spirit-93]

HOO BOI. i desperately want to write volumes about this topic alone but ill stick to a tag rant because is have so much studying lol.

demeter they could never make me hate you. you were imo the only sensible person in the myth(s) actually and a good mum. fuck u zeus

The story of Hades and Persephone isn't an abduction romance, or even a tragedy of not being able to be in two places at the same time. It's about how fucking wild it would be to have a mother who gives a shit about whether you're dead or alive, and whether you are happy.

[othercrossee]

No art until late September or sth

[snifferz]

what goes through ppls heads to ship real people together,, like genuinely im so weirded out

[strangestcase]

😐 human-fornow Follow

Heyyyyy shiftblr I am looking for safe and controllable shapeshifting methods, do you have any recs? I don’t mind painful transformations or unexpected results as long as Im not human anymore and doesn’t wear off easily

🧩 janushead

Go to madscienceresource.mon and check the potions tab, they have Hyde potion there. You doesn’t come down for the next 12 hours minimum unless you drink it again. The main issue is prolonged exposure makes it flare up or pass down genetically, but if what you want is not being human full stop then that won’t be an issue

😐 human-fornow Follow

Ahhh, k. It doesn’t have other side effects right? I’ve heard that it can be addictive.

🧩 janushead

No lol it is addictive because it’s got a shit ton of cocaine in it. You can always find cocaine-free recipes but they are fucking shit, they only give you a different hairstyle. Magic potions are also free of cocaine and the change hurts way less but they follow a lot of weird rules.

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It’s okay, I don’t mind weird rules. Another thing, does this potion give you post-shift mania?

🧩 janushead

Post-shift mania is a myth lol, it was made up by humans to make us Hydes look weird

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🧩 janushead

Ough when the post-shift mania hits

🧩 janushead

I need to crash my car into a lamp post

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Come on, man.

[beesmygod]

we can all look back on and laugh at this when im wrong, but it seems like social media in its current incarnation is dying an undignified and overdue death. it turns out throwing all of humanity into one room and expecting everyone to develop a single ethos was beyond insane conceptually and the artists who built their following on social media are probably in a tail spin right now. people jumping to bluesky are insane lol. did you forget jack dorsey is the idiot who got us into this mess in the first place. why would you choose to subject yourself to this shit again. for what purpose?

the stock answer i got was that "for discoverability/audience" and if that's true thats a problem. i've been hollerin about this to anyone who would listen prior to this but the customer base of twitter (and all social media) is its advertisers. they have not been shy from the start about that fact because its the only way they generate income, as far as i know. YOU (the user) are the product. YOU (still the user) are also what draws people to the site. there is not a social media website on earth that has figured out that making a good website (which would require hiring and paying for quality labor over an extended period of time) is more likely to result in economic success than exclusively courting the businesses whose interest is in making the website worse to use with ads. at no point were our interests ever a factor.

in fact, imo, the number of people following you is not an accurate representational sample of your audience. the reasonable assumption you should make is that the vast majority of numbers involved with any website (esp those with a vested interest in showing off big numbers to VC investors or advertising execs) are inflated or just outright fake. the numbers exist solely to drive you insane and make awful people happy. the numbers cause you and everyone around you to start spontaneously spawning myths about a beast called "the algorithm" that possesses the incredible traits of being both something you can game for success or blame for your failures. it coerces you into enacting out nonsense superstitions to try to counteract or appease it in the hopes of, let's be honest, breaking it big and going viral. this way, you, the creator, do not have to do the hard work of building up a rapport with an audience. none of this goes anything but adds more numbers for the ceos to look at and nod approvingly or disapprovingly at.

the people running the world today are, without exaggeration, cartoon villains. they are deeply stupid, devoid of empathy, and open about their intent to do deeply evil acts in order to further their economic interests. trying to derive some kind of financial benefit from the creations of these unapologetic losers was always bound to be a wasted effort. the best thing i can say about twitter, a website i was banned from countless times and returned to out of stubborn desire, was that i got to make some great jokes with friends and cause some chaos lol. letting people know i have a web comic was always a secondary function once the realization of what social media was turning out to be set in like 7 years ago. any artist who insists that you have to do this or that on this or that social media site is trying to drag you down into the quagmire of online numbers poisoning.

run away!!! children heed my advice!!! the joy of creation does not lie on a path that encourages you to cater to the lowest common denominators while casting your net. just fucking have fun with it. if its not fun then it wont even be fun to do financially anyway. and isnt that, like. the point.

[neechees]

https://www.tumblr.com/baconvonmoose/762184790376136704/thank-you-look-i-know-people-mean-well-i-do-im?source=share

Reading all this and that's the first time ever I've seen someone say this about W*nd***.

Thought to bring this to your attention

I've always said that you'll get differing opinions about the Ice Cannibal because different groups might have differing opinions & protocol on the spirit on who can or can't say it or when, and like I've always specified I prefer it when people dont say it around ME.

But I'm kind of suspicious about this random user coming and saying "well I'm Native American" because of the way they're speaking. They say they're "a subdivision of the Algonquin" like there's no "subdivision" of the Algonquin UNLESS they're claiming to be of the Algonquin TRIBE and trying to talk about their specific community, but they don't specify it, and they seem to be equating Algonquin with Algonquian (a Language FAMILY), which is something a lot of Moniyawak & pretendians do.

Also, there's no "my tribe told the first version of the wend!g0 myth" like they claim they are, because again, multiple tribes believe in this spirit, and it'd be stupid & unfair to try claim authority on it for "the first" because we don't know who was "the first".

This user also claims that "it's a spirit that can possess people so it can look like anyone you know", I've talked with other ndns about this and there's even some debate over whether this "possession" thing is even true, at least for some tribes, because settlers were using this excuse to go and execute multiple Native people under the premise that they were "possessed" by a cannibal spirit (and how often do you think White people back then gave a shit about our spiritualities?). In many tribes, including mine, I know the ice cannibal is a spirit that exists in its own right but that also humans can turn into one.

This person is just acting like a jackass and doesn't seem to hang around other actual Native Americans who believe in our religions, because of the way they're talking, but want to act like an authority on our spiritualites. They don't even want to acknowledge that maybe they heard the "we don't say it" variation because of different beliefs in different tribes. Them calling everything I just mentioned fucking "misinformation" is itself misinformation, and completely fucking unfair of them. And the ice cannibal spirit isn't even the only spirit we do this with. We don't just avoid saying its name out of fear, it's also out of respect and protocol.

I've also never seen this person on ndn tumblr, & they don't seem to have an "ndn" tag. This might be a case of a White person suddenly claiming Native heritage to get in on a conversation that isn't theirs to have. With the way they're acting, talking about Native spirituality, etc, this sounds more like a White person with maybe some Native ancestry who doesn't actually hang around other ndns just trying to be an authority on something they have no fucking clue on & that they got all their information from white websites, because virtually everything they said was wrong.