#im not starting another discussion
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nocturnal-phantoms-fandoms · 7 months ago
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ehh
Im so so tired of all the discussions around S & R sexualities.
Story time: when I first read the books I assumed everyone is straight bc I was a child raised catholic with no critical thinking skills (though, I could tell I didnt like r/t that much but I couldnt really tell why). Then, after entering the fandom and discovering r/s I was like, oh ok, S could be bi. R could also be bi. Then I became more inclined towards gay S. Some time passed, I rejoined the fandom on tumblr. I see more posts talking about r/t being comphet and bi S agenda, and im like, alright makes sense, R is gay, S is bi.
But now Ive come to the conclusion it doesnt matter to me, in fact, I dont want to have a set headcanon regarding their sexualities. Bc im just so tired of seeing all these metas with canon info as arguments for/against comphet, for/against reading them as bi vs gay - and like, the metas themselv are great of course. I love metas and I love people writing metas.
But at this point it doesnt matter to me who is assigned which label and why.
I see them both as queer - partially bc of the canon info from metas I mentioned, but partially just bc I ship them together - and it certainly doesnt matter to me if the author intended them to be read as queer or not (obviously she didnt?? why is this even still being brought up I though we were over this??). They are not queer coded (that requires authorial intention) and they can be read as queer - but reading a character as queer implies a reader reads a character as queer. Its an interpretation. And yes, considering all the context of the books, reading R as a gay man seems like the best interpretation, but its still an interpretation. That I agree with, obviously. But its still up to the specific fan.
One thing confuses me though. As someone who doesnt ship r/t* - from Watsonian perspective: R was basically pressured by molly since he initially never voiced interest in T and in fact seemed to avoid her; form Doylist��perspective: this was done with a great disservice towards T as a character - and generally agrees with all the context pointing towards R being read as queer man with AIDS / lycanthropy being read as a metaphor for HIV/AIDS - Why R cant be bi? I dont think he was into T - and Im not saying he was bi - but I dont see how thats an argument against him being bi in general?
But like I said. Idc at this point. They are both gay. And bi. And ace, while we are at it. Depending on a concept/storyline/fanfic I want to explore at this moment.
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*and this shouldn't be needed to be said, but, just to be safe: doesnt have a problem with r/t shippers. this ship isnt for me, thats it.
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lunalikestowriteanddraw · 1 month ago
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I want yall to know that it was technically Torbek’s entire character that made me realize what Kremy and Gideon’s character arcs are, and that they even had character arcs in the first place
And I have an actual explanation for this. I’m not just pulling this out of my ass here.
Torbek from the get-go is everything that Kremy and Gideon are not. He is honest (or as honest as he can be), kind, compassionate, morally decent (I’d say the goblinoids are the 2 party members with the highest morals), and is incredibly emotional (and forthright with said emotions).
Not to say that the husbands are incapable of being any of these things—in fact, Kremy and Gideon both have repeatedly shown signs of kindness and compassion, both to their friends and to strangers. But also…im not gonna sugarcoat it, they’re not good people. They steal, they destroy, they murder (and actively enjoy the murdering process—or at least Gid does), etc. Kremy’s whole character is built on lies (literally his part of the opening poem says “when turned to words, could only lie”), and Gideon is very emotionally stunted (I’ve made a separate post going into this fairly in-depth, so I’m not gonna get too into it here, but he clearly hides behind a mask of anger whenever he feels genuinely sad, nervous, frightened, etc).
Anyway, I didn’t realize that Kremy has been going through a sort of character arc regarding his lies until they met Pincushion, where Kremy tried lying and bullying his way into getting what he wants (and it not working), and Torbek tried being kind and truthful into getting what information they needed (and it working wonderfully).
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dykedvonte · 16 days ago
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I keep seeing fanarts of ppl's OC's being on the ship, so do you think that if there was 6st crewmember (specifically, another woman) Anya would've been more safe? Like, someone to actually call Jimmy's begaviour out, someone Anya might wanna trust? Is there a possibility something might have changed (even if a little) or it would not have mattered at all?
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I feel like the game would make it part of the commentary on where she would believe and help Anya but still be sort of dismissive? Like the whole “don’t waste time crying and being scared keep going and move on, don’t let him win”. It’s supposed to be positive and reinforcing but sometimes it does more damage in those times of mourning and grief, it feels patronizing, like you don’t understand what you’re going through but they do. Even if they did call out his behavior it’s still on Curly to act and while another voice would help, it’s still 4 against 2 on guys that don’t get it until they have to vs women who always have to.
I don’t mind mouthwashing OCs but I do get a bit bored as they tend to be borderline saviors or like Jimmy aligned. They are either more complicit than Curly or just Jimmy haters for no reason, outside of what the creators know about what he did to Anya. I am never irked by OCs but in a story like mouthwashing you really need to think about what your character adds to the commentary, especially if they are there during the crash. It’s nice to have like characters on Anya’s side more whole heartedly and interesting to see characters who placate Jimmy but sometimes it’s one note.
I can’t and don’t want to police peoples OCs it’s never my intention when I comment on trends I notice, but I do feel like the way people make their OCs interact with these two characters and especially Curly, really show a grave misunderstanding of the narrative and these characters as people vs roles in the story. Still, I know people just make up characters for fun and that’s fine. Great even, but I guys I’m focusing more on OCs that are supposed to have those serious dynamics. My favs tend to be pretty-Tulpar or post-Tulpar au OCs.
The inevitably of the crash is on Jimmy. He did that not because he wasn’t stopped but because all his means to kill Anya were taken. The gun, the axe. Even if Curly did strip him of his co-pilot privileges and try to keep him contained there’s only so many people. An extra body helps but they have jobs they have to do, he’s the only one steering the whole ship and Jimmy would likely have an out: food, bathroom, etc. He’s not new and if he couldn’t crash the ship directly, who’s to say he wouldn’t sabotage something else? A clunker like the Tulpar wouldn’t take much. An extra person helps but it’s just another thing that prolongs what a person like Jimmy is willing to do to shirk responsibility.
It’s more than just needing someone to stand up to him and think that’s what is missing when it comes to inserting a character into the mouthwashing setting.
#like again most people treat Jimmy like a misanthrope and he’s not and the way he’s just evil/rude to everyone all the time just isn’t real#like he’s snarky and rude but it can’t be 100% of the time like hes not going out his way to instigate#he’s the type to say shit and hope it stirs the pot like Daisuke likes him at first#thinks he’s a bit of a jerk but he likes him like unless you specifically make a character he’s dislike he’s not just gonna be#readily antagonistic to strangers or at the get go#not to mention it’s not just about Anya needing a friend but someone with the power to do something#a point in why she confides in Curly is he’s the captain she’s not just gonna tell the only other woman just because it’s still personal#not every girl tells their friend or another woman especially if they are new and they don’t know how they react not all girls are#girls girls some can be just as toxic as the men they are being confided in about#the nuance of the situation is not solved by having more people who actively hate jimmmy if anything it would make him escalate further as#clearly has issues with how people perceive him and being liked like another woman who hates him that’s gonna do something crazy in his mind#I think it’s interesting when OCs explore another side of the pre established dynamics as Jimmy uses each remaining crew member to fill a#something Curly provided for him and represent his dynamic with Anya and being an abuser I just feel like a lot is being missed out on#and it’s mainly cause people don’t want to make OCs that aren’t great people like it’s okay to have a grey mediocre OCs in situations like#this its realistic and helps you write more grounded characters like idk i like the ocs but eh im not like a super fan#I really should make an analysis on Jimmy cause people hate discussing him and his character is being really misunderstood#like not saying she’s innocent or an excuse but just not getting how he is supposed to work like he’s no dick fucking dasteredly#he’s a shitty guy who gets shittier like he ain’t start out an avengers level threat#mouthwashing#💀 anon#mouthwashing game#ask#anya mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#mouthwashing oc#now I gotta make an oc just to prove myself but I can’t draw#so maybe not cuz what’s the point if I can’t explain the fly drip
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jackandclairearesiblings · 1 month ago
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SPN season 16 except Sam goes back to school and get shell shocked by the change in atmosphere and vibes
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serpentineshine · 3 months ago
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i want to be as openly neurodivergent as L when i grow up
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chaos-and-recover · 1 month ago
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Please for the love of all that is good and pure I need people to be normal about other people who don't want or need to own cars or even have a driver's license. I understand that the last 80 or so years of urban development in North America has been so car-focused that a lot of places it's nearly impossible to live car-free but for those of us who CAN I need you to be normal about it.
I live in the largest city in Canada, the street I live on has a subway line running *directly underneath it*, I live less than a five minute walk from two subway stations, and I have a bike.
"But not everywhere is on the subway line!" There are buses and also: I have a bike.
"But What about jobs that require a licence?" Mine doesn't, I work from home, my entire industry I've been in most of my working life would never need that and is always going to be based in the city and I have no interest in changing industries or "branching out." I also don't plan on moving out of the city because this is where my friends and family live AND at some point the savings of living further away are offset by the necessity to get a licence and a car if I do.
"But What about emergencies?" So what I'm gonna pay for a car, pay insurance, pay to store it somewhere, on the off chance I might need it in a situation where there is no other means of transportation available? On the off chance you and I go on a road trip together and suddenly you're rendered unable to drive? The rare scenario where it's an emergency that requires driving? WHAT are the chances.
I'm gonna be 40 years old in a few months. I've made it this far without ever having a car. Please I'm begging you car-brained people I need you to understand there is another way to live.
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yuridovewing · 5 months ago
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i understand the frustration with “i made this gay pairing cis x trans so they can still have biological babies” with no thought to other methods and how ppl assume thats the case when it comes to mothpool aus where mothwing is also the mother of the three, but also…. idk i kinda dont give a shit if someone wants to do that and i dont really think its inherently transphobic as long as its handled with care and respect.
what really concerns me about this debate is how some people are adamant that you cannot portray trans people having biological children in media or youre being disrespectful. and im gonna say as a nonbinary person who doesnt want children for themself- thats kinda fucking weird? like i understand that for some people, theyre trans themselves and theyre speaking from a place of dysphoria, and i absolutely get that, which is why i think the topic should be handled with nuance and diversity in trans characters, but like…. guys. pregnant trans men exist irl. trans women get people pregnant irl. trans ppl’s ability and right to parent and have biological children are being debated irl. we get denied the opportunity to adopt as well.
in a climate like this, are we SURE we want the stance on rewrites and headcanons in the silly cat books to be “if you portray trans characters having children, especially with a gay couple, youre a transphobic freak no matter what!” does it really matter? especially if its being done by a trans person handling the topic with nuance who has a lot of trans characters with varying perspectives?
obviously yes, remember that thats not the only way certain gay couples can have kids, remember that not every trans person is fully comfortable with it and keep that in mind, remember that surrogacy and adoption are also perfectly valid ways to give fan babies- but remember that there are OPTIONS. not that you need to condemn the idea of transgender parents in the first place unless they fit the very specific criteria of “proper transgender representation” and anything that dares deviate from that is proof the op is a transphobic monster (bonus points if theyre a trans creator bc i mostly see trans people getting shit for this and it kinda pisses me off. although idm if cis people do it either as long as theyre handling it with respect)
#and this isnt getting into how trans mothwing outside of mothpool is a really good way to read her character#sorry. remembered the shit bonefall got despite being trans as well and got annoyed#that especially annoys me bc hes got plenty of surrogacies but the second hed touch a trans pregnancy#‘’no you cant do that!!! you freak!!! obviously you only see trans people as a loophole for gays to have babies!!!’’#also my gf and i were talking and obviously take this with a grain of salt bc this is our experience#but…. i think a lot of the ppl saying this……. havent really talked to trans women?#dude some of the ones i know LOVE the idea of getting people pregnant#did you know trans women have sex? did you know trans people in general have sex?? did you know trans people irl wanna start families?#did you know that? did you? or do you black out at the idea of a trans woman being anything but strictly pure and nonsexual#and OBVIOUSLY this is not every trans woman. some do have dysphoria around the idea#but im genuinely starting to wonder how these people act around irl transgender parents#whether they had kids before or after coming out#bc ngl. the attitude that thinking about this makes you a transphobic pervert?#directed at trans people making content for themselves?#im starting to think you all just dont want us to reproduce. if we reproduce we arent ‘’good’’ trans people#because a ‘’real’’ man wouldnt carry a child. a ‘’real’’ woman would carry the child. and god forbid the gays even THINK about reproducing#and being around children!#if we have children then we’re doing things that might make cishets look at us and declare we’re not perfect#we’ve proved we’re not just identical to cis ppl!! (and therefore deserving of respect!)#idk. i think this was mostly a case of tumblr going ‘’oh someone said no to this so lets push this to an unhealthy extreme!!’’#and i cant help but notice nobody really brings up nonbinary parents at all in this discussion#not that we have it ‘’better’’ or anything for that but yknow. are we supposed to swear it off?#is the idea of us having kids inconcievable? or worse…. does it mean we ‘’picked a side?’’#so its not even worth getting mad at a pregnant nb person bc ‘’well thats a woman so who cares’’b#HMMMMM.#ohhhh i bet they also get mad if you make transfem pregnancy possible too. no winning#idk really think about it when you go ‘’you can NEVER EVER portray a trans person starting a family. bc REAL trans people would never.’’#ohhh you probably get mad when trans ppl dont get surgery for one reason or another dontcha#whether we want to or its not in the cards for us for whatever reason like cost and such#(while also getting mad if we do bc we cannot win in this no matter what)
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cabinetduo · 6 months ago
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so the vision is guys what it'd be is qtubbo losing his fucking mind trying to figure put the mechanics of this timeloop trying to figure out how it ticks and like obviously at first he's having the time of his life while he does it, like solving the mystery while his actions have seemingly no consequences are you kidding me? a dream come true for this guy but watching the people he loves die over and over again gets real old real fast then the real curveball comes when he realizes sunny is looping with him and how long has she been going by this by herself? how much has she seen? then he starts micromanage control freaking it out, losing his mind a little while also trying to keep shit together for his daughter and he's comforting her but he's constantly at his limit and like yeah
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sickofthis666 · 11 days ago
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Me, watching SVU s14 e15: Damn, what can you do when your armed sister's abusive ex keeps following her and beating her despite a restraining order and you being an armed cop? Besides killing him...
Amanda: *kills her sis' ex*
Me: Oh. Nice??
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piosplayhouse · 1 year ago
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(This isn't bait, and you don't need to answer it if you don't want to). What's your beef with heartstopper?
The author and I have the same favorite mangaka but they tried to claim her as a "one of the good ones defying all problematic elements (of the gross bl genre of course)" without knowing that . One of the only other scanlated works from same mangaka is a psychological horror incest BL with every trigger warning under the sun
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Also I hate white British people but that's on me #listening and learning
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cosmik-homo · 1 day ago
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The thing with timelords is that yeahh theyre people but theyre also sort of complicated moving sculptures. or they all see themselves or function in some way as Projects as much as people. partially because doylistically, they... are.
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purgemarchlockdown · 1 year ago
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The temptation to vague about something in the milgram-confessions blog because its something thats bothered me for Actual Years about certain fandoms vs letting it go because when it is brought up its actually done somewhat tastefully and reasonably which makes me happy and this anon probably didnt mean it in the incredibly bad faith way I keep on seeing it be repeated so really Im getting upset over nothing.
#the answer is: ramble a bit in the tags just to get it out of my system#for some elaboration: Im asian! I have a knee jerk reaction when people go 'the westerners are projecting their values onto the east again'#because 9/10 of the times someone does that they're an American who wants to justify their weird racism/homophobia#by using the idea that asian countries (especially Japan) are backwards and/or ignorant but disguising it as 'being mindful of their cultur#and also then homogenizing them and pretending their all a monolith to be assholes to people!#and/or completely dismiss any possible criticism or interpretation for a series as a cultural values thing#this one fucks me up especially because usually there IS Merit in those interpretations/criticisms#but a concerning amount of people then go 'oh your just pushing your cultural values onto them' as a smokescreen to be a bunch of assholes#and/or discredit their ideas because Clearly All (insert x group here) think EXACTLY THE SAME and BELIEVE FULLY in whatever cultural#idea their using to justify this behavior#Ive Seen actual good discussion on differences in culture!#especially in another fandom of mine#but the worse option has happened so much that when I hear someone say those words alarm bells start ringing#its bad faith! I know its bad faith! But Ive engaged the worse option in good faith and came out wanting to punch someone A Lot More#Ive seen actually good faith discussions of cultural difference in this fandom sometimes! Its really nice but It scares me#cause im just Waiting for Someone to come in and ruin it#can you guys tell ive seen too many bad anime video essays? Ive seen too many bad anime video essays.
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mihai-florescu · 7 months ago
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From the drafts, thoughts about enst. Lalala
You know what Matrix reminds me of? Beasts. Baby's first introduction to experiencing and opposing racism, respectively transphobia. And yet they are unfortunately needed considering the audience (clunky as they are, i'd be happy if they make people reconsider internalized beliefs they hadn't been aware of). The western fandom likes to think themselves superior but im gonna be honest, while the lessons are very much obvious, i still see racist and transphobic remarks even from people who think themselves above it, without even realizing it. Once you deem yourself unable to commit "the worst things morally" you stop questioning your capacity to internalize and perpetuate harmful beliefs. Because "only bad people think or do that" - it is such an incorrect way to view things, morality, life. "Those are things a bad person does and I am good, therefore I can't do it. Also bad people can't have any good traits." is a sentiment all to common seen in online fandom spaces, a result of black and white thinking, that stuns growth and stops discussions rather than solve anything.
At the same time, the writing itself is not above criticism and conversations could and should be had. Ive seen and had some great talks recently. I just wish people would understand the very basic depiction=/=endorsement before jumping in, or that good and bad parts can coexist, and above all, looking at it as a piece of fiction that functions as such (What is it trying to convey? How is it done? Is it effectiv? How? Why? Who is the audience? Rather than a wall of "Well i personally dont like it. so it's bad". Feelings are valid but it's a bit like white noise i'd like to look past into exploring the uncomfortable. Speaking of, I'd like to eventually post some drafts that could be seen as touching uncomfortable topics but it's still scary, it's easy to get misinterpreted). Anyway, i also think a story can't be judged while incomplete. I have been keeping to priv/ my phone notes mostly because i know i can get careless and catty especially under stress. Im curious to see how it's wrapped up and how things will be evolving going forward...
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marv3l-drag0ns · 9 months ago
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SHES DONE!!!!!!!!
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im so happy look at it!!!!!! i finished draining and dirting this monument this is so much work culminating im so happy oh my GOSH!!!!!
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laconic-nightmares · 1 year ago
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so fucking bored of having to deal with moral ocd over the use of words
people arent going to stop making progressively stricter rules as to why people who dont have the exact fucking experiences as them cant use certain words
they arent going to stop trying to exclude anyone they percieve as suffering less than them from community, or help, or fucking 'terminology.'
i cannot express how little i give a fuck about this obsession with only ever using the exact right words, only using the words other people give u permission to use once theyve decided youve reached an acceptable level of visible pain. because its only about how much they think ur suffering based on their perception of ur life
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jentlemahae · 1 month ago
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