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its fine i also took a minute to get back to this weve both got lives it happens
hope everythings alright
so what im learning lately is that 9 times out of 10 if a civilization falls hubris was probably the #1 cause apparently
'the eradication of all existing life was a worthy sacrifice' cod damn if that doesnt sound horrifyingly familiar why do so many people operate this way
and now you guys are dealing with the consequences of that guys hubris it really is all hubris all the way down isnt it
thanks i guess but it did take me a minute. and also becoming captain to really implement much change about it but thankfully gramps' attitude started changing a little bit too
its harder to rationalize whats happening when youre actively partaking in invading the 'enemys' homeland to indiscriminately attack and steal back what they stole first
like sure i guess neither side in this conflict was really in the right but was all that really fucking necessary when a better solution was staring us right in the face
the theft of the great zapfish couldve been avoided if
i dunno
all the octarians' attempts at getting power in other ways werent always immediately thwarted by an old man stuck in the past?
like i love gramps im really glad hes changed his mind about a lot of things but come on
but tbh i get it when youre deep in the trenches of danger its hard to get your head out of the mud and take a proper gander at the propaganda against the backdrop of live combat and war
wait hang on those are actual bars cod damn
anyway at least you realized eventually right
ill accept the luck anyway theres definitely some shit im still just as blind to
like the grizzco bullshit cod the grizzco bullshit how did i let THAT slip under my radar for so fucking long
yeah space bear long story
or i guess the bear wasnt FROM space he was from earth but he used a space ship and went to space in the service of his Master Plan so
space bear
as for our funding lets just say the former captain has some rich relatives
not that hes ever paid any of us directly which is why we all have other jobs and all this is entirely an If You Can/Want To sort of situation
most of us just stuck with it because were freaks i think and tbh i think im too in over my head to just bail now even if i wanted to (which i dont)
i help my agents financially when i can obviously but mostly doing just freelance gigs isnt exactly the most stable income but hey album sales have been gaining traction so that helps
but yeah im a dj
until recently ive mostly just done remixes or live sets but i did release my first actual original album a little while ago
my style can vary i typically just throw whatever im thinking/feeling into the song im working on and go from there
which apparently tends to come across as more eccentric/alternative according to listeners idk
but that process is exactly why i only have one single original album release even though ive had my name as a dj out there since i was like 16
music im pretty sure is important to every culture but its super important to us fish people to us its the truest form of expression/communication in addition to just being really fucking hype and fun to listen to so when it comes to my songs i get all self conscious about what it is theyre saying without me even really meaning to say or i feel like they say something a little Too private for an audience it so a lot of my original works go unreleased its just the way it goes
anyway enough of me yapping what kind of music do you like gladiia
Apologies for the delayed response; a small matter was brought to my attention, and I had to swiftly resolve it before it became any less small. It's a pleasure to meet you, Captain.
To answer your question, the existential threat we face are called the Seaborn, though we now know that name to be somewhat inaccurate. Centuries ago, we made first contact with them in the depths of a benthic canyon. We found a mostly-slumbering form of strange, alien life. It was more adaptable than anything we'd ever seen. Not only could it acclimate almost instantly to any environment, including vacuum, it could mimic the form and function of anything it consumed. The few awakened terrors resembled a chimera of native wildlife, and had become the apex predators of their ravine. We quickly moved to contain this species, as it had already disrupted the local ecosystem, and if left unchecked could be disastrous. We failed.
We recently uncovered the origin of this plague: these monsters that forever grow, forever evolve, which have taken control of vast swathes of the ocean; monsters that adapt to every weapon used against them; monsters that have learned to take on the form of our weapons. They are not natural, but manmade. Built by the hubris of an ancient civilization that must have believed it could defeat death, if only it could make something stronger. Perhaps fearing the eradication of all life at the hands of an unknowable threat, a threat we have only seen the briefest of glimpses of, it created a form of life that could survive the end of everything. But life survived that civilization's fall, and it may not survive the consequences of what they left behind.
The Seaborn may have slumbered forever in the laboratories that contained them, an unfinished work of pure arrogance, had it not been for one of Ăgir's own scientists. Fearing the return of the apocalypse that wiped out our precursors, he awakened Ishar'mla, the great titan among those the Seaborn call the Firstborn. The eradication of all existing life was, in his eyes, a worthy sacrifice for the preservation of life itself.
I applaud you for recognizing the folly of your command on your own. I was not so quick to catch on. Perhaps the severity of the threat made me blind to the depths of Ăgir's depravity.
I wasn't ignorant to Ăgir's faults, but I rationalized them as functional necessities. It's easy to believe that you're doing the right thing, that nothing can be done about the cruelties you witness around you, when your skies are so darkly clouded you cannot imagine a sun beyond them. I'd wish you luck in keeping a moral righteousness in your command, but you don't seem to need it.
...
Hold on a second, space bear?
Thank you for elaborating. It may say something about me, or perhaps about Ăgir, that it's difficult for me to imagine a military whose operations are not fundamentally intertwined with law enforcement and civilian bureaucracy. Where does your funding come from, if I may ask? It's a militia, so I have to assume it's not from some public institution. I can imagine some system of self-sufficiency in the sale of services, or a reliance on donations from members or the public, but I don't wish to assume anything.
I've left this for the end, if only because it's the subject that's caught my interest the most. You're a DJ? For what sort of music? Can you offer any comments on your style? Systems of government, nations, militariesâof course I'm interested in these things, for they've occupied much of my life. What truly captivates me, however, is art and expression.
#ic#in-inertia#//that bit about music being super important to fish folks isn't exactly canon it's more of a headcanon#//but given just HOW important music is in the world of splatoon i'd be willing to bet it's true#//also oh my god this is So Much to type....... whoops
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Faust (feeds him oatmeal) 2, 8, 11, 19, 23, 25, 27, 33, 38, 44, 56
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2:Â What is your characterâs favorite memory?
i think some years ago he mightâve had a much different answer to this question but nowadays he looks fondly (and regretfully) upon back when things were relatively normal in canada. being divorced and directionless definitely beats dying of cancer while trapped in a radioactive military state.
8:Â Does your character hate anyone? Why?
âhate is a strong word uwuâ type of guy but. tbh iâd say be more generally hateful about his situation and the direction the region is going as opposed to hateful towards any particular person. which is maybe shocking considering how much of it he takes out on harvey (hes definitely still resentful for some of the things shes done but i digress) but sheâs an easy target tbh LMAOOO they were besties fr he cant be THAT hateful.Â
11:Â How did your character meet their best friend?
he met harvey when she started her first Capital Job, as he was already working there. he definitely had no obligation to meet her bcz they werenât really in the same department or anything apart from being relatively high up in the Bureacratic Hierarchy but...... heâs nosy and outgoing. it ended up working out because it became very clear to everyone else very soon that harvey has no social skills and everyone should probably just leave her alone LMAOO. hes different tho <3Â Â
19:Â What is your characterâs deepest, darkest secret?
i mean him having and hiding pretty severe cancer is definitely a deep dark secret. as were his true plans for taking the presidency after harvey and the consequences he would let that have on her. but i think the more necessary secret is just how much hatred he harbors for this place LOL and what he plans to do about it O__O enacting such plans would require a level of trust from his dear citizens though, heâd never want to give them the wrong idea by getting bitter in public. plus, itâd be sloppy to just drop a couple bombs and let everyone burn, he really doesnt WANT to kill people.
23:Â Is your character morally gray or black or white?
totally gray LOL maybe dark gray depending on how you look at it. i mean he DEFINITELY doesnt have to go out of his way to be a spiteful cunt and harass and torture harvey but. iâd say the necessity of his Region Zero Demolition Plans is questionable. yes, theres probably better ways to go about it BUT what better way to ensure no one will ever try this shit again and subject thousands more people to such painful lives? everything else heâs done up to this point is somewhat gray as well.......hes definitely got his justifications and people have definitely done worse for less but yknow.... i think similarly to his sister he really feels a need to do important things and thats a lot more difficult to say you did when you choose a career path that isnt rather inherently humanitatian. i think he becomes more desperate for that once he realizes ivy kinda sorta died in vain. Â
25:Â Would you want to hang out with your character?
i really would not <3 heâd spend an hour talking my ear off about literally Nothing.
27:Â What would be the worst way for your character to die?
THE REAL ANSWER TO THIS JUST IN TERMS OF HIS OWN WISHES IS DYING OF CANCER AND/OR BEFORE HE GETS TO CANADA. I THINK THERE WOULD BE FUNNIER MORE IRONIC THINGS THT COULD HAPPEN THO. REALLY. CAR ACCIDENT ON THE WAY TO GO HARASS HARVEY. IDK.
33:Â In what ways is your character like you?
heâs really really not like me much at all but. he IS a younger boy twin with a thing for pink <3 also hes fake but way more fake than i amÂ
38:Â What role does your character play in their story?
he is a proper antagonist he is here to create problems but he is also here to Maybe Kinda Have A Point??? Sometimes. plus i think its only suitable to his lovely perfect charming personality that heâs kinda the person who bridges the relationships between everyone deeply involved in the story, as heâs known everyone on at least a kinda personal level. this sucks for everyone else now of course, but it is true.Â
44:Â What is your character proud of?
i think hes proud of his sister even though they kinda split paths in a less than amicable way. heâs somewhat proud of himself as well for getting things accomplished so exactly to his liking (once he actually figured out what he wanted to do after moving here), but i think he feels more empty about that than one would expect a really accomplished outgoing job guy to typically feel.Â
56:Â Whatâs one of your characterâs quirks?
he has a really quirky hide-my-cancer-symptoms routine that he follows to perfection. he has a canadian accent that only becomes obvious on certain words and everyone thinks thats funny. he has an affinity for the color pink and always has to be wearing it.Â
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Picking up an old story that I used to love and realizing how utterly problematic it is is always just heartbreaking
#personal#its a fic but even so it came out honestly not that long ago?#it could be argued that because the cast is mostly teenaged boys the homophobia is sort of expected#or at least i shouldn't be surprised but#idk just because it happens doesnt mean its necessary for Your Story#its just worse hearing it from the mindset of the main#who im supposed to sympathize with#but the thing about interlized homophobia its not the subject of the plot thats going to be challenged#and given growth#its just going to be there at all times#gah#i think it didnt bother me as much before because i lived with guys who thought that way#despite those same guys being friends with queer folk
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Hello!! After seeing what you wrote about xiaoven fics I went to see what things you usually write and omg, your archon Venti headcanons????? I am absolutely in love. So if it isn't annoying, could you talk about xiaoven or Venti or Xiao or whatever ship or character you like? I don't care what you are going to say, I just want to know more about your thoughts ^^
I- is this... bestie, this is essentially a free ramble pass- kerujsgheskdfug. Trust me when I say that in no way is this, and in no way will it ever be annoying in the slightest- i literally- lets just say rambling off thoughts is kind of my specialty, especially when provided a topic to branch off of because otherwise I'm just- really indecisive about it so- iujskdh yeah- 100% definitely down to talk about Venti, Xiao, and/or Xiaoven XD. Also, yes- it may have been awhile since i last posted one(cuz again, indecisive about which direction to take part 5), but the Archon War Era Venti headcanons are still without a doubt my favorite posts I've made. It's just such an interesting topic with such endless potential that so few people actually think about or consider or even realize is there, so i always just get really psyched whenever i see someone interact with them lol.
.... this ended up being a bit of a mess: warning in advance
Anyway! onto the actual content!
- You see the thing about Xiaoven is that there's a lot of different ways that it could end up working out, and just personally my favorite way of portraying Xiaoven in my mind is as an unlabeled relationship because if anyone in genshin would give off that vibe its these two. And a number of other reasons.
- Firstly, I heavily headcanon Venti as being an aroace polyplatonic or perhaps heavily demiromantic. However, regardless of this I just don't think that Venti is really the kind of person to worry about how he should label his feelings, thinking it's silly to try to put them in one box or the other, especially with feelings and emotions being as fluid as they are in general. Plus it fits his whole God of Freedom vibe. I just- dont think he's the biggest fan of labels or social categorization in general.
- And secondly on the hand of Xiao... his defense mechanisms are very much ingrained in his personality. It's probably hard enough for him to not go into fight or flight(the answer is fight) at the slightest affection at first, at the slightest feeling of vulnerability. Even further down the line, with his fierce dedication to Liyue, I cant help but get the vibe that the moment he recognized that he was falling for Venti he would begin avoiding him, not only to avoid distraction from his duty, but to avoid corrupting him or losing him in general like he has with like basically every other person he gets close with(even believing that the cycle had repeated once more when he first heard of Morax's death)... now imagine Venti tryna slap a label on their relationship and tell me Xiao would have a positive reaction.
- The thing with Xiaoven.... honestly, i feel like theres more ways that it can go wrong than it can go right, but if they do manage to make their relationship work out, it's just simply beautiful in all terms of the word.
- Lets talk about killing. - During the Archon War, both were forced to kill a large number of people and gods alike- Venti out of a need to remain alive to protect Mondstadt, it's freedom, and the nameless bard's legacy by extent- and Xiao out of servitude to the god that was once his master
..... actually- break here- ive talked a lot about Venti on this blog but I havent actually spoken about Xiao all that much- so i should probably do that a bit first... do note though that my characterization of Xiao is pretty flexible actually- this is just- the possible characterization of him that i tend to favor as being the most- uh- "realistically complex"
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Theres a line I saw this one time in a certain story: "He is a trained weapon. That's what he is, was, and always will be. You cannot change that so stop trying." And i just- think its a really interesting concept- that applies pretty well to Xiao now that i actually think about it. - the concept behind it is this: After spending more than a vast majority of his life killing or otherwise in battle, it's become a part of who he is, a normalcy that after centuries and centuries would be near impossible to get rid of or reverse, and even if it was possible, with his karmic debt constantly eating away at him its unlikely he has enough time left for that to happen. - it sounds like a cruel thing to say about him- but in context it's actually pretty layered and i think about it a lot. It's not as much a "he's a killer lol, that his whole personality" its more of a "The centuries of trauma he experienced have conditioned him into a constantly alert and battle ready mindset while also shaping his dehumanizing inferior-in-worth-but-superior-in-capability view of himself that would have likely been necessary to get through those time, and at this point he's been under that conditioning for long enough that it's essentially ingrained itself in his personality."
- the main idea is- it's a part of who he is, that needs to be accepted as who he is because its not something that he can just up and change. It's not all he is of course but his constant battle mode, as though always waiting to be ambushed or to be granted a new target to eradicate.
a couple character story quotes:
-"His past of service under the evil god had rid Xiao of his innocence and gentleness. All that remained within him was the means to kill and the weight of his sins. The only way he could be of service to mortals was in combat." -"Xiao does not feel any hatred. Having lived for over two thousand years, no single karmic debt constitutes anything more than a fleeting memory. No grudge can last a thousand years; nor is any debt so great that it cannot be paid off in this time. Xiao has spent many long years alone. But his battles have never been in vain." -"where did Xiao have to return to? He was merely leaving the battlefield." -"since Xiao wages a constant war against dark forces powerful enough to devour Liyue in its entirety, any bystanders who witness him in the heat of battle are likely to end up as collateral damage." -"The war he fights can never be won, and will never come to an end." -"Because ultimately, the one with whom Xiao wrestles is himself."
i feel like at some point this very nearly did consume his whole personality, almost turning him into nothing more than a being of slaughter under Morax's control, devoid of any "humanity" at all, consumed and corrupted by his karmic debt like his fellow yakshas before him. - until he experienced a moment of clarity- a song in the wind, the peaceful melody of a dihua flute. - and pulled back from the border of something he wouldnt have been able to return from, there a was a shift in his mind- a concept grown unfamiliar enough with time that it took him a great time to identify what it was; a curiosity. Something that there was no place for on the battlefield, something that by all means should have been completely useless to Xiao, and yet he held onto that curiosity, slowly regaining over time, a sense of who he was and who he could choose to be with each song that the wind chose to carry towards him every once in a blue moon.
and eventually that curiousity turned to longing. Longing "for a day to come when he will wear the mask and dance â not to conquer demons, but to the tune of that flute amid a sea of flowers"
...... uh- heh- if you couldnât tell already i have a tendency to make my characterizations/analyses of characters more serious that i probably should.Â
to summarize: Xiao is constantly toeing the line between his ingrained nature and his humanity- almost as though still trying to decide how much of that humanity he deserves to have, how much he is allowed to have, and how much is safe to have.
^looking back after writing this, i think the best way to explain it is that this is the view that i keep in mind/the lense that i tend to most enjoy looking through and refering back to while examining and/or analyzing his character, actions, story, lines, and overall personality.
idk- i kinda got off track but i just think its a really interesting interpretation to think about because it has some really interesting implications ig- itâs not the full extent of how i view him of course, but i kinda got ahead of myself and its long enough as is so ill just elaborate as i go- Lol i actually have in progress playlists for both him and venti and just- vibes- i could ramble about the playlists alone for hours explaining everything... Itâs probably a problem- uh- ill keep going now lol.
anyways! stepping off the angst path for a brief break! Brought to you by their lines in the snow: both waiting for it to get thick enough, Venti for the purpose of a snowball fight and Xiao for the purpose of a tasty and nutritious breakfast.
but its actually something of note that Xiao doesnt actually need to eat so anything he does eat is usually out of obligation or enjoyment- so like.... snow.... like i dont blame him, but of all things- an adeptus who refuses to eat basically anything but almond tofu looks at the freezing-cold-floor-water that yeeted itself from above and decided at some point- damn- that seems more edible than basically ever single actually edible thing ever.... im gonna eat it- like- im glad if eating snow makes him happy but- at the same time...
He probably convinces Venti to eat snow too though and Venti wouldnt even resist I mean heâs wind and has probably consumed worse things in his time so- 2 anemo cryptids with glowing tattoos sitting in Dragonspine monching snow in the dead of night is an amusing thought to me.
- kay, now back to more serious-toned thoughts
One of the things about the ship that i really like is the different contradicting parallels between them:
A lot of how i view Xiaoâs character is someone formed largely by the things he cant control and who was forced to accept that accepted that and learned to thrive in it as much as he can. Venti on the other hand is surrounded by things he cant control and is ever adapting to control as much as he can while embracing whatever he cant as being part of the unpredictability of the world, seeing beauty in it.Â
both of them have lost people and do what they do to honor their memory: Xiao continues to do what the Yakshas once did And Venti chooses to do what his friend couldnât
Xiaoâs power coming from himself and Ventiâs from others And both seem to appear to use their power for their own gain while truly helping others behind the scenes
both have killed a lot of people during the archon war Xiao views it as another necessary event out of his control and Venti would likely view it as a tragedy he chose to enact himself
and this is where we meet out balance
Xiao- contrary to how i think a lot of people view him as thinking of himself as a monster- seems canonically to have accepted this as part of his duty, as long as those he killed are not mortals. I dont think he enjoys it no- but someone has to do it and heâs just accepted that its a part of his duty Venti on the other hand-
See the beauty of the ship- as someone with an angst-centric mind- is this- these are two of the most traumatized mfers in the gameÂ
Xiao is by far the one who needs the most help and who can serve to benefit most from the ship- but he is nowhere near self aware enough to recognize that thereâs anything wrong or unhealthy about his mindset in the slightest-
whereas you have the contrast with Venti who sorted through most of his trauma with the nameless bard alone during the archon war and while the result appears more healthy- is still really not- but heâs not self aware of that either because i mean- whoâs going to tell him? nobody even knows.Â
however- venti is aware enough to notice flaws in Xiaoâs mindset and âVentiâ enough to want to help them through it-
Xiao- while not aware enough to recognize the flaws in Ventiâs mindset, can recognize where it contrasts with his own, and is blunt enough to point it out- and then itâs out there to be mulled over-Â
theyâre so similar and yet so different and a feel just conversing between the two of them, being in each others precense, just being exposed to two mindsets that are so very different could do both of them a whole lot of good.
GEEE THAT BIT OF RAMBLING HAD LITTLE TO NO DIRECTION AT ALL- LET ME-- LET ME MAKE THIS START MAKING SENSE- WITH... DYNAMICS OR SOMETHING
I donât think Xiao needs to sleep really- and i dont think that sleeping would do anything except make him uneasy at first- heâd probably just get nightmares after all heâs been through- but with Venti he would soon learn that it doesnât have to be that way, lulled into the first peaceful sleep heâs had in... as long as he can remember.
anywho back to not making sense cuz im fickle and i think most questions about ships are best displayed through character interactions so like- a possible exchange thats cliche but cliches exist for a reason
Xiao: Why do you try so hard to help me, it isnât easy. I know that much Venti, with the most adoring expression: Because youâre worth it, obviously Xiao: But surely there are others more deserving of- Venti: No Xiao, everyone is just as deserving as the next person, you included Xiao: Then why me above others? Venti:Â ehe, cuz ur my warrior of course [O//////O oh shit, hes right] Xiao: My contract is with Morax alone [gay panic but in broody yaksha]
itâs kinda difficult cuz neither of them really address their feelings. I mean Venti does but he does it very indirectly and its rare that he ever does it with like- genuine directness- even spilling his backstory was in the form of a song- and told in the third person- so a lot of their interactions would often have some deeper meaning, especially with Venti being the bard he is.Â
I come up with a lot of- errant thoughts about Xiaoven- but this is making me realize that a true analysis of their ship is rather difficult because it just encompasses so many dynamics so its hard to settle on just one and not go rambling about who knows what bouncing from one end of the ship to the other-Â Because you truly can and thats the beauty of it
within one moment you can be having a heartfelt conversation about the archon war the impact of lost friends and times past, and the next moment Venti is trying to forcefeed Xiao an apple while Xiao screams about disrespecting the adepti and its just- so lovely
so while they have picnics with nothing but apples, dandelion wine, and almond tofu they can sit down and talk about the dreams Xiao once devoured, and the dandelion wine and apple cider that the first Ragnvindir invented from the plants that never could have grown in Old Mond. The foods that tasted of familiarity, or of the grilled ticker fish Pervases always used to eat, foods that tasted of friends and frankly family that had since passed, glaze lilies and cecilias and qingxin flowers scattered in the surroundings and woven into Xiaoâs neat braids and Ventiâs now messy ones, rebraided by the steady and inexperienced hands of one unused to gentle action.Â
and then of course Venti steals Xiaoâs tofu once the mood becomes too grim and replaces it with a bottle of wine that Xiao refers to as âvile poison,â a remark that fatally wounds Venti as he collapses on the floor, proclaiming how he can only be healed by a Yakshaâs kiss. Xiao ignores this of course and simply takes back his tofu with a slight smile on his face, but as Venti persists he soundlessly places a kiss on his own palm before intertwining their fingers and pulling him back up from where he was dramatically sprawled on the floor, grumbling about how such action was âunbecoming of an archon.â A sign of affection only Xiao would ever know about. But Venti is literally wind and I hc his senses work differently anyways so he definitely knows- plus Xiaoâs face is red as the blood of his enemies and the way he is pointedly not looking at Venti at all really speaks volumes anyways.Â
 -Venti playing epic battle music whenever Xiao goes into fights in what looks like a ridiculously extra performance to anyone else but is actually doing wonders to keep Xiaoâs karma at bay
-Venti preaches the practice of âkissing wounds betterâ and Xiao is unfamiliar with this medical treatment but views it as unnecessary regardless because adepti have accelerated healing, doesnât mean heâs going to stop him though.Â
-Messages whispered on the wind
-Ventiâs 1000 year sleep- an accident, not a fun time for the yaksha, and not a fun time for Venti once he woke up. Venti is actually more afraid of restful sleep than Xiao is, hence the sleeping in trees thing, but when Xiao is there, he can sleep restfully with faith that Xiao wont let another millennia slip through his fingertips.Â
- Xiao tends to make excuses when doing things that arenât necessary to his duty, like in his birthday voice line âHave this, itâs a butterfly i made from leaves... Okay. Take it. Itâs an adepti amulet -- it staves off evilâ because at the current point in his progress it helps him to feel like heâs allowed to do these things. Not wanting to put him off from progress, Venti never comments on his excuse but never fails to whisper a quick reminder of how proud he is of how far Xiao had come.
- Xiaoâs karma saddens Venti greatly- not only because of how it effects Xiao but also because its a reminder that as much as Venti tries to honor the memory of those heâs killed, there will always be those who resent him for it, and when he took the option of living away from them, he truly canât blame them. - And when he gets too wrapped up in thoughts, whether around this topic or similar ones or otherwise, eventually, heâll hear the sound of a flute on the wind. Itâs not divine by any means, but as his own wind connects him to the source, he gets the sentiment all the same. âWhat impact does one individualâs remaining wrath have on the present. You have done much to help the living in the presentâ the unspoken idea that Xiao has included himself in that statement, because now, with Ventiâs help heâs beginning to learn just how to experience living for himself.Â
- Ventiâs form and Xiaoâs mask are off limit topics though because if either mentions it the other will counter with the opposite and the mood will turn immediately bitter at the idea that both know that what theyâre doing is destructive but neither are willing to change
- Venti who has different tells for negative feelings than most people because as much as he likes to pretend it is- this form isnt his, and Xiao who is able to identify those
- many fanfics and headcanons have Venti recognizing when Xiao is uncomfortable and getting him out of those situations. I see that and I love it but i raise you: - Venti taking Xiao to Mondstadt, careful that he doesnât get to the point that heâs uncomfortable. And nothing goes wrong exactly, but Xiao notices the the way Ventiâs cape is blowing in the wind, the way heâs holding his weight, barely on his feet so much as floating on the wind, connected with the ground only for the sake of appearance, all the while he looks just as happy go lucky as ever. And without a word, he grabs his hand and teleports them both out of Mondstadt. - turns out it was just a slight thing that reminded him of the archon war (cuz i will die on the hill of him having more tragic backstory than just Decarabian), and he of course gives a sincere if not flustered thanks to Xiao, because heâs really not used to people noticing.Â
- Venti trying to vent sneakily through fictional stories and Xiao is just like âDidnât that basically happen to youâ and Venti is just like â<_< shitâ
- Venti once said affectionally that he wished he had met Xiao sooner and Xiao immediately and seriously shot it down by saying âIf you had, I would have been forced to kill youâ and both of them now stay up at night wondering who would have won that fight, not sure which result would have hurt more. (because honestly I have no idea who would win in that fight and that terrifies me- I like to think it would have been one of those legends that end with âand the fight persists to this dayâ or something along those lines)
-Â âHow long have you been together?â âAdepti have no need for-â â1000+ years T^T how dare you deny our loveâ âO///O our...? ...uselessâ
- its disney- let me explain- i have this- i have this headcanon inspired by watching too many animatics- - so venti has a human form that isnt his- which he would have had to get used to moving in- and heâs a bard- - uh- anyway- as a third degree black belt in mixed martial arts, i can speak as an authority on this(not really an authority since i havent gone since quarantine but lets pretend). We have a thing referred to as the big three(most things do), and those things are martial arts, gymnastics, and dance. The idea is that they reflect really well off of each other and the best in any one category are good in all three. Timing, balance, form, discipline, technique, hand-eye coordination, grace, ease of motion, they all play a part- anyway-
- Venti taking Xiaoâs prowess in martial arts and acrobatics and teaching him how to dance, and as someone whoâs extremely skilled in the first two, the third comes easy to him, almost naturally. And itâs delicate and beautiful and lovely and it isnât hurting anyone. And Venti points all these things out and more and despite how much Xiao insists that he feels ridiculous he truly does enjoy it and it goes a long way towards helping him form more healthy views of himself and his worth. - Verr Goldett walked in on him once and made a joke about performing at the inn. unfortunately Venti was there and agreed on Xiaoâs behalf before he could protest and- and it wasnât as bad as Xiao thought it would be... he still wouldnât do it again though without reason, but with good enough reasoning he could probably be convinced.Â
- anyways point is he likes dancing to Ventiâs songs and i just think thatâs really cute - just picture the idea that all the animatics you see actually have the potential to be canon- ugh
- venti tries holding something out of Xiaoâs reach since heâs taller and Xiao just fucking teleportsÂ
- both need their space but when they dont, all they have to do is speak the otherâs name and theyâll be there.
- and because i just had to.... love languages
- lets start with Xiao- i donât think heâd view acts of service or quailty time as a love language tbh, and he blunt but really bad with words so affirmation is out, leaving gift giving and physical touch. However, he seems to view most material things as meaningless so- - Xiao whoâs love language is in his fleeting touches, something heâs only recently grown comfortable with because of Venti, and now is giving back, which he knows he doesnât have to do, but that he wantâs to, though heâll still continue to make excuses for each one. âyou were shiveringâ âThe inn is high up, you could have fallen..... I said what I said, youâd question an adeptus?â
- and as easy as it is to say words of affirmation for Venti- he does that for everyone- i want to say his is actually acts of service - its the acts of service that let him see just how much Xiao has progressed afterall, from teaching him to dance, to playing another song on the flute, to supplying him with the almond tofu he seems to enjoy so much. Every little thing he does helps Xiao to grow and he couldnât be happier about that.Â
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- of course most of my headcanons for the ship do take place latter into the relationship because- yâknow the less serious unhealthy vibes allow for greater range of thought, but i do still love to think about the serious implications so i kinda hopped back and forth. So sorry about how messy it is btw, i kinda- got carried away- it kinda got some kind of structure near the end tho so- maybe itâs okay. anyway- back to... lol something, weâll see where thought forests lead.Â
#genshin impact#genshin xiao#genshin venti#xiao#venti#xiaoven#genshin analysis#genshin headcanons#xiaoven headcanons#xiaoven analysis#this is a mess i really shouldnt be putting all these tags but oh well#oh wow the grammar and spelling here is truly repulsive#sorry to all my english teachers i have failed you all
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they just feel superfluous to me?
they dont really add anything to the plot beyond being giving a reason why salem wanted the maiden powers: because with the maidens, she could get the super important magical relics and those existed because of the brother gods.
which like, okay. the version of them in volume 4 is fine; its not that original of a concept but your story doesnt have to be totally unique to be good. it seemed to be setting up a path of light (ozpin and the elder brother) vs a path of dark (salem and the younger brother) which would give a fairly aimless show some structural foundation, and could lead to an interesting twist that builds on the foreshadowing of ozpin being shady.
theres also some cool ideas to build on from that where the line between "light and dark" isnt necessary where the line between moral and immoral is.
i like that the younger brother seems more themed as destruction and the elder as creation because those are morally neutral acts at base, and despite being antonyms or one another, theres a very thin line between them. and i mostly like their characterisation in volume 4 even if its quite shallow. plus, the cave-art-esque animation style for them is very cool.
in volume 5, they become unbearable and this is where they really start feeling superfluous to me.
i actually like their characterisation this volume; the way they play with ozmas life like hes a puppet and the curse of salems immortality is really good from the standpoint of cruel and uncaring gods. the kind whose worship is closer to racketeering than any religious practice. the brothers literally massacre an entire world just because maybe a 100 humans tried to hurt them; theyre in good running with like any greek god.
the problem is that they are very much framed as if they are in the right. like im not gonna go bat for salem here because home girl did some fucked up shit, but the brother gods are not at all the good guys.
theyre presented as if they are the morally correct ones and that salem had ruined the paradise that humans used to get to live in, and that they have proved that they can be trusted to make a morally correct choice when the relics are gathered. to which i would argue:
no
past-remnant being a paradise is debatable. the fact that the human set up was feudalism but with magic is half the argument itself.
the two of them treated like a yo-yo with the resurrection routine which could probably cause ptsd by itself. the punishment salem received was unjustly harsh and i guess her only viable solution was begging them for mercy. all of humanity (apart from salem) was wiped out because some people were mean to them. younger bro also broke the moon because fuck it, we ball, i guess. the elder brother decides to give ozma the job of uniting all of humanity, and decides not to help him by idk killing salem or even just explaining what happened to him, or not spawning him in mid-fight. theres also the pretty horrific way that oz respawns like he just takes over some guy who now just gets no free will because fuck him in particular.
he also decided not to do anything about what the humans were doing to the faunus? like, okay, youve wiped your hands clean with humanity but what did the faunus do to you?
its really weird to frame these fuckers as being in the right. theyre not. salem is, also, not in the right, but in her defense, she didnt massacre literally everyone on the planet because they shot some arrows at her.
again, i would be fine with this take on the gods if they were framed as morally grey figures. but theyre not, theyre painted as the rightful rulers who had to abandon their creation because one lady was fucking stuff up. and we're supposed to just accept this and cheer on the heroes as they stop salem from getting the relics, but like, no. these guys are horrible and beating me over the head with the morally correct framing just makes them unbearable.
and also, they arent crucial parts of the plot that cant be taken away and replaced by something else. as is, they represent an apocalyptic scenario; salem gets the relics together before our plucky heroes can save the day so the brother gods arrive and judge humanity as a failed experiment and kill everyone, again.
but you can replace them with anything else that would cause an apocalyptic scenario? like salem getting the relics together itself can be an apocalyptic scenario. salem having four evil maidens could be an apocalyptic scenario.
we dont need the brother gods for the plot to work, and idk about you, but i think its pretty weird for the all powerful creators in a show that often brands itself as women-led and feminist.
For those of you who have watched RWBY what are your opinions regarding the brothers and their actions? I am asking for science.
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Anon said: Would you draw SukuFushi? (Sukuna x Fushiguro)
maybe? *thinking face* if I ever got an idea for it, why not. I find sukunaâs obsession with fushiguro entertaining so I donât count fanarts for it as impossible haha
Anon said: I looked and I couldn't find if you've answered this already, so apologies if you did, but how do you draw your faces? I always struggle with face shape and yours are always super good with really expressive features! Anyway, thanks so much I love your art <3
HMMMMMMMM how do I do that indeed, the basics are honestly what youâd find on any basic tutorial about drawing a face (circle, cross in the middle of it, build the face around that - I really still canât avoid that step and probably never will). As for the expressions, to be honest with you my way of going about them is thinking them up in emoji/kaomoji form first and then go from there. Emojis and kaomojis have to simplify expressions to the max since itâs such a simple format, right? But theyâre still super expressive and convey exactly what theyâre trying to say with one single glance, so using them as some kind of reference sheet has helped me a lot in figuring out whatâs essential to express what Iâm trying to say - still working on it though! Iâm rarely satisfied with my expressions, they really do make or break a drawing donât they............ you never stop learning, I guess!
Anon said:Â Ahhhhhhh I just spent like hrs scrolling thru ur oc tag and theyâre all amazing I love them so much but I keep confusing the everloving SHIT out of myself cuz I too have a child who is Leo and heâs literally so different from ur Leo lol. Anyway tho ur art is amazing and it honestly just makes me so happy so ty and hope have a good day!!
OHHHHHHHHHHHH MY LEO! Itâd been forever since Iâve last drawn him, I kind of miss him............... glad you like my stuff, by the way! Especially about you liking my ocs, that means the world to me!
Anon said: hi there !!! i was wondering if i had ur permission to ur ur itafushi art in one of my edits ! i wanted to be sure before using it <3 total respect if its a no !! thankyouuuu
Sorry but Iâd prefer if you didnât do that!
Anon said:THERES A OCTOPATH TRAVELER LIGHT NOVEL AND ITS SO COOL BUT ITS ONLY IN JAPANEESE ! ;^;There's four stories with centered around pairs of characters and alfion is one of them !Idk if itll be transleted but i hope itll be cuz it sound awesome
OH I KNOW!!!!!!! I saw the art for the alfion one a while back, it looks so soft!!!! ;;;;; 8path is kinda niche as a game though, so who knows.............. letâs cross our fingers!!
Anon said:Â hello, i am here to recc Skeletons by New Years Day because i think it might fit a few of your ships<3
Thanks anon now Iâm emo ;;;;;
Anon said: bakubro gives the best hugs. kirishima is the only one who knows this. everyone is absolutely incredulous when the question "who gives the best hugs" goes around and kirishima answers bakugo. (bakugo thinks kirishima is the best but he benefits from kirishima bodily hugging him and he's biased)
Definitely!! Heâs strong and warm after all, bet hugging him would feel the best.... the only one who shall ever know is kiri though, as I bet his hugs are only that nice when he really likes the person heâs hugging hahaha
Anon said: Hi! Just wanted to say that I absolutely love your JJK art! The colors and style are absolutely stunning.
Thank you so much!!!!!!! I feel like Iâm mostly drawing for myself lately ngl hahaha so knowing you like it means a lot!!
Anon said: Hi!! This isn't a request I just really like your art! I found you from Pinterest on a kiribaku thing you drew! Your art is so cool! I wish I could draw like that!!! I'll keep looking for new art you've made :D
Aw pinterest.......................... glad you could find your way back here though!! And thank you!!
Anon said: This happened a while ago, but i wanted to say it anyway. I remember when I started watching jujutsu kaisen and I was looking for content arter finishing the first 10 episodes in less than a day and I found your first jujutsu kaisen post (it was posted that dame day) and i was like ???? One of my favorite artists got into jk at the same time than me!!! I just thought it was a neat coincedence to share! I really love your art too, you're amazing!! Happy New Year!!
Itâs!!!!!!!!!!!! a pretty dang neat coincidence for me too, since itâs always nice to know at least some of my followers are still into the stuff I make hahahaha
Anon said: i think a lot abt ur art and how ive been seeing u since middle school and now im graduating highschool and we're still in the same fandoms, i hope this doesnt make u feel old but rather VERY cherished qwq
No anon this makes me feel amazing youâve been around so long!!!!!!! I canât believe youâre still here with my thank you so much for that!!!!!! I think Iâm gonna cry a little here.......... ;;;
Anon said: Hi! I love your art so much!! 𼰠Have you read a KiriBaku fic called The Pit??
Probably not, havenât been reading krbk fics in a while by now! Iâll add it to my for-later list, thank you so much for the rec!!
Anon said: can u believe that (sans sero) the entire bakusquad can be put into some form of punk/goth fashion? the realization was a galaxy brain moment for me. also realizing that tokoyami, kirishima, and tamaki are all varying levels of goth/emo (some more concerning than others)
Seroâs the hippie friend every punk friend group needs, he balances things out and thatâs why heâs very cherished and necessary!!!!
Anon said: your bakugo drawings convinced me to finally start stretching my ears and tbh i'm extremely excited (i've had off and on thoughts of stretching my ears (again) before this so it's not as impulsive as it sounds haha)
Anon thatâs so cool!!!!!!! I love gauges so much.....................glad I could give you the last push for it!!
Anon said: uhhhh, i love the style of that top left goge drawing dude!!
THANK YOU I LOVE DRAWING IN THAT STYLE THIS ASK MEANS THE UNIVERSE TO ME
Anon said: i sent the dragon!kiri and bakugo tug-of-waring over a piece of meat and honestly your response is exactly what i thought
Great minds!!!!!!! hahaha
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Why s5 *might* be the season MacRiley happens
Okay so...Hear me out! I'm not crazy I promise!!
Firstly, after 5x03 (and probably 5x04) it may seem very unlikely that MacRiley could ever happen. But I thought of a few reasons why they might actually happen by the end of s5 after all.... (it gets a lil long winded and kinda complicated but just stick with me till the end!)
1. All the MacRiley moments including the ones in 5x03.
[this Mac smile could not be an accident or something that slipped through both production and post-production right?! that in itself is a whole reason!]
Every Macriley moment we have ever had- whether it's the hugs, Riley saving Mac, Mac saving Riley, the ultimate show of loyalty when Riley went after Mac during Codex or even just the looks exchanged between the two- to any outsider it would seem pretty obvious that they are dating or at least in love. Keep in mind the writers would have written each of those scenes and Lucas and Tristan have acted them out with a specific build up in mind aka MacRiley.(think about the date episode: Riley just got dumped but was still thinking about how Mac might be hungry. She didnt have to do that. She could have just shown up at his place..) I mean how can they write two people so perfectly in sync and so perfect for each other and not have them end up together? It would just be a waste of all that tension and slow burn. (not to mention all the hugs and glances)
2. They know we exist.Â
The MacRiley fam is very active on twitter with the writers and while they were writing 5x01 they knew we were around. They know we are a huge group. They would not want to risk pissing 90% of the fandom off by not making MacRiley endgame.
[P.S.yes 5x03 was a bait and switch but if you were paying attention you would have noticed that neither Lucas not Tristan live tweeted or hyped up the episode. They knew we would probably hate it so they didnt publicise it too much! so in the future if you have doubts about the episode being a MacRiley one just check their stories or posts on twitter/intstagram]
3. Yes 5x03 happened.Â
I really think it was an episode they HAD to write. Ok so after 4x13 they had 7 more episodes planned and were filming 4x20 (aka the finale) when the pandemic struck. So they have these 6 episodes but no finale for it. [Idk if anyone else has noticed but in 5x01 there were clearly some parts cut out. For example the conversation between Desi and Riley towards the end seemed a bit jilted. Riley asking Desi to forgive her but Desi replied with yeah we are cool (still no apology ofc) I feel like something happened during that which ended up getting cut out so it could fit with the final story.]
This makes me think that they have rewritten a few bits to tie into the new finale episode. In 5x03 when Mac asked Desi to come fishing with him which was clearly something very personal to him she was like no do better.. then we see Mac's disappointed expression. She could have easily said okay but maybe not for our first date? Or its not really my thing? Or just about anything else rather than laughing in his face like that. Eventhough MD is together they still arent compatible. Macâs final words in 5x03 was him being desperate. I truly think he is so broken and lost that Desi is the only safe thing left, the only thing he feels like he can fix right now. Once he finds himself again and heals...then it's going to hit him like a pile of bricks!!
4. But Riley doesn't have feelings anymore...WELL doesnt she?Â
When it comes to Mac, Riley is always in denial. We saw it in s4 when she tells Bozer not to make her say it. I think s5 will show her finally accepting it. Finally accepting that she is in love with her best friend and that it definitely isnt Codex adrenaline because she caught the feels when Codex wasnt even around. While Mac's arc would include realising he and Desi are never going to work and that he is unhappy and that RILEY is the one for him.
[why else would they give Riley feelings for Mac? Something has to come of it.]
5. The slow burn rule.[this point is a lil complicated]Â
Now season 5 is rumoured to have 13 episodes. So hereâs what I think: If MacGyver follows the pattern that most shows do when it comes to slow burns, then technically MacRIley should have happened at the end of season 4. But since the season got cut short and they didnt get to air/finish their final episode the writers had to improvise.Â
From what I know, 4x19 which is 5x04 for us is the episode where Mac meets Desiâs parents and 4x20 was supposed to be the finale that was left unfinished.(they are definitely moving the timeline ahead if a pre finale episode is suddenly a mid season one.) There might have been a 4x21 or 4x22 but I haven't heard anything about those....EVER.
So what I think they have decided to do instead is extend the MD storyline a bit longer just so they dont end up scrapping all their s4 episodes where they would be together and write a new finale that ties everything together, aka MacRiley.
If you think about episode counts, s4 and s5 together would have 26 episodes which is a how long a normal season runs. Basically what im trying to say is if we follow the âslow burns end by s4â and take season 5 as an extension of 4 then MacRiley should get together in the season 5 finale or maybe the episode just before. (IM REALLY TRYING TO GET SOME LOGIC INTO THIS)
This would be a typical TV thing too where the couple finds out about each otherâs feelings while the main arc of the show is also at its peak, which perfectly sets up a future season where fans are hyped but still has a satisfying ending.
6. So what about MacDesi?
So far the macgyver writers have given us characters we love. Think of every character on the show apart from maybe Desi... Mac, Riley, Bozer, Jack, Matty, Leanna, Samantha, Russ and even Murdoc. WE LOVE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. So then why is Desi such a strange character? I think shes purposely been written as an opposite to Mac or even Riley (I get sheâs supposed to kinda replace Jack but Jack is really irreplaceable).Â
It's not necessarily a bad thing its just not a great thing to do or have great execution. People have said things like Desi is a badass and shouldnt have to apologise or say I love you back to her boyfriend because she is a strong woman...I'm sorry but your opinion of who a strong woman is, is EXTREMELY skewed. A strong woman is someone who can make mistakes and when she does, she is âstrongâ enough to own up to it, she is loyal and fierce and also caring while being a badass who can take down bad guys. And for GODS SAKE, RILEY DAVIS IS A STRONG WOMAN...people have called her mushy and feminine on twitter and I'm just very confused by that.....
Anyways before I go off on a rant, it seems like Desi is intentionally being written this way. Every opportunity they get to redeem her and make her more relatable or just a better person they just dont take it. While Rileys character arc is one of the best I've ever seen. Either its intentional or theyâve forgotten how to write characters...which is worrisome but ill give them the benefit of the doubt.
The writers also know we dont like Desi. The amount of times we've tagged them in the toxic posts or pointed out problematic things we can be sure they've seen at least half of those. So theres no way they dont know. RIGHT?
So why then is MD still a thing you may ask??
Well for one they cant break them up again off screen because of those unreleased s4 episodes. (not to mention the other parts of the audience who arent as invested in macâs love life would probably be very confused.)
Secondly Mac has to be the one to pull the plug, not Desi. 4x13 made it seem like Desi was the annoyed one not Mac. He apologised to her which meant he wanted to fix things.Â
Thirdly, they are opening the chpt one last time before they permanently close it. MD is going to be a stark contrast to macriley(it already is in every way possible). Every issue Mac and Desi had can be used to show how amazing macriley really is as two people who arent even dating yet.
Fourthly, MD being together is a sort of commentary on Macs mental health as well. We can see how happy he is with Riley but around Desi he becomes some one else. If the writers are doing this on purpose or subconsciously still remains to be seen.
And Yes keeping MD around for a few more episodes seems like a necessary risk right now but I have a feeling its going to be worth it later.
[I know we have had like 4 desi entered episodes already but I really think 5x04 will be the last of it since 5x05 is the Jack episode and 5x06 is Mac+Riley+Bozer episode with no mention of Desi at all!]
The writers know we are a dedicated bunch and they know that once MD breaks up for the last time the entire fandom will be waiting and watching. That's when the show will be at its peak. That will be the perfect moment to bring in MacRileyâs arc to a new start!
Congrats if you stuck with me through this whole thing! if you agree/disgaree with any of these or have other reasons why they could be endgame in s5 let me know!!
#MacGyver#Angus MacGyver#macgyvercbs#Riley davis#macriley#cbs#macxriley#macriley is endgame#otp#wilt bozer#Matilda webber#Lucas till#Tristin Mays#cbsmacgyer#russ taylor#macisback#macgyver season 5
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I agree with Kishimoto never trying to use the girls. The hate they get is not fair. I used to defend Sakura back in the days because I hoped kishi would do her justice. When shippuden started I WAS SO HAPPY because I thought this was the start of something great for Sakura and the girls but NOOOOO. Every time, Sasuke showed kishi turned her brainless. If you compare Naruto's actions and Sakura's actions to sasuke, you'd see they're completely different. What's up with that weird fake love confession scene đ? It makes her look like she was manipulating Naru. JEEZ.
Also he literally had badass Tenten and Temari with cool useful abilities and he didn't use them ?! TF ?! Thank god for modern authors who treat their characters with respect :)
okay2 you know how i am with these longass rants so click readmore and brace yourselves
The way I see it, Sakura's character development in shippuden was always one step forward, two steps back. She gets this really badass scene (like her fight with Sasori and those cool ass medical skills) but is then regressed back into a pining girl in love every time Sauce is on screen or Kishi just throws her in the background YET AGAIN.
I love Sakura's abilities actually. Her brute strength, intelligence, vast knowledge and skill as a medic nin. But what I dislike about her character is how kishi handled her feelings for Sasuke. Naruto and Sakura's obsession with Sasuke was so???? huh??? it was so damn toxic and i never once understood why both Nardo and Sak were so obsessed with him. They were a team for one year???? I mean its great that they care about him alot but Sauce's feelings were kinda valid. His freakin clan died. Id go batshit crazy against my own village too. BUT BESIDES THAT. Both Nart and Sakura's Sasuke obsession was so annoying. 80% of shippuden was literally Keeping up with the Uchihas or Naruto yelling SASUKEH. BUT what irks me so much is the fandom's double standards with both Naruto and Sakura. "Oh Sakura shouldve gotten over her Sasuke obsession" but then turn around and call Naruto's obsession cute and gush about how he's so in love with him!!
Hot take but the only reason why sasunaru is "the most developed ship with the most chemistry" is because theyre both male characters.
I guarantee you if Naruto was a girl and SHE would be the one to have this unhealthy obsession who was chasing around Sasuke, the fandom would shit on Naruto just as much. And if Sasuke were a girl, Sauce would be sidelined like the rest of the female cast and Naruto would have another male character to have a "brotherly bond" with, because thats the only bond Kishimoto is actually good at developing. Yey for male characters having all the screentime and cool assets <333
And about that confession scene, I get her intentions. I really do. I understand that she did that in order to bring him home and that she cares about him but honey, w-why?? Why lie to him about your feelings?? Supposed he DID believe her, then what? then what kishi???? huh??? Some of her fans point the blame on Sai or whatever but I personally dont see why that scene was at all necessary. Maybe to establish Naruto's feelings for her wasnt all that serious? or his maturity? idk man. That scene was such a clusterfuck.
In the end her development in The Last and in Boruto was immaculate. She had one of the best glow ups in the old gen and ironically enough, her character wasn't butchered in Boruto. She got badass scenes she was cheated from in shippuden. I also love how she's finally getting the spotlight she deserves. Unlike the other konoha 12 :,)))
Okay onto the next female character that Kishi completely wasted. My baby. My light. đ AAAHHH HINATAA.
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN OKAY2 DEEP BREATHS.
Let me just establish this real quick. Hinata's goal was to get stronger because of Naruto, her goal was never to be with Naruto. She wanted to become someone who is worthy enough to stand beside him, someone whom he can consider as an equal, as a partner. She NEVER once said "marrying Naruto-kun is my all time goal UwU" (if youre one of those weirdos who interpret her character that way, youre immediately invalid, go take a hike)
I personally dont have anything against their crushes but to the point of making their personalities revolve around these guys every time theyre onscreen is so fucking frustrating. And with the way he writes their dialogues is so.damn.cringey. Like that one scene in the war arc with Tsunade and Madara
"I mAy bE a WomAn but I aM nOt WeAAKKKK"
BAAHAHAAHHA WHAT?? Everyone else gets coolass monologues and one liners but thats the best you can come up with Kishi?????? Hilarious.
If im being honest. Hinata's character is actually kinda well written. Not well executed. Dear God no. But with the way he set her story, her personality, her chracterization. She's honestly one of the best written female characters on the show. IMO. By Kishi's standards of writing women ofc. She's hands down one of the most complex characters. Her shy personality wasnt out of the blue, it wasnt a cutesy waifu trait. Her abusive upbringing made her that way. Her trauma turned her that way. So yeah, sue her if she looked up to Naruto as an inspiration when everyone else in her family treated her like dust. Shit on her for having Naruto's love light in her dark when her own damn father wouldnt even look her in the eye and her entire clan shunned her because she was "weak." She doesnt owe her family shit so idgaf what they do with the Hyuga clan. Neji and Hanabi aren't included btw
Im not gonna deny that her role in the show was only as the love interest but tbh for a love interest, Im glad her character wasnt so one dimensional. It just pains me SO MUCHHH how fucking wasted she is. Every time she's with Naruto, they always make her into a damsel in distress. They always feel the need to turn Naruto into the heroic prince. How cute.
LIKE THAT ONE SCENE IN THE LAST WHERE SHE'S THROWN IN THE CAGE?? WHY??? LET NARUTO AND HINA FIGHT THAT FREAKING ALIEN GOD TOGETHER. QUIT WITH THE TOXIC MASCULINITY. WE GET IT. NARUTO'S STRONG. GOOD FOR HIM. NOW LETS SEE HINATA THROW HANDS AND PUT NARUTO IN THE CAGE GODAMMIT
Hnggggg dont get me started with her role in Boruto. She's as relevant as a damn houseplant in the manga. They made her into an invisible trophy wife and "the mc's mother" and we all KNOW what happens to the shounen mc's mother once mc is in need of character development :) Quit putting her in the background. Give us that scene where she won against Hanabi DESPITE being retired for years. Give us that scene where she trains Boruto. GIVE US ANY FIGHT SCENE OF HER WHERE HER POTENTIAL ISNT WASTED WTF?Âż
Now if you say that Hinata didnt have development. YOURE INVALID. She came from an abusive household, the shyest girl in her class, her insecurities got in the way of her own confidence, had difficulty of standing up for herself now became a loving mother of two, has the guts to kick her husband out of the house(with whom she couldnt even keep eye contact with when she was a kid) became the strongest hyuga, most supportive wife and mother, and has given her kids the comforting childhood she never had as a kid.
She has one of the most beautiful stories in the show and if you think her personality is only Naruto-kun and big boobs, then im sorry that you cant appreciate such a heartwarming story.
And I agree, killing her would honestly make me feel more at ease than continue to see her suffer because of godawful misogynistic writers. But at least let her die in an epic fight. Please. PLEASEE. She got nerfed so bad, i feel a physical pain every time i think about it
Okay what else. I think Ino got pretty good development. Another wasted potential in shippuden but she's doing good for herself in Boruto. I dont know what Temari is up to. They basically made her into another classic angry mom who beats up her husband for comedy trope. Haha very funny and original! Im not sure with her career, im not that invested in the anime.
Tenten??
oh G O D Tenten. The dirtiest of all. Her jokes about her screentime is so mean and i hate that its true ahsjhs. She was the only female character in OG who's goal wanted to be as strong as Tsunade but what did Kishi do to her?? Sidelined. Forgotten. Irrelevant. Like every damn female on the show :D
Konan shouldnt have died. I blame plot armor. I know in my heart that Konan wouldve kicked Obito's ass if it weren't for Kishi's boomer mindset.
Tsunade had so much hype when she was introduced but died down in the war arc. Madara wiped the floor with the kages. Holy shit. Not only that, but yipee! Naruto is there to save the day AGAIN!!!!
AND UGHHHH If the female characters were given proper treatment then maybe MAYBE all the endgame couples wouldve made fucking sense????¿¿¿
I think that ends my rant. Im not sure how the female characters in Boruto are handled. Except maybe Sarada (she's pretty well executed in the manga imo). But arguably they are sooo much better handled in Boruto than how the old gen girls were. And thats because Kishi isnt anywhere near the new gen female cast. I cant formulate a solid opinion with the other new gen female cast since im not entirely invested in the anime. Not ashamed to admit that I only watch it for the sunshine moments and for Hinata :DD
#and *scene#salty char.txt#char complains about Naruto AGAIN#yey#please end my suffering#i need to leave this fandom what am i still doing here#naruto#day 202 of WTF KISHI#i think i got that out of my system
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was gonna try and do multiple characters in one post but nope! i have too much to say. also the pictures are all different sizes so its rly hard to get the photoset to look appealing, so weâre starting w/ blue. and also a colored pic of what adam looks like when heâs not a deer. boyâs tryin not to stand out. which goes great up for him right up until it doesnât. lmao. iâll talk a bit about him too w/ stuff that didnt get mentioned in the starter post about him and gansey, but this is mostly gonna be about blue.Â
SO.Â
thereâs this fey entity, right? i donât have a name for them, but theyâre not...they didnt START the fey/human conflict, but they are benefiting from it, politically speaking? and when maura was younger, despite other witches being like âgirl dont choose sides, weâre witches, we guard boundaries but we donât choose sides,â was hotheaded and brash and went âok but fuck that thoughâ and one thing led to another and she ended up getting a curse on her firstborn. Oops. thatâs where the kissing curse comes from, here; iâll get into that much later in a text post probably but ganseyâs survivorâs guilt thing doesnt come from him actually dying in this au itâs from something Else, but blue will still kill him if she kisses him, just, for different reasons, itâs an actual curse this time and not something to do with the nature of who they both are.Â
her fatherâs still a tree light, but like, she actually knows that from the outset? because. they live in cabeswater. the tree lights are all around and accept her as one of their own even if she canât turn into a tree, and as a result of that, sheâs got some cool perks.Â
a) extremely resistant and/or outright immune to a Lot of fey bullshitÂ
b) still boosts psychic energies and magical powers like in canon
c) the absolute safest person to be traveling in cabeswater ever, because the forest itself loves her, and also if you mess with her within the borders of cabeswater a bunch of tree lights will physically manifest and be like âhey buddy wanna think twice about thatâ
but she canât use magic herself, still, which actually works in the favor of herself and the coven--witchcraft is in a sort of weird spot, culturally, where itâs both feared and often hated, but also understood to at times be necessary, especially by rural peoples like those of the village. im taking a very discworld spin on the witchcraft, because i love discworld and you canât stop me, and so the attitude is, like. its frightening ancient magic and the church hates it but when thereâs an emergency and someoneâs on the border between life and death, or something is trying to pass into this world from another, etc etc etc, then you gotta suck it up and call on a witch because theyâre the only ones who can deal with those things. so. the coven is tolerated, both because itâs too big and powerful to actually fight but also because itâs extremely needed when you live in a village right next door to fey lands. you NEED someone watching the border. however that doesnât mean anyone wants to be seen publicly talking to a witch--but blueâs not a witch. sheâs a witchâs daughter, but sheâs not a witch herself, which is a step removed enough that she can go into town and run errands and also people will maybe pull her discretely aside and tell her if somethingâs coming up that the coven should know about, and it all works very neatly with her acting as a sort of liaison. very important role she plays, which is why gansey tries talking to her after his initial attempt to speak with the coven directly fails.Â
speaking of the coven itself: iâve been calling it the fox way coven, even tho it probably wouldnât be called that because thereâs no road called fox way that the coven is built on, itâs a big magic house out in the fairy forest, BUT they do have a fox theme because i love foxes and this is a gift i have been given. if people have familiars in this coven, theyâre foxes rather than cats, because as wonderful as cats are u cant have them and foxes in the same house that will go bad. but also thereâs a v small number of them, like maybe three or four total out of the much higher number of women living there, who are fey blooded like adam, but who become foxes rather than adamâs deer. persephone is one of these! (itâs worth noting the reason why they become the same animal is because of a combination of coincidence, intentional theming, and mostly just because like, virtually all of the residents there aside from persephone are related to either maura or calla)Â
anyway the point is, because of this, blueâd seen enough feyblood transformations that when, one day when she was 9 or 10, on a visit to town, she saw the most distressed, disoriented fawn wobbling around frantically and was able to very quickly recognize that that was, in fact, a person who had probably turned into a deer for the first time, and responded by very calmly informing him that she knew who could help and leading him home. this is where those last two pictures come from, and how adamâs apprenticeship started.Â
like, there was a lot of arguing from the witches immediately--of course weâre going to teach him how to become human again but we arenât really going to take him on in the coven are we? heâs a boy, heâs some local kid we know nothing about, what happened to keeping it in the family, heâs the wrong animal and weâve got a whole thing going on--at which point persephone parted everyone like the red sea, took one look at adam, went âmine nowâ and despite a lot of grumbling that was the end of it. she took him on a bit of a tour of cabeswater a few days later, after heâd had time to think it over, and he felt so drawn to the forest that he agreed to the apprenticeship.
so heâs technically persephoneâs apprentice but like in actual practice heâs being taught by the entire coven lmao, ANYWAY
adam being adam also had a backup plan for trying to get out of the village--even at ten he figured witchcraft might be a first way out of there, he was already thinking about it, but by thirteen when the good ole abuse started (and at which point the last whispers of dissent died out very quickly amongst the coven, nope, adam is one of us now, do you want us to very threateningly hang out in your front yard sometime because we can do that--what do you mean no, let us do this,) he was also like. i dont think this is a guarantee of getting out of here i need a second job. and the thing is, as was mentioned in the original post, the fey blood also means adamâs got issues with iron; itâll poison him if heâs stabbed with it but it also reacts to his skin touching it like a hot stove. heâs fine if thereâs a layer between his skin and the iron, but if he touches it directly, itâs Bad. so ofc this headstrong idiot takes an open spot a t a metalworkerâs in the village because adam is the king of making bad decisions. the witches have a betting pool on how long itâll take him to out himself. âits fine iâll wear gloves,â he says. âitâs the perfect disguise no one will expect someone with fey connections to work near so much iron,â he says. âi have everything perfectly under control,â he says.
anyway he totally forgets to wear gloves before grabbing an iron tool while his dad and his boss are both in the store and in clear view of him and thatâs why he was getting chased by hunters when gansey rescued himÂ
also he and blue tried dating when they were like 13-14 and it ended about as badly as in canon and they made up later and by the time the story starts theyâve settled into very much being weird siblings. adam starts hanging out with gansey initially to try and basically spy on him, figure out why heâs here, but ends up rly liking the guy and deciding his reasons are sincerely to try and help people, and he tells this to blue who starts immediately accusing him of having a crush on the lordling and being a class traitor, because she does NOT like gansey at this point and really the nobility all prefer wizards to witches which is a stupid idiot decision and frankly the fact that this lordling is apparently enamored by some random deer is hilarious to her, but even moreso is the fact that adam actually defends the lordling to her, like, âwow adam its hilarious that the lordlingâs friend thinks that you have charmed the lordling because from my perspective it looks the other way aroundâ âshut uuuup youâre not listening im serious, like, yeah ok he put his foot in his mouth really hard when he talked to you but im telling you i dont think the whole i-wanna-understand thing is an actâ âidk if i can trust you through those rose tinted glasses buddy. tell me again about that time he called you princely?â âoh my godâÂ
this is turning into rambling but. thats the gist of the witches and blue esp thank u for coming if u made it this far hereâs a bonus persephone foxÂ
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alright hereâs how Iâd rewrite Infinite and ergo some of the plot points of the games story.. it got long i got a little carried away lol........................Â
Infiniteâs name probably isnât that before he becomes a tool of destruction thing but I donât care all that much to name him something else rnÂ
he also doesnât have a sword because thatâs really not necessary and I donât know how to make that relevant at allÂ
forget the mercenary thing because it makes no sense that he was âhiredâ by eggman and thatâs also boring. The jackal squad is a nomadic, robin hood type group that steals from bad folks to help other animal people villages in needÂ
to make character relationships.. matter a little bit more, OC is a long time childhood friend of Infinite and they still see one another a decent amount despite the jackals moving around
I donât really care how or why the phantom ruby exists in fact Iâm just realizing thereâs a huge discontinuity because according to the COMIC it just.. existed arbitrarily like a chaos emerald, but according to the GAME it seems to be something Eggman fabricated, since thereâs âprototypesâ in play??? hm hm okay you know what Iâm feeling ambitious letâs make both make sense. There is one true phantom ruby that exists, eggman finds it, where ever I donât care. some legend about, this ruby can bring your ultimate fantasies to life! EXCEPT you need to have, idk, a good heart, a heart of gold, to use it and eggman doesnt have that so he can see the illusion of his empire but it wont become realityÂ
eggman thinks okay well, maybe if I fabricate copies of it I can make a version that will work, which I reckon doesnât make them âprototypesâ anymore but just, copies, but close enough. however, they still donât workÂ
now cut to jackal squad raiding eggman for his cool shit. maybe they catch wind about this whole âbring your fantasies to lifeâ power and want to use it for good and they know eggmans vibes are rancid. in any case the jackals make off with a ruby (a FAKE one uh oh!) but not without infinite losing an eye and gaining one big unsightly scar from a fight w/ eggman and heâs like Shook about that but heâs like hm well at least I stopped that terrible guy from harnessing this power (oh no bitch u thought..)Â
of course the jackals dont keep their spoils but WHO ever could be trusted with this legendary gem thing?!? oh none other than You, Original The Character, aka Infiniteâs best friend .............. so he gives the ruby to OC and tells them like, idk allegedly this can make ur dreams come true but I donât know how it works...oh my eye? yeah I sure used to have two of those but dont worry about it, anyway ttyl stay fresh *saunters off, jackaly*Â
because the fake!ruby is.. fake, it just seems to be a dud at first so OC just hangs onto it as a keepsakeÂ
eggman, pissed about his shit getting stolen and worried what could be done with it sends robots out to hunt down infinite, kidnap him, and drag him back to eggmanâs base and demand the fake!ruby back. infinite naturally refuses to tell him anything especially at the cost of putting OC in danger, so heâs like, blow it out your ass
eggman is like HAHA WELL U DUMB SHIT you stole a fake anyway and I have the real one right here.. he uses the ruby to suddenly spawn a bunch of robots and infinite braces himself for the attack... except they go right through him because theyâre just illusions. eggman is like FUCK !! DAMMIT! WHY WONT THIS SHIT WORK!! Infinite uses eggmanâs tantrum time to rush in to snatch the ruby. when infinite touches it as its in eggmanâs hand, however, all the illusion robots become ârealâ (probably conveying this through effects/opacity), taking them both by surprise. infinite is unable to take the ruby before getting hit with a full force attack from a robotÂ
infinite is incapacitated and eggman grins, like, inch resting...................... you seem to be able to make the ruby work... I will now use you for malicious purposes >:) (cut to black)Â
NOW when Infinite is in the tube, 1) he already has his mask because the scene with him putting it on and monologueing about abandoning his old identity is unnecessary, itâs more symbolic here, 2) heâs amnesic and I know we did that with shadow already and I donât mean to overuse it, but I think it works well enough in a different way for this story! Shadow had some fragments of memories and an identity crisis, but with Infinite, his memory is completely wiped (or perhaps suppressed?) and his only understanding of himself is that he was âcreatedâ to work for eggman. Even MORE importantly! the stakes are raised because of Infiniteâs relationship to the OC--Infinite cannot remember them which makes attacking them a lot more heart wrenching ESPECIALLY when we get to a point where OC begins to recognize their brainwashed best friend using one of the (apparently) very same rubies given to OC to try to destroy them with
this also adds more tension to all the scenes where Infinite is taunting and threatening OC on a quite personal , rivalry-like level? Infinite would, over time, begin to get an inexplicable sense of familiarity with OC, which causes him to hesitate and hold backÂ
oh and as for the fake!ruby, OC does use it to defend himself just like the first time! it ends up being successfully activated because OC shows a strong will to protect the other civilians. if you havenât caught on to my cheese, both OC and Infinite have hearts of gold and thats why they can use the rubies. eggman is cheating though by fusing Infinite to the ruby and using him as a proxy for his bad will..... and again, coming back to the cheese, Infiniteâs heart cannot be changed and he is not truly âevilâ so thatâs like, how this is workingÂ
Iâm way too lazy to fix everything scene by scene because thereâs also just SO MUCH wrong with all the other characters and plot but Iâm just focusing on fixing Infinite and making him more interesting so Iâm skipping to the end.. Â
Iâm not entirely sure how Iâd order the bosses and what Iâd wanna do with the eggman robot phases the whole things was a big mess............I kinda wanna go with what I THOUGHT was going to happen after beating up giant robot thing and then that squid robot breaks out??? and I thought it was going to be Infinite cause that would be much more dramatic? So lets go with that---When Eggman says like, well fuck infinite who needs him? i harnessed the power of the ruby into my robot, he means he literally trapped Infinite in it like, wired up and shit to use him like a power generator. fucked up. Infinite breaks out after that phase of the battle, and heâs like, in so much pain and glitched out on overclocked energy he cant even control what heâs doing.... commence TRUE final boss battle (it can still be a tagteam with sonic), and itâs sad and dramatic! OC pleads (or I reckon sonic, maybe the other heroes too since they talk during fights! like since OC doesnt talk) infinite to remember his true self because they dont want to destroy himÂ
once youâve depleted his health bar, Iâm going to go ahead and use the gameâs weird addition of quicktime events to fuel more cheesiness (B/C THIS IS SONIC...WHY DID THEIR âPOWER OF FRIENDSHIPâ MORAL END ON SUCH A BLAND, UNEMOTIONAL NOTE IN FORCES??? shadow didnt fall to his (alleged) death in sa2 for this..............) and you quicktime OC HUGGING Infinite, like jumping towards him and grabbing him in an embrace type of thing! and when OC makes contact with the ruby, it activates, making all the probably hostile glitchy battle terrain or whatever dissipate, infinite stops being like.. idk lookin like heâs being electrocuted, and his mask fades away .. exposing Infinite as his true self once againÂ
the in between the lines intent here, again since OC doesnât talk, is that OCâs fantasy was to bring Infinite back so they could be together again. youâre welcome to interpret that as romantic, or platonic, it doesnât matter! itâs open ended! itâs just supposed to be cute! Â
idk and then emotional stuff, Iâm not entirely sure what it doesnât really matter the idea is that Infinite is like, remorseful of what happened but everyone ofc forgives him because itâs not his fault , and then he joins up with with everyone to help fix the world! hmm Iâm torn between Infinite keeping the true phantom ruby or giving it to the OC, like giving it to the OC makes sense, but for the sake of like, hypothetically bringing Infinite back in a future game and having special powers, it would be perfect if he kept it and that was his thing, he uses the power of virtual reality to help people and fight evil and whatever Â
I dont know I guess thereâs not a lot of sense in thinking too hard since I just remembered none of this is canon whatsoever and weâre probably not seeing Infinite again unless as a stock evil thing to beat up like metal sonic 8â˛)Â
I have no idea who i wrote this for I guess myself! Idk if anyone else played forces or cares or w/e but! if you DO happen to be someone who read this and cares about it omg well like feel free to! comment and tell me what you think!!! this was all very stream of thought
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just a little racial processing
i am white and i have racism ingrained pretty deeply, not in that i dislike black people or other races but in that i really do fr think of white ppl as being the default, and what i do to combat that in my own life is i sit on social media and i stare at and like and reblog pics of black people because i want to change my perception because my perception is SMALL. i especially do this with pics of black people doing super normal things bc i feel like they are really exoticized in the media, either as hooligans or hard-living heroes... instead of just normal people enjoying freedom and prosperity, learning things, etc. i know that black ppl have unique stories and normalcy for them doesnt always match normalcy for white ppl but basic human things are really important to see.Â
i have also become more aware of the concept of generational wealth and how black ppl were all set up to start building it after slavery until the jim crow laws came around and strangled that possibility. i have NOT been PROACTIVE or ACTIVE about any of this but at least i am Aware of it. i do not make any conscious efforts to support black small businessppl over others but i really think that is because that isnt an area that gets a lot of my attention in general, bc im kind of overwhelmed by consumerism and i dont have a clear idea of whats going on with my own money and buying deliberately intimidates me. buying purposefully from black owned businesses is always something i think im going to do more of in the future haha.
but also, in my consuming images/content/whatever passively on social media, the idea of wealth and generational wealth being important specifically to black people (less so to white ppl, so many of whom have it...not all but so many including my momâs family...NOT my dadâs at all but totally my moms) has made it so i consume w/ interest and support media where black people are talking about money and financial literacy and entrepreneurship. that is an area i view as a different lens from how i view the same topic with white people. #blackownedbusiness is a really powerful concept and i feel responsibility as a consumer to support it, but i havent really yet.
i feel like my perspective is basically pretty balanced. i know how it feels to be racist in the passive, ignorant way and i know how it feels for education to change my perspectives. i get it when black people say they just want to live and they dont want to explain themselves over and over, that theyâre not white peopleâs teachers. i have heard them ask white people to step up and do that. so that is something i have done a LITTLE of. i am better at communicating than buying, i am like quite good at it. like when i worked for a coffee shop i was SO good at harmonizing w/ petty customers b/c i sort of am a petty customer lol. so i feel like that is a role i can step into and excel in... helping ignorant white people learn. i feel like my voice is uniquely harmonious and nonaccusatory.
im not interested in converting majorly racist people. there are MORE just passively racist ppl, and theyâre more dangerous in some ways, and also theyâre way easier for me personally to work with. i dont have the everyday exhaustion of dealing with pplâs ignorance so i have leftover energy to engage with it directly.Â
i think that racism and otherism is at the core of all the wounds in the world right now. there are leftover tribal fears that have never been worked through, all over the world. in america of course there are all kinds of different racisms but the main one is black ppl vs white ppl.Â
1. black ppl are formerly enslaved so thatâs hard for white people to deal with in the first place b/c itâs hard to deal with your own bad karma, itâs hard to face the fact that you live well because you subjugated humans (you as a social group, not personally... although of course many things in my life are good becasue of the benefits to my ancestors and my social group). honestly, slaveholder/colonialist karma is nasty. itâs trauma...itâs its own kind of trauma. im not saying slaveowner/colonialist people should be thought of as innocent victims bc they are traumatized bc of the shitty thing they did. im just describing the situation... they have fucked up stuff that needs safe processing as well, we are all connected and when we hurt others, we also hurt ourselves.
2. black people are visibly different from white ppl moreso than other races are (thats a generalization but, idk skin is a large and very visible organ and pigment is really visible and itâs easier to visually âotherizeâ ppl for being dark, also hair texture is very visible) so they are very easy to âcodeâ as âother.â physical responses are very base and subconscious and the body learns them, so itâs super easy for the body to develop prejudices b/c of social behavior, and then the mind just goes ahead and encodes them like it always does lol. going off of this point, i recentlyish (march) started listening to nina simone... this is how fucking ignorant i am, she is basically the first black person to artistically touch me deeply and directly (aside from victor wootenâs book). and she is so black, like very very dark, and all of her facial features are distinctive to black people. and to hear her state plainly that she thinks black people are the most beautiful people in the world ... also to see her face saying that... it helps my body unlearn things. on the one hand it sucks that we have prejudice in our society so engrained that literally someoneâs face can be an act of defiance. on the other hand, holy shit, how amazing is it that someoneâs radiant fucking face can have the power to heal social wounds. not totally heal, but contribute to them.Â
3. LBJ and fucking nixon and all of those assholes, all of these fucking laws, law enforcers, government planted conspiracy theories in place to keep white people hatig black people and perceiving them as criminals, and also, strangling black peopleâs efforts at gaining wealth and grounding themselves in society so so much energy had to get redirected into shitty unrewarding labor and also crime (though crime rates have been exaggerated) like... and then the deliberate assassination of ALL the black builders of self esteem in the 60s 70s (80s?)... racist forces have been AT! WORK! HARD AT FUCKING WORK! FOR A WHILE! so of course we have racist wounds bc they were NOT fucking worked through after the civil war and in fact they were like nursed open and made to be infected because the stupid ass government thought racism was necessary for society to run. on the one hand, that SUCKS and itâs SHITTY.....
.............On the other hand itâs the most hopeful thing EVER.... because they worked so hard to keep us apart from each other. like really hard. do u know what that means?
--A. itâs a justification that humanity and brotherhood is powerful as. fuck.
--B. itâs an acknowledgment that ... people have to work really hard to keep us the fuck apart from each other. really hard.
the internet is going to make it impossible for us to keep hating each other. things are going to happen and they are going to be good. but we have to do it, we have to inhabit it. we have to be present for and communicative of the changes that happen inside us, so others can see it and harmonize. harmonization makes things louder.
hmmmmmm.
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anyway iâm still thinkin about roceit newsies au...this got SO LONG its basically a bullet fic of the whole plot at this point but uh enjoy!!! its has all the sides and remy and emile bc i rly wanted to shove them all in here aldkaldka
this is based on the musical mostly bc i have never watched the original movie all the way thru oops
roman is jack and remus is crutchie (thanks boop). remus does crazy stunts even with his crutch and roman is Constantly Worried TM and overprotective of remus even tho remus can DEF take care of himself
on the other hand remus knows roman hates working as a newsboy and just wants to escape to some small town where he can become a local artist of some sort. remus wants roman to go CHASE his DREAMS even tho heâs afraid roman might leave him behind
roman may be the actor but remus is great at coming up with gruesome yet intriguing headlines that get people to buy papers and would totally be a great author of some sort
ON THAT NOTE roman dreams of santa fe and can picture it perfectly but whenever he tries to explain it, it comes out as senseless rambling and longing. itâs remus who can really put into words what roman feels (bc theyre bros and they just GET each other)
virgil as davey, patton as les, logan as sarah (its the musical but they have an extra sibling okay. let me have older brother logan)
virgil and patton show up and virgil is super untrusting and hates that theyre basically lying to get people to buy papers but patton is just EXCITED to meet New People!!! and looks up to roman (and remus), like, instantly
it helps that roman promises to take them to a real actual theater after they sell all their papers owned by the one the only emile picani !!!
also roman is the one who first calls him âvirgeâ which is like jack saying âdaveyâ instead of david. yes this is necessary information
so they sell their papers (and roman briefly meets an ESPECIALLY handsome guy wink wink) and go see emile who performs some variant of Thatâs Rich like the star he is. u cant take singer emile away from me
roman also performs bc i said so. he spies someone watching him during his act up above the stage and climbs up there when heâs done
janus. its janus, if that wasnt clear or u dont know the plot of the newsies musical aldkaldlal
so yeah janus as katherine!! he may be pulitzerâs son but that doesnât mean his father wants him to be a journalist. pulitzer thinks he should prepare to inherit the publishing company or be a banker or smth, not be a journalist
i just think janusâ âsociety is a LIEâ vibe fits with katherine. i mean, just look at Watch What Happens. âgive lifeâs little guys some ink,â âtheyâll storm the gates,â ârich greedy sourpussesâ .... idk it just SCREAMS janus to me
ALSO, katherine technically lies about her identity for like 3/4 of the musical, so
anyway! roman meets janus and janus is all suave and lowkey flirty at first but then roman starts flirting BACK and jan is like âuh oh how to talk to cute boys????â
so then he gets all âi have more important things to doâ *hair flip* and goes back to the article heâs supposed to be writing about emileâs theater (a lot of his notes are about romanâs performance but nobody needs to know that shhh)
roman draws a portrait of jan and leaves it there and janus gently & dramatically picks it up, stares at it, and tucks it into his suit with a soft smile
uh oh prices for papers went up! virgil steps up and helps roman lead a strike. turns out his caution works GREAT with romanâs determination and they keep each other from going towards extreme overthinking (virgil) or extreme stupidity (roman). they are a TEAM and they are BESTIES.
remus: lets SET THE PAPERS ON FIRE
roman, starry eyed: HECK YEAH LETS DO IT
virgil: how about we dont do that and instead form a union
and then the twins are like GOOD IDEA and tell everyone else. virgil may be a cautious and untrusting and afraid of public speaking but he has good ideas dangit
the intro to seize the day yknow? virgil says a Good Idea (which can probably be traced back to him always listening to logan rant about his studies) and roman spreads the message in a Firm Rebellion-y way to the other newsies
and patton is there doing his absolute best. he may be small but he knows that this isnât right or fair to the newsboys and heâs ready to physically fight someone
enter logan who is lowkey really proud of virgil for stepping outside of his comfort zone to do whats right. logan may be scared out of his mind for his little bros but heâs gonna help them as much as he can between college and trying to work side jobs to help their fam
basically logan knows janus and tells him that he should report on the strike bc logan wants to help his bros AND his friend however he can
cue janus seeing his opportunity and TAKING it. heâs gonna write about this strike even if no one else will!!! take THAT, father
he also maybe possibly wanted to see roman again. but roman never needs to know that okay what he doesnt know cant hurt him
seize the day happens!!!! they strike!!!! they r powerful!!! but then no one else from any other sections of new york strike with them and they lowkey get rekt
remus mocks the delanceys but that was a BAD decision cuz now theyre targeting him and he gets taken to the REFUGE
roman is SAD bc his brotherâs been taken away, no one showed up to help them strike, his brotherâs been taken away and he just wants to get OUT of there. run away to santa fe, his ideal world, but he canât even articulate that because his brother is gone
how is that just act one. how have i written so much yet left out so much???
remus is at the refuge and heâs a little more scared, now, that roman really will just leave him behind even though he knows deep down that roman would never.
still. he writes roman a letter and maybe he goes into a little too much detail about his injuries and the refuge but hey, thatâs remus. he writes about how maybe they can run away to santa fe together. he signs it âyour brotherâ and i CRY because they are the best bros
roman reads it and ALSO cries. especially because there it is, the description of santa fe he can never come up with by himself. remus rly does know him, huh
total scene change: janus finds the other newsies (and logan) in a restaurant? bar? and is like â!!! ur on the FRONT PAGE on my newspaperâ which i just decided is called the snake instead of the sun
virgil didnât totally trust janus would follow thru at first but now heâs convinced. they did it!!!! theyre on the front page!!!! the world WILL know!!!!
cue tapdancing!!!!!! king of new york is an absolute bop. i need logan tapdancing daintily and then janus LAUNCHING into some complex tap routine bc the newsies think he too will dance daintily
i know they wouldnt,,, actually dance but just let me have this self-indulgence in this entirely self-indulgent au
the Bro Trio + janus go hunt down roman to show him the paper and find him painting stuff at emileâs all sad and upset bc, well, they lost and remus was taken
but virgil is trying to show him that they made progress!!! sure pulitzer won but he won the BATTLE and actually the poor guyâs head is spinning bc theyre gonna win.
âcmon, ro, if iâm is telling you to be optimistic there must be hopeâ
see virgil calls him RO and its cute bc roman gave him the nickname âvirgeâ and now virgilâs giving him the nickname âroâ theyre just besties okay
roman is unconvinced but then logan, who roman has actually never met before, steps in with Facts and Statistics, and patton adds some adorable words of encouragement, and janus sassily waves their Front Page Story at him, and roman starts realizing they DO have a chance
but then uh oh pulitzer threatens remus and the Bro Trio and roman is forced to speak out against the strike or risk ruining the lives of everyone he loves. and also he finds out that janus is pulitzerâs son and is Betrayed TM
theres some âheâs just trying to build up a false confidence in u so u can plummet to even greater depthsâ parallels in there somewhere....u canât trust many people as a newsie and when roman DOES trust someone turns out heâs the son of the guy ur trying to fight
so roman says overnight in pulitzerâs basement, sleeping on an uncomfortable old printing press, and makes his decision
now for the RALLY
remy is spot conlon bc he DESERVES to be the leader of the brooklyn newsies. brooklyn, flushing, richmond, etc all show up to a newsies rally and are like YEAH!!! STRIKE!!!!
virgil is trying to tame the crowd nervously and keeps waiting for roman to show up bc they work best when theyre working together!!!! finally romanâs there and virgil introduces him (the attention isnt solely on him now thank gosh)
but then roman starts talking about how they dont stand a chance and how they shouldnt go on strike and virgil is just. confused and upset and angry
especially when he sees one of pulitzerâs employees slipping roman wads of money
virgil corners roman afterwards and is absolutely RIPPING into him. roman could fix this if he would just tell virgil the truth, tell him he doesnât care about the money, he just wanted to keep him and patton and logan safeâ
but roman knows if he tells virgil, then virgil will turn all his anger towards pulitzer, will be able to convince roman to keep going, and roman wonât. he canât put virgil, put his family, at risk.
so he lies.
he doesnât mean any of it. but he says it.
and maybe he kind of understands why janus lied, too.
he says heâs never had anyone to take care of him or remus, not like virgil does with his parents and his older brother. he says virgil will never know what itâs like.
virgil scoffs and glares and beneath all his fury looks crushed. but thereâs still fire in his eyes, a spark roman saw that first day that only grew and engulfed any doubts virgil ever had.
roman says heâll take the money and go, leave new york behind.
virgil says fine. we donât need you. because you know what? all those words you said were mine. i didnât have the courage to say them back then but now i do. we donât need you.
(because i watched that scene in the movie and like YES go OFF davey i mean virgil)
roman flees to his âbedroomâ which is really just a fire escape and just longs for remusâ reassurance. he has the letter but it doesnât seem as encouraging now, not when heâs lost everything else important to him.
then janus shows up and romanâs mad at him but not mad enough to kick him out. and janus watched roman just give up on everything theyâve been fighting for and just wants to know WHY. why did he turn his back on the newsies when they were so close?
and roman, tired and upset and defeated, just says they wouldnât succeed. even if all the newsies went on strike no one would report on it, anyway, because pultizer has all the printing presses on lockdown, even the one janus published from. and they already lost once! what more could they possibly do?
roman looks out over the railing, chest heaving from his rant, longing for his imaginary santa fe where he doesnât have to face his failures. janus stands next to him and puts his hand over romanâs.
âi donât have a simple answer to that question....but hereâs a start.â
and janus pulls out a paper with romanâs words (well, and virgilâs, because virgil said it first but roman rephrased it powerfully, and thatâs why they worked as a team) typed out, words that make the strike not about newsies but about ALL working children in the city who are being exploited for their youth and naivety.
itâs an entire article, expertly written. if published it would get the word out to the other newsies that they havenât given up and show other working children and adults alike that this is IMPORTANT and they arenât going away.
and then roman remembers his drawings of the refuge and remusâ graphic descriptions and shows them to janus and hey!!! they have a plan!!! they just need to print it....
romanâs like yo thereâs an old press in ur dadâs basement heâd never suspect anything
and theyre both so excited and theyre gonna DO this, FINALLY, and janus sees hope on romanâs face again, maybe permanently this time, and janus just leans in and kisses him.
its very sweet and cute and theyre in LOVE
they pull back and kinda stand there awkwardly for a few seconds before both of them start grinning
and they both know its fragile, that theyâve hurt each other and trust was cracked, but it wasnât broken completely, and they can fix this. they believe in each other and thatâs enough for now.
and then they go find virgil at his house
roman knocks on the door and virgil opens it and just. glares at roman. and roman starts rambling apologies and explanations and tries to tell virgil about their plan and did he mention heâs sorry
virgil kinda just stares at him as he goes on and on and the only thing that stops him is patton running out and launching himself at roman
then logan appears behind virgil, and virgil kinda just smiles
âglad to have u back. again.â
and then they go sneak into pulitzerâs basement and print the article with janâs writing and roâs drawings and remusâ descriptions and the other newsies go spread the papers ALL around the city
the next morning EVERYONE is out on strike!!! u cant get ANYWHERE without seeing ppl, newsies or otherwise, filling the streets with chants of âseize the dayâ
roman, with the Bro Trio and Janus trailing close behind, waltzs on in to pulitzerâs office and flings the money pulitzer gave him back on the desk and is like whatcha gonna do NOW, joe??
pulitzer angrily tells them heâs a fool for going back on their deal and logan steps in sayin pulitzer is a fool for letting this get so out of hand over a 10 cent price increase. his sales are down 70%!! objectively the price increase was like the worst business decision ever
virgilâs like plus itâs making u look bad that ur business is the reason most of these kids are suffering. people really love kids, mr pulitzer and patton smiles brightly but in like a menacing way
then emile walks in with a ~dazzling smile~ and is like ur son told me about this whole situation, itâd be a shame if i contacted my good friend governor roosevelt who wonât be as kind as these brave newsies since u tried so hard to stop him from being elected :)
((in the show roosevelt is actually there but i want emile to have a moment to SHINE))
so pulitzerâs like FINE and talks to roman alone and roman wears him down, throwing words from janus, virgil, and pulitzer himself right in pulitzerâs face until FINALLY they have a deal. heâll lower the prices by half AND pulitzer will buy back whatever they donât sell full price
roman bursts out of the office into the streets where all the newsies are waiting and is like WE WONNN
and since they published all that stuff about the refuge in the paper, the guy who runs it is being arrested and REMUS IS FREE
the twins hug for like a full two minutes
then pulitzer offers roman a job as a political cartoonist and romanâs like. well idk now that this is over i should probably...head out
bc lowkey heâs thinking virgil still doesnât wanna see roman ever again and he did say he would leave, so
but then virgilâs like come on, ro, you donât really think we want u to leave, do u? whatâs santa fe got that new york aint? tarantulas? sandstorms? stampedes? you canât go to santa fe what if you DIEâ
and logan says new yorkâs got us!
patton: and weâre family, right?
then janus is like you got a union to lead! and...you got me.
and remus is like bro, anyone can dream, all you do is close ur eyes! but some made up world is all youâll ever see. (bc heâs the wordsy one, u see. he helps roman have the poetic realization that his santa fe isnât real, but this IS)
so roman says well if u guys INSIST.....and then he takes janâs hand and kinda asks w his eyes and then kisses jan in front of all the newsies who proceed to cheer obnoxiously
when they break apart roman leads janus by the hand over to the paper-buying-cart and slaps some couns down on the table and BUYS SOME PAPERS BC THEYRE NEWSIES BABEY
and everyone lived happily ever afterđĽ°
#sanders sides#roceit#creativitwins#newsies#sanders sides fic#sanders sides fanfic#bullet fic#repost bc tumblr glitched hardcore#uhh anyway the original tags i had were smth like#âi rewatched newsies and i love it also i love jeremy jordan also stan newsies the musicalâ aldkaldla#roceit newsies au#donnie writes
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jumin route rewrite???
ive had.... Issues with jumin's route since the first time i played it and im waiting out a 3 hour layover which means its time to self indulgently fix all of those problems right now in excruciating detail
for the record, i dont mean any disrespect towards cheritz -- i love mysme dearly and this is purely a self indulgent experiment to see what my ideal jumin route would have been! if you like his route as is thats totally fine! it just wasnt for me lmao
this was super fun to write and if this picks up i might do another route rewrite (and i might do it even if it doesnt because it was just that fun lol)
anyways this is REALLY long (literally its like 3k words all in outline form) so its gonna go under the cut lol
okay so: issues i had with juminâs route that i want to address:
it moves WAY too fast â i mean all of the routes do to a certain degree; theyâre only 11 days long but like... youâre literally engaged to him by the end of it which iirc, is something that is only replicated in sevenâs normal ending (and even then i think its only implied?) and i get that the point is that jumin goes all out for the people he loves and is VERY certain that he loves you but it just feels... way too soon for my liking ESPECIALLY because youâre his first love! it just makes it feel like heâs caught up in the rush of being in love for the first time and isnât thinking things through which... isnât exactly the making of a great relationship lol. so for this re- write weâre gonna slow it WAY down because... oof.Â
the sarah and glam plot line happening concurrently with the mint eye/possessive jumin one makes the route feel overly busy. i actually have a similar issue with the echo girl/mint eye overlap in zenâs route but thatâs a topic for another day lol. so iâm gonna try to delineate between the two a bit more so thereâs less overlap.
SPEAKING OF possessive jumin lol... maybe its just my Personal Background bleeding in, but possessiveness is a really big red flag/trigger for me and i felt like it went WAY too far in his route. dgmw, i understand that its meant to be a character flaw and something heâs meant to overcome but i just feel like there are simpler ways to show that side of him without it becoming... as scary as it got. i wasnât sure how to deal with it though -- i think it would best be expressed through smaller actions and the minutia of dialogue with the others (e.g. jumin refusing to send a photo of you into the chat room when zen asks if youâre alright, locking up elizabeth, etc.)
the canon first kiss with jumin happening both without your explicit consent AND just to drive sarah away is.... icky to me. especially because he MAKES EYE CONTACT WITH SARAH while kissing you??? i hate that cg lol. it just takes what should be a moment about the two of you and turns it into him using you to prove a point and i donât like it at all. itâs not romantic and it feels... out of character for jumin to use someone he cares about like that. i have similar issues with the proposal happening right after he exposes glam and sarah. so lets make the kiss more genuine and nix the proposal entirely because it happens too quickly for comfort anyways.
with all of that in mind, i decided a fake dating plot would probably work best (and like i said, this is self indulgent and iâm a SUCKER for fake dating stories sooooo). it makes sure we hit all the beats of the glam/sarah plot line without shoving him and the mc into a relationship too quickly. it also means we can keep their first kiss as a big âfuck youâ to sarah, but this time mc gets to be 100% in on the joke AND they get to have a ârealâ first kiss later on! thatâs two (2!) kisses for the price of one folks.
i also decided that in order to streamline the plot a bit, the glam and sarah plot should end earlier, allowing for the mint eye plot to take center stage instead of being shoehorned in around a larger love triangle plot line. also glam and sarah are annoying and i donât want to deal with them for six full days. the only downside is we donât get to see v dunk on sarah at the party :-(
in lieu of a proposal for the necessary Big Romantic Gesture at the party, i thought it would be nice if jumin whisked you away from the party to paris or somewhere far away for a ridiculously extravagant first date literally in the middle of the party. not only is it ridiculously grandiose in and of itself, but in abandoning the party halfway through, it shows that jumin has grown into a more relaxed and spontaneous person through knowing you! heâs ready to throw caution to the wind and have fun with you (plus, Big Romantic Date cg!!)
day 5:
VN mode where we essentially get the exact same scene of chairman han telling jumin he wants him to marry sarah to make the merger with sugar round go more smoothly BUT this time jumin blurts out that heâs already with someone and that he didnât want to go public with it yet. he assumes his father wonât press further, given that theyâve always had a mutual respect for one anotherâs privacy, but at glamâs insistence, chairman han says he wants to meet juminâs partner. oh no!
jumin laments his situation to the rfa, resulting in pretty typical responses. zen laughs, yoosung is sympathetic but also kind of wishes it were just that simple for him to meet a wife. jaehee is worried that the inevitable fallout of this will result in more work for her. everything is business as usual until seven is like âur so rich why donât you just pay someone to pretend to date you lololâ and jumin (being, well, jumin) runs with it 100%. because they donât have time to vet candidates (theyâre supposed to have dinner with his dad tomorrow night!) he decides it should be someone he knows, but the majority of the other rfa members are already acquainted with his father via rfa events, making it more likely that he sees through the ruse. mc, however, has never met him, making them the perfect candidate! who would have thought lol
so they decide to move you into the penthouse that evening BUT before that can happen, they have to clear it with v because bomb, hacker, mint eye, etc. (yes this is how iâm choosing to do the bomb reveal lol). bonus, v gets to chide jumin about his dumb lie and we get a fun bff conversation with them!
final VN where you show up to the penthouse and you and jumin establish the parameters of your ârelationshipâ. you decide that youâll both sleep in his bed, just in case a cleaning staff member walks in and notices that he and his partner sleep separately and it ruins everything. establish what physical contact is and isnât cool, etc, etc. you also decide that when the time comes, youâre going to tell his dad that the entire debacle with sarah put so much strain on your relationship that you had to break up. the hope being that chairman han will feel so bad about ruining things for jumin that he wonât try to force him into something like that ever again.
days 6-8:
you have dinner with his dad and answer pretty typical âmeeting the parrentsâ questions. he asks what you guys did for your first date and jumin tells a 100% fake story about taking you to dinner on top of the eiffel tower and kissing you beneath the stars and the chairman is satisfied. that doesnât mean that glam and sarah are though. they decide to do some sleuthing to prove that you guys arenât really dating.
this is the fun part where we get to hit most of the beats of ur typical fake dating story! you and jumin get to know each other really well, albeit kind of superficially (favorite foods, fun childhood stories, etc. etc. nothing too heavy yet.) you guys cook together for the first time, cue cg of jumin with like... idk tomato sauce on his cheek or something. you watch a movie together and elizabeth falls asleep on your lap and jumin dies on spot idk
this is also where your first kiss happens, and pretty much in the same way except its much more mutual and he doesnât look at sarah this time because his focus is on trying to make it look like he doesnât even care that sheâs there because youâre the only thing he cares about. (which.... isnât actually hard for him to do at all)
chatrooms are pretty typical for this timeframe â you guys all know the drill. the other members are like âwow they seem really closeâ and speculate on whether or not you guys are actually together. zen is worried that jumin is going to force himself on you (wolves, etc.). yoosung is jealous that jumin gets to hang out with you. jaehee is upset that jumin is neglecting his work.
VAGUE mentions of weird activity on the messenger, but nothing too serious sounding. just enough to make jumin nervous -- esp with sarah and glam on his back still. this is when he locks elizabeth up.Â
 day 8, the chairman learns that sugar round is worthless and that glam and sarah have been duping him the whole time. theyâre disgraced and are never heard from again so... problem solved but this also means that you and jumin no longer have a reason to stay âtogetherâ... and youâre both kind of falling for each other so obviously thatâs no good. you spend one last night in the penthouse before resolving to break things off officially in the morning. the other members talk about how sad you guys both seem to be parting.
BAD STORY END 1:
if you shy away at the fake intimate gestures (hand holding, hugging, etc), and pointedly answer incorrectly when asked a question about jumin that you should know the answer to, your ruse fails and you guys are caught faking the relationship. to avoid the scandal breaking to the press, jumin winds up marrying sarah anyways.
the branch point for this one would be right before the kiss scene, if youâre on track for the good end then the kiss happens, if not, youâre forced to shove him away when he goes in for it, revealing to sarah that you guys are frauds.
the cg would be him and sarah at the press release for their engagement announcement. sarahâs all smiles and jumin is... pretty understandably miserable looking. a reporter asks him about the other person he was in a relationship with prior to his engagement to sarah, and he reads off a line about how sarah captivated him like no one else ever could in an emotionless voice.
BAD RELATIONSHIP END 1:
if you do fine during the VN portions, but arenât active enough in the chats, then the fake relationship plan works, but afterwards its just... really awkward. once the whole mint eye thing ends youâre pretty much just excommunicated from the rfa since you... didnât really seem to like them all that much.
day 9:
a huge attack on the messenger happens, coupled with explicit threats directed at mc, sending everyone into such a panic that ending your fake relationship is the last thing on anyones mind. jumin is so fucking scared that heâs going to lose you, and muses in the chatroom about why heâs more scared for your safety than he would be if it were, say, yoosung being threatened (cue yoosungâs crying emoji lmao). everyone else is like âwell clearly its because youâre in love with themâ
anyways. they decide its for the best if you continue to stay at the penthouse and in spite of everything, youâre both... kind of relieved lol.Â
everything is all fine and dandy until elizabeth III runs away, ramping jumins anxiety up to 11 like... right away
this is where we really start to see behavior more along the lines of what happens in his route, you suggest the two of you leave and search for elizabeth, and he refuses to let you go, etc. etc.Â
it sort of turns into a fight, but it all works out in the end. he tells you about rika and elizabeth and why she means so much to him, and you guys talk about how fear of losing someone important to him canât rule his life, and that its one thing to be careful, but another entirely to try to control someone elseâs behavior because of fear.Â
you convince him to get some sleep, assuring him that elizabeth will turn up soon and that heâs going to be alright. you guys fall asleep next to eachother without even thinking about it. its not until jumin mentions something about waking up next to you in the chat the next day that the rest of the gang is like âuhhhh,,,, why are you guys still sharing a bedâ
MEANWHILE lol seven and yoosung arrive at mint eye and find elizabeth, just like what happens in canon. they decide to bring her back tomorrow.
BAD STORY END 2:
obligatory mint eye ending. if youâre too aggressive and forward with jumin and donât give him time to properly process his feelings, he doesnât offer to let you stay at the penthouse, relying on sevenâs assurance that the apartment is totally secure (itâs not). saeran breaks in and takes you away.
this branch happens pretty early in the day, before elizabeth escapes.
i thought about a cg for this one but tbh... there are so many saeran and mc at mint eye BE cgs that idk what i could come up with that wouldnât be super derivative lol
BAD RELATIONSHIP END 2:
again, because youâre only talking to jumin and not the rest of the rfa, he assumes that you donât like being in the rfa very much BUT he still likes you... a lot and is very worried about your safety re: hacker, AND because he still hasnât really dealt with his issues regarding v/rika/emotions, you guys decide to just straight up leave lol. you move to a different country where he can pretty much continue doing his work remotely while keeping you safe.
the cg for this one is the two of you in a different cushy apartment somewhere. youâre making dinner while he works. its... stable, but noticeably stiff. neither of you are talking much and his dialogue is pretty stilted. its pretty clear that he regrets abandoning his friends and is unhappy.
day 10:
3AM chat with zen where he speaks entirely in thinly veiled hypotheticals about you guys. (âwell, if i thought i could have a shot with someone i really loved, i think i would take that chance and tell them, even if i might get shot down. and even if that person was a huge ass who my sexy white-haired best friend hated. i would tell them how i feltâ)
seven secures the messenger again and the threat is declared neutralized! youâre safe to go home but neither you nor jumin want that at all.
yoosung brings elizabeth back around 9, and it proceeds pretty similarly to what happens in his route: heâs wary about taking her back because he feels that heâs mistreated her, youâre like âwhoa buddy youâre going too far in the opposite direction hereâ and you and v have to convince hm that its going to be okay. the only real difference is that v doesnt also have to convince him to let you go. he just says something about how the two of you seem to bring out the best in each other, and that jumin is brighter when youâre around.Â
later, jumin (tries) to make you lunch using the cooking skills you taught him a few days ago as a final payment (since you refused actual money) for all of your help, both with his father and with elizabeth, but he winds up ordering in instead. its very cute BUT its super awkward because neither of you has said anything about not wanting to leave.
finally you have to face the music and pack your bags. you hug jumin goodbye and make him promise to still get lunch with you sometime before heading back to rikaâs apartment sadly.
everyone is like âyo what the fuck???â and its actually yoosung of all people who is finally like âthis is ridiculous. you two clearly have feelings for each other and you need to deal with itâÂ
jumin is absent from most of the chatrooms for the rest of the day though, so he doesnât really see anything until he forces himself to log on later that night and is like âohâ
and YES of course this is going to culminate in a typical romcom scene where he has driver kim race to the apartment so he can pound on the door and apologize to you and tell you how he feels!! maybe it even happens in the rain just to maximize romance. the important thing here is that you finally kiss him for real this time and its perfect.
BAD STORY END 3:
pretty much juminâs BE2, if you werent assertive enough with him re: his possession/control issues on day 9, he never gets over them. when elizabeth is returned he locks her back up and insists that you continue to stay with him as well, canon BE2 ensues.
i gotta hand it to cheritz. its a really good bad ending and theres not much i wanna change about it. its so scary in a calm sort of way, which i think is the perfect vibe for a dangerously unhealthy jumin. if only people would stop fetishizing it lolol
party (GE ver):
you and jumin mingle with the guests and the other members for a bit, but as the evening goes on, jumin gets restless. he pulls you aside and tells you that, while you did a wonderful job planning the party, he canât help but regret that your guysâ first
date is technically a work function. especially when the fake first date you told his father was so perfect. he then decides that the two of you have been there long enough to fulfill your obligations, and that no one could really begrudge you if you âtook offâ a little early. you guys fly to paris that night and have that dinner on top of the eiffel tower.
the ending cg isnât a kiss one, but a more simple, sweet one of the two of you in a dimly lit restaurant, jumin listening to you talk with the most tender, loving look in his eyes.
party (NE ver):
you and jumin mingle with the guests and the other members for a bit, but as the evening goes on, jumin gets restless. he pulls you aside and tells you that, while you did a wonderful job planning the party, he canât help but regret that your guysâ first date is technically a work function. especially when the fake first date you told his father was so perfect. he laments the fact that if he was caught shirking responsibilities to take you on a real date, the press would have a field day with it, but promises to make it up to you, and take you out on a proper one tomorrow.
this cg is the two of you dancing at the rfa party, jumin resting his chin on the top of your head and daydreaming out loud about everything the two of you could do on your real first date.
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Also for the character meme: Kattappa and nayaki! Shivu (Idk if weâre allowed to use AU versions of characters but Iâm not mean enough to make you answer about canon Shivu. Unless you want to, I guess.)
kattapa:favorite thing about them: his blatant hate of biju. it goes against so much of what he must have been taught, but that scene where he insinuates that biju has a diseased mind and then blackmails him... perfect. also?? kattapa is a great guy in general ok. least favorite thing about them: anything âbadâ about him is the fault of his slavers. favorite line: that part where he yells at baahu for being a ditz and heâs like âYOU COULD HAVE KILLED ME!! YOU DUMBASS I RAISED YOU AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT ME??!!!â also every time he over glorifies kumara varma like that whole thread is gold. brOTP: kattapa and devasena in the kuntala part where theyâre just fucking with each other over baahu. also kattapa and kumara varma!! OTP: i know BB has sulaiman so them together i suppose that. i know the scene where he doesnt understand romance is funny but i see two options: heâs either given up heterosexual romance because he doesnât want another kid to be born a slave (i dont think its a thing about canât because he comes from a lineage which implies its probably in the stateâs best interest for him to produce more slave children... disgusting). Or, he doesnât experience sexual attraction, which again is complicated by how being a slave affects ideas of personhood and the dynamics at play.  nOTP: kattapa/sivagami bc i dont think they could ever scale the master/slave dynamic and it just doesnt sit well with me. obv kattapa/bijju is even worserandom headcanon: not a headcanon per se but i really cling to our idea that the original sin of the mahishmati royal family is that itâs a family of slavers, no matter how benign. i also think mahendra frees kattapa immediately. at some point, a young kattapa goes against all his brainwashing and briefly asserts himself by sticking his tongue out behind bijuâs back. unpopular opinion: i dont think its fair to hate on kattapa for killing baahu because none of us can really understand what its like to consider yourself a weapon or tool of the state instead of a person. we all assume heâs got free will when ... tbh thatâs not a valid assumption to be making bc the core of his identity as we see is that heâs a slave to the throne. we see him, 25 years later only able to wage war against bhalla because mahendra was validated as the rightful king! idk its just such a shitty situationsong i associate with them: donât really have one, sorry! favorite picture of them: the faces kattapa makes @ kumara varmaâs antics in the background or even to his face.
nayaki!shivufavorite thing about them: nayaki! shivu respects ppl and hopefully will make a good king by the end of the story. canon shivu inherently seems more an adventure hero is is illsuited to the throne, but hopefully by cementing avantika as the quest character iâll be able to give shivu the necessary qualities and outlook that will make him someone who can understand and learn how to run things as opposed to suiting on his throne and shouting weird fascist shit bc he happens to be sivagami deviâs heir. least favorite thing about them: nothing heâs perfect. ok no he isnt but i need to get back into this story, and obv he has to have faults. heâs probably got a little too much of devasenaâs hotheadedness. i also think heâs struggling with figuring out who he is (esp re: his super strength) but that isnt my least favorite thing about him as much as its his least favorite thing about himselffavorite line: so far? âWeâll go together, then.â i guess, just him deciding that this ârandomâ woman in a far off landâs oppression matters enough for him to risk his life over. heâs a good boy, and not motivated entirely by his libido or boredom. brOTP: i honestly havent introduced enough characters but probably shivu&kattapa. OTP: well hopefully by the end itâll be shivu/avantikanOTP: idk . shivu/bhadra? he doesnt have any other love interests random headcanon: he got good at archery because its the only thing he was sure was safe re: his strength. he wrestles solely based on instinct and leverages his strenth, and avantika will teach him how to use a sword, but growing up he was always afraid that he would hurt someone so he stuck to archery. unpopular opinion: all my opinions on nayaki! shivu are unpopular i havent updated in months im the only one with opinions on him (except u maybe but thats just bc i laid out the entire story in your message box at 3 am) song i associate with them: iâll figure this one out i promise im so bad with songs favorite picture of them: no pictures exist but my favorite moment is when heâs pulling the statue to the chants of his fatherâs (and his) name.Â
love u avani!!!!
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Okay so this person left me a massive response and now Iâm actually frustrated as happens every time I dare raise criticism against a tumblr darling so letâs go.
Sunny gets kidnapped because sheâs an infant. Olaf can easily just hold a knife to their throats but thatâs just boring.
Iâm not saying Olaf has to put a knife to their throat, just that reusing the same solution twice in as many stories isâŚlazy. Like, purely from a storytelling standpoint, itâs lazy. It makes you look creatively bankrupt at the second story out of the four in this season, which isâŚa bad look.
Also, âbecause sheâs an infantâ? Sheâs apparently as intelligent as her siblings if not more (her subtitles literally have her speaking Italian, and of course she beats a guy at poker even though she didnât even know how to play) and has what can only be described as superhuman strength in her jaws (which also means this piece of tape would probably not muzzle her very efficiently; thereâs a reason real-life muzzles surround the entire jaw rather than being focused at the point where lever effect would make Sunnyâs jaw the most effective).
So sheâs an infant when the plot demands for her to be helpless, but she also isnât when necessary? Good job with the consistency.
Also if everyone is a bad guy, it wouldnât make sense. The issues with morality are called a âconflictâ. Any writer knows that a conflict is good for stories.
UmâŚwhat? Youâre right, conflict is good for stories. But I have no idea what youâre talking about with âissues of moralityâ. Do you mean the fact that most of the characters arenât good or evil? Because that has nothing to do with conflictâŚat all.
But since you brought it up, conflict requires agency to be meaningful. So far, in the show, the only person whoâs expressed any agency is, ironically, Count Olaf. Literally everyone else is reacting to his actions. That does not make for a compelling story.
Conflict generally arises from the protagonistsâ wants and needs conflicting with each other and with the antagonistâs opposition. Here, the Baudelaires donât want for anything (in the sense that they have no goal set out in front of them). They have situations to escape, but that is not the same in terms of analyzing a story.
Itâs not like you couldnât give the Baudelaires something to want that revolves around escaping abuse. ThatâsâŚbasically what every Cinderella story does with their protagonists. But this story doesnât provide us with that. The kids have no goal to work towards. That makes for poor protagonists, and therefore, a poor story.
And itâs very hypocritical to say the children are whining babies when you are doing the same about the plot. Theyâre A. Children, B. Chased by a murderer/ possible pedophile C. Lost their parents and home. D. No one listens to them. So excuse them if they seem to cry a bit.
Me saying I am frustrated with the show = children not doing anything when put in a situation that they are fully aware they should escape? UmâŚwhat?
I have no problem with them crying/grieving. I have an issue with them not doing anything. For a show that you claimed is about self reliance, they sure donât do a lot of that. I mean, seriously. "The Bad Beginningâ is resolved by appealing to an authority figure anyway and swaying her to their side after sheâd been fooled by Olaf, how is this self-reliance?
[Side-note: I should point out the glaring ignorance of basic âshow donât tellâ with Klausâs speech, but I realize thatâs an intentional quirk and use of tone so Iâll let it slide. That said, it does mean the protagonistsâ biggest action in that climax happens more or less off-screen while Lemony Snicket narrates to us. Iâm just saying. It doesnât help with the kidsâ lack of agency.]
Speaking of the grievingâŚthey donât do a whole lot of that either, actually. They are vaguely miserable, but as far as crying orâŚwell, expressing any kind of emotional pain, thereâs not much of that anyway. What thereâs a lot of is apathy. Which I guess could be part of the grieving process, but again, doesnât make for very relatable characters or work for a story thatâs supposedly about self-reliance.
And no, not everyone is bad, youre just missing the point. Poe and Monty are willfully ignorant. Justice Strauss was blinded by her dreams.
I didnât say they were all bad. AlthoughâŚthey kind of are. Itâs the banality of evilâlook it up.
Which, incidentally, would make for an interesting themeâŚif it wasnât pushed to the extreme that it is here. Take for instance Olafâs first lie to Poe: telling him that âclosest living relativeâ means closest in proximity. Doesnât Poe do this on a regular basis? Or have some common sense? Hell, even if I were to accept Poe is fooled by that definition (which is hard to believe when the person trying to play with words canât use words himself), Olaf doesnât even provide evidence that heâs related to the children or that there are no relatives living closer that he does.
See, the banality of evil requires a competent villain to work. The whole point of that concept is that peopleâs apathy in the face of evil allows it to prosper. But that does require a competent villain, which OlafâŚisnât. Also itâs a pretty tough and complicated subject in general, so you want your non-evil characters to beâŚregular humans with regular human brains.
Gustav and Jacqueline who?
Idk I should ask you that, Iâve barely seen either of them and considering Jacqueline got trapped even though she clearly knows whatâs going on sheâs not striking me as any more intelligent or competent than the rest of the case. And GustavâŚI donât even remember what happened to him. So eh. Whatever you say.
Sorry for the long posts but it doesnt make sense to criticize a miserable (But not bad) story if the narrator himself says its a miserable story. And sure, forget the kidnapped parents i guess cause the misery just gets worse.
Youâre missing the point of my criticism though? Iâm not criticizing the story for being miserable, Iâm saying the execution of the story to make it miserable is lazy and requires everyone in it to be unbearably stupid. The concept is a good one, the execution is shoddy.
Of course, that is all opinion even if Iâm using facts to justify my opinion and youâre still free to like it.Â
As for the kidnapped parents, yeah I know theyâre out there but itâs likeâŚa subplot. If the main plot makes me angry watching it Iâm not sticking around for the subplot, with or without cobie smulders. Sorry.
anyway sorry if I missed things I typed this in 5 minutes bc I had to leave.
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okay, you know, i changed my mind? iâm cleaning house today, airing out laundry, so why not do the same emotionally?
itâs been weighing on me too long and making me feel like a bad person but iâve been so terrified of burning bridges that i never want to admit when i have a different opinion social-justice/spiritual-wise than my friends on here.
bc a lot of people seem to have the attitude that having a different political opinion than someone means you literally canât interact with them again or continue being friends.
which i understand, itâs an online safe space and you want to surround yourself with like-minded people so you can enjoy your time away from the real-life people whose opinions youâre stuck around. tumblr is kind of the only place you CAN talk to ppl about lgbt, race, gender, etc issues and avoid other types of ppl.
but it just seems so, in a way, divisive and un-productive to alienate people who you enjoy talking to and being friends with, who share all of your political, social justice beliefs except ONE or TWO....just because their ideology doesnât match perfectly with yours.
especially when theyâve been respecting your opinions the entire friendship and thereâs no reason you wouldnât be able to continue talking just without discussing those topics youâve never discussed in the first place because theyâve been silent about them...
so maybe iâm afraid of all my friends finally learning my two differing opinions and immediately going âwow youre a bigot we cant be friendsâ and maybe thats presumptive and wrong but i canât help my instinctual worries, you know? am i putting up too much self-defense here??
i hope i dont sound attack-y which iâm worried i might because whenever i get ranty....but whatever, this is all just MY opinion and if you read it i hope you can understand where im coming from and then, take from it what you will.
.hhmm. enough stalling...
ive never been âantiâ otherkin--as i understand itâs a spiritual belief for some and a coping mechanism for others, and thereâs no reason for me to bash that or find any fault with people who just feel a connection to a certain animal or whatever. thatâs been happening for all of human existence, there are religions which believe in reincarnation, and iâm agnostic anyways.
i wasnât raised religious, tho my mom was raised catholic--she wanted my sister and i to come to god on our own terms in our own time instead of being brainwashed by a church since babyhood. so far it just made us very secular. but iâve had jewish, christian, muslim friends, and never disrespect anyoneâs spiritual beliefs. i do preach separation of church and state and hold the political views that come with that, but i believe in freedom to express religion as long as it doesnât infringe on another humanâs rights.
but when it goes past otherkin...people identifying as animals, plants, and galaxies, that doesnât harm anything--but when it comes to fictionkin and factkin it makes me very uncomfortable.
it feels extremely like theft of intellectual property and theft of identity. factkin, i have never actually seen a person identifying as, just people having âdiscourseâ over, so i dont know if its even real but if it is...i dont even know if i have to argue against it, itâs literally pretending to be another person who is alive?? and is themselves. itâs way beyond wrong to pretend to actually be a famous person, and it is NOT a healthy coping mechanism. it could actually really scare or harm that person theyâre pretending to be.
fictionkin is something i have seen a LOT and have friends who id that way, so thatâs i guess the big topic here. no problem with otherkin, no one i know is factkin, but fictionkin....
i understand where it would come in as a coping mechanism, i really do. i can relate. i have characters that iâm very attached to, that i relate to very much, that i look up to and want to emulate. some of them i even feel unreasonably possessive over, like âwell thatâs my favorite character, they canât be your favorite character if theyâre already mineâ which probably comes in to play with fictionkin feeling like they ARE the character so nobody else can be the character.
but the thing is, i canât help but to feel like itâs intellectual property being stolen. itâs one thing to roleplay, to say âhey i know i dont own this character but iâm gonna pretend to be them and explore different scenarios.â the same for cosplaying or writing fanfiction and making fan art. using characters somebody else created to INSPIRE your own art is all fun and games as long as you dont claim to own any of the copyrighted materials.
claiming to BE the fictional character is totally claiming to own it. not legally obviously, i donât think any fictionkin think they legally have rights to their kin, but definitely a huge mark of ownership to say âThis is Me.â
they didnât create that character. they didnât spend hours, days, months, pouring their heart soul sweat blood and tears into bringing that character to life. the writer/artist did. when you write, you put literally all of yourself into your characters. every bit of it comes from your thoughts, your unique worldview, the things youâve seen and learned all mixed together and spat out in a new form. it all comes from the mind of the characterâs creator. in a way, their characters are each, them, or have their blood running through their metaphorical veins.
i am PASSIONATE about writing.
claiming to BE that character, that a writer put so much of themselves into, is almost like claiming to be that writer too. at least like carving out a piece of their mind and saying âthis is mine, it came from my life in another universe. it doesnât belong to you. itâs not a unique pattern of emotions and ideas and creativity that you spent years developing. itâs just me from another universe, what a coincidence, right?â
itâs so offensive to steal another personâs hard work like that. and tumblr--tumblr--is supposed to be this place where people care about art theft and crediting the owners matters? and that makes me very, very uncomfortable as an aspiring writer who has my own original characters developing in my head.
important side note: i dont think you can say that fictionkin doesnt actually hurt anyone the way factkin obviously would. i have seen personal accounts from people on tumblr that said people were tagging their ocs/self portraits as kin, or telling them that they were kin with their ocs and they were writing the story wrong in some way, and they were very distressed by it.
so. i have never said anything because i dont want to hurt anyones feelings and i dont want to lose friends, but i also have to be honest and say what i believe if i want to respect myself as a person. so thatâs what i believe.
and i donât think itâs a necessary course of action to cut off ties with someone because they dont believe in fictionkin. its like stopping being friends with someone because they have a different religion than you. iâve had christian, jewish and muslim friends and as i said, iâm non-religious.
i understand that maybe identifying as a character is more tied with your personal identity than your religious identity, so itâs natural you would feel like people should accept that that character is part of your personality--but please understand that i can accept that there are aspects of all those characters in you and that you relate to them, without expecting me to believe that infinite universes AND reincarnation across those universes exist, which is more than any of my religious friends have asked of me. (ie no one has tried to convert me to their personal spiritual beliefs)
so that said, idk if anyone read all of this, but if you want to stop being my friend over it i wont try to make you change your mind. if youre uncomfortable talking to me after this, its fine and i wont push it. i gave my reasoning for why im willing to stay friends and put our different beliefs aside so know that youre always welcome in my life if you want to be, but i wont force you if you dont.
the next one is worse. stay tuned.
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