#idk i guess it's all about perspective
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Someone said this already but I’ll point it out again that Jimmy is an unreliable narrator and a manipulator that spins and alters the narrative/tone of every scene he’s in with each character.
This sentence also applies to Curly.
Too many people are taking how Jimmy talks to Curly and how Curly is actually responding at face value when between Anya and Curly he is again the second most affected by his presence. This is to say he changes how he is acting drastically when dealing with Jimmy in a more similar way Anya does than people are willing to admit.
#like idk why we just accepted that yeah Jimmy is also saying truths about curly or that curly is the only one#unaffected by Jimmy’s behavior like I also see people saying Curly is an unreliable narrator and while he has some biases his perception#of reality and acknowledgment of things that challenge his views make him completely different#like he is aware of what’s actually happening he’s just handling pretty badly like idk for people who don’t want to trust his words all the#facts you get about Anya in the game come from his friendly commentary about her and his thoughts so I guess we throw that out?#it’s just not everything is a parallel for Jimmy and curly as player characters sometimes it really is to show how#different and disingenuous Jimmy is about things as Curly is the only other perspective we get#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing
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I know that it's common fanon belief to see Starlo as the younger sibling between him and Orion, but I actually like the idea of Starlo being the older brother and what it means for his family dynamic. Generally, the older sibling is expected to be the more responsible and mature sibling in the family. There's this expectation that the older sibling sets an example for the younger sibling(s) and that they'll look after the family/business once the parents get too old to do so themselves. So, what does it mean when the older sibling sorta betrays those familial expectations by behaving immaturely and ditching the family to do their own thing?
I'm trying to figure out how to put this into words in a clear and concise way, but I feel like if it's a case of Starlo being the younger brother, then there's this sorta "Ah, that's just the younger brother acting like a kid, y'know how it is. He'll grow out of it" dynamic, whereas if Starlo is the older brother, then it's more of a "Okay, he should've grown out of this by now, why's he still acting like this? Even Orion is more mature than him; what is going on?" sorta deal. (This frustration would be especially felt by Orion, who has to pick up Starlo's slack in his stead because his older brother isn't mature enough to work like he's supposed to!!!)
These are just personal musings, don't take my word as gospel! You can still do tons of interesting things with the Sunnyside family while having Starlo be the younger brother and Orion the older one. I just find myself gravitating more towards seeing Starlo as the older sibling.
#idk how much grounds i have to speak on this because I'm the youngest sibling in my family and I'm not all that close with my older sibling#(nothing crazy going on there. we just grew into different people and we don't interact much in our daily lives)#but like. with older siblings there's generally all these heavier expectations around you. you're supposed to be what your#younger sibling looks up to. you're supposed to set the bar that the rest of your siblings get measured against.#so what does it mean when--from the family's perspective--you set the bar pretty low by running off from your family/responsibilities#and dedicate your life to LARPing as a cowboy?#obviously Starlo's family loves him. but they don't seem all too supportive. Orion is annoyed by his brother's antics.#Crestina expects him to grow out of it. Solomon is the most positive about it but that's bc he thinks that Starlo did it to#indirectly save the family business.#they only seem to come around post true-pacifist when Starlo opens up to them more and they sell corn in the W.E.#there's something that's lingering on the tip of my tongue about this but i can't articulate it.#something something age =/= maturity and all that? i guess?
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I know I could be better. But holy fuck I could be WAY worse
#i've BEEN worse too#every time i start to tear myself down i need to remember who i am!!!!!#if i can't feel happy w myself in the moment i need to at least take a step back and try to see myself objectively#try to view myself the way i view everyone around me#try to see the good in myself the way i try to see the best in others#idk lol i guess my tags are more positive than the actual post#but to me the post is positive 😌 all about perspective#my post#softgothbabe#thoughts#personal#(ish)#self analysis#introspection#mental health#about me#mood#perspective
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thank you loris for serving ur entire purpose of having vi briefly hallucinate vander in ur place
#arcane tag#it's like. making me think a lot about how they got their dad back after being on their own for so long#or well jinx had silco and technically has sevika and now has/had vi to protect her so she wasn't totally on her own beyond#on her own within her trauma#but with vi she hasn't had anyone to protect her since losing vander#she lost her parents time and time again#and then i guess she did end up with cait taking the shot to protect her in s1#and now she does have ppl like loris i guess but getting vander back#and having vander actively protect his daughters again#rly puts into perspective how alone vi is on that level#idk i just dont know if jinx or vi ever got unconditional love from anyone besides vander (and their bio parents probably)#and i guess one another to an extent#there is something to caitvi evolving into this just complicated politics happening around them#im all out of braincells i cried them out idk#also maybe something to jinx no longer wanting to be protected bc she sees what happens when people do look out for her??#so freeing vi of that even though... girl no <3333#maybe that's her way of protecting her but ough
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personally see ‘ship’ as less i want these two to be in a romantic relationship endgame and more these two characters have specific personalities that i think would create an interesting fucked up dynamic that i would like to see explored as close to canon as possible
#this is how i feel about all fam/vic ships honestly#and i lowkey think its weirder to try and turn it into a romantic non toxic thing#i guess i like my cannibal killers 2 be Realistic#like stockholm is the closest i get but even then it has to be plausible#but it may also jusf be i have such an aromantic perspective of johnny i cannot see him actually loving anyone except nancy#(as he was stockholmed in his own way)#i usually just say dynamic instead of ship bc it holds less weight#like if i were to talk about the nancy/johnny dynamic instead of the nancy/johnny ship it sounds less threatening#and i think makes it more clear than 👍 this is not a good thing i want to see happen irl 👍 this is just an analysis of the subtext#and infering things from it 👍#*makes it more clear thaT#i think ship just has an uwu lovey dovey sound to it that ppl think means good relationship#there r some exceptions like con/julie but like idk man even then theyre a bit fucked up and angsty 😭#i guess danny/juli isnt fucked up… i dont think…. yay ^-^
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cr3 is gonna end and the pc’s still feel like the same people to me :|
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#cr spoilers#cr critical#the pacing of this campaign was shot to shit from the start and i really hope mercer learns from this and takes it into account for cr4#i actually think they need to do mini seasons like d20 does. not in the way that they’re all completely separate from one another but#the way the unsleeping city had multiple seasons or a crown of candy or fantasy high. connected arcs in a bigger story#it would give mercer more time to plan and pace things and would give both cast and crew more time to prepare things#bc this campaign was. frantic. just full speed ahead with no breathing room. it’s a marathon sprint#i still feel like the initial assault on the key was like. maybe a few months ago#IT WAS A YEAR!!!!#what do you MEAN this campaign took place over five months!!! these people don’t know each other!!!! I don’t know them!!!!!!#VM knew each other for YEARS TM9 traveled for a YEAR together#CR3 viewers have been talking about a time skip happening as though it’s a guarantee!!! TM9 didn’t end with a time skip and guess what!!#It was a good ending!!! Maybe a few loose threads but they were easily touched upon later with no issues#like idk ppl are allowed to like or even love cr3 i have no issue with that. i just think that from a storytelling perspective it’s just#so poorly paced and i think both fans and players deserve better than to be thrown into world ending stakes immediately#the initial assault on the malleus key felt like an endgame event and it was like fifty episodes in. Tm9 got to xhorhas around episode 50#characters deserve time to marinate. cr3 is a pressure cooker#don’t even get me started on braius’ inclusion. sam i’m sure your character is cool and complicated but he’s been here for like 20 eps#i dont know this man#also i feel like shorter seasons/separate arcs woven together would account more for people’s personal lives and any medical issues#like what happened with sam. ppl were hounding him asking for his return meanwhile he was being treated for CANCER like I can’t imagine#dealing with that kind of pressure. players deserve privacy however they can get it.#(also fgc’s death is to me the only narratively satisfying thing to happen in cr3 i’m not kidding#fucking perfect setup and execution. exquisitely done on mr riegel’s part#laudna has also had some great story beats along with imogen but i think matt fucked up making delilah come back i really do)#anyway all the love to the cr crew and cast if you see this ily and your stories i just think pacing needs to be taken into account#“they’re just friends sitting at a table playing dnd” i don’t think they are anymore actually#obviously they’re still friends playing dnd but like. cr3 feels so produced and i dont mean that in a good way :[ it feels so corporate#off topic i am SO FUCKING EXCITED for the switch to daggerheart! I think it’ll really breathe some new light and life into exandria!!!
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#feel like my relationship with my younger brother is changed completely forever not to be dramatic lol but i am sad#we used to b very close but he has kind of. found his faith again and gone full missionary christian which like. i knew meant the dynamic#was doomed lmao but actually acknowledging it makes me sad i feel like i'm grieving for the friendship we used to have even though#it is literally a me problem i think from his perspective he doesn't think anything has changed. but i feel weird about everything#also his new gf is nineteen and he is. almost 25 and i am the only one who feels weird about it like i know she's over 18 but! idk i can't#tell if i'm being overly cautious or if my gut instinct is right. my sister & her husband have a similar age gap but they met when they wer#both over 30 so like. it didn't feel weird. and i didn't feel comfortable actually seriously talking to him about it apart from the first#time he mentioned her over facetime (he went to another country to do mission stuff & met her there) so like an idiot i've just been#making jokes about the age gap becausee like. thats always been our thing lightly bullying each other lol but he blew up at me and said#i've had nothing positive to say about her since he's been back home and that he thinks i hate her and i'm out of line for constantly#implying he's creepy for dating someone younger. idk i felt like such a freak idiot horrible person about it. it completely blindsided me#bc yes the jokes were coming from a place of idk how i feel about this situation so i'm going to rely on the humour-based communication#we have always fallen back on as a safety thing but i guess i was wrong or the dynamic shifted or something anyway it's all fucked#& everyone is just telling me i feel weird out of some?? misplaced kind of jealousy thing?? because i'm 'losing' my brother to his gf lol#which does not feel right at all he has dated so many other girls and i have never had a problem it is literally the age gap like i haven't#even met this girl i'm sure she's very nice! i just worry about her being nineteen!! jesus. and yes maybe i do feel some resentment around#a brother younger than me who seems to be able to live his life with zero difficulty whilst i'm stuck being this unemployed loser who ruins#literally ever friendship & relationship ive ever had but i think thats ok right like i can't help feeling that. i don't fucking knowwww#am i just projecting all these sad feelings about our friendship dying onto his new relationship or like. am i right to be genuinely#concerned she's six years younger than him and still a fucking teenager!!!!!! i don't know
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This is what Moon’s ost feels like and it still makes me so unbelievably emotional
(Wow the quality was butchered- click for full quality)
#myart#rainworld#rainworld iterator#iterator#iterator oc#so many things I wanted to say about this and it’ll never be enough#something about moon’s theme just makes me so emotional and idk why#I’ve talked about it before and I guess I tried to convey it here#like it’s some grand feeling like it sort of puts the perspective that iterators are SO much more than we think#idk I could just be mentally ill over robots#Guhh I love to listen to it at full volume (hearing issues speedrun) and just listen to all the individual parts like how you can hear#the iterator heartbeat in the background#it makes me soooo fucking emotional#Spotify#rainworldbuilding
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“the hanza never caught a break, they were treated so poorly by the narrative, sapkowski tortured them terribly”
they stayed in beauclair palace as incognito nobility for three straight months of dizzying dancing, feasting, and pouring wine down their throats*. and eating a sumptuous breakfast for two to three hours every single day together, hosting lazy mornings together day after day. strolling around the gardens. flirting with the knighthood. being the darlings of the duchess.
what i mean to say with this post is that though yes, geralt’s hanza died tragically, they got a moment of paradise to themselves, which they intentionally shared with each other, enjoying each others’ company.
we specifically have a canon three months of geralt’s hanza hanging out together in the most fairytale-like, magical place on the continent. it’s not like they go directly from hiding in the bushes in the swamps of angren to stygga castle.
so it’s astounding to me how little attention their winter snowed-in in beauclair seems to get by the fans 😭 (this isn’t admonishing, rather i’m trying to lift all of our spirits) guys, we have a period where they were not only alive, with one another, safe, but living very well and in good health**. and because they are fictional characters and not people, they can live immortally on the page and in the mind. stygga is their narrative end, but these three months can be forever, they can live in beauclair in your mind eternally if you so desire to imagine them there.
though their tragic end shouldn’t be forgotten or ignored. yes, in beauclair, they caught the biggest break of their lives—but the point of their team of heroes is that they willingly gave it all up, eagerly and gratefully tossed it aside—because they valued their quest and their leader (!) more.
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* the wine thing applying to all except regis.
** yes, though their stay should be understood as being captive, they were captive in a paradise, which is a specific kind of captivity. it only began to really drive them mad by yuletide, when they had already spent a couple months there. i don’t think you cant say it’s the same as being held captive in the sense that, for example, yennefer was held captive—in a dark stone dungeon, tortured day-in-day-out.
#BC THEY ARE HEROES. THATS WHAT BEING A HERO IS ABOUT !!!#i mean it all depends on your perspective i guess#if half a century of poetry is the blink of an eye idk what three months is#the elbow-high diaries#f: a hansa’s a hansa
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there r a lot of little things i love about brazilian culture/portuguese but by far one of my favorite things is that instead of just saying bye we also tend to say kiss.... like yea it's most often follwed up with goodbye but it doesn't have to be..... u can just give a verbal kiss and it is accepted as much as any other form of farewell!!! idk i just think it's rlly cute :]
#icarus speaks#qsmp is just. wahhhhhh. it's making me miss home#but it's also like. weirdly giving me a new perspective on brazilian culture?#bc like. i don't Think about the things we do#bc they're just natural to me. like i don't think about beijos and and saudades and the versatility of swears#and how contextual the language/culture is#i just do it bc it's what i've done all my life without much thought!!#but now i'm almost seeing it in an outsiders perspective as non brazilians react to the ccs#and i'm like. huh. i guess that IS really specific to us isn't it. i never really thought abou tit#idk idk i am just full of Love for this server#oh fuck cellbit got further
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sometimes im hit by the urge to do a massive overhaul on sotm and rewrite the entire first half of it now that ive read more comics and have more opinions. like i probably won't bc i have other stuff i wanna write but also im like constantly tempted by the idea of completely redoing ch3 bc i want kon & kara bonding augh
#the getting into comics experience is that there's always more comics to read i guess and so naturally one's perspective will keep shifting#BUT ALSO. I WANT....... KON & KARA............#and also tbh i kinda want to cut back on jason's role bc i kinda just assumed oh well everyone puts him back in the family so ig i will too#like i was just going uhhh if the rest of the bats are there at least in cameo he should be too...#but. with the perspective i currently have. actually i think it's better if he's not. i like it better with drama in that relationship#which of course is not at all even a little bit the point in sotm but i just. hm. cuts him out. adds in kara#generally i wanna lean further into like. kon's kryptonian feelings too. didn't do that bc i hadn't read much that wasn't sb94#when i started writing it#but now that ive read new krypton. well i have THOUGHTS#maybe i should just commit and do a full sotm rewrite idk idk#much to think about#rimi talks
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a large amount of time I've been spending on -untitled undefined scope original fiction project- since the last time I posted about it has been trying to develop the protagonist concept I came up with last summer or whatever into like, a character that would feel real and era appropriate.
it's fun research to do. naturally a lot of the details I assigned to her are things that I already think are cool, so it's been a lot of fun trying to trace her traits back through the relatively recent past, getting reminded of how much things have changed, or where the gaps in my intuition are, and then doing a flurry of reading to get a sense for exactly how someone like her and the people around her could have happened and what her life was probably like leading up to her present day. hopefully this results in some good good verisimilitude.
#I wrote a short story from her perspective over the holidays and then didn't know how to continue it#and then I got distracted by real life stuff for a few months#I forget if I posted about that#and then I've been picking through archive dot org for the last few weeks looking at this stuff#the last big rabbit hole was trying to get a better feel for era appropriate ts/tv subculture#the current one I'm looking at is how she would've gotten into language learning and how that would've worked#nettle has been prodding me about the setting thing lately so I've been thinking about that more too#probably the biggest hurdle by far is figuring out how I want to play that#and how I want the thing to be divided up#since the original coc scenario I'm developing this out of is centered on a flight from LA to honolulu#and the airport dungeon was definitely meant to be a hook for a larger campaign#some amount of it is going to cover protag lady's failed life in LA and some of it is going to be worse things happening in hawaii#but it's like. how much do I want to balance it one way or the other#and realistically how much does the aesthetics of 20th century air travel add to the story#besides me personally thinking it's compelling ofc#a lot of what I find compelling about hawaii is that it's an east/west cultural crossroads and realistically that's also true of socal#and I can wax poetic about socal as much as I want without worrying all that much about mishandling something#and there's also a lot of socal specific history along similar parallels to pull from that I'm more familiar with#I guess it comes down to whether curiosity re: 'doing it right' is enough of a motivator to do the increased amount of research#which I guess it has so far with the above character details. so hopefully that will continue#but it also feels like using machine translation a bit yknow. it's hard to know how effectively I'll be able to sanity check#although depending on where this goes I might be able to get other people involved to sensitivity read down the line#with most of the creative things I do I just have a tendency to always rely really heavily on figuring things out myself#I also want protag lady to have a Cool Car and idk how to get that from point a to point b narratively#this is like an entire second or third post's worth of tags but I don't feel like unfucking this so whatever. suffer. I guess.
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I’m fairly new to the fandom, but I do have a question if you can answer it! Why do people ship Daigo with Aoki / Masato? I tried looking to see if they’ve interacted before, but couldn’t find anything! Sorry for asking I’m just </3 dumb AND I LOVE YOUR ART OF THEM!!! Nerd looking ahhhhhh
hi ! welcome to the community i hope you're having a lovely time so far and ty for enjoyin my stuff :) no need for apologies it's a very fair question to have :]
i cant speak for everyone (all. ten people into masadai anyway) but Personally To Me i just think the idea of them together is very funny. thats quite literally it im afraid..
#snap chats#//twenty page google doc in the background// ignore that. it's mostly for comedic purposes#might also be my fault idk sorry about that. allegedly. idk ive had like three people tell me they started to ship them cause of me 🧍♂️#@mementoasts is another person who's drawn masadai and whose stuff i love and am inspod by .. i love their disneyland fic sm ...#there was another artist on twitter who posted a neat drawing of them but i cant remember who they were and i didnt bookmark it //screams//#recently there's been ANOTHER masadai artist ive started following on twitter - @wifekiryu. his account's n/s/f/w fyi before you go looking#he has a tumblr too @foxdies. i say cause i realized as much recently vjeaKLGJALKGJ#oh but I GUESS ill get deeper into why. /i/ personally ship masadai or whatever#first off they're opposing factions yet their character alignments Do Not Match their roles. stereotypically anyway#aoki who leads the 'surface' of society and is meant to be an admirable figure and someone 'just' when really. he sucks LMAO#though that's not atypical of politicians but just from a stereotypical This Is A Respectable Individual perspective of his role#daigo on the other hand leads the 'underbelly' of society- yk comprised of dangerous criminals and outcasts and whatnot#yet as we know him daigo's compassionate and considerate of his men- he doesnt treat them like tools like aoki does#if put in a room with the two daigo would be most people's choice of person to hang out with. probably open a trapdoor on aoki tbh#and i think thats really cool and epic i always love that kinda Subverting Expectations thing#theres also the fact they both started off like. edgy/angsty in the franchise and then brush up down the line#masato does a stronger 180. publicly. obviously but its still really funny they both have to get their act together#if you wanna talk about in-text reasons. there really is none LMAO I TELLS YOU masadai is pure crack#but if i wanted to pull a muscle reaching then there's daigo being on aoki's side while everyone else is on arakawa's during the funeral#im lying of course. mitsu was behind him. rgg tryna make me forget mitsu exist .... put him back in y8 ....#and ofc ichi joins that side to even out the seating but moving on another Goofy Reason is arakawa being like#'the chairman and my son are like p much the same age Surely he knows how he thinks :)'#and then i just think daigo being all smarmy about outsmarting aoki is really goofy and im choosing to interpret that as personal#they both also have issues with their dad. s. dad/s/. anyway.#tbh the google doc tag was a joke but i really could sit here and list every dumb reason why i think theyre funny together#like i started going over the tag limit so uhhhh yeah needless to say i have a lot of. dumb reasons 💀💀💀💀#one day ill use the main text for long rambles like this but todays not that day Point Is my imagination is rampant im afraid#so the short and sweet of it is I Think It's Funny. And They'd Be Terrible Together. Which Is Why It's Funny.#and the unfortunate part is anything i find funny i obsess over for a year so. //gestures to the mountain of bullshit thats my masadai tag/
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angry at the oscars barbie nominations but in an annoyinger way (i think nominating ryan reynolds makes sense but the best picture and best supporting actress noms are ridiculous)
#sorry but the more i think about it the more i really dislike the movie#ken was funny! he was silly and campy! i really did not care for the rest of the movie!#i just think the more you examine its take on feminism the more it falls apart!#it's inherently about a product! it's inherently personifying a product and making you feel sympathy for and relate to a product!#they are generating hype and engendering sympathy for something they are trying to sell you!#regurgitating second wave feminism without nuance doesn't make it groundbreaking it makes it like. fine i guess?#verilybitchie has a great video that put a lot of my feelings about it into words#idk it did not resonate with me at all and also made me kind of annoyed with how it contributed to the ongoing trend#of gendering things that aren't gendered and focusing on a segregation of gendered perspectives#tired of i'm just a girl! tired of girl dinner! tired of men are always thinking about the roman empire!#sure there are experiences more common to and relevant to women but i get so uncomfy with those kinds of generalizations#even when they're just jokes because after they get repeated enough they stop sounding like ones#just like. when you try to examine it in terms of any kind of intersectionality it falls apart#and i know it's not that serious but like come on. they literally do not once touch on any kind of intersectionality.#you can't be like 'it's a groundbreaking feminist movie!' because they said 'women struggle with misogyny' in 2023#like i know it's barbie but i don't understand why there's this impulse to say that that's something that's never been said before#just because the president is black doesn't mean you've acknowledged like. racism at all.#just because you have two fat barbies with like four lines doesn't mean you've said anything meaningful about body image#and when you take an openly lesbian actress and give her short hair and make her strange and then have all the other characters#essentially socially exile her and still think she's weird after the resolution!!!#i would say that's like!! implicitly a pretty weird way to write gay people!#i don't want to rain on anyone's parade! it's silly! it's not that serious! i just also think it's not that good!#it's fine! it's fun! but i DO think ken is the best part of the barbie movie and for that i apologize
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I'm still so mad that August Kitko was such a mid book and like I would go do far as to say maybe it was bad but it's likely it just wasn't for me.
And then I read Hell Followed With Us and realize hey now... there's a lot of similarities between these two books and wow i am enjoying this other book way more. I almost want to dig into that and figure out why. Can you ever dislike something so much you want to take a scalpel to it and dissect it to find the bloody heart? Yeah that's what I'm feeling with August Kitko... it kinda sucks but I need to know why it makes me so mad.
#cat rambles#both books are about queer people at the end of the world#both are written by trans authors and yet the queerness is handled so differently#i just.... hell followed with us manages to really get into the world building and it feels alive despite most of hunanity being dead#akatmfs just... it feels so surface level and the more i think about thst book the more pissed off i get#i really wanted to like it SO BADLY AND YET I AM JUST SEETHING#i did finish akatmfs and i was just disaappinted at the ending#there are moments in hell followed with us that made me shriek out loud like OH SHIT ya know???#i like it when authors do interesting things with their medium#andrew joseph white does that so well with the spirit bears its teeth and with hell followed with us#ann leckie also does this well just with how she writes the characters and differing perspectives#akatmfs just.... even with two main characters it just doesnt do anything interesting with that#LIKE FUCK okay#chapter 1 is from gus's pov which is good! then chapter 2 is all from ardent's persepctive iirc#thats cool!!! i like different povs but then it just starts changing pov in the middle of yhe chapter and that just.... okay i guess#i thought you were setting up this cool rhing IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO COOL#theres a part where gus gets kocked the fuck out#imagine if instead of having thet dull ass conversation with Infinite the chapter was just kike a single line of him passed out and then we#snap back to ardent#THAT WOULD BE THRILLING#THAT WOULD BE SUSPENSEFUL BC WE DONT KNOW WHATLL HAPPEN TO GUS#but no we get thus dumb ass concersation between gus and infinite that i just disnt care for#i read it all and god i just rolled my eyes becasue of course the book reveals the mystery of where the Vanguards cane from so fast#maybe i just gotta write an essay about this idk#i have thoughts
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🍄🐼 volume 4 thoughts
#Sabikui Bisco#spoilers#I guess#I'm not Thrilled about the wedding thing#from a narrative perspective I understand it#but also him being basically asexual and also married to her is kinda funny#and of course#he still loves Milo most of all <3#idk I don't love it but I can deal with it
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