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BOOK REVIEW 📖
Last year I kept track of the series & films I watched; this year I've decided to keep track of whatever books I read! So this one is for the month of January – I'll share these sometime after the month is over, or if I read more than one book during the month, I will do their reviews as soon as I finish the book :)
#ben picks up reading again#dania rambles about shit#should note that this is not spoiler free (don't give much context but still)#i would read it again just to catch all the parallels and symbolism#chose to read this on libby bc of the option to highlight and keep notes in one spot bc jfc I would've annotated tf out of a physical copy#doing this completely from my phone and made my own little template because I couldn't find any good ones for free#what else ummmm oh right this is like a basic answer/question and I ramble off topic but still within some type of margin#read that fanfic I recommend really since I feel like it's better written aka maybe I just like it more bc it has a happy ending#and it includes all the same problems that the characters of the original book went through (for the most part)#anyway 4/5 stars and not 5 bc like I got tired of clare's pov bc it felt like there was no different between#the varying ages we get once we reach her at like 12 and up#henry also affected this bc like he's likable but so stupid and shouldve studied paradoxes or something to solve his problems#again rambling it needs a fix it but blah blah not really their suffering is a main point of the book :)#yeah so structured like a traditional one but I focus on not so traditional aspects bc I have a way of analyzing things#as if I have an essay to write on it lmaooooo#these are handwritten bc I like to keep track in case it worsens due to my cubital tunnel affected wrist#(im a righty; lefty on the other hand has carpal tunnel but that only affects when I do hand on projects like pottery or painting)#I'm giving free trivia/lore about myself here lol
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How TBOC 2x5 explain how Beth survived after 5x8 Coda
(And how Ash and Daryl deliver some of the season's finest Beth callbacks and dialogue parallels)
Spoilers for TBOC 2x5 and 2x6 below, beware!
Because this episode hasn’t aired yet, I’m not going to dwell on where we are in the plot, because it’s not terribly important in this context. This is mostly about some very specific Beth callbacks and dialogue parallels from 2x5 and 2x6, and I’ll just jump right into the narrative.
So, Daryl and Carol are out looking for Ash. He’s their pilot and obviously they need him to get home to the US. He was supposed to stay by the plane, but when they return to where it’s hidden, he’s “just gone”. They ask around, and get intel suggesting he might be at Maison Mere. They go there to search for him. They can’t find him immediately, but from a window they can see something that catches their attention:
Daryl remarks “there definitely someone in there”!
An image like this should scream “suspicious” to everyone who’s followed TD for any length of time. While all us TD’ers probably have our own individual theories on how Beth survived, there seem to be consensus around the fact that the trunk of a car would most likely be involved somehow. We’ve also seen from the flashbacks in 5x9 WHAWGO that they at some point were overwhelmed by walkers, so the theory was quickly formed that most likely, they initially meant to bury her, but were overrun by a walker horde, and had to leave her behind to escape the horde and save themselves. They put her in the trunk of a car, or inside the back of a car, with the intention of returning for her when the walker horde had passed. But when they did return, she was “just gone”.
I’ve previously written a bunch of theories around suspicious cars. I personally believe that officer Lichari’s Dodge Magnum could potentially be THE car she was put in, because we’ve had a lot of symbolism around Dodges, and we’ve seen a lot of symbolism around rams, which is the Dodge logo. We actually saw this symbolism at play as recently as in TBOC 2x1, when Carol misspoke and called a car a Dodge, while it definitely was a Ford Mustang (which are also cars steeped in resurrection symbolism, read more here).
Back to TBOC 2x5. Daryl and Carol decide to investigate the suspicious car that is swarmed by walkers. Our first hint of some serious Sirius symbolism ahead, is the dog eating walkers as Daryl comes through a tunnel on his way to the car. Beth’s is a Sirius figure on the show, and Sirius refers to the Dog Star that disappears from the night sky for a while, only to “resurrect” some time later. It’s resurrection symbolism.
Daryl approaches the car, systematically taking out the walkers. Carol is right behind him.
Once they make it inside, they find none other than Ash. Unconscious, but alive. He got knocked out when he hit his head on the car door.
Let me pause here for a minute. If you were tasked with writing a scene where an unconscious Ash in a car specifically were meant to represent Beth after Coda, and he needed some visible evidence of the cause of his unconscious state. Where would you place the head wound? Would you place it exactly where Beth got shot? Yes you probably would, wouldn’t you?
And if you were to further enhance the connection to Beth, would you have him say one of her iconic lines as he woke up? Again, yes, you probably would:
Carol is thrilled to find him alive. She offers a tentative diagnosis, which I believe very well could be the diagnosis Beth would have received after her close but not fatal encounter with a bullet in Coda:
And now they need to get out. They’re stuck in a car, which I’ve often likened to a tomb, because of the resurrection symbolism they’re surrounded by:
We see imagery which we’ve seen in scenes and episodes where there’s a heavy presence of Beth/resurrection symbolism...
…such as here from 5x9 WHAWGO (which I've written about here)
Which is interesting, because WHAWGO also happens to be the episode right after Beth was "killed" and supposedly placed in the trunk of a car. It's the episode where she was last seen, in a hallucination, playing a guitar:
...which again is super interesting, considering how in 2x6, Daryl randomly finds a guitar, in the trunk of a car no less...
I legitimately ugly cried during this scene. Give Norman all the awards! And just to have mentioned it; that guitar is brought home to the US...
Back to Daryl, Carol and Ash in the car/tomb. To be stuck in a tomb sounds ominous, had it not been for the fact that tombs sometimes have an “emergency exit”. Don’t believe me? Take it up with Jesus Christ, he’s the one who made escaping tombs trendy some 2000 years ago. Later, we’ve seen it countless times in TWDU, my favorite is this little sequence from 4x12 Still:
Beth and Daryl hide in a trunk (tomb) for the night while a walker horde passes by. When morning comes we watch Beth open the closed trunk (tomb) from the inside, and climb out, into the daylight. That’s car/tomb symbolism paired with resurrection symbolism, and just like this scene from TBOC 2x5 is a retelling of what happened after Coda, the scene from 4x12 Still foreshadowed what were to happen in Coda.
And luckily, Daryl, Carol and Ash’s car (tomb) has an "emergency exit":
This is also something we’ve seen before, back in 7x12 when Michonne and Rick had a similar type of experience with being stuck in a car(tomb) surrounded by walkers:
Later, Ash perhaps gives us an estimate of approximately how long Beth spent in the trunk of the car, or alternatively, how long it took for TF to return to the car to retrieve her:
And it turns out it’s no coincidence that it is Ash who is given the task of being the Beth proxy in episodes 5 and 6. After he’s been saved from the Coda-esque nightmare in the overrun car, they together prepare to leave France. Ash and Daryl go out in search of some extra spare parts for the plane. They start talking about children. As I’ve already mentioned briefly here, having kids and losing kids is the overarching theme throughout this entire season, and I maintain that this is the season where Daryl becomes a father. It’s a huge, groundbreaking development for him, something which makes the following even more astonishing.
Ash asks what happened to Laurent’s parents:
Daryl knows Ash once lost his son, and offers his condolences. He explains how he was there when Carol lost Sophia, and adds that it’s something he wouldn’t wish upon anyone.
Then the Beth callbacks and dialogue parallels kicks into high gear:
And here we actually have Daryl, in TBOC 2x6, adding to Beth’s commentary from TWD 4x2 Infected:
…which in my opinion is a rather extraordinary thing. Did TPTB actually, in a roundabout way, sneak in a proper Bethyl conversation after all these years? Did Beth speak to Daryl from "beyond the grave", so to speak, and Daryl replied? Did Beth actually “speak” to Daryl as he's in the middle of the emotional process of becoming a father? Of all times to include this type of callback, they do it as Daryl is accepting the responsibilities of fatherhood?
And more importantly, why? Why would TPTB do something like that?
Because they’re preparing for her to return, that’s why.
That’s also why they threw in like 1500 super potent Beth callbacks and dialogue parallels in 2x2, which I wrote about in the Green(e)land post here. And as I mentioned, that was the episode with Daryl’s first ever onscreen kiss! His very first onscreen kiss is accompanied by a wide selection of exquisite Beth callbacks, and now they're out here (sort of) discussing parenthood???
And what's more, people, keep in mind that the Green(e)land storyline was PURE symbolism. It did absolutely nothing to move the plot forward, it was exclusively a tool for sprinkling a bunch of Beth references all over the kissy-episode. And again, we should all ask ourselves why!
(Having said that, I don’t think we should downplay his feelings for Isabelle. I’ll elaborate more in a different post, but I’ll say again that I don’t believe one relationship cancels out another. Love can take different forms between different people. He can love Isabelle in one way and Beth in a different way, and they’re both valid. But that’s for a different day.)
But basically, as I keep saying, TBOC is full of Beth callbacks and dialogue parallels, and like I've shown here, they're not chosen randomly.
#team delusional#bethyl#daryl dixon#beth greene#the walking dead#twd tboc#tboc#daryl dixon tboc#the book of carol#tboc spoilers
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Batman endgame is absolutely amazing. I honestly really got down to reading it again, and i was opened to a lot of new things. I hadn't even noticed. The thing about Batman Arkham City endgame. It's so freaking heartbreaking. Let's skip all of that and get down to business. Let's talk about this first panel.
We're seeing such a wide view here. Batman can't help but be vulnerable in front so many people right now. Right now the crowd doesn't even exist. Harley Quinn slapping him doesn't exist at this moment. Commissioner Gordon screaming his name, inquiring to know what went down in there isn't catching his ears. All he can think about right now is that the Joker's dead, so that's why he walks through those doors, not looking at anyone, just laying the Joker's body gently on the car. There's cops who's happy the clown's dead, but Batman isn't feeling no type of happiness, although he should be, even though he said he should let the Joker die earlier. That's not what he truly wanted. Sure he would be okay with the world being free of The Joker, but not him being free of The Joker right?
What is this? Jim mention he wished he could've killed him himself, and Batman head goes down. No, no, there's no denying it. That's Batman mourning the Joker. Jim even apologizes to Batman, but truly for what? Why can't he have his joy that the Joker is dead? Batman stands there the whole time, trying to grasp the reality, and he doesn't want to. This is also mention in this novel.
The exact words in Batman riddler's gambit novel.
The answer had been right in front of them the entire time, and he'd refuse to see it. The parallels had all been there from the beginning _ the bomb in gotham merchant's bank vault, hunting killer croc, Mr freeze research. The puzzle hadn't been difficult he'd just refuse to solve it. He couldn't admit the Riddler was making a play for the Joker's place in the underworld hierarchy, because to acknowledge that would be admitting that the Joker was gone.
Batman has to try to focus on something else. He has to pretend what he's seeing isn't reality. He wants to be angry at something. He wants to believe this is what the Joker wanted, and maybe it was. Maybe it was, but why are you so angry Bruce? It specify informs us in Batman riddler's gambit novel, that Batman didn't want to believe the Joker was dead, even after the body was burned.
The exact words in Batman / Riddler's gambit novel.
Is it possible the Joker is alive? That would explain the deliberate echoes of previous events. But it was unthinkable. Batman had seen the Joker body. Gordon had watched it burn, and help dispose of the ashes. He was gone. Unless he'd employed a disguise or a body double. No, Batman thought. Not this time. There was too much evidence. They had confirmed it every way possible. Then why am I still clinging to the chance he might have survived. He had fought the joker for years, and came close to to death on more occasion than he could count. He should be joyous it had ended. Yet it seemed as if he had lost someone terribly close. Perhaps he had. That's what Alfred and Robin been hinting at, before the arrival of the package. As bizarre as it seemed, as much as he hated to admit. Batman knew that in some twisted way the Joker was still a part of him. They had defined each other for so long.
This wound presents a deeper meaning. It let's us know that even Alfred knows Batman's sick twisted relationship with the Joker. He doesn't want to acknowledge. The wound gets stitch up by Alfred earlier on, but that same wound wounds up bleeding again. The Joker death will always have a hold on Bruce's heart. Bruce will never truly forget the Joker, and the Joker death will always be a open wound.
Why? Is it symbolic? I think Bruce don't want It to heal. Maybe the artist is letting us know that the wound will never heal. The hidden wounds that no one sees.
You have to understand when the Joker gave Batman another job after he passed. You have to understand this exactly what Batman needed. The thrill of it is visible on his face. Batman looked pleased to finally be solving a case that the Joker left him. This is not an angry face. This is a face of interest. He desires to hear more. He needs this as much as he needs to hide from reality.
However when the Joker mentions his death? Batman face shows a deep sadness, like once again he is face with reality.
Part one.
#batjokes#batman#batman and joker#comics#comic books#batman x joker#dc comics#the joker#batmm#dcedit#word's#theories
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Hello! I have a few questions, which I hope you don’t mind [if you do, you can ignore this and/or some of the questions]. I’m just a curious person that finds fun in getting other’s opinions/thoughts on things.
Anyways, the questions:
-> What do you think of Harry, in general? Do you think he’s boring, not so powerful, and just average?
-> I know you like Bellamort, which is valid, but why do you Lilymort [if you even do]?
-> What are your thoughts on Delphini? Like her character in general, her style, background, etc.
-> Who’s your ultimate favorite character(s)?
-> What’s your favorite or least favorite ship?
[Once again, if this is too much, you can just ignore this, I would understand. I don’t mean to be annoying]
Not annoying at all, I’m always ready to ramble about my opinions!
1. Harry is one of my favorite characters, I definitely don’t think he’s boring! He’s certainly magically powerful (i.e. throws off the Imperius curse immediately), and he’s above average intelligence - he’s considered for Ravenclaw by the hat which says he had a good mind. I wouldn’t say he’s brilliant genius level but he’s not supposed to be. With how his character is set up, I think he didn’t need to be on par with Voldemort to defeat him - ideally him coming into his own as a leader, and working together with and leading as many characters as possible to defeat Voldemort *together* and as a joint effort, would’ve been the best conclusion to the series, rather than the last book totally isolating him as it did.
2. I plan to expand on this dynamic in many future metas so I’ll hold off on going into too much detail here, but I recommend reading my metas Unweaving Canon Lily: Parallels to Voldemort and “And Cain Repented Not Of What He Had Done”: Harry Potter As Retelling of Cain and Abel, which elaborate on the dynamic.
It requires very very close reading of the text, as well as catching all the allusions JKR was making (i.e. the extremely central Cain and Abel narrative thread), but effectively Lily is weaved in as Voldemort’s symbolic sister the same way Harry and Voldemort are portrayed as “brothers” and are tied together by the narrative very intricately and inextricably.
This text is meant to be taken apart and woven together again to reveal the true meaning of things - for example, the true meaning of the protections around the Slytherin locket cave as related to Merope’s suffering and abuse in the Gaunt house and Voldemort borrowing Kreacher etc. (which I talk about in my meta Slytherin Locket Save: The Life and Death of Merope Gaunt) isn’t clear unless you use other parts of the text to illuminate it. Voldemort and Lily’s dynamic in canon is similarly one of those parts meant to be put together that way.
(I’d also note that the ship is mostly only interesting if you read Lily as doing intentional magic to defeat him, which I always do.)
3. So I haven’t read Cursed Child and I don’t know many details about Delphini in the play. But I think it’s absolutely believable that Bellamort would have a kid, and in particular that Voldemort would want a kid, especially in GoF/OoTP era when he’s emotional about being alone for 13 years and about his rebirth. I’ve written more about that here. I think Voldemort would be a terrible and abusive parent but one that still deeply loves and is attached to his daughter and would never abandon her. Despite Bella’s “I’d give up my sons as a sacrifice to the Dark Lord” I think she’d be a much better parent, but that’s not saying much.
4. Favorite characters - Lily Evans, Tom Riddle, Harry James Potter, Sirius Black. I’m in a phase of fixating on the former two but my hyperfixations tend to change a lot.
5. Favorite ships - Sirius/Lily, Harry/Ron, Bellatrix/Voldemort, Lily/Voldemort. Least favorite ships - Harry/Ginny and James/Lily
#harry james potter#lord voldemort#tom riddle#tom marvolo riddle#voldemort#lily evans#feel free to ask more/for elaboration if u need#asks
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I would love to hear your thoughts on the symbolism and game design of omori
This is suchh an old ask im sorry it took me so long to get my thoughts tgt let alone write them down hh everything’s under the cut bc there’s a Lot and tysm for enabling me 🙏🏻
just a heads up I’m not gonna talk much about the characters themselves bc there’s already plenty of analysis out there for them- what I am gonna get to tho is the general game itself and a bit of the music. And bc OMORI is a game that covers heavy topics, please be aware of this before you continue reading!
So ofc I gotta start with the first place omori wakes up in — white space, just a simple rectangle on the floor with the essentials within arm’s reach, no responsibilities and no one to bother you. I LOVE minimalistic stuff like this- something so simple can can make you feel like you’re in both the most peaceful and uncanny place in the world. Also the black bulb being a symbol of repression, opposite of a lit bulb being a symbol of a new idea (thank you fandom wiki for this point) is just 👌🏻. And the fact that omori’s friends are right next door (literally called neighbour’s room) if he ever gets lonely shows how they’ve always been there for him, and in turn how much he depends on them.
I think the game does a wonderful job of depicting what escapism is like- Daydreaming of a world full of your own ocs, adventuring through it with your best friends and being the hero of the story where everything goes right for you. But of course this fantasy can’t hold forever as the real world starts to catch up, with stuff like Something appearing in places reminding omori of what happened, red space entrances throughout the story (the ones before the main red space debut as omori sits on the throne), and ofc the moment basil drops the photograph at the start. Side note, I like how Something always disappearing so quickly shows how desperate omori is to repress it, like quickly shoving problems under a rug. Or maybe im reading too much into it and it’s just to add to the creepy factor lol. Also this is one of the games that does mixed media SO well- combining digital 2d art with real life materials like sketching and scanning the animations, clay models for Somethings, real life photos drawn over and filtered etc, it really suits the theme of having to balance the fictional world and the real world if that makes sense. Also the way some scenes deliberately leave in the crumpled paper texture!! Especially for messages about not friends giving up on each other-- its almost like those were thrown away in the trash and picked back up again. Quite the parallel to how sunny locked himself away for four years due to depression and guilt for what he’s done, thinking his friends would never forgive him, then eventually finally coming out of his house and giving himself a chance with reconnecting with them.
Ok here’s where the heavier themes come in so please please stop reading if you’re not comfortable with them! [tw: suicide (or at least implications of it)]
game design time! i absolutely love it when games use the game mechanics themselves to be a part of storytelling- and this game does it with the stab function. I actually got to know this game through watching playthroughs, and at the first forced transition usually people do whatever they can think of to avoid having to press the button, before very reluctantly realising that they don’t have a choice. As the game goes on, players start getting more and more familiar with it, using it to get back to the real world or bc of forced resets and so on. Before long this basically becomes routine and players get so used to it that they don’t even hesitate to press it anymore. After all, nothing bad actually happens, right..? This mechanic gets used so much more in black space, but this time it’s very prominently presented as an escape route, something to get out of stressful situations, something that helps. you might even be relieved to see that option be available to you. And I think that’s terrifying— considering that this is a representation of how.. unpleasant thoughts can go from being unfathomable to something that feels like a natural/normal occurrence. i don’t think I’ve seen any other game that captures this kind of thought process(? there’s probably a better term for this) to the level that OMORI does and im so so glad that the devs are bringing these mental health topics to light.
I’d also love to talk about black space but I think this post does it better than I ever could haha, also black space 2 I love you sm im a sucker for out-of-bounds-but-not-really type of areas (yknow like Undertale’s fun value rooms and test rooms), it’s like hitting the jackpot for easter eggs and subtle lore aughh <3
And I can’t talk about OMORI without talking about the music!! I think we can all agree that Duet KILLS. the high notes as the happiest scenes show on screen………the way the piano is the one that starts the song off and it ends with only the violin……… my emotions man. what if I started crying!!!!! (i did)
Clean Slate is one of my top songs- there’s so much emotion in this and it’s the epitome of acceptance and letting go of guilt while also giving the feeling that you’re in a hospital (ig that’s kinda the point but for such a short song to pinpoint a feeling AND setting so accurately is so grragjgh….)
Other big favs are It Means Everything, Chaos Assembly, Tee-Hee Time, Puddles, Snow Forest and Dear Little Brother :) and actually a lot of others as well but id be listing half the soundtrack and more if I go on
In conclusion OMORI is such a well designed game, I love it and its messages sm it means a lot to me personally, and writing this made me feel like im back in English class again
#asks#my god this is actually LONG. even had to cut some stuff lol#kudos to anyone who actually read this#ignore the inconsistent capitalisation i did this both on my phone and laptop hgkdk
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The witchling and the god [Loki x Witch!Reader] Chapter 22
Summary: The Avengers were looking for someone to help Loki fit in with the team. To become socially acceptable, so to speak. He had been given the choice of sitting in a cell in Asgard or serving some sort of community service probation on Midgard. The Avengers and Shield both felt that as long as Loki was on Earth, he should be under supervision. This is now your job. Why? Because you’re a witch. You’re not sure why this qualifies you, but here you are, giving it a shot. What could possibly go wrong?
Tags: Witch!Reader, Magic, Witches, slow burn, everybody lives in the tower, character development, Loki‘s redemption, Stephen Strange is a friend, Loki and Stephen are frenemies, Tony Stark is a good bro, kids love Loki, Tony has stupid nicknames for everybody, eventual smut
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Chapter’s Note: Funny enough, I started writing this chapter way before Multiverse of Madness came out. There are some magic parallels of specific spells. Beta by @zaria-04
Chapter 22: Questionable Magic
Suddenly the door is kicked open from the inside and your sister appears in the doorway. She walks bent over, and even under the smoke coming out through the doorway, you see tattoos glowing on her neck. She pulls your brother behind her.
Finally Loki releases you and you hurry to meet her. The Asgardian stays by your side, even slightly faster, and together you lie Gabriel on the grass at a safe distance from the fire. As soon as Elizabeth steps out, she takes a deep breath of fresh air. Her tattoos stop glowing as her body takes in oxygen again.
Gabriel's clothes are torn and burned from the flames and his skin is flaming red. He has several cuts on his body that seem too clean to you to be from the fire. Your gaze falls to his forehead and you take a startled breath. There is a symbol burned in there as if it was made by a hot iron. A cross with two bars.
Witch hunters.
"He's not breathing," your sister whines, who has already knelt beside him to examine him. It pulls you back to the present and reminds you to start working. You hear the sounds from the street getting louder, shifting. And out of the corner of your eye you notice movement, probably the fire department.
"Loki," you address your lover without taking the eyes off your brother. The panic inside you hasn't gone away, but you have hope. There is something you can do. "You have to get the people off our backs. Make sure they don't bother us."
The Asgardian merely nods and disappears from your side. You don't see what he's doing, but you trust him to take care of it.
If one of the paramedics takes care of Gabriel, he would definitely die. As great as modern medicine wants to be, it has its limits. And the doctors would not allow you to help, even if you have the more promising methods. They just don't understand it when you go other ways than theirs.
Besides, Gabriel would be taken to a hospital and put on record there. If the witch hunters wanted to verify later if he was really dead, they would find out for sure and come back for him. It's just too dangerous.
From your bag you pull out a jar of paste that you use to cream all the wounds you see, all the burns and cuts. You open Gabriel's shirt, see the crusted blood on his chest. Your breath catches at the sight, but you force yourself to focus.
"Mama didn’t answer my call," your sister tells you between her mumbled words. She has her hands outstretched over the unconscious body, tending to the internal injuries.
"Of course she didn't," you snort, "She doesn't interfere with things like this. Even when it involves the lives of her own children."
You set the jar aside and cast a spell. The wounds under the cream light up and stop bleeding. The smaller ones are already regenerating, the larger ones would take more time to heal, as would the burns. Time you don't have.
"The lungs are clear," your sister informs you.
Loki reappears at your side. "We'll be undetected for a while." He watches you do what you do, but doesn't dare participate in your work. Different types of magic can interfere in a negative way and your spells would be useless.
You try to find out how bad the damage to his head is, if his brain was damaged under the branding.
"His pulse is weak," your sister says, jaw clenched. "We're losing him."
You shake your head. This can't be happening. "We need more time to stabilize him."
You give your sister a pleading look, and she nods. "You have one minute. Make it work."
As you frantically rummage in your bag for something that can help you, Elizabeth closes her eyes, gathers all her concentration, and mutters a spell. A tattoo on her arm moves down to her hand, becoming a dense black area at her fingertips. The same thing happens on her other side. She clenches her hands into fists and extends each of her index and middle fingers so that they cross in front of her. Then, abruptly, a ring spreads from her, a glowing golden hoop that floats in the air around your small group.
Suddenly, everything around you freezes. No sound can be heard anymore, your ears seem to be packed in cotton. Loki turns his head and notices in awe that time seems to have stopped around you.
You come across a vial that you have almost forgotten about. It is a potion you brewed from the scale Gabriel gave you on the day of the Lunar Convergence. Its effect is uncertain. Mermaid magic is as changeable as the sea itself and actually much better suited for curses. But life can be a curse sometimes. With this, you may have a chance.
"Loki, I need your help: make sure they don't get their hands on us."
The Asgardian is watching the fire in the house. The flames are making very slow movements, and upon closer inspection, even the firefighter who was about to step around the corner a moment ago has not completely frozen. Time is just drawn out like a viscous glue trying to hold it in. At your words, he turns his attention back to you and frowns.
"What do you mean?" he asks, but you don't take the time to answer him.
You uncork the vial and let it float in front of you between your fingers. Then you begin reciting a spell in an ancient language. Your eyes turn pitch black and wind comes up. You barely feel it, all of your concentration is on remembering the right syllables. The slightest deviation would be fatal, both for you and for your brother.
Shadows emerge from the ground, taking on elongated shapes, and Loki realizes in horror that they are arms, wrapping themselves around you and your brother, holding you tight. He understands what kind of spell you are casting and silently scolds you for your carelessness in casting it without any protective circle.
He conjures daggers in his hands and attacks the arms. One cut is enough to dissolve the limbs in a 'poof'. Only unfortunately for a new one to immediately grow out of the ground. They are the spirits of the damned that try to capture you. They always appear within a necromantic spell.
Necromancy is a tricky kind of magic - one of the most efficient healing powers; all about life and death, and the eternal circle of it - but also one of the most dangerous if used carelessly. A single mistake can have enormous consequences, such as leaving out a protective circle. Without it, you are much more vulnerable to the damned.
Loki whirls around, but he's not fast enough to keep all the dark arms under control. They are not subject to time, and can move independently. Again and again they reach for you and Gabriel, slowly pulling you into the ground as if it were quicksand.
The liquid in the vial has begun to glow and you move your fingers unperturbed, muttering the incantation as it floats out.
The darker the shadows become, the stronger the vial glows.
"I can't keep time much longer!" your sister yelps. Her expression is strained and she struggles to keep her fingers crossed. A bead of sweat forms on her forehead.
Loki notices that the movements around you are picking up speed, even though everything still seems to be in slow motion.
You let the liquid float in Gabriel's mouth, hoping it will do its job. The dark aura around you remains. You stare at your brother, but nothing happens. He does not move. Instead, you become aware of the arms grasping you. You shift in your seat and lose your footing, immediately sinking deeper. Loki reaches for you. His dagger magically lights up as he frees you.
Your eyes are back to Gabriel. You reach out and grab the shadows that wrap around him, ripping them away with your bare hands before they can sweep him away and bury him.
"Gabriel!" Your voice rough, as if you'd shouted a lot – maybe you have. You weren't paying attention.
In a last, desperate attempt, you gather magic in your hands and slam them down on his chest as if for CPR. A shockwave emanates from you. Loki struggles to stay on his feet, raising an arm protectively in front of his face.
Then it's all over and time returns to normal. Your sister has fallen backward and let go of time. She's getting up and you're both staring at Gabriel. You have dropped to your knees.
All around you, the noise has returned. The fire is crackling, the paramedics and fire fighters are shouting orders to each other, and you hear the sound of a water canon.
Gabriel begins to cough and moans in pain.
Elizabeth breathes an audible sigh of relief as you whisper a prayer. Loki is the one who remains pragmatic. "We should get out of here," he says, looking at a fire fighter coming your way. With the stopping of time and the shockwave, his cloaking spell had disappeared and now you're sitting here as if on display in the garden, probably making a rather strange impression.
"Healer Josiah?" you ask your sister, and she nods wearily.
The spell just now has cost her great strength and you notice you are also reaching your limit. But you absolutely have to get away from here.
You join hands, taking Loki with you, and mutter a spell.
"Hey you!" the fireman shouts with a furrowed brow. "What are y-…" Then you’re gone.
Josiah's healer's house is in Mexico. It's a small farm with a large garden, a place to go for anyone who needs help. However, patients don't usually just suddenly appear in the entry hallway. Someone jumps to the side, startled, as you arrive out of thin air.
"We need a healer!"
The person - a teenage boy - nods and jumps to action to get someone.
Your hands clutch your brother's body. You're exhausted, the spellcasting has taken a lot of your strength, but you don't want to let him go.
Within a short time several people appear, alarmed by the boy and the noise in the entrance hallway. They see your group, see the unconscious Gabriel, the burns, and using a spell to preserve his sensitive skin, they take him away. Loki hands lie on yours to make you let your brother go. You're so wiped out that you didn't even realize you had your fingers clawed into his shirt. You want to get up to follow the healers, but your legs give way under you and you would have fallen if Loki hadn't caught you with his strong arms.
Concerned, another healer steps up to take care of you, but you shake your head.
"I'm fine, just tired. She was in the burning house." You point to your sister, who also looks worn out. She is still sitting on the floorboard where you arrived.
You are overcome with a sense of relief that you are here – at a safe place - and that you are being relieved of your responsibilities. It is now out of your hands. You allow yourself to close your eyes for a moment and lean your head against Loki's chest. Only very briefly.
Someone says something, but you don't listen.
Only when Loki slides his other arm under your knees and you realize you're being carried, you blink up at him questioningly. "We're getting a room," he explains, "You can rest there."
"'m fine," you mumble, but close your eyes again and drift back to sleep.
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Sometimes I wonder if people realize how snobby they sound when they act like people not being able to read into the deeper meanings of shows or books are just being deliberately obtuse or unintelligent. First of all, it’s ableist. Some people literally do not have the IQ to process things that way, and they shouldn’t feel ashamed of whatever way they can and do enjoy their fandom.
Second of all, it feels to me like you’re assuming everyone has had access to the kind of education where you’re taught those things. (And that you had the ability to learn in a traditional class environment) Personally, I had one year of public school, and the rest of my schooling was extremely lackluster. I never had a single class in my life where we read through a book and were taught how to look for symbolism, tropes, or any of the other things that people seem to know about when they’re talking about media. I didn’t go to college either, another thing that’s not terribly uncommon, so the only way I would have learned all that stuff was by studying it by myself.
Now, you might say, ‘That’s how I learned it!” You might be super smart and super motivated because you’re interested in it, but again, it’s kind of ignoring the different ways that people’s brains work, and also their life circumstances. I’m chronically ill, neurodivergent, and have a heck load of trauma. I’ve spent most of my adult life just trying to freaking survive, and when I’m in survival mode, I shut down. I end up only doing the things that are easy for my brain to process in my downtime because I’m so damn tired just trying to get through the basics of adult life.
I’m FINALLY at a place in my life where I have enough safety and time to be able to focus and learn things on my own, and I still end up often using the brain space that I do have to learn things that actually give me a shot at creating a better life for myself, ya know? Skills that I might be able to turn into a way to make money. This is not to say you might not have the exact same circumstances as me and you’ve self-educated yourself about a lot of shit. Good for you. That’s the way your brain lets you do things, and you should feel lucky.
Anyway, just know that viewing intelligence through a single type of lens has its roots in classism, racism, and ableism, and maybe just think about that the next time you’re writing a post about this kind of stuff. Honestly, I LOVE the people who actually talk about the symbolism and other things they catch in TV shows and books etc, because that’s been a really nice way for me to gain a little education about it in a way that’s fun and interesting. There’s a real difference between someone doing a post where they talk through something they loved in their fave show or book and point out all the parallels and color choices and what that means, versus someone basically saying, “I mean DUH. You’d think they haven’t even watched the show. OBVIOUSLY the red balloon represents his hopes for the future.” That kind of energy is not useful.
#fandom life#Sophie has thoughts#that she will probably delete later :P#tldr some of us are uneducated and tired okay?#you don’t have some moral high ground because you know shit
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Caught up to anime chapters! Reading the manga really makes you enjoy every little thing more lol.
I thought the parallel between Rin and Shidou’s characters are pretty cool, like despite Rin not really caring about the abilities of the players around him, he still uses them in his play? While for Shidou, he’s (surprisingly so fucking likeable??) so excited whenever someone does something amazing, yet he never bothers coordinating with them. Idk if this goes anywhere in the future (cause anime only), like if their parallels and rivalry gets explored, but it seems like there would be more Sae/Shidou developments instead? I swear BL likes introducing cool parallels and ideas that are just a one-off thing…
Another thing I found cool about them was how much they really embodied being a striker? I didn’t feel hyped while watching the anime, but reading the chapter and seeing how their entire being just switch to “I need to score that goal” striker mode right after Hiori passed was really hype! It’s everything Ego had been trying to instill into the “lesser players” lol, that striker mentality, living for goals etc. No wonder they’re top 2. I didn't see the same hunger in the other top 6 duos! And of course there's Himsagi whose hype moment is universally felt and doesn't need further glazing :p
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And then I also noticed some parallels between Isagi and Reo? Both of them are very analytical, but focus on different aspects of the game. Since one of Isagi’s main weapon is his spatial awareness, he focuses more on analyzing and finding the ideal positioning, predicting how the match will go, being at the right place at the right time, and then finally using all these information to adapt himself and score a goal. While for Reo, he's more focused on analyzing the techniques of the different players, which ones are suitable for the right play and situation, then adapting (copying) himself based on that to score goals. I wish he continues this scoring goals for himself striker mentality :)))
This style of thinking really does complement his king of all trades talent well and lets him develop his chameleon style. Actually quite impressed how Kaneshiro came up with this/linked it like this for him lol.
I’ve heard about the whole talented learners vs prodigy discussion (again, anime only so dk much) and obviously the Isagi/Rin and Reo/Nagi duos embody that dynamic. I do like this whole pushing each other to get better theme but I also have personal opinions that go against it (like are non-geniuses really able to catch up to actual geniuses?) but well knsr's the cook so we'll see where he takes it.
I actually got a little annoyed when Reo said “but it’s still not enough right? It’s not the soccer you’re after…” I didn’t like how he pushed all the responsibility on Nagi, like as if they’re improving themselves all for Nagi’s sake when it was Reo’s idea and ultimate goal to win the World Cup in the first place? I think it’s not just Reo, but the narrative too that likes placing blame on Nagi when it shouldn’t (like even if he’s the one who initiated their separation).
Anyway… I like seeing the panels of Reo staring at Nagi’s back and calling him his treasure, pretty symbolic of him trying to catch up to Nagi, and a pretty typical shonen trope lol. I mean, it's the same with Isagi/Rin and Narusasu my main OTP ship of all time lmao. So yea, if ReoNagi continues in this direction, it would be cool and I would like their dynamic more :)
But sadly, it doesn't seem like the case for them and that's why my feelings for them are "lukewarm". I'll just have to see where knsr takes them, hopefully it's towards what I like :p
Another personal opinion I might as well just say it lmao, I always prefer talented learners x geniuses dynamics. In that order. Something about how one of them being more "active" and "obsessed" with catching up to the other while the other coolly looks down at them from their perch like an ice queen is more appealing to me. And then we find out later the "geniuses" have always been looking towards and admiring the qualities of the "talented learners" but they're just more quiet about it lol. But sadly, 90% of all the fandoms I was ever in never ever share my vision... With BL, It's all Rinsagi and Nagireo, just like how it was 90% sasunaru over narusasu back in the days...
The thing is I don't even seriously ship any BL ships but I was hoping the fandom can convince me otherwise (because shipping is fun), but seeing all the preferred dynamics I'm noping the f out lol.
Unless.... 👀
Narusasu did seem to have caught up and things are more even now, so I shall have faith that it'll happen with the BL fandom too! In for the long haul/game.
Also, can’t we see geniuses x geniuses match ups?? I’m sure they can push each other too if Kaneshiro wants to write it in that direction?? I want more Rin/Nagi!! Even their manga covers look suspiciously similar to each other’s but different from the rest. Especially Nagi's! And I want more anyone/Nagi I hope EpiNagi delivers in that aspect, I haven't touched it yet besides the movie.
And lastly, Nagi cute lol
What a good boy ;-;
#ms#blue lock#manga#hard to like make predictions and headcanons when there’s over 100 chapters ahead left to catch up on lol#or rather it’s pointless to since it’s written alrdy anyway 🤡
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I always appreciate the nuance and insight you bring to Beatles conversations. And I'm wondering if you can help me find some empathy for George? I feel like I'm just too much of an older sibling for his complaints about how his songs were treated to register as anything other than ridiculous. (Although I'm not the oldest in my family, so I do have some younger sibling experience of my own.) Every time I read about him complaining about how he was treated I'm forcibly reminded of my baby sister, when she was about 7, throwing temper tantrums at the dinner table because she insisted on waiting for complete silence before beginning to tell a story, despite us being a family of six and complete silence being a literal impossibility. Except he's in a professional environment. I have a whole rant about the parallels in this analogy, but seeing him for once acknowledge that he wouldn't have started writing if it wasn't for John and Paul has briefly opened my heart to him and I'm trying to take advantage of it. Getting into that rant would slam it shut again, so I will resist the temptation.
I don't know, maybe I'm wasting both our time sending this ask and my willingness to change my mind about George will be gone by the time you even see it. Or maybe my older sibling perspective just means that I fundamentally can't understand his complaint. But I always feel bad when I know my take on someone lacks the kind of empathy I'd want someone to have for me. So I'm asking for what help you can offer in this probably small window of time. (I do feel bad for him about the Northern Songs' shares set-up thing, that was bullshit, but I'm also pretty sure that John and Paul weren't really to blame for that.)
Thanks!
Hi anon! Okay, I actually am a younger sibling, though I wouldn't call my experience all that comparable to George's in that sense.
Here's my opinion of what happened: John and Paul started writing together as teenagers and also very consciously decided for it to be their thing; there's a quote floating around from Paul where he admits to asking John to specifically not include George in it. I don't know enough about their early dynamics to tell you whether this would specifically have hurt George (I don't recall him ever complaining about how they were with him that early on, though) but it did set up a dynamic where songwriting was a trademark John And Paul Thing, which would have made it daunting for George to start writing and show his work to them.
John and Paul wrote together from very early on but they actually didn't start introducing their self-written songs into their band set-lists until quite a bit later, some time in Hamburg I think. This means they had time to build up their writing abilities until they felt confident enough to perform them. Also consider they, from the start, packaged themselves as a songwriting team.
I'm talking about J+P instead of George right now, because I think understanding the way they worked informs how George felt in the studio. According to him, Don't Bother Me was the first song he ever wrote! This means he was technically about 6 years behind J+P, with regards to songwriting experience, and had no opportunity to test out performing one of his own songs before they took it to the studio. My point being, the circumstances led to George probably being very shy and uncertain whenever he presented his songs to the band and George Martin. Plus, him being alone, he didn't have a confidante to encourage him or give him necessary feedback who could also, both symbolically and quite literally, "sign off" on any finished song he wanted to present.
And I think it was this initial lack of confidence, as well as the catching up George still needed to do in terms of honing his craft, which led to everyone in the studio neglecting him as a songwriter. This in turn made George lose more confidence, commencing a cycle of him showing very little assertiveness and even downplaying his own songs, which probably made everyone else assume he wasn't that serious about writing in the first place and thus offer little encouragement.
Eventually, this led to George altogether losing interest in the band as a creative outlet. He says so much in the Davies bio (so around 1967), something along the lines of "the Beatles is my job; my passion is my faith and Indian music"; all of this, while Paul is getting hugely interested in song arrangement and recording techniques. I think it makes sense that J+P interpreted George's withdrawal in a way that led them to further show only moderate interest in George's songs.
Now, add on top of that that George was initially let into the band because he was deemed the best guitarist out of the three of them. But if Paul is now micromanaging George's solos (something both John and Paul had typically been very shy about in live contexts), to the point of taking over for him, this would be another great knock on his confidence because the very thing that initially made him an invaluable member is being taken away from him. Additionally, Paul especially was increasingly working on arrangements that didn't really have a spot for George (and also, notably, were more tedious for Ringo to record, though he wasn't fully left out as much). And add to that that all their music tastes were beginning to diverge, leading to George playing less music he actively enjoyed; but there wasn't an equal trade-off where the others played just as many things he had written in styles, which he enjoyed more.
What I'm saying is I think it makes sense for George to look back on all of this with resentment and an unshakeable feeling that if someone had vouched for his songs from the beginning – like Brian and George Martin had done for John and Paul – he would not have been led down a path that made him question his own talent and arguably cost him years of interesting work he could have produced. I think befriending Bob Dylan, who seemed to truly understand how to cultivate George's talent, made him realize all of this, which is why you see this delayed anger. It's perfectly normal to reassess the past and with a gained perspective feel differently about it, but it's true that it can be a bit of a non-starter, in terms of conflict resolution if not handled tactfully. What happened, happened, and no amount of self-reflection can change that.
Simultaneously, as George acknowledged, simply being in proximity to Lennon-McCartney ultimately inspired him and helped him as a songwriter, which you can see in how he did in fact catch up to them within a few years.
That all being said, it's fine to think he overly blamed John and Paul for a situation that was in the end everyone's fault in some capacity and that he perhaps took too much pleasure in talking shit about them (and especially Paul) after the band broke up.
But I really don't think it's fair to frame George as simply throwing a tantrum. I think he correctly perceived a fundamental difference in treatment but perhaps failed to see the non-malicious circumstances and communication issues that contributed to this difference.
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Agent H's Book Reactions
Catching Fire by Suzanne Collins
Revolution is rising in the districts of Panem as Katniss and Peeta are selected again for the Hunger Games Quarter Quell
-Unfair, that only Gale calls Katniss Catnip. I, too, would like to call her Catnip
-It's really fun reading the love triangle through the lens of what each boy represents (Gale: rage and rebellion, Peeta: hope and peace) because it so beautifully serves Katniss' emotions and journey. She chooses Gale when she decides to join the rebellion instead of running. She holds on to Peeta in the Capitol/Games. etc. Genius character technique, Collins
-I completely understand why Collins wrote it this way, but I wish that the victory tour had been longer. Like it goes by in pretty much two pages. I was looking forward to them going to each district, because it would help us get to know each district better and see the rebellions first hand. And I think it could've raised some tensions if while on tour, District 12 was being cracked down on and Gale got in trouble, and there'd be nothing Katniss could do. It parallels watching the Games and emphasizes the hopelessness and violence the Capitol is trying to inflict
-Between the victory tour and the Quell announcement, I was really bored. It was important plot set up and I really appreciate how these books dedicate time to Katniss's trauma and emotional well-being. But it dragged on a bit too long for me.
-I really appreciate the posts that point how Rue is the true start of the rebellion, but I don't want to mistake that for the impression that her death matters more than her life. She was a young Black girl, she deserved to live :(
-At first I was like, ugh, this Games feels different than the first. But, duh that's the point!! The first part of this book is about the districts uprising. The second part of the book is the microcosm of the districts, the victors uprising. The Games feel different because it truly is the districts against the Capitol instead of each other
-They say that once the gong rings, the solidarity that the victors showed during the interviews will be gone. But then they're wrong!! Katniss and all work in a team, and they rebel against the Games by showing compassion and solidarity. It's the victors working together to rescue Katniss. It's Peeta consoling the dying victor. It's Katniss taking the time to clean and soothe Beetee and Wiress. It's joking around with Finnick. It's Finnick having Johanna's back. That's the revolution!!
-I like the first book's arena more for how it was so realistic, but I can appreciate just how batshit traumatizing this book's arena is. Who tf thinks of raining blood??? Also I like the set up of the District 12 electric fence to the arena's forcefield. And how them destroying the force field is the literal AND metaphorical destroying the games for good
-Really sometime I should sit down with this series and just connect all the different parallels and symbolisms and set ups
-Peeta continues to be the best and my favorite
-"If it weren't for the baby"- PEETA MELLARK IS THAT BITCH. I LOVE HIM
-Unsurprisingly, I am down bad for Johanna. I want her to step on me
-*Me @me*: You cannot adopt another gorgeous, witty, secretly tragic boy. *Me, sighing, knowing this will not end well, but putting Finnick Odair in my pocket anyway*
-I know it was for the escape plan, but it was so cute how Finnick was obsessively counting the bread each time
-I couldn't tell if Finnick knew the truth on the baby thing, but I thought it was adorable that he seemed to so earnestly believe Katniss' lies, e.g., the baby, hearing the forcefield
-The whole hearing the force field thing is so funny because it has no significance to the plot, it's just Katniss overthinking things again and then having to keep up the lie
-I love Katniss and Peeta so much. They're so ride-or-die for each other before ever having real feelings (on Katniss's part at least) involved. Like the foundation of the relationship is just pure human empathy and friendship in the face of unimaginable circumstances. God damn
-I also really love how as much as Peeta gives Katniss hope, she also gives him hope. She saves him in the games. She makes life in District 12 worth living. It's not just one-sided, they save each other. Couples who mutually inspire each other to live=Top Tier
-I got confused on the ending, but why wasn't Peeta at the tree with Beetee? Finnick went after Johanna and Katniss after they realized the wire was cut. So I can get that Peeta would've wanted to go after them too, but Beetee would've insisted that he stayed put, right? Do they ever explain this?
-See, the rebellion rescuing Katniss feels less like plot armor to me than I think other books would've made it feel, mainly I think because Finnick and Johanna were still down to kill Katniss if it came to it and District 13 is very much also just using her in their Games
-Ohhh, the ending with Haymitch hurts so much. Because Peeta says that he lied to one of them about which one he'll keep alive. And we, like Katniss, know that he lied to Peeta because he agreed that it's Peeta's turn to live. But as much as he loves Peeta, turns out he lied to Katniss and us. The betrayal is real T^T
-The movie gives a cleaner explanation on why Katniss and Peeta can't know about the rescue plan
-Because I rewatched the movie immediately after finishing the book, Strokes of genius from the movie: 1) The little girl saying she wants to volunteer like Katniss (scariest moment of the movie) 2) The graffiti "the odds were never in our favor" 3) The shot of Johanna and Finnick leaning on the tree as they decide on Beetee's plan
-While rewatching, I saw a comment that was like "I can see how these books are beginning to reflect now in our real time." And I was like, hmm, yeah, like obvs we're not having children killing each other in an arena anytime soon (though we seem to be okay with children dying from gun violence and police brutality *side-eye*), but the series' themes of media, propaganda, and violence are very much in play now
-I think Hunger Games should absolutely be taught in dystopian fic sections of literature classes alongside things like 1984 and Brave New World (admittedly, Hunger Games was a little too disturbing for me as a young teen, but then again Brave New World was a little disturbing to me as a young teen SO)
#look i know i am 10+ yrs late on this series and none of what I say is new but let me enjoy anyway plz and thank you#hunger games#thg#catching fire#hunger games trilogy#thg trilogy#katniss everdeen#peeta mellark#finnick odair#Honorable mention to 1st movie's genius moves:#shaky cam#humanizing Cato at the end#peeta touching katniss' braid right before the berries#the berries and Seneca#i'm on a 2nd time binge of the franchise okay#agent h#agent book reactions#why is he called Finnick is it supposed to be that he gives the appearance of being finicky in lov#I don't typically use the step-on-me compliment so know that I am gay and down BAD for johanna
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More of the Twin or Duality Theory with Isabel/Leah/Beth
@twdmusicboxmystery
So, I woke up with something of a new theory in my head. Let's say, just for kicks, that Daryl does end up having a relationship with Isabelle. I'm not any more convinced that's going to happen than either of you are, but humor me. If he does, CLEARLY it's just going to be another Leah. Not something long term or soulmate like.
So, I was thinking about how we always said Leah was both a mirror opposite and a parallel to Beth. And then there's this idea of Isabelle being Beth's symbolic "twin."
We've also talked about how the Leah storyline was originally going to play out much differently (we think) but CoVid changed everything and they had to shuffle things around, right? I remember saying once that I thought originally they would air the Leah storyline AFTER revealing Beth, and that would have changed the whole feel of it. Daryl would have been having this slightly toxic relationship with Leah, while fans already knew Beth was out there. But obviously it didn't play out that way.
So, I was thinking that maybe originally Leah was going to be Beth's symbolic, functional twin, but when everything happened, things got pushed back and rearranged, etc., they scrapped that idea, at least in its first iteration. Obviously, Leah still had a million shades of Beth in her (and Carol too) but she became more of a forerunner than a side-by-side symbolic twin.
See, one thing I always thought and know I said a few times is that I think we're going to need to see Beth and her symbolic twin at the same time. In all the other dualities, they've been on screen together. Lizzie and Mica. Carol and Alpha. Rick and the Gov. Glenn and Nicholas. More recently, Max and Shira.
So, it just never made sense to me that if Leah was Beth's twin, she would die before Beth was even revealed. But again, now I'm wondering if originally the plan was to have them play out together, but that got scrapped bc of Covid, and now they've created Isabelle to take on the role of Beth's dualistic other half.
All I'm saying is that, if so, it would make sense for the question of romance to be there. It doesn't mean Daryl has to take her up on it--I agree that doing another exact storyline like Leah's feels really redundant--but she might offer it to him.
And given what happened with Leah, he might even be thinking that he screwed that up, so maybe he should give this woman a shot, but something about it still just won't feel right to him. Because, you know, Beth. Anyway, that's pretty much it. I still think, no matter how it all plays out, that it's leading to Beth. Just some thoughts I woke up with this morning. ;D
@wdway
It certainly could go that way. I see your logic in this scenario. For myself though I have come more and more to believe that Leah at least in FM was more about Daryl and Carol. He has such mixed up feelings about Carol and Beth. These two women that he loves in different ways.
In the end I feel that in s11 by the time Leah tried to kill Maggie she was much more of a ruthless Carol figure. I think the good he saw in Leah was always him wanting to see Beth in her but she really wasn't Beth or completely Carol but he saw the best and the worst of the two women.
And maybe that is what I'm leaning towards after reading what you wrote. Leah represented the combination of Carol and Beth but ended up being more about Carol maybe Isabelle will be more about Beth. It makes more sense in my head than the way I explained it.
I got the DVD for s11 yesterday. One of the reasons prefer watching the DVD is because my control system for when I'm watching it on AMC+ or now on Netflix has like a two second delay in stopping when I hit the button which drives me crazy. I can't move frame by frame like I used to.
I'm going through and catching some things and I was looking at the little running what I have always called the Beth blur and in this season there's 3 images. A main largest a second smaller and now a third image across the bottom. That's the shot above. When I read what you wrote, @twdmusicboxmystery, it made me wonder if this could possibly stand for the three, Beth, Leah and Isabelle. I don't know just random thoughts.
Another thought is that if that's true about the 3 then that gives us a rule of 3. Just as I believe Daryl will lose Beth a third time to complete the rule of 3. More random thoughts.
@galadrieljones:
Interesting for sure. I know back when 11a originally aired, I wondered if Beth would show up and kill Leah, like how Alice wins the chess game in Through the Looking Glass. She takes the Red Queen, which wakes the Red King, and the game ends, and she wakes up. I wouldn’t be surprised if they shared screentime because of the “twinning” thing.
Here’s a slight variation I was thinking of, given what we know about Isabelle. She is a nun. Or, she’s something like that. We see her wearing a habit in one of the leaked photos, and a light colored hood in some photos Norman has posted from filming.
If she is indeed a nun, this could be building toward a madonna-whore duality of women. Whore is a strong word, but that’s just the name of the trope. Leah fulfills the “whore” aspect, as she checks a lot of boxes here. Independent (in an antisocial manner), selfish, mean, mercenary. There’s also that hint of sexuality between them. She tries to separate him from his family. She is violent. She follows a cult leader, and is therefore susceptible to idolatry.
Meanwhile, Isabelle is a nun. That’s much of what we know about her, other than her appearance: blond hair, blue eyes. She’s pretty in a very “clean” and clear way. We see her nursing Daryl back to health in her habit. She is the Madonna, or the pure aspect of femininity. This could suggest she is asexual, or that there is no sexuality between them. It’s pure, platonic, untainted. She will be independent but in a self-assured way, self-motivated kind of way, not anti-social. Unlike Leah, who is a mercenary, and morally dubious/indifferent/loyal only to herself, Isabelle will be unflinchingly loyal to a cause, to God, to something greater than herself.
Remember Daryl in Rendition, when he tells Pope that he only believes “in himself” now, and how Pope tells him that’s too bad. Daryl’s been supremely messed up by Leah. So Isabelle will balance the scales that have been tipped in Daryl’s psychology, by Leah.
Leah may have soured Daryl on women, or strangers, the prospect of “good people,” which Beth introduces him to in season 4. Isabelle will restore his faith in people, and in women (the divine feminine), which will open him up, make him amenable to romance once again.
I don’t believe they’ll have a romantic relationship, not if she’s a nun. But she genuinely looks a little like Beth, and this will remind him of Beth, and of the more loving, nurturing parts of humanity that Beth represents in his psychology. These parts may have been buried away a little after seeing his ex-girlfriend trying to kill Beth’s sister, forcing him to kill her.
I also had this thought. If Daryl is gravely injured, or unconscious, and he wakes up to Isabelle leaning over him. The way she looks, he might at first hallucinate that he’s seeing Beth, dressed as a nun, hence the strained look on his face in the leaked photo, like he’s afraid. I even wondered if maybe the habit was a hallucination. Maybe she’s wearing a hood, and he hallucinates that he’s seeing a habit. But there’s nothing to suggest that, other than the fact that Daryl has hallucinated before.
In either case, the last time he thought he saw Beth, it was Leah in Rendition. She was in all black, wearing a terrifying mask. Now, we have another Beth look-alike, not in a creepy mask, but in a habit. So we have weight on both sides of the scale now: the mercenary and the nun.
Ideally, then, Beth would be a sort of balance between them. She’s a warrior, but she’s not indifferent. She’s loyal, but she’s not a nun. She’s sexual, but not a whore. She can be a romantic partner but also just, a partner, a best friend, a confidant. She sees the best in people, but when she sees a wolf in her flock, she will not hesitate to kill it.
I think this goes back to the yin and yang theory, that every force has an equal but opposing force necessary to balance the scales. Leah is dark, Isabelle is light. Beth is the yin and yang of them both.
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OUGI STAY DIRECTOR'S COMMENTARY WOO
yay ok so basically i have a lot of thoughts about this fic and i kinda crafted it painstakingly so im gonna point out some stuff i like about it wee (btw go read it if you havent already) (oh but like. so spoilers. soooo spoilers. of course.) (wrote this awhile ago but i just wrote that analysis post so i feel i might as well just post it now. might do a part 2 with some other misc stuff too)
the leaves - this was funny because, i wanted to have like a recurring symbol throughout the fic, and i kinda felt like writing some prose for it, even as i figured it would annoy some readers and not really fit ougi (well, that much, ougi is pretty flexible). however it would be very fitting for ougi if she used it to break the fourth wall immediately, and so it sort of became a joke in that sense. but what that paragraph says still stands! the symbol is still very real... to be blunt: ougi is the leaf. woah crazy to be less blunt: araragi's symbol throughout the series is the tree. the gi in his name means tree for fucks sake (this is also why i put that footnote in there!). ougi is not a tree, but she's not separate from it either. she's a branch-off from it, hence she is the leaf. and she needs to seek comfort from the cold uh oh! i'll get into this more later
on moving on - ougi fails to get araragi to do so. of course, it had to happen this way, because that's the whole impetus of zoku owarimonogatari, and i wanted this fic to be something you could insert into canon without really disrupting much of anything. but that's not the only reason she fails. she reflects on it, wondering if her approach was wrong, or if maybe staying over made him more attached, but i have my own theory on why: ougi couldn't convince araragi to move on because she had also not moved on. we see araragi in zoku not feeling ready to leave behind his high school self, holding regrets for what happened. ougi is just as full of this regret, regret she couldn't find somewhere to call her own. and she is holding on to the past just as much as he is! she's struggling to find a new paradigm for the whole fic! she keeps catching herself before she criticizes araragi too hard! she's putting off thinking about what the hell she's going to do next with her life! she's just as not ready to move on as he is! they are mirrors of each other because of course they are!
place to stay - well, the fic is called ougi stay so i should talk about this. i will just mention that it is canonical that ougi's regret in zoku owari is not having found a home. it's super glossed over because nisioisin is allergic to delving into ougi's character for some reason, so i wanted to expand it a little with this fic. anyway, the araragi residence is warm and welcoming and lively and happy, which, in a moment à la sodachi, only serves to remind ougi how much of an outsider she is. "it's not actually her home," she says at the beginning, and she keeps reiterating that she's a "guest" at their house. so when she's exhausted all her thoughts about her problems, little doubts start to creep in, and then she's stuck feeling bad about how she has no home again, oops. and then in a moment of cruel universal irony, she is given a "home" in the form of the mysterious classroom she ambiguously created. and trapped there. alone. for like longer than a full day. nisioisin why did you do this actually this was pretty mean. really mean actually what the fuck i guess it is fitting for ougi who is a User of Irony™, and also because, if you will notice, ougi is detached from ougi's narration. THIS WAS VERY INTENTIONAL AND I LIKE IT A LOT. it kind of parallels ougi's detachment from their self. quotes from zoku owarimonogatari here: [ougi to araragi] "Well, you foolishly saved me from being absorbed by the darkness, didn't you? "My uncle supported that decision, but it's not like the specialists were unanimously on board. "There's probably plenty of notables who think it would have been best if something as dangerous as me had disappeared. "I'm one of them, incidentally. "But this time, I functioned as your failsafe. "It proved that there was value in you keeping me alive." i'm sure this way of viewing yourself is not problematic in the slightest and will have no consequences down the line but yea there's a kind of detachment in how ougi talks about themself. "there are notables who think i should have disappeared. by the way i am one of those people" is what they say, not, "i think i should have disappeared." they're viewing themself from the point of view of a specialist here, not from the point of view of... themself. and yeah sure its their job but holy shit ougi. are you ok??????? i think there was already value in you being alive just by you being alive but you know. you could also say this is ougi's perspective as an oddity, which can be very function-oriented, or rather they have to be because there's a big asshole black hole that will swallow them up if they're not. but ougi has a self now (i mean didn't she always) and is safe, at least for the time being, and so should not still be thinking like this in my opinion!!!!!!!! or have been thinking it at all in the first place :( so yeah that's the point behind the detached narration. it's the "but that's not in character for me, so i won't do it" and the general fourth wall breaking. a kind of ironic detachment to parallel ougi's detachment from her self, and how that detachment is kind of not good for her! (and i mean, doesn't it just kind of fit for ougi to narrate like this. i mean how else would she do it, really.) there's a really interesting line in onimonogatari episode 4's audio commentary, with nadeko and ougi. in the scene at the end of the episode where ougi shows up, ougis like ok feel free to switch back to the main commentary now and nadekos like ! but! but look it's the scene! it's the scene! and ougis like huh? wym? 'me? (literally says たしが?instead of わたしが?) and then says i'm not the kind of character who gets embarrassed or excited when i appear on screen. i end up seeing myself as someone else. perhaps self detachment is something you can expect to learn when your existence is originally defined as inherently tied to someone else's. but that's probably, not, necessarily, a good, thing! and it shouldn't stay like that forever, at the very least. that leads us into the next point. we go from self-detachment into...
beddy bye - eepy ougi.... guys did you notice that right after ougi tells araragi that sleep means changing she falls asleep despite saying she can't. did you notice. did you ougi understands she can build a self through experience but then disregards it because she can keep working either way and technically doesn't Need it. this is the opposite of character development :)! because for ougi to say what she says in zoku i can't imagine she would have been able to come to any healthy conclusions about herself the main thing she's been doing that i'm critiquing is disregarding herself, detaching from herself, not taking care of herself, basically. but for just a moment, she sees herself (araragi) cold and shivering and shes like. ok fuck it just one time is fine. and she gets comfort from him too, in the form of warmth, and the sound of life. (it's also important that araragi is asleep because it centers her more. he's technically not doing anything, and its more of a soliloquy for ougi-- her comforting herself, if only by a technicality) one of my favorite things about these two is that you can really notice how similar they are. araragi's got his insane self-sacrificial bent the whole series, and nearly cops to it again in ougi dark. ougi in ougi dark is doing some insane self sacrifice kind of thing! hey! it's almost like these two are the same person... and it applies here too. these two are silly and take care of themselves easier when it's done through the proxy of their doppelgangers. well, it works for now. ougi makes the first step of reaching out to herself, even if it is a very very small step. and just that tiniest act of checking up on herself, just the smallest teeniest act and experience of self-comfort makes her realize oh i am so fucking tired actually. it's no coincidence that her taking care of herself comes in the form of sleep-- sleep is change. she's changing. there's still hope for her, she has the ability to learn to take care of herself better. like, she really really really needs to sleep. to rest. has she even rested in the six months since she was born? she's always fucking rushing everywhere, on the grind, girlbossing, etc, yes haha, but like seriously. she's neglecting this very basic thing. people can't just work nonstop for 6 months and be fine. i mean hell last night she almost fucking died. and was very scared, actually. and had an emotional outburst, for the first time in her life, got so mad she couldnt even do her smiley ougi thing. got so mad and hurt that she, despite all her eloquence and composure, actually stuttered, actually broke her cheery monotone and let the raw hurt into her voice. and then got saved and had no idea wtf was going on and everything was just a tumultuous mess. so she's got that on top of those 6 months, and god that would fucking drain you! you almost DIED. FOREVER. not going to hell. you almost DIED.
my favorite line of the fic is "The magnitude of six months, bearing down on me." because yeah. god. just the sheer force. the weight. the scale. how far it reaches, the extent. of everything. it just hits you. six months. six fucking months do you know how long that is??? i cannot stress this enough. six months and the only six months you've ever known. six months and that would have been the end of your whole life. six months!!!!!!!!!!! i wouldn't be able to move under that weight either girl i woulda just blacked out and i wouldnt be surprised if this was not just a "holy fuck i'm so tired" moment but also a "holy fuck i'm alive. i didn't die" kind of moment. because ougi is just kind of pondering it vaguely and distantly in especially the beginning of the fic, but idk if it's quite hit her at that point yet yk. but yeah. the moment is a radical shift for ougi not because it's instant change, it's not like instantly ougi gets better. that's not how it works. but ougi does START to get better here. and that kind of hope is what ougi and ougi's arc is about, to me. you help others come to terms with their lives. bad things happen, people fall to darkness, but they survive, they find a way, they figure it out. you don't disappear, you aren't erased; you get to be you. you get to live.
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oh my god. jo. JO.
i have so much to say about the last few chapters of mftf and yet i can’t find the WORDS??? i managed to catch up today, whilst drinking my coffee and it was an EXPERIENCE. holy crap??
first of all — the POETRY?? every time i read it i feel like curling up and DYING in the best way possible. the parallels between namjoon and taehyung and the life and death theme were something i had my suspicions about for earlier, and i am so so glad to be RIGHT. it feels great. but also that is so symbolic and big brain of you, you’re an actual fucking GENIUS.
AND RHE LATEST CHAPTER. I AM SHOCKED. FLABBERGASTED. like i see the messiness and the angst unfolding straight before my eyes, and i’m here for it. it’s torture, because i love these characters with everything in me, but i can bear it. it’s so FUCKING GOOOOOD, and the way you write is just so INSANELY perfect?? like every detail you capture is so amazingly crafted and UGH i could write on of yn’s thesis portfolios on YOUR ARITING atp. (also reminds me, i loved that but about her and her classmates analysing their work together!! it’s so sweet, and also just reminds me of my own classmates and friends <3)
this is getting a little long and i’ve only written abo ur HALF of what i wanted to say — i’ll cut it short here and catch u next time, once again with incoherent thoughts and fanatic wailing <3
— saf 🤍
Saf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Listen you could have said hi jo just wanted to tell you that your last three chapters were hot garbage and i still would have been like !!!!!!!!!!!! SAF CAME HOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO TELL ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY CHAPTERS WERE GARBAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i hope you're doing okay and i am so so happy to hear from you <3
ahhhh i love that you were noticing the life and death motifs!!! i was wondering if doing the poetry analyses took the punch out of that for readers. and believe me if i'm a genius i'm the dumb kind bc i, like namjoon, can barely boil water without making a fire. i am d u m b dumb most of the time lol
two more sections to go!!! i hope you'll enjoy them too, take care of yourself and pop in any time!!!
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He didn’t know how to feel about the fact that Louis seemed to react more upon hearing his cat’s name being mentioned than he had when he’d seen Wardo again. Or maybe he did know how to feel but wasn’t quite ready to allow his chest to fucking cave in like it wanted to if the pressing ache beneath his collar bone was anything to go by.
Louis sounded surprised that Wardo had kept the cat, having probably assumed he’d passed it onto someone else or even just set him loose one day. It would be unfair to blame him for that (although Wardo would try) for two reasons. One being that Wardo and Ulysses had famously never gotten along when they lived under the same roof as Louis. The second reason was that, for a few days after he’d returned from Lowell, he’d honestly considered just getting rid of the damn thing. He didn’t want to have to come home every day and find Louis’ fucking cat waiting for him, a constant reminder of what he’d lost.
But then Ulysses had sat outside Louis’ closed bedroom door, scratching at the wood and mewling pathetically, not understanding where the man had gone. Wardo hadn’t had the heart to send him away after that.
Still, he hadn’t quite managed to detach Louis and Ulysses from each other, their identities messily entangled in the weeks that followed. Wardo had kept Ulysses in the apartment but had cursed out the feline and thrown angry words towards the ceiling when the stupid thing got underfoot and annoyed him. As if he could redirect all the anger and hurt he felt towards Louis to the man’s cat. Ivy had been the one to slap him upside the head and told him to cut it out, that it wasn’t Ulysses’ fault that his owner had abandoned him. He’d been a little nicer to the cat after that, but the way Ulysses trailed around the apartment, making himself at home amongst Wardo’s belongings still got under his skin.
Then, there had been the time where he’d left the kitchen window open and Ulysses had scarpered off, whizzing down the fire escape before Wardo could catch him. He’d agonised over trying to find him, like if he managed to track Ulysses down then it would magically fix everything he’d convinced himself he’d ruined between him and Louis.
Eventually, Ulysses had returned, dirt matting his fur and the stench of the city sticking to him and Wardo, who was a fanatic when it came to literary themes and parallels and symbolism, had been stupid enough to think that Louis might follow soon after. He never had.
He was here now though, and so Wardo could look him in the eye and tell him, “Yeah, I’ve got him. Wasn’t going to just shut the door on his face, was I?”
At last, the flash of satisfaction he’d been waiting for, brief as it was, hummed under his skin like electricity. He lifted his head a little higher, feeling taller.
Refusing to bow to the self-pitying bullshit Louis was spouting about Wardo not wanting to see him - because, really, what had given him that idea? - he couldn’t help but scoff when Louis actually requested that Wardo read his book. Because of course the universe couldn’t just push Louis Denver back into his path. They had to throw published author Louis Denver his way. He thought of his own half-filled notebooks back in his apartment and how they would never see the light of day, never mind the inside of a publishing house. It looked like everything really had worked out for Louis.
His lips twisted into a smile and he waved a hand.
“S’alright. I don’t need to burn paper to keep a fire goin’ anymore. Keep your book, it can be someone else’s kindling,” he said, venom coating his words and showing his true anger for the first time since Louis had had the audacity to tell him hey, Wardo.
At the mere mention of his cat, Louis blanched. Named after James Joyce's modernist epic, Louis had adopted the ball of white fluff when he was a mere baby. In contrast to whatever pseudo-masculine, Captain of the football team, heterosexual persona Louis had tried to push during his college years, anyone who saw him with his cat knew he was a big fucking softy. The kitten had lived with Louis and Wardo throughout their last year of college, and had quickly become part of the furniture. Sure, Ulysses was mean and had a tendency to bite, but he was Louis' baby.
When he left for Lowell, Louis hadn't expected that was the last time he'd see his cat again. Louis had spent many a night curled up in his childhood bedroom, posters peeling on the walls, his legs hanging off the end of his single bed. He'd cried for his irreversibly fucked relationship, cried for the young man he'd been before his older brother had sunk his claws into him, and in his weakest and most pathetic moments, he cried for his cat. It hurt too much to think about what had happened to Ulysses, or where he'd ended up. To find out would be to contact Wardo again, and Louis didn't think he could un-slam the door he'd slammed in his face.
"You've got my cat?" Louis asked, hand dropping from where it had previously been scratching behind Capote's ear.
He couldn't even bring himself to be upset at the way Wardo had brushed him off. A tiny kernel of hope unfurled in Louis' chest. He'd kept his fucking cat. Louis didnt' know what that meant, but it had to mean something. Chekov didn't just leave all his guns lying around for no goddamn reason, did he?
"Look, it's clear you don't want to talk to me. I'm sure I deserve that." he winced, wishing he'd chosen his words more carefully. "And I'm sure Ivy can fill you in on all the sordid details later."
His teeth dug into his bottom lip, blurting out the rest of his sentence before his courage failed him, "Just make sure she gives you the book, alright? My one pitiful request."
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Death to All Might, Rebirth to Yagi Toshinori
So about All Might. I’ve been extremely wary of talking about what could happen to him because straight up saying “I don’t think he’s gonna die” is asking the universe to spite me. Plus it also feels like a room full of people turning to stare at me as if I said the Sun isn’t a star. Man has death flags everywhere, I know.
But, okay, *Bill Nye voice* consider the following:
Mr. Yagi here, if he overheard everything, just received the final nail in the coffin on his career. His time as the symbol of peace is not only over, it was in fact partially responsible for the current state of things, since he once did so much on his own that his absence now makes heroes and civilians alike ill-prepared to cope. I think it was very apt for that one guy to be wearing an All Might shirt--he was acting as a mouthpiece for the latent societal problems embedded in All Might’s legacy.
We know already that he’s been feeling useless. I love this scene and although I’m not gonna talk about it right this second, remember what Aizawa says about just “being here” being enough:
And we know from conversations with Inko that Toshinori is also reframed his purpose around looking after Izuku. But in the end, Izuku rejected his help, and it was his classmates instead who were able to save him. Now the very progress of humanity is rejecting him too. You may me wondering how on Earth I don’t see the logical conclusion of all this being his death. Hold on. It actually has a lot to do with the fact that we’re all expecting it. Nighteye himself saw it, and despite any contrary convictions anyone might have, the plot doesn’t seem to be veering away from that end. All Might Is Gonna Die, says absolutely everything.
It’s occurring to me that I have previous experience with this kind of plotline that probably little to no one else in this fandom shares, being that I’ve read a certain book series in which the main character is told in no uncertain terms that he will die (no, I’m not talking about hp). The series in question is T*e Und*rland Chronicl*s (censoring so it doesn’t get put in their side of tumblr) and I’m sorry but I’m about to go on a shameless tangent about it and spoil the ending for you.
So in this series there is a prophecy in every book, each one having something to do with war and conflict, and so far all of them have been right. In the last book [mc] finds out that it’s prophesied that he will be killed. Lots of the things in the prophecies are convoluted and metaphorical, but no, this one literally says “when the [mc’s title] has been killed.” He spends the whole book coming to terms with this, and he gives into it, only to find himself waking up in the hospital instead. “Wow, plot twist. /s” you may be thinking, and yeah sure, the mc in a kids book survived, big shocker. But it doesn't end there. After the war, there are peace talks, but they escalate until the two sides are on the verge of declaring war again. And [mc], bless him, has just been caught in the middle of all of this the entire time. He’s sick as shit of fighting, of watching the suffering and death of people he cares about. He draws his sword against both of them angrily, gives a speech saying he won’t take a side, and then promptly breaks his sword across his knee: “There. [mc’s title in the prophecies] is dead. I killed him.” He’s giving a huge middle finger to everyone there, to the man who wrote the prophecies, to the entire fucked up culture of it all. And so something that was taken literally turns out to be metaphorical. That is, if you still believe in the prophecies at all.
Hopefully you’re catching my drift here. What I’m saying is, even though this other series has nothing to do with bnha, it goes to show sometimes it’s the most absolute certainties that are red herrings, and a “death” can consequently be a symbolic one. In All Might’s case, it could be the death of hero society and a rejection of his own past. In other words, character development for Toshinori himself that reflects on the way the world is changing, too. Also there’s the fact that the mc from that other series I’m trying not to name has an honorary title, and I’m imagining that role he occupied “dying” could correspond to something that amounts to, “All Might is dead. I (Yagi Toshinori) killed him.”
And here’s another thing: we also have to ask ourselves what good a dead Toshinori is to Izuku, narratively speaking. Yes, Izuku has spent his whole life idolizing even the more toxic parts of All Might, and his idealized vision of his hero does need to “die.” But how about Toshinori as a father figure? Izuku regretting that his last interaction with Toshinori was to reject his help may drive home the fact that he shouldn’t go off on his own, but at this point it’s kinda redundant. If anything it would negate some of the progress that was just made because it’d make him extra paranoid about losing other people too. To be honest, the whole “Uncle Ben” trope, the mentor/father figure who dies and gives the mc a reason to do better, is so tired. Experiencing the death of a loved one really doesn’t deserve to be romanticized like that. I might as well admit that I’m speaking from experience, and let me tell you, losing someone you love suddenly, when you weren’t around, and with unfinished business--it makes you paranoid as hell that it will happen again. It literally gives me nightmares. Y’all, I cannot stress enough that trauma does not equal character development. Granted, just because I know this doesn’t mean Horikoshi does, but in general he does seem to lead his characters toward healing.
Okay, back to the present. Toshinori is turning away from UA. He likely feels useless and rejected. We can infer that what happens next will involve Stain, and we have a couple of extra clues to go with it: Stain considers All Might a true hero, and has stated that he would let All Might kill him. And since Horikoshi loves his parallels, we also have this fight between Endeavor and this random villain who admires him so much that he wants to die by Endeavor’s hand:
This suggests a confrontation in which Stain challenges All Might to live up to himself as he once was, so that as a hero he can vanquish Stain and symbolically overcome society's perversion of that role. But based on what All Might has learned about the system he upheld, Stain is wrong. All Might is not a “true hero” in the sense that the societal issues Stain witnessed exist not in spite of All Might, but (in part) because of him, because he took too much of the responsibility for himself.
Stain probably had no idea about the personal cost of All Might’s lonely burden until after the fact. Maybe he’s seeing it now. So then perhaps the confrontation would be more about Stain claiming he’s just as fake as the rest. Either way, Toshinori has the opportunity to denounce himself and be rid of “All Might,” to stop living in his own shadow. Nighteye’s vision has been defied before, and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the combination of society shifting + Toshinori’s own conviction is enough to do it again and work fate in his favor.
He is not All Might. He is Yagi Toshinori: quirkless, worn down, and directionless except for his dedication to Izuku. If he survives his interaction with Stain, he can resolve his imperfect mentorship by confessing about his shortcomings and simply supporting Izuku as a part of his family, not as his teacher (as Aizawa said, just “being there”). And that’s how you really get character development, for both of them. I mean, shit, imagine Toshinori straight up telling Izuku to stop calling him All Might.
#disclaimer: I have a lot of emotional investment in dadmight#so I am hella biased#but hopefully I also have some unique insight to share#all might#yagi toshinori#bnha#mha#bnha meta#bnha 325#bnha 326#lin speaks
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The Lifeguard And The Rip Current: Our First BIG HINT That Billy Is Alive
IMPORTANT: If you haven’t read my post “The First Rule of Analyzing Stranger Things: The Upside Down Is Symbolized By Water,” please read it before you continue. Thanks!
Billy has just come fresh from the water, beaming with pride. “Did you see that?” he brags to his mom. “That wave was at least seven feet!” When she says they have to leave, he begs for ten more minutes. Reluctantly, she agrees.
As he grabs his surfboard and runs back to the water, his mom calls, "Billy?”
He pauses. Instinctively, we feel that whatever she says next is significant.
“Watch out for rip currents!" she finishes.
"I know!" he answers cheerfully.
Then he hurries to the water, gets on his board, and swims away.
Weird exchange, isn’t it?
Everything in film has meaning. To tell a story using film, you can only use sight and sound. That means sets (especially location shoots, like a beach), costumes, dialogue, etc., are all chosen deliberately. If chosen well, they will clarify the story instead of muddying the waters. In other words, if Billy's mom goes out of her way to mention rip currents, you better sit up and pay attention.
Okay, so what does it mean? Why did the writers include this moment?
To find the answer, we must define what a rip current is.
The graphic says, “Rip currents are powerful currents of water moving away from shore. They can sweep even the strongest swimmer out to sea.”
Interesting. So they’re currents of water with a violent pull. Dare I say it, they could even sweep your feet out from under you.
Now where have we seen that in Stranger Things? (Skip to 1:30 in the video below.)
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Yep. I’m saying what you think I’m saying.
When Billy catches the railing, the floor in front of him even looks like water. Study the screenshot below carefully--
See what I mean? The floor is ocean blue, and the dust patterns look like ripples. This is a purposeful design choice with an undeniable meaning.
The Upside Down is the ocean. The Mind Flayer and His servants are the rip current.
This revelation puts a whole new spin on victims of the Upside Down. Not only can we describe them as drowning victims; we can also say they drowned because a rip current swept them out to sea.
Alright then! Keep the metaphor going. Suppose a rip current swept you out to sea. What would increase your chances of survival?
You’re a strong swimmer, and you've learned how to handle rip currents. You know to stay calm and swim parallel to shore until you’ve escaped the current’s pull.
A lifeguard saw you and is coming to rescue you.
A lifeguard.
A lifeguard.
Okay. Let’s take it slow... BREATHE... and unpack what this means.
If any victim of the Upside Down can escape it on his own, it’s Billy. In fact, the Duffers have already foreshadowed that he will.
1) Billy knows how to deal with rip currents. What does he say when his mom warns him on the beach? “I know!” He doesn’t even sound worried. He sounds cheerful and confident, like escaping rip currents is second nature to him.
And that makes perfect sense. He grew up beside the ocean. He’s probably known about rip currents since he was old enough to swim.
We can’t say that for someone like Barb. She’s probably lived in Hawkins her entire life - as far away from the ocean as you can get. We don’t even see her swim in the Harringtons’ pool in S1. Does she know how? We never find out.
2) Like I mentioned above, Billy is a lifeguard. A lifeguard’s job is to save others from drowning. In the symbolic structure of Stranger Things, where ‘drowning’ means ‘dying in the Upside Down,’ that translates to: Billy will save others from the Upside Down.
3) Billy is so good at swimming that he teaches others how. When he’s flirting with Karen in S3, we find out he gives swimming lessons at the pool. It’s his side job in addition to being a lifeguard. In the symbolic structure of Stranger Things, that translates to: Billy will not only save others from the Upside Down; he will also teach them how to save themselves.
4) Billy is a surfer. He’s learned how to ride the waves... and symbolically tame them. Even when he falls in the water, it’s nothing to be afraid of. He just gets back on his surfboard and tries again.
No other character understands water like Billy. We could even say water is his element. It’s so central to his being that the Duffers chose to represent his mind as a beach.
The message is clear--
Billy will ultimately survive his encounter with the Upside Down. In future seasons, he will even tame it.
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P.S. The strategy for escaping rip currents foreshadows how Billy will ‘return to shore’: “Swim out of the current in a direction parallel to the shoreline.”
More on that soon~~
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