#i need good omens 3 rn

[plantyboii28]

Another long post about the ineffables and what i want from s3 bc i love them and i have many thoughtsTM:

[spoilers for s1 and 2 of good omens]

Right so i was thinking about the final scene and how this sets us up for a reunion/reconcilliation in season 3 - where i think we all recognise azi needs to do some apologising, and that got me thinking ab the patterns in their relationship (stick with me here).

So we all know that throughout series 1 and the flashbacks in s1ep3 they have this sort of dance they do where crowley approaches az and suggests something or pushes a line in some way (see: the arrangement, the holy water etc) and azi refuses and rejects the idea and then comes around to it eventually. The only time we see a break in this pattern is with the scene outside the bookshop (' when i'm off in the stars i wont even think about you') after the bandstand breakup. Considering the dance theyve been doing for thousands of years, its not unreasonable for crowley to have thought azi would then change his min about running away together - but he doesnt. This to me shows that a) its always crowley that drives their relationship forward, and azi is more hesitant (see: you go too fast for me crowley) and b) the pattern they have set up means that crowley cannot recognise what is hesitancy and what is unwillingness - obviously aziraphale loves crowley, but he isnt and has never been interested in running away.

Moving onto season 2, aziraphale starts to take on a more active role - hes the one who insists they help gabriel, and says hes taking the car - and crowley now takes on the opposite role, begrudgingly agreeing with azis plans. This is a reversal of the pattern we saw last series, however when it comes to the final scene, the lines become somewhat blurred. On the surface, aziraphales plea that crowley go with him to heaven and crowleys insitance that 'you cant leave this bookshop' seems a direct reversal of the 'we can go off together' scene from series one - but in terms of emotional honesty, its still very much crowley whos driving the relationship, hes the one expressing his feelings and hes the one who goes in for the kiss. Like i said in a previous post, the issue in this scene is that theyre both saying what they want and not listening to eachother: if we look back the pattern has always been one of them suggesting or asking for something and the other responding, whereas in this scene their both talking over one another (metaphorically speaking).

So my thought process is that by the middle/end of series 3 we will get a true reversal of the roles, with aziraphale finally being vulnerable and expressing his love for crowley, and (even though it breaks my heart to consider it) i think initially crowley wont forgive him.

All in all i think we're heading for one of the most devastating/beautiful reconcilliation arcs and its going to both heal me and break me all over again (hopefully).

[plantyboii28]

just a thought, they had to hold gabriels hands to do that mircale together right? so if they do a joint miracle in series 3 that means- that means- theyll hold hands with eachother??

"apparently if we do a miracle together it all works a bit too well" listen LISTEN i think this is why. i think the magnitude and power of that miracle they did together is what alerted the metatron and why he has come to separate them by all means, because they have not realized yet quite how powerful they are together and what that could mean!! this is why, i think???? they used to do each other's miracles and temptations for each other, but never with, and that could change everythign and could get in the way of certain Ineffable Plans (that i don't think are necessarily God's, looking at you villain metatrash)

[fallen--starlight]

as a good omens fan i have to say i'm appalled at the fandom-wide general reaction to the go3 production pause & generally the entire gaiman situation. some of y'all are making it more than a bit too obvious that you care more over your show being made than victims of SA, & this isn't even something that shows a bit this something than some people have made explicitly clear. there's other priorities right now

[musicawizard]

LMFAOOO😭😭

(credit given to whomever created the meme, ofc!!)

[jo-the-nerd]

ALSO SPEAKING AS SOMEBODY WHO ONLY KNOWS THE BARE MINIMUM OF GOOD OMENS AND THE INEFFABLE HUSBANDS i just wanna say im pretty sure bg3 has their equivalent in bloodweave (gale [the one played by tim downie] + astarion)

my defense:

autistic book nerd and king who has the Audacity to fight God + chaotic theater gay that gives cat vibes and may need Therapy

aziraphale and gale sound like the type that would have solidarity in old man knees . idek if thats canon for aziraphale but it sure as hell is for gale

aziraphale and gale rhyme holy shit thats becoming a legitimate bullet point AJSJSJSJA

the book nerds live in their own private library . gale has a whole ass wizards tower while aziraphale has his book shop (that iirc he doesnt even sell the books in it ???)

crowley and astarion are the same fruit men . i also dont know how to explain that crowley just gives me 8 strength vibes as well . even if he was an angel you cant tell me this man can lift more than three books at once

"fuck the gods that did nothing for us. what if we chose each other" vibes from the both of them (idc what the other endings for gale are hes denouncing mystra in my canon bc i say so <33)

is aziraphale the type to have a cat . he seems so . how about a cat w wings (<-a tressym) . theyd absolutely bond over that

if you replaced the cutscenes of astarions little hissy fits w crowley i think itd honestly still be pretty in character

if i manage to pirate good omens one of these days i will be confirming if my hypothesis is correct <33

Ooooh now we're talking :)))))) I'll try to be brief (< lying)

yup that's them.

'may need therapy' we all know they do, the 'may' is only there bc they either won't admit it (Aziraphale & Gale) or would have to get dragged kicking & screaming before ultimately weaseling their way out of it looney tunes style (Crowley & Astarion)

Aziraphale is an old man in all aspects except one (biologically), however Crowley is the same age and he would definitely have old man knees. he doesn't know what to do with his joints half of the time due to being snek

yeah there are no books being sold in that bookshop fgfjkfggnv. like, it's all first editions and what-not so i totally get not wanting to give any away but then why open a shop??? instead of a collection???

yk what, fair enough. Crowley is a noodle, those arms aren't doing much more opening doors for his angel. tbf he can lift multiple potted plants at once but that's more spite than anything

i could also totally see Astarion doing the Crowley Walk(TM)

"fuck the gods that did nothing for us. what if we chose each other vibes" so true, no notes.

aziraphale doesn't have a pet (yet) but I think he would love a cat (I mean, he's got Crowley hanging around, basically the same). A tressym is just a very peculiar step up from that (consider: it has it's own wings to match him and Crowley, which is really adorable!!)

crowley's hissy fits are great and can likewise be replaced with Astarion's.

similiar additions which would probably still be in character:

C slammed Aziraphale into a wall for calling him nice

C went out into the middle of the street when he got really frustrated/anxious and exploded lightning from his body

C agreed to take care of the bookshop, not selling any books etc. but tossed any books he was holding into some corner whenever

both of them evaded the immediate ire of their higher ups by pointing out a technicality that amounted to 'this word is explained to be different from the one you're using, but through a miniscule footnote on the last page of this giagantic book'

Aziraphale has an incredible hard time overcoming the trauma and toxic mindset upheld by his superiors, including how he views himself and his partner (that one's just sad, sry)

Solid ground for a hypothesis I'd say :))

[plantyboii28]

i love it when i cant make my thoughts coherent but other people say exactly what i was thinking

wow so I have like 3 analysis in progress that touch on this topic but I really need to just talk about it rn with its own spotlight.

Aziraphale has this entire life that he's built for himself on earth, after armageddon he's thriving. When we catch up with him in Season 2 his first scene is literally him going to check in with one of his tenants, and throughout the season we see that he has a decent relationship with nearly Everyone on the block. He has an entire life for himself all hashed out and pretty.

Crowley... does not. His cold open in Season 2 is back in St. James park, checking in with Shax, finding out the gossip on Hell. He doesn't have his apartment, he only has his Bentley and the few plants he could fit in it. He doesn't have any other human friendships. His entire life and everything he loves to do is built entirely around Aziraphale.

This is something that I just find so fucking thrilling because when it comes to their characters and where exactly they are in their arcs right now, it's essentially like looking into a mirror.

Aziraphale knows exactly who he is when he's on his own. He nurtures his own relationships with humans he sees often, he's a nice landlord, he loves books and classical music, and hot cocoa. But, Aziraphale still holds onto the ideals of heaven. He still cares about doing good and being forgiving. He still cowers and jumps at the opportunity to help heaven, not because he wants to but because he's supposed to because he's still an angel.

Crowley has nothing. He has his car, which he drives to a secluded location to park every night, only to drive it right back in the morning. He's only even vaguely recognizable because people associate him with Aziraphale and this is fine for him, he could care less. He doesn't really need to know who he is or process his traumas, why would he when he can put all his attention and focus and love and care directly into Aziraphale? His friend, who has always been his friend, the one person who has always stood by him. Who cares about heaven and hell, he has Aziraphale.

When we finally see them on their own and without the influences of their head offices, we see the opposite of what we'd expect, and nearly the opposite of the outcome we see in episode 6. Crowley is the one constantly checking in with Hell (wether he likes it or not), and Aziraphale is the one who's living care free without even thinking about heaven. When he does something good that he wants to report, he just calls Crowley.

this whole dance of Crowley not knowing who he is without Aziraphale and Aziraphale knowing who he is fundamentally but not knowing how to break free from the confines of Heaven that stop him from truly embracing Crowley in the end, it's just so delicious.

[xielianslver]

oke so i finished binging Good Omens cause I wanted to see what it was about and now I have a new special interest and I hate you all for doing this to me fuck you (thank you i love Good Omens so so much aaarrgghhhhhh)

[p4nishers]

if we dont get a cheek kiss in s2 im climbing on top of the highest mountain in my area and swan diving off of it

[mossflower]

stares at my bio

[ritz-writes]

stumbled across smth i planned for my lmk soulmate au that i figured id share. ill probably write it one day, but in case i dont here u go

[lesbicosmos]

good omens s2 ending theory!!

spoilers, obviously

okay im not taking credit for this theory at all ive seen it everywhere (@/gachousama_ on tiktok has a really good video on it!!!), this is just my take on it

but the theory is that in the last few scenes aziraphale wasn't entirely making his own choices, and that the metatron had used a miracle on him or put something in his coffee

one of the first thing that made me question whether azi was really himself was that he was so quick to let go of the bookshop. real azi would not have left it so quick after all these years.

also, he starts acting different as soon as he's given the coffee by metatron. to start with he seems reluctant to even go outside and talk to him, he seems to just want to stay in the shop with crowley, but then after he has the coffee he seems much happier to talk.

and during the scene with crowley, i don't think real azi would have stopped crowley talking even when he had something to say, even when he's excited id think he'd still want to listen to crowley first. then there's the way he talks about heaven again, as if he's been brainwashed and all the "two sides are bad, we're on our own side" ideology him and crowley have shared for most of the show is gone. and when he leaves with metatron he keeps looking back to crowley, like the real him knows that's what he wants but he can't because every time he looks back at metatron he's under his control once again.

then there's just the fact of how suspicious the metatron is. he would not be that calm about crowley being there in the first place but that look he gave him as he was leaving with aziraphale was so devious, he was definitely planning the whole breakup thing to happen, like he knew crowley would refuse the offer and azi would take it on his own. just the fact he's wearing a black suit aswell, sure he said it helps him blend in with the humans but i think it's more symbolic than just that and he's actually up to no good.

overall i don't trust the metatron AT ALL and don't blame aziraphale for how it ended bc i don't think it was actually him making decisions

[ru-inn]

if you haven’t watched good omens go watch it right now.

[pocchi-poket]

Spoilers Good Omens s2

I just finished the season, well...

Like, Neil Gaiman really saw us all saying stuff like “Good Omens should be more like Our Flag Means Death!” and went like “Ahahaha, all right :)”

[stopthefeeling]

just read slow show for the first time, gonna throw myself out a window

[mwagneto]

GOMENS OFMD GHOSTS DOCTOR WHO ALL AIRING AT LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING TIME LEAVE ME ALOOONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[retrowebz]

if we don’t get Night of 1941 (Part 3) I actually don’t want s3 thanks