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teen-heart-throb-mr-hyde · 1 year ago

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sir danvers is a plot device, not a twist villain: a brief essay.

can you tell i'm so tired. sorry not sorry for being extremely long winded. content warnings for discussion of SA/SH and homophobia beneath the cut.

there’s a lot of interpretations of jekyll and hyde that i disagree with. these disagreements range from a benign acceptance that some people have a different view of things than i do, and some of them genuinely really frustrate me. the idea that sir danvers was actually a terrible bigot or predator, with all of that information being passed onto hyde during their thirty second interaction, making the murder a Cool And Based thing, actually, falls into the latter category. it both embellishes minimal canonical evidence while ignoring what we actually know to be true, occasionally plays into some really nasty tropes, and is clearly just born out of a desire to shield hyde from criticism.

first things first, i’m not going to pretend like the type of guy sir danvers was, an old, presumably white british aristocrat, was a saint. if he was a real person, or even a fleshed out character, he would probably suck at least a little bit. but to put it simply, sir danvers is not a character, he’s a plot device. we know nothing about him. he exists to be murdered, to raise the stakes, both for utterson, proving to him that hyde is genuinely dangerous, and for jekyll, having this be the moment where he finally realizes he’s gone much too far. he exists for a couple paragraphs as a victim of this terrible crime, as a symbol of hyde’s monstrousness and jekyll’s shame, not as a real character. that is the purpose stevenson made him to serve.

we get a description of the murder from two perspectives: from a maid, and from jekyll. from the maid, we understand that the murder occurred some time near 11, and the inciting incident of the crime is seemingly sir danvers just asking hyde for directions in a friendly manner.

and that’s literally it! the guy asks someone for directions at night, and for his trouble he is murdered. i really think any reading of the maid's account to paint sir danvers badly is grasping for straws. 11 is really not that late to be walking home, or going for a stroll, and asking kindly for directions a stranger is both a totally mundane interaction, and one the maid finds hard to misconstrue.

"It did not seem as if the subject of his address were of great importance; indeed, from his pointing, it sometimes appeared as if he were only inquiring his way;"

again, i think that like sir danvers' character, we need to stop looking at this interaction and the maid's reaction to it through such a literal lens. stevenson makes a point at how in this moment, the maid feels at peace, that "never had she felt more at peace with all men or thought more kindly of the world." right before she witnesses such a vicious crime. sir danvers' "innocent and old-world kindness of disposition," solidifies that for her and makes what follows all the more horrific. it's textbook dramatic irony.

from jekyll's perspective, we get nothing of the actual events of the interaction. more so we're told of his internal process, what was running through his (or hyde’s) mind in the moment and aftermath of the crime. specifically, we get this passage:

"I was conscious, even when I took the draught, of a more unbridled, a more furious propensity to ill. It must have been this, I suppose, that stirred in my soul that tempest of impatience with which I listened to the civilities of my unhappy victim; I declare, at least, before God, no man morally sane could have been guilty of that crime upon so pitiful a provocation; and that I struck in no more reasonable spirit than that in which a sick child may break a plaything."

this is really the nail in the coffin for me. while the exact words exchanged between hyde and sir danvers, and really anything of sir danvers' character are left a mystery, we know for a fact that jekyll is an unreliable narrator. specifically, that he wants to paint himself as the better persona, to say that he is at least partially blameless and remorseful for hyde's action. why then, would he frame the murder like this if there was some way to salvage him being the good guy out of it? jekyll puts it in extremely plain turns: sir danvers did nothing to provoke hyde but speak to him, and hyde killed him because he was impatient, angry, and cruel, things about him that we already knew to be true. jekyll has no excuse for it, it is truly just an insensate act of malice.

a common (and in my opinion, Straight Up Weird) interpretation of sir danvers' and hyde's interaction is that sir danvers is a predator. sir danvers' "friendliness" and "civility" is really stevenson's secret code that he's making a creepy pass on hyde, presumably not taking no for an answer, and hyde's reaction to this is to attack him. frankly, i think stevenson is a bit smarter than that as a writer, and wouldn't hide something that intense, and different from what is portrayed on page, under layers of hypothetical victorian code language.

but other than that, this really bothers me. the vast majority of j&h fans on this site, where i've seen the "sir danvers was a creep" theory toted the most, are overwhelming queer. in turn, a lot of people interpret the narrative of the book as a queer metaphor, whether through gender or sexuality. jekyll has a part of himself that he has to hide from the world, a part that he's been made to be ashamed of. he has desires that are taboo or "undignified," and he takes chemicals to change his appearance to a form he is more comfortable with. in this light, jekyll becomes a sympathetic figure, a queer icon, to many readers, including myself. so it's frustrating to see this paired with a thoughtless use of the "older gay men are predators" trope. not only is it gross, it's genuinely a poor analysis of the actual events of in book, as i've explained above. in fact, the "queer predator" trope is something a lot of j&h fans accidentally fall into while somehow trying to be more progressive. (see any time people act as if in the musical, hyde and lucy's relationship would be fixed if they were both gay men or lesbians, while ignoring the actual text of the show.)

finally, i really think this interpretation comes down to one source: the woobification of edward hyde. people like hyde! at least, they like a version of him they've interpreted in their head. "he's not evil, he's just misunderstood!" "he wouldn't kill sir danvers in cold blood, provoked by nothing but impatience! hyde would only do that if he did something really awful, and actually sir danvers might have had it coming, so the murder was Cool And Based, actually!"

this characterization of hyde is narratively spotty, to say the least. there are more instances of hyde's violence, beyond just the murder, which stands out as the most brutal. what about the little girl he trampled? or the woman selling a box of lights while he's waiting for lanyon who he "smote in the face"? did either of them do anything to provoke hyde's Cool And Based righteous violence? they didn't, because it's not righteous, it's not Cool, nor Based. it's unprovoked cruelty. and if i'm being honest, to me, the fact that hyde kind of sucks is a feature, not a bug. personally, i like him because he's, for lack of a better word, evil. do i think there's more to him than that? yes. do i think he can still be sympathetic? also yes. but i think trying to soften his flaws by making the worst thing he does on page justifiable or reasonable is silly. declawing him as a character not only capable of great acts of violence, but one who enjoys them, really does him, and the book as a whole, a disservice.

anyways. tl;dr (because god knows this has been long as hell), hyde killed sir danvers in a random act of cruelty, not because he was The Real Villain all along. sir danvers is more of a plot device than a person, and trying to characterize him in a way that both misinterprets vague, minor events and larger canon can play into gross tropes, as well as erasing more complex aspects of hyde's character. in the end, i'm not the boss of you. if after all of this you still interpret events this way, and i'm aware you can do whatever you choose with fan adaptations, i don't really care. this is just take that really frustrates me based on the points above, and it's even more frustrating to see so many people to adopt as some sort of pseudo-canon.

#this post is so much longer than intended. anyways enjoy #jekyll and hyde #dr jekyll and mr hyde #meta

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wolpatinga · 7 days ago

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ok look (syscourse warning)

i know jekyll and hyde doesn't depict a DID system as per the DSM5

jekyll retains memories of what hyde does

he's using a potion to transform. that's not a capital T Trauma

it promotes the "murder alter" idea that all systems are dangerous

the novella predates the official diagnosis of DID or MPD

i've seen what people are saying. i get it. both singlets and systems are saying to stop talking about this. the novella is bad system representation, end of story

but i personally won't let it go. i'm not saying you have to agree with me, or that you can't post about j&h not being a system, i just want to state my opinions for a bit on my own blog

my therapist likes to go over the differences between capital T Traumas and little t traumas. a buncha little t traumas can hurt too, but the DSM doesn't recognize little t traumas

also. if we're saying to disregard the DSM and the idea of DID because it didn't exist at the time of the novella's publication, then we shouldn't cling to the DSM's criteria for DID to label jekyll a singlet

like. we didn't have the concept of clinical anxiety for a long time, but we had the concept of demonic possession and hexes. we didn't have the concept of transgender per se, but we have had trans people for centuries. you get the picture. if it looks like a system, sounds like a system, acts like a system, maybe we can call it a system

what is the point of the DSM, specifically? its to put a specific label on a similar pattern of behaviors that have been seen across many cases for the purposes of helping people better live their lives. a clinical diagnosis is only as helpful as it furthers healing. anything beyond that is unnecessary, so says my therapist

i don't want to go into it, but i've had big T Traumas. my therapist explicitly said that i meet the DSM criteria for DID, but that i shouldn't focus on the label. what matters is figuring out how to live a healthier life

looking at the story of jekyll and hyde as a story of a dysfunctional system helps me specifically as i figure out how to live a healthier life

hyde doesn't start trouble in the novella. he was walking home and accidentally crashed into some kid, then spent the rest of the evening trying to politely make people go away. he was walking about one night and some old guy started bothering him. hyde told the old guy to leave, putting on a defensive display, and when the guy didn't, hyde defended himself. he was already stressed because he knew jekyll was trying to kill him, and we don't know what carew told him that night. hyde is not a murder alter, he's antisocial and just wants to be left alone

hyde becoming jack the ripper is entirely the result of adaptations and the media following the jack the ripper case. hyde just wants to be left alone. seriously. there's nothing in the novella explicitly stating he was frequenting brothels or gambling or pestering people or literally doing anything except sometimes going for walks. all that other shit is adaptations and headcanons

this interpretation of hyde very closely aligns with one of my alters

we know very little about jekyll's background. we know he suffered little t traumas by being railroaded by his family into a particular life and a particular public image he must curate. we know he clings to religion and shame, more little t traumas

we don't know if jekyll suffered a big T trauma, if that matters to you in terms of letting him carry a system label. the man is fifty, and utterson tells us he had a troubled past

but we do know jekyll explicitly sees hyde as a separate entity. or at least, that's how i interpret all of the last chapter of the novella. the only thing i think he's lying about is the idea that hyde is explicitly evil

jekyll goes back to the church, which was one of his sources of traumas (Traumas?), which convinces him that hyde must be killed, that only one can remain

this interpretation closely aligns with another alter of mine

looking at hyde as a protector for jekyll has helped me negotiate with those two alters. jekyll and hyde is the tragedy that we're trying to avoid. its partly needing to work on oneself and partly needing to find allies, but jekyll could have been saved. i could be saved

if jekyll approaching hyde like he were an alter would have helped him not kill someone and commit suicide, people can interpret him as a system. hyde is set off by jekyll trying to kill him, and that stress causes him to lash out at carew. if jekyll treated hyde like a human being with respect, hyde wouldn't be a murderer. if hyde wasn't a murderer, jekyll switching in the park wouldn't be a panic, wouldn't force him to switch in front of lanyon, wouldn't kill lanyon, wouldn't cause jekyll to give up, wouldn't have hyde commit suicide

tldr: its a fucking headcanon. jesus christ

why do we have to keep relearning the same lesson of "headcanons are just headcanons and you can't go policing others' headcanons". why do i keep seeing posts saying "stop having this headcanon" in the jekyll and hyde fandom. what is your guys' problem

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strangestcase · 2 years ago

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My Dark Lord, I urge you to speak of the misadventures your mind takes you to whenever you sit, wrapped by your humming thoughts of wrath (tell me about the jekyll and hyde adaptation i BEG you)

OH OOF! I have so many ideas buzzing in my head I barely know where to start! It’s structured like a musical theatre play but idk about the songs, I just wanna sprinkle in some musical numbers here and there…

Basically the story would start as the book, with Enfield telling Gabrielle about the incident of the door. A reenactment of it happens in the background as she narrates and we can see how she’s changing the story to make Hyde look worse. Gabrielle perks up when she hears the name “Hyde” and immediately runs home to her safe, and re-reads the will out loud. I think she could have a solo song about how much she cares about Henry and it would imply she has a crush on him.

So next she goes to ask Lanyon about it and as he starts shittalking Jekyll, he shows up. And then he assures her it’s all fine, that Hyde is a good guy, that there is nothing to be worried about (and to some extent, he is right). She’s not convinced tho so that night she decides to meet Hyde; he falls in love at first sight, of course. As she asks him what he’s doing, where he lives, etc, she starts to flirt and act all gentlemanly. Still, we can tell this guy is basically gloom personified. So YEAH, I switched up some scenes. I think Henry and Hastie arguing about the former’s theories (while Gabrielle tries to interrupt to ask wtf they’re talking about) should be a duet. And Henry is introduced with a dance number!!!!

The following weeks, Gabrielle basically goes conspiracy theory mode and goes around collecting evidence of what Hyde is doing by night… what he REALLY is doing is just show up, go to a nightclub, hook up with people, befriend the occasional goth, be a jerk, nothing much really. But the rumors are ridiculously overblown. One night she goes to a masquerade to meet up with Henry (he’s going to wear the cheesiest glitteriest matador costume because who ever said my Spanish ass wasn’t funny?) and tell him of all the stuff Hyde “does”, and he nervously brushes it all off. Truth be told, Henry is starting to fear what Hyde can be capable of. Oh, he also apologizes to Gabrielle on his behalf, saying that “he’s an incorrigible flirt”. She doesn’t really buy it. Insert big dance number in the masquerade I guess.

So the following night. Hyde is framed basically. Someone kills Carew and they find his broken cane -it is Henry’s cane ofc- near the scene. People also claim to have seen him around (he indeed was around) and to have seen him kill the old man with sadistic glee (he didn’t do that). What really happened is that someone stole the cane and later used it to attempt to mug Carew, then panicked, and attacked him, then fled the scene without taking anything. The whole police force now tries to hunt for the man- Of course Gabrielle is mega suspicious because she had caught notice that Hyde, despite his claims that he “loathes Jekyll and his stupid sunshine attitude”, was weirdly protective of him and tended to pick fights with people who had wronged Henry earlier (add the cane thing into the mix- it was a present from Gabrielle, and now she’s jealous and angry and. You get it). They can’t find Hyde, obviously, and the rumors now escalate to shit like cannibalism.

Henry is starting to get paranoid and is kind of terrified of Hyde even though, as I have stated before, that’s literally him but on a different font. And just a jerk really. He decides to close the back door to his lab. And have it walled. So he’s walking around the park when. Um. Transformation lol!! It would be the first time the audience sees it and it’s confirmation for the plot twist that we all know and love… also jekyll and hyde are played by different actors. Edward fucking loses it and tries to reach the lab. Just to see the door walled and suddenly remember that he just fucking had it walled SHIT!!!! Damn. Then Lanyon receives a mysterious letter, something about going to Henry’s lab and getting some weird potion out. The potion is small humbug candy shaped pills btw. Here would go a solo in which Hastie goes over his friendship/rivalry with Henry and explains why he thinks he’s gone nuts, but he’s interrupted by Hyde. He claims he needs the potion and that he has to use it to be safe again. Lanyon asks “why?”, and Ed replies “Because I am the dreaded Edward Hyde” right before taking the potion and transforming. Lanyon freaks the fuck out, panics, calls Henry an out of control monster, and barricades himself behind some plants. Henry is so hurt by this he decides to lock himself up forever so that this monster can’t hurt anyone else (…I reiterate Hyde is literally him but emo and mean).

So what happens next? A few weeks pass. Gabrielle pays a visit to Hastie and finds him in a panic, saying weird shit like that Jekyll is Hyde or whatever and she goes hey what?? Hastie says that she can ask him herself: he’s ran back to the laboratory. “You better bring a weapon, in case it is Hyde who opens the door.” Now say it w me kids: Gabrielle to the rescue! She goes into the lab to see a very sad, very gloomy Jekyll… that’s not the sunshine golden retriever boy we saw in his intro number. He’s all bundled up. And. Well. Miserable. Also the lab is a mess! Someone has been tearing it apart! He breaks down in tears and Gabrielle is like ???? What is going on. She tells him that Lanyon said something about Hyde and. Jekyll admits he can’t lie any longer so he decides to explain everything. There is a flashback scene of the first transformation- Gabrielle stands around Henry who details how he drank the potion and BAM! Shortie now. Since Jekyll and Hyde are played by different actors, Henry can move aside and keep talking to Gabrielle as Hyde re-enacts the rest of the events of the night. Two solos ensue: one in which Henry details why he did the experiment (he wanted to really be his emo self! Awwww) and that now he suffers the consequences (he can’t control his transformations) (that’s why the lab is kinda thrashed) but that its all self inflicted so he has to suck it up; one in which Edward talks about how his uh. Nightly escapades went from fun to miserable as people judged him for the way he looks and acts. And saying that yes, he’s been a dick, but that holy shit He Doesn’t Kill People. Are You Crazy. I think the two could be intermixed or something since two actors. But it ends with Henry saying something like “I can’t carry on without you”.

There is a happy ending after all. Hyde might be scary, but he‘s the dark side we all have, and you have to live with it. You can’t pretend to be someone you aren’t, after all. Henry and Hastie reconcile (lots of tears involved), and Gabrielle comes to forgive Henry -even though she’s still angry because he didn’t tell her anything at first!!!-. Big musical number here. Henry’s outfits btw are now a little darker- showing he now isn’t scared of embracing his true self. They’re all in love also. Henry’s last line in the play is something like “It’s great that I don’t have to become Hyde anymore!” Fade to black.

The BOOM. Red Lights of Evil On. Fake fog machine on. Hyde’s leitmotif plays and. Hyde emerges ominously from the dark. His “signature” moon themed outfit on. He scowls -as usual- and says something like “The Moon is always there… even when you can’t see it.” Then fade to black again as we hear him evil laugh for the first time. That guy really doesn’t laugh much.

DONT WORRY THO that’s just to scare the audience. Post-canon I think they all go on silly adventures and whenever Hyde shows up it’s like 🙄 Henry is on emo mode again guys

THATS IT!! Ummm that’s what I have for a plot. I’ve spitballed a lot here rn lol soooooo. Um. Tee hee.

#jekyll and hyde #the curious case #dr jekyll and mr hyde #jh #long post

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bansheeoftheforest · 3 years ago

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I Am Once Again Giving You London Gang!Jekyll Content

Okay but AU where Jekyll accidentally starts a gang though. He just helped people on the street way too often and then one day someone who opposes the Society just.. gets absolutely destroyed by a carriage out of nowhere. Jekyll gets a box with money and a note that refers to him as 'boss'. There are three routes this could then go.

Route 1: Jekyll is HORRIFIED, he did not want to start a GANG, he does not want to be a gang BOSS, but he can't tell them off because firstly, he doesn't know how he'd even do that, and secondly, they just KILLED SOMEONE, who's to say they won't kill him, too?? Jekyll must now try and figure out a way to solve this problem while Hyde has way too much fun (until he realizes the gang wants him dead for lighting their boss's building on fire).

Route 2: Jekyll is the most oblivious man on earth. He thinks one of the Lodgers gave him money as an apology. People who oppose the Society keep dropping dead and Jekyll keeps patching up the same people over and over who really like him for some reason, it is business as usual with how weird everything in his life already is. Someone (maybe your Crawford guy??) keeps trying to point out all the murders and link them to Jekyll but life hates this man specifically and nothing ever gets looked into because of the most ungodly amount of coincidences ever.

Route 3: Fuck it, he needs the money. He'll just wear a mask whenever he's duking it out in gang fights. He is surprisingly good at fighting, or maybe this could tie into the idea of Jekyll having been in a Scottish gang as a kid, but either way he mops the cobblestone streets with his opponents. He becomes one of the most feared and notorious gang leaders in London, and has a habit of targeting aristocracy that he knows are corrupt and abusive from meeting them as Dr. Jekyll at fancy events. Everything is all fine and well until Brokenshire approaches him saying they need to protect the doctor because clearly those in his social circles are being targeted. Sitcom level hijinks ensue.

(Bonus because I know you love your crackships: Jekyll gets challenged to a gang fight and meets a man in a tophat. He struggles a bit more than usual, but ultimately beats him. He is then held at gunpoint by this guy's sister demanding to know how he bested a trained assassin and whoa wait despite this guy having a bruised face now courtesy of himself he is actually very handsome haha ummm wait a minute did he just say that out loud and maybe invited him to get drinks as an apology for nearly kicking his teeth in uMMM- (bi disaster Dr. Jekyll strikes again!!))

Jeks. Jeks, my guy, thank you for making me laugh so hard, this is just... glorious. I love it all. Oh my god.

I don't know that route is best-- I honestly love the oblivious route bc of all the hijinx and Crawford wanting to rip his hair out in frustration and especially if it is a Syndicate au and it's the Crawford Starrick I based him off (which would make a lil less sense since he is gang leader tycoon and probably could have Jekyll killed but sssuuusshhhh) but I also love Henry just... Getting a goddamn Phantom Of The Opera-esque mask, deciding to go absolutely bonkers, painting entire alleyways red with the blood of his enemies, etc etc, and I absolutely love the idea of Brokenshire directly or indirectly approaching him asking him to protect himself, like they know that Jekyll's persona is well feared and a gang leader but they don't know that it is his gang that is targeting people so now Jekyll is the one sending assassins after abusive and corrupt aristocrats but also has a mission to protect himself from himself. Nice. I absolutely love it. I love it all. And I just... Hyde being do giddy until he realises that the gang wants him dead??? Fuck yes. Give me it all. I just love it so fucking much jfc i cant put it inTO WORDS.

Ok. Ok can we please combine the oblivious route with the masked gangleader phantom being the terror of london route??? Henry at first being completely oblivious, not realising why everyone that has ever insulted him and his work are suddenly disappearing one by one, Crawford wanting to rip his hair out in frustration bc "GUYS IT'S FUCKING JEKYLL HOW IS NO ONE SEEING IT" And jekyll just goes "ahah don't be silly Ricky, I'm not a gangleader lol". Henry being completely oblivious as the Lodgers suddenly get stalked by the gang members, only to be protected by them from other gangs or anti-sciences dudes, the Lodgers retelling the story to Jekyll who just goes like "oh wow man. Huh aren't those the people I have been patching up a lot lately. Strange. What a strange coincidence :)" but then a gang member gets really injured and Henry saves them from death and the gangmember is just... going like "wow, you are the best gang leader I have ever had, you are so much better than everyone else." and henry is just like "ahaha i'm a WHAT NOW"

Cue Henry deciding that, fuck it, if they already think of him as a gangleader why not take advantage of it. He has already been in gangs as a kid so he knows how they work. Quickly becomes a gangleader Tycoon, the lodgers/Rachel/Robert are all confused as to why people suddenly have stopped targeting them for robberies and shit and as to why Henry suddenly has a lot of money he spends on the Society and the bills. Henry telling them not to worry about it. He hears about a dude who suddenly has been swiping through all the ot her London gangs like a hot knife through butter, suddenly his gang is targeted so they are challenged to a gangfight. Henry beats the absolute shit out of him, he has him pinned to the ground when he hears a gun loading and he feels the hilt against his back. He is too busy staring into the beaten up guy's eyes to really care, wow he is so hot, the gangleaders demand that he takes off his mask or he gets shot. He instead lets go of the guy and just... Stands up, brushes himself off, tells them "ahaahh thanks but no thanks. also please stop destorying my gang we literally have not done anything provoking to you."

Anyways they agree to have their gangs work together (oh my god what would Henry's gang be called??? I imagine them wearing the colour blue bc the Rooks are green and the Blighters are red (since it's a specifically a syndicate au lol) but they probably would wear red if it's just tgs anyways off topic hehe). Henry invites them to a drink, his tab, they agree, they find out about all the accidental bullshit that Henry accidentally started and just... Yes pls. Also Jacob and Henry getting drunk and flirting like nobody's business, maybe Henry asking if Jacob likes guys and if he doesn't, is his sister single? Evie almost kicking his teeth in, Jacob laughing his ass off. Yes please.

ALso almost completely forgot the absolute scooby doo mystery of the twins trying to figure out who Henry is since he wears a mask and disguises his identity. Imagine them just being like... Who’s that pokemon? It’s dr. henry jekyll-- WAIT IT’S DR. HENRY JEKYLL????

#Gimme the twins giving Henry a hidden blade. Gimme them giving him a cane sword.#Gimme Henry's and the twins' gang beating the shit out of blighters #Man I really want to know about all the sitcom hijinx in all of this #since the twins work with Sergeant Abberline i can imagine abberline and Brokenshire being pals and colleagues #Brokenshire secretly working with Henry (who he doesn't know is Henry) to eradicate corrupt nobles #Abberline working with the twins to break up gangs and to bounty hunt and shit #so much sitcom hijinx with abberline and brokenshire trying to hide that they are working with their respective gangs #until they are going to meet the twins/Henry respectively. All five ends up being at the same place at teh same time #its the pointing spiderman meme. Henry and the twins are laughing their asses off #banshees faves #banshees au #ask #thejeksburyguy #syndicate crossover au #gang au

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wehatejulietsimms · 4 years ago

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A/N: i'm gonna respond to this in sections bc it's quite long so bare with me.

Howdy y’all, 🤠 again. Yes, I didn’t in fact die. I’m sorry though that I kept getting sidetracked and couldn’t submit this until now, my boss decided to keep dumping her work into my lap. So I just wanna preface this by stating that I’m going to try and say what I want to as coherent as possible, but I have pretty severe ADHD so I’m not always as easy to understand as I think I am in my head, and I often go off on tangents, over explain things and circle back to topics randomly without realizing. Im basically going to go over their relationship over the years as I said previously (I’m not gonna go into detail about every single scandal and shitty thing Juliet did over the years, because we’d be here all year. so I figure I won’t cover them here, but rather let people ask specific questions if they want to. Remember, I was present for pretty much everything so feel free to ask.😊), but I’m also going to do kind of a mini deep dive into Andy’s behavior and actions (because although the snakes will hit you with every excuse in the book, and tell you that you’re looking too far into things and that it doesn’t matter, it does. The way a person acts in general and towards people around them is very relevant when talking about someone’s health, happiness, and well-being.) To start off, let’s take it all the way back to the time before Juliet’s reign of terror, when Andy and Scout were still together. In all honesty from what I saw of them together (and I saw pretty much everything they posted, I’m only a year younger than Andy, and I was quite into him when he was on MySpace and such, and I always watched anything with him and Scout together because they were fucking adorable lol) they had a really healthy relationship. Not once did I get weird vibes from them. The way Andy acted toward and with Scout, you could tell they really loved each other and were happy together. They had nothing to prove. It just was normal. (For any of you who are younger, or didn’t come into the picture until Andy was already post-scout and would like to see some videos of them together, you could generally search on YouTube for it, but also there’s a specific channel on there called like bring the milk tea or something that has videos of old Andy blogs and also Andy and scout on stickam and such. Worth a look if you’re curious) They weren’t constantly all over each other like possessive pack dogs *ahem Juliet ahem* and whenever Andy mentioned scout he didn’t need to shower her in compliments. They both seemed very secure in both themselves and the relationship. Super cute. Initially when they broke up it seemed quite odd. I didn’t really expect it. It got even weirder when he states that he and Juliet are together. It didn’t feel like they fit together at all (and no I’m not talking about from a fame or success perspective. At least not yet lol) As I’ve said I got bad vibes from Juliet right from the get go. Andy already seemed to be acting not like himself. (Also snakeys have argued that it’s just that he’s more mature now and that’s why he acts nervous and constantly looks Ike he wants to die. 🙄 maturity doesn’t mean losing your fucking personality and being unhappy most of the time. Jesus Christ.) it seemed like they got possessive of each other and constantly needed to show people how in love they were. Pictures, videos, and fucking public love paragraphs to show they are, in fact, in a super real relationship and they love each other. It also felt like Andy’s family was in on this whole weird charade.They (Chris honestly) started to defend her degenerate behavior and attack anyone who had even a whisper of negative things to say about her or their relationship. It was like watching a group of awkward, pretty mediocre actors put on a play about them being together. (I’ve hit the text limit now, but there will be more that I will write just after I submit this one though, fear not haha. N, you can either post this now or wait until I submit the rest, it’s up to you.) 1 / ? -🤠

A/N: i was here for a lot of it as well so i do remember some of this. although i did join the fandom shortly after him and juliet got together (i joined like around the time she was on the voice) i literally remember hoping that him and scout would get back together bc juliet just rubbed me the wrong way and i didn't know why at the time. & side note i actually do recommend people go look at old videos of andy and scout they were really adorable. there is this one video of them singing (i think a carrie underwood song lol) in the car and it's really cute. but yeah just bc he's older doesn't mean his whole entire personality changes. you can be any age and act however you want. i could even use jenna marbles & julien solomita (a youtube couple) as an example, they've been together for i think like 8 or 9 years and are about the same age as A&J (julien being around andy's age & jenna around juliet's age) & although they can have mature adult conversations and all of that, they still act like idiots and joke around together. neither of them look uncomfortable or are afraid of saying certain things like andy is around juliet. so andy aging doesn't mean shit in regards to his personality doing a 180.

🤠okay, so part two here we go. (Also I apologize if I get the chronological order of anything I talk about incorrect, I’m a bit scattered sometimes and the next ask I make will be the one where I talk about the domestic abuse and I tend to get quite heated, which only makes my brain function worse lol) so the point at which Andy was trying to get fans to go vote for/ support Juliet when she was on the voice seemed really fishy. I’m all for supporting the work of the people you love, but it’s kinda strange how hard Andy was pushing this at the time. Too hard in my opinion. I’m obviously aware that it was helpful in the end and he more or less got what he was asking for. But it was like he absolutely needed people to vote for her. As if he would get in trouble if they didn’t. So around 2012 or 2013 it felt like things really went down the shitter from there and just got progressively worse. (I never knew why for the longest time, but after they revealed that Vegas wedding that happened in about that time frame, it made a lot of sense.) Andy’s behavior began to change towards his fans. There are a lot of accounts of this happening from fans themselves and a lot of people said that 1. It was worse with Juliet around, and 2. a lot of the time it would happen towards females especially. ( I think more towards the “pretty” fans but don’t count me on that, I don’t know for sure.) This was completely night and day. Especially coming from the same man who used to always defend his fans and once stated something along the lines of he would never have a crazy or awkward fan story because he loves and is grateful for all of his fans and he won’t get upset if they’re just really excited. I would understand if these fans crossed the line in some way (like the later incident of fans finding his address and harassing them, which is unacceptable no matter who the people are) but from most if not all of the fan stories I’ve heard, they didn’t. They were being respectful and didn’t do anything to warrant this happening to them besides showing up. Which brings me to my next point, a lot of these negative experiences were caused by Juliet. Either she was the one being mean to people, she was causing Andy to be mean to people on her behalf, or her presence was upsetting Andy to the point that he was angry and started being rude and irritable. What scares me the most are the accounts of Andy having a whole Jekyll and Hyde thing, depending on weather or not Juliet was present. Happy when he’s free of her and miserable when he isn’t. In videos of him where Juliet is behind the camera he always seems nervous and strange. Like he’s afraid to mess up. That’s fucking alarming to say the least. You would think that the last thing one would want to do if another person brings them this much anger, stress, and anxiety, the LAST thing they would want to do is fucking marry them. Right? He literally started barely smiling at one point and really doesn’t anymore. I mean for Christ’s sake look at his wedding photos. What’s suppose to be one of the happiest moments of your life and to quote another anon with a different ask, he looks like he’s being dragged to the gallows. (And I get really fucking Angry honestly when snakeys tries to pass it off as “oh he’s awkward he doesn’t know how to smile” or “omg he’s being dramatic for the aesthetics” in some pictures, yes. But why the fuck would you look like that in pictures with the “love of your life” who you now regularly write cringy paragraphs publicly professing your love and complete adoration for? Andy knows how to smile genuinely. Ffs he used to. He smiled genuinely when he was a kid, he smiled genuinely with scout, and he smiled genuinely when Juliet wasn’t around. He doesn’t smile when she is there, and if he does, it is pretty much always visibly fake.) So I may backtrack a little later, but right now I want to talk about the fact that Juliet IS an abuser. More specifically, the plane incident. (Word limit. TBC.) 2 / ? -🤠

A/N: yes. 100%. when it comes to the wedding photos i will never understand people (specifically snakeys) writing off his behavior as him "just being dramatic for the aesthetics". is that something he would do in photoshoots? yeah. is it something he may do on stage? sure. something he would do in an interview? maybe. but candid shots of him on one of the "happiest days of his life"? wtf no. & idk why people think that.

🤠 Just before I start, again, with the pictures, I really don’t think that Andy is enough of a self absorbed egotistical dick that he would actually sit there and put on the whole “miserable tough guy” act in every fucking photo he takes. Ah yes, the infamous plane incident. So straight up, Juliet exposed herself as an abuser, and brought out every bullshit excuse in the book (and made Andy go along with them) to try to cover it up. 1. She was drunk. Honestly this is total bullshit. I say this same thing when people defend cheating or any other degenerate behavior with the excuse of intoxication and I will say it now. Being drunk does not make you a different fucking person. It does not change the thoughts in your head. What it does do is impair your ability to make decisions and judgement skills in general. It’s the same reason why people drive drunk. It’s routine. Its what they would normally do. And because they’re drunk, they can’t see any reason why they shouldn’t do that. Juliet gets drunk, she and Andy fight, she wants to hit him, and because she’s drunk she doesn’t think that she shouldn’t fucking put her hands on him. 2. She hit him in “self defense” and he broke her ribs.(There’s several points I have debunking this) first of all let’s get this out of the way, no one on that plane (including the very real witness who just so happened to be an adult film actress (I think?) who you so love to discount because of it) saw him strike her or even touch her at any time. Two, you are in fucking airplane seats sitting right the fuck next to each other with an armrest in between. It would be pretty fucking hard to break your ribs unless they were made of actual glass, or Andy’s real name is Bruce fucking banner. Bones are surprisingly strong and I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that it’d be damn near impossible for him to do that to you, which brings me to three, if he had broken your ribs you would not be fucking standing up, thrashing around, whining like a little bitch, and oh by the way, continuing to abuse your husband for the second time on that flight. Four, you had a miscarriage. (When I was trying to conceive with my husband it was very difficult. I had two miscarriages before I finally had my son. I’m fully aware of how devastating having one is.) which is why if you are not lying (which I fully believe that Juliet would stoop that low just to get sympathy, especially with this big of a scandal. But I don’t actually have proof of this so I will say that it is just speculation on my part) I don’t fucking care. I am not unsympathetic to her if this did actually happen as I said, however, You do not get to make any excuse for putting your hands on another person out of anger. Ever. I don’t care who you are, I don’t care what kind of stress you are under, I don’t care if you are inebriated in any way and I sure as hell don’t care what the fuck you have between your legs. You do not hurt anyone. Point blank period. Five. You are a woman, you can’t hurt him. This one, actually enrages me. We all know your crusty ass pulled this one out (and threw around trump supporters a few times for good measure) because you know damn well how society and the media views and deals with abusive women. Women can abuse. Women who are shorter or weaker than their target can abuse. The fact that there are people who either don’t know that or don’t agree with that is absolutely baffling. Six. The same (I believe) porn actress. Literally saw you beating your own face with the restraints you had to be put in (which by the way flight attendants only ever use restraints as an absolute last resort when someone becomes a danger to the others on board, so she had to be acting absolutely deranged) to give yourself a bloody nose to claim Andy hit you. Then you proceed to act like a child and tell Andy to call your fucking dad. (Which kinda proves that whole Scientology thing honestly) what in the hell. I stg as long as I am breathing I will never let this go. This is actual fucking domestic abuse. (Word limit TBC.) 3 / ? -🤠

A/N: yeah her hitting him "bc she was drunk" was never a good excuse not only for the reasons you mentioned but, also bc let's be real at no point are you ever going to get served enough alcohol on a plane to make you that drunk i don't care what anyone says. also when it comes to the excuse of him "breaking her ribs" does she forget that andy actually did break his ribs a while ago? i think she even visited him when he was recovering so she should know what kind of pain he was in. & if he actually broke her ribs, there's no way she would have even been able to stand bc i know andy sure wasn't able to. he said it was one of the most painful things he's experienced. (i don't think i need to comment on the rest of this. it would just be redundant. you hit the nail on the head with that.)

🤠 I don’t care if it happened just that one time ore more likely is an everyday occurrence. Abuse is abuse and should never be tolerated. Kind of getting away from the plane thing. Andy always seems, as it’s been said on here before, afraid to mess up. Like he might mess up, and make her mad. A common behavioral pattern in abuse victims. He also at this point and for a decent amount of time before, doesn’t seem like he loves her anymore. Like he keeps up appearances and pretends, but it’s like it’s a job he’s forced to do. He’s tired and burnt out but was probably manipulated into staying and juliet is probably clinging for dear life. Also I don’t know if I’m the only one who thinks this, but I swear, the veganism and sobering up was just a cover up, most likely formed by either Juliet herself or her fucked up family, after the plane incident to hide their tracks and regain some public favor (because you know, if you advocate for animal rights then you can’t abuse your husband 🙃) Andy never gave a shit before though. Even though it was unhealthy he loved to drink and smoke and was very outspoken about that. And he used to never give a fuck about eating meat or consuming animal products like leather. I mean they’re still selling leather goods ffs. I would get having minor fuck ups because you don’t know any better, but it’s fucking leather. And now Andy is unhealthy and miserable as ever, but the culprit is malnourishment and Juliet rather than cigs, alcohol, and Juliet. My final thoughts: I do definitely believe in the Scientology theory, but if not that than I definitely believe that Andy was and is being manipulated for his fame. On several occasions it really looked like they broke up, including the time when they did, and then said it was a joke. It really doesn’t feel normal. Also, Juliet doesn’t really care about Andy that much. She never wears her wedding ring, she sells all their shit, including sentimental items, and now that she’s gained more popularity from being with him, suddenly doesn’t want to put him in her bio or write him the same creepy ass paragraphs or anything. It’s fucked up how shes so keen to say she did it all herself when really she’s been riding dick for fame since before she even met Andy. It also always kinda seemed to me that Amy was kind of uncomfortable around Juliet. We all know that Chris loves to kiss her ass night and day (most likely to do with the Scientology thing “if” it’s true), but Juliet and Amy always seemed to have a weird relationship like it was tense and forced. Also I just want to mention the time that Juliet talked about screaming at the woman over what I believe was a game night and brushed it off as being competitive and no one gave damn. Fucked up. To finish off this already way too long little series, I think Andy is a very vulnerable insecure person who got manipulated by several people (not just Juliet) some of whom he probably really trusted, and they helped to get him in Juliet’s (equally if not more insecure) hands so she could hurt him as she pleases. I truly hope that even now both he, and his parents (even though Chris really grinds my gears) can get out of this whole shit show, relatively unscathed. I know this is probably pretty unlikely, but hope springs eternal I guess. As I said feel free to ask any questions you may have and I will try to answer them best I can. Thank you for reading. 4 / 4 -🤠

A/N: yet again you hit the nail on the head with this part so i don't need to comment too much. other than the fact that i do agree that juliet and amy's relationship does seem weird.

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Can we talk about the Black Bat both in general, and and how he may have been an influence on two superheroes (Dr. Mid-Nite and Daredevil) and a supervillain (Two-Face), but was proven in a court of law to have no connection with the superhero who immediately comes to mind (Batman).

Having finally read a couple of his original stories and runs, yeah I got some thoughts on him.

While not the first bat-themed pulp character, nor the first fictional detective with a disability turned superpower (that would be Max Carrados, who actually was blind), Black Bat’s main claim to fame nowadays is his correlation to superheroes with the mixed traits he has that would all become massively popularized by characters who debuted afterwards. Regarding the Batman lawsuit, it wasn’t so much proven that they have no connection, as much as the publishers of both characters argued they did it first, and then agreed to stay out of each other’s territory, with Batman staying out of pulp magazines and The Black Bat staying out of comics (not that it would stop his publishers from rebranding him as “The Mask” and doing comics).

Black Bat actually couldn’t have inspired Batman, because Batman debuted 4 months prior. Plus, both were already ripping off the same guy, and both of them were far from the first bat-themed pulp characters at the time. And the idea that he inspired Daredevil I find too much of a reach. Dr Mid-Nite I can definitely see the resemblance, and while Two-Face doesn’t have much similarities to Tony Quinn past the origin and the anti-hero aspects, “handsome crusading District Attorney disfigured after getting splashed in the face by acid goes on a rampage” is not exactly vague enough of a concept to pass for coincidence. Two-Face debuted just 3 years after Black Bat, while Bat was still a pretty successful character (he managed to outlast nearly every other pulp hero), so it’s very possible that Kane and Finger had a look at Black Bat’s origin and used it as the basis for their Jekyll & Hyde-themed villain.

Okay so, that’s that for Black Bat, but what’s the character actually like? What’s there to him other than historical oddities? Does he have what it takes to survive and thrive again in a modern landscape?

The thing that sticks out to me about Black Bat is that he is a pulp character who feels like he was designed specifically with the arrival of the superheroes in mind, as when comic book superheroes began to carve a space for themselves, one of the responses the pulps had was to put out new heroes intended to be a part of both worlds, hybrids of pulp heroes and superheroes who could try to capture success in either format, characters like Ka-Zar and Black Hood who started in one and then jumped to the other.

Black Bat’s got a lot of the usual hallmarks of dark detective pulp heroes and his adventures are largely him battling ordinary criminal masterminds and gangsters, but he’s got an iconic costume, he’s got a super dramatic origin story that the stories keep coming back to (unlike most pulp heroes whose origin stories are not usually mentioned), and he’s got superpowers brought in the aftermath of a tragic accident. Not just skills anyone can have by training hard enough, actual superpowers, even if they don’t see as much usage as his pulp hero skillset.

To the world that knew about him, Anthony Quinn, once a virile, upstanding representative of law forces whose name had held terror for evil doers, was now an impotent blind man whose sight had been permanently destroyed by acid thrown at him in a crowded courtroom, and whose face was horribly scarred about the eyes. For a long time he had seemed to live in a world apart.

Such actually had been the case during the long months when Tony Quinn had lived in a sea of blackness. But Nature had been as kind as possible, giving him something in return for what had been taken from him. As a result he had since realized that his senses of feel, smell, and hearing were far more acute than formerly. Under his sensitive fingers whatever he touched had begun to tell strange new stories. His sense of smell had sharpened. His ears had become the ears of a hound, picking up with ease and sifting multitudinous sounds that once had been inaudible.

More months had gone by until, in the darkness of a lonely night, a girl with golden hair and blue eyes hadcome in through an open window like an angel out of nowhere to offer him hope where eye specialists had said there was no hope. Through a delicate operation by an unknown small town surgeon the corneas of the eyes of Carol Baldwin's policeman father - dying from paralysis brought on by a gangster bullet - had been given to him. An extraordinary thing had occurred. When at last Tony Quinn had been allowed to remove the bandages, he had been astounded by the miracle that had happened. His were the eyes of darkness as well as the eyes of day!

Interestingly also, Black Bat actually became one of the most prolific of pulp heroes when brought over to Germany. When German publishers Pabel decided to reprint a couple of Black Bat novels for the KRIMINAL-ROMAN serial, they discovered “Die Schwarzen Fledermaus” was somehow so popular that in 1962, they retitled it Fledermaus (Bat) and ran with it, reprinting all the original 60+ stories and then, when those ran out, creating 900 more at least. In fact, it seems like they are still publishing Black Bat stories even today, and now that he’s public domain it’s something just about anyone could get into.

Problem with that is, it’s not easy to conceive of The Black Bat having any kind of substantial popularity again, when he’s doomed by design to always be compared to Batman, to always just be seen as first glance as “oh it’s earless Batman with Daredevil’s shtick and Two-Face’s backstory”, and of course he doesn’t have a chance in hell of playing catch-up to the popularity of those characters (well, at least outside of Germany). Whatever niche he could have as an alternative to Batman is also null by the fact that said niche of Not-Batmen is already filled out quite extensively. He doesn’t have an incredibly strong personality the way Batman and The Shadow do, nor is he, despite being ostensibly a serial killer, enough of a trigger-happy anti-hero to latch on to the appeal of characters like The Spider or Punisher. The latest Black Bat comic run by Dynamite played up his ruthlessness, outlaw status and drew him on the covers perpetually holding guns and often with a big creepy smile. But smiling murder pulp Batman is already a niche that Midnighter fills considerably better than Black Bat ever could. So what’s left for him?

If I had to find a unique niche for Black Bat, I’d play his unique traits in ways that separate him from the super characters that ran with those later. I’d ditch the whole “oh woe is me I’m poor and helpless because I’m blind” shtick that’s terribly condescending to actually blind people, and make him at least truly blind in some form. Maybe he’s blind by day and by night he sees too much, or maybe his vision has some terrible secrets that go beyond mere enhanced eyesight. Maybe his powers are growing and expanding in ways he doesn’t know where they will lead him. But alongside that, one take on the character could be based on the fact that he really has nothing to lose. He is not Batman, he is not The Shadow, he isn’t Daredevil, he’s got little reputation to speak of, and he’s never going to be any of those characters.

He’s lost the position he’s coveted his whole life, he’s lost the respect of his peers, his former professional ethics don’t mean shit now, he’s had a long and painful brush with darkness that scarred him for life in ways both literal and metaphorical, and in the aftermath he’s begun spontaneously developing abilities that would be incredibly painful and uncomfortable for an average person to just develop without years of growing up with them. And then, a mysterious woman walked through his window one day, gave him the eyes of a dead man, and now he sees things in ways no person was ever supposed to, and now he goes around at night terrorizing and killing criminals in an animal-themed costume.

The most he has to lose currently is the life of his sidekicks who’ve worked very hard to help him heal and focus and find a new purpose, which only means that they are on the chopping block everytime you wanna give a gut punch to Tony Quinn. And no matter how famous, or even great, his adventures are, or how prolific and successful he is or even has been, he’s always going to be the Bat-themed superhero who couldn’t cut it. He’s Not-Batman, stripped of all the grand splendour and allmighty self righteousness and reputation and role as foundational figure of an entire genre and most popular bestest superhero of all time ever praise be thy Bat God, sharing more traits with one of Batman’s most personal and tragic villains than the titular character.

That’s not an indictment, that just means that Black Bat ultimately should have more narrative freedom, since he is unburdened by reputation and status. He is a public domain nobody best known by his association with characters who eclipse him in popularity, who’s always going to have that accursed Bat prefix and costume to damn him by association, so why not work with it? He could be the character you go into to tell stories that you couldn’t tell with Batman or other big name superheroes, the grimiest, sickest, even weirdest crime tales of all. What does the Black Bat have to lose?

Those who have nothing to lose stand everything to gain, after all.

Also, Masks 2 once presented an alternative version of the character called The Black Bats, who dresses like a baseball player and dual-wields baseball bats, which is nutty and I’d definitely prefer Black Bat to ditch the generic pulp hero guns and instead just go crazy batting everything in his way.

“I gotta tell ya, this is pretty terrific! Hahahahah, yeah!”

#replies tag #pulp heroes #pulp fiction #the black bat #tony quinn #batman #two-face

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yandere-romanticaa · 5 years ago

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A well beloved doctor living in London, Andrew has made quite a name for himself! All of his patients are very happy with his work as he is able to always diagnose them properly and give them the correct medicine - truly a divine blessing in this day and age. He's a cheerful gentleman in his mid to early thirties who always has a gentle smile on his face. He is very fond of children and he does not mind babysitting them whenever someone asks him to do so, making him popular with parents and single mothers especially. During the day time he is filled to the brim with work but he always makes time to have afternoon tea, chat with his servants, or just try to enjoy like in general. A truly kind man in the eyes of many!

Alas though, when darkness overcomes his manor a new side of the good doctor surfaces, a side that no one knows about.

And Andrew plans to keep it that way.

There are many, many things that the doctor desires, craves, needs. But he is stuck in the same place day by day as he is forced to play his role of the savior. Even the good doctor Andrew likes to indulge himself from time to time... But that indulgence has gotten out of hand. By sheer accident Andrew was able to create a special elixir which is able to shift him in to a completely different person. His body is different, his hair is different, everything is different. His psyche however, remains the same.

And Andrew uses this newfound knowlege to his advantage.

Dubbing his new alter ego "Edward Hyde", Andrew is pleased to do what he wants once the sun sets. He messes with the townfolk, he shamelessly flirts and seduces any woman he sees, he picks on the young and the poor, nothing is off the table. This becomes a habbit very quickly as Edward is soon well known among the city. Some flee and flinch at the mere mention of him while others scoff and prepare their fists for a fight. Things continue like this for a while until Andrew notices that whenever he changes in to Edward, his mind is no longer fully his. Even throught the day as he sits in his office he can hear a gruff voice at the back of his mind, telling him to just finish the damn paperwork already. He starts hearing this voice everywhere and he starts to think that he is going mad. The voice taunts him day after day until he finally turns in to Hyde. Only then is he able to feel some inner peace. Andrew soon starts to lose control over himself as the voice grows louder and louder, yelling at him and commanding him to do its bidding. Every day now turns in to a battle as Andrew struggles to get out of bed and face himself in the mirror... But that's the catch. On one fateful morning the reflection he sees is not his own.

It's Hyde's.

The glowing green eyes of Edward Hyde stare back at him as Jekyll does his best to hold his breath in. This can't be real, this can't be happening! By now Andrew is pretty much at war with this new persona he had made and he does not know how to stop this coflict. Both do as they please which contradicts their previous actions, making both Edward and Andrew more then a little suspicious to the public eye. By this point Andrew regrets having ever created Edward but it's too late now. Edward Hyde was a part of him now, a dark part of him which could not be released. The only thing Andrew could do was to keep him at bay even if he was bearly able to do so. This constant pushing and pulling was exhausting to both of them and both were more then ready for a release.

And their release indeed came, but not in the way they thought it would.

It came in the form of love. Love for a sweet darling, a twisted obsession and want over this special little lamb who stumbled in to their lives by sheer accident, at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Andrew and Edward remain greatful still.

The pushing and pulling dies down whenever (y/n) is in the room and their attitudes are completely different from each other. Oh, if only (y/n) knew just what sort of danger awaits...

Andrew Jekyll.

Ever the gentleman, Andrew always places his darlings needs before his own. He worries for his sweetheart constantly as he dotes on them, making sure that they are safe and happy. Did his darling eat today? Did his darling sleep well? He won't ever stop asking these questions whenever he sees them, he just can't help himself! He never shuts up and he always seems to forget what he is trying to say but that's okay, his darling doesn't seem to mind.

Andrew stays gentle like that for a while as he treats his darling like divine royalty which does not go unnoticed by the people around him. He hears his servants whisper many things once he turns his back but he can't help but to blush a little - he may act a little awkward but in reality he really doesn't mind.

Andrew is also willing to bend over backwards and break his spine to get his darling whatever their little heart desires. He has more then enough money then he knows what to do with anyway! He wants jis darling to depend on him, he wants to be darlings only one true protector. He wants to provide for his darling like a good husband would.

Andrew often loses himself in these little fantasies that he gets distracted from his work, cahsing him to mess something up or to accidentaly spill or destroy amything around him. It's a vicious cycle of endless pinning as Andrew just doesn't have the guts to express his feelings, much to Hyde's annoyance and amusement. Cracks will start to form deep within him as Andrew tries to restrain himself more and more whenever he is around his darling. His smiles are not entierly his anymore as he stares his darling down like a piece of meat. Andrew hungers for darlings love and approval which in a way, does make his darling a piece of meat to him.

No matter what he just can never get enough of his darling, ever. The cheerful smiles thrown his way are not enough, and good grief just the mere brush of darlings fingers against his own is enough to send Jekyll in to a panicked frenzy. He loses his composure right there and then as he is forced to look his darling in the eye and do... nothing. He can't do anything he desires, he can't grab his darling by the back of their neck and press those pretty little lips against his own...

He can't caress the love of his life freely in public.

Hell, he can't even touch them without someone making a fuss.

Everything, everyone, is slowly driving him mad.

His love is driving him mad.

Andrew's affection starts to turn conditional, he can only ever shower his darling with gifts if they behave how he wants them to, if they pay enough attention to him, which is of course never quite enough.

His sanity fades as lovesickness kicks in.

His patience is wearing thin. What's taking his darling to love him back already? Hasn't he done everything any ideal lover would do? He has done literally everything, it must be his darling! It can't be his fault! His soft spoken words soon turn sharper then any knife as he imagines that very same weapon in his hands, pressed against darlings pretty little neck. Bruised, bloody and broken, that's how Jekyll wants his darling to be now.

He wants to crush them in his love.

And chances are, he will give in to his temptations.

Edward Hyde.

Tsk, tsk, this man is quite the charmer. A real smooth talker blessed with a deeper voice then his more seemingly more gentle counterpart, Hyde is no stranger to suggestive comments and rough touches. His feelings ignite like flames, quickly and suddenly. They take over his heart and soul, burning him and leaving endless ache and want in its path.

It's a strange feeling. He doesn't know how to feel about it...

When he meets his darling he treats her just how he treats other women. He craves nothing more then darlings body but when darling turns him down Hyde feels intrigued. Playing hard to get, eh?

He is always up for a good challenge.

Hyde stops paying attention to other women and his darling soon becomes his prime time target - Edward cannot move on unless he has his darling. He provokes, taunts and teases, just itching to see darlings reactions to his schemes. Cuss at him, slap him, do anything you want! Just as long as your focus is on him that wolf like grin will never leave his face. He just loves it when his darling turns red, it's so cute he could kiss her. His provoking continues like this for a while until Hyde begins to realize just how some couples act around each other. His softer side starts to show itself and it's something to marvel at really.

Unlike Jekyll, who is soft at the beginning and turns cruel at the end, Hyde is the opposite of that. He doesn't want to just mess with his darling anymore, he wants to actually love and care for her, to actually be in a commited relationship.

His protective side is on full display and anyone with at least a single braincell should be able to get the message.

Hyde often wonders when the Hell did he become so soft all of a sudden. He wants this pain in his chest to stop but the only way it can is if his darling is with him. He doesn't need anyone else... He doesn't want anyone else.

Let's hope Hyde's darling has a strong stomach because he doesn't give a damn who he has to hurt. He and Jekyll are nearly nothing alike but if they share on thing in common, it would be determination.

Edward Hyde has found his prey and he isn't going anywhere without it.

Tags: @3rdgymbros, @eclipsezero, @ghostiebabey, @yandere-of-your-dreams, @howl-of-the-hunting-lambs, @yandere-wishes, @severnrsstuff, @twstdreams, @twst-soul, @hattress-of-spades

I did my best guys, I hope this was okay! First time making a OC, sorry if it's too similar to the original characters. As I write more stories for them I'll try to build them up more! And feel free to ask any questions if you have them!

#yandere #yancore #yandere male #yanderecore #yandere x reader #yandere x you #yandere imagines #yandere scenarios #yandere headcanons #yandere oc #yandere oc x reader #jekyll and hyde #yandere andrew jekyll x reader #yandere andrew jekyll #yandere edward hyde x reader #yandere edward hyde #edward hyde #gothic #victorian era

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alyrae13 · 4 years ago

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Alright, time to explain my weeb ass! As promised, I’m gonna tell the reasons why I like each Gold Saint and why I see them as the way I do. Keep in mind, I’ll also may have to make this into two parts because of how long this would be in one single post, so please bare with me! Anyway, onward ho!!!

Libra Dohko

Starting off simple! Being a Libra myself, it’s easy to see that I would like this cool madafaka; He’s basically a better, more sensible version of Yoda. The reason I don’t feel very attracted to him is because I see him as the badass grandfather type, like the cool Chinese grandfather that could teach you how to kick ass while also being chill enough to unwind during tea time. 100% Dope Grandpa through and through.

Taurus Aldebaran

Now for the other one! Alde is a man who’s sweet as sugar cane yet as powerful as a raging bull. Despite his height, he’s a kind man when off the battle field and ready to fight for Athena when on said battle field. He’s not a character I’m attracted to because I see him as a strong yet sweet uncle figure who’s ready to stand alongside ya in both normal life and when fighting. He’s a tender giant of a man who supports those around him. Gentle Giant Uncle 100%.

Capricorn Shura

Now we go on to the tricky stuff. Shura, dear god do I love him. His character ideology is just so interesting due to the differences between the manga and anime. Wielder of the holy sword Excalibur, he could cut you to bits and think nothing of it. There’s also a possible angst hanging over him; He was the one sent to kill off Aiolos, knowing well how it would have affected little Aiolia. Imagine the amount of guilt he had for killing someone’s only family member? Even worse when you take the consideration of him realizing that he was willing to kill an innocent man without knowing about it, meaning he now knows he just tore a family apart and cause so much pain in vain. And please don’t get me even started on the Hades Saga and Soul of Gold. His character is just so great to me and I’m glad he was able to get on good terms with Aiolia in Soul of Gold. Plus, he’s a sexy Spanish man who’s super loyal, so why wouldn’t I love him?

Aquarius Camus

Camus, oh boy... Camus is someone who just gives me a whole array of emotions despite him not openly expressing them himself. On the surface, he is rather cold and distant due to not wanting to draw people into despair by showing exasperation, yet he’s still in control of his emotions rather than just suppressing them. His willing to fight for his ideals and for what he believes as correct (Soul of Gold anybody?), and although his way of teaching Hyoga is questionable at best, his only doing what he thinks will make Hyoga stronger as a saint. Despite being a man who appears uncaring and emotionless, he really isn’t. After all, we’re taking about the same man who one stated about hating people who mourn over the past yet also deeply cares for his pupil and about being true to his word to an old friend. Camus is a man who truly cares for those around him despite him appearing otherwise. He’s also a Frenchman, and who doesn’t love a beautiful French?

Gemini Saga and Kanon

Oh good grief this will be a long explanation. For the sake of respect and love for these two, I’ll be going over them individually because why not make this post into a full on essay?

Frist of all, Saga, poor Saga. Dear lord the amount of trauma this man had to go through is just heartbreaking. A man with an undying loyalty to Athena with an evil split personality... A more tragic version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Not only was he forced to see his evil side kill Pope Shion and take over his identity, he had to see him try to kill baby Athena and send another saint to kill Aiolos; And he had to endure that fact for thirteen years. By the time he was finally free of his evil half, he was practically begging his beloved goddess to forgive him for all the hurt he caused. A powerful yet tragic man indeed. Then there is his relationship with Kanon (of who we’ll talk about in a moment), because it’s also a little sad. Kanon was definitely, a bit of a traitorous prick in the beginning and it was his imprisonment that led to Saga’s split personality in the first place. Yet you could still say that they at least cared for each other despite all the bullshit they must’ve gone through whilst growing up, because Saga was definitely happy in the Hades arc when he found his brother fighting for Athena.

Now for Kanon, fucking Kanon who despite starting out as an infidel of a man, then became a great character in the same vain as his brother Saga. Dude wanted to overthrow the Pope and kill baby Athena but ended up getting his butt locked in Cape Sounion. Now we know what happens there; Finds trident, get’s Poseidon half awakened, poses as the Sea Dragon and yada yada. It’s only when fighting Ikki does he end up changing because it’s then when Ikki told him the only reason he’s even alive is because of Athena’s Cosmo. So, plans in scrambles and now possibly gripped with an overwhelming sense of guilt, he goes over to Athena and without skipping a beat, becomes a shield against Poseidon‘s trident and begs Athena to forgive him before falling unconscious. And of course, we know about everything in Hades arc.

In the end, both men are equally cherished characters of mine and I won’t have it any other way. Also their handsome Greek men who need hugs and kisses and need to be told that they are loved and appreciated, so...

Cancer Deathmask

Oh Deathmask, you beautiful bastard you... Now Deathmask is more of an asshole than Kanon for reasons we all know at this point but I’m guessing his behavior could be explain simply due to the fact he is literally surrounded by death everyday. Like seriously, is it really a surprise that he’s like this when he’s constantly exposed to seeing the souls of the living fall right into practically hell? Nobody would be the same if they had to endure that, especially since most likely he started training to become a saint at a very early age. Now, this is when Soul of Gold comes into play, because god damn it how they wrote his character is just something. Firstly, he’s shown to be an gambling addict and an alcoholic, clearly unhealthy coping mechanisms for not being able to use his cloth and you know, being exposed to death at an early age and onwards for most of his life. Then we have Helena; Now, I’m not gonna lie, the whole ‘Changed better because of love’ trope is very much old at this point but it’s kinda ok because it shows us ‘Hey, even he has the opportunity to change and become a good man’. Deathmask, despite all the things he’s done against mankind, still has the potential to become an honorable Gold Saint and a decent human being; Plus his a sexy Italian who can rock the goatee look, so yay for the crab.

Pisces Aphrodite

Ah yes, the beloved fish boi. Honestly, I love his character simply because he breaks so many boundaries that it would be hard for me not to like him. He plays into the whole ‘appearances can be deceiving’ stick so well; He looks feminine yet his personally is quite the opposite (to some extent). His personality is something that’s interesting to me as well; Despite being so god damn beautiful, he doesn’t act narcissistic at all and doesn’t even care about having his appearance messed up in battle. HIs belief that power and strength are the most beautiful things in the world speaks fucking volumes to me and explains why he was willing to follow the False Pope’s orders. His character in Soul of Gold was just great as well! Like, to see his abilities and power being fully used to it’s full potential was simply badass and I doubt others won’t disagree with me on that one; He was definitely key in the story despite showing little of him. That’s way I love him so much; He’s a gorgeous Swede who can kick your ass and think little of it. He’s the type of man who will look damn good beating you up while shrugging off any damage to his figure like a frickin’ boss... He’s just that dope.

OK, that’s the first part of this really long post; Honestly this took me nearly an entire day to write, like, really. I had to take a break and ended up taking a nap before finishing this, it was that long. Hope many of you agree with my reasons for loving these characters so far and if not, that’s ok! Opinions are fine as long as no one gets hurt, so it’s fine if you don’t like them like I do! Anyway, I’m just gonna rest now because my fingers are killing me. Have a great day guys!

#saint seiya #gold saint #soul of gold #capricorn shura #aquarius camus #gemini saga #sea dragon kanon #cancer deathmask #pisces aphrodite #libra dohko #taurus aldebaran #anime #favourites #knights of the zodiac

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pinkysfaultorbrainsfault · 4 years ago

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animaniacs - s1e54: brain meets brawn

episode summary: the boys live with dr jekyll for some reason, so rather than mind his own business, brain decides to drink all of the Potion That Makes You Hulk Out without considering the potential consequences.

as usual.

the rundown:

we open at dr jekyll’s house.

again, you can tell it’s dr jekyll’s house because it has his name written on it. this time, he has a fancy sign on a stick so everyone can see it from the street. convenient! especially if he is a doctor? i don’t know lol. i don’t think it ever specifies. maybe he just has a doctorate in Being Large and Green with no regards to the practice of medicine.

homeboy looks weirdly like granny from looney tunes. maybe that’s what the potion is for? instead of hyde, it just turns him into a grandma. that would be fun!

oh. well. my mistake.

maybe this was some kind of experiment? i don’t know. honestly, i don’t remember why jekyll makes the serum in the first place. presumably, he has the antidote on the table too, but, uh.

yeah. RIP that, or whatever. give it a rest, you oversized muppet, you’re scaring the mice.

(there are, as per The Course, mice here.)

“egad”, says our resident Exposition Pinky, “dr jekyll has turned himself into that fearsome mr hyde again, brain.” for all of his personal worry, though, brain doesn’t seem too bothered, and instead decides to make this all about himself, as usual.

“yes, pinky. if only i could find a way to use that savage strength.”

delightful! the closeups are back. unfortunately, it soon pans away from Two Inches From Brain’s Face to highlight the rest of the plot of the episode.

phweeeet. i’m not entirely sure why the police are here. maybe they just heard a table getting knocked over and broke into the guy’s house. going around bothering people for minor loud noises and doing absolutely nothing about real crime or people in danger does sound a bit like what our police like to do.

“ere, that’s the brute! take im!”

hm. in the background, big ben chimes Four Bong, and the carnage immediately ceases.

“four o clock! tea time!”

“scone?”

“delighted.”

that’s just how things work over here, i guess.

eventually, they manage to haul him off, with a “roight, it’s jayel for you, mister hyde”

leaving the mice alone to contemplate.

i don’t blame them. i would be contemplating too, on account i have no idea what the fuck just happened. he drank the potion of Summoning The Police, i guess? why did he drink it? why did they just turn up? we literally don’t see him again.

while pinky ponders whether kids would still buy them if they were called Sad Meals (and i know i would, but i doubt mcdonalds existed back then) brain has more pressing observations.

“the british are obsessed with tea time, pinky. everything stops when big ben strikes four.”

and what a slanderous observation it is! excuse me brain?

EXCUSE ME.

HOW VERY DARE YOU.

HOW VERY VERY okay yeah actually you’re probably right.

anyway brain’s plan is to stop big ben at 4pm so it’ll be Forever Teatime and he can take over the british empire while everyone is having tea.

AND THEN THE WORLD we get two weird closeups in this episode.

“but you’d have to be some kind of hulking, muscular giant to stop that clock, brain.”

“exactly. as they say in rustic circles, bottoms up.”

(hoo hoo. it’s funny because he’s stood on the pyrex jug, which is tall, so he himself is tall, and also “up”, and also he’s yknow what never mind.)

GLOG.

pinky’s over there immediately, as soon as brain gets down* asking if he’s okay or if he feels anything strange.

*yknow, as opposed to up.

he kind of gets in brain’s face about it until brain loses his patience and tells pinky that he is angering him, and would he please--

DONK.

“naaaaaaaarf.”

there he is! the big boy. as a sidenote, i’ve only actually seen his design in.... fanart. this is the first time i’ve watched this episode! i love how he still has a red nose for no reason. it does not fit the colour scheme at all.

(i speak directly to the patb discord: do not make this weird for me.)

anyway his first course of action is apparently to smash a table over pinky’s head for no reason.

BRUH. WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

pinky squeaks out a “sorry i angered you, brain.” which is sad, but

seems to have an effect.

anyway, from that they work out that brain Gets Large when he is made angry, and then Unlarges when the person who made him angry apologises.

“anger me, pinky!”

“but zounds, brain, i don’t want tooooo.”

“PINKY.”

DONK.

see? works a treat.

so with that figured out, the lads bugger off to big ben.

but first, pinky requests that they make the bells play john jacon jingleheimer schmidt.

conclusion:

they do have some trouble getting there.

“look brain! that cloud looks like a big pomegranate!”

donk.

brain does not have a lot of patience, as should be obvious. still, even Larged Out, brain has enough mental fortitude to head to the main entrance to big ben instead.

“americans.”

brain takes this as an insult, and pinky narrowly manages to stop him from just straight up murdering those dudes.

they are, however, thoroughly knocked out, so the mice consider this a victory and sneak in.

it’s big.

like, i’ve never been to big ben, but if it’s open to tourists it can’t just be a big room with a massive death pendulum in it, surely? maybe the victorians cared less about health and safety.

the mice are also less bothered about this than i am, apparently. “there it is, pinky. the main wheel of big ben.” stop that and you stop the world, apparently. HE WHO CONTROLS THE TEATIME CONTROLS ALL OF BRITAIN ok he doesn’t say that. he does, however, maintain that he can stop the gears as Large Brain if pinky then goes and dislodges the pallette.

“now, make me mad.”

“HEY YOU. DUMBDUMB.”

“come on, you can do better than that.”

“YOUR MOTHER IS-- OLDER. THAN YOU.”

“pinky! try harder, quickly--”

DONK.

epic.

so pinky goes to dislodge the pallette.

“ NO̡ P̵IN͘K̸Y͞,͜ ̢T͜H͟E̷ ͞PA̧L҉LETT̢E̛.” brain is still surprisingly coherent in Large Mode, though, compared to hyde. huh. maybe it’s because he’s a smartboy or something.

“oops, haha, sorry brain.”

oh no.

oh dear.

oh fuck.

hickory dickory bonk lol.

“oh, i’m sorry brain.” says pinky, who already knows which way the tally is going, and holds his arms out for a hug.

donk.

well isn’t this an interesting development.

“egad, brain. i don’t mean to keep saying i’m sorry.”

i feel bad for giving pinky this, because really it’s more social conditionning than his deliberate fault. still, the episode ends with pinky repeatedly smacking brain in the head to attempt to reLarge him, so it’s not all bad.

brain: 3 pinky: 5 outside influence: 5

“once we enter big ben, i’ll use my physical prowess to stop the wheel, while you dislodge the pallette and disrupt the intrinsic mechanism.”

“what if that doesn’t work?”

“we’ll...... throw a big wrench in it.”

#patb #pinky and the brain #a!#animaniacs #i'm not sure i'm a big fan of how like #victimising this episode is #it really does feel like they just randomly decide whether pinky likes brain or whether he's scared of him every episode lol

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killian-whump · 5 years ago

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I know you weren't a big fan of s6, so if you could rewrite it, what would you change?

Everything.

No, I’m kidding. I mean, there were some things I liked about S6 and would definitely keep around. I thought the S5 finale set everything up for S6 really well. I was excited for the Land of Untold Stories, and all the tales that were hinted at in the scenes that took place there, and I love Regina, especially when she’s the Evil Queen in flashbacks, so I was all amped up for the dual Reginas storyline. S6 looked great from that point.

Then it all went to shit.

The Evil Queen thing was SO over-the-top, and Lana was playing her in a campy and ridiculous way that didn’t appeal to me at all. In hindsight, I can see that they were trying to keep her “redeemable” and play up the whole “still Regina, even as the Evil Queen” thing for the storyline resolution, so they needed her to only be quasi-evil instead of evil-evil. Okay, fair enough, but it was still super disappointing and even downright cringey, and I will never forgive them for turning one of my favorite parts of the show into a circus act. Honestly, if they weren’t going to do the Evil Queen justice, I would’ve rather they hadn’t gone anywhere near her. So that would be change #1: Drop the camp or drop that storyline entirely.

And they could’ve dropped it entirely. That exciting land of Untold Stories they teased us with in the S5 finale was... a let-down. Yes, we got Jekyll and Hyde and Captain Nemo... but the Aladdin stuff they gave us was more fairytale than literary classic, and wtf was up with the ridiculous one-off shit like the Count of Monte Cristo? There were SO many classics they could’ve visited, and greater detail they could’ve gone into with the ones they DID visit... and the Land of Untold Stories was so COOL looking, with its wild mix of architecture and dirigibles and steampunk style. WHY would you create such a fantastical and fun-looking world, and then take everyone from that world and put them in OUR boring ass world? S6 should’ve taken place IN the Land of Untold Stories and brought us a lot more fresh takes and characters from that land than the pittance we got. AND MORE STEAMPUNK, FOR FUCK’S SAKE.

I’m also still angry that they teased me with an asylum plot in the press before the S5 finale, then gave me a taste of it IN that finale... and then ripped it from my greedy, hot little hands. They didn’t even put Killian Jones in a straitjacket while they were there. What the fuck, guys? Who does that? That man was born to be put into a straitjacket for my enjoyment and you had him RIGHT THERE and even put someone in a straitjacket, but it was the wrong fucking someone. Had S6 stayed in the Land of Untold Stories, we could’ve had untold opportunities for more asylum whump, and they could’ve put Killian in a straitjacket and made all of my dreams come true.

And why the SHIT did they actually kill off Hyde when Sam Witwer was the best thing to happen to that show since Colin, himself?! I mean, yeah, the Jekyll and Hyde storyline was probably planned from the get-go to end in their deaths, but when you see what a complete GEM Hyde is, what with his penchant for the Evil Queen’s cooking and his ridiculously awesome facial expressions and his dashing dapper-do and Sam Fucking Witwer’s everything... change whatever the fuck you need to change to somehow keep this man on your show. And then they even went and full-on made this man redeemable and gave him a heartbreaking backstory right before they killed him. Like, fuck you? Seriously. Fuck everyone for that one. I will never forgive them for killing Hyde.

Okay. Moving on from my general complaints, we come to my Killian-specific complaints. And there’s a lot of them. S6 did that character SO wrong SO many times... I really just want to take it out back and beat the shit out of it.

For starters, his relationships were ALL thrown in the shitcan. It was like S3-S5 just never happened and he was right back to Square One with everyone, being that dastardly pirate that can’t be trusted and that no one could ever care about. People who clearly cared enough about him to go to the fucking Underworld for him in S5 were suddenly calling him a pirate like it’s a foul word, and blatantly telling him he’s not good enough to be part of the family. Yeah, I get it, they wanted some dramatic negativity before showing these characters fully accepting and embracing him as part of their clan... but you know what makes for really awesome storytelling? Realistic relationships that grow and evolve over the course of several seasons - which was what they fucking HAD before they threw them all in the shitter for fake “developments” that had already happened. And FYI, Henry was actually nastier to Killian in the beginning of 6x06 than he was during the Spell of Shattered Sight. Like, did no one at the writers table even pause in their pursuit of drama long enough to realize that if Henry really ever had that much animosity towards Killian, it would’ve come out THEN? Or, you know, at any point in the course of the last four seasons?!

And it goes without saying: I would never, ever, ever have had Killian be the murderer of David’s father. Or, at the very least, I would’ve never had the murder go down the way they showed it in the flashback. Have it be an accidental death. Have it be a pirate duel. Have it be anything but cold-blooded murder. First of all, it’s just not believable that David could forgive him so easily and so quickly for depriving him of a loving father for no fucking reason. Secondly, they spend four whole seasons showing us flashbacks of a pirate with a deeply-buried heart of gold, who kept wanting to make the right decisions... but ended up making the wrong ones time and time again. They never showed us, before this ridiculously cheap dramatic ploy, a man who willfully murdered people just for shits and giggles. Finally, Killian Jones is a motherfucking pirate. Stealing from the King is par for the course, but the whole “Dead men tell no tales” thing makes ZERO sense. Pirates thrive by striking FEAR into the hearts of their enemies, and you don’t get a solid reputation for being a cut-throat villain to be feared by literally killing off all the witnesses to your evil deeds. Pirates are like, one step short of going “BEHOLD! It is I, Captain PirateGuy, here to steal your gold and seduce your ladies! Be sure to tell all your friends and neighbors about this when we’re through.” So... yeah. Way to throw a completely nonsensical spanner in the works that makes literally NO sense and flies in the face of everything else you’ve said and shown about this character in the past. It’s shit, and I refuse to accept it, and they should be sorry for its very existence.

And then there’s Captain Swan. *sigh* This relationship fell prey to the same shit that ALL of Killian’s relationships were destroyed by throughout S6. Only it was much, much worse here - because this is supposed to be (and has been!) his closest, most important relationship. And yet... We see Emma blow him off and then lie right to his face in the very first episode. Then she lies some more in each of the next few episodes, and when her lies are finally revealed, she doesn’t even seem to give a shit about the trust she’s betrayed or the hurt she’s caused. And the fact that they even filmed that deleted scene with Emma giving Killian a flippant “I said I was sorry...” just shows how fucking tone-deaf those writers were. If someone lies to your face, repeatedly, over something of life-or-death importance and for a lengthy period of time, then basically gives you a “I said I was sorry, what more do you want from me?” twenty minutes after their lies are revealed, because you’re still sore about it... get the FUCK out of that relationship immediately, because that person does not give two shits about you.

Things only got worse when she snooped through his belongings, pushed him to propose on her terms and when she wanted him to (despite the fact that he was clearly drunk and troubled by something at the time), called off their engagement when he dared to keep something from her (despite the fact that she’d just recently spent weeks lying right to his face), believed that he would just abandon her completely despite everything they’d been through, lied to him again right before their wedding in the course of once again shutting him out and not letting him help her with something (even though that’s literally the EXACT reason she ended their engagement when HE was the one doing it)... I mean, come on. That is NOT the CS I signed up for, and I refuse to accept it as the CS that is my OTP.

Hence, the Dark Emma explanation was born in my head. And when it comes to changes to S6... I’d either completely re-write about 90% of S6′s CS storylines... or make my Dark Emma theory a reality. The theory is as such: Since Emma did not die in 5x11, but merely had her Darkness sucked into Killian/Excaliber before HE died... some residual darkness remained in her. Nothing much was seen/noticed in 5b (though Killian DID make a comment about her not sleeping...) because she was too focused on saving Killian. However, once she was back home, safe and sound with her man, the Darkness started showing itself. She lied to those she loved. She made uncharacteristically selfish decisions. She hurt people. She eschewed all she’d learned about letting others in and getting help from the people who love her. And it wasn’t until her literal and figurative death at Gideon’s hands that the Darkness was truly eradicated from her - and only THEN could she truly find her Happy Beginning.

Oh, and by the way, I also hate the writers for even HAVING Killian walk to the docks with a packed bag and even consider boarding the Nautilus and leaving town. No. Just... no. Having him even CONSIDER doing that is even worse than having Emma believe he WOULD do such a thing to her. It’s like they got the S6 writers out of a Cracker Jack box and not a single one had ever watched an episode of the show or seen this couple before in their lives. Their whole fucking SCHTICK is that he would NEVER abandon her, that he would follow her to the end of the world or time itself... and that, despite a lifetime of fears and abandonment issues, Emma Swan has come to TRUST that he would never leave her. YOU CAN’T JUST GO “LOL, THAT’S NOT TRUE NOW” AND EXPECT ME TO ACCEPT THAT SHIT. No. Fuck you. Fuck your entire season AND the boat it rode in on. Just... fuck, man. FUCK.

The wedding was nice, though. I loved the musical aspect. Everyone did great in it. It was a truly lovely episode in almost every way, although I didn’t care for Emma’s dress and especially not her hairdo. It was too stark, too severe, but somehow too fancy at the same time... and it seemed more Jen Morrison than Emma Swan to me. Other than that, though, it was lovely. Everyone looked lovely. The singing was lovely. The vows were lovely. Shame about the whirling black vortex of doom, though.

Speaking of things that suck, I would also like to set that fucking doily shirt that Emma wore in 6x17 on fucking fire. And she actually DARED to rescue my man in that atrocity. Did she not realize I would need to SEE that shitty article of clothing every time I admired that dashing rescue? Did no one think of the KWs of the world who would suffer from this fashion faux pas?!?!

Oh, and I hate that they literally had Emma burn Killian’s image in the curse and not have any kind of recollection. I mean, I get that they wanted Henry to make her believe, and the way they got him to do that was cute, but did they HAVE to show Emma looking at Killian’s picture burning in the fire and being like, “Eh, he might ring a bell, but not enough to bother thinking about for more than a second or anything.” I could’ve done without that scene, honestly, because it just comes off like, “This love isn’t strong enough to break through this curse!” and EXCUSE ME, but where’s the fucking fun in that? Haven’t any of those bitches ever read a goddamn fanfic?! LOVE BREAKING THROUGH A CURSE IS ALL THE RAGE, GUYS. That’s the kind of shit we like to read and see in our OTPs. What’s with this “Eh, let that handsome fucker on page 172 burn” shit??

Oh, but that scene where Fiona serves the charred remains of the book to Henry on a platter would need to stay. That shit was stone cold savage. That bitch came to play, and that scene straight up told you that she was NOT going to be sitting at anyone’s Thanksgiving table next year, asking someone to pass the potatoes like she was just named People Magazine’s Redeemed Villain of the Year or something. She meant business.

Finally, I think I would’ve ended the show with the S6 finale. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed S7 and I loved KnightRook and Wish Hook and all the excellent Colin content we got that year... but in hindsight, the Hail Mary play of rebooting the series really just didn’t work, and S7 ended up as the “extra chapter” the series itself didn’t need. It’s not that I would want to give up the awesomeness of what we had... It’s just that I feel like if we hadn’t had it, we’d be unaware of what we were missing out on anyway, but the series as a whole would’ve maintained more of its impact and dignity.

But then, we were blessed with Wish Hook and the wonders of S7 Hooked Queen, so... :D I mean, coulda shoulda woulda, I’ve got ‘em now and you can’t take that away from meeee...

#ouat criticism #season 6 #not whxmp #anonymous #kw ask box

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ourloveisforthelovely · 6 years ago

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AU story. Your relationship with Gabriel wasn’t easy. Gabriel wasn’t the best boyfriend. He’s a bit of a man-whore thrown in with a bad temper. Things shatter but eventually Gabriel has an opportunity to win you back however, he has to deal with your older brothers Sam and Dean. Not to mention all of the drama that the past has created in the future.

A/N and warnings: language and vague emotional abuse

Words: 4,915

“Love the way you lie” Eminem

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“I love the way you lie” Gabriel woke up drenched from head to toe in a cold sweat from yet another nightmare. Sitting up he pulled his knees to his chest trying to calm his pounding heart. Gabriel ran a hand through his soaking golden hair. Hearing your voice in his dreams was almost a shock to his system. Gabriel cursed under his breath. He had been dreaming about you for almost a month and a half now. From going to barely thinking about you, his ex, to dreaming about you every night with raging hard ons his life was beginning to suck. It had been almost 2 years since the last time he had seen you and each passing day was worse, not better!

It didn’t help that whenever he flipped on the morning news he had to see your beautiful face. He would sit like a fool watching you practically drooling.

“She wouldn’t want me back.”

Gabriel said coldly trying to get the near painful erection to go away. It wasn’t a lie and Gabriel knew it. The relationship that he had with you was the the literal definition of hell. He knew that he was the root cause of most of it. From cheating on you whenever the opportunity presented itself to borderline emotional abuse he was far from a good boyfriend. Now his past doings were coming back to haunt him!

He sighed at the thought of how your arguments had left stuff broken and thrown around the house. Not to mention the times the neighbors called the cops because the two of you were so loud. The two of you would argue over anything and everything. It was mostly Gabriel’s cheating. You put up with it at first. However, as the relationship intensified and admissions of “I love you” happened; you didn’t want to look the other way.

“I don’t care if you care if you want to fall in love with a new person every night you are supposed to be in love with me. Stop being a slut Gabriel!”

Gabriel growled slamming his hand down on the mattress. If he would have just kept his pants zipped and came home to you at night everything would have been fine. His golden eyes rolled to your side of the bed. Gabriel hadn’t changed anything in the house since you had left. Hell, some of your clothes still hung in the closet. He couldn't bring himself to throw anything out!

He still remembered the day that he met you. It was not long after one of his first books came out and you were the reporter to interview him for a small newspaper that you had interned for. Right away Gabriel was flirting with you. He was in love with how your cheeks blushed when he made almost sexually explicit comments. You were young and from what he could tell pretty innocent.

After the interview, Gabriel had talked you into going out for a drink which led to him taking you home with him. After a few weeks of dates and passionate sex, you were moving in with him. Gabriel didn’t care in the slightest. In fact, he welcomed the idea. He had the hottest woman in the world and you were all his! Gabriel didn’t need all the slutty chicks he had hanging around anymore! He also didn't care that your older brothers were throwing a fit over their baby sister moving too quickly with a older guy! Screw them...

Looking back, Gabriel knew that you both had moved too fast. He should have done a lot of things differently. Instead of rushing to get his cock inside of you, he should have been wooing you. He should have showed you that he was in love with you. Also stating the obvious, there should have been no affairs PERIOD!!

For the first few months of the relationship, everything was perfect! He got to know your family better. Sam was a lawyer for a successful firm and Gabriel liked him well enough. He was definitely the nicer of the two! Dean on the other hand not so much. He was the stereotypical older brother who thought Gabriel wasn’t good enough. It didn’t help that Dean was seeing Gabriel’s younger brother Castiel.

Dean took his job as an older brother to an extreme that Gabriel hadn't quiet seen before! Sure, he would be protective over Cas if it needed to happen but the last thing that Gabriel was going to do was bash his brother's love interest....at least to his face.

“You’re too old for her”

“I know all about you”

“You’re a pig”

Those were the three sentences Gabriel had heard from Dean more than he wanted too. Gabriel tried to ignore the comments for your sake though. You didn’t need the bickering!

As all things did with Gabriel however, things began to go downhill. Gabriel wasn’t even for sure when it started. He didn’t have a fucking clue! All he knew that bad came flooding like a flash flood after a severe storm. The of of you were arguing and bickering over the smallest things. Like a cup that was left on the counter caused a world war three level argument that went on for three days and left Gabriel sleeping on the couch.

That’s when the affairs began. Gabriel was back to seeing the girls he had fucked before the relationship began. He could see the sadness in your eyes when he went “out for drinks with friends.” You knew exactly where he was going. He knew that you were no fool.

The night everything fell apart you were getting ready to go to a study group with a few of your college friends at a coffee shop. Gabriel didn’t want you to go because he knew a few guys that you had casually dated was going to be there.

“Stay home with me.”

He had asked sweetly hoping his honey sweet tone would keep you in with him. Those stupid college pricks wasn’t getting their hands on what was his. You rolled your eyes as you pulled on a loose black dress that showed too much thigh for Gabriel’s liking.

“Gabriel, I need to study for this literature test not to mention the calculus test for next week. I'll only be gone a few hours.”

“Study is a code word for getting fucked.”

Gabriel grumbled angrily. You spun looking at him with wide eyes.

“What did you just say?”

You asked, obviously. Gabriel crossed his arms over his chest.

“You’re cheating on me.”

You looked at him like he had officially lost his ever loving mind!

“Gabriel you are insane! You are the one going out to see whores at night. Not me.”

Gabriel couldn’t respond to that. He knew if he denied it you would call him a liar. If he told you the truth, he could beg for forgiveness although he wasn’t the begging type.

“Don’t even try to deny it. I saw the images on your computer and all of your ”dating” accounts. I have tried to look the other way because I love you. I thought I could change you and turn you into something you aren’t. I was very wrong. Do you really care about me or just fucking me?”

Gabriel raised an eyebrow.

“What’s the difference?”

Gabriel knew the response was cold and he shouldn't have said it but he wanted you to be miserable. He wanted you to see how upset he was with the thought of you being around your ex. Instead, your face looked instantly furious.

“It’s over, Gabriel!”

Gabriel’s mouth that hit the floor with that! He couldn’t believe what he was hearing.

“No! That is not what I want! Sugar, I can change. I just want you.”

You shook her head.

“I said we are done! I can't do this anymore!”

You turned walking from the house. Gabriel followed you, like a lost puppy, pleading the whole way for you to come back.

“Baby seriously it wasn’t you…I know this is me. We have something special you and I. I know you feel it too”

You shook your head as he reached out taking your hand pulling you back into his arms.

“Come on baby. Come back inside. Sleep with me one more night. Let me change your mind….let me show you how much I love you.”

You quickly pulled yourself out of his arms ignoring his golden eyes filling with tears.

“Those crocodile tears aren’t doing shit this time, Gabriel. It’s over.”

Gabriel looked down at the ground sadly. When he looked back up, he had gone into a complete Jekyll and Hyde mode.

“Where are you going to go?”

Gabriel asked smugly. Your friend that you had been sharing an apartment with before had a new roommate. He knew that you didn’t have the money to afford one on your own.

“I’m going home to my brothers.”

Gabriel froze at that. His golden eyes getting dark. Being sweet was getting him nowhere and he didn’t like it. His temper was beginning to show now. Like a snap of ones fingers, he went from boyfriend Gabriel to asshole Gabriel.

“Fine go. You’re right. I don’t want you either. You’re nothing but a spoiled brat, Y/n. I have plenty of girls that can give me everything I want.”

You shook you head. This just proved to you that he would never change. Gabriel would never change!

“Fine.”

The following days were some of the hardest for Gabriel. Immediately he regretted mutually breaking up with you. He had tried non stop to get you to come home to him.

“Please baby. I need you.”

“I’ll let you look through my phone every night.”

“I won’t go anywhere without you. You will know where I am and know I’ll be faithful.”

“Come home, Y/n. Everything I said was a lie.”

On morning 3, Sam and Dean showed up at the door. Gabriel was clearly shocked to see the bigger then humanly necessary Winchester brothers on on his door step.

“We are here to get Y/n's things. Move you little creep!”

Dean said coldly pushing past Gabriel as he began to gather anything of his sister’s he could find. Sam just gave Gabriel a displeased expression. Of the two brothers, Gabriel connected with Sam the easiest. He was an actual nice guy who tried to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Today, however, there was no benefit of the doubt. Today there was cold anger in his eyes.

“Sam, Dean please I need to talk to her.”

Gabriel managed to get out. Sam looked at Dean signaling for him to be quiet.

“Stay away from her, Gabriel. If you keep on bothering Y/n I will be slapping you with a restraining order. She doesn’t want you anymore.”

Gabriel knew at this point tell your brother’s that he loved and need you more than anyone on the earth would be pointless. They wouldn’t care that his depression was going on a downward spiral from the moment you had walked out of his door. If he told them that he was drinking himself to sleep Dean would probably tell him to drink a little more.

“What do you need a liver for anyway?”

As Sam grabbed the last box of stuff he looked back to Gabriel.

“Don’t darken our doorway again.”

Gabriel was pulled from his memory of the worst years of his life when his phone buzzed. He had changed a lot in the last year or so. No longer did he sleep with any woman who showed interest in him. He hadn’t even slept with a woman in a few months. The last girl he tried to date, Kali, turned out to be an epic disaster. Gabriel had called her by your name one night during making love. After that, she wanted nothing to do with him.

That at least gave him time to really work on his career as an author. He had lived comfortably for a while now his career was really taking off. If you were still home, you could have stayed home and maybe…just maybe the two of you could have started a family by now.

“God damn it, I really need to fucking stop.”

Gabriel cursed as he looked at the email from one of his publishers, who was informing him that he had an interview with the news station that you worked for. Gabriel’s heart pounded into over drive when he saw who the interview was with…Y/n Winchester.

In two days Gabriel would see his lover again! He lay back on the bed and turned to the bedside table that held an engagement ring. Gabriel had bought in hopes of smoothing the crumbling relationship over.

“I have to do something….”

Gabriel flipped on the TV and just like always there was your beautiful face delivering a news story. He smiled looking at you with longing eyes,

“Soon baby…”

On the first page of our story

The future seemed so bright

Then this thing turned out so evil

I don’t know why I’m still surprised

Even angels have their wicked schemes

And you take that to new extremes

But you’ll always be my hero

Even though you’ve lost your mind

Just gonna stand there and watch me burn

But that’s all right because I like the way it hurts

Just gonna stand there and hear me cry

But that’s all right because I love the way you lie

I love the way you lie

You looked down at your notebook with a sigh. This was one of the last entries you had made in the diary that you had kept when dating Gabriel. It had been so long since the break up but you still missed him like you did the day you left. Why you missed him you didn’t know. He didn’t deserve a moment of your time, according to Sam and Dean. You knew everything wasn’t Gabriel’s fault. you pushed him too. The fact of the matter was the two of you always knew how to push each others buttons more than anyone in the world.

A small squeak got your attention right away. You looked down to see your and Gabriel’s daughter had started to wake. Your heart pounded as you looked at the baby. When looking at Molly, it was impossible not to think of Gabriel. She looked so much like her father who had no idea that she was in existence. The pang of guilt hit you hard like it always did. You knew that you should have told Gabriel that you was pregnant even though he wouldn’t have cared.

Every time you had came close to calling Gabriel during your pregnancy you would chicken out. Your mind would go to the last conversation,

“Fine go. I don’t want you either. You’re nothing but a spoiled brat Y/n. I have plenty of girls that can give me everything I want.”

If he felt that way why would he want the baby? You knew that he deserved to know but for some reason, you just couldn’t make that call. The original plan was to tell him the night of the break up. Your plan was to come home from the study group and give him the pregnancy test that you had taken a few days before. At that time you were hoping the fact he gotten you pregnant would make Gabriel be faithful. Now you knew it would probably have pushed him further away.

You stood walking to the crib picking your daughter up with a smile.

“Good morning, Molly.”

You said with smile pressing a kiss to the baby’s chubby cheeks. The baby giggled wrapping her hands in her your long curls. You carefully wiggled your hair away so she couldn’t pull. Pulling hair had quickly become Molly's favorite activity. Neither Sam nor yourself stood a chance when Molly got in a hair pulling mood.

“Mama.”

The baby cooed. Molly had been saying simple words for several days. So far she got out “mama” and “dada” which broke your heart! Gabriel should be there hearing his baby ask for him. You knew the day was coming when Molly would ask questions on Gabriel.

“Where is my daddy? Don’t I have one?”

You knew that you would have to tell her the truth eventually. The little girl would deserve it! You would wait until Molly was an adult to tell her everything. You wouldn’t tell the child that her father was a man whore who wouldn’t keep his cock in his pants. The thought of telling her that when she would be an adult sounded awful as well too.

At least Molly had plenty of father figures in her life. Sam and Dean worshiped the ground the baby crawled upon. Cas would do anything the baby could possibly want and Bobby was so into the role of playing grandfather it was precious! It had been Cas that was in the delivery room with your when you gave birth. He was the closest thing to Gabriel that you had.

You knew it was hard for Cas not to tell his brother about his child. Cas however, agreed with you that keeping Molly a secret from Gabriel was a good thing right now.

“Molly doesn’t need to see her father with a new woman every week. You don’t need to see that either. The way Gabe did you was wrong and he knows it. We were raised better than that.”

Cas hadn’t even told their eldest brother Michael about the baby. He acted as though nothing was going on when he met his brothers for coffee from time to time.

A knock on the door pulled your from your thoughts. You looked up as Dean walked in dressed for work. He had been working with Bobby as a mechanic for a few years now and every morning he took Molly to Ellen, who watched her during the day.

“Came to see if Ms. Molly was ready to go to Nanny and Pop pop’s. Still kinda funny seeing Bobby go all mushy over a baby.”

You smiled and began to change Molly into her clothes. Dean watched you for a moment before trying to choose his words.

“Well, today is the day.”

You looked up taking a breath. Dean knew better than anyone that you were a nervous wreck about the interview with Gabriel. You hadn’t seen your ex since the day that you had left him. When you asked to have the interview assigned to another reporter, your boss said no. You knew he had no clue about your “history” with Gabriel and the last thing that you wanted was to let him know about it.

“Yeah, it is.”

Dean frowned.

“Are you going to tell him about Molly?”

You looked up. That had been the thought that was plaguing you for some time. You had a feeling that you would just blurt it out when the two of you started talking. When you were uncomfortable you tended to blurt things out that you really shouldn't.

“I don’t know Dean. I don’t know what I’m going to do... period.”

Dean sighed before taking on his “I am your big brother and I love you” tone.

“Y/n, I know I normally find any excuse to call Gabriel a no good douche bag among other things but I was thinking about our childhood and how dad was with us. He left us wondering so much. It may be a good idea to let him know about Molly. What he does with it after that is up to him. If he ever hurts you or her…I’ll kill him. I just don’t want Molly growing up like us.”

You turned looking at your brother with a pleased smile. This was a huge step for Dean to say something like this! It made you extremely proud of him in the moment!

“You’ve been talking to Sammy haven’t you?”

Dean nodded.

“Yeah…I have. He was right though. Just don’t let that little creep scare you. He’s lucky this interview is now and not when you were knocked up You would have scared the shit out of him. I would have paid money to have been able to see it happen to.”

You smiled before kissing Molly and handing her to Dean.

“It will be okay Dean.”

You said softly. Dean nodded kissing Molly’s head as she grinned up at him. He smiled looking down at the person he loved almost more than anyone in the world. She was the one person that made stuff make sense to him.

“I’ll see you tonight.”

He said with a smile before turning and walking from the room without another word.

Meanwhile….

Gabriel stood in his bedroom looking at his appearance. It was almost time to see you again and he was feeling like some 14 year old who was about to go on his first date. He knew he looked straight up awful. Gabriel hadn’t slept much in the two days since he found out he would be seeing you.

“I’ve got to get my shit together.”

He mumbled taking a sip of the whiskey that was sitting on the bedside table. Gabriel’s eyes went again to the drawer that held that engagement ring. Sitting down on the bed he took it out of the box looking down at the diamond ring. Gabriel sighed envisioning the ring on your finger. Here came the foolish feelings again that he had been dealing with over the past few days. Gabriel could see you in a white wedding dress, your hands locked in his, with that loving smile on your face.

“Now is the time to really knock this pansy shit off.”

A few hours later, Gabriel stood in the news studio trying to not make it obvious that he was looking for you. Playing it cool was the thing that he needed to do at the moment. When you finally appeared Gabriel’s heart began to pound. There you were. His beautiful lover was feet away talking to some girl who had to be an assistant of some sort. Gabriel was thankful that you hadn’t changed!

When turned his way, Gabriel could see the apprehension on your face. Great! This is just the opposite of what he wanted! He didn’t want you to look at him like you were scared of him.

“Please baby. Don’t look at me like that. I won’t hurt you again.”

He thought miserably. You finally gave him a tentative smile as you reached him.

“Hello, Gabriel.”

Your voice was like heaven to him. It’s like all of his dreams were coming alive and all he had to do was reach out and grab you.

“Hi Y/n. It’s good to see you. You look so beautiful.”

Your face went red as you looked away from your ex. Damn, you hated to admit it but you were still so in love with him. Although he looked exhausted and like he had been through hell, Gabriel was still sexy! Whenever he had a new book coming out he worked nonstop until it was done. So looking exhausted was no shock to her. There had been many nights that you had to force him away from his computer to go to bed.

You had to look away from his amber eyes and look elsewhere. It didn’t help that she looked to his hips. Mentally cursing when you realized that he was wearing those tight jeans that made his ass perfect.

You finally knew that it was time to get your head in the game. Drooling over Gabriel was going to get you nowhere. Soon enough Gabriel would pick up on what you were doing and it would all be over.

“We’ll be in this room over here.”

The next hour went pretty smooth. You kept your eyes on your paper trying to be as professional as possible. Getting done early, the two of you sat in an uncomfortable silence. Gabriel finally looked up having enough.

“How have you been, sugar?”

Your emerald eyes rolled up.

“Gabriel, please don’t do this.”

Gabriel sighed. He hated seeing that pain in your eyes. Gabriel was no fool. He knew you was replaying the last fight in your head.

“Y/n, there is so many things I have wanted to say to you.”

You pressed your lips together. This was what you was dreading! Your mind went instantly to Molly as your looked at Gabriel’s annoyed expression. That was the same look Molly would give you when she was frustrated.

“Gabriel, that ship had sailed.”

Gabriel sighed frustrated.

“Y/n, I’m not asking you to get in bed with me.”

You nodded.

“I know. Gabriel, I need to tell you something.”

Gabriel ran a hand through his golden locks.

“What?”

You took a breath. It was now or never. He deserved to know!

“Gabriel, when I left…when I left I was pregnant.”

You were almost afraid to look at his face. It took almost all the bravery that had to look up at him. Gabriel was frozen. He looked at you with a face full of shock.

“We have a baby? WE have a baby and you didn’t tell me?! What the hell, Y/n?!”

You swallowed. This was the reaction that you didn’t expect. You honestly expected him to blow it off like it was nothing. Instead, his amber eyes looked a mixture of heart broken and furious.

“Yes, we do. I didn’t tell you because I assumed you wouldn’t care. Think about it Gabriel how do you think I felt? You told me that you didn’t want me. Why would you want our baby? There is also the way you are. Do you think I would want our child growing up around all of your whores?”

Gabriel sighed. He put his face in his hands before looking back up at you.

“You have a fair point there. Y/n, you should know something though. I haven’t been with anyone in months. I know that’s hard for you to believe but I haven’t. You’re the only woman I have been craving. I did you wrong and you didn’t deserve it. Our baby…what is it?”

You pushed the thoughts of the relationship from your mind.

“A girl. Her name is Molly.”

You quickly took your phone out and flipping to the photo section before handing the phone across the table to Gabriel. You watched his expression carefully. Gabriel instantly smiled as he looked through the pictures.

“Isn’t she beautiful?”

You asked softly. Gabriel smiled letting his finger trace over his daughter’s round face. Never in a million years did Gabriel even plan on having children. One thing he always prided himself on was being careful with his various lovers. He made sure never to risk knocking them up. You was the only girl he never used protection with. It always seemed he was in a huge rush to get inside of you that he never once considered putting on a condom. He liked the feeling of your wet body milking him for everything he was worth. In the moment that was another thing, he considered telling you. He wanted you to know that he never let someone touch him that way. That was just you.

“She’s the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Y/n, I don’t know what to say. I hate that you even had the thought I wouldn’t care. Sugar, I would have been there for it all.”

He knew you probably didn’t believe him but it needed to come out. You took a deep breath.

“Gabriel, if you want to be a part of her life I won’t stop you.”

He nodded.

“Yes, I want to be a part of her life…and yours…the way we should have been.”

You swallowed looking away.

“Gabriel, I’m not ready to talk about that.”

Gabriel looked down like a sad child nodding.

“I really want to see my baby.”

You walked out of the news studio beside Gabriel. Neither had really said anything since you had shot down his advance of another go at their relationship. Gabriel walked you to your car.

“Do you want me to just follow you to Dean’s?”

You nodded as Gabriel reached out cupping your cheek. You felt your body instantly began to get wet just at the skin on skin contact.

“Gabriel…no.”

He sighed.

“Can’t blame me for trying. See you soon.”

Once in the car, you fought the urge to cry as you watched Gabriel walk to his new Dodge Challenger. You smirked at the thought of how hot he looked in that car but her heart ached watching him walk away. He was so willing to take you back. You could easily tell him that you would go back to being his and he would be happy as a clam.

“This is going to be interesting...”

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bansheeoftheforest · 3 years ago

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Jaylock, specifically with transmasc Jekyll? T4T legends.

Ah yes, my favorite mix; a trans guy who wants to get trample by a big, strong werewolf, and a trans werewolf who is basically just a puppy. Hell yes <3

Also did I say that these were going to be complimentary to canon? Ahahah well I have no idea how to do that with thi- oh yeah it's an au it doesn't have to be canon complaint ahah nvm also realize i keep steering these to how these ship begins but eh no one has complained so far <3

Also at this point I think I will have to put in keep reading links bc these are getting long sjdhfsjdf

MMmokay. We can all agree that Jasper had a huge crush on Henry from the beginning? Good.

Like, Henry saved him from the cops, was incredibly nice to him from the beginning, and showed him/let him join the Society in the first place. Jasper looks up to him a lot. Henry becomes his only real friend (except for Rachel but... Well... She is more out to get with him rather than be friends with him) so of course he would just... Really... Really... Like Henry after a while.

Virginia catches Jasper watching Henry talking to some of the other Lodgers at some point and she knows exactly what he is thinking. He can try defending himself for exactly 3 seconds before all excuses die in his throat and Virginia begins to pat his back.

"That's normal, mate. Everyone has a crush on Henry at some point." - "Everyone????" - "Yep. You won't hear half of this lot admit it, but everyone has had some kind of crush on him." - "Even you?" - "I said everyone, didn't I?"

Cue a lot of embarrassment from Jasper, cue a lot of understanding and sympathetic gossiping by the other Lodgers, cue a lot of "What do you mean that's the best thing about Henry?", cue a lot of "don't worry, you'll get over the crush soon!".

Except he doesn't. He waits days, weeks, maybe even months, but the crush never disappears. The fact that Henry is so stupidly sweet and caring and loves to spend time with him doesn't help Jasper's situation at all. And the Lodgers notice, and the Lodgers tease him about it.

Henry, as often, remains blissfully unaware.

Or at least that's what Jasper thinks. When Henry comes around to his lab to say hi and check in, and when he brings him some sweets that he claims Rachel sent him to give to him, and when Henry just so happens to eye Jasper up and down, Jasper believes that Henry is just being... Friendly. Very friendly.

And he is just being friendly, at least Henry tells himself that too. Or maybe it's the way he sometimes have a hard time looking away from the werewolf that he realizes that he is... Quite accidentally... Being a bit more than friendly.

And then Jasper-- accidentally or inaccidentally-- comes out to Henry. Perhaps it would be like the same panic in canon but him actually confessing to Henry instead, or Henry would maybe accidentally walk in on Jasper changing. Either way, Jasper halfly panics and Henry just gets the brightest grin on his face, so excited, before he immediately tells Jasper that he can be calm because he understands perfectly!

He doesn't even manage to get out that he, too, is trans, before he immediately starts asking Jasper if he has started to medically transitioned-- like "have you had any surgeries? Or have you taken potions? Oh there are a lot of good potions to change-- personally, Lanyon helped me with surgeries but I made some helpful potions for Virginia-- Oh did you know Virginia is like us, too? But reverse, of course--"

Henry is just. Rambling to poor Jasper. Poor Jasper who is permanently stuck in a :O. He can barely process the words that his very own crush is telling him. For a moment his brain shortcuts and all he can do is to stare at Henry-- the way he is so wildly gesturing as the words roll off of his tongue at 100 words per second. But then Henry notices Jasper's confusion, and he stops, and he repeats himself. He is trans, too.

It ends up with the two of them having a long, long conversation about gender identity as the evening wears on. Henry tells Jasper practically everything he knows about it. He tells him how it wasn't until he started puberty that he realized that it felt wrong, but he couldn't fully transition until later on in life. Lanyon helped him with surgeries but it wasn't until he fully started playing into alchemy that he found and created potions that could help with transitions.

To make a long story short, Henry promises to help Jasper with transitions.

Maybe that's why they suddenly kept getting closer after that. They could relate to each other. Suddenly they wanted to spend more time together. Oh wow huh they are really spending a lot of time together. Wow they are sitting really close... Huh... Wow, wow, wow, Henry is certainly in Jasper's personal space... And Jasper is not pulling away...

Oh wow they smooching. So much smooching. So much smooching yet it's so soft and careful and gentle, Jasper practically melts; melts into the kiss just as much as he melts into Henry's arms.

Aight now some time for the actual relationship hcs.

Hai yes I have said this with every ship so far but consider; cuddles. Jasper is a cuddle bug, Henry craves the warmth and affection.

(Both of them can agree that their favorite cuddles are the full moon cuddles when Jasper is just. A fluffy werewolf. And Henry can bury his entire self into his fur).

Boyfriends helping each other with hormone injections? Boyfriends helping each other with hormone injections.

Sometimes Henry will be very swamped in paperwork, sometimes Jasper wants cuddles, sometimes they compromise and Jasper gets to sit on Henry's lap while he does paperwork. Sometimes Zosi or Christopher will be jealous and it will end up with them in Jasper's lap, too.

Jasper is the only one that supports Henry's obsession with wanting every pet he finds. Jasper is also Henry's alibi when a new stray animal ends up in the Society ("ahah what do you mean "new stray" that's Abby, y'know, one of Jasper's pets").

Jasper's main goal in life is to hear Henry talking in his Scottish accent as much as possible. Jasper is the only one Henry allows to hear it.

Cuddles in bed with Jasper tracing Henry's chest scars (is... Is there an actual word for those scars? Ahaha I don't know) and Henry stroking his hands over Jasper's sides, almost happy that Jasper didn't have to go through surgeries like he did.

Rachel and Robert teasing Henry for having a thing for werewolves? Rachel and Robert teasing Henry for having a thing for werewolves.

So many smooches. Henry can't keep his lips off of Jasper for more than a minute most of the time. So many hugs and so many cuddles after a long day of boring meetings and socializing. Jasper always giggles because he is super ticklish.

Henry reading a book or the newspaper on the couch, reading glasses hanging low on his nose, drinking a glass of wine with his free hand while Jasper is seated on his lap, head rested against his shoulder as he gently snoozes bc poor boy is tired <3

Henry has... Stupidly many nicknames for Jasper. "Fluffball", "Fluffpuff", "Sweetheart", "Wolfie", "My Mister", "Little Sir". He literally will come up with something on the spot and stick with it because Jasper will always giggle and blush.

Surprisingly, Henry is the clingy one. He is also the small spoon most of the time. Man is just skin and bone, he can curl up perfectly so that Jasper, i.e chubby and strong legend McGee, can hold him <3

Virginia third-wheels them a lot. It will start as her trying to have a conversation with her mentor and fellow trans legend and then they will be interrupted by a clingy (and also fellow trans legend) Jasper who came to Jekyll's office in the search for some attention and affection. It ends up with Jasper on Henry's lap while Henry continues his conversation with Virginia like nothing happened.

Jasper was the first one to get to know about Hyde. He was... Surprisingly unbothered and casual about it. That was, at least, until Hyde pinned him against a wall one night and began to flirt with him. Jasper was quite sure his face exploded with blush.

Hyde loves to tease Jasper. Henry constantly tells him off for being... Ah, well, uhm... AH... Too "flirty" with him, so to speak. Jasper has learned to turn the other way and run every time he catches the sight of blond hair or a whiff of spearmint unless he wants to get a heart attack.

Have I told you how much I love the thought of werewolf cuddles?

Also, full werewolf!Jasper basically losing his... Um, sense of awareness? Like he forgets that he is human and he often forgets who the people in his surroundings are, unlike when he was a half-werewolf and fully aware.

What I'm saying is; give me werewolf!Jasper being so incredibly curious by Henry and sniffing him everywhere, somehow opening his shirt just so he can lick his scars because the pack and mate instincts in Jasper is through the roof and his mate is hurt why is he hurt wHO HURT HIM hE SHALL HEAL HIM THROUGH THE POWER OF KISSES.

Henry kissing Jasper's snout. Henry rubbing Jasper's belly. Henry constantly praising and complimenting Jasper.

Henry always making sure Jasper knows how handsome and manly he is. Henry always making sure that Jasper has clothes that aren't torn or dirty and that are comfortable and fits well. Henry doting on Jasper.

Jasper always being there for Henry when things get rough. Jasper stating everything that he loves with Henry and kissing him on the nose when all Henry wants to do is smash his head against the desk and cry. Jasper and Henry taking care of each other <3

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