#i just want a valerie who respects phantom

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The Box Ghost did endanger the world once when he got ahold of the actual Pandora's Box.

But also one time he was left to his own devices and wreaked BEWARE! havoc on unsuspecting mall goers. Which meant he ended up giving away free box lunches and things that made people happy from inside boxes. He was very confused and disappointed.

I'd love to see a dpxdc story where the Justice League knows about Amity Park and the Ghosts the whole time, and does think the ghosts are rogues to be addressed. Doesn't agree with the GIW, maybe doesn't even know about them? THE IMPORTANT PART.

The Red Huntress is the only active vigilante in Amity Park, according to the JL. Phantom is marked as one of her rogues. Maybe the Fentons even are marked as rogues from all the property damages and random shooting/sliming of citizens. Valarie is the only person successfully taking care of the ghosts, masking and suiting up in the classic vigilante way the whole time.

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Danny Phantom needed better arcs (or why The Ghost and Molly Mcgee did it better)

I have been reading some old posts from Monotype on phantom, mainly those that talk about continuity and how Danny Phantom should have had better written arcs, with having plot threads and characters arcs being left open and often with no proper closure. In these posts Danny Phantom gets compared to series like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls in terms of how these shows use pacing and development to tell their stories.

So i was thinking since i usually talk about parallels between Danny Phantom and The Ghost and Molly Mcgee, why not compare the two? And you would think ¨why are you comparing an action superhero show to a more comedy slice of life show?¨ And let me tell you, considering what The Ghost and Molly Mcgee was able to pull off, i think it is more than fair to do this comparison.

I assume that most of my followers know what Danny Phantom is so i won't dive into what the series is about. In The Ghost and Molly Mcgee's case, for those who don't know, it is a series about Molly McGee and her family moving to an old house where a ghost named Scratch lives is in. Molly and Scratch become best friends over the course of the series, something that brings them issues along the way. While the series is more comedy slice of life, it has arcs that get explored through the show and there is a constant change in the characters and the world itself.

Having explained that, lets move to the comparison between these shows: I think it would be good to start with Danny Phantom trio development (Danny, Sam, Tucker) vs The Ghost and Molly Mcgee ¨Comet trio¨ (Molly, Scratch and Libby) development in the first season of each show.

So Danny as main character gets plenty of episodes about him. Some good examples of these are "Attack of the Killer Garage Sale", "What You Want", "Bitter Reunions", "My Brother's Keeper" and "Teacher of the Year". He gets an overall arc in the firsy season and the series as a whole. We can agree that in that way he is a well developed character.

But what about Sam and Tucker? Sam has "Parental Bonding", "Control Freaks" and maybe "Fanning the Flames". Tucker has "What You Want" and some in "Teacher of the Year" They also have some B plots that explore their characters in some episodes too...

However, they don't really feel that well developed? They don't even seem like to have a proper arc in contrast to Danny this season. Just some good scenes here and there.

In contrast The Ghost and Molly Mcgee has the three characters from the Comet Trio developing and changing through the season. -Molly has different episodes about learning to respect other people's boundaries better ("Mazel Tov, Libby!", "Ready, Set, Snow!") or how being positive all the time isn't always a good thing ( "All Systems No") -Libby has a whole arc about learning to overcome some of her anxieties and insecurities until she grows to be more confident of herself ( "Mazel Tov, Libby!" and "Talent Show") and she has episodes that explore other sides of her character. ( "Monumental Disaster", "Festival of Lights") -And Scratch- i could write a lot about him but he has some character growth every other episode and the changes he goes through Season 1 alone are very noticeable. He is a characters who just develops a lot in the series.

Overall, i think it is fair to say that the Comet Trio from The Ghost and Molly Mcgee is more developed and has better arcs when compared to the Phantom trio from Danny Phantom

Another example of this is how Valerie Gray and Ollie Chen character arcs get handled in both respective series. Both start as semi antagonists that are ghosthunters who fall in love with the main teenager character and hate ghosts but gradually change their views about it through the show.

The main difference is how Ollie Chen has more of a complete character arc while Valerie Gray doesn't.

Valerie was going through some good development around Season 1 and Season 2 with her motivations being explored and her relationship with Danny changing over time. She gets some good episodes on Season 1 and a few in the first half of Season 2. The problem is that after the "Flirting with Disaster" the show seemed to forget about Valerie for around half of its run until the penultimate episode of the series "D-Stabilized". And even then she never gets a proper conclusion to her learning about Danny being Phantom nor able to regret her past actions from previous episodes. She doesn't get to have speaking lines in the series finale ¨Phantom Planet¨ neither.

Comparing Valerie to Ollie Chen, it doesn't take too long for Ollie to learn that Molly has been hiding she has a ghost (Scratch) as her best friend. He learns about this near the end of the episode ¨I Wanna Dance with Some-Ollie¨.

This leaves him emotionally crushed and that gets explored in later episodes with him learning that all ghosts aren't evil and he changes his views about them. ("Frightmares on Main Street", "The Unhaunting of Brighton Video") He later has episodes that he confronts his family about these views they have too like "Welcome to NecroComic-Con".

I do have my issues with Ollie as character but one thing i can give him is that he has a completed character arc by the end of Season 2. He learns to overcome his hatred of ghosts and reflect on his past actions, trying to be better over time.

I think one factor is that The Ghost and Molly Mcgee had less issues with changing the status quo than Danny Phantom did. What happens in one episode can have an impact on later episodes and the characters change in these. This is because these shows came during different times but also that Tgamm had its characters arcs and development better planned from the start. Danny Phantom episodes were just written as the production went along and a lot of times the team didn't have a clear plan in mind of where things should go.

That doesn't mean that The Ghost and Molly Mcgee isn't without its flaws. Season 2 is kind of a mess in how it handles its arcs and some things should have been better paced. In spite of that, i think the series in a lot of ways did a better job at using continuity and arcs than what Danny Phantom did. There are more examples i could cite but these ones are the closest that come to mind to do this comparison.

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I like Vlad and the concept of Badger Cereal... But in canon, Skulker was probably a better frenemy to Danny...

Because 1. Skulker never flirted with Danny's Mom...

2. Danny and Skulker have some level of actual respect for each other, while Danny only hates (and kinda fears) Vlad in canon (Danny felt a bit of sympathy for Future Vlad, but that's it)...

3. Skulker teams up with and succeeds in helping Danny at least 4 times (in prison, facing Pariah Dark, facing Ghost Writer and the green asteroid), while Danny teaming up with Vlad ended with them losing to Pariah and later Vlad only helping last minute to lock Pariah away, or Vlad ditching Danny to get attacked by Vortex...

This isn't Vlad hate, I'm just saying that most people overlook Skulker's potential, as a frenemy to Danny. 🤔

I'm gonna have to politely disagree with you here, anon 😂 Skulker attempted to straight up kill Danny—repeatedly—and makes regular threats against his life. He wants Danny's dead, flayed carcass nailed to his trophy wall, in no uncertain terms.

This is his enduring MO. Vlad had to step in and literally save Danny's neck in Bitter Reunions.

It makes Vlad's flirtations with Danny's mom seem pretty negligible, to be honest.

Skulker also tried to slaughter Dash along with Danny in Micro Management, and he pitted Valerie and Danny against each other in Life Lessons for the sole purpose of hunting the stronger of the two.

Cranial tether ball is pretty damn metal gruesome. This dude is like the bloodthirstiest Klingon who ever lived. Except for the Christmas episode and his brief cameo in Phantom Planet, he's never not presented as a serious threat to Danny's life. He's out for blood and guts in the worst way. I just don't see him ever reaching "frenemy" status with Danny (in canon, at least; what happens in fanfic and AUs is a whole other ballgame, just like Badger Cereal and Cheese Melt).

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Unexpected Connections

Summary: No One Knows AU Part 14, Vlad approaches Valerie on her way to a meetup with Danny.

Author's Note: Sorry updates have been a little slower, unfortunately that's probably going to continue because school has been kicking my ass. Thanks for your patience while I have less time to write!

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Vlad approaches Valerie while she’s on her way to the park, and it creeps her out a little bit.

Sure, he could have spotted her very casually and decided to talk to her just as casually, but he’d approached with just enough purpose to make her nervous.  But before he starts speaking, she makes sure to shake the feeling off.  She can trust Vlad.  He’s her ally.

“Ms Gray, I heard you had a fight with Phantom,” Vlad says, in a tone way too purposeful to be the start of a casual conversation.

Valerie nods.  “Plus that vampire ghost.  I don’t know his name.”

“Plasmius,” Vlad says with a nod.  “He’s one of Phantom’s underlings.”

“He is?” Valerie asks, raising an eyebrow.  “He seemed more powerful than Phantom.”

Or well, that wasn’t quite it.  He’d seemed more willing to act than Phantom had.  Phantom mostly ran.  This guy attacked her.

Not that Phantom was unable to find other ways to ruin things.

“Ally, technically,” Vlad says, waving his hand dismissively.  “But you know how little Phantom respects others.”

Valerie looks at Vlad for a moment, but sees nothing but sincerity in his face.  “Sure.”

She turns to keep walking towards the park.  “If you want me to help train today, I’m sorry but I’m busy,” she says.  Like she’s gonna drop her park date— park time with Danny just to babysit Thing 1 and Thing 2.

“You owe it to them after that fight,” Vlad says.

Valerie stops and turns to face him in bafflement.  “What are you talking about?”

“Ms Gray,” Vlad says, turning to face her.  “You left them there alone right after the fight was over.”

Valerie gave a startled laugh.  “What?  Is that what they told you?”

Vlad’s gaze turns puzzled.  “I’m sorry?  Did something else happen?”

“Yeah, something else happened, I got hurt,” Valerie snaps.  “And then they left me.”

Vlad’s eyes widen slightly, but his voice is still smooth when he responds.  “I see.”

“So maybe instead of getting pissy with me for leaving them, you should pick people for me to help who have the slightest bit of loyalty to teammates,” Valerie says, and moves to walk forward and end the conversation.

“Ms Gray,” Vlad says before she can get too far, “do you remember your first ghost fight?”

“Uh, yeah,” Valerie says, turning around.  “What’s your point?”

“Were you frightened?”

“None of your business,” Valerie snaps, probably a little too quickly.

“It’s perfectly alright if you were,” Vlad says.  “It’s dangerous, dangerous things are scary, especially in the beginning.  They’re learning, they were probably frightened themselves.”

“They didn’t seem all that frightened to me,” Valerie says, crossing her arms.

“Of course they didn’t,” Vlad says.  “They don’t want to seem any more inexperienced than you’re constantly telling them they are.”

“Excuse me?  Are you saying this is my fault?”

“Of course not, my dear.  I’m saying they likely rushed off because they were overwhelmed.  You did leave them behind to try and chase Phantom on your own, you know.  And they need to be there, to learn.  You’re more equipped to handle getting hurt.  And didn’t one of them mention they got hurt too?”

Valerie narrows her eyes but doesn’t say anything.

“That’s all I’m saying, my dear,” Vlad says.  “Just make sure you’re there to support them in fighting Phantom.  It’s bound to be hard for them, they need all the help they can get.”

Valerie opens her mouth to snap back at him, but before she can he says, “That’s all,” again, and walks off, much faster than she would have expected.

Valerie blinks again, trying to process what just happened.  Did he really just show up, say “hey I know you got hurt but suck it up because you’re used to it and help these two people who I seem to like way more than you and that you can’t stand”, and then leave again?

“Hey Val,” comes a sudden voice, and Valerie spins around to find Danny approaching her.  She stares at him for a second, looks around again, and realizes she’d reached the park while walking with Vlad.

But she hasn’t had enough time to stamp out all of her anger, and Danny seems to pick up on that.

“Are you okay?” he asks, giving her a curious look.

“I— fine,” Valerie manages, trying to wave her hand dismissively.

“You sure?” Danny asks, raising an eyebrow.

Valerie sighs, and turns to look back towards the park.  “Just— an annoying conversation.”  She moves to start walking, and thankfully Danny picks up the single and joins her.

She really can’t talk to Danny about Vlad, so instead she shakes her hands out a couple times and tries to refocus on the good time she came here to have.

Valerie tries to look around at the people milling about, but it’s not working that well.  She can tell Danny wants to ask.  But he doesn’t, and they only take a few steps when Valerie realizes she really wishes he would.

“I just,” she says before she thinks it through.  “Look, these people— they’re just being like— I have a life too, you know?  I have things to do and stuff going on.  And they’re not even trying to understand where I’m coming from!  It’s all about how those two somehow matter way more than me, and what I’m going through doesn’t matter in the slightest!  I thought I was supposed to be important to him!  I used to be!  Am I just insignificant now that he’s found other people he likes more?  Because that’s a real shitty move to pull!  I’m not a tool to be used and discarded, I’m a person!  You know?”

She spins to face Danny, who’s staring at her, and Valerie realizes she just said all that out of nowhere.

“Of course you don’t know,” she says, reaching up to massage her temple.  “I’m sorry.  I didn’t mean to dump all that on you.”

“No no, it’s okay,” Danny says, holding up his hands.  “I actually— I kind of get it.”

Valerie blinks.  “Huh?”

“I mean, I’m not going through exactly that,” Danny says, rubbing the back of his neck.  “But sometimes— uh, this person, makes me feel like I’m just around to vent to.  Like they don’t care how I’m doing or even care about just doing stuff together.  When it didn’t used to be like that.  And it really… I mean I don’t love it.”

Valerie looks at him for a minute.  “Oh,” she says.  “I— that’s not what I was trying to do—”

“I know,” Danny cuts her off.  “Don’t worry.  You looked like you needed to let off some steam when you got here, I get it.”

Valerie looks at him for a minute.  She hadn’t expected Danny to relate in any capacity.  And there’s only so many people he could be talking about.  It’s not like he has nearly as many friends as she used to have.  There’s a whole slew of people Valerie could be talking about, though she doubts Danny would guess the real answer.  She can only think of two, maybe three people that Danny could mean.

But Danny didn’t ask her.  And she can tell he doesn’t want her to ask him.  Still, she doesn’t want to go on a rant about her problems, let him respond “yeah I kind of get it this person’s using me as an emotional dumping ground,” and then not offer him the chance to say anything else.

So, she keeps her gaze on Danny as they continue walking, and says slowly, “Do you wanna talk about it?”

“Oh uh, no, no I’m good,” Danny says, looking away.  “It’s uh, really personal, and stuff.  And I like you, but we kind of just now met for real and all that, and… yeah.”

There’s a long pause, and Valerie can tell there’s something he’s not saying— well, there’s a lot he’s not saying, but she knows what it looks like when you’re holding something back versus deciding more casually not to talk about it.

But he did say no.

“Do uh,” Danny says finally, turning to face her.  “Do you want to talk about—”

“No!” Valerie says, a little too quickly.  “No I— I’m good.  You know, too.”

There’s another long pause, and both of them just look at each other for a minute.  And for as much as Valerie really can’t talk about Vlad to Danny, having him relate to how used she feels was nice, and she doesn’t want it to end, really.

So finally, she opens her mouth.

“But it sucks, right?”

“Oh my god, so much!” Danny exclaims.  “It’s like—” he makes a bunch of irritated gestures, and despite not saying anything, Valerie gets what he’s feeling.

“I know right?” she says back.  “And—” she copies his irritated gesture and makes a couple noises of frustration.

Danny responds in kind, and they both do that for a couple seconds, both the motions and noises building in intensity until they finally both just lean in closer and say “YEAH!” at the same time.

And the exclamation is absurd enough to make them realize they’re both right in each other’s face, which causes them both to lean back with laughter that feels a little awkward, but so much lighter than it would have been when they first got to the park— at least, Valerie feels so.

They both stand up as they stop laughing, and Valerie finds herself smiling at Danny.  “Hey, thanks for listening,” she says.  “I mean, I didn’t really mean to start talking about all that when I came here today, just… thanks.”

Danny smiles back at her.  “You’re welcome,” he says with a nod.  “Thanks for listening to me too.”

“Anytime,” Valerie says, shrugging.  “Whether you want to actually talk about what’s happening or just use super vague terms and talk about things more around what’s happening.”

Danny snorts.  “Right back at you,” he says.  There’s another moment of quiet, and then Valerie glances around.  She spots a bridge up ahead of them that goes over a small creek, and points it out as a subject change and place to walk to, and the two of them start over.

And Valerie tries to focus on that and not on just how much she’s starting to enjoy spending time with Danny Fenton.

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A quick rundown of everyone’s Guardian Characters for Shugo Phantom, my and @this-is-z-art-blog ‘s DP x Shugo Chara crossover. For @crossoverdanuary Day 5: Shell! (Because eggs have shells. It’s a stretch, I know)

DANNY

Lune - Danny’s first Guardian Character. A put-together little nerd. Lune is very smart, and loves astronomy and physics. Born of Danny’s love of learning and desire to be an astronaut.

Soul - Danny’s second Guardian Character. An outgoing superhero character. He’s born of Danny’s desire to be helpful and brave enough to do the right thing!

SAM

Blossom - A sweet, laid-back hippie who loves flowers. She is born of Sam’s passion for the environment. They aim to stand up for those who can’t stand up for themselves.

TUCKER

Jameson - A very technologically savvy James Bond-type spy. He was born of Tucker’s desire to be charismatic, clever, and talented. Jameson is cool and collected, unless there’s fancy tech around!

KWAN

Prose - A cozy knit sweater kinda guy! He’s very gentle and kind, and enjoys reading books. Born of Kwan’s love of reading and desire to be a gentle giant. He uses big words and loves to talk.

VALERIE

Clementine - Val’s first Guardian Character. A fashionable and popular gal! She was born of Val’s desire to be liked. When Val is rejected by her friend group, Clem returns to her egg while Val focuses on her other goals. Once she re-hatches, she is born of Val’s desire to like herself, so she’s Val’s biggest hype girl.

Red - Val’s second Guardian Character. Cool and serious, and very determined. She gets along well with Jameson. She is responsible and is born of Val’s desire to be more mature and “adult”.

STAR

Selenia - A studious scientist. Born of Star’s love of learning and desire to be a chemist. Very smart and gets along well with Lune! She knows most things but excels at chemistry.

DANI

Sol - Dani’s first Guardian Character, born of Dani’s desire to be Vlad’s perfect daughter. Sol’s personality changes and grows as Dani realizes the perfect daughter for Vlad is who she is on the inside and not who Vlad wants her to be.

Lun - Dani’s second Guardian Character. Born of Dani’s desire to be a little gremlin and also a little hero, Lun is stubborn and headstrong. Takes a lot after Danny because Dani really respects and adores him.

DASH

Jonas - Just a cutesy little pop singer! Very sweet and affectionate, often singing little nonsense songs. Born of Dash’s love of “girly” things, and his desire to be unashamedly himself (and loved for it).

PAULINA

Reina - Born of Paulina’s desire to be a princess. Fortunately for Paulina, Reina always expects to get what she wants. Unfortunately for Paulina, Reina also knows that a princess is polite, respectful, and responsible. They often argue but have similar tastes in everything.

EMBER

Solo - An intense rocker who is determined to get the world dancing and singing! She is born of Ember’s love of singing and wants the whole world to be able to hear Ember’s voice!

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Val & Sid🔻🪞

    For my rewrite, I definitely want Sid and Val to meet and talk. 

My Sid’s pretty much the embodiment of adolescent rage and revenge at its finest, his desire for revenge against bullies drove him to the deep end, costing him his own life and almost costed others lives as well. 

My Val in my version got quite wronged by Danny(unintentionally) his recklessness and anger fighting Vlad led to him accidentally injuring Valerie’s dad, leaving him unable to keep his job. Ever since she’s been putting herself in danger and sacrificing a lot to get payback on not just Danny but the other ghosts, she deems a threat.

He’d honestly sympathize well with my Val, seeing her anger very justified and wanting to stop her from going too far and making the same mistakes he made. He also wants to help save Danny from her wrath, while he doesn’t hold it against Val for being angry with Danny, he’s still his friend and understands from his end he meant no harm and is trying to make things right and def doesn’t deserve to die.

Val- Why shouldn’t I get back at Phantom!? He’s done nothing but hurt me and I didn’t do anything to him then! AND I KNOW MY DAD DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO DESERVE WHAT HE DID! Why shouldn't I give him a taste of his own medicine!?

Sid- How do you think I ended up like this? 

Val-…

I think it’d be a good part of both their development.

Sid at this point understanding the costs of revenge and even trying to help someone who at an earlier part he would’ve considered a bully. She was possibly also one of his targets during his revenge pranks with Danny(from my ep rewrite which can be found in his links) He finally sees the world's not all black and white, but many shades…of gray. He also has a habit of jumping to conclusions and assuming only the worst in jerks and bullies, and also relates to Val there as well(her assuming only the worst in ghosts). With Val being a former A-Lister and wasn't always the nicest person, he realizes there really could be more than meets the eye and that people can genuinely change and grow.

For Val, she’s having to see one of the worst case examples of what can happen to her if she keeps continuing this path of revenge and blind rage and how it can easily cost her everything or worse, make her into someone worse and end up continuing the vicious cycle( he who fights monsters or in this case she who fights ghosts). She also ends up realizing atleast that with ghosts, it’s also not always as black and white like she thinks, meeting a ghost that actually sympathizes and relates to her…even if it doesn’t make her stop hunting, it atleast makes her realize she shouldn’t just deem all ghosts as evil and dangerous, or that they deserve to all be wiped out.

Ngl I can imagine Sid’s mantis half really respect and even want to help Val or atleast leave Phantom for her to take out. He has a code for personal arches. I can even see her call Val “ladybug” for her color scheme and can be a formidable predator to insects like the Praying Mantis🐞

He respects her “as a fellow hunter for vindication”. And at this point, she’s also gotten good development and changed her attitude, making her no longer the type of target he’d go after unless provoked by her first.

Overall I think they really could benefit from meeting each other.

I can honestly see Tangled, Nothing Left To Loose fit them very well, Sid trying to discourage Val on her vendetta quest.

Here's info on my versions and how my Sid died

Valerie

Sidney

How he died

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Danny Phantom Enemies Headcanons

This headcanon is gonna be about the many characters from the series Danny Phantom and see what their relationship with Team Phantom would be in the series ranging from: ally, neutral, and enemy. Now, it’s time for the enemys, enjoy. Allies here and neutrals here!

P.S. Sorry this took so long to due, real life comes before making headcanons. Enjoy!

Warning : Some character explanations will be super long, mentions of death, and other things rated PG-13.

Enemies:

Skulker - He was one of Team Phantom's first villains and was obsessed with hunting Danny for his pelt (GROSS!) and for being a Halfa. Skulker obviously doesn't care about who or what he hunts especially if a child or an endangered animal is his target. Once it's revealed that Danny isn't the only Halfa around (Not just Vlad and Dani) I can see him giving Danny 'the reason you suck speech' about how Danny is no longer special or worth his time hunting, which is a relief for Danny, but they'll still fight each other. Skulker may over time have a villian's respect towards Danny and Team Phantom, but will never admit it. I have a theory that the only reason he never hunted Vlad is because Vlad bribed him with endless weapons if Skulker never hunts him and Vlad pays Skulker to hunt things for him. On the scale of villiany in the show Skulker is #4 seeing as he hunts for sport and how he has been dangerously close to killing Danny and others.

Nicolai Technus - As much as Technus is a mad scientist type guy, he didn't really have the drive to be evil until Danny planted the idea. Once the idea came to mind Technus went through without hesitation, he could've changed his mind anytime. He defiantly embraced his villainous role by manipulating Danny and Valerie's emotions to like each other knowing that Valerie likes Danny Fenton and hates Danny Phantom (a bold move, I must admit). Ans in the bad timeline he teamed up with Skulker forming an even bigger baddie. So, yeah, he's an enemy.

Walker - For a guy who's a warden and expects everyone to follow the rules he's a hypocrite. He makes his own rules for others to follow, kidnap children, putting that shock collar on Wulf and almost putting it on Sam, and framed Danny and made him public enemy number one in his own town! If the series continued like a court episode revealing that it was Walker who attacked the ex-mayor and his police ghost possessed many citizens. Thus, clearing Danny's name and some high council in the Ghost Zone (not the Observants one, but like a lower division council that handles the different ghost jails and domains) remove Walker from his position as a warden and he is a prisoner of his own jail. He'll obviously blame Danny and Team Phantom and wants revenge.

Penelope Spectra & Bertrand- Oh my gosh, where do I begin with her? After the trauma she caused during her first episode she's #3 on my DP deadliest villains chart. Before she even set foot in Caper High, Spectra has gone through many different schools sucking the students' of their misery/energy to make herself and Bertrand stay young by lying and humiliating them, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if those poor kids ended up committing suicide because of her. Heck, she tried to kill the students of Casper High in 'Doctor's Disorder' and Jazz during the pep rally in front of everyone to create more misery. She made Danny utterly miserable, tried to turn Danny against Jazz, and tried to vaporize Jazz, and made Danny question himself as a Halfa by calling him a freak. As for Bertrand he's basically her lap dog and has no problems resulting in killing to get what he and his boss want. I think we all can agree that these two need to stay away from everyone, but mostly children.

The Guys in White - Let's face it: Amity Park hates these guys! Every episode that they're threatening citizens and ghost. They seem to have no problem with collateral damage seeing how that tried to kill Gregor/Elliot thinking he was the ghost boy and destroyed the observation station. Unlike the Fenton's who'll pay for the damages they caused, the Guys in White refuse to pay a penny and use the excuse that they work for the government. The worst thing they ever committed was them trying to blow up the Ghost Zone which would destroy our world too. Overtime they'll waste too much money on ghost catching equipment and the citizens of Amity Park will get sick of them causing the organization to disband. With only Agents K, O, and the leader guy still around trying to capture Danny or any other ghost.

The Other Ghost Hunters - After, their encounter with Danny Phantom they most likely felt humiliated, and it only fueled their hatred towards ghost. But seeing how popular Danny Phantom is in Amity Park doing anything against him is a big no-no. So I can see them waiting for Danny to screw-up so they can catch him.

Control Freak and Lydia - Seeing as Team Phantom have ruined his circus and plan to take over the world it's a given that he's an enemy. He probably spent years going to every town with his circus stealing from banks, museums, and jewelry stores only to be stopped by a couple of teens would make anybody vengeful. I doubt he remembers that Phantom and Fenton are the same person after Danny erased everyone's memory, but he does remember the events. Seeing as Lydia and Control Freak are a couple she seems cool with whatever evil scheme he comes up with. I believe the two were dating before her death.

Prince Aragon - Let's see arrogant, was willing to marry a child (I'm aware that was a practice back then, but today absolutely not!), kept his kingdom imprisoned in time for hundreds of years, and was abusive towards his sister. I see him having more of a vendetta over Dora and Sam than Danny.

Hotep Ra - Was a backstabbing advisor who tried to takeover world.

Vortex , Undergrowth, Nocturn - All three are powerful elemental: weather (Vortex), earth (Undergrowth), and dreams (Nocturn) that connect not just the human world but the ghost world as well. In each of their appearance all three were able to takeout Amity Park in a short amount of time and gave Team Phantom a run for their money, until they learned a new skill to defeat them. Seeing how the Observants had Vortex on trial it's obvious he is super powerful! I wish there was a special episode where all three combined like Skulltech 9.9 to see what kind of damage they could do.

Pariah Dark - Guy was a tyrant king who ruled with an iron fist and was so powerful that a group of ancient ghosts had to imprison him in the Sarcophagus of Forever Sleep to stop his reign of terror. He doesn't care if you're human, ghost, or halfa in his eyes he's above all. The guy transported Amity Park into the Ghost Zone and lead an army that could've destroy everyone and the world! Heck, Skulker didn't want to confront him, SKULKER, that really says something! Hopefully, no one will be stupid enough to wake him up again.

Dan Phantom/ Dark Danny - He has no humanity in him, destroyed most of Amity Park (and most of the world), committed two thousand evil deeds, and even tried to kill his family and friends. Dan Phantom has no redeeming qualities and seeing how the observants couldn't take him out without Clockworks assistance shows how powerful he is. Inever believed Danny's ghost side was bad; Danny is Danny whether he's Phantom of Fenton. I believe the guilt and stress of losing everyone he loved and the fusion with Vlad was what form Dan Phantom. Heck! If it were reversed and Danny killed his ghost half, he would've been Dan Fenton human serial killer. For everyone's sake he needs to stay in the Fenton Thermos forever!

Master's Blasters - Okay, we all know season three and the last episode were to put it lightly -something. But I have to ask: where did Vlad find these guys? I mean honestly, a trio of ghost hunters pop out of nowhere, are better hunters than Valerie and Danny, the second they arrive Amity Park just eats them up and are willing to pay for being saved despite how they feel about the GIW, seriously? If it weren't for the cancelation, I would've built them up that Vlad staged their hunting/ rescues to make them look better than Phantom. As Danny slowly doubts himself as a hero the Master Blasters start charging for the rescues. At this point of time Phantom and Red huntress are nowhere to be found so the citizens of Amity Park have no choice, but to pay. Skip forward to the ending (minus Danny and Vlad revealed to be halfas) where the Fentons, Phantom, and Red Huntress team up to protect Amity Park from both ghost and human threats it's revealed that Master's Blasters aren't as good as they appeared without Vlad's trickery. They most like vow revenge on Team Phantom and try to outdo them only to fall flat.

Vlad Masters/ Plasmius - Where to begin with, Vlad? Oh, wait, I know! Vlad had this whole scheme to keep Maddie to himself, make Danny and Jazz see him as their father, created clones to make a new family, take over Amity Park, and tried to kill/humiliate Jack on a number of occasions. Even in the alternate timeline when he finally marries Maddie he is crazy controlling of her. He's doomed Amity Park/ the world numerous times for power, attempted to kill Danny, Jazz, Sam, Tucker, and Dani who are children (would've killed Valerie too if he knew about her finding out his secret), has tried to discredit Danny, taken over Amity Park via cheating, used his ghost powers to gain his wealthy, the list goes on. Vlad does seem to have some regret which is something most of the villains of the show don't seem to grasp. His older self in 'The Ultimate Enemy' realized the error of his ways and helped Danny return to his timeline (Vlad did state that he could've killed Danny instead but choose to do the right thing). And judging from the end of 'Phantom Planet' and the cover of the book ' A Glitch in Time' he seemed remorseful. He's done many things that have endangered both ghost and human life just to mess with Team Phantom, only time can tell if he deserves redemption.

[kahran042]

Even more incorrect Jonas Corbin's Guide to Life quotes!

John: I don't understand why Mark is acting so distant. Justin: You've lost him, Dad. Time to focus on your good son- Chloe! (Source: Bob's Burgers)

Richard: Alcohol doesn't solve problems, Jonas. It just makes them go away. (Source: Bob's Burgers)

Jonas: Where did you get this?! Nate: From your computer. Jonas: You hacked into my personal files?! How did you get the password?! Nate, Brad, and Chloe (deadpan): It’s “Kiera Corbin”. (Source: Danny Phantom)

Mark: Aren’t you sweating, Connor? Connor: Regular people sweat. Goths, we simmer. Mark: sniffs I think you’re overcooked. (Source: Danny Phantom)

Nick: You're toast! Jonas: Oh yeah?! You and what toaster?! (Source: Danny Phantom)

Kyle: Oh, no, you did not just call me shallow, did you? Thom: If you mean, do I think I could stand in a puddle full of you and not get my feet wet, then yeah. (Source: Danny Phantom)

Monica: First impressions are very important. Richard: But you married me anyway. (Source: Danny Phantom)

Chloe (grossed out): Raisins? Alicia: Raisins are nature’s candy! Chloe: Then why do they have to cover them with chocolate to sell them at the movies? (Source: Daria)

Morgan: Mom, Dad, I really like Sarah. Kathleen: Why not, dear? Sarah's a very nice girl. Morgan: No, Mom. I mean I really like Sarah. Robert: We heard you the first time, Morgan. You have a homosexual attraction to Sarah. (Source: Family Guy)

Jasmine: No wonder you have no friends. Zane: I have friends! Jasmine: Oh yeah? Name one. Zane: You. Jasmine: That's right. And I'm YOUR. LITTLE. SISTER. (Source: Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends)

Nate: A freshman stepped on my glasses… and I was still wearing them. (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Principal Mazlish: Are you attempting to leave the school grounds without permission, Mr. Seaver? Mark: Are you attempting to dance the flamenco, Principal Mazlish? Principal Mazlish: This moment never happened. Mark: Gotcha. (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Nick: Wait! We can't quit! All for one, one for all. No retreat, no surrender! Jared: When in doubt, chicken out. (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Donna: Hey, where are you going? Jonas: To take a long, hard look at my life. Donna: Well, while you're there, would you pick up a quart of milk? (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Chloe does something nice for Connor Kiera: That’s a pretty amazing thing to do for someone you claim you hate! Chloe: Yeah? Well, I’m a pretty amazing person! (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Connor: Why do you always look on the bright side? Morgan: Well, somebody has to. (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Sarah: But Jared, we already know our lines. Jared: Lines? Of course you know your lines! But I don't want to just hear your lines… I want to feel what's in your SOULS! (Source: Hey Arnold!)

Kathleen: I raised a perfectly functional son. Valerie: You have a son I don’t know about? (Source: Modern Family)

Mark: Welcome to my talk about how not to be seen. Behind two of these gravestones are Nick and Jared. Nick, Jared, would you two stand up, please? Nick and Jared: stand up Mark, immediately punching them: This demonstrates the importance of not being seen. (Source: Monty Python)

Kyle: Little boy! Chloe: Girl. Kyle: Girl, sorry. Who lives over there? Chloe: I'm 15. Kyle: What? Chloe: I'm 15. I'm not "little". Kyle: Well, I can't just call you "girl". Chloe: Well, you could say "Chloe". Kyle: I didn't know you were called Chloe. Chloe: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? (Source: Monty Python)

Jonas: Laziness is the mother of all bad habits, but ultimately she is a mother and we should respect her. (Source: Naruto)

Chloe: Life's as EXTREME as you wanna MAKE IT! (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Connor: putting on his makeup You can’t rush perfection. Morgan: I’m not rushing perfection, I’m rushing you. (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Mark: Could you not stand so close? You're making me claustrophobic. Nick: What does 'claustrophobic' mean? Jared: It means he's afraid of Santa Claus! Mark: …No, it doesn't. Nick: Ho ho ho! Jared: Stop it, you're scaring him! (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Jared: If you had to choose between Sarah and all the money I have in my wallet, which would you pick? Zane: That depends. How much money are we talking here? Sarah: Zane! Jared: 62 cents. Zane: I’ll take the money. Sarah: ZANE! (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Adrian (singing): The best time to wear a gray hoodie is all the tiiiiiiiime. (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Chloe: Too bad Connor isn't here to enjoy Connor not being here. (Source: Spongebob Squarepants)

Kiera: Chloe… you’re reading them in order, right? Chloe: There’s an order!? Aw, man, I just started with the one with the coolest cover! (Source: Steven Universe)

Nick: We found a phone! Mark: Whose phone is it? Jared: Not important. (Source: Steven Universe)

The core six are drawing portraits of each other for an art class Brad: (revealing a bad doodle of Nate) I think I made one eye bigger than the other… Nate: (revealing an abstract drawing of Chloe) I was going for more of a feeling. Chloe: (revealing a gorgeous painting of Jonas) Honestly, I can’t even draw a circle… Kiera: (revealing a picture of herself) Jonas: Okay, Kiera, you just drew yourself… Kiera: I like me. (Source: Steven Universe)

Mark: I wish my cohorts weren't so dumb. Jared: I'm not the dumb one! Nick: You're no fun! (Source: The Nightmare Before Christmas)

Mark: I don't need a reason to beat the crap out of anyone who pisses me off. (Source: Xenogears)

Connor: Hey, Adrian, maybe we should play Magic: The Gathering sometime. Adrian: No thanks, I'd have more difficulty playing solitaire. (Source: Yu-Gi-Oh!)

Kiera: You are so irritating sometimes. Jonas: Wanna go make out? Kiera: Yes. (Source: Zoey 101)

Jonas: I'm so sad Chloe isn't with us. She's my best friend. Brad: What about me? Jonas: You're my worst friend. (Source: Zoey 101)

Brad: I have to say, I'm a little embarrassed for you. Nate: This is a sports-related injury! That makes me cool! Brad: Tripping over a basketball on your way to the bathroom is not cool! (Source: Zoey 101)

Chloe: "Connor"? Sounds like a creep. Kiera: You can't judge someone based on their name. Chloe: Sure you can. "Chloe." Cool name. Cool girl. gestures to Alicia "Alicia"… I rest my case. (Source: Zoey 101)

Kiera: You can't solve your problems with sad clarinet music. Morgan: I can try! (Source: Zoey 101)

Morgan: You know what would be good? Kiera: Hooking up with your brother. Morgan: What? Kiera: What? (Source: Zoey 101)

Chloe (reading a magazine): Your best friend took your favorite lip gloss without asking. Do you a) get a new best friend, b) push her down a flight of stairs. Kiera: It does not say that. Chloe: I know, but I feel that it should definitely be an option. (Source: Zoey 101)

Jonas: It wasn't your fault, Kiera. It was just a freak accident. Morgan: Yeah, like Connor's birth. (Source: Zoey 101)

Lauren: You play any sports? Jessica: Does shopping count as a sport? (Source: Zoey 101)

Alicia: I'm not good at talking to guys… Chloe: It’s easy. It’s just like talking to girls, but you have to use smaller words. (Source: Zoey 101)

Brad: Kiera would never date a jerk like you. Jonas: I'm one of your best friends! Brad: Which is how I know you're a jerk. (Source: Zoey 101)

Kiera: If you had to separate your cat from 49 other identical cats that were all equally excited to see you, how would you determine which cat was yours? Karin: I would take my 50 cats home and live like a queen. (Source: Tumblr)

Samantha: I don't want to go to McDonald's. Jonas: Well, McDonald's wouldn't want you, because you're a brat. (Source: YouTube)

Jonas: Are you a boy or a girl? Connor: I’m beautiful. Jonas: What gender are you? Connor: Sexy. Jonas: Yeah, but what’s in your pants? Connor: Magic. (Source: Unknown)

Kiera: We're a family. Families talk about things. Deborah: No, we ignore things until they go away. Adrian: She's right about that one. (Source: Unknown)

Morgan (to Kiera): We started chanting ‘McDonald's, McDonald's!’ and Connor pulled into the drive thru, and we started cheering, and then he ordered a black coffee for himself and continued driving. It was very disappointing. (Source: Unknown)

[stealingyourbones]

Wait wait wait I've been reading up on lantern lore and I want to submit an ask loosely based on some I already saw here:

Val being a red lantern anti-hero, doing bad things but ultimately helping her friends/the justice league similar to red hood, Jazz being green and maybe becoming apprentice to hal(?) or some of the other green lanterns bc she is still in college.

She and Val constantly team up and the red + green lantern is hella interesting to say the least from the pov of ppl that don't know who they are. Maybe Val turns her rage to the GIW and the other villains hurting her friends? Anyways, basically they both get their rings at roughly the same time, and keep their identities secret from everyone else besides each other, even from team phantom.

A few years down the line, with jazz almost finished with her masters, danny (or someone else from team phantom, dani or tuck? I don't see Sam really working out for this, but maybe it's just me zjzbzhznzj) gets the blue ring, which is basically the op ring of hope whose only weakness is that it needs a green nearby as a sort of symbiotic "I help you, you help me" relationship. So now you have op ghost boy/king danny with a blue ring that he doesnt even need, and since he's always around jazz whose green, when he DOES use his ring he becomes even MORE op.

This could work too for the human members since team phantom is basically family at this point. Just these 3 ppl who've known each other since high school, maybe childhood teaming up with each other and just causing so much shenanigans since 1) red lanterns are supposed to be evil 2) blues are supposed to be rare 3) the fact that this blue/green duo seem to go way back and are practically attached at the hip 4) the red+green+blue lantern combo (Powerpuff girls reference? Except the red is the angry one and there is a dude depending on who's blue) and the optional 5th) what the fuck is THE ghost king doing with a BLUE lantern ring??? Wdym he was chosen???? His sister is the newest green lantern??????

This is SO GOOD dude.

This trio just fucks with the entirety of the normal accepted norms of the power rings. The idea that Danny just pops on over to help Jazz and is an OP as fuck duo is incredible.

They could absolutely use these stereotypes to their advantage as well. Valerie using her fear and intimidation to get people to respect and let them entry into places they normally wouldn’t have access to. Jazz using her “I’m the green lantern of this sector” and Danny doing a “yeah and what the fuck are you gonna do about it?”.

These three strike fear in the hearts of every lantern.

[redrobin-detective]

Here’s a fun little scenario that would be part of a larger story I don’t have the time/energy to write.

Something something, the ghosts need to work together with the humans to stop a larger threat. They meet at Fentonworks to form a plan of attack with the humans’ most knowledgeable about ghosts. It is not Jack and Maddie Fenton. However, Danny Fenton and co do not feel like disclosing the fact that they are Amity’s foremost ghost experts. So the ghosts find themselves in an awkward position of having to pretend to be seeking council from the adult Fentons while watching Danny pretend to hide in his mother’s side in fear. But though his posture is scared and submissive, his eyes are glowing with promise of a violent second death if they don’t play along. Cue shenanigans. Fun points of interest include:

- Danny and the ghosts’ frustration and disbelief as the Fentons or even Valerie get ghost stuff so completely wrong and Danny is literally biting his hand to stop himself from correcting them because he’s not supposed to know anything about ghosts. They look at him with weary annoyance, asking why he is making them submit to this and he just stares back equally annoyed and exhausted. 

- The ghosts and Team Phantom need to do their planning in secret so they steal snatches of time here and there with hilarious results. Danny quickly phasing him and Technus into the bathroom for a quick huddle only to be interrupted by Jack trying to get in or quickly miming ideas and plans when people’s heads are turned then pretending to play on his phone when they look his way (his phone is upside down, no one comments. Fenton is just weird like that). They barely get any time to plan without interruption.

- It gets to the point where nothing is getting done and Danny is forced to kind of intercede but in a casual manner. Making pointed comments to have people piece things together themselves, tripping over important inventions to bring them to people’s attention just... pretending to accidentally acquire knowledge and delicately (and sometimes forcefully) leading them to the correct conclusions.

- I bet there would be some interesting conversations btw the ghosts and Danny about why he does hide. Why does he hide his strength and knowledge? They know by now that Danny is protective of hell of his secret identity but ghosts simply cannot understand why one of the strongest warriors hides behind the façade of weakness. Sometimes Danny himself wants to give up the charade bc the whole thing is too damn confusing and exhausting.

- Danny is not used to his worlds colliding in such an ongoing, intimate setting (lets say both ghosts and humans are essentially trapped together) so his personality is constantly flipping btw Fenton and Phantom’s trying to keep up. Dash is confused watching Fenton growl at ghosts while the ghosts are wondering why such a powerful halfa lets the other humans push him around. It makes both human and ghosts realize they don’t much at all about Danny Fenton.

- A lot of ghosts’ knowledge of humans comes from Danny, Sam and Tucker who are, obviously, outliers. In order to play nice with the ghost kid, they try to engage with some humans and are so far from the mark. (For example just kind of assuming all human kids engage in reckless, world changing activities).

- Also the ghosts know Danny and generally have a lot of respect for his power and sense of duty to his haunt. They treat other humans the same, as annoying interchangeable non-entities almost but for some reason, Danny Fenton is given a weird amount of respect being referred to by name and, when he speaks, all the other ghosts stop and listen. Normal people have no idea what to make of this.

- Again, I simply cannot get over the image of Danny doing his best to cower with his back to the humans but while facing the ghosts his face is a snarling, threatening mess. Both sides treat him as they normally do and find themselves coming up short. The humans wonder why the ghosts look at skinny, useless Fenton like he’s important. The ghosts wonder how the humans look at him and don’t see something dangerous. 

[thesoulspulse]

Danny Phantom Randomness (Sam & Danny’s Kiss Count)

Say what you will about Danny’s love-life or lack thereof, but his parents raised him right because he’s very respectful and doesn’t try to kiss a girl before it seems appropriate in most cases. I gotta respect him for that. Plus, it’s adorable that Danny’s such a romantic at heart...

Sure he has his Fakeout Makeout trick we see in “Memory Blank,” but something tells me Danny’s only ever done that with Sam which would technically make that both of their first kisses.

The two of them did it again in “Shades of Gray” too, I think this was the 3rd Fakeout Makeout?

Sam’s second Fakeout Makeout is with Dash in “Fanning the Flames.”

To be fair, Tucker’s the one who accidentally kissed Sam in “Life Lessons” since he was caught up in the moment, however it’s technically still a full on kiss.

Then there’s the whole Gregor/Elliot thing in “Double Cross my Heart.” Ugh, this one bugs me so much because while a part of me gets where Sam’s coming from since it’s flattering when someone likes you when you’re not used to getting that kind of attention, I said this once before but I honestly believe the ONLY real reason Sam was into him is because of the white hair and the black and white outfit since she was projecting her not-so-secret feelings for Danny onto Gregor/Elliot. He might have kissed her first, but Sam kissed him back pretty intensely.

Apart from Sam though, Danny hasn’t actually kissed ANY other girl. Well, ok he tried to a few times but even then, he waited until he knew it was something they both wanted to do like when Paulina/Kitty is the one who said, “If you like me, kiss me.” I think she also kissed him on the cheek while they were in the bowling alley too to motivate him to win.

The real Paulina does peck Danny on the cheek later when she realizes he’s Phantom though in “Reality Trip” but he’s clearly taken aback at first then pleasantly surprised.

Then there’s Valerie, even when Technus was pushing her and Danny together he never tried to kiss her first. Again, Valerie pecked him on the cheek to show affection and regret that she couldn’t keep dating him later on and it seriously breaks my heart since I prefer their relationship over the canon one since it felt more genuine. That’s just me though.

And finally, there’s the final two kiss scenes in “The Episode That Shall Not Be Named,” aka PP, where Sam does kiss Danny on the cheek before he heads into the Ghost Zone to round up ghosts to help save the world, and then he kissed her for real but...it doesn’t FEEL real apart from how gentle he is about it. I mean, just look at the difference in body language! He’s such a sweetheart and it reminds me all over again why we all probably had a crush on him back in the day.

I probably should have saved this for next Valintine’s Day or something but eh, that’s what these random posts are. Random ideas that pop into my head that I try to share before I forget or something I’ve been thinking for a while and never wrote down. So anyways my point is, Danny’s a real gentleman and Sam is very spirited I guess is a good word for it.

Total Times Danny Kissed Sam: 3

The original Fakeout Makeout in front of the Fenton Ghost Portal, I’m counting the one with didn’t see as the “Memory Blank” version.

Before going into the Ghost Zone in the Finale after she kisses him on the cheek.

At the very end of the Finale

Total Times Sam Kissed Danny: 3

Fakeout Makout to escape from Valerie the first time she hunts Danny

Kisses Danny on the cheek before he kisses her on the lips.

At the very end of the Finale.

Total Times Someone Else Kissed Danny: 4

Kitty kisses Danny on the cheek in the bowling alley while possessing Paulina.

Paulina kisses Danny on the cheek when she finds out he’s Danny Phantom in “Reality Trip.”

Valerie kisses Danny on the cheek after friend-zoning the poor guy.

Total Times Someone Else Kissed Sam: 1

Tucker when he gets caught up in pretending to be a parent for their class project.

Gregor/Elliot kisses Sam outside of the Amity Park Mall in the parking lot.

Total Times Sam Kissed Someone Else: 2

Sam does a Fakeout Makout with Dash to snap Danny out of Ember’s spell at least enough to get him to actually go fight Ember.

Sam kisses Gregor/Elliot back behind the Amity Park Mall.

[tachvintlogic]

Whats ur take on Walker and Wulf?

Well, the first thing to note about Walker is that to me, he's an asshole with stick up his ass.

Walker acts like he's a warden, judge, police officer and prosecutor all in one keeping order in the territory of the Ghost Zone that he controls, but he's a bit more like the mob (or like the regular police when they're being more transparent about being a mob funded by the local government). Whether he was part of the mob or actually a warden isn't too important, though I do like him being part of the mob as an enforcer of some kind with Bullet as his partner.

Fortunately, Walker isn't the end all be all of law and order in the afterlife, as in my headcanon he controls only a small part of the Chaotic Regions, which are a small part of the Earth band of the afterlife. His territory is only as big as the area he can enforce his rules. Unfortunately, the portal happens to be in Walker's territory.

I'm fond of him being related to Danny and having Walker be Maddie's maiden name. I imagine that if Walker found that about their relation, his attitude would flip on a dime because of course he can make an exception for family! It's family after all!

This is because Walker, deep down, is a hypocrite and doesn't care if his rules are fair or if they're enforced fairly.

This puts Walker in a very good position to become an ally. As an ally, he would prevent unauthorized trips by ghosts to Amity and jail ghosts who cause problems in Amity so they don't come back immediately.

However, Danny has 0 trust in Walker and for good reason. Walker wants to see his granddaughter but that's not going to go well as long as Maddie has an anti-ghost bias. So, Walker needs to help Danny, Valerie and the rest of Team Phantom curb the damage done by ghosts so that the public opinion of ghosts goes up.

This requires Walker to actually make fair rules that are enforced fairly, so that the troublemakers in the rogues gallery actually respect his rules and feel like they've done something bad when they break them. Whereas before, they didn't respect him and saw him as a ghost with a jailing obsession and jailed ghosts for dumb and arbitrary reasons.

In the end, Maddie is very happy to see her grandfather again and property damage done by sentient ghosts has decreased significantly. Danny's still not 100% on board with Walker being family, but he's accept it now that he's not the worst.

Wulf is interesting. He's a real turning point because he's one of the first ghosts that Danny meets that isn't bad (though he did meet the Dairy King, that interaction was very brief). Danny misjudged him at first, but then realized he was good once he learned how to communicate with him. This could be a real turning point where Danny realizes that not all ghosts are bad, and maybe he's misjudged some of the ghosts in his rogues gallery thanks to inheriting some of his parents' bias.

As for his powers, being able to tear through dimensions has lots of interesting implications. Do any other ghosts have this power? Are those ghosts hanging out somewhere other than Amity Park? Are there other ghost hotspots in the world? Why does he have this power? In a hypothetica reboot l, I'm not sure I would want him to keep it because I'd rather the ghosts be isolated to just this town and that ability might be a little overpowered.

When it comes to his relationship with Walker, at least initially, I want the reason Wulf is in prison to be really petty to the point where even Bullet and Walker's minions can agree it's a little silly. Wulf needs to be unambiguously good as Danny's first example of a good ghost that hasn't wanted to do bad.

Once Wulf is free, he's not going to want to have anything to do with Walker because he assumes Walker's going to try and imprison him the next time they meet. After a redemption arc, they'd just side-eye each other when they're in the first room. I think it'd take a long time before Walker would try to apologize, and it would long after he got to reunite with Maddie, years even.

I personally see Wulf as a good companion for Dani/Elle. She wants to travel the world, but as a half-ghost, she still needs access to the Ghost Zone and ectoplasm to remain healthy. Wulf would be a great caretaker who could provide her with that while she's not in Amity, as well as bring her back quickly should her body show signs of destabilizing. I think them being a father-daughter pair would be cute.

[juniaships]

My Issues With Sam Manson

Or, please stop simplifying legitimate criticisms we have with this girl.

Lately I've also been seeing these same points talking about how the phandom dislikes Sam for the crime of being a teenage girl. There are legitimate problems with her character and the harmful message she spread. Frankly put I'm so sick & tired of seeing our complaints be reduced to "you only hate her because she's a woman!!"

We don't dislike Sam because she's a teenage girl (anyone who do has serious issues to work out) but because the narrative excuses her flaws and bad attitude.

What I mean by that is, she has flaws, which is perfectly fine, but rarely faces detriments for them and even gets rewarded. She got no chances of growing, in fact with each season she got worse. The writers wanted to put her on a pedestal at the cost of other female characters. ESPECIALLY nonwhite girls.

The writers do not develop her beyond confirming her endgame with Danny. She never learned to open her mind or being respectful of other girls' interests. Despite some episodes that COULD have had her views challenged & she grows from them. She never learned to temper her hypocrisy. Sam never made up with her parents - we don't even see their side of the story - her character remained the same. She ended up rewarded with a guy she called selfish and boring because he gave up his powers - to protect her & his own family. The overfocus of such romantic subplot came at the cost of literally every other girl in the series. They were put down to reinforce "Sam is Right." Heck Danny himself was dumbed down a bit to make Sam a well of wisdom.

In Girls Night Out she talked down to Jazz as if implying the latter didn't know how to handle ghosts. In her very first episode she changed the school lunch menu to food only SHE would eat without any consultation or mindfulness of allergies for that matter. In Phantom Planet she barely contributed beyond screeching at Danny for being just another boring human which only gives weight to the sentiment that she only loved him for his powers (ergo uniqueness). She was never made to held the same level as the male characters. In Fact half the time she had to get involved is a problem she started first. Sam fell in love with a guy because he looked similar to Danny's Ghost Form (again only adding more weight to the "she only loved him for his powers" argument).

Especially at the cost of characters like Valerie and Paulina. Valerie's arc never got completed because at that point the writers wanted to get the cogs going for Amethyst Ocean as quickly as possible. The last we see of her is standing in the background clapping and cheering. No resolution for her and Danny. She didn't even contribute in her Huntress Form. Valerie was a crucial part in the first two season of the show. She was relatable and sympathetic, she had challenges to overcome. Her flaws weren't excused and she had to LEARN and grow from a stuck up brat to a vengeful hunter to an understanding anti heroine. We were so close to seeing her arc get closure. Heck Valerie even gave up Danny because she wanted to protect him for her own secret life as a ghost hunter. Her chemistry with Danielle was also would've done wonders with her arc. But in S3 it was forgotten, she was forgotten, all to push the Sam as endgame. Weird considering she spied on Danny & Valerie out of envy when they went on their date. Then she had the nerve to call out Danny for spying on her & Gregor when the only reason did so to protect her form being targeted by an evil ghost or the Guys in White. Sam didn't even feel compassion for Val when her dad lost his job and she ended uo living in horrible conditions abandoned by fake friends. And Sam's supposed to be the nice one??

Paulina at least got comeuppance for her crappy behavior but again she was demonized as worse than Sam because of her femininity. You could say she and Sam were foils (which they are) but Paulina was written to be worse than she actually was while Sam did truly selfish things and never truly addressed.

The Beauty Pageant episode....boy that was a DOOZY of a plot. She willingly joined a pageant to complain about high beauty standards and shallow girls, when literally NONE of the other models pressured her into joining or bullied her. She even WON yet had the audacity to throw the trophy on the ground in an extremely unsportsmanlike act. The narrative supports her action despite her clearly being in the wrong.

Her having flaws in of itself is not the problem but, the way the show HANDLES her flaws as if they're strengths to be emulated. Yes you could say that Sam herself was wasted potential. Then again she was Butch's intended pet character and the main love interest so of course she had to be Perfect! She should've had a meaningful arc but no. She's still that same obnoxious excuse for a Strong Female Character that the show forces us to sympathise with.

This isn't me saying you should start hating Sam. This is me saying please take the time to read our legitimate complaints before strawmanning us. Sam reinforces the tired Not Like Other Girls Trope, the two biggest victims being WOC, and the show treats this as a good thing. It is not a good thing, seeing interesting female characters esp. Woc be put down to put a very poorly written character on a pedestal.

[sanchoyo]

danny phantom 14-20 thoughts!! I finished up s1 :D these last few eps were actually really really good!!!

-did. did tucker really just say esperanto was a dead language only spoken as a secret code between geeks. google says around 100,000 people actively speak it. oh my god...it being an auxiliary language doesn't mean its 'just for geeks to speak in code' ...it helps bridge gaps between people who don't have a language in common...

-danny really isn't pulling punches when it comes to fighting the ghost-cop possessed people huh. like he SLAMMED KWAN INTO THE CONCRETE SO HARD. HE THREW PAULINA INTO A BILLBOARD. will that...I mean it WOULD carry over to their bodies non-possessed, right? like if the ghost piloting their bodies gets hurt?? itd be so upsetting to be possessed, lose time, then wake up covered in bruises (and possibly, broken bones??) real horror movie stuff im sure wont be addressed in any way

-tuckers parents seem nice! I like them :)

-WULF IS CUTE AND I FEEL BAD. im so glad the gang realized he was only causing trouble bc of the shock collar walker put on him and helped. also, him wearing that big hoodie with the hood on, and thinking its subtle. we can tell youre still a giant wolfie :) THEN GETTING SUCKED INTO THE PORTAL AAAAH :( anxiously waiting to see Him Again....

-DANNY BLASTING HIS PARENTS THINKING THEY WERE OVERSHADOWED LMFAO GET THEIR ASSES. maddie marking how many ghosts she gets with lipstick tallies on the side of her portal gun? kindaaa iconic tho. (ALSO, SHE WAS LIKE, 2 FT AWAY FROM HIM RIGHT AFTER SHE TRIED TO SHOOT HIM. HOW DO YOU NOT RECONINZE YOUR OWN SON??? like sure, he might have diff hair/eye colors. but like, if one of my family members dyed their hair, and was wearing contacts, its not like id be like 'wHO IS THIS STRANGER!!!' ...he still has all his facial features!! same everything!!! I hate it here)

-paulina being #1 girl realizing danny's a friendly ghost immediately. smart queen. lancer and kwan ran away right after he made this sweet baby face at them:

which is hilarious.

-ok. im not saying his bullying is JUSTIFIED, but. dash looked so pleased with the (cute!) poster he just painted, and danny comes thru the wall and spills paint on his nice letterman jacket. his anger is justified maybe 65% of the time so far...(not the way he handles it, but STILL.) at least lancer is stepping in!! and them making a silly little bet was...cute?? until dash pulled out his GROSS UNDERWEAR AND SAID DANNY WOULD HAVE TO EAT THEM???? WHAT THE FUCK MAN. TUCKER WAS SO RIGHT ITS FUCKING WEIRD TO CARRY THOSE AROUND EWWW. THIS KID IS UNWELL. lancer was right, his animatronic setup was SUPER IMPRESSIVE?? hes actually pretty creative. danny meanwhile is stealing the fright knight's design...I hope dash is taking art classes or smth with his sports

-fright knight is the most bestest ghost so far i LOVE THAT DESIGN. I am biased towards knights, and characters with swords, but he fucks so severely. and should sue danny for copyright infringement for stealing his design for his haunted house. if some 14 yr old broke into MY house and stole MY sword, id also be pissed. his evil winged unicorn rules too with its FANGS. and he just CAN SHOVE THE PORTAL OPEN WITH HIS HANDS??? is he the strongest ghost weve seen so far? idk but hes my fav. SOUL SHREDDER IS SUCH A COOL SWORD NAME TOO. ANY NAMED SWORD ALSO FUCKS. 'flaming bedsheets of DEATH' funny king. ALSO he was polite to dash and tucker when just asking for directions and telling tucker 'oh maybe, just a suggestion, maybe be nicer to me and be more respectful :)' I LOOOVE HIM.

-I noticed this in the Ember ep, but jazz has an electric guitar in her room!! talent musical queen!! its cool to see hobbies just in the bg.

-fright knight's murder castle reminds me of the booby trapped murder castle in zexal!! another supposedly 'for kids' show with murder/trap castles! we love that. if you are a dp fan reading this, give yugioh zexal a try. its also got 13-14 year old protags and involves (alien) ghosts. the cardgame is just a vessel for the plot, which is really good. (I just want more people to watch my fav yugioh, man)

-danny. with a SWORD.

-danny doesnt NEED TO WIN this contest, dash didnt STEAL HIS DESIGNS AND STEAL A SWORD. he also got excited to hear lancer got sent to a dimension with his worst fears too just so he could win the contest? DANNY WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! BRO MAYBE YOURE 14 AND HAVENT FULLY DEVOLPED YOUR WHOLE BRAIN YET, BUT...THATS FUCKED. this kid casually says the most deranged things, I do worry for my spooky son. once again, therapy needed. that judo toss was great tho. I wonder if he actually did pick up some martial arts stuff from his mom?

-danny can fly 112 mph!!! thats so fast! I love the lil montage of him and his friends testing his abilities and stuff, very cute and a good way to showcase what he can do by now and how much more proficient he's gotten from ep 1!!! I'm sure he's going to get more abilities :)

-im glad...maddie's at least TRYING this ep. I do feel for her because her husband is a man baby. but the fact it took 16 episodes to get a kinda semblance of any kind of real concern or attempts at bonding. hmm. jack's 'BACK OFF SHES A MINOR' @ the ghost trying to attack jazz. also was very funny. and him wanting to make an action figure of her? are the parents redeeming themselves to me? slightly. they gotta Work Harder

-THE GHOST. IS FLYING. THE PLANE.

-fenton machete. but she doesnt carry a PHONE??? ???

-I mean I expected vlad when you namedrop him earlier in the ep, and also the title card picture, and dalv corp being fucking vlad backwards. but seeing him just pull up on a golf cart made me bust out laughing. WITH the gift baskets prepared. why wouldnt you at least be suspicious. also, if he wants danny to be his lil sonboy, why is he so fucking malicious?? dude you are going about this in such a bad way. stop it. get some help.

-maddie not even hesitating to drag danny out. fucking good. danny is so right, go on the internet to date. get a cat. how do you spend...how many years?? has it been since college?? at least 20, right, since the parents/vlad are in their 40s? hung up on ONE girl. my god, man. incel drama queen. her kung fu IS impressive, but dude. 'we both know hes a creep' SO right. it sucks but they do need a phone and shit being in the middle of NOWHERE. also, just stealing his helicopter was great. <3

-'you must be exhausted carrying the weight of that mistake you made years ago' 'well we all make mistakes. maybe I'll make one now!' WHY DID THIS EXHCHANGE SEND ME. AND VLAD WITH THE BREATH SPRAY EWWW BITCH. 'OLD BAIT BREATH' SOO RIGHT. both danny and his mom playing him HAHAH hes so dumb. or rather, I think he thinks with his emotions too too much and is...actually pretty gullible? lmao he believed danny was ready to give in SO fast. (which is sad hes that hopeful, like you have SO MUCH MONEY YOU COULD EASILY GET ANOTHER GIRL WHO HAS A KID. AND WOULD WANT TO BE WITH YOU AND BE SUPPORTED. GET OVER THIS (1) WOMAN ALREADY IM GETTING SECONDHAND EMBARRASSMENT AAAAH)

-GHOST BEAR GHOST BEAR GHOST BEAR. it was also in the title card, but I still got very excited. we love bears here

-SAM'S BAT SWIMSUIT COVERUP!!! her outfits are simply iconic.

-'i'd tell you to go to the mens room, but I don't think you qualify' top paulina transphobic moments. :( and him wearing a tanktop to the swim park? hmmm! (actually I think she was overshadowed by then, so, KITTY top 10 transphobic moments??)

-kitty just piloting paulina around makes me feel SO bad tho, paulina's gonna wake up and be like 'wtf do you mean I was dating this rando' like youre leading danny on to make johnny jealous, and also just POSSESSING POOR PAULINA. dude take your relationship problems ELSEWHERE. last time we saw them, they seemed like such a cute couple!! wtf johnny!! I mean, she sucks for trying to make him jealous, he sucks for looking at other girls...maybe they need a break, but Not Like This. or, you know, just. better communication...

-and the A-listers having a full packet and a stamp system. who organizes this. kwan fucking owning being the new danny though, this is hysterical. THE TUCKER/KWAN FLOWER FIELD TWIRL. UNIRONICALLY ADORABLE. and him giving it his all for the poetry slam. bless his HEARTTTT.

-Star owns. actually, all of the extra characters are shining this ep and I love it.

-INVISO-BILL??? NOOOO THEY DID HIM SOO DIRTY. DANNY SWEETIE IM SO SORRY.

-johnny and danny bein friends and staging a fake fight (which danny takes too seriously, once again this child has aggression he NEEDS TO WORK OUT) I hope these three stay friends, I said it before but danny needs more friendly ghosts to hang with.

-at this point, Danny's ghost enemies are a lot like, I dunno, batman's rouge gallery is the first thing that comes to mind. they all have their own gimmick and unique designs, but most of them are easy to beat after learning the Moral Lesson. I still get excited when any of them show up again, though. 18 is another valerie episode!!!! :D skulker really said you two will get along if I have to handcuff you together <3 and the gym teacher really said, youre married now, have a flour baby! ngl, I'm not really watching this show for the shipping stuff (which I am very scared to look at the fandom for after I finish this watch through- I feel like there's probably discourse/arguing about ships...) but. I'm gonna put my opinion out there. valerie/danny > sam/danny. maybe I just really love the enemies to lovers trope. And the secret identity stuff adds Extra Flavor.

-SKULKER JUST HAVING THE BOX GHOST AND DANGLING HIM BY A STRING. HILARIOUS. and him watching them with binoculars and making his silly little commentary. AND MAKING THE SACK BABY CRY. LMAO. THIS DUDE IS A BABY KIDNAPPER. skulker is super fun

-danny, you just...collapsed the water tower. and then attacked the nasty burger machine...mascot thingy...out of anger..I KEEP SAYING HE'S GOT ANGER ISSUES BUT. HE REALLY NEEDS A LESSON IN MANAGING COLLATERAL DAMAGE!!! So does valerie!! They're both pretty focused on each other. I mean it's good of Danny to say he's trying to make sure PEOPLE don't get hurt, but... (I mean I guess it's not something 14 year olds WOULD worry about, but as an adult im like, who's going to fix that? how much money will that take??)

-TUCKER MAKING BANK. and sam and tucker being super emotionally attached to their flour baby and being pretty good parents. that's cute...also him just straight kissing her and being like. WAIT. O_O JDSKAFHD. his mom baking them into cookies was the funniest possible result. tbh I dont feel like this is on tucker, if anything the other kid's shouldve been more responsible! He was just taking an opportunity to get that $$ which I respect

-Danny being more understanding of Valerie's situation in the end (helping her at her job, too, and trying to keep that a secret for her!!!) And seeing them work together this ep, and also her letting phantom get her out of the ghost zone...was very sweet. LOVE that. more valerie eps pls

-me when I realize vlad's big stupid house exploded because of his own carelessness with changing the ghost portal ectofiltrator or whatever: *pointing and laughing*

-me when I realize it means he's gonna go make danny's life hell for it somehow: >:(

-SCOOBY PARODY!!! I feel like there's gotta be some scooby doo/danny phantom crossover stuff, right? also, 'guys in white' men in black wishes

-'oh, that's right! dad married the love of your life! you're bitter and alone!' DANNNNNYY GET HIS ASS ONCE AGAIN WE ARE POINTING AND LAUGHING AT VLAD

-'jack, you captured the ghost boy!!' UMM. he did nothing <3 'we have a weapon's vault??' YOU HAVE A WEAPONS VAULT??? and jack didnt put a handle on the inside. of fucking course he didnt! why would you leave that to your son!! or expect him to clean YOUR LAB when its where you work with probably dangerous chemicals and weapons and hes 14!! give him normal chores, like, I dunno, vacuuming, laundry, dishes...CMON. I hate it here. But I'm glad Jack is more chill about danny while he's a ghost, and willing to work with him for this ep. AND. I DID ENJOY JACK PUNCHING VLAD IN THE FACE. AND GENERALLY JUST OWNING HIM. the ghost punchy fists are actually amazing. like yeah, just punch a ghost in the face. that rules.

-ep 20 opens with the coolest fucking ghost lady design. her tattoos can come off and fight. MA'AM. I like ur nose ring and your cape maam hello 👉👈😳

-sam's grandma is hilarious and the most valid member of her family and I love her. thats my grandma now. and tucker covering for sam by dressing as her. thats true friendship <3 also skipping school to go to a goth circus. just bestie things! sam's parents are haters but for all the wrong reasons.

-'my family has controlled ghosts with this for generations!' WAIT. WAIT FREAKSHOW /ISNT/ A GHOST? I didn't expect that...he's just a fucked up guy controlling ghosts? anyway watching danny shoot at police cars and rob banks while mind controlled. its like, the most stereotypical 'bad' things lmao. (tbh an evil ghost circus troupe is a sick concept)

this gives off big deviantart emo edit vibes

(I'm going to assume evil circus reaper danny has a lot of fan content. people love an edgy au, except this one is canon (even tho its via mind control...having the protag go evil otherwise might be hard, I guess?) but au where he stays with the troupe...that has to exist, right?)

ANYWAY. excited to start s2!! lowkey surprised by how many notes some of these posts have gotten. I've gone back and tagged them all with 'dp thoughts' so they're easier to find on my blog! ^^ and I will probably possibly do (more) fanart on my art blog after I finish the watch of the whole show, so like. @sanchoyodraws follow my art blog :)

[magicalmonsterhero]

Feedback Needed: Danny Phantom Story Ideas

Exactly as it says on the tin: I have a few story ideas, but I need some input/feedback, not just likes. While they are mostly for worldbuilding purposes, I plan to give at least one of these an individual post.

These ideas are, to varying degrees, inspired by the numerous similarities between Danny and Peter Parker. Heck, TVTropes even lists him as an example under Spider-Man Send-Up.

Idea #1: Alternate Dannys

A while back, I stumbled upon @nastyburger‘s Dannyverse AU, which was clearly inspired by Into the Spider-Verse. While only five alternates showed up in the movie (not counting Miles Morales since it’s his world), there are a lot of parallel world Spiders in the comics and the Ultimate cartoon. I’m personally interested in seeing your takes on DP equivalents of the following alternates/worlds:

-Miles

-Noir

-2099

-MC2

Idea #2: Other Hero Parallels

Very little is known of the world outside Amity Park, the Ghost Zone, and ghost-related things. Honestly, who’s to say there aren’t any werebeasts, demons, witches, or fae, among other paranormal or otherwise not-so-ordinary things. Continuing the Danny/Peter comparison, it’s not unlike how the Raimi trilogy and Amazing duology gave us no information on whether or not any other Marvel heroes existed in their respective universes. Of course, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence--for all we know, the Raimiverse could have its own versions of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, etc.--but if we consider Danny a parallel to Spidey, what would his world’s equivalents of other Marvel heroes be like? You don’t even need to have said equivalents be obvious: for example, the Thor counterpart need not be a thunder deity or from Norse legend.

Idea #3: Phantom Phorce

As I mentioned earlier, we know practically nothing about the paranatural side that doesn’t involve ghosts, so the phandom is free to use their own ideas for how other supernatural beings work. I myself have an ‘expanded team’ concept which involves coming up with such ideas. While it’s far from complete, I’m happy to share what I’ve got so far in hopes of positive feedback and/or suggestions:

-Dash: Some of you may think I’m out of my mind, but considering Dash is clearly based on Flash Thompson, I’m surprised people haven’t compared the two more thoroughly. Flash has undergone a lot of character development since the webslinger’s early days, even becoming a hero in his own right as Agent Venom. Since there’s no obvious Venom parallel in DP canon, I’ve had to come up with my own--I’m not going too far into detail here, but I will say the counterpart to the Venom symbiote is demonic in origin.

(This particular idea is actually what started the ball rolling, which is why it comes first.)

-Sam: As it turns out, Sam’s part of a long line of hereditary witches, but her mother Pamela, who was unlucky enough to not have any powers (inherited magic occasionally skips a generation), did everything in her power to keep her powers from awakening. Unfortunately for Pamela, her attempts were all for nothing, as the ghost of her and Sam’s ancestor helped Sam discover and embrace her destiny.

-Tucker: Not wanting to be stuck on the sidelines, Tucker takes the position of ‘tech guy’ to the next level by implanting specialized microchips under his skin (with help from Danny’s intangibility powers). Said chips enable him to remotely hack and control all tech within a certain range, much like the ones Tony developed in Iron Man 3. I’m thinking of having him make other equipment himself, but I’m not sure of the specifics ATM.

-Star: After the ‘ghost flu’ affair (i.e. Doctor’s Disorders), those who were afflicted were required to have a bit of bloodwork done to make sure there wouldn’t be any negative aftereffects. Most of the results displayed nothing unusual, but Star’s blood revealed that her mother’s husband was not her biological father. However, it was not until just after Sam became a witch that Star began to experience several changes, culminating in her entering a flower bud-like cocoon. While she slept, she was contacted through her dreams by her birth father, who turned out to be one of the Fair Folk, making Star half fae.

I also intend to have Paulina and Kwan join the party, though I’m still working out the details for their roles--all I’ve decided so far is that Paulina becomes a werebeast (not sure what animal) and Kwan is an elemental (either earth or water). Valerie’s part of the team too, albeit as the ‘Badass Normal’ member.

Anyone interested in learning more about any of these ideas, feel free to send me an ask. Same goes for anyone who’s got a suggestion or two.

[light-koe-pinsky]

some thoughts about Danny and sams relationship cuz im trying to make sense on why i still like them together after all these years lol

I think Is really fucking cute how Danny restrains himself every time Sam pulls back from showing affection

He never questions her, never pressures her into giving more than what she does

Sam would push him to the bushes and kiss him to create a "distraction"

Danny is totally infatuated by the kiss

She quickly pedals back and tells him It wasnt a real kiss

Danny snaps out of it real quick and tells her that he didnt thought it was a real kiss and Is revealed un another episode that Is him who comes up with the idea of calling It a Fake out make out pressumably to make her feel better

After the spell of ember, Sam runs to hug him and he reciprocates the hug but again Sam quickly pulls back and Danny follows her doing a mirror reaction

Sam says that some of the spell must still present in her

Tucker exposes her saying she never was under such spell and Sam elbows him

Danny doesnt say anything

Whenever someone asumes she's his girlfriend, Danny Is quick to correct them that Is not quite true, with whoever It is, the ghosts, their enemies, the kids at school, his parents

The only time he sorta pressures her to saying something is when ghost king scapes and he has to use the Fenton armor, and doesnt know if hes going to come back and even then he doesnt explicitly outs her feelings, he just says "but if there's anything you want to tell me, nows the time" and that's it

Okay there's that time with trevor, its not a justification but Valerie had just rejected him, its normal he was a little apreensive also the instant Sam calls him out he steps back and thinks "wait wtf am i doing?" And leaves her alone

And after Sam suffers from falling out of love with trevor Danny Is there to reassure her that she Is and i quote "smart, fun, pretty" and to apologize for following them and just generaly being a jerk

Hes always complementing her "i always thought you ruled Sam"

"You should listen to some of those ideas and i should too" (when she is in that kingdom where Time Is stopped)

"That Is the coolest girl ive ever met" when Sam wishes she had never met him

AND i know we don't talk about phantom planet and almost everything about It is wrong BUT and before you kill me

THAT KISS was the ONLY thing they got right about them, okay? I don't care about the meaningless plot i don't care about tucker being the fucking governor

THAT KISS, the hesitation, the sweet kiss on dannys cheek the way Danny realizes "oh so she does love me" and proceeds to kiss her swooping His hand under Sams hair to cup her face , Is just 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌perfect

Like he waits until hes absolutely fuckin sure that she likes him in order to Advance, not really because hes not sure what he feels about her but because hes not sure what SHE feels towards him

And is not really that he does not notice all of Sams signs that she has a crush on him, and this Is another thing that I love about this ship, because we as the audience are SURE that Sam Is super infantuated with Danny, she looks longingly at him when hes flying as the sun hits Danny just right 👌 and his hair flows heroically with the wind lmao, she dreams about him being happy and she being her girlfriend, she invites him to dance, she acts jealous everytime someone tries to get closer to Danny

She's head over heels for him, and Danny Is shown to notice all this, when he catched Sam looking at him when they were flying he just smiles and doesnt say anything, Danny sees Sam's dream and when asked what was she dreaming he covers her and says he doesnt remember, all those are little acts of respect, of understanding that he knows how she feels but he knows she doesnt feel comfortable with giving too much yet

Like ...

Is always more obvious how Sam takes care of Danny and tucker, she's a wonderful friend and DOES everything in her power to help them, to help Danny and Danny of course tries to take care of everyone as a hero

But the way he takes care of Sam and roots for her and respects her space and choices

That Is just 👌 👌👌👌👌✨💕💕💞

They just... They just be taking care of eachother man, and that kills me