#i just love phoebe man
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August is really the thought daughter month cuz like
Salt air and the rust on your door?
Come on home you don't have to be alone?
You're a winter bitch but summer's in your blood?
Summer child?
Grant "you weren't mine to lose" chapman?
Like there is a lot for me to dwell on this month see u in september
#should i make a playlist#or would it just a hybrid of my every other playlist#who cares that's just my spotify at this point#august#thought daughter#salt air and the rust on your door#you weren't mine to lose#grant chapman#true blue#boygenius#the record#atyd#atyd marauders#remus john lupin#sirius orion black#summer child#summer's end#phoebe bridgers#maria taylor#i know its a cover don't come for me#i just love phoebe man
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how it feels when you realize the memory hurts but does you no harm
#phoebe makes an original post!#sorry i haven't been active life is just crazy!!!#anyways#ive been in an abstract kinda mood recently. make of that what you will.#hozier#man i love hozier#folkloreposting#andrew hozier byrne#unreal unearth#abstract (psychopomp)
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I don't want to bother you while you're in your art challenge, take your time to answer! I just loved your analysis and opinion of Branchus, and i saw in the post you said we could ask you for others Apollo's lovers... I want to know (they're not lovers, they're grandfather and grandmother lol, but i would like to see your thoughts) of Koios and Phoebe 👀 Not in relationship with Apollo, just your opinion of them...
We don't know so much about Koios, we know a bit more about Phoebe because of her tie to Delphi and the Oracle.
Oh, how sweet! Thank you so much for the consideration and hey, no worries at all on asking about his grandparents rather than a lover, I'm always ready to ramble about Apollo's genealogical line since I find it extremely interesting!
Since information on a lot of the older Titans in terms of how they were worshipped and seen is scarce (Phoebe does have mentions in her mantic right but very little is mentioned in reference to Koios or her daughters apart from establishing genealogy and Koios himself seems to have been more of an abstract establishment, the way a lot of Hesiod's old gods were) I won't go out of my way to quote or base my opinions here in any literature that I've been exposed to, so just keep in mind that what I'm going to say is very much my own opinions mixed with things I understand and very influenced by my own love of familial and romantic parallels in god-pairs being symbolic of various natural and abstract relationships!
I see Koios and Phoebe, like a lot of the older Titan pairs, as abstractions of the original pair of Gaia and Uranus. Power often originates with and is exerted by women in these older pairs while glory is what is passed on, and consequently fought over, by the men - in Gaia and Uranus' case, it is Gaia who is older and it is from Gaia that Uranus is born. Uranus is her match but is also her subservient and so when Uranus is unable to love his children and seeks their destruction, it's Gaia who bestows the power and means by which to silence him. This 'equal but subservient' dynamic is definitely alive and well with Koios and Phoebe and I even think they mirror their parents from a symbolic standpoint as well.
Koios and Phoebe are the knowledge duo. They represent the two sources of knowledge/wisdom in the old world - that of heavenly (male) knowledge which pertains to the nature of the physical world and its realities and earthly (female) knowledge which pertains to the nature of intangible and unobservable reality such as time and space. I like having them mirror each other; what with them both being associated with their respective world axes (Koios as the heavenly axis if you syncretise him with the Roman Polos, Phoebe as the earthly axis if you take Delphi as the centerpoint of the world), having serpent symbolism (Koios with the hundred-headed star-serpent Drakon who guards the Hesperides which is sometimes said to be located in the land of the Hyperboreans and Phoebe with Python who guards the fount of knowledge at Delphi) and splitting their essence equally across their descendants (Their children and grandchildren perfectly embody one half of their partnership - Asteria with her heavenly magic and night-prophecies and Leto with her earthly power and wisdom and their grandchildren following likewise; Hecate who works beneath her grandfather's skies and has her grandmother's wisdom but who has chosen to reside neither in the sky nor on the earth, Artemis who could not be more of a daughter of the soil and Apollo who has his place among the brightest of stars).
It all leads back to that really fun dichotomy of equal but subservient honestly! Knowledge (and wisdom/intelligence) in general in Greek myths are female in nature so already that kind of puts Koios in an interesting position as a direct male descendent of Gaia and Uranus who didn't represent some physical, tangible element (in contrast his brothers all had some level of physicality to them - Oceanus the oceans, Cronus the harvest, Crius the winds, Hyperion the light, so on and so forth) but there's also that element of Koios' glory also being female! After all, his only male descendent is two generations removed and what should be his seat of power - Hyperborea - became Leto's the moment she was born there.
In this way, I admittedly find that a lot of comfort in Koios and Phoebe's partnership. There's a lot of respect both ways between them with Koios' respect and regard of Phoebe reminding me a lot of Uranus' original adoration of Gaia (and his return to said quiet, constant adoration after his castration) while Phoebe's overseeing of her mantle being very reminiscent of Gaia's own kingmaking both for Cronus and later for Zeus. For me, theirs is a pair without ego. A lot of the friction and instability in the younger generation of gods comes from the battle between intelligence and power - toes are constantly stepped on, glory is constantly being sought and the efforts made to counteract these moves results in conflict. Koios and Phoebe seem to have it all figured out by comparison. They've both handily passed their mantles down to their children, they've both overseen and instructed them and can rest easy knowing that they will not misuse said mantles and they've both just kind of retired now, content to spend their time in the evergreen Hyperborea, wrapped up in each other's arms like their father and mother before them and like, honestly? Good for them.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#pursuing daybreak posting#This was a lot of fun to put into words ngl!#I really love thinking about Koios and Phoebe because I genuinely just imagine that they're stupidly powerful#stupidly in love old people who are just living out their days peacefully after millenia of nonsense#It helps that their grandchildren genuinely have shit so under control all the time - they legit never have to step in or squabble over#politics or power. Like grandma and grandpabbie are straight vibing and you love to see it#Considering Drakon and Python - I also really like paralleling them as implements of Koios and Phoebe#Because Apollo slays Python and in doing so transitions from child to man as he claims his birthright while Heracles#slays Drakon for the golden apples as the last step before his metaphorical apotheosis; his trip into death and his glorious return#No I will never stop talking about Apollo and Heracles as a sibling and divine pair you can't stop me#But yeah no - Koios and Phoebe are super cool I love them a lot and I genuinely think the femininity of the mantic line is something#worth exploring not just from an academic perspective but from a literary perspective because female power in Greek myths is extremely#and distressingly underrated like it's actually crazy. Apollo's whole family line is nothing but powerful ass women#Anyway I'm not gonna get onto that soapbox here but just think about it#Hope you enjoyed reading this anon <33#Coeus#Phoebe#Apollo#Artemis#Leto#Asteria#greek mythology
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Everyone Introduced in Dimension 20's Burrow's End episode 10 (finale)
#dimension 20 spoilers#dimension 20#d20 introductions#burrow's end#burrow's end spoilers#d20 burrow's end#in which i regret putting multiple versions of the same intro card because of the burning overlay vs not#well shit. i committed to it and now i'm in for it#featuring bonus Wenabocker who just happened to have a little flash of blue in his appearance this ep (though it might have been present b4#i KNEW the phoebe intro card would be a doozy but i also did NOT expect that battleset to be that TERRIFYING. like good GOD#very wonderful season though- i loved it a lot (even as someone who doesn't stomach a whole lot of gore/body horror often)#man what a ride.......#see y'all next season!!
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IM BACK WITH ANOTHER THOUGHT
Sadly all I have been able do when listening to music for well over a month is relate it to jayvik so I need to share that One Upon a Poolside by The National and Sufjan Stevens feels so Coming Home (But Not To You) to me. I think it’s actually about having to perform when depressed but some of the lines sent me into a jayvik spiral
“Everything is different. Why do I feel the same?”
“I'll follow you everywhere
While you work the room
I don't know how you do it”
(Feel so Viktor observing Jayce to me)
“I thought we could make it through anything”
Basically I am never not thinking about them dear lord
Also I cannot wait to read Here at the End of All Things but I am waiting for a moment when it won’t emotionally destroy me (I fear that moment won’t come so probably just need to bite the bullet)
Anyway hope you’ve had a lovely start to 2025 and so excited for your new projects!!!
Once Upon a Poolside you mean the iconic collab between my two favorite artists of all time?!?!? I CANNOT BELIEVE I FORGOT THIS HAPPENED. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW INSANE IT IS THAT I SPECIFICALLY FORGOT THIS HAPPENED.
I swear I was in such a weird headspace when that album came out. I am forever in your debt for reminding me that existed.
I am adding this so fast to the playlist near the songs for chapter 7 thank you.
#fucking hell man and they collaborated with phoebe bridgers too#and taylor swift for the alcott but uhh#yeah lowkey i am not her biggest fan im sorry#i grew up on her music i was a defender for so long genuinely loved folklore its just the billionaire thing you know#sorry#anyways that album was wild not my favorite of theirs but still very good#new order t-shirt is such a banger#your mind is not your friend is fucking phenomenal#send for me is such a sweet song#okay im done sorry you did not need all these opinions#ask bee#actually i lied this is chapter 5 flashback core
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okay so leslie is canonically from philly. right? but if leslie, The Character, was From PHILLY, his character would have been like ten times better
#charmed#like if he was like quasi 90s trash almost sleazeball go birds kind of guy#it would kind of make phoebe’s reaction make sooooo much more sense#like if leslie wore tshirts i wouldn’t really trust his advice to women#This Would Also Make his constant insistence that phoebe likes him which is just Such a dumb plot#because it’s so obvious? obviously she likes him and he’s making it super obvious he likes her too#and they’re both young hot single professionals who are barely coworkers because theyll never actually share a workspace#like it makes No Sense for it to me a drawn out will they wont they#but if it was more of a punchline ‘come on admit it you like me’ would be like a joke!#bc we Know Phoebe at this point her last two major relationships#Especially In The Eyes Of The Public#were with a billionaire and a hot shot lawyet who literally put her jn a penthouse#no way she’s gonna date a guy From Philly#and it also makes it more of a conflict and quite frankly more believable that phoebe would have this conflict#bc whoa. look at this guy. who gives weirdly good advice. and is weirdly insightful.#and has me consciously wearing red and gold fits every sunday as a subtle Fuck You to hos eagles bullshit#is this man. reallly. like. someone i am falling in love with#Do You Hear Me People!!!!!!!!!#phoebe x leslie#leslie st claire
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#the sprained ankle sweep#it’s not even my favourite album I just listen to it to fall asleep sometimes#bc Little Oblivions is too loud#Sleeping at Last being my 2nd artist is mildly surprising but honestly I love that man so I’m happy#julien baker#sleeping at last#lucy dacus#phoebe bridgers#boygenius
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psst psst psst i just listened to thumbs by lucy dacus again for the first time in a while and shit man that song is allll royjamie
here are just some of the lyrics i offer as proof:
you hung up the phone and I asked you what was wrong / your dad has come to town, he’d like to meet / I said you don’t have to see him / but for whatever reason you can’t tell him no
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i would kill him if you let me / I would kill him quick and easy
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i wanna take your face between my hands and say / you two are connected by a pure coincidence / bound to him by blood, but baby, it's all relative / you’ve been in his fist ever since you were a kid / but you don't owe him shit even if he said you did
oh my God :( yeah. Yeah.....
#ask#royjamie#I can't imagine Roy being happy about Jamie reconciling with James I honestly think it would make him sick#not just because of his concern for Jamie but because he's essentially a father himself#i think his relationship with phoebe would make it almost impossible for him to have empathy for man who would hurt a child#he has a parent's perspective which is different#he can't fathom anyone not having the same intense love and protectiveness for their baby that he has
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you've infected me with the better oblivion community center bug, i listen to their songs daily and have had multiple epiphanies whilst doing so, and now i gotta know: what's your top 3 songs by them and are there any lines that you love particularly?
OH MY GOD THANK YOU FOR ASKING!!!!! 😭 a long time ago, i made a list of what i thought the best better oblivion songs were in order! here it is:
although i do believe those are the best songs in order, big black heart, their single little trouble, and my city will always be number ones in my eyes! for lyrics that I love, i have so many:
#better oblivion community center#the lyric ”your black heart is BIG 🖤” reminds me of shane 💛#just since ppl joke that he’s kinda devilish#but even so#his heart is huge and he’s so loving and kind 💛#and ”i heard the short one’s kinda famous” lyric reminds me of ryan 😭#LMAOOO#i love infecting ppl with the music i love like a virus#although if you’re enjoying better oblivion#the man in the album (conner oberst) has a band named bright eyes!#and the girl (phoebe bridgers) has single music and a band called boygenius!!!#I highly suggest Phoebe Bridgers#I know literally every single song she has ever put out 😭#she is my favorite artist!!! 😭#aly’s music taste#ghoul girls! <3#aly’s lovely moots!
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Who did you think would win in a battle?
Wyatt Halliwell or Hope Mikaelson?
Definitely Wyatt Halliwell! Mostly because I haven't actually watched a single episode of any of the Vampire Diaries shows yet, so I have no idea who Hope is. (The main character in Legacies, I think?) (Don't worry, it's on my to watch list, my watch list is just really long atm.) I will say though that Wyatt is gonna be my answer for most situations. (Also thanks for the chance to do a little meta about Wyatt and his powers.)
From an objective standpoint in regards to powers, Wyatt wins against pretty much anything. I've said before and I'll say it again, I believe that Wyatt managed to break the Grand Design in the unchanged future with the exposure of magic, and I think that means he was able to kill some beings that he should not have traditionally been able to, aka the Cleaners and maybe even the Angel(s) of Destiny. (Which also loops into one of my now favorite headcanons that prophecies are made as a warning that a witch capable of breaking the Grand Design is coming.)
The catch, and how I'm able to write Wyatt in literally any conflict in my next gen fics, is that he has a critical weakness: he is terrified at the possibility of what he's capable of. (I have also mentioned that interpretation before, in connection with how Billie unintentionally makes it worse.) That kind of power is a lot for one person to handle, and Wyatt outclasses quite literally everyone around him by a large margin. I think that in a sense, his own fear serves as a kind of limiter on his power because he won't use them to the fullest extent. This is partially because he doesn't fully know what he's capable of because he doesn't experiment with his powers or push boundaries the same way that Chris does. While Wyatt has that kind of power, he lacks a greater amount of control and precision because he doesn't practice.
In a situation where Wyatt does go full-out, however, I think that he wins, no question. It's incredibly rare for him to do so, but one of his primary powers (projection) is a version of reality warping, y'know? That's not even getting into the fact that he has energy waves that can flat-out incinerate enemies without even trying. The challenge is getting him to a place where he doesn't hold back.
#knightlywonders#asks#charmed#wyatt halliwell#i'm sorry i know this definitely isn't what you were looking for but i still need to sit down and watch tvd universe stuff#charmed meta#i was looking through my wyatt tag and i'm surprised i don't have more in there#i love wyatt halliwell so much like he is just a character that i think you can interpret in so many different ways#but canon lends itself to some pretty complex interpretations bc this is a child raised with such a powerful legacy#but also has his own heavy expectations and responsibility from when he is BORN so deciding how to balance it all#is just really interesting to me. he's definitely one of my favorite characters to rotate in my brain#even tho i def don't do it nearly as much as chris and bianca but he's up there#everytime i sit down and plot for the next gen characters i just get obsessed#like phoebe's oldest daughter peyton? love rotating her in my brain she's great#there's just so much to work with the idea of legacy and how their parents impacted them#but also the way that they each kinda have their own responsibilities that are unique to them#along with the unique way that they each approach magic and demons and protecting the innocent#idk i just love next gen so much man
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Matty Healy and Taylor Swift could literally be making out in my living room and I'd be like "oh my god they found a way to exchanged musical cues through their tongues, they're clearly working on a 1989 vault track"
#did you ever hear about the girl who lives in delusion?#I'd just love a 1989 collab with the 1975#I guess they could still collab if they are dating#edit: i didn't know about most of the stuff he has done/said when i first posted this and don't want a collab anymore now that i know#why she would date this musty crusty problematic man is beyond me#I don't actually care that much#I just hate being wrong#I truly thought the sun was just making shit up#but of course matty healy had to ruin it by coming to her concert#and then taylor did the whole “i love you” thing like wtf was that?#she is so messy right now#I can't wait for all the crazy stuff that will happen at tonights show#also I'm not up to date with anything so most of my takes are already outdated when I post them#like found out phoebe brought matty on stage like 10 minutes ago#i can't deal with all of this#taylor swift#matty healy#1989#the 1975
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I dream about it and I wake up falling
#I use to watch their brooklyn steel live whole performance on YouTube a couple years back and#phoebe singing this especially her belting moment means so much to me it’s literally my favorite thing#like I use to play it in my car to just hear that part#it’s not on the recorded version gotta hear it live idk man it’s special tho#phoebe bridgers#love u#mine#boygenius
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me listening to letter to an old poet for the first time: wow so no bocc 2 then huh 😞
#KIDDING !!!!!!#i think phoebe should be allowed to kil every man who has made her feel bad if she wants . i just also love bocc so much#my post
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remind me to never listen to sapphic songs again. god im fucking crushed like. im just remembering a 4 month long situationship while listening to these songs. IT BARELY EXISTED AND YET HERE I AM
#wlw relationships fucking suck but they are also the best#fuck you boygenius for making a song that perfectly describe me in my last situationship#but also i love yall i would do anything for yall#gOD JUST#not strong enough and how julien says im capable of being your man but the responsibility is not something i can handle#and the fact that i KNOW the girl i was with in my last situationship knew that as well#im so fucking guilty bro i was such a dick#fuckboygenius indeed#boygenius#phoebe bridgers#julien baker#lucy dacus
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i think this was literally copied and plagiarized from my brain from my interactions with my father
#boygenius#you made me feel like an equal.#but i’m BETTER than YOU and you should know that.#bye now#YOU DONT KNOW ME😑😑#fuck my dad man#i’m going to spend my whole life begging for everybody around me to love me just bc he fucking couldn’t#phoebe bridgers#is my spirit animal if i was a white woman with shitty taste in men
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My love for Roy Kent knows no bounds
#roy kent#ted lasso#i love that man#hes just the best#THAT SCENE WITH REBECCA#and him with phoebe#i love him#greatest character ever
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