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I love how Ekko's stans project their hatred onto Caitlyn, but completely turn a blind eye to Heimerdinger, who was, by the way, the embodiment of white male privilege.
The basis for this claim is most evident in the fact that he receives almost ZERO hate from the fans, even though for 200 years he couldnāt be bothered to cross that damn bridge and see how far behind Zaun was compared to Piltover. Not even after Jinx and Viās parents died in the civil war. He was like "Yeah, that's none of my business"??? But if a female character breaks down because, her mother was murdered, suddenly everyone loses their mind. Now, thatās the real hypocritical attitude and misogyny.
Also, the fact that no one has criticized Ekko and Heimerdingerās interaction speaks volumes.
Ekko knew that the professor was the most influential man in Piltover for >>>GENERATIONS<<<, yet there was no confrontation between them.
Imagine if that mf had even once stepped out of his bubble before Vander's and Silco's character was even bornānone of this shit would've happened. And yet, he gets away with it and the writers gets away with it.
Overall: None of Cait's actions was the best but some of you just really hate women and let men get away with everything.
Edit:
This tweet reeks of hypocrisy and reinforces exactly what I wrote above. The fandom forgave Heimerdinger and portrays him as the Piltoverian who took responsibility for his actions, even though his redemption wasn't on-screen either. The guy literally only lifted a finger after being kicked off the council, and even when they shifted to an alternate universe, there was no ON-SCREEN evidence that he initiated any changes in Zaun. He spent the whole time singing songs, and people felt sympathy for him because he died in the end ā which, frankly, was the least he could do.
No one looks past the faƧade because they see a cute autistic grandpa, while on the other side, we have a grieving young woman whoās being exploited. She didn't need 40 or 200 years to realize the weight of her actions and is fighting tooth and nail to rewrite the future.
This is what I was talking about when I mentioned misogyny. Everyone forgives the grandpa figure for everything, and even Christian was able to comment on a tweet that painted him as the only Piltoverian who took responsibility.
#arcane#caitlyn kiramman#caitvi#arcane s2 spoilers#vi#arcane season 2#vi arcane#arcane discussion#ekko arcane#ekko#timebomb#heimerdinger#cecil b. Heimerdinger#arcane s2#arcane zaun#zaun#piltover and zaun#sevika arcane#leauge of legends
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Okay why are Jikookers literally elder people? 30 is not old at all, but I've seen children and teens in other shipper fandoms, not this one ...what brings y'all together like this š
But happy birthday love š may you grow to see your generations š
Ahhh thank you so much for the birthday wishes anon š
What you're saying makes me wonder.
I have a jikooker friend who is 70+ š
But I believe some jikookers with greater levels of maturity can truly understand jikook's bond on a deep level, having been themselves in serious relationships and having more experience with relationships in general. So that's probably why.
It is true that tkkers are usually way younger and more immature š§ you're raising an interesting point!
People with some years behind them can understand better the human behaviour. Usually when you are in your teen years it is very common to experience toxic behaviours because young people don't know how to put up personal boundaries yet and if they weren't raised with a lot of love, well they lack self-love as well.
So in fact they have no idea what a healthy relationship looks like, that's why we see so many toxic narratives about the members and their relationships.
Of course I'm talking generalities I am well aware some older fans are also involved with other ships and fuel those narratives. But it's usually fans who even in their adult lives continue to have distorted perceptions of what is good and healthy.
My view on this might be quite radical but nobody in their right mind could be a serious taekooker. Nobody.
Their ship is based entirely on falshood and toxicity. When you are not distorted in your views it is impossible to get behind a ship such as this. (Except if its for just fun I guess)
I think for a balanced adult the only relationship that makes the most sense is jikook. Because they are themselves balanced and healthy and there is absolutely nothing toxic about them.
But not everyone grows in the same way and not everyone can have a balanced point of view and have enough experience to understand the subtleties of human exchange.
That's why there are so many disparities. And that's why I think a lot of jikooker are mostly older.
Jikookers do not have the shiny object syndrom. We do not think jikook are in a relationship because "it's hot" or "it would be cool".
We simply observe them and drew conclusions from our own personal experiences that made us go "Ok I see what this is" and that's it, literally.
That's why I think sometimes we should not take what tkkers do so seriously because some of them are really young and yes sometimes children. They don't even understand what they are doing and what they are believing in.
But it's true jikook draw people with certain levels of maturity, and I think it's quite indispensable to truly understand the depth of their relationship. Nothing beats personal experiences to compare lol
(Again it is all general statements and I know there are exceptions)
I answered quickly but I hope you see now why some jikookers might be older.
Thanks again and take care š
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People are so angry at Nesta. Theyāre constantly upset about the audacity of Nesta for not fawning over Cassian immediately and for making him work for her affection. Theyāre mad and say she doesnāt deserve Cassian because she made him work for her attention. As if, because Cassian is male (and a hot one at that) itās absurd that Nesta doesnāt just fall on her knees and offer him her submission immediately.
All their hatred toward Nesta, who just wants to set her boundariesā¦ All their hatred toward a woman who at the very least, obviously needs time to heal after facing never ending trauma in her very young life.
All that hatred from these people for her suffering in an āinconvenient and unpleasant wayā only for the same people to frantically defend Cassian when in a book so thick, he never once says, āI love youā to his mate. In a book so thick, he lets his mate get berated by his brother again... and again... and again. In a book SO THICK, by the end of it his mate still feels like she has to prove herself worthy of his love. And after a book so thick, the next time we see this so called āMATEā he again lets his brother make her feel like sheās going to be murdered.
Nesta offended them so much just by being an FMC who isnāt immediately nice to Cassian and Rhysand. They attack her for something so human while foaming at the mouth if anyone says one bad thing about Cassian.
Cassian (the male who is 500 years older than her) canāt even say āI love youā to his own mate. And according to some, Cassian āknows the difference in her expressionsā and because of that ridiculous example, itās somehow supposed to make up for his inability to say the actual words. They twist themselves into knots trying to claim this is proof he loves her through his āactionsā when in reality, itās just more bullshit to excuse his lack of affection and mate-ism toward Nesta. Honestly, anyone who lives in the same house and spends enough time with Nesta would probably pick up on her expressions. I bet even Azriel, whoās supposedly a good āspymasterā could identify her expressions too.
Hereās something people know, but I just want to say it again: Cassian is a BAD MATE. A HORRID MATE. While I donāt want him to die because Nesta has already dealt with enough bullshit from SJM and the fandom, I do hope Cassian gets humiliated by so many people in the next book. I want him to realize how bad of a mate heās been, beat Rhysand to a pulp, weep and sob for Nestaās forgiveness, and leave the IC FOR GOOD.
#anti acotar#anti acotar fandom#acotar critical#acotar fandom critical#anti sjm#anti cassian#anti ic#anti inner circle#anti nessian#cassian critical#anti rhys
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Dear Fandom,
To say I am deeply disappointed in what this fandom has become is an understatement, but because I really don't want to start aggression by using vulgar language or to stress the VAs out anymore than they probably are; I'm going to try keep it at a certain level. But man, there are better ways to ask for a whole army to come after you with pitchforks like this was the fucking middle ages and without having all this damage being done.
And now we're losing a big part of this show because some people just had to cross the line over a hundred fucking times now. I'm so ever proud and impressed with Kat for dealing with this and for so longā and with three other jobs as well? All I can do is hope that she knows how important she and all the others who work with the shows is to us all.
I don't like getting personal, but if there is that small chance that any of them read this I just wanted to share this with you; about like two-three years ago I was very lonely, and my head space was not in the right place, but in that same year I also found the SAMS channel, and my heart kinda just made a nest there. Then Lunar and Earth started their own thing and things just felt better. For a while I really thought one of these years was going to be mark the end for me, but these characters, the writing, everything about it made me want to stay a little longerā just until I got to see how it ended, I would tell myself. And now I'm pretty sure I do want to be here long after the curtains fall.
So thank you, if I could say it a million times I would. Thank you for making Earth who she is. Thank you for representing the rest of us girls out there. Thank you for reigniting my love for writing. Thank you for unknowingly raising a young teenager who wants to live thanks to you and a lot of other people (you too Davis and Reed).
To clarify a few things; I am not in any way trying to convince Kat to not quit writing for the shows, I understand her decision and fully support it. I hope to god I didn't make things weird or project myself onto this situation, I really just wanted Kat to know she means a whole lot to us.
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Well, I guess that kudos is sticking around, but honestly, it doesn't change the fact that the work didn't land for me. I wasnāt trying to be mean, just saying what I thought. If you're gonna publish it, fine, but donāt act like it was some sort of high praise. Keep the kudos if you want, but don't expect me to pretend I liked it.
Interpreting my response to your previous ask as acting like it was some sort of high praise is an INSANE failure of reading comprehension.
You absolutely did intend to be mean, you're just upset that I thought your insults were funny instead of taking them to heart.
'But don't expect me to pretend I liked it.' Listen. I need you to stop and think about this for a second. We are complete strangers to one another. I'm not expecting you to pretend you like it. I do not know you. I don't want or crave your regard because, once again, you are a stranger and my only interaction with you thus far has been you sending a rude ask to my tumblr account. Whether you like it or not does not mean anything to me because I do not know anything about you as a person or your personal tastes. I am not a friend or coworker who expects you to put on a good face despite your true opinion.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're very young and haven't yet learnt how to appropriately interact with strangers online, so to recap: this ain't it. That message you sent was one of the cringiest things I've seen in more than 20 years of participating in various online fandoms. You need to reread what you write before you send it and really think about if that's the way you want to represent yourself, even anonymously.
But above all: it's fanfiction. Free gay internet writing. Written by a rando you do not know, and do not have to interact with. Just close your internet browser window and don't think about it again. You're the one who initiated this. You are the one dragging out your association with a fic you do not like. Contacting me twice now about a fic you didn't like is indisputably strange behavior. If you want to participate in fandom spaces without alienating everyone, including writers you do admire, you need to stop doing this sort of thing. The reaction is always going to be, 'What a douche'. Even from people who themselves don't like the fic it was aimed at. Your time in fandom will be far more pleasant if you concentrate your time and attention on the fan creations you DO enjoy, and that is what I recommend you do.
I can't tell you what to do, obviously, but I encourage you not to message me again. I will delete any future responses from you, because frankly, this is not healthy behavior and you need to focus on something that brings you enjoyment instead of getting hung up on a single fic you didn't like. I have disliked and not finished loads of fanfics. I merely close the window I was reading it in and go do something else, and that is what you need to do.
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Honestly, once more I feel some of the fandom really only cared about the shipping and not the actual characters.
Like, seeing people go "Katsuki is going to be pining and alone forever" actually makes me feel insulted on his behalf.
Was Katsuki only an appealing character to some of you because of "pining"? Who said that he was going to be alone forever?
I see people saying so much I'm starting to think it's being secretly manifested because it's what some of you want. I know some folks like that Katsuki angst. Don't you want him happy?
Sooo.... his development wasn't important? Was he only important to you if he and Izuku were together? Am I the only one who is happy that they at least are on talking terms?
Seeing Izuku talking to Ochako isn't enough for me to go "Katsuki is heartbroken forever", I'm sorry. The duo (Izuku and Ochako) are not standing in wedding clothes and exchanging vows.
Was it forgotten that MHA is a popular Shonen? The target audience is geared towards a young male audience, so yeah, we weren't going to get canon BakuDeku and instead Izuku talking with Uraraka.
Which was it is. Talking. Just talking.
Was they not allowed to do that???
Shoot, I needed everyone to talk because they haven't been able to do it!
Who know what's crazy? If Katsuki was the one to advise Izuku to talk to Ochako, that makes me realize that at some point, Izuku and Katsuki did have the talk they needed to get to the point that they're comfortable enough to give the other advice and be close again.
Like "hey, we talked it out, so now it's time you talk it out with her... man, we all need to get it together".
I thought making amends is a present idea in the story. Some of these characters need(ed) to do that. Katsuki and Izuku wasn't the only pair now.
Personally, given the target audience, it would be so funny if Horikoshi was sitting there sketching like "I'm gonna give these two the most 'dap me up' handhold ever". This feels like him going "Fine, I'll give what is wanted but not everything".
Something tells me he didn't even want to have an epilogue.
#horikoshi probably didn't even show that talk because he knows this fandom doesn't deserve it#no no some of you make not being in a fandom fun at all because you just jump to the worst#i get having a criticism like if the development seems off or pacing is a bit rushed#stuff like that#but come on this extreme behavior is wild#for all we know katsuki and izuku are freaking roommates#how can katsuki lose when he pretty much already won?#meanwhile ochako over here is still thinking about another girl and twinning bangs with tsuyu#that talk is probably ochako and izuku going 'oh we're messes but you know what we can clean up let's get to work'#probably won't even have time to even date IZUKU HAS TWO JOBS NOW FOR CRYING OUT LOUD#boom they're all single how about that!#just kiya's thoughts#bnha#mha#boku no hero academia#my hero academia#bnha spoilers#bnha manga spoilers#bakudeku#bnha epilogue#mha epilogue#midoriya izuku#bakugou katsuki
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My interpretations of people in the Life Series, as someone who is a very casual viewer and has no emotional investment in the series and barely knows any of the fandom knowledge below surface level.
Jimmy - stupid. so stupid. he barely has two braincells to rub together. but unfortunately for me i find it adorable. hes also blonde and young and pretty and im a basic idiot who likes young pretty twinks. he also has a really pretty smile. but hes so stupid. he sucks at minecraft. he dies all the time. his editing is also mid.
Joel - my second favourite after Jimmy. did I mention Jimmy's my favourite? no I didn't. im not basic. shut up. Joel is really cool. he's very funny and i love the overly-aggressive persona he puts on, he's one of the people who gets the most into roleplaying (it's basically his default for whenever he's on camera, he has a very defined cc persona that he never breaks out of), so it's easy to get immersed watching him. his editing is also seamless and brilliant. and he has good music taste. just a cool guy. i like the green streak in his mc skin.
Lizzie - usually when people call women quirky, they're being cringe incels who want a manic pixie dream girl. but i swear i mean it in the most sincere, old-fashioned use of the word way when i say Lizzie is quirky and i fucking love it. her aesthetic is cutesy pink kawaii, but the more you watch her the more you realise there's something delightfully strange about her. she's also incredibly fucking funny. the way she delivers lines just cracks me up. the way she speaks and phrases things and approaches the situations she finds herself in in general is awesome. despite her cutesy aesthetic, she's surprisingly tough as well. her editing is also a seamless, immersive delight.
Scott - master manipulator who gets violently mischaracterised by the entire fandom. he's definitely one of the smartest members of the Life Series SMP, he's always planning everything out, he always has a backup plan, he always seems to be three steps ahead. And again, a master of maximising his income of social capital. He's an expert at utilising his connections with the people around him, and always seems to be able to use his relationships to manouvre himself into an advantageous position. i don't understand why people make soft flower husbands art because Scott just seemed like he was taking advantage of Jimmy to me. in fact I dont understand why yall make scott soft in general, he's one of the most ruthless players from what I've seen. bit weird to mischaracterise "the gay one" as the soft guy, no? also why do you draw him as thin when he is chubby. why is his intro so fucking loud.
Bdubs - i have never watched this guy's POV because his editing is bad but he's always appearing in the corner of other player's POVs being adorable. he's like a little bug. he's always yelling and it's so incredibly unthreatening. why is his face all beat up like that what happened to the little guy.
Etho - he's friends with Bdubs and he's Canadian and he lives in the woods and fights moose and he's good at redstone and also some sort of cryptid. i have heard this. i have, however, not watched this because i have ADHD and the way he edits (or rather doesnt edit) his videos is so boring that i cannot watch them for longer than five minutes. which annoyed me because i really like his chill badass vibe and would like to see more of him, but alas. get better at editing etho. i also love the fan designs people make for him very much, especially when they make him into some sort of wolf or beast. makes sense since he's hunting all those moose.
Grian - HOT TAKE HERE. I'm not the biggest fan of Grian. His POVs are not very interesting. I guess people like him so much because he has a mad killer instinct and watching him hunt people down and get kills is fun. And this is true! I also like watching this! However, before it gets to the killing spree part, he's very self-contained and doesn't take much interest in what the people around him are doing (unless he is managing / leading them), which is boring for me because i'm interested in people's interactions with each other. Grian is actually far more interesting from other people's POVs, because from there you can see how his self-contained nature, tendancy to lead and thirst for blood and chaos affect everything around him, something which he himself seems to not notice because he is too focused on only dealing with the stuff that's immediately relevant to him.
Scar - what a charming man. oh my god. holy shit. sir. sir. what the fuck. he's also so funny. and has a little bit of the nature of a wet cat surrounding him. why does he love roleplaying being some form of scam artist so much that he choses to do it literally every single season. its like he cant stop himself. he has a scam artist disease. he also likes Starwars also one time he mentioned that he can't stand on twitter and everyone yelled his name. actually he does stuff that makes people yell his name in shock/exasperation a lot and its like a greek chorus. i also love the way he speaks in his voiceovers, his voice is very smooth.
Pearl - she has wolves apparently. this is a thing that i have heard about that has happened at some point. yes.
Cleo - they speak in a mocking tone and it makes me feel like i am being bullied in secondary school so i do not like them.
Impulse - this person does, in fact, exist, and may have done things at some point.
Geminitay - people draw her with antlers and that is cool
BigB - i have never seen this guy a single time in anyone's POV but apparently he is there! he keeps to the shadows.
Ren - there is a larper in this SMP. which is not a bad thing at all! I love hardcore minecraft roleplay! i am a Dream SMP fan, incidentally. which is related to nothing. The way he roleplays so intensely and in such a distinct style is a bit of a weird clash with the almost zero roleplay from everyone else, though. You have to all be into the roleplay and outputting the same amount of commitment to the bit, or it doesn't work and i just get secondhand embarassment watching. But I appreciate it nonetheless!
Other people who i've forgotten because i dont care about them - they sure do exist and are doing cool things yep
Thank you for reading my useless list, from a "fan" who isn't really invested enough to be a proper fan. I love minecraft men kissing. peace.
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idk if this is something but itās weird
https://x.com/louistmedia/status/1747311267138941382?s=46
oh twitter.. š a tour manager has no say in whether a tour happens or not thatās on the artist, their management and the tour promoter. and believe me tours get cancelled all the time for a multitude of reasons. if thereās an issue theyād just hire another tour manager.
eta: apparently the tweet is private now so hereās a screen cap under the cut
#i get some people in this fandom are young..#but please use your brains#no shade to you anon but no itās definitely not a thing#anon asks#FITF tour asia#touring
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sorry I really don't know how to shut up but I think it's possible that a lot of the takes that are like. "ouagh but they should've stayed together forever what happened to them being family š" are kind of mm. immature? naive? like have you never had a family member move out? have you never had a sibling go off to college? have you never moved away from a best friend? your family doesn't stop being your family if you don't live together. you don't stop loving people if you're not right next to them. I thought this was the "I keep a part of everyone I've ever met with me" website. what happened to the "I learned how to ride a bike from my best friend's dad when I was 7 and we don't talk anymore but I think about her every time I ride one" like. so much of growing up and being an adult is losing people. in every conceivable way. you grow apart, you talk less, you don't visit as much, you move away. that doesn't make them any less important to you. it doesn't make them any less family. it doesn't make the love any less real. something being over doesn't cheapen the fact that it happened. a show ending doesn't make the rest of it not worth watching. "it's a sad song, it's a sad tale it's a tragedy, it's a sad song but we sing it anyway," right?
#idk i havent like checked peoples ages or w/e#but as i grow up in fandom spaces#the more i realize that sometimes people are just young#and i think maybe some of the like. hatred/disappointment of this episode comes from a young point of view#a very idealistic 'we'll be together forever' perspective#WHICH. i mean. was literally addressed diagetically#kitty. who has been called out for being naive and immature and idealistic the whole show.#says 'maybe they'll decide to stay'#and cap. someone who has been a reality check and a voice of reason throughout#says 'they wont kitty'#like. they addressed the fact that it was immature to believe they were always going to stay in the show#i mean...#whatever im just. do you guys really not get the fact that it was always going to be like this?#bbc ghosts#ghosts spoilers#hadestown#for the ref
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I started in DC by reading fanfics, but as I began to read actual comics, I started to be unable to read the actual fanfic that got me into it in the first place because it's so out of character.
But there are still some stories that I love to read because I love the found family trope so much, even if it isn't really accurate to the source material.
As a comics purist (sometimes), are there tropes that you like enough that you'll still enjoy a fic even if it's not accurate to canon?
oh my god this is SUCH a fun question. bc while i started with the comics, there were certain characters and/or character dynamics where i was exposed to the fanon before the canon (just bc it's hard to read everything when you start out just to read some fanfic) and so i've definitely experienced the fanon to canon transition. (*especially* with Jason Todd. i had only read 80s/90s stuff where he was already dead or the New-52 bc that was on-going when i got into comics and man. the fanon misunderstandings i had about him before i got frustrated and sat down to read all his pre-Flashpoint stuff were absolutely bonkers.) and aside from that, whilst i tend to prefer canon over fanon, i'm not past giving fanon its flowers for occasionally having really interesting insights. occasionally. so some of my fanon "guilty pleasure" tropes would probably be
Morally Grey Tim Drake - this is one where if you try to back it up with canon, i *will* get salty about it. of everyone in the Batfam aside from maybe Bruce and Cass, Tim has the *most* black and white morals. often his internal conflicts are routed in such an inability to compromise his moral views and it can cause him to clash with other characters. he's *very* stiff and rigid in his beliefs and is *rare* to compromise in even the smallest ways. i mean, DC has repeatedly used Tim Drake of Tomorrow/Savior/Gun Batman!Tim for a reason. it's to demonstrate that of everyone, Tim *cannot* have his morals compromised. there's no grey area for him. he's zero or a hundred, so if he tips over the edge of "too far" he tips *all the way*, and doing so is one of his worst fears, how he could go "too far" if he let himself. a couple panels out of context from Red Robin (2009) (which was a grief spiral for Tim to begin with) don't change that. now that said. if it's done *right*, i sort of love Tim being morally grey in fanfic. it takes a specific flavor for me, and it's incredibly important to include that mental spiral along with it, of him struggling to justify it. i don't have any interest in "Tim Drake is loosy goosy with Bruce's morals and has the highest kill count and no one knows teehee" bc it doesn't play with the interesting parts of making Tim morally grey, which are fracturing his psyche. but all in all, i think it's fun to put Tim in a morally grey area and i will read it in fanfic and i enjoy writing it a lot
Joker Junior!Tim Drake - i've not written it on this account (yet) but on my main ao3 account one of my biggest fics surrounds this concept. this is one of those "well *technically* it's canon but only in a specific very divorced from the comics universe and would not work at all in the main timeline" so, i categorize it as fanon in that 95% of fics exploring the concept are not doing so within the Batman Beyond universe, but the main timeline. i just love it. I'll take any excuse to whump Tim, but this concept is so fun. psychologically breaking Tim will always be my favorite pastime. there are so many ways to explore the long-term effects this could have on him, how it could affect the Batfam. i'm not a fan of it being used as a "gotcha" to Jason or Babs' trauma with the Joker to paint Tim as the Ultimate Victim, but it is fun to see how their relationships would be affected by being mutual victims of him. (i have a vague JayTim idea where TIm fully retires from being Robin after being Joker Junior and killing the Joker, making Steph Robin for most of his typical Robin era and Jason still tracks him down out of curiosity bc he wants to know what happened and all. very underbaked but i've got thoughts.)
Renegade/Apprentice of Slade!Dick Grayson - this is another one where yes, this happened *sort of* in canon, but i highly doubt most people writing Renegate!Dick have read or are actually pulling from Nightwing: Renegade. it's just an exploration fo the concept fo Dick being Slade's apprentice and i will always eat it up in any capacity. whether Dick grows up with Slade from a young age, or chooses Slade for whatever reason later in life. it's not anything that works in canon bc it compromises Dick morally (similar to the above with Tim) and therefore will always come across incredibly fanon in most fics. but i can't say i don't enjoy it. it's fun to make Dick a little morally fucked up and see what you can make him under Slade's tutelage.
Jason & Damian Meeting in the League -there's no world where i believe this could work in the canon comics. (maybe in the Young Justice cartoon i suppose, but even then i think it's iffy) i would go as far to say it's wildly unrealistic. i don't see a world where Ra's would let Jason anywhere *near* Damian, bc Jason was Talia's pet project that he didn't approve of. that all said, there's something very interesting about how they *could've* met and them potentially bonding during that timeframe. them being somewhat brotherly during this time because Jason sees Bruce in Damian and sort of latches onto the kid and Damian is full of wonder hearing real stories about Batman and Robin, then that getting violently ripped away by Jason leaving the League is fun to me. it's fun how that could affect them within the Batfam and all. it's super fanon to me, but i do not care. i will eat it up
Bad Dad Clark Kent/Good Dad Lex Luthor - i will admit as a late, i've been less and less kind to this particular fanon bc of everything i've argued with people about, *this* one seems the most pervasive as misunderstood fanon. i don't mind when fanon exists, my gripe is when ppl try to claim it's canon. and the *arguments* i've had over this with people who can never seem to cite an actual comic are... frustrating. but that said, i think there is something fun to this strictly in fanon. the duality of who you expect to accept Kon and who you expect to hurt him being flipped is just sort of fun for the occasional guilty pleasure fic. it can make Kon's internal conflict a bit more interesting. the same goes for the Jon favoritism from Clark, it's not a canon thing (and i rlly wish ppl understood how complicated the timeline of Kon and Jon is and any distance from Clark toward Kon isn't malice, it's that Kon is from a timeline that Clark does not remember in the current canon so Clark just straight up doesn't know the poor kid.) but it's sort of fun to give Kon that complex of being overlooked and forgotten sometimes. making Kon just a *bit* more Luthor than Kent will *always* appeal to me in fanfic, especially if he *knows* it's wrong but craves approval from anyone who will give it.
Good Dad Bruce Wayne - i'll die on the hill Bruce is canonically a shitty father. maybe not to the extreme some people write him as, but he's not great at it. that said, i enjoy it in fanfiction. sometimes, i just want silly fluff or hurt/comfort where Bruce finally gets it right and manages to comfort whatever Batkid is in the fic. one of my favorite fics of all time is hinged on Bruce being a good dad, so i think it's just fun to explore how good the relationships *could* be, if Bruce was slightly less of an asshole. i usually prefer him as an asshole, but there are times i want low stakes nonsense.
Gotham Rogues Having Soft Spots for Robin(s) - just about every Rogue in Gotham has done something absolutely irredeemable, and most of them don't like or care about anyone in the Batfamily. but if there's a fic where one of the Robins inexplicably is sort of close with a Rogue and they have a cute silly relationship out of it? I'll eat it up i fear. Steph and the Riddler are besties? I'll believe it. Tim and Scarecrow get along pretty well? give me ten of these. Rogues protecting Robins just hits a spot. the unexpected nature of the relationship, as well as the fact they see each other regularly, can make a lot of good fodder.
#necrotic answerings#canon vs fanon#batfanon#batfamily#I was *going* to include āJanet and Jack Drake are bad parentsā#then realized I don't really like that fanon anymore.#but I used to go *hard* for it even knowing it wasn't canon. it was all projection but still#nowadays I think the tragedy of Tim losing his parents the way he did is *far* worse if they loved him and were good to him.#I'm so serious about the Kon thing i've had *nasty* arguments where ppl got so rude to me telling me to āGoogle itā#like listen I get it. kon's canon backstory is currently difficult to understand#the timeline of the superboy mantle is a little confusing and most people have not read young justice (2019)#so for fanon it's far easier to simplify it as āclark just kinda sucks to konā and i enjoy that#but the canon is also fun. it's fun when you consider how fucked up it is most people don't remember kon#and the timeline he remembers doesn't exist anymore.#also technically since they never killed off new-52!superboy on page there could be two superboys/kon-els running around rn. who knows.#i like to believe there is bc it's funny.#i have wanted to write a new-52!konkon/tim/kon sandwich#with the āis it selfcest or notā question#bc new-52!kon wasn't a clone of clark and lex.#so like. he's arguably a different character just sharing the name kon-el for some reason#also on the nightwing: renegade thing i know *damn* well most fanon-only fans haven't read it (no shade in that)#bc the fanon crowd despises devin grayson and she wrote it.#one day i'll write a meta about fandom treatment of devin grayson trust me.#this question was SO fun#i feel like i should have more answers?#if you'd asked me like six months ago this list would be three times as long#but the more i exist in this fandom somehow the saltier i get idk what's happening#so now i'm more and more attached to canon#but i will never begrudge someone for liking fanon#like i said my issue with it is the confusion of what is canon
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Yeah how about we donāt be this person.
#ship what you ship but for the love of god stop making everything about your ship!!!#this kind of behaviour is why people cringe and groan when a non canon ship is brought up#this is not me shitting on buddie#Iām a buddie shipper 100%#this is me shitting on people who do shit like this and ruin it for the rest of us#this was a post about Chris and his mum .. NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDDIE!!!#wtf some of yāall need to fucking chill and back off#sorry .. seeing this just really annoyed me#fandom#buddie#911 abc#I get the poster could be young and not know better#but ahhhh it irks me
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I enjoy shipping, but I cannot see the appeal in watching shows only for the purpose of shipping; I think it closes you off to so much. I think coming into a work with the expectation that it will only succeed if a particular configuration of people end up happily in a relationship with each other when the curtain closes means you will reject so many unexpected choices altogether. It destroys your ability to appreciate the entire concept of tragedy. Just, imagine refusing to let yourself enjoy "I'm not a gardener" because you are too furious that a different kiss than the one you wanted happened to feel other emotions.
#does shipping above all make you less empathetic: I deadass think it does: an ongoing investigation by m utilitycaster#this alludes to candela bc i'm still thinking about how good that line is and how (thankfully only a couple) people ignored it#bc they were so mad that the horror show was a tragedy and that marion kissed jean instead#i suspect though that this is behind the viciousness of the c2 ships. people genuinely used the word betrayal for a thing never promised#and some of the extremely mean-spirited nature of some c3 shipping; even among ships where i see the appeal#like i am not against shipping. i like shipping. but if you define I Get My Ship as success you will be miserable and bitter so often#and i think this ALSO is why like. 19 year olds will act like they are a veteran of years of queerbaiting.#when in fact they're a veteran of watching shows bc they saw one (1) out of context gifset and thought that was a guarantee#anyway i've cracked it follow for more analysis of the nature of fandom and how it should probably be like car rentals#fandom old? no. fandom young. go get some life experience and perspective first. the trekkie housewives never missed.
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Another thing I need pjsk fandom to realize:
1) there are literal 10 years old (and younger) children in this fandom;
2) the percentage of these children in the fandom is MUCH, MUCH higher than every single one of you here on tumbrl think it is.
"why do people write so much for popular characters?" "why do people write for kudos only?" aside from the fact that the "write for yourself" is a self-perpetuating issue in every fandom and the fact that every writer deserves engagement with their works, it's because there are kids here. Who want to fit in and get praised for their creativity. Which they can only achieve by writing for popular stuff. So maybe take that into account.
#jay rambles.txt#I've met so many kids who have no business knowing that pjsk is considering the Themes it deals with know what pjsk is#and if you want to argue this game is a) a scummy gacha game b) too grim for a lot of them - sure. did that stop YOU for being in#fandoms you shouldn't have been in when you were 12?#yeah I didn't think so. this is very normal and will continue being normal#seeing as the spaces for young kids on the internet have all but been destroyed by every factor imaginable#of course they're not interested in nuance and detailed characterisation as well. they are kids. were you media literate at 10 when you've#just discovered fandoms? like actually? at like 10? cmon now. give them some grace#sometimes when you see another run of the mill poor grammar and no formatting cliche yaoi fic of your otp I need you to stop and think#'wait a minute. is there a non-zero probability this is written by a 10 year old who just found out what fanfic is?' before you get mad#and then just close the tab and move on with your life. as god intended#'why is this misconception so popular!!' because 80% of the 'rui is a cannibal' people are edgy 13 years old who just Do This Shit. peace.#jay with the unpopular takes again hoo boy
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Once again incredibly grateful that in November last year after watching Young Royals season 1 for the first time, I opened Tumblr instead of Twitter. (And thank you again for you @simonsapelsin for @young-royals-confessions) š«¶š½š«¶š½š«¶š½šššš
#After taking a look at what's happening on twitter I'm glad all I get here are some random anonymous haters š«°š½#Young Royals fandom#I don't understand why some people are so mean to each other š©
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I see so much of the atla fandom saying that āsokka died youngāā¦NO?? WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GETTING THIS?? HE LIVED PAST AANG, WHO DIED AT 66?? HE HELPED ZUKO AND TONRAQ FIGHT AGAINST THE RED LOTUSā¦WHICH WAS WHEN KORRA WAS ALIVE?? AN ACCURATE ASSUMPTION OF WHAT AGE HE DIED IS LIKEā¦EARLY 70S?? THATS NOT YOUNG??
#Sorry but I need to educate some of this fandom#LIKE WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS#I SEE SO MANY COMMENTS ON PINTEREST THAT ARE LIKE#āToo bad sokka died young ššā#LIKE NO??#HE DIDNT??#WHAT??#Anyways i hc that sokka died WHILE fighting the red lotus#Which is likeā¦kinda sad considering that zuko would have literally WATCHED HIM DIE.#Also im kinda confused on people saying suki dying young too?#Like great! Angst!#But whats your source? š#Sokka#atla#tlok#zuko#the red lotus
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I just think the fandomās nastier responses to the bg3 men is wildly interesting
like. you have three men who are coming out of highly unhealthy relationships.
One of them gets super sexualized and infantilized at the exact same time. literally people put him in the bdsm harness while simultaneously misinterpreting elven cultural norms to say heās mentally no more mature than a teenager despite having been a whole-ass local judge who died because he gave out corrupt rulings and got his ass jumped because of them.
the other gets treated like heās an incel because he catches feelings quickly, despite being wildly respectful when you turn him down. Half the issues were due to a bug, the other is that this man is so starved for validation because his goddess - whom has paid special interest to him since he was a toddler - kept him constantly feeling lesser-than because despite calling him her Chosen, she gives him none of the power we see Chosens be given by other gods. Not to mention she sends her other ex - his mentor and friend - to tell him to off himself to earn her forgiveness. For some reason his attempts to gain god-like power are received worse than the borm-sexy-yesterday-vampire despite both of them having the goal of being safe from manipulation and control. I assume because the vampire gets a sex scene when you let him destroy his soul for power and the wizard does not.
The fairytale prince route, despite typically being very popular, is being called boring and dull and while, yes, he has less drama than some of the others, is still compelling and has high stakes for that character. Heās sold his soul but he thinks the price is worth it and heās made his peace with the personal cost because heās helping people. The only real difference between this character and others who are willing to sell their souls for the good of their lands is that this time around, heās Black
#bg3#baldurās gate 3#fandom critical#I guess?#like Wyllās shit seems to genuinely be people are racist and not realizing or caring to realize#heās a delight! he wants to dance with you! heās a sweetheart going by the fairytale chivalric code#meanwhile heās literally made a deal with a devil to make the princely thing happen#itās good! heās the vanilla ice cream route and itās very lovely#literally his route is so similar to Alistair in the choices to give up your life for the world#I love astarion and he is in fact very sexy#and he likes sex when he has the final say in whether itās happening#but that damn tombstone has some people acting creepy as fuck#yes itās sad how young he was but he was also a whole adult man when he died#and Galeā¦ you can argue very easily he was groomed#and even if he wasnāt - this man has isolated himself for a /year/ trying not to hurt anyone#yeah heās gonna get attached to the first people he gets to hang with#heās hurt when you turn him down but heās not a dick#then he becomes your ride-or-die#heās a sweetheart#Halsin has his own shit going but he seems to a companion solely because people thirsted so hard#but heās also worked through his shit and is decently mentally stable#not letting ppl reblog this because I donāt need people acting a fool on my post
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