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deeppenguinstudent · 24 days ago
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the reason why kevjean is so toxic is not because Kevin left behind Jean, it's because Jean has placed Kevin on some sort of godly pedestal and despite himself goes out of his way to defend Kevin even if Kevin doesn't need it. The reason why kevjean would be toxic is because they would relapse into that sickly co-dependent raven partner system where they can barely leave eachothers side. The reason why kevjean is toxic is precisely because Jean would have done anything for Kevin despite not being in a relationship with him – imagine how much of himself he'd sacrifice for Kevin if they do start dating. The reason why kevjean is so toxic is because Kevin isn't able to give Jean what he needs/deserves. Kevin can't be like Jeremy or Renee. He's not patient like them. He can barely understand his own emotions and chooses to drown his problems with alcohol despite himself – something that would definitely cause a lot of fights between them. The reason kevjean is toxic is because Jean has this misconception that Kevin can fix him because it's Kevin. When he realises not even kevin can erase the mental scars left by the backliners, he would be inconsolable because how could he hate the touch of a man he used to crave so desperately.
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ssoulttofu · 18 days ago
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Do y’all ever worry that you might be infantilizing yourself? People all ways talk about the way neurodivergent people get infantilized by others and it brings up a deep seated fear I have that I might be doing it to myself. Whenever i engage in my interests, I get worried I am babying myself. Like my mom gave me a gift card for Christmas and I bought a tea pot and a monster high doll. For some reason I felt great shame getting the doll I wanted and felt icky while at checkout? Can a neurodivergent person really even baby themselves not on purpose or this shame I feel indulging in my interests (which have been deemed childish in nature) just one of my insecurities that I haven’t recognized yet?
Anyway, the conversation happening about people infantilizing and greatly miss interpreting Amir’s character got me thinking. I have totally seen people casting Amir as a uWu smol boi and it kinda bothers me but at the same time I feel it’s just people misinterpreting his character based on base knowledge you learn about him and his hyper personality. Once you actually get to know him there is alot more to him than that. I kinda wanna see more interpretations in fics and art of that side of his character. Also if you ship Quincy and Amir you can suck my dick.
The only Amir and Quincy fics I can find is of people shipping them together which drives me fucking crazy. Like? They are basically brothers, Amir and Quincy both have voice lines and talk about being brothers. Ship who you want, I am not gonna tell y’all what to do, but like can we get some good brother fics or something? Ik that’s a lot to ask but like plz I am begging someone to write a found family Hex fic where Amir and Quincy aren’t fucking.
Anyway, this post is not coherent and I apologize for that. I am just rambling and needed to get this out to someone. The miss characterization of the Hex is something that has been racking at my brain and I wanna see more discussion around it. It’s not crazy important or anything but I love having conversations like that and would love to hear y’all’s opinions.
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greasedglizzy · 26 days ago
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Bridgerton Rant
Old topic, but the online discourse between Eloise and Penelope's relationship will never fail to irritate me for a number of reasons, but mainly because of the popular opinion that "Eloise was always jealous of penelope's success etc" or "Eloise was a bad friend and never cared about pen's wants."
I disagree with this take specifically because of this Singular scene. The Garden Scene in Season 2.
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The previous scene of them before this was Eloise defending Penelope against Cressida's insult. Then afterwards, they leave the ballroom together to which they end up in the garden. Away from all eyes and ears. The conversation they have here is one of the most vulnerable and raw things I've ever seen, which to me makes their relationship feel all the more truer.
But it also reveals the limiters within their dynamic that I think alot of people miss.
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Eloise dismisses Cressida Cowper's insult towards Penelope, while also discussing her distaste for the event entirely.
"It is all of them. Staring at me like I'm some fine China teapot. How do you do it on your own, Pen?"
At the end of her sentence here, she blindly includes Penelope, completely unaware of Pen's position being indirectly rejected by the Ton because of her features and family.
Pen reminds her of the "Wallflower" persona, to which Eloise cannot see. But Penelope, instead of complaining about the insult, reclaims and embodies it within her next dialogue.
"It's not so bad, you know. The Wallflower thing."
She starts listing off the benefits of her position rather than discussing her discomfort in the weight of rejection.
It feels bittersweet seeing her empathize with her involuntary non conformaty, even though we as viewers sees how hard it weighs on the character. But that's not the entire point of this dialogue. What really sells it to me is while she's listing off what the wall allows her to see, Eloise looks to her with a attentive expression before saying:
"You've been keeping it from me."
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IMMEDIATELY, Pen displays shock. Misinterpreting this as Eloise figuring out she is Whistledown.
(Its revealed at the end of s1 that she's whistledown at this time so we automatically know this is her thought process.)
But to our surprise, Eloise is talking about something else. Which is Penelope's love for the regency scene of ballrooms, suitors, romance, etc.
But the real hit of this scene is what Eloise offers in this next round of dialogue. She's says:
"You do not have to pretend any longer, Pen.
You like all of this."
This line delivery is one of the most raw and expressive portrayals in media I've ever seen, Claudia Jessie you will always be famous.
To me, What hits so hard about this line is the implications behind what Eloise is offering and providing to Pen. A safe space.
There is also alot of online discourse about Eloise's character not being a "girl's girl" and shunning other women for their tastes in the regency standards and traditions for women at the time, but to me, what Eloise says in this scene somewhat combats that take. (A little bit)
Instead of berating Penelope for her interest in these events (that Eloise is always badmouthing and displaying her clear disinterest towards), She tells penelope she does not have to hide any longer from her.
In a way, this kinda feels like a hidden stone of Eloise's character that is not appreciated enough within the takes on her character. Her vulnerability and the Empathy that she has for those closest to her. You see her demonstrate this ability to provide a safe space when she's with Benedict on the swings, away from all eyes and ears.
In response to her "not being a girls girl", I don't think she has an active distaste for women in general. Her problems are with the standards and expectations implaced upon women and how society reduces women during that age to the skills they gain to attract a man, their submission to men, and their expected ability to reproduce
"Like Chattels and Breeding Stock" - Kate Sharma.
But there are times when Eloise's distaste for these standards end up reflecting onto the women around her but I really don't think that is her intention. In fact, she doesn't just refer to herself whenever she boasts about feminist ideals. She speaks of liberation for women in general.
She defends women when she has to dance with that guy Violet sets her up with at that ball.
"Maybe try not to insult her entire sex in the process."
And she is genuinely excited when visiting the Radical Rally for the first time and seeing a woman leading its debate. Though, I see this fails to translate in her scenes with societal women. Another fault of her character is her inability to remain in touch with the world around her.
(But that's why her ending line in s3 makes me believe her development in that aspect is arriving soon. "I cannot change the world without seeing more of it.")
But anyways!
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Referring Back to her and Pen's dynamic and Eloise's realization of Pen's interest in the ton. I'm aware that this can also be easily tossed out the window because "Well that's the bare minimum! She should've noticed sooner!"
True, but then her character would have no faults. Scenes like this show she is capable of nuance and growth, as well as comfort and understanding. It makes her character humane.
But these scenes aren't nearly as recognized as her louder scenes, which only occur when she is put in a space where she is actively vulnerable to being judged or perceived. And how does she want to be perceived in this world?
A person existing outside the standard. A independent woman capable of holding her own in a society that prevent the culmination of the ideals she clings to.
Anyways, returning back to the main point of this rant.
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Penelope is relieved for a moment after Eloise reveals the context behind that statement. And for a moment, you believe the scene will carry on with Pen admitting her deep passion for these traditions and continuing a healthy conversation of back and forth internal sharing between friends!
But Penelope does not do this.
Not entirely anyway. Instead, she sort of brushes off Eloise's offer.
"Well, It can be amusing."
Is all she says in response to Eloise's words before immediately changing the subject to Eloise's fading interest in lady whistledown.
To me, this immediate switch came off as a shock to me. Upon rewatching, I realized that this moment was different. It wasn't just her erasing suspicion of her connection to being whistledown. This was Penelope putting a wall up, portraying a gap within their relationship.
Because as Eloise is loudmouthed, opinionated, and talkative within their dynamic, Penelope is the opposite. Closed off, minimally responsive, and withdrawn.
This dynamic was never going to hold because there was a deep imbalance between the knowledge being shared within their bond.
THIS is why their argument at the end of s2 had nothing to do with Jealousy. It was a wake up call to Eloise that there was a whole withdrawn bank of knowledge about the person who she considered her closest friend, and her not knowing enough about her friend is what essentially led to their downfall.
Not because she never tried to know pen, but because she thought she did know pen. Everything she knew about Pen was what Penelope ALLOWED her to know and have access to.
She thought they had mutual trust built up over years of friendship. Trust so strong, that Penelope was the ONLY person she told about Theo.
Not even Benedict knew about Theo. AND THATS HER BROTHER.
There mightve been maybe some Jealousy later on, I don't really see that, but if it were to be, it was not in that room or that moment. That argument was all about heartbreak. Not just between her and Theo, but her and Penelope.
NOW, when I say this, I am not saying Penelope is some evil mastermind with a pension for deceit. Her decision to not tell Eloise about certain aspects of her life doesn't make her a bad person, but it does make you question the stability of her friendship.
But, She has a plethora of reasons as to why she has to keep herself withdrawn. Not only that, but the household she grew up in I'd argue is a direct causation of her tendency to withdraw information in all her relationships. That and because the independence of her having her own hobby, source of income, and uninflueced persona provides her with a level of agency that society could never provide for her.
But mainpoint I'm trying to say here, is that
1. Eloise is capable of displaying care for her friend's interests and can work to understand the value of those interests even if they do not align with her own, as portrayed in the garden.
And 2. Eloise is not jealous of pen's success and that their argument was a stepping stone to her development as a character and how the demonstration of heartbreak amongst her connections builds that development.
I really wanna decode more of the Garden scene, because it's way more emotional passed these few lines of dialogue, especially Eloise's admittance of her fears and internal Insecurity towards being a disappointment and Penelope's admittance towards liking the buzz of gossip and the opportunities the wall allows her.
But I'm really tired so tomorrow.
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pinkmoonastro · 2 years ago
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Jupiter through the houses Pt 1
Jupiter in the 1st- Drama. They love the drama. I actually have Jupiter in my first and i love reality shows lmao i like seeing ppl fight but I dont like drama in my own personal life no thank you. This placement is also dramatic. They may lie on accident and really believe what they said. They have extra luck when it comes to the law. More grace is given to them than others.
Jupiter in the 2nd- These people break family traditions. Their the black sheep and probably argue with their family members a lot. Their very hesitant when it comes to decision making. They overextend their hand to people quite often opening their homes and wallets up, welcoming people with open arms and being taken advantage of because of that.
Jupiter in the 3rd- A lot of connections are made in this house. These people love networking and are pretty good at it. They make friends easily wherever they go. They have tendencies to be wishful thinkers and see the best in people when the red flags are very much present. They lose themselves into relationships. Usually feeling like they've taken a loss and have rebuild after it ends. They repress alot of their feelings and ignore their inner voice.
Jupiter in the 4th- The upbringing really enforced responsibility and made these people become very structured. They dont play about their deadlines. Their gonna make sure they get shit done even if that means completely ignoring their own needs. People misinterpreted them alot from first impressions. These are the type of people that surprise you once you start talking to them. They make a lot of rivals too rather its people competing with them career wise or in their love life. Competing is always happening in their life sometimes they probably dont even know.
Jupiter in the 5th- Magnetizing ASF they dont even have to speak and people will want to know them. Their aura is commanding. They sneaky as hell tho and really analyze the things you say. They might have to use this to manipulate you one day lol. Friendships are very important to them. They really understand the value of building relationships but dont get it twisted they dont mind burning bridges neither. Once they direct their desire and intention in the proper direction they are really good at manifesting because alot of the times the connections are already their.
Jupiter in the 6th- They like to have a bunch of eggs in the basket career wise but they will overwork themselves and completely neglect their health. Creating a stable routing is a challenge but they are very resilient. These people can handle failures and reject easier than alot of others and keep it pushing. Jupiter in the 6th reminds me of a Gemini one foot in one foot out and moody as hell. They can be unpredictable and have zero regard for consequences.
-Luv of marz bbbbbyyyy
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bibibbon · 4 months ago
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if we're talking personality disorders (of the cluster b variety). obvi its not 1=1 but its far more likely and reasonable to say toga has bpd (with izuku or ochako being her "favorite person") than aspd. also when people call villains (or characters they don't like (← seen this one more than the first tbh)) "unsympathetic psychopaths", it really feels like they know nothing about aspd, personality disorders, and how they form. It also just feels kind of ableist towards real people with aspd? idk maybe i'm seeing things that's aren't there
These people know that aspd (and other personality disorders) form due to outside factors right? obvi there's the genetic factors but that just increases the possibility. these outside factors typically tends to be factors that is in some way traumatic for the person in question like emotional/mental abuse or neglect (*gestures to dabi*)
if anything, based off of that alone, toga being a "psychopath" just makes her more sympathetic in my eyes and people around her even more unsympathetic than they already are and I doubt anyone calling her a "psychopath" without aspd in mind wants that
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this is also how i feel about people needless throwing around the word "narcissistic"* when it comes describing bakugo. (saying this as someone isn't a fan of him). bakugo with npd** could make him a more interesting if written correctly*** tbh and could probably be backed up in canon but in turn it would force people to seriously think and question if he actually had a good childhood and good parents… which from what i've seen alot of anti-bakugo people (including the ones that call him a "narcissistic") believe he has
*i'm sure there's bakugo stans out there call him "narcissistic" without npd in mind but atm i've only seen bakugo antis do that
**same with aspd
***without portraying bakugo as an ableist stereotype and/or excusing his actions
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sorry abt the rant i'm just tired of the demonization surrounding personality disorders
You're definitely correct anon in saying that people tend to use words they either don't know the full meaning of or just mental health issues to demonise characters they don't like and this is a problem within all fandoms I have interacted with not only MHA.
When people use the words "psychopath" or "narcissist" it's rare to see them using it in the right context as most of the time it's used to demonise a character. For example take atla I have seen plenty of people label azula a psychopath but they do that to demonise and dehumanise her not to actually say that she is mentally ill. The same thing is done with characters like toga, Dabi, shigaraki and more!
Now I know that you're mainly quoting of the ask that @sapphic-agent sent me and actually she has made it clear that she doesn't view toga as psychopath and actually brought light to the issue of people dehumanising and purposefully misinterpreting the leauge. Now I don't know much about aspd in general but from what I have seen toga does seem to have some symptoms of aspd but it also makes sense to speculate that she may have BPD (none of this is cannonically confirmed but they would make for some interesting headcanons). Also like you mentioned it would be incredibly interesting to explore how toga got to such a mental state in the first place as mental health issues can happen to a variety of reasons for example or could be an environmental or social issue as we see that toga wasn't given the right support at home and was taught to simply build a mask and burry her urges deep down until it all broke and she broke, toga associated blood and cannibalism with love and self expression from early on. Also, it could be a biological factor since toga was born with a strong fascination for blood.
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Overall, toga and her mental state is heavily influenced from all of those factors and it would be interesting if she was cannoncially diagnosed and had that be explored in depth.
However, mha does already have a character who is heavily implied to be mentally ill which is twice. Twice is heavily implied within the show to suffer from DID (dissociative identity disorder) and I think the way horikoshi presents this is really interesting it's to the point that it's incredibly integral to twice's character whether that be his name or what his quirk is.
We see exactly how his mental state worsens in his backstory and how he has reached his breaking point multiple times. Twice is also presented as the most redeemable of the leauge and we see that even with that the system doesn't care for him as twice mercilessly kills him even though he had a high and good chance of being saved and redeemed.
I do wish that hori spent a bit more time delving deeper into twice and developing him before killing him off while also making his death have a long lasting impact between characters (specifically the league)
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I think what's interesting is that hori doesn't demonise jin for his mental issues but addresses them in a serious manner and a lot of the scenes where we do see him struggling we are able to feel a lot of sympathy for him.
This ends up being the exact opposite of what people usually do by demonising mental health and using it to dehumanise characters. Horikoshi uses it to humanise his characters whether that be twice who struggles with DID or tamaki who struggles with social anxiety. These issues are brought to light and aren't a one time thing but it's something that's integral to their character.
Now, moving onto my final comment : yep it's bakugo!
I admit that I have seen many bakugo antis and critiques label bakugo as a narcissist. I also believe that they don't inherently speak of the mental disorder when labeling him in such a way but use the word in exchange of other terms for bakugo like self 'absorbed' or 'selfish' or 'only cares for himself' etc.
Now, I agree this is bad and shouldn't be done. I do however want to offer my own view on this subject (iam also a big bakugo critic/anti) I personally don't think that bakugo suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder and I don't think that mitsuki is abusive towards her son.
I think that the scene with mitsuki hitting bakugo was played in a comedic light. This is the only scene we see mitsuki act aggressive towards bakugo in the whole manga while in the other scene she expresses concern over her son (for example katsuki doesn't like rain etc). I think @delawaredetroit post surrounding this has the best explanation
I also want to add the fact that bakugo feels comfortable enough to sit next his mother. He is right in between his parents (he could of sat away from her closer to his father if he wanted to but he didnt). Bakugo also feels comfortable enough to express himself in such a manner whether that be him calling his mother "hag" or also shouting at her when he is equally pissed off.
I do think that because the manga had already made it clear that abuse was a theme that was in the story and gave us an example of abuse (the todoroki family) that many did raise their heads at this scene and may of been concerned that this is abuse when it's not but its hard to spot since it's being presented in such a weird manner.
You do have a point bakugo's behaviour comes from somewhere and that's not talked about enough. I personally think that horikoshi didn't explore how society influenced bakugo's behaviour and his raging quirkless discrimation (maybe it's because hori didn't want to paint bakugo in such a bad light so he didn't make him prejudiced against the quirkless and didn't explore the theme of quirkless discirmation that he implemented into the story). There is also the superiority and inferiority complexes that bakugo seems to have that could be a result of a mixture of factors (biological, social and environmental) Now his brash behaviour could come biologically from his mother and it turned worse due to his environment where he was built up to be this guy who had everything so he should be happy as he fits into the status quo.
Tldr: mental health shouldn't be used as an excuse but it also shouldn't be used to demonise characters either.
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anonymouscheeses · 8 months ago
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*sigh* its too early for this shit you guys...
Context: in out for love Carmilla says "fuel your fear of losing that somebody who's your REASON to LIVE" which is pretty much just confirmation of suicidal Vaggie....
*sigh* looks like I'm gonna have to make chaggie angst oh boohoo whatever shall I do! /h 😔😔
But srsly this isn't too big of a surprise ngl. I think people misinterpret Vaggie's character so much, like yeah no kidding her being "just Charlie's girlfriend" is kinda the point. No I'm not saying it excuses Vaggie's writing, i have my own problems with it, but people don't think of the reason she is at all? Like. Charlie kind of saved vaggie from dying bruv, she's the only person vaggie trusted enough and who showed her genuine kindness. And ykno all the other exorcist stuff impacted Vaggie and her mannerisms. Adam is like the big daddy of the exorcist (💀) and they were specifically created TO BE killing machines. They likely depended on Adam alot since that was the only reason they were created, plus Adam is a freak so he probably used them as some sort of source for his own 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 pleasure... so yeah. No wonder Vaggie is suicidal, she doesn't see worth in her if she's not of use. I can feel that on a personal level and it kinda makes me pissed when people in hazbin rants dont mention that... not their fault tho ofc I just wish more people understood
She went from one person (Adam) to depend on and then another, Charlie.
Sorry for the not well put together rant, you can add some stuff you wanna say if u want. I did this in class so I'm kinda rushing it out 😭
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ridhistory21 · 8 months ago
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Trailer analysis & helaemond theory-
I am sharing my whole trailer reaction after seeing everyone's opinion on Twitter and Tumblr so read fully before misinterpreting-
firstly lemme clearify that these two pics are not from same scenario. These two are quite different
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this girl is not the one in left pic. Scenes are very much different. It's clear she's only in episode 1 as dancer, she is not Alys rivers or anyone else bc I saw many people claiming this stupid theory. This actress kika green already announced this.
Now this pic is very much gives vibes of aemma arryn as she was about to have a small comeback in s2 and this women gives Aemma more than Rhaenyra or Helaena and I seriously don't think this scene is supposed to be some hot sex scene.
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It's very much Viserys & Aemma in someone's vision or dream. It can be anyone's vision or dream though whether it's deamon, Rhaenyra or Helaena.
Either it's deamon or someone else old checking on Rhaenyra whether she's fine or not. Or
Lemme prepare myself for worse😭 that it can be blood touching Helaena ( least expected but show runners said it's going to be worse and why least as girl in this looks more Aemma/Rhaenyra than Helaena in ep2 from pics)
I am not a top helaemond shipper, I like Rhaemond more than alysmond and Helaemond but 👀👀👀👀 there are very very slight chance for helaemond just trying to catch the dots from S1 & s2. -
Now again these two can be or very can be not from same scene, I am tired people thinking all these pics are from same scenes as they don't seem to, though they can be🤷🏻‍♀️
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this pic of aemond lying in lap of someone can be very much brothel madame as people claim that mark on hands, yes my first reaction was this it has to be her but are we sure that she's the one going to fuck Aemond episode 1 or any other episode as that actress is there for 4 episodes in s2 and this scene can be very much from any episode
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this is all what that brothel lady actress Michelle bonnard said about her role in s2 - " But more recently two amazing women, directing on the same series #HouseoftheDragons - the brilliant @clarekilner and @geetavpatel - and working with them, I thought fuck me - I love what these women do... and I got a bit naked. How do I feel about that? Who knows? But I had power, because the world is changing. ". She only said that she got bit naked now that means if -
she is going to have hard core sex with Aemond and Aemond is actually a milf lover
Or she is just warming up Aemond with affection and love who might not be in good mood
or ...... another theory is that is she going to have that kinda scene with only Aemond or someone else because -----
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This actor Kieran bew is playing hugh hammer a dragonseed is also gonna be pervert who might be seen in silk Street and she posted alot of pics with him so....🤷🏻‍♀️
If she is for 4 or 5 episodes there then there are many chances to see this actress in alot of scenes of brothel. So that scene with Aemond can be with her in any episode or slight chance that there can be someone else.
Only slight chance why because that hand can belong to anyone, that vein or scar is not giving any extreme clue. Though I very much think it's gonna be that lady anyhow but how it's gonna happen we don't know.
Now why helaemond because just see-
That girl kika green is going to play in episode 1 as dancer and that's only possible for aegon's party for Aemond in cock inn on killing luc and it' almost confirmed that first episode we are going to see them celebrating and it's Aegon so whores are going to be there, him giving Aemond whores to fuck as a gift is very much Aegon thing.
Now my earlier thought was that this new girl is for aegon to get distracted, a plan by mysaria. That's the reason Aegon would be so pathetic as he fucked a random girl instead of staying with his wife and his kids that night. This is what my thought is.
But also they are showing her as such mystery and my question is ---
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that why it was specific white haired girl or Valerian blood girl required for aegon because
as we know Aegon in book and show both alot, he is not the one to have valerian girl fantasy. He likes & fucks anyone. Also in the show they said 'his is less discriminating' and he doesn't even like Helaena as lover at all😭,he would fuck any random person any time
so why this white haired girl was bought for aegon or mysaria thought that he is a targ so he might like targ girls also but don't mysaria knows aegon's doing very well ? If we remember S1 ?
now only person who is fond of fucking white haired girls is Daemon and else who--
Now what if Aegon got this girl as gift for Aemond to fuck as Aegon knows Aemond very well and what he likes - what my theory is that initially Aemond is gonna hesitate to celebrate with whores but when Aegon and mysaria present this targ girl infront of him then👀👁️👁️ we might see some action from him. She keeps up Aemond busy. This might led to path that -
Aemond loves to be someone who looks more targ or looks more like Helaena. Just connect the dots now.... Because what was this by hbo itself when shared their pic with all couples ,what was this fr. It really looked sus..... I wasn't a helaemond shipper at all--
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I am not saying Helaena's children are of Aemond but aemond might have desire for Helaena or to be with someone like Helaena.
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And this girl was really supposed to be helaena from S1😶. So just connect the dots, there are slight chances for helaemond and yes scene with Aemond can be different episodes. My ass connecting all dots but I know in show it might be different.
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imactuallysoup · 8 months ago
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I SEE YOU TAGGED SAYING YOU GOT JERVIS HEADCANNONS!!! I WANNA SEE THEM!!!!
JJAJSJSJJA THIS MADE ME HAPPY TO SEE SOMEONE CARES TO KNOW
i got a few headcanons to share for you since you asked, they've been in my head all day :>
I feel like he would prefer classical music above all else and the background music similar to like old Disney movies from the forties or fifties. Maybe jazz
I've already said it but he would definitely play chess by himself if no else was around to play him. Furthermore, he would be really good at chess, its one of the things hes always loved to play since he was a child
he would give some people nicknames from Alice in wonderland characters. Edward would be the doormouse and Jonathan's would be the March hare or just hare for short.
Hes definitely memorized every single line in the Lewis Carroll's Alice's adventures in wonderland book. Does this even count as a headcanon??
He definitely prefers tea if nothing else and absolutely despises coffee
its Canon is other areas of the character and some don't mention it at all but to me he will always be British. Born in England and moved to Gotham, does this even count as a headcanon? Idk
i feel like he would have trouble falling asleep and stays up way too late to be healthy at times
i feel like he likes to speak in an old English way or use obscure words at times, maybe use some old British slang as well who knows. Point is he usually talks proper you know?
despite not really being someone to go out of their way to insult people, being outwardly mean or try to pull stunts like probably any of the other rogues, he would be sarcastic at times if he was peeved enough at someone. He might be pretty good at quick quips or backhanded insults ontop of being outwardly sarcastic if he was frustrated or annoyed enough at someone, in a bad mood he should very much as well be blunt, sharp and cold. giving brief responses and such if he truly doesn't want to talk to you
i feel like he would be hard to make truly angry enough to go of his way to do anything to the other person, but if your lucky, the man probably doesn't hold anything back if he is angry. Otherwise if you've angered him enough he might as well slip a card onto you as revenge for pissing him off
Idk hes really just my favorite to think about. He definitely does talk to himself alot aswell, probably enjoys dancing, he probably also gets lonely quick without anyone and subtly gets attached to people. He probably might even call some rouges his friends when the other would definitely deny it, saying he's misinterpreting their connection together. That would be pretty funny. I feel like he would absolutely hate therapy at the asylum and hate people trying to fix him. Though, I feel like he would be a much better person to be around when medicated and subdued, possibly even pleasant.
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anyway thanks for asking, enjoy this little hatter doodle I made just for this :))
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lunarleonardo · 30 days ago
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Oh my god. I apologize in advance for the incoming rant but oh my god i HAVE to.
Literally YESTERDAY i was thinking about how horrible but awesome it would be for him to get like cuddled by the mastermind bc likeee false sense of secuirty type shift and then the mean act comes back in that manipulative-brainwashing way she does it I DONT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT BUT ANYWAS. I open ao3 and my prayers have been ANSWERED. Bonus points for how AGGRESIVE she was with him while still playing nice and his POV is sooooo so fun to read CHFJFJJFJD this made more sense in my mind then it does written out but whateva u get the point :3 I also quite literally screamed in lowercase when she offered him another cake bc oh my god that is FOUL. Tsumugi has absolutely NO limits and we love her for that ❤️ As someone who used to have severe emetophobia (it got better now !!) I can only imagine how HORRIBLE that must have been and then CLEANING IT?!?!? Goossshhh i love this sooo so so muchhhh !! This parts kinda hard to explain but I like how some things only get mentioned like him cleaning that, the bucket and those type of things bc it would just be unnecesary to write more about it but it really adds alot to Tsumugis character and changing his clothes while hes sleeping ooooohh my humiliation-lover senses are tingling SHDHDH Also Shuichi getting all shy when maki thought he was snooping made me giggle oooh i love him sm <3
Aaaannyyywaaays i overall just LOVE hgh so far i swear your writing just keeps on getting better and better ˚ʚ♡ɞ˚
FORCED CLOSE PROXIMITY!!! I LOOOVE that trope so much. You can definitely expect more of it in future chapters ;D
Yeah I,, was not too enthused by the idea of writing that. Just the phantom feeling of it on my hands made me nauseous irl :'3 gotta love us some dissociation right
Im SO GLAD i found another humiliation trope lover!! My target audience!! (*^▽^)/★*☆♪ Literally my favorite trope ever but some things for it are SO EASILY misinterpreted as kink Q_Q probably because it is to some people but NOT TO ME!!! Make that whumpee feel SHAME and EMBARRASSMENT and make it HURT!! >:D
Thank you so so much for long asks like this witb your thoughts i really appreciate them゜゜(´O`)°゜ i love seeing peoples thoughts and reactions to things it's so great
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klowncrunch · 8 months ago
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"it's a comedy show"
This is a dumb take. Fight me in a parking lot have you no whimsy in your life. People analyze and criticize Brooklyn 99, the office, it's always sunny. You know why? Because it's public domain!!! Literally everyone is free to criticize them and if you don't like it idk touch grass?
I've been seeing this take around alot and I can't help but feel like it just will never make sense. Like you can't go on and on about media literacy and then LITERALLY discourage media analysis. People are allowed to care about things even if they're dumb fictional teenagers!
"oh it's improv of course it's not gonna be clean"
I mean. Yeah? But people can still be disappointed. It can't be changed obviously but people are still allowed to discuss why things didn't feel the best.
"I just think it's dumb and people should spread positivity"
I agree! But The opinion the episode had good and bad parts can exist.
"it's so para social to be upset at [blank]"
Imma be 100 percent real with you. Half of the time this take is horribly misusing the term para-social. If people are upset directly with the players past "maybe this wasn't the best decision n genuinely was a little weird" then sure!
"contradictions aren't a bug they're a feature "
Yeah. When those contradictions actually contribute something narratively. Which we will not know until episode 20. Otherwise people can feel literally any way about it. Who cares.
"what are the bad kids supposed to do it's the end of the world"
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There are like 17 different DND podcasts where in the final moments a villain gets a genuinely nuanced death and it's also the end of the world. Fighting is the most convenient solution because that is what the system they are playing in encourages! I agree the ratgrinders Do Need to die but I just didn't like HOW.
"shut up and leave the fandom"
Say aaaaaaaaa open ur mouth real big
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Also. So no one misinterprets me.
I am specifically talking about when these arguments are used in bad faith to shut down any discussion of the episode :0
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scribe-of-hael · 2 days ago
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I think you could be intepreting things differently to op of that post n? Bcuz you're talking abt him always being written the same way as if ifs trapping him in a box.... but to me that's just sounds like consistent characterization? The way I always saw it he's someone who frequently is given opportunities to do better and either fumbles them or doesn't take them (or uses them to betray others for personal gain instead) bc doing that's kind of just what he's like?like that's just starscream behaviour to me lol and he wouldn't e the same guy without it. like if he turned out to have been a nice person deep down the whole time or what have you
(Not intending this to sound argumentative btw, I just wanted to offer my perspective) <3
Naw you're good Anon , I see where you're coming from ! And what OP showed. Yes he's always been like that for 40 years! But it gets - tiring. To be honest. When we are able to see different perspectives and growth from other characters. Ofc this is due to them being in the spotlight alor more, so ofc they will.
Starscream is a side character. Always has been. But with pushing him more into these new media, there gonna be different interpretation of the character. My whole thing is of you are gonna make Starscream that way. Commit.
Don't give this false hope of "We are taking this character into a new direction. JK , we lied" because if you wanna make him an asshole or insane. Whatever have you , go for it !
The thingbis we have seen the same characters have different personalities and takes in their story/Character.
Take IDW Prowl vs TFA Prowl. They are both prowl but they are vastly different. The only thing they share is say , is being police vehicle related and having the same name.
However that is still Prowl. A Prowl. Granted it is a departure from his g1 and IDW counterparts but it takes a new approach to the character.
That is what I'd like to see. If you're going to try and take a different approach, if you're going to try and address the situation to Starscream, commit.
He may not be the same Starscream, but he is still Starscream never the less. A different frame or backstory doesn't take that away from him.
Granted I haven't watched Armada beyond some clips, but alot of people would say that Armada Starscream is very different from his other interpretations. However he is still seen to be on of the arguably best Starscreams because of this departure.
Op however, has every right to say "that doenst feel like Starscream to me!" And I've been there myself.
When TFA was out its the first Starscream I saw. When TFP came out I refused to watch it because it didn't look, act or sound like the Starscream I knew! I also got lost in the sauce halfway in that post and probs lost my point along the way.
I'm just a writer who's just tired lol but thank you Anon for coming to explain and share your perspective. I am open to them ! Even if we may not always agree :3
But you're probs right i was probally misinterpreting stuff cause tbh - IDK kdixisnd
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AITA for not cutting contact with someone my partner doesn't like??
i don't want to state ages or genders, but i'm polyamorous and dating several people. all of my partners are aware of this and perfectly okay with it. i often talk about crushes i have on other people or flirt casually with friends of mine, and my partners are aware of this as well, and have no problems with it.
well, i started talking once in a discord server for my close friends about how i'm crushing on this girl, but she's a little odd and i'm not sure how to feel about her. she's very nice, shares alot of my interests, talks to me regularly and seems to care about me quite a bit, but she's said a few mildly strange things here and there that threw me off a bit is all. one of my partners immediately stated i should probably distance myself from her, and then asked who it was. i gave away her name; she's someone whom this partner barely knows at all, besides them being in a mutual server together a while back, which the girl i'm crushing on then left later. after i said who it was, this partner once again tried to tell me to leave and distance her, and was acting kind of snappy and angry with me. they tried arguing that she's a bad person and an islamophobe. the islamophobia claim comes from an event that happened in their old mutual server, where girl im crushing on was acting rather ignorant and asked a muslim in the server if muslims are all homophobic. this caused a big ruckus in that server, and i agree that it was a really weird and offensive thing for her to say, and i even told her off in dms over it. she ended up apologizing alot, and said she never meant it that way, and was just misinformed. i saw this as a genuine apology, and don't see her as islamophobic.
i told my partner firmly but calmly that i'm going to remain friends with her, and nothing they say will change that, but that i definitely won't be dating her any time soon despite my small crush on her. my partner stopped responding after that, and now i feel a little bad. was i being too harsh?? i felt like they were pressuring me and overstepping my boundaries, but maybe i just misinterpreted what they said. nonetheless, i feel like they shouldn't be so insistant on forcing me to cut off someone they barely know themselves over one small slip up that happened months ago.
AITA?? should i apologize to my partner and cut her off anyway???
What are these acronyms?
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callmeklair · 1 year ago
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Tbh with all of this I feel say to fully say my opinion on Ayato.
I do NOT hate him however the overhype about him has made sort of fed up of him. Like it’s always how great and pure hearted he is , and I’m not sure if it’s just me I’m finding it hard to believe he is.
People pull out the Dark Fate prologue that he saved Yui, he did but what would happen if Subaru never showed up?
In the anime Ayato literally threw her in the pool and despite her saying she couldn’t swim he still tried to get her to say she’s the best of his brothers. He only jumped in to her her when he got a flashback from his mother then kissed (without consent) and people just sort of ignored it? Even if it doesn’t happen in the games it shouldn’t be ignored or pass of as romantic as “aww he saved her”
I’m not hating on Ayato for this , I’m not holding this against as ALL the diaboys have done nasty shit. When I say ALL I am saying Ayato to.
I feel like alot of people baby him and act anything he’s done to Yui is nothing now due the curse even the whole curse idea came in at around 2018.
Also I don’t find the nickname chichinashi cute either , maybe slightly better than bitch-chan but it’s still not cute.
People say it’s okie to dislike a character but as soon as you say an opinion that isn’t positive but it’s still isn’t bad people see it as hate therefore treats it as such.
no fr, we state our opinion about the overhype and suddenly it's "hate on Ayato" 💀 plus he was no saint in anime. whatever you said about it and on top of that, in season two when he took Yui back he still bit her in middle of the forest despite her saying please don't I'm not in good condition, Yui definitely didn't fall for him after that it was more like no matter where she'll always be sucked dry despite her health being terrible. the curse thing just came out for rectification tbh, because in MB every guy went through thirsty part, and it was later on that ayato was declared as main interest, so yep.
also in darkfate, all boys warmed up to Yui, ayato saving yui is not the only thing in prologue, Reiji and Yui literally shared such a warming tea time with each other and the other boys came to interrupt it cuz they were little jelly which was really cute.
just like they say, it's a fictional character and it's useless to fight over it then why did you misinterpret our words into whatever you like and fight over it using analysis. I'm done with this topic :/
because I literally highlighted that I don't hate Ayato, it's just the overhype that I feel suffocating. my point is, everyone did horrendous things to Yui, including ayato then if ayato had reasons and development for it according to them then so can other boys.
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honeyfizzly · 2 years ago
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Mahiru Shiina character analysis because alot of people misinterpret her character, so here my probably incoherent explanation of her character. I'll at least try to be organized with my points thought!
Credits to https://rochisama.wordpress.com/2021/06/24/milgram-mahiru-this-is-how-to-be-in-love-with-you-mv-text/ for the translations
1. Mahiru had a turbulent relationship with her beloved.
While the diary entries go on for 16 days, it's likely the relationship lasted for about a year or more since we see the change from summer to fall clothing.
We know that for Mahiru it was love at first sight, and she quickly lied about jogging to get close to the person she liked even though she didn't jog.
She ends up confessing and they presumably get together.
From there, cracks in the relationships start to show.
It seems they used to fight alot and break up alot. Mahiru thought this was all normal relationship things, so it seems she tried to reason that the hurt she was feeling was good and they were matching in pain. Mahiru also seems to have trouble with boundaries and being needy with other people, often fighting with her partner before quickly apologizing it seems.
Also something happened on day 12 when she first went to his house where she can't remember anything. This is also when the text changes and gets more disorganized.
Somethings I'd like to point out is that Mahiru is never seen with her partner besides one scene of him handing her a coffee on their outdoor date.
This could represent 2 things- Mahiru was only thinking of herself in the relationship, and how she looked or this is a visual representation of how Mahiru's partner was very distant in the relationship.
I'd argue it's the second option due to how Mahiru says she just dosent want to give, she wants to recieve as well. This implies in the past, Mahiru felt that she was the only one providing effort in the relationship.
Even some lines in the song and the diary express this frustration, like when she mentions in day 10 he probably won't notice her hair cut or how she constantly questions if he knows what love is.
On day 9 is when we see them go on their first date, and it's a bar where her beloved gets fucking blasted. She describes him as drinking himself unconscious. On this day it also includes an hangover cure called "corpse reviver".
Also Mahiru seems to be willing to copy anything her lover does, like in her interrogation questions she says she would smoke if her partner did.
Day 16 is presumably when her partner dies, the day Mahiru is waiting to surprise him with a feast she cooked of his favorite food. It's likely her partner killed themselves, due to the fact Mahiru the image she holds up in her card in undercover is the suicide forest. That's where her "murder" accured.
2. Mahiru Shiina has a shallow view of happiness
It's no secret that too Mahiru, love is happiness. Throughout her voice drama she is always talking about love and loving other people, and she feels as if her life has no purpose if it lacked love.
Alot of Mahiru's music video also features alot of magazine imagery, as if she's the fancy model in her story. Now, here's where things get interesting- Mahiru seems very cautious about what society sees of her, and seems to use surface level things to try and make her happy.
For example, she says "Beige and pink will make you love yourself" on day 10, you shouldn't need colors combinations on outfits to "love" yourself.
Or how in day 14 she says "Just because it’s outdoors doesn’t mean you can relax too much! Even when picking out a date outfit to protect you from the cold, you still want to protect that loveable silhouette".
Mahiru talks like this constantly throughout the mini text explaining her outfit choices in her diary.
Mahiru throughout the mv and the lyrics seems to have some sort of depression with lyrics like, "I really don't want to say I'm okay", "this sickness is pretty bad", "I suck at pretending to smile but see I'm happy cause of you"
Mahiru is very concerned with fitting into public image and chasing a fairy tale romance, hell that chasing of that fairy tale life is probably why she's so asscioated with the blue bird.
The blue bird of happiness is quite litterally in it's name, it's a bird that represents happiness.
Throughout the mv we see feathers falling down, and Mahiru even pouncing on the feathers like a cat. Some people think the feathers were meant to represent the lover's stress, but I personally believe it's meant to represent the relationships happiness.
I think Mahiru pouncing on the feathers is meant to represent how she's chasing after that happiness, but since her view of happiness is so shallow she only gets the feathers and not the bird.
The last feather falling is presumably when she realizes the happiness she's been chasing was all for nothing and her relationship was doomed from the start.
Also throughout the mv we see that Mahiru is in a birdcage. There's a whole shot of her looking longingly out of the bars as if she wants out, before she goes kitty mode and pounces on the feathers- instead trying to reaffirm her "happiness" in the relationship.
Alot of people don't mention that mahiru is in the birdcage as well, and seems to want out as well.
I personally believe the birdcage represents the relationship itself, as both partners probably feel trapped by it.
3. Her behavior after getting voted guilty is concerning. Even after getting restrained and then having the absolute shit beat out of her, to the point she's in critical condition, she reaffirms her love for everyone there.
4. In the teaser trailer for the second trial came out, the one with everyone talking and the big black spiky thing on screen we hear mahiru at her angries- she screams at 0:12 "don't say you love me without any proper weight behind it", it seems she's very concerned on if the person she likes truly loves her.
So with all the information we know about her so far- Mahiru is a young women whos very focused on surface level ways of achieving happiness, which traps her in a toxic relationship that leads to the death of her partner. Mahiru is shocked by this and dosent know if she's the cause or not, and feels that without loving others she has nothing left to live for.
Personally in my books this an essay innocent, not just cause she got beat up for being guilty but also because it's clear that this was just a bad first relationship for her where she rushed into love and found herself in a toxic relationship.
There's still alot we don't know, and her second trial might completely recontextualize things, like it did with Shidou and Muu. But until then, here's my analysis on Mahiru!
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love-too-believe · 2 years ago
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Ok...something has to be going on behind the scenes that we're not seeing. I don't know if she's back tracking or telling the truth.
Here's the full interview.
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For those that don't know this is Vanessa Bauche an actress and alleged founder of the feminist group Elena is in. That also has allegations of being transphobic and having TERF like behavior.
The same woman who allegedly claimed that there were "other victims" of Tenoch yet to come and that what she has to reveal is very serious.
This claim was made a week ago and similar to Elena's claim she stated this to the media and didn't explain, just that justice was coming.
Now in this interview she's claiming she never said any of that and that the media misinterpreted what she said. She says she was never warning the public of anything about to happen and she only knows what we know. She clarifies that she believes Elena but doesn't know any new information...
Ok so here's my issue with this.
If this is true she let this rumor by the media sit for a whole week. That is so not ok. She was active on Twitter so it's not like she wasn't aware. People were @ing her left and right and she let this lie sit for a whole week and as of right now Mexican media hasn't corrected this.
This is not a game or drama. This is a man's life. And now we have a woman associated with Elena treating it like a joke.
Also, i'm just putting this out there in terms of a pattern i'm noticing.
This is the second woman to make a vague accusation about Tenoch and suddenly backtrack out of the situation. The first being Fernanda.
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(Also guys, let me know if you don't want to be tagged in these update posts. I feel like ive been posting alot of them lately and I think it can be overwhelming. I only do it cause I know some peeps don't have Twitter accounts and sadly this is where most of this is going down.)
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Warning really long read SORRY! I'm new to the fandom I started by watching episode 1 but dropped it for weeks until I saw reels comments and pictures going crazy with Akane. I picked it back up and started the manga after, Akane and Aqua of course became my favorite characters as I was able to personally connect with them through struggles I also faced. Your post have been very helpful as theres not to many places that aren't filled with negativity surrounding these two characters. These two characters have struggled so much and I can see how much they've come to truly care for each other especially when no one else was there. I wanted to share my thoughts with you but hesitated because I feel like they might not make sense. If it doesn't make sense please dont share I'll understand lol
"Kurokawa Akane is a child who takes you there Arima Kana is a child who brings you back"
This tweet from august 2021 from the author Aka Akasaka has alot of people trying to figure out the meaning, many interpret it and paint Akane in a bad light. When I first saw read it I just found it wierd how it was worded and how everything Akane has done for Aqua is always misinterpreted and they try to make her look as a bad person when she's actually far from it. It really got me thinking and this is my interpretation..
In chapter 51 we see how Akane has figured out the twins could possibly be Ai's secret child she got from her character analysis assumptions. She saw how badly it still affects Aqua and sympathized with him she herself knows the feeling of not wanting to worry others trying to take on the burden by yourself, she knows he cant talk to no one about the incident since it would expose Ai's secret. Akane truly cares about Aqua wanting to be the one by his side and helping him share his pain wanting to take her role of his girlfriend more seriously.
That specific tweet came out august 5 2021 the same day chapter 52 was released. The title of chapter 52 is called "boyfriend girlfriend" and at the beginning the editor note says "Where and how is Akane looking after the sick Aqua?" The chapter starts with Akane cooking a full course meal for Aqua and everyone there. We see the director and his mom complimenting her cooking then the directors mom says something that catches my attention she says "AQUA-KUN! SHE'S A KEEPER, HON! EATING DELICIOUS FOOD IS HAPPINESS ON ITS OWN YOU KNOW?" We then see Akane trying to feed Aqua but he ends up eating on his own we see him thinking its good and even blush alittle. During that time Akane is thinking to herself how she wants to help Aqua with his pain/burden just like he had saved and supported her. After we see Aqua lighten up allowing her see old acting videos of his she finds out from the director how he's been having his PTSD attacks when he acts and remembers his past experiences like earlier that day. She notices his performances are prepared in advance with no emotion behind his acting. Akane then asks Aqua why he's doing theater/acting work as its connected to his trauma. He tries saying she wouldn't understand and won't tell her why but after telling him how hes being contradictory he opens up and says well "What If My Goal Was To Kill Someone?" And how the person was high up in the entertainment world had to keep climbing in order to kill them he then asks her "What Would You Do Then?" Aqua was expecting her to not understand him and probably a negative reaction but to his surprise Akane replies "I'd Kill Them With You." with a smile making his negative emotions go away from his eye and even telling her not to say that lightly. Akane acknowledges if it's him he must have a reason and even if hes truly evil she'd still accept him for who he was. She says how she'd happily carry the sin even if the relationship was only for business purposes making Aqua say she out her mind. Akane then says how she wants his help as her boyfriend against kana and himekawa as she doesn't want to lose and Aqua realizes he should help her as her boyfriend. Even tho Aqua knows emotional acting is hard for him he's willing to practice and take it more seriously to help Akane.
After reading many assume its about the revenege part but i don't think thats it..yes aqua does mention it but he never actually asked her to help him though out the duration of thier relationships Akane finds the dad by coincidence. That chapter shows how they are getting closer and wanting to support each other. So i started thinking about the editors note and what the directors mom had said "Where and how is Akane looking after the sick Aqua" shes cooking for him to make him feel better and it did! The directors mom says how eating delicious food can make you happy and though out the whole manga the word "HAPPY" has always been associated with Akane and Aqua. Even in chapter 50 before his PTSD attack when thinking about happy memories his first thought was Akane related then Kana then the idol group. In every star eye color change he's had Aqua has thought of her as part of his happiness!='( So i was think what if the tweet maybe meant "Akane will take him to Happiness" because we actually already saw she did and he was fighting so hard not wanting to leave it but had no choice to protect her. Aqua is no longer there so thats when I started thinking about Kanas part. After recent chapters i started thinking what if Kana is going to help Aqua get back with Akane in the end. I'm thinking how tho then when I think bout how she's so similar to sarina and Ai what if she confesses to Aqua making him finally understand how he truly feels. The reason i also think this is because in the play arc when princess Saya(played by akane) dies Tsurugi(played by kana) helps in bringing her back to life and reuniting with Touki(played by Aqua). The play has alot of similarities to characters and even to the story you can link stuff together. In the Spur interview mengo says how Aka is a demon of analysis and objectivity.
So to end this my interpretation of the tweet is "Kurokawa Akane is a child who takes you there(Happiness) Arima Kana is a child who brings you back(to akane)"
Hi anon, welcome to the fandom! I wonder how many of us would've dropped ONK if it weren't for Akane and Aqua 😂
Thank you for sharing your theory with me! You explained it very well, so please don't worry about it! I have to admit that it has never occurred to me to read Aka's quote that way, my own read erred on the side of caution. But I mean, if we're here to ship, we may as well have fun while we're at it, right? And your take is so much fun! It's truly a Galaxy Brain interpretation of Aka's statement, and I can only imagine how many minds would be blown by it.
It really is funny how many people interpreted that statement to imply something negative about Akane, when Aka never said that had to be the case 😂
I'm thinking how tho then when I think bout how she's so similar to sarina and Ai what if she confesses to Aqua making him finally understand how he truly feels.
I've been thinking something similar!
The reason i also think this is because in the play arc when princess Saya(played by akane) dies Tsurugi(played by kana) helps in bringing her back to life and reuniting with Touki(played by Aqua). The play has alot of similarities to characters and even to the story you can link stuff together.
Yes!! I'm expecting that scene to be foreshadowing as well. We'll just have to wait and see how Aka plays it out 😂
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