#i can't “love” my ex-spouse in the marriage way

[stacotto]

Aegoromanticism in a nutshell

I don't wanna hide it in the tags

[martian-astro10]

Astrology observations - Part 3 (use whole signs)

🎀 For a lot of people with moon in 7th house, their mother had a huge impact on their personality (in a good or bad way). They'll either admire her a lot and try to be more like her or, do their best to not be like her. Their mother usually has a lot of say in who they marry. If the ascendant lord is not strong, then these people completely change after marriage and start to behave in a way in which their spouse would like them to.

🐈‍⬛Saturn in 9th house people can be really good when it comes to their career, they end up getting promoted earlier than others, but I've noticed that they prefer to work alone. It's like, they create something, but they would like someone else to market and sell it since communication is not their strong suit. Can be very introverted, not the best at taking initiatives, are very prone to undermining themselves.

🎀 moon in 11th house people have a really good relationship with their kids (unless it's debilitated). It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl, it's the same for both. They're the parents who have a very "chill" relationship with their kids, their kids trust them a lot, treat them as a friend. All my friends who have a great and healthy relationship with their parents, 85% of those parents had moon in 11th.

🐈‍⬛ Mars in 5th house people have such an "interesting" dating life; love triangles, friends with benefits, they've (or will) experienced it all. The people to say "it's complicated" when you ask them about their love life. But I've also seen that these people are very accepting of other people's dating preferences, this is one of the things that I really admire about them, this can result in them having a very diverse group of friends.

🎀 Jupiter aspecting ascendant/midheaven is one of the best placements that you could possibly have. I was going through celebrities' charts and I noticed that the ones who were exceptionally popular or rich had this like 90% of the time. With opposition and square it can indicate that people hate you at first, but then some info comes out and suddenly everyone loves you, but you gotta go through the hate first. Conjunction can go either way depending on the sign.

🐈‍⬛ Saturn in 4th house women have my full respect, like, these people go through so much shit in their life and yet they're so hardworking and never give up. Their mother was probably their worst enemy growing up. If you know someone who has this, give them a hug, they're carrying so much burden, and yet they never show it. You'll never hear these people complaining about life, have a very, "it's okay, problems come and go, you can't be sad all the time" mentality.

🎀 Sun in 1st house people make me so angry, I don't get along with them. They have such a shitty personality, and always wanna fight for absolutely no reason. Start a beef out of nowhere, but they are so fucking good at their job, that's actually what makes me hate them more. My class representative has this, and she's such a bitch, but she's so responsible, it breaks my fucking heart, can't even complain 😔

🐈‍⬛ Mercury in 11th house people have unmatched Rizz, will charm the pants off you (unless it's debilitated). I'm so jealous of people who have this. I know people with this, who are not conventionally attractive but their charm is what makes people like them. I never knew what it meant to be attracted to someone's personality until I met someone who had this. (I know this sounds like a backhanded compliment, but it's really not)

🎀 I have never in my life met a moon in 8th house person who was like....okay. these people will have a mental breakdown almost every week. Can't take criticism AT ALL. I have seen that people with this have a tendency to date whoever they see once they break up, just to show their ex how "wanted" they are, and it's not healthy because a lot of their hook ups have bad intentions. Have a habit of playing the victim "everyone bullies me 🥺" "I have the hardest life" and blah blah. On a positive note, they can handle fame really well because of their ability to manipulate people, once you get in their trap and start liking them, you'll never be able to hate them.

🐈‍⬛ I never see people talking about how smart Venus in 3rd house people are. I'm always so amazed by the way they carry conversations. A lot of women who have won beauty paegents have this because of how nice their answers were. A lot of young politicians have this as well. Their juniors often look up to them.

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[marymary-diva17]

I will always love you all (Modern au)

Jake x tonowari x reader x neytiri x ronal

Love is something that will last forever and had been built over the years, when it comes to loving someone a person will put their whole heart and effort into it as well. Soon this love will lead to a marriage with the promise of the marriage and relationship lasting forever, and never coming to and end. Then what happens when the said love that once was there, was no longer possessed by the ones involved in this relationship. What become of someone who still holds love for those who don't love them back anymore.

y/n " ........" You had married your childhood friends and taught your marriage will go well with them, as the relationship you had with them was something special. Special enough to finally marry them and soon enough start a family as well, but now it seems like that love was gone. Everything was going well but now it seems like everything was coming cashing down now.

Jake " look we are sorry we had told you like this but we need to tell you"

y/n " divorce or separation" you had looked at your spouse hoping to get some answers from them, but they all looked at each other.

neytiri " divcore"

y/n " so you all ... can you explain this one more time to me please"

tonowari " for some time we have realized the love we once had for you is no longer here, we thought it was just a moment of something but kept on growing we all soon felt it"

y/n " so you all wish to have a divorce from me ... to end our marriage and relationship"

ronal " we will still have an relationship with your but not this one anymore"

y/n " cant we try marriage consultation or separation for a time frame ... it can't end like this"

Jake " we all want to marriage consolation without you we still have love for each other, but we found out we no longer love you"

y/n " so you all been feeling this way for sometime and went to this meeting without sharing it with me or anything"

tonowari " yes we are sorry we didn't want to hurt you or the kids, we just need to get some help"

y/n " so what are we going to tell the children you know they will not take this well"

ronal " we will tell them and deal with everything later on as it comes ... please we cnat make this hard we have to do our best" your had felt your heart break just last week you had gone on date with them, and everything was fine or maybe that was you see everything through rose thinned glasses. It had taken a couple days to tell the kids the news and they didn't take it that well, tuk ran into her room and cried she was followed by her sister. that boys got mad and stormed off to spider house. it felt like everything was coming apart for you and the family.

months later

y/n " I only get visitation and some holidays with my kids"

lawyer " I'm sorry y/n but you are none of the kids birth mothers and it seems, like my clients had this all planned out well"

lawyer 2 " that not fair y/n her raised this kids as her own she stayed home with them, and gave up some career choices"

lawyer " look coming from the kids statement you are a good mother y/n and wonderful person indeed but think about, them you don't have claim over the house and the kids have lives here ... you might have to move which will end up with them switch schools do you wish that for them"

y/n " no ... cant I just talk it out with my spouses please"

lawyer " ex spouse they already signed all the papers but you, this causing troubles at home right"

y/n " yes the kids are become mad fights are happing at home .... matters are no longer the same anymore I miss my old family"

lawyer " look there are some things we have to do and that might be giving up so others can be happy ... you wish for everyone to be happy right"

y/n " yes"

lawyer 2 " I can help you with anything in the future y/n"

y/n " I will sign the papers and make everyone happy ... I just want my kids to be happy again and no longer made and the home to be at peace" you had signed the papers and your were no longer with your exes anymore. it broke your heart to sign the papers and as life will no longer be the same. The whole process had caused trouble for you and your exes, most of your friends were there and they seem to be siding with your exes. You had barely saw the kids as they were always busy with their School life or their family life, and they seem to be keep some distance at the moment. You had lost your job as well making life harder for you, and when you had chance of getting a job you were regret over and over again.

months later

y/n " what I'm going to go nothing going well ... but everyone else is happy" you were staying at an house you brought at the moment you were planning for the kids to come see the place. That never happened and you wish to not cause anymore trouble.

y/n " huh" soon there was a knock at your door it was late at night so you were being careful, at first your thought it was the children to come see you. A smile grows on your face but when you open the door you saw it was some stranger.

??????" are you y/n l/n"

y/n " yes that me"

stranger " hello ma'am I have been order by my boss to offer you job you were a scientist and researcher right before, your marriage and becoming a mom right" it was some man dressed up in fancy suit that was at your door and care behind him, that same very expensive as well.

y/n " yes I was"

stranger " look my boss is looking for a smart mind like you someone who can get the job done and do the best for humility, your lawyer dropped your name she seems to know my boss ... you will get paid well and have a better place to stay a place for your kids to come see you"

y/n " will I be doing good or bad"

stranger " I'm guessing coming here at night is not a good sign" you had laugh at the stranger words making him smile.

y/n " nope but I have heard about what you were talking about, strangely I was told about this form old coworker"

stranger " so you know about us good so what will you say to job yes or no ... it will be good and it seems like you need some positive change in your lives" there was no lying there maybe some chance was good for you, and maybe this will be good for the kids as well. They had been missing you and this will follow the rules made between you and your exes.

y/n " deal"

stranger " good all your stuff will be packed up and sent over, in couple days a private jet will come get you and take you over to you new home ... make sure you tell your lawyer of this as well and anyone else"

y/n "thank you for the offer"

stranger " you welcome and if you most know the comply helps those who been through hard times, and they all have been like you and now it your turn to help others and yourself as well" you had nodded your head your as the stranger walked off into the night. During the next couple days you got everything ready to move, well mostly everything.

y/n " make this quickly y/n just tell them the news and move on" you had soon rang the door bell, waiting for someone to answer.

neytiri " y/n hello it good to see you what are you doing here"

y/n " I came to speak with you all and the kids I'm not here to causing trouble"

ronal " y/n"

y/n " hello"

?????? " mama" you are soon hugged by the kids and you hug them back happy to see them.

tuk " mama are you coming back home and we can be a family again"

y/n " I'm sorry sweetie but we are still a family"

Jake " hey y/n"

tonowari " hello"

y/n " hello look I know this news comes as surprise but I had been given a job offer"

aonung " that wonderful mama now we can come see you more and, you can be helpful again and do all the good you did before"

y/n " yes but I will not be staying here"

kiri " what"

y/n " this job is faraway so I will be moving away"

lo'ak " no mama"

y/n " I know my loves we been through alot this past couples months, but it will all be good now I will have a new job that has given me a new house big enough for you all to come stay for holidays it will be fun"

rotxo " can we come see you"

y/n " after everything is agreed upon and approved and if you dads and moms say yes, then you all can come see me and we will have fun"

tsireya " well mama if this makes you happy then we are happy for you"

y/n" we can still gave our family calls and group chat I want you to text or call me each day, and I will do the same ... so we all make sure we are happy and safe"

neteyam " deal mama"

y/n " that what I love to hear my children I will always love you guys no matter what, make sure you do good in school and have a fun time .... call me when you feel sad and I will be there or just for a talk" the kids had nodded their heads and soon hugged you one last time.

tuk " can I have a puppy or kitten at your home mommy"

y/n " we can talk this out more later all of you get ready for school, I'm not having my kids be tardy when I'm here"

neteyam " yes mama"

y/n " I will send you pictures our the our new home and everything else I see okay"

the kids " okay" the kids soon walked into the house to get ready for School, as you are left alone with your exes looking at them.

y/n " my lawyer will be in contact with you all for any updated information, I hope I can get more time with the kids for longer vacations or anything else"

Jake " sure are you sure about this job it sounds like it far away"

y/n " yes and it think it will be for the best for us all the kids can stay here and be happy with their friends and family here, I will still be there for them ..... we all need some change in our lives"

tonowari " are you sure we can help you get a job here you still have friends here as well"

y/n" no need I'm okay I can stand on my own now and I still talk with them .... I will always love you all and wish you the best and hope you find happiness if anything happens I will call .... take care all of you"

neytiri " y/n we ...." neytiri was cut off when the sound of car honking had gone off getting everyone attention, the kids rush out to see what happing.

y/n " that my ride I can't miss this I will call you all tonight I love you"

kids " love you mama"

tuk " wait mama take this a gift we been making it pictures of us all.. that why we couldn't see you that much we wanted to make you smile again"

y/n " I love them baby I will hang them up on my wall" you hug and kiss your kids goodbye and you walked away from them and got in the car. You waved goodbye to the kids from the car as you drove off the kids, are sad and happy they were going to miss you but happy you were finding happiness now in your life. It seems like your ex seem to having a hard time coming to terms what happened right now. It took the flight a long time to get there but soon enough you were there, and now you are starting your life here. You had sent the kids some photos and they were happy. When you face time them they asked to see everything and got to pick their room as well, everyone was all smile sand happiness, you are happy and couldn't wait to see what will come for you in the future.

[thatbadadvice]

Help! The Woman I Have Been Stalking for Years Is Disinclined to Engage With Me

Carolyn Hax, WaPo, 1 June 2023 (originally 11 March 2009):

Dear Carolyn: About five years ago, I began to realize that a woman I dated 25 years earlier was someone I had stronger feelings for than I was mature enough to appreciate at the time. I had questions for her about why we hadn’t blossomed into the kind of relationship I now think we both believe we were destined for. In the past five years, I’ve continued to have those questions, then dreams, etc., which led me to do a paid search for her address. I wrote her twice and left a voice mail. My messages have been about old friends I bumped into who reminded me of her, what I’ve been doing and how I’d like to hear from her. That is, nothing too serious or about what’s been on my mind. I haven’t received an answer. I’ve thought through the reasons she hasn’t corresponded, and why I needed to talk with her, and am still at a loss. Would asking her my questions directly in a letter be a way to coax her to reconnect? Telling her that, apart from this midlife crisis of mine, I’m happily married and successful, and that all I want are answers? -- A 30-year-old question

Dear 30-Year-Old Question,

One might expect a happily married person to do all kinds of things, but topmost among them is paying to find the contact information of an ex-girlfriend and sending said ex-girlfriend multiple unanswered messages, repeatedly and through a variety of means, over the course of many years in the hopes of deceiving her into heady conversations about the details of your long-ended relationship. Yes indeed, when the Bad Advisor thinks of "normal stuff a person who's very happy in their marriage would do," her mind immediately goes to "pretending to ask innocuous questions about old friends in the hope that a woman I dated 30 years ago believes I am solely and only asking her innocent questions about old friends, when in fact I am explicitly and admittedly not."

Women are famously unable to clock the intentions of men, who are very clever, extremely stealthy, and never creepy or dangerous to the extent that they would unsettle people from whom they have demanded interaction and who have time and time again ignored them. Probably this woman received your incredibly blasé letters and voicemail and thought: "Gosh, it seems like this dude who deuced out on me three decades ago is trying to rope me into responding to him multiple times despite my obvious disinclination to engage only and exclusively on the subject of our old friends, what a boring conversation, I shan't respond unless he sends me a lengthy bit of written correspondence detailing his many thoughts and feelings about how our romance ended, I simply can't imagine having a conversation with him unless I know for absolute certain he wants to rehash what happened between us, which is the only possible way I could fathom entertaining such a reconnection, one which I would never have reason to pursue otherwise, as I am so desperately in love with him and have been lo these 30 years but could not in good conscience find a way to broach the subject unless he sends me just one more letter finally making his bonerful intentions plain, that sly dog."

Might you have neglected to include a return address on the previous correspondence about which you were extremely desperate, but in a very casual way, to receive a response? Does your ex-girlfriend own the only cellular telephone on earth that does not log the return-call number of people who leave voicemails? Mayhap she simply does not know how to contact you after multiple attempts over half a decade! These are highly probable reasons she has not sought you out! Vastly more likely than the fact that she sees entirely the fuck through your pretenses and wants nothing to do with you whatsoever.

If you wish to receive a concrete answer about the status of your relationships, your best hope is to CC your spouse on any future correspondence. I think you can expect a prompt response.

[rosecentaur1916]

This counts for fictional characters who are abused too, like Jonathan Levy.

Yes, I hated Jonathan for cheating on his new girlfriend/wife. Yes, I couldn't believe he became who he was trying to break from. Sadly this is a reality for many abused spouses/partners. I'm one of the lucky ones that had broken free of the trauma bond due to strong family ties. I know its possible for this not to happen, but there is *never* a clean break for victims.

Its usually you go back and forth and back and forth before you can actually leave. I even had to. I wanted to leave my ex husband January 2019. It was mid-month and I tried! I did it the wrong way. I didn't tell my ex I'd be leaving to get space and taking our kid with me. He could have pressed charges for kidnapping. I had to go back. Then every weekend we'd come to my Moms house for the next three to four weeks. The fourth week on my birthday we left. Yes, that would have been February 2019.

There were attempts at hoovering and other such manipulations to get me back. If I didn't have my sister teaching me how to avoid the hoovering I would have fallen for it and been back in his clutches. That's what happened to Jonathan. Mira hoovered and he came back. He didn't have a support system like I did to keep him from going back. He fell for it. Simple as that.

Everything he did was in effort to survive. That means that you stoop down to your abusers level and mirror back the gaslighting, emotional manipulation, condescension, reactionary abuse, word salad, name calling, attempts at control, screaming, shouting, cursing. Its called mutual abuse at that point, and no... neither person is innocent. Its a survival mechanism. Survival isn't pretty.

You only saw him live out the end of his abusive marriage, even men are abused. Its not just women and men in same sex relationships. Straight men or men in straight presenting relationships get abused too. Jonathan is one of them. Jonathan *is* the victim. He can't have a "victim mentality" if he is a victim. He is the victim. Mira used his innocence and a medical emergency to get what she wanted from him and then further manipulated him and abused him over the duration of a decade long marriage.

So, no. He's not problematic. He's not a bad guy. He's a good guy in a bad situation who handled it poorly due to having a poor support system. Its his unconditional love and excellent treatment of Ava that shows his true colors. We never see him be mean or rough with her. We never see him take out his stress on her. We see that he moves them both into his study because after Mira callously left her husband and daughter that she can't sleep by herself. Afraid that Daddy will leave too.

We see the first morning after Mira leaves, he's ticked, hes mad, he smashes his phone and bites his hand in effort to make sure Ava doesn't wake up. Then, when she does, he's instantly gentle with her. Adopting a soft voice, eyes, and posture. The affects of a good father who is *not* being watched.

Mira is the monster, not Jonathan. We barely see her with Ava. When we do its interactions in front of other people where she has to be good and nice. Covert manipulators, like Mira, are good that. My ex husband was. My ex was always good with our kid and I in front of other people. You'd think he was the best Dad and Husband on Earth! He wasn't. He was a lying, manipulative, abusive prick. So much so I have PTSD. I bet Jonathan has it too, if not C-PTSD from what we hear about his childhood from his writings about his father in episode 3.

[seeingteacupsindragons]

Hello. I'm currently reading vol 9 of jeweller Richard, and had a question stuck in my head. Towards the end of the book, Seigi and Richard are having a conversation about Richard's ex, Octavia, and how he sees Seigi as his friend. He explains why he won't remarry his ex, but his explaination made me wonder if he can't go back to her, or he doesn't want to. Cause like, they are two different things. He tells Seigi when he thinks of a friend, he is the first person that comes to his mind. The FIRST one, but not the only one. Also they have remained friends with Deborah after break up right? We all know how Richard defines friendship. (Spouse like) He said if he still wishes to marry her is a tricky question and is half-correct. What did he mean by that? He says the remaining halves are not so easily settled for both of them, that's why he won't remarry her. What if he could fit everything he loves into a life with Deborah? Would he try? What if Deborah was ok with it too? The reason he doesn't is because he simply can't or doesn't want to? Does this (him considering both Deborah and Seigi as his friends) imply the possibility of him being a polyamorous, in his own way? (It doesn't have to be marriage, think of a reunion with her as Richard's friendship thing)

Richard's answer is both that he can't (she remarried, and divorced), and that he doesn't want to with his full self because there's a lot of complicated feelings there, so he won't because there's too much that can't really be resolved.

Sometimes, after a breakup, even if you both still love each other in the correct way, a life together is just not a thing compatible. And Deborah and Richard do not have compatible lives anymore.

This is an important conversation to have, and I like that Jeweler Richard had it! It's important to acknowledge. Not everything works out.

Also, no, I don't think Richard is in any way polyam, because he's way too goddamn clingy and he turns his partner and his sole person into his everything. He has a serial most important person problem. He could never handle polyamory. And neither could Seigi, for the same reasons.

Anyway, Deborah does show up in volume 10 and perhaps put some of your questions to rest.

[aspaceformbf]

Stardew Boyfriend Mod Ideas Yet Again!

Apparently there are mods where you can marry other characters in Stardew Valley.. so it IS possible!

I know i wrote some fics detailing what yb would be like as a stardew companion, but they are a bit too detailed and might not be easy to turn into a mod.

I think the gojo mod just adds the heart events and marriage stuff. YB is already in love with you so I like the idea that each heart event is actually YOU liking and trusting him more, like a reverse dating sim.

Fic 1

Fic 2

Or check the #stardew tag

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If You're Married to Someone Else

Him killing off characters you're dating or married to might be a lot of programming so maybe just dialogue of him being sad and going

"I would get rid of them if i could.."

If he has 6 of your hearts or above he would be like

"i'm the better option, we both know that..."

Actually.. there might be an easier way to go about this..

What if the NPC you married resets to zero hearts a few days after marriage? They still exist in the game and do their usual routines but the option to date them is locked.

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After marriage, yb goes silent for a while or says stuff like

"they don't deserve you.."

"they stole you from me.."

"I will fix this, don't worry.."

And then boom, you're unmarried.

Thing is you can still date and marry other characters, just not the one that yb has already "taken care of"

The cycle just continues if you keep trying that.. you marry.. you get unmarried, and eventually more and more NPCs get locked off dating until there's only him left

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YB "Taking Care" of Your Spouses

One day you wake up and your partner is not there. You walk out of the house and there's a dialogue saying

"Where did they go?"

You are still "married" when you check your status

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If you find your married partner where they usually are at 0 zero hearts and talk to them, you will get an extra dialogue/monologue going

"Why are they acting like they don't know me?"

You can keep talking to them and they just give their usual dialogues and you get extra monologues like

"Is this some kind of prank? Knock it off!" "What are you doing here? Come home.." "Stop acting so cold.." "What's going on??"

If you don't bump into them and end the day, when you go to bed you will get a monologue saying

"That's weird.. I didn't see them today.."

If you bump into yb

"I had to do this"

"They are out of the way now.. you will understand soon enough"

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By the third day, your monologues escalate to stuff like

"So we're really over huh.." "This isn't funny anymore.. if you don't come home soon, we are done"

If you talk to yb by the second day, he will tell you that you're not married anymore and that you and him can "continue loving each other"

After five days your status goes back to unmarried, your ex reverts to 0 hearts and you can date other characters (yb) now

If you try to give them a bouquet again at 8 hearts, you get dialogue like

"They don't seem interested" "They turned it down" "I'm not going through this again"

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Other Mod Features

Sometimes the day starts with his sprite next to your bed. He runs off as you wake up.

You get gifts from him in the mailbox.

He gives you common items like forages or berries or fish sometimes when you talk to him. The chances of him giving you flowers are pretty high.

After starting a game with him, you receive two roses in your mailbox. He approaches you with a bouquet. He tries to hug you but your character doesn't know him and steps away.

He looks stunned

"..."

His confusion changes to a smiling sprite

"Oh I get it. I need to earn your affection! Don't worry love, I will prove my love to you!"

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Q : High Value Items

What if he gives you high value items every other day.. or maybe once a week, so people can't exploit it? 

Imagine if he gives you a gold tool or something hard to get early on if you're lucky enough

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I'm not sure if he would give you tools above your current progress level, I mean it's something to consider since he would do it if he could. It would  screw up the pacing of the game though.

Tumblr lore states he is stable financially but he's not FILTHY rich so.. I like to think of him leveling with you. His gifts start off relatively simple and not like.. game breaking.

So expensive and powerful tools could be something he gives you once you reach a certain level or milestone.

Maybe a dialogue option where you can let him know what kind of gifts you prefer? Or something that toggles if he would give you something WAY above your current level?

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Q : Existing Children

What if I already have a child with the npc, does the child get dismissed?

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Maybe you can't get a child with anyone other than yb in this mod. When you apply to adopt, the adoption process gets delayed or you find that none of the adoption agencies are responding to you?

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Q : i already have a kid with maru tho

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Probably need a new save file I guess. Or.. 

One way to do this without really breaking the game is if the kid disappears when you add the mod to your existing save file.

You receive a letter in the mailbox reassuring you that your kid is safe. Yeah he kidnaps the child.

Or the kid just stays with you and you're a single parent after he "deals" with your current marriage partner.

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Q : the kid could be scared of him

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Does the kid have much dialogue in the game? Game wise the kid just disappears and reappears after you marry him.

If there's dialogue involved, it could be a game breaking event where they just act as if yb has been their dad the whole time.

[luverofralts]

Arkhelios Adventures

"So, after we close the restaurant tonight, remind me to pick up those papers from Maura’s office. They need to be filed within two weeks, and I can't forget."

Adrian continued doing sit-ups for another few minutes before he realized that Roman hadn't replied to him in awhile. He had been sure that Roman had walked away until he looked around the room and saw that both Roman and Abe were staring at him.

"I'll remind you about the papers," Roman promised, despite looking distracted. Beside him, Abe looked equally out of sorts.

Abe nodded.

"Yes, the papers. The papers for Maura. I can remind you."

Adrian gave the two Bellamys a strange look but decided they were weird, but harmless. Ever since the demonic marriage, Abe would sometimes finish Roman's sentences or answer with Roman's exact response to Adrian's question, despite not having seen his husband all day. Whatever was happening, clearly their brains were synchronized and Adrian would never understand. Between those two and Rien's standard creepy predictions, Adrian's life was never boring.

"Well, thanks for the promise," he said, grabbing a dish towel to wipe off his sweat. "I'll hold you two to that or Maura will have my head. I'm off to go finish my run, Evren's meeting me at the cafe to take me home and I don't want to be late."

"Uh huh."

Neither Roman or Abe moved from their odd position, still staring at him like he was the sun itself and they couldn't look away.

"Fucking demonic marriage," Adrian muttered to himself. "There's no way my kids are getting anywhere near that, even if they claim they want it for themselves. Those two have never been creepier. I'm glad to see them happy, but the staring is just too much."

"Has Adrian's ass always looked like that? How have I missed that for all these years? It's like a marble statue."

Abe stared after Adrian long after he'd left, in complete awe of how attractive Roman's ex-husband was despite knowing him for over a decade and never thinking that thought once.

"Mhmm," Roman replied. "It's only gotten better with age."

Adrienne rolled her eyes, utterly exhausted by her parents. It was always something with them, whether they were in love, out of love, cheating on each other...the list was endless. Ever since her father and stepfather were demonically married, things in the household had gotten weird. Their thoughts were blending together and expressing themselves in weird ways. Supposedly, in a few years, the demonically married couple usually figured out how to tell their thoughts apart from their spouse's, which would be a godsend. Her father had called Elaine Helios "mom" by accident a few times now, each time with disastrous results, and Adrienne had seen her stepfather awake in the kitchen late at night, completely butchering the recipe for sugar cookies because her father had been thinking of making some for sale the next day.

Now it was spreading over to her other father like some kind of horny contagion. Adrienne had been told the secrets of just how damaging sex hormones were by the spirits, and had witnessed her own brother fall victim to his own raging hormones for Adam. From her earliest memories, Adrienne knew that Abe didn't like her father, Adrian. He was jealous and petty about every little thing regarding her biological parents' relationship for the longest time, and now here he was ogling her father openly. Which meant that her other father had been ogling him and passing the thought on, making the whole thing gross. After all this time, Adrienne thought that the adults in her life were finally able to have better control of their hormones, but clearly, she was wrong. She dreaded her birthday next year when she, too, would likely have uncontrollable hormones.

"You know, I have some time still before I have to go to work," Abe whispered, making his husband laugh.

"Oh, really?" Roman asked playfully. "Adrian should stop by more often if he can free up your schedule like that."

"Hi, Rien. I'm home from school early this weekend. I'm going to my room."

Adrienne sighed as the spirits filled her in about Theo's latest drama. Adam cheating on her brother? She hadn't predicted that happening, though truthfully, she hadn't peered into that aspect of her brother's life in a long time.

"I'm sorry that Adam's an idiot," she stated sincerely.

Theo didn't look surprised that his sister knew immediately what was going on. There wasn't much that anyone could hide from her.

"It's my fault. I almost killed him. Relationships don't last after something like that. It makes sense."

Adrienne frowned at these words.

"The spirits say that people have endured worse and stuck together. Adam's not allowed to kiss other people and still have the moral high ground."

Theo smiled weakly, but didn't look convinced.

"You're a good sister, Rien. I'm just going to go to my room. Tell our parents that I'm here, but I don't want to be disturbed."

"Did you hear that? It sounds like Theo."

Abe pulled away from his amorous embrace to scan the room for their son. Roman whimpered slightly as Abe pulled away from him, but the mention of his oldest son was pulling his attention from his husband.

"Already? It's barely Saturday morning, and that kid doesn't show up until at least noon. Something must be wrong."

"You're going to get through this," Adrienne promised, hugging her brother tightly to emphasize how sincere her vision was. "There's other people out there who you haven't almost killed. Your roommate, for example. The spirits say that he's got feelings for you. That blue girl you go to school with too. She thinks a lot about you."

Theo scoffed, despite being intrigued by this information.

"Despina? No, she has a crush on Prince Jasper of Strangetown. I think they're secretly dating or something. Sebastian though....His gold eyes are gorgeous. They say only the strongest demons had them and passed them down to their powerful descendants." Theo shook his head to clear his thoughts. He was in love with Adam and not interested in a new boyfriend. Nothing would change that. "I don't need to date anyone else. I'm dating Adam."

"What's this about Adam? Do you want to invite him for dinner tomorrow? Your father is making a casserole, so there should be plenty for guests."

Theo shook his head quickly, unable to even think of sitting next to Adam and pretending things were fine in front of his family. Between this and the strange look on Adrienne's face that seemed to be trying to tell him something, Abe had some suspicion of what was going on

"Are you having boy trouble?" Abe asked gently, reaching to hug his son, only to have Theo pull away. "It's okay, Theo. Everyone has rough patches in relationships. Everyone. It's perfectly normal. Tell me about what's happening, and your father and I can help."

Theo hesitated, trying to hold up an expression of confidence and completely failing. His bottom lip quivered as he blinked back tears. He wouldn't let anyone know what had happened. He couldn't. Adam was supposed to be his forever relationship, but at the moment, Theo couldn't even imagine them sitting together at lunch anymore.

"Dad...how do you know a guy is cheating on you? K-kissing someone at a party counts as cheating, right? It's not just about sex?"

"Oh, Theodosius, come here."

Upon hearing the sympathetic tone in his father's voice, Theo cracked, falling to the floor sobbing. Abe crouched next to him, holding out a reassuring hand for his son to hold.

"Did Adam kiss someone else at a party?" When Theo nodded, Abe sighed. "Oh, buddy, I'm sorry. That's always hard to deal with, and it's not your fault."

"It is my fault," Theo sobbed, breaking Abe's heart to see him suffering. "I almost killed him and he's afraid of me and the scars on his face are horrible, and I feel so bad looking at it and-and-"

Theo broke into fresh sobs, unable to continue his sentence. Abe squeezed his hand reassuringly, stroking Theo's hair like he had when Theo was a child.

"Hey. I'm right here. You're going to get through this. I know how much your first heartbreak hurts, but it gets better. It always gets better even when you think it can't. I promise you, one day, all of this will be something you laugh about with your future husband or wife."

"Why did you and Dad stay together when you cheated on each other? Was it just because of us kids or because you didn't think you could find anyone better?"

Roman made a miserable groan that he tried to muffle with his hands. This was his fault. He had set a terrible example for his children and now they were suffering for it.

He hadn't broken up with Abe when Abe cheated when they were teens. Abe had dumped him and nearly abandoned his son in college, while Roman remained a perfect doormat for Abe. He had tried to cling onto the relationship too hard because he needed a place to stay and help with Theo, while believing that the demonic contract they'd made would keep Abe's heart true to him.

And he'd never technically cheated on Adrian with Abe, but that was a very flimsy technicality. Roman was, to this day, very sexuallly interested in Adrian, but those feelings had always paled in comparison to his feelings for Abe. He knew that Theo had seen the old paparazzi photos of him and Abe taken shortly after Adrian's death for certain, and each day he prayed Adrienne and Luciana never stumbled upon them and realized just how much of an ass their father had been in the wake of Adrian's death. He had been technically single at the time, true, but the fact that the papers could even make a case that Roman married Adrian for his money and was complicit in his death was shameful. The fact that Adrian had barely been dead a few months before explicit photos of Roman and his ex started to appear was embarrassing to one day have to explain to his daughters. His early twenties had been a shitshow that one day his kids were going to learn about, and Roman was terrified to preach to angsty teenagers about proper behavior when he was hardly a good example.

And Ulyssa. Roman groaned again at the thought of having to deal with that mess as the kids grew up. He'd cheated on Abe in the worst possible way, and Abe had stayed with him. They'd done countless hours of therapy to overcome it, but the scars of Roman's affair were all over their family. Theo had a little brother he resented, he hated his godmother, and he'd seen a parent once again take a cheater back, glad to put the whole thing behind them.

No wonder Theo was so confused when it came to relationships; Roman had never provided a proper example for his son to follow. Everything about Abe had been school boy fantasy and eternal demonic contracts and magical feats of love defeating evil. Roman could see his fingerprints all over Theo's wild ideas of forever loves, young marriages, and magic binding two people together for a higher purpose. He had done this to his son and then punished Theo for following in his own footsteps. After all the care he had taken to be better than his own parents, Roman had failed.

"I can't break up with him," Theo sobbed to Abe. "This is just a small challenge when we're going to be together for the rest of our lives."

"Theo, you're almost fifteen," Abe replied. "Most people don't end up marrying who they dated at fourteen. It's just not statistically likely. People grow and change over the years, and by the time you graduate high school, you and Adam might not even have anything in common anymore."

"That's not true," Theo insisted. "He's going to be grounding my abilities for the rest of my life unless Lukas feels compelled to undo it and...and...please don't tell Dad, please, but...Adam and I sometimes have sex. Completely protected with magic and condoms, I promise! Until recently, we had that in common, and I hope someday we will again."

Roman's heart dropped on the floor, shattering before him. He didn't know what to process first.

His son had gone against his parents' requests to abstain from sex, which was just one of the shards piercing Roman's heart. All of the worries about teen pregnancies or negative reputations rose again in his mind, though they were quickly overtaken by rage aimed at the teenager Roman had never liked. He had been right to distrust Adam and his intentions. Adam had used his son sexually, and now was surely cheating on Theo with his replacement. If the boy wasn't protected by absurdly powerful magic users, Roman would be paying Adam Darktide a visit.

The worst part of it, though, was the request Theo had made to his father. Not only was Theo listing sex as a shared interest to remain in a toxic relationship, which again made Roman question his parenting, but Theo had only felt comfortable telling Abe about it. He had actually begged Abe to promise not to tell Roman, telling Roman exactly how much trust his son had with him. He was afraid of Roman's reaction, and rightfully so. Roman was incensed by this revelation to the point of not knowing which teenager to start screaming at first. He didn't have the same demonic powers as his son, but Roman was still a hybrid. He could maybe scorch the doorframe of the academy a little before a magic user caught him.

But a calmness suddenly took hold of him that he couldn't explain and all desire to burn down Theo's school dissolved away. Roman frowned, bringing up the idea of someone hurting his son in any way in his mind and finding a resigned peace instead. This wasn't Roman's reaction, which meant....

Abe was the calm one. He was comforting their son without flying into a rage or threatening to murder a fourteen year old student. Roman was borrowing Abe's patience against his will, allowing him to step back from his own feelings and focus on Theo's.

And Theo had a lot of feelings to deal with. Namely, the twisted view he seemed to have about what a relationship was actually was about. Roman had to undo some of the damage he had unknowingly done to his son before Theo made the mistakes that he'd made.

"Theo, buddy, we need to have a talk," Roman began. He approached his son to sit next to him, but Theo's face was frozen in panic and he gripped Abe's hand harder than before.

Roman's face fell as he saw the fear in his son's eyes. Theo hadn't meant for him to overhear his conversation with his father and now he was terrified of Roman. The hundreds of tiny glass shards that had torn through his heart a mere moment ago returned at double their previous strength. This was what he had done to his son with his parenting. He looked at Theo's eyes and saw his own, pleading with his mother to love him and the baby she wanted dead.

He was his mother now, hurting the child he'd sworn to protect. He'd once stood over Theo's crib and promised him to love him unconditionally, and yet here Theo was, terrified of his father's reaction.

"Abe, why don't you start some hot chocolates for us," Roman suggested, giving his husband a pointed look. Abe hesitated for a moment, but eventually nodded.

"Good idea," he replied, giving Roman a look of his own conveying a warning about upsetting their son. "I don't think we've had our gourmet hot chocolate mix since Winterfest last year. I'll get lots of marshmallows for them, just the way you like, Theo."

Roman inched closer to his son and tried to project calmness. The last thing he needed was for Theo to run away.

"Dad, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have, a-and you're so disappointed, I know, and I know I'm grounded until university, but I love him. Even now that he's been acting so weird, I still love him," Theo sobbed. "Please don't take me out of school, all my friends are there and-"

"Theo, take a breath. I'm not angry with you, and you're not grounded even if I thought I could enforce that punishment. I'm disappointed with some of your choices, but I've been your age and I know what it's like. Your father and I try to set limits for you and your siblings to protect you from making the same mistakes that we did when we were young. Trust me, I understand what love feels like at your age, and I get it."

"You do?" Theo asked, still hesitant to open up to his father. "Because of your relationship with Dad?"

Roman shook his head.

"Oh, buddy, I never thought that I'd be telling one of my kids about this, but I had relationships other than with your father. When I went to Princess Zarah's, your father and I were in a loosely defined relationship, and I slept with other people. Mostly, it was just Ulyssa, but I flirted when I could."

"Ew, you and Aunt Ulyssa used to hook up when you were my age? Even before Georgiana?"

Roman laughed softly. Ulyssa was still a sore subject, but Theo needed to hear the truth, especially when it made him too horrified to think about his own troubles.

"Yep. We stopped when I found out about you, and she met Maura, but back then, our feelings and the friendship between us felt incredibly overwhelming. And things with your father? I felt like I would die without him some days. He understood me like no one else and was incredibly handsome as a bonus. We rushed into a sexual relationship before we were ready because I was afraid of him leaving me, which-"

"I don't want to hear about your sex life with Dad," Theo whined. "Gross. Or anything to do with Aunt Ulyssa either."

Roman smiled. Theo wasn't as closed off as he was a moment ago, proving that being open with his son was actually helping their relationship despite his fears.

"Okay, okay. You get the point though. I loved your father like you presumably love Adam, and I ignored a lot of red flags because of my feelings. I wasn't confident in my relationship and there were times that your father had doubts too. We clung together because our lives were threatened, plus we had you to think about, and we weren't ready for any of what happened. Sure, your father and I are still together, but there were times in our relationship where it would have probably been healthier if we'd gone our separate ways. In trying to hold on to each other, we pushed too hard in places. We could have saved ourselves a lot of pain if we had been smarter about our relationship and let go when we needed to."

"So you think that I need to break up with Adam," Theo murmured. "That taking a break would help us be together in the future?"

Roman's head throbbed, trying to ignore the burning anger he felt for Adam Darktide so that he could be a better father. The last thing he wanted was that boy anywhere near his son.

"If it's meant to be, then it will happen," Roman said after a brief pause. "He'll be grounding your powers probably for the rest of your life, like you said. A connection like that won't be easy to shake. Right now though? You need to protect yourself and value what you can bring to a relationship. If Adam is kissing other boys, then he's not respecting you, and you owe it to yourself to put your foot down. I know it hurts now, but there will be other people to date who respect you and will be there for you. Right now, that person isn't Adam."

"But it's my fault that he's like this," Theo replied. "If I hadn't hurt him, he'd be happy like he used to. None of this would be happening."

Roman's blood pressure spiked again at this thought, despite the soothing waves of calm radiating toward him from the kitchen.

"Theo, what happened between you and Adam was an accident. You weren't charged by your coven with a crime and they sent you away to protect yourself from further accidents, not as a punishment. You need to drop this idea that you were at fault for any of it. Do you really think that if anyone thought the accident was your fault, your Aunt Lucy wouldn't sue them into bankruptcy?"

Theo smiled at the idea of his aunt taking on the coven and probably winning despite not being magical in the slightest.

"Yeah, you're right. She'd have demons tormenting Adam's mom until she was nicer to me," he replied. His voice was steadier than before, though tears still filled his eyes.

"So it's not your fault that Adam got hurt," Roman concluded. "From what I hear, you helped save him despite being hurt yourself. It sounds like Adam has a lot to heal from, but you're not responsible for that. You can let go of him without feeling guilty, I promise you. It might even be the kindest thing you can do for him. He sounds very confused at the moment."

"Dad? Did...did you ever love Adrian as much as you love Dad?"

Roman paled at the question, his mind racing to come up with an appropriate response.

"It's just that...I don't love anyone more than I do Adam," Theo continued, taking his father's silence as his answer. "There's no one at school I like more than him, and even all the people at the dance couldn't come close to making me feel what he does. Does this mean that i have to spend my whole life with someone I settled for?"

Roman stared at the wall, desperately trying to find anything in his brain to tell his son without unintentionally saying the wrong thing. Had his feelings for Adrian been as strong as his feelings for Abe? Had he ever felt anything with Claudia or Ulyssa that even came close to how Abe made him feel?

"That...is a very complicated question," he tried. "You're not me, and you will make your own choices in life, so you can't completely compare yourself to anyone else. In the beginning, I think I loved Adrian as much as I loved your father, or at least I thought I did. Theo, you're still very young and so much in your life will inevitably change by the time you're my age. Your father and I were different when we were your age. We were both running from a bad family situation and we only had each other to hold onto, but Theo, that's not love, that's desperation. I was dealing with powers I didn't realize I had and then your father got pregnant, and my family...well, our attention then was on surviving and making sure that you were safe. When it came down to it, your father and I were very different from each other. I was trying to embrace my supernatural abilities, while your Dad was afraid of them. He wanted freedom to explore life as a young adult and I wanted commitment. We weren't a good match back then and it would have been settling if we had tried to force things to work. Adam is not the only boy in the world. You may find someone else and realize that all this time, you were settling for Adam."

Theo looked at his dad curiously. He had asked a question about Adrian and received an answer all about his father, which was an answer in itself. Marrying Adrian made sense on paper, but the spark wasn't there. It was as Theo feared. He felt that spark for Adam and there was no guarantee that he would ever feel it for someone else. His parents hadn't lasted this long together because they made sense on paper; they had something special between them, and their dedication to preserving it was what kept them together.

He had no idea of what that meant for him and Adam, but it was oddly nice to have his father actually talk with him instead of yelling about rules. Maybe this newfound openness was Theo's chance to ask other burning questions he had for his dad that would likely never be answered in his lifetime.

"Dad, what was my grandmother like? I don't really remember her from when I was younger, and sometimes we talk about the Great Demons in school and it makes me wonder about her. I know she's gone now, but-"

"I don't know a single thing about that woman, except that she wanted you to die to save herself," Roman interrupted quickly. A carefully practiced mask replaced the rare openness on his face before Theo could continue his question. "That's all that you need to know about her. Let's check on those hot chocolates your father said he started. That's much better than dredging up the past, right? Right."

Theo sighed, but followed his father into the kitchen. Roman had all but sprinted there, desperate to leave his son's question behind him. Theo had a bunch of questions that he'd love for his father to answer about his life and the past, but Roman was never open to answering them. Theo knew all about the Helios side of his family, but very little about the Bellamys. His great-aunt Wanda sometimes rattled off impressive facts about the Bellamy family, but she never talked about how it felt to experience it all or be near the people he read about in history books. Finally getting some answers to his questions was probably the only thing his parents could do to keep his mind off of Adam, but that didn't seem to be happening any time soon.

"You know that I love you, right? I'm sure that you'll make the right decision about Adam," Roman said, pulling his son in for a hug before the teen could ask any further questions or run away.

"What is the right decision?" Theo asked warily. "Everyone is telling me to break up with him, is that the right choice? I know we have something special, but what if he won't stop kissing other guys? What if I want to kiss Ewan again?"

"Ewan? Who the hell is Ewan?"

Roman reacted too quickly to cover up his reaction to hearing his son's sordid confession, and Theo noticed, immediately taking a step away from his father.

"A friend. Just a friend. And Adam's half brother. Oh look, my hot chocolate is ready. I'll go drink it in my room. Thanks, Dad, good talk."

Theo scurried as quickly as he could without spilling his drink before his father could ask any further questions about boys he may or may not have kissed.

"This discussion isn't over, Theodosius!"

Abe poked his head into the kitchen upon seeing Theo's quick escape.

"Everything good here? I think I saw a teenaged blur run past me. I hope you weren't too hard on him, Ro. We talked about this, remember?"

"Your mother? Why would he be asking about her? I thought this was about a boy."

"Everything's fine," he groaned. "Just Theo admitting to kissing someone other than Adam and asking about my mother of all things. He's going to end up pregnant or dead at this rate, Abe."

Roman sighed, rubbing his suddenly aching temple.

Roman crossed his arms defensively.

"He was full of questions apparently. He wanted to know about my marriage to Adrian too. Like I'm the one who has to answer questions! He's kissing Adam's brother now apparently too. I told you that boarding school would make him-"

Roman stopped mid sentence, his rant suddenly fading from his mind as another wave of calmness overcame his anger. Beside him, Abe smirked.

"You're out of practice, Bellamy. For a demon hybrid, you're not really catching onto demonic marriage very well. Calm down. Theo's growing up and trying to find his place in the world. The twins aren't far behind him, so we have to be ready for questions about the past or about our family. Think of everything that you had to piece together on your own about your parents and grandparents. Theo is just looking for a connection to his roots and experimenting with relationships. Besides, I thought you hated Adam. You should be celebrating Theo kissing someone else."

"Not Adam's brother," Roman groaned miserably. "His brother? Who knows what he's like? He could be worse."

"Or he might be great. That's up to Theo to find out and us to support him as best as we can. Now grab your hot chocolate and sit at the table with me. If the kids are going to start asking about...sensitive subjects, we should probably have some answers prepared."

"You've been reading those parenting books again, haven't you?" Roman teased, doing exactly what his husband had asked him to do.

Abe smiled mischievously.

"Come on, let's get started before you start getting ideas about chasing down every member in the Darktide family. That wouldn't end well for you and I'd much prefer you in one piece."

[thedoover-if]

i'll just call myself the avoidance anon (lol) and yes, we're doing much better, thank you! I'm happy to say that, as a big FU to my (ex) dad, I am now earning three times his salary. haha

anyways, on the subject of kids, I have this scenario where my PC have always wanted to have a child (totally not me btw) but obviously that didn't happen bc of the cheating and divorce. in a game I played recently, the MC's mother had artifical insemination to have a baby. so what if our PC did that too (we better be making big bucks as a marriage councellor or i'll sue) a year or two after the divorce.

I hc my PC as someone who overworks to cope (if I can't see you, you can't see me) and kinda just... forgets to take care of themselves at some point. while spending a day-off on their favorite cafe, they happen to see a happy family walk by and after almost a week of thinking, they're on their way to get an IUI. a few months later, its confirmed that they're pregnant and affectionately call the bundle of joy, 'my miracle'. ('I lost myself but I found you, my tiny miracle')

on the night of the accident, PC asked the sweet old couple next door to babysit bc they're working late aaand... there goes the plot. at some point after the accident, the ex-spouse somehow meets the child and is curious about the father and (possibly) gets even more heartbroken realizing PC most likely went through a pregnancy alone; the morning sickness, pregnancy cravings, and the heightened emotions on top of the soreness.

ex-spouse: 'oh, what are you drawing?'

(c/n): 'ms. penny said to draw my family. this is me; I'm a prince/princess.'

ex-spouse: "oh, is this your mommy and daddy, then?"

(c/n): 'no, mommy is the fairy godmother. that's daddy and his princess.'

ex-spouse: 'your daddy and... his princess?'

(c/n): 'mmh! mommy said my real daddy left to look for his true love, and that they lived happily ever after.'

(the skit is purely for emotional damage LOLOLOL)

ex-spouse is left to be a silent observer as he watches PC put the child to sleep by singing them a lullaby (think 'never grow up' by ts) and watch them be the mother they always wanted to be, except, the spot next to them was empty (different from his imagination) and the warm, loving gaze PC used to give him was now directed at someone else.

for extra angst, i'd like to imagine the ex-spouse's parents being aware that PC had a baby and sends birthday and holiday gifts for the little one. they were even there for the baby's birth. when the ex later called his parents to ask why they didn't say anything to him about the baby, they simply said 'it was none of his business'. of course, the parents would notice PC overworking themselves, but months later, they saw small, positive change with the PC, and when they opened up they were, in fact, pregnant, they didn't want their kid to ruin the happiness PC found (again)

at this point, it just became a mini-au of an au. I'M JSUT SO EXCITED FOR THIS IF JSJAKPQXNWO

hi again! aw that makes me really happy to hear and YESSS CONGRATS TO YOU!!!

uhm...this skit😭😭 emotional damage achieved anon😭 also i love never grow up!! well this story broke my heart WHYY. reading this makes me so glad i didnt add any kids into this horrible mix LOL. and by the end of the book itll just be up in the air what happens with MC and their partner, so you guys can just create whatever scenarios you want haha

and thank you for the excitment!!💗 sorry its taking so long, coding is such a drag (im really slow haha) but it hopefully shouldnt be too long anymore!!

[lasi-nariyoyo]

Can you do twice future spouse like you did with straykids?

Twice's future spouse

What is this reading about? Hi! I used the same format as the skz reading. I didn't get a lot of happy marriage energy (?) from this reading honestly, some members got really ugly cards, others are a bit better, but I guess that's how life works? Relationships are never perfect. I wish I could get happier cards though since they're my ult gg and I wish the best for them :') Also, I think I wrote "balance" 75 times in this post lmao

Disclaimer:

My readings are made for fun and you should read them for fun too. So don't take them seriously. 

Nayeon

rev devil, 5 of cups, 5 of wands

This is a terrible combination of cards for a relationship lmao

It doesn't begin as a genuine relationship, it might be something casual that develops in an unhealthy dependence on each other.

Probably a person looking at them might wonder "why are these two together?"

5 of cups has a variety of meanings that can be applied to this situation: in general I sense a lot of emptiness. But what is this emptiness linked to? It can be that Nayeon is in this relationship because she doesn't want to be alone (so she isn't really in love) or she might have real feelings but their relationship is so bad that she's suffering. Another option is that she loves someone else (an ex or someone she can't be with) and this current lover is just a very unhealthy way to move on from this unrequited love.

I see a lot of arguments too.

Jeongyeon

rev devil, rev 10 of wands, rev 2 of swords

Like Nayeon, her set begins with the same card. In this case I feel that one of them has genuine feelings, but for the other person it's a casual hook-up.

This might cause a lot of pain, but the other person will slowly develop some feelings, so I think there will be a more balanced relationship.

I feel there's a lot of thoughts and pros-cons done by these two.

The person who had feelings from the beginning might be wondering if it's worth to keep this relationship.

The person who is slowly falling is confused by their own emotions because they weren't expecting to be involved.

I sense a lot of openness and communication.

There might be an ultimatum as in "I like you, but if you don't like me back it's better to put an end to this because I'm in pain".

I have the impression that despite the shaky beginning, this might be a good pairing, I feel mature energy from both and they might find a good balance between them.

Momo

rev 7 of pentacles, rev 6 of pentacles, 7 of wands

It might be a stressful relationship.

There’s an imbalance in their relationship. One of them has more power, is richer, has more experience or stuff like that, at least at first. Knowing Momo, this card lowkey fit her because she used to date an older man who is a senior in the industry, so it might mean that she has a type, but of course there's also the possibility she's the older person in this case.

This might be the cause of stress, maybe they have a different view of the world or different priorities.

I think that the more they are together the more they find a balance though. It might be a harsh process, but I don't really feel like their relationship will end badly.

Sana

6 of wands, page of wands, rev ace of cups

It seems it’s a very happy relationship where they both support each other.

It’s probably a fun relationship too with a lot of flirting and laughs, like Sana herself.

There isn't only happiness though, rev ace of cups might imply some big negativity.

I don’t think this is related to one of them doing something negative though. It’s possible she’ll suffer a scandal related to her dating or maybe some of their plans end negatively? For example if they want to have a child, it will be complicated for them.

Or maybe someone around them isn’t happy about this couple, for example a parent that doesn’t approve of the partner. 

Or in general someone jealous like an ex or someone who wants to get between them.

I tend to believe this won’t disrupt their relationship since the previous cards had such a bright energy. 

Jihyo

rev 10 of wands, 7 of pentacles, ace of swords

Stress and responsibilities. It might be similar to Jeongyeon’s case, where she feels like she’s the only one putting effort in the relationship, or it might simply mean she’s too busy with her job to give her partner the attention they deserve.

Despite this, it’s a relationship that both parties want to cultivate and protect.

Ace of words is a particular card that opens to two outcomes: 1) they manage to build a more stress-free relationship and find a good life-work balance (and I tend to lean toward this interpretation since 7 of pentacles usually is a card that indicates rewards after the hardwork) 2) they understand they’re better off on their own and end their relationship peacefully.

In any case, I don’t feel ill feelings, not as many as the previous readings at least. A very mature and balance set, just like Jihyo.

Mina

rev king of swords, 7 of pentacles, rev 4 of cups, rev 9 of cups

It's a relationship that is unhealthy.

The other is too controlling or even straight up abusive.

My interpetation of the cards is that she manages to get out of this situation.

She might probably work hard on herself to heal and free herself from the negative energy of his partner.

Probably she might go to therapy.

I think she'll find a new stability and learn to appreciate more her own life, even if there isn't a significant other.

At the end of this process she might be able to welcome someone else as her lover.

Dahyun

rev 4 of pentacles, tower, rev knight of pentacles

This could be a relationship that begins pretty well. I think one of them or both were coming from a chaotic period, maybe after a break up.

The energy is positive at first, it's that of two people ready to open up again their heart, maybe even too much.

Then sh1t happens.

Sh1t might be anything. Someone might be cheating, maybe the they will trick them or betray them in a very dramatic way.

This happening will show the true colors of this partner.

Chaeyoung

4 of cups, queen of swords, rev the fool

I feel the people involved weren't really ready for a relationship because they were focused on the wrong things (like being interested in another person or missing an old lover).

Falling in love with each other wasn't really in their plans.

Probably thanks to their past experiences or because both partners are in a healthy state of mind, they're able to build a very solid relationship.

It's possible this person is a very structured and logical person, someone probably very different from Chaeyoung hence the surprise they both felt when they fell for each other.

The fool reversed when it comes to idols makes me think of some negligence when it comes to protecting their privacy.

Matching item scandal or a dispatch might be possible.

Tzuyu

rev lovers, queen of cups, rev 6 of wands

It sounds like an imbalanced relationship, one is truly in love while the other is there just for sex or money or prestige.

The queen of cups is a beautiful card that represent femininity and kindness, I think it suits Tzuyu's personality very well.

Unfortunately I don't think the other person appreciates any of her qualities.

Reversed 6 of wands can indicate broken promises, so it's possible the other person made her believe they truly loved her.

But I consider it as a positive card in this case, because it means she's now aware of what type of person she has next to her.

It might be painful, but it's a necessary step to take to move on.

[bouquetface]

Hello, I would like to participate in the game :D

My information:

My initials: MP

Date of birth: 19th August 2008.

Time: 23:20.

Birthplace: Hanoi, Vietnam.

Current location: Hanoi, Vietnam.

I am a highschooler and I’m in grade 11 (sorry about my bad English). My family has three people, including my mother, my older brother and me. I am currently in my era of choosing what job I will do later in life, include what university will I apply in. I’m stressed out because I am worried I won’t be able to follow my passion, which is psychology, and I don’t have money to take care of my family. My mother said I should study diplomacy, but I still have doubts about it.

I like to live somewhere else after I graduate university, but I don’t think my current (and also future) finance allows that happen 😭

About love, my love life hasn’t been easy for me, in my opinion. The relationships were toxic, so I am not dating or seeing anyone, focusing on my goals and my dreams. But if the opportunity comes and I get to develop myself, I will gladly take it.

I would love to know about my career choice and life path, about my future spouse, and will I get to live in another country or travel the world?

I’m so grateful that you open this game for everyone. Thank you and please take care of yourself!

Hi, sorry for the late response. I had a lot of unexpected personal stuff come up.

Career:

I can't tell you your exact careers so please take this as entertainment or simply suggestions.

You could work with homes/famillies or have a home office. EX: Home salon/esthetician. Its likely later in life you desire more independent work like being your own boss or being the boss/manager.

An example of working with homes and families would be like a family therapist, real estate agent or social worker. Your chart shows strong connection between home and career.

Rahu and Saturn ruling the 9th in vedic does indicate a struggle in getting higher education. You may switch majors making it take longer, You may take time off for unexpected reasons. Don't let this stress you out as this is not always the case.

Home/Family:

You could have a religious family. Multiple people may have been involved in your family - ex: aunts or grandmother helped raised you.

Your mom may have treated you very well almost like royalty. She could have built up your self esteem. She could be a social person and like inviting people over or often have conversations over phone.

Despite, this fun and social energy, she was not careless. She may have been strict too. The household likely had chores and/or rules.

Rahu 9th H, and 9th H ruler in 4th does indicate living far from the birth place. However, the ruler is Saturn so moving will not come without hardwork/effort. I have no way of telling if the move is to a different country or just a far city.

Marriage/Spouse:

Your spouse will be someone who enjoys going on adventures with you. You can enjoy fun trips (even small things like hiking, restaurants). The spouse can enjoy planning and organizing.

They are likely to be a chatty person. They are often well prepared for most situations. They are work well under pressure.

They can want to take the lead. They can be philosophical/religious. They are likely to be funny and educated. They can see the bigger picture. The possible problem is they can be stubborn. They believe their way/beliefs are correct, it can come off as arrogance at times.

Possible problem: You can encounter people who have ego probelms. They can be harsh, overly critical, and controlling. This is something to be cautious of in all partnerships - romantic, platonic and business.

Based on dasha periods, you are likely to find a romantic interest during June 2025-April 2028.

Feb2029-Feb2031 your 7th H and house of children is activated. However, this feels very young so instead of activating the children part of the 5th House, it could be the other topics it represents such as creativity, joy, recreational hobbies.

You are likely to be married 29-30.

Please leave feedback. Thanks!

[pianocat939]

Random Ideas of Yan Les Miserables Characters

Cursed ideas I thought of since I'm in this musical for my school's drama

If people like it, I might add more..I'm really interested in Marius.

Tw: mention of murder, kidnapping, Marius is a little freak and breaks into your home, manipulation, Eponine literally hates her life so much

(Know that this won't follow the entire plot of the book/musical. Nor do the ages of these characters- Ex. Javert is not an old geezer)

(MC/Reader is in some ways Cosette I suppose- not following her complete character though)

Marius

Type: Obssessive + Protective

The definition of sweet. Ever since he met you, he's been wanting to hold you in his arms and gently kiss you. His mind is filled with thoughts of you- just you. At night, he writes in a journal about his undying love and how no one else could make him feel this way.

If you deny his love for too long, he'll take drastic actions: when you're sleeping in your bed at night he'll slide in next to you to give snuggles and kisses- he just can't contain his yearning anymore! He also leaves gifts and letters on your window sill, a nice present for you to look at when you're all sad and need comfort! Or really, you could just come to him for comfort...

That being said, when he goes to fight the monarchs the entire time he thinks about protecting you, and nothing else. He's crazy when he fights to go absolutely batshit feral to keep you safe- and to ensure he'll be the one to return to you; that he'll be the only one confessing his love.

If there's another suitor, he'll first try to get you to love him. If that doesn't work, he won't hesitate to kill them.

He actually is quite possessive, he just doesn't show it as much.

Javert

Type: Possessive + Violent

(He is not an old geezer in this-)

Oh wow, out of all the people you decided to garner the attention of- it decided to be his. At first, he tries to deny his adoration for you but comes to a realization when he witnesses you interacting with someone else. He HATES it when you talk with someone that isn't him. You should only talk to him, you should only love him! He's your true love, your future spouse!

At first, he'll try to be normal and court you, but if you deny...Hell breaks loose. He'll kidnap you without hesitation, saying you're a criminal and need to be taken to prison under the laws of the government- only for the prison to be his home. There, you'll stay as his spouse. Don't worry about the world outside, just think about loving your rightful husband!

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to use marriage as a way to tie himself with you. Oh and-

He'll kill anyone who tries to help you escape or if you try to talk to anyone else.

Eponine

Type: Manipulative + Stalker

Instead of being in love with Marius, she's in love with you! If Marius is also in love with you, she'll try to push him away by manipulating both you and him. For example, with you, she'll try to say how much of a fool Marius can be at times and how he isn't fit for a role as husband. With him, she'll try to tell him that you're already in love with someone else or that you're in a relationship with someone else.

All her life she hasn't been gifted a single good fortune- shouldn't she get a happily ever after too?

If you deny her, or just simply don't notice her all that much she'll follow you around. She makes sure no one tries to court you and that she has a good chance of obtaining your love. Despite being poor, she's learned to be good at one thing- observing. She can memorize any piece of information of you and remember it for years- a true sign of love, no?

Please, just love her! She can't stand this suffering any longer! She doesn't wish to be the daughter of hated innkeepers', she wants to be known as the lover of someone so beautiful and etheral- which is you!

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Ngl, Marius being all soft and sweet is really indulgent of me-

- Celina

[rawesomesauce]

the ultimatum s3 thoughts so far

Lisa: Abuser! Liar! Pick me! She was embarrassing from start to finish and I already know her bird ass not coming to the reunion. Get off my screen.

Brian: I'm so sorry you're trapped with this woman. He seems like a genuinely good guy, honestly just co parent and detach yourself from that unhealed toxic ass banshee.

Trey: 9/10, He is almost the whole package, but I really think he should let Riah go if he can't compromise on her wanting to have some experiences before marriage, cuz as a 24 year old still figuring shit out, I empathize with all her worries. That being said-

Riah: GIRLY! If you want to live your life for you like you say you do, you don't need your man to come with you to the city especially if he don't wanna be there! Also, either move past him catching feelings or end the relationship. It isn't fair to dwell on things, especially cuz you knew the consequences coming into this. I love her though, she's real one and I feel like we'd be friends.

James: I hate when men make their trauma everyone else's problem. Either make steps to heal or shut the fuck up! Why should the women around him accommodate to his brooding? Ryann deserves a man who is willing to communicate with her because she's such a catch, and I think she's settling for James and he can feel it too, so he strings her along so he feels he has the upper hand in the relationship. I hope to God she pushes for him to go to therapy or honey there's a big storm coming.

Ryann: I love this girl omg, she is so sweet and down to earth. But 7 years? They need time apart to date other people for real so she can realize some men are ready to put in effort immediately and don't need to be pulled by the ear. But I just know she'll settle anyways so it's sad.

Roxanne: At first I liked her, but realized she's one of those girl boss feminists very much giving barbieland at the beginning of the movie. She needs a wake up call, but her man is a coffee table so she's not gonna get one.

Alex: Before I get into why he bothers me, I have to point out I am so glad he put Roxanne in her place. She met her match with this guy and it pissed both of them off to not be able to walk over their partners which is why both of them came back to their exes with such relief. BUT this douchebag keeps telling Kat that she's "pleasant" to be around, and while that's a reasonable request for a future spouse to not be generally unpleasant, the way he says it is very much giving "keep sweet" if you know what I mean.

Kat: Referring to my previous statement, I wonder what religion this couple follows if any because the way Kat "submits" to Alex is familiar and disheartening to watch. That being said, Kat is such a people pleaser, she literally agreed with every single person on the show the entire time and the only time she argued or said a conflicting opinion it was in DEFENSE of Alex. So yeah, I worry for her.

Antonio: S to the I to the M to the P. Like i'm sorry roxanne despises you and you don't have the self respect or insight to vocalise it, because we KNOW you KNOW you just don't wanna say it. But in his defense, I think Roxanne is verbally abusive so she reinforces his insecurities and uses finances as leverage over him. If he wasn't so focused on self loathing he would see his relationship is a form of self harm and would take steps to leave. But I'm not a fan of victim blaming so I genuinely feel bad for him.

[sparklywaistcoat]

Click the link for an interactive tool for creating a safety plan for leaving an abusive relationship. Below there's more information about leaving as well.

Although the tool itself is a good one, please use it with caution if you are in an abusive relationship. Abuse often escalates if the abuser finds out that you're thinking about leaving.

Don't leave printouts where your abuser can find them.

Use a device your abuser doesn't have access to, or else be sure your abuser can't open your computer or phone or tablet and clear your browsing history when you're done using this.

Commit what you need to to memory if you can't write it down safely.

I cannot stress enough how important it is never to give your significant other access to your phone or computer if you can at all help it.

You're not proving that you're trustworthy or that you love them by giving them access; you're giving them an opening to violate your privacy and, if they're abusive, a way to further control you.

(Pro tip: If your partner is demanding access to your phone and computer, that's a major red flag. Run.)

I also cannot stress enough that you should keep a bank account in your own name.

If you don't already have an account like this, please open one ASAP if you can do so safely. Joint accounts are fine and dandy, but you also need to be able to control your own money in case you have to get out.

(Pro tip: If your partner demands that you pool all your money into a joint account and gets mad if you want to open or keep your own separate account, that's a major red flag. Run.)

Things that I did when I was preparing to leave my relationship included:

secretly opening a post office box so that my abuser no longer had access to my mail

secretly ordering vital records for myself and my children and sending them to the PO box (birth certificates, marriage certificate)

secretly opening a safe deposit box at the bank for documents and other items I didn't want my abuser to have access to or to know about, especially once I hired an attorney to start divorce proceedings

secretly opening a storage unit where I kept suitcases with clothes for myself and my kids in case we had to leave suddenly (fortunately this never happened)

while I was still living with my abuser, only having phone conversations with my attorney and other necessary professionals when I was out of the house and in a place where I couldn't be overheard, and telling my attorney to never call me without an appointment

secretly opening an email account that my abuser didn't have the address to and using that for all my divorce correspondence and planning

when my abuser was out of the house, making copies of family financial records that my abuser had in his possession, and then hiding the copies where I was reasonably sure he wouldn't find them. (Do this if you are married or otherwise have joint assets because having those records makes it harder for your spouse/partner to hide assets or prevent you from getting your share. Also do spy shit like making sure you put everything back exactly as you found it. Be very, very careful if you choose to do this step, because if your abuser finds out it can escalate the situation. I was lucky that my ex wasn't particularly nosy, not least because he didn't think I had it in me to do that kind of thing. Your abuser may be different.)

keeping the non-emergency number for the police department and the contact info and addresses for battered women's shelters in my phone contacts

I was lucky that I had the money to be able to do things like open a PO box and rent a storage unit. If you can't afford these kinds of things, find a trusted friend or family member that you can send your mail to and store documents and other things with. Make sure that this is a friend or family member who agrees that you are in an abusive relationship; you don't want to enlist a flying monkey by mistake if you can help it.

Please, please, please be canny with this, and be safe.

[vizthedatum]

I've been having PTSD flashbacks all week, and somehow I'm okay but... I have uncontrollable intrusive memories of the breakup from a year ago (and I am so much better for the breakup, even though I felt so incredibly scared)

literally having a super nice morning today, feeling in love and loved by my partners and friends

had a nice meeting with a coworker!!

eating breakfast! about to take a shower and fold laundry while doing more work! getting ready for another meeting this afternoon!

really really appreciating my partner and gf - and how much support they provide - and I hope I'll be able to do the same (and then I tell myself: I do support the people I love. I know I do because I am intentional about it)

And I remembered how much they pretended to care for me but didn't

(PTSD flashback)

I remember how, just a couple days before I left my ex-spouse, they told me they didn't want me to be in debt... how they showed fake concern for me in between tantrumming at me (since I spent much of my savings on my brother last year and also looking for apartments (I wonder if they knew that I lost money by being scammed since they put me under so much stress that I had to find an apartment so quickly... I wonder if they knew how much I was harassed by the landlady I eventually signed a lease with... I wonder if they knew how much a fucking ableist asshole they were and how much I still had empathy and love for them all the same. I wonder if they feel good about dismantling my life that I'm in debt now while they enable our friend who has addiction issues - I wonder if they felt any significant grief knowing that they can't even be a good friend to her while I MOURNED at how much she overdosed this year))

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idk what's sadder:

the denial and gaslighting of my very valid feelings

or

their inability to have empathy for someone they claim to have loved

or

their readiness to tell people how unreasonable I was - kind of hilarious to think that if I were having a mental health episode (which I have in front of them and it didn't go well!) that they would NOT have my back and would fucking leave me to perish

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I fell in love with someone who could not be there for me. Meanwhile, yes I was disabled and increasingly became more so due to the stress, but I showed up for them - even when I couldn't perform chores around the house - I showed up for them time and time again.

I dedicated myself to them. I married them. I let them do a fucking spiritual marriage ritual that was SO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME... every single day - I insisted on it because I wanted to show them how much I loved them, despite everything.

I was foolish to think they could uphold their vows... or that they'd want to repair our relationship.

I know I wasn't stupid but I gave them too many chances.

Early on in our relationship, there was a time when they told me that they felt "betrayed" because I couldn't pack on time when we were leaving for a con... they never wanted to post-process why they felt betrayed.

Yet... they betrayed me multiple times every single year of our relationship.

And last year, they betrayed me so badly in so many ways.

I wonder if they know how genuinely I want them to fucking grow up and heal - I wonder if they know how badly I wish we were amicable exes... so that one day, we could game or talk again.

But I never want to talk to them again - they will never empathize with me or understand the seriousness of the harm they have caused unless they fucking heal.

So yeah, I think I can one day forgive them for everything - our relationship seems like a ghost that I'm not tethered to anymore... but my forgiveness and peace will never negate how much I trusted and loved you... and how much you didn't fucking care.

[esters-notepad]

Okay, I'll respond in a reblog instead of in a comment, because I find the comments you've gotten so far rather off-putting...

You ask how I can read about love and support in the Bible and still call love a sin. The answer to that is that there are different kinds of love, different expressions of love. You may have heard of the different Greek words for love: storge, eros, philos and agape. The love we are called to share is agape, divine love. Storge (familial love), eros (sexual love) and philos (platonic love) all have their places, but none of them are without limits and limitation. Only agape is supposed to flow freely.

Particularly when it comes to eros, I find a lot of limitations in the Bible. There is 1 Cor 6:13b-20, which says that sleeping with a prostitute is not okay. (I interpret it to mean that any casual sex is not okay, whether paid or not, but that's not explicit in the text.) There is Ex 20:14, which says that sex outside of marriage is not okay. (There goes casual sex, and also sex between unmarried people in a loving relationship.) There is Matt 5:31-32, which says that both having a divorce and marrying a divorcee equals adultery. The most extreme I can think of is Matt 5:28, which says that lusting after somebody (who isn't your spouse, I assume) equals adultery.

And every time I find a mention of same-sex eros, it's to say that it's not okay. The first verse I stumbled over was Rom 1:26-27, which says it's something unnatural which comes over confused people who don't want to give glory to God. I don't like it either, but that's what it says. Other verses are even nastier, calling it sin and abomination. I don't realky want to repeat them, but I could look them up for you, if you want me to. Have you found any Bible verses that mention a situation where M/M or F/F sex is said to be okay? Please tell me where it is, if you have!

Are you aware of the difference between side b and side x? Side x are the guys who think God hates fags. I don't. Everything I read in the Bible tells me that God loves all his children. You, me, everybody. With his divine love, agape. Love each other as I have loved you, Jesus said to his disciples (John 13:34). The way Jesus loves us isn't erotic. He's my brother and my Lord, not my husband.

I don't believe sexuality should be hidden. But I do believe it should be controlled. For unmarried people, that means chastity. For married people, it means fidelity. If a married person becomes sexually interested in somebody else than their spouse, I think it would be a sin to go ahead and act on those feelings. I think they should be ignored, suppressed, redirected towards the spouse. For unmarried people, if they get interested in somebody they can't marry for whatever reason (be it because the other person is already married, is of the same sex, or is plain not interested), I think those feelings should not be acted on either.

I haven't said anything about transsexuality yet, but this is much too long as it is. I hope that I managed to explain my position. Thank you for asking, thank you for reading, and I would love to hear what you think about my theological ramblings!

I write this with true sincerity and interest in discussion, but I don’t quite understand side B Christian’s. This is a topic I just learned about recently, so I would love for some open dialogue with those in the community.

I am a side A Christian, and a trans man. I am just curious how those who chose the side B life read through the love and support in the Bible and the historical knowledge regarding the way Jesus lived and guided us to live and feel that their love, the love that we are all meant to share, is still a sin and should be ignored, hidden, or shamed even if it is just internally? I am also curious how this stance holds against others, do you believe that those who do act on their attraction or go forward with their transition are acting in sin? Or is this simply a personal choice? I truly just want to hear more as I don’t understand and we as Christian’s are taught to listen to one another and learn.