#httyd slander

[lilliths-httyd-blog]

i just witnessed someone confuse Dragons: Nine Realms for a chinese knockoff and if that doesn't tell you all you need to know about it then i don't know what does

[youraveragerat]

‼️‼️this is not my art y'all all credits go to the artist pls here's the og post from them I'm just using it as a reference to make a point ‼️‼️

https://pin.it/4jOW5apc8

But OH MY LAWDD I CANT THUG THIS ONE OUT

Lowkey? Hate the light fury

Lowkey? Hate httyd homecoming

Lowkey? Hate httyd 3 and everything made after it

Need I say less?

Nah in all seriousness tho I hate how they just disregard hiccup and Toothless' bond in the 3rd movie and beyond.

TOOTHLESS TOOK ON AN ALPHA BEWILDERBEAST TO SAVE HICCUP?? THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY'VE BONDED. Their whole dynamic is that there are one together. But the second we see slim, smooth, glitter lady dragon we out ✌️

This is why I rlly didn't like the light fury. I rlly like the idea of a night fury subspecies. I really like the idea of those two species making a mixed species. They all had the right parts but they put them in the wrong places and it just... Doesn't work for me idk. Hiccup is this whiny guy who can't stand his best friend leaving, which is understandable but the way they portray him makes him look like Ralph from wreck it ralph breaks the Internet. Just an annoying character. And toothless is just horny for lady dragon. UR TELLING ME HE DID THE LIGHTNING THING WITH HICCUP ON HIM? HE DOESNT KNOW IF THAT WOULD KILL HICCUP?? He was just so desperate to save the babe. Like thank God hiccup didn't die?? In the second movie toothless risked his life for hiccup in a way no dragon had done before. In the third movie toothless RISKED Hiccup's life just to make some glitter babies

I just - idk it's weird to me I rlly don't like the hidden world

Yeah the animation is nice but even then they took the character designs and airbrushed them to look like they wash everyday. Need I remind to you THEY'RE VIKINGS?? THEYRE DIRTY. THEY'RE ROUGH. WHERE DID HICCUP'S FRECKLES GO?? WHY DOES ASTRIDS HAIR LOOK LIKE THE SILKY SMOOTH HAIR OF AN ANGEL? in the first movie they look rough and Viking like. Hiccup doesn't look like a Viking because he's a wimp and they portray that without beautifying him and making him pretty. In the 2nd movie they do this a little less but I can still tell that these people aren't models.

I could go on and on tbh but I'm not gonna contaminate my account with more httyd slander so hehe haha. I'll rant to people who wanna listen in Dms cause I CANNOT thug this one out 🙏

[thecosmicmap]

“Night Furies can’t fly long distances without rest.”

— Grimmel the Grisly.

The “Night Fury killer” everyone.

[nartml]

Httyd 2 Hiccup, after defeating a guy who can mind control dragons to do his bidding, and who made Toothless kill his dad: "We are the voice of peace, and bit by bit we will change the world. You see, we have something they don't. Oh, sure, they have armies, and they have armadas, but we have...our dragons!"

THW Hiccup, after defeating a goofy Viggo-rip off in a hilariously easy battle, no casualties suffered: "Eh, yeah, nvm boys. Time to pack it up, the world fr is too dangerous for dragons rn, we'll have to take a raincheck on our so-far incredibly successful revolution and cross our fingers people will just magically become accustomed to the dragons, which I've made disappear off the face of the earth"

[violet-moonstone]

No???

I think the fuck not, netflix, you take that back

Edit: this was posted on the httyd facebook page (for FATHER'S DAY WHICH IS WILD) so I guess not netlfix's fault but uhh still a bad take

Imagine making a httyd post for Father's day and not making it about Hiccup and Stoick

[thereweredragonshere]

I want to hit Dean DeBlois over the head with a gift of the night fury shaped frying pan

[midcomics]

[the-writing-trash-panda]

HTTYD CapCuts part 2

[saturnniidae]

Toothless and the Light Fury are my least favorite interracial couple.

[dorkycreature-89]

me: i didn't like the live action httyd

this person:

i-

[hiccupbutpurple]

I love that Hiccup had a whole episode of rtte dedicated to reminding him to makes plans and not act impulsively out of vengeance or other emotions.

I love that he was the one to remind Stoick that they need to make plans when he struggled with his fears.

And the Hiccup in The Hidden World appears.

(Sure he kinda did a similar thing to Stoick when his fear took over but eventually Stoick listened to reason and he didn’t make any truly dramatic decisions, Gobber and the others were there to remind Hiccup to make a plan. The others could’ve done more but you can’t tell me Hiccup would’ve made such a stupid choice just because of his emotions after the things he learnt. The part where Gobber was like ‘I feel like I’m always asking you this question, but is there an actual plan’ just proves how out of touch it is because Hiccup has learnt to use his brain even when there is little time to make solid plans.

Yes Hiccup can act impulsively from time to time but after rtte, those times had solid reasons and were not decisions that were ‘let’s leave our island and leave ourself completely vulnerable without making any sort of plan for what we are going to do’ levels of stupid.)

Rtte Hiccup would be horrified at what THW Hiccup does.

[lilliths-httyd-blog]

so i'm going to be an absolute negative nancy about this film for the forseeable future. it literally looks almost shot for shot the same fucking thing as the 2010 movie except less appealing. so like, why even make it? even that fucking cursed novel adaptation of the first film had more new shit going on than this one.

fuck it. i'm gonna watch the live action movie and compare it with that fucking novel just to see which one is better. the novel had me fucking wheezing so it'll be no competition.

but yeah uh. hot take, i'm not happy with the casting of gerard butler as stoick. if i wanted to watch him play stoick i'd watch the original film. i know he's gonna save this movie in the eyes of some people just because his presence on set likely won't ruin the character, and i totally get it. but i'm sitting here like, okay, but why even bother remaking it if you're just doing the same thing all over again???

my main thing is that this is just feeding into that "live action is the superior form of film production and animation is for babies" narrative and also this feels like something that was done just to keep an IP/merch sales alive. it feels disingenuous (especially coming from a director who has once expressed distaste for live action remakes like. bro). it speaks volumes as to the current state of the industry.

if you wanna pump out more httyd-related media for the sake of the monies, just adapt some of the school of dragons stories into movies or whatever. it's way more original and will catch way less flack (despite uh. the game not existing anymore.) what i'm saying is i want school of dragons content so fucking bad you don't understand i need it i need it i need it i need it i ne—

[cloverofhope]

Httyd is just a 2 part movie series actually

Yeah I don't know where people are getting this idea of a third movie? It's so bizarre-

[thecosmicmap]

Strap in folks this is gonna be a long one.

So as we know Dean Deblois is the writer of HTTYD2 and 3. As a writer you have a list of rules you should follow. One such rule is “show don’t tell.”

Dean disregarded this rule and we mainly see it with Grimmel and the Night Fury genocide. In the movie he tells us “I hunted every last night fury except yours” yet Grimmel has nothing to show for it. No trophies, no night fury hide cloak, not even a claw. The most we get is a few “facts” about Night Furies that aren’t even true, or can’t be proven to be true because we’ve only ever seen one Night Fury.

“Night Furies can’t survive the cold.” Yet Hiccup tells us (in GOTNF which is canon) that winter in Berk lasts for most of the year.

“Night Furies can’t fly long distances” Yet Toothless’ wings are large and wide, which allows him to glide for long periods of time.

“Furies mate for life.” We would never know because we only see one Night Fury in the entire franchise. And if we take a look at other dragons, it seems they only see their mate during mating season.

And why would Grimmel know that if he’s trying to kill off the Night Furies forever? What’s the point in knowing their mating habits if there’s never going to be any Night Furies again? Did he just look at a Fury pair and go “yeup. They mate for life.”

Now another thing about Grimmel is that his hunting method is unreliable. One, he left his bait without any restraints. Imagine if the Light Fury woke up minutes before and just left? Boom! No more bait. What if Toothless wasn’t horny and was mad at the Light Fury for trying to kill Hiccup multiple times? Boom. He wouldn’t be trying to deal with her and the plan is ruined because the bait isn’t appealing to the target. What if Toothless didn’t smell her and never showed up?

Lots of plot conveniences. It happens in the entire movie. Dean also had to confirm that yes, Grimmel did kill all the Night Furies in an INTERVIEW because people didn’t believe that Grimmel genocide the Night Furies. And Dean only did this because he thinks Toothless is special because he’s the last Night Fury.

Now we could be here forever talking about how stupid grimmel is as a villain and how stupid it is to even entertain the thought that ONE man and his six, drugged dragons were able to commit genocide to a species of intelligent, elusive and fast dragons, but let’s just continue.

Another rule Dean disregarded is having good characterization. Or ANY characterization!

The Light Fury immediately comes to mind. Name one personality trait she has that we actually see in the movie. You can’t, can you? Because Dean actively wrote that out. There was a deleted scene of Light Fury and Toothless’ romantic flight which gave her much more personality, yet Dean wrote it out and gave us the boring one we have now.

Also, can we just talk about how she doesn’t have a name? Her name is literally “The Light Fury.” Which is the same as naming a Golden Retriever Golden Retriever.

I know Hiccup would’ve named her. Hell, anybody would’ve named her! But no, Dean decided that she didn’t need one because “how else would she be wild”?

Dean says this in an interview, “We intentionally try to keep her [The Light Fury] wild and elusive, to kind of represent something that is pure dragon, that hasn't been tainted by human beings by domestication.” Which just goes to show that Dean doesn’t know what domestication is.

(Dean also doesn’t know what a subspecies is because if he did, then he would know a Light Fury can’t possibly be a Night Fury subspecies because they have too many differences).

1. this means that Dean thinks all of the dragons that have benefited from human companionship (Toothless, Cloudjumper, Meatlug, Stormfly, etc) are tainted.

And 2, there is nothing “dragon” about the Light Fury. She has small feet (Hiccup’s head is literally bigger than her feet), small claws, a small mouth, her wings are weirdly shaped, she’s curved, she has no protective scales and her tailfin is in the shape of a heart, which would actually mess up her flight.

Many people have said this is because she’s semi-aquatic. But this is disproven by the fact that we’ve never seen her in the water and the art book.

Here’s two direct quotes: “We had to explore how the Light Fury would walk and make her feel like a female.” “We had to control all the shapes while keeping her both powerful and graceful so she didn’t fall too much into the reptilian category.”

The Light Fury is a plot device, a “agent of change” in Dean’s words.

Now while we’re on the topic of characterization, let’s talk about our main cast. We’ll start with Toothless.

Toothless is Hiccup’s best friend, who will do anything to protect him no matter the costs. He’s sassy, intelligent, curious, loyal, protective and playful.

Now take all of this, and throw it in the trash because this isn’t the toothless you’re going to see in THW. In THW Toothless’ playfulness is shot to the max, making him more like a slobbery puppy than the lethal panther he was in HTTYD1.

Toothless isn’t protective of Hiccup at all, his intelligence is below hell itself and we don’t see a lick of sass. Httyd3 Toothless is physically incapable of looking scary because his face has been deformed to to look blocky and smushed together. He lacks any aerodynamics and we can even see it in his flying. He looks like he’s struggling.

Toothless and Hiccup’s friendship is so watered down in this movie, just for the sake of romance. That’s not how it should be. Romance and friendship go hand in hand, one is not more valuable than the other.

Astrid is nothing but Hiccup’s emotional support, yet she also puts him down. “you gave him [Toothless] his freedom, what were you expecting?” This implies that the dragons are being held captive and Toothless doesn’t want to be with Hiccup.

Which he does, as we see in GOTNF. Toothless only left to get Hiccup’s helmet, then he broke the auto-tail. But why would Astrid even say that? Thats so insensitive 😭.

The twins are dumbed down (despite proving to actually being intelligent), Snotlout is flirting with a woman who’s 20 years older than him (and might be his aunt, depending if you see Hiccup and Snotlout as cousins) and Valka outright tells Hiccup that they can’t hide away from the world.

Which is true, they can’t. Because eventually they will be found. Now remember this, it’ll come back later.

Now, when writing a story it’s important to move the plot along in a way that doesn’t seemed forced. When I think of this, I think of Trollhunters: tales of Arcadia.

The protagonist (Jim) goes into the villain’s home in order to rescue his friend’s baby brother, yet he gets trapped there. His friends have to get him out of there, which allows the villain to be freed from the Darklands. This happening allows the story to move forward in a way that makes sense and isn’t forced.

Now back to HTTYD3. Let’s look at the scene where Toothless and the LF get captured. The Light Fury smells grimmel, she calls to toothless, runs towards Grimmel and gets shot.

Toothless runs over (ignoring Hiccup’s warnings) approaches Grimmel, takes forever loading a plasma blast while sloooowly walking towards Grimmel, allowing the man to shoot him and make him go night-night.

Hiccup runs over, also taking forever. And the next time we see grimmel he’s already tied up two dragons (BY HIMSELF) in these complicated straight jackets. The other dragons come around (finally) ready to attack, yet Grimmel threatens the light fury and tells Toothless to call of the dragons.

“But isn’t Toothless asleep?” I hear you ask, and to that I respond with “no, he’s not. He miraculously woke up in time to call the dragons off, despite the light fury still being knocked out cold.”

The dragons are called off and grimmel leaves on his quad-copter. The dragons follow them, even though Grimmel didn’t tell toothless to make them follow.

Do you see how forced this is? There’s many more forced plot points, but we’ll be here forever talking about it and this post is long enough already.

Next up on the broken rule list, Dean let the antagonist win. Now it’s okay for an antagonist to win, but never in the third act.

Grimmel’s ultimate goal was for dragons to disappear. Dean himself says “he does not want a world in which dragons roam free.” And what do we see at the end of HTTYD3?

The dragons disappearing into the Hidden World forever. Exactly what Grimmel wanted.

Finally, the last rule Dean broke is having a consistent plot. Now the plot of each movie is a bit different. Httyd1: Hiccup shows Vikings that while dangerous, dragons aren’t monsters. And it’s better to work together than working apart.

Httyd2: Dragons are being captured and enslaved, we need to save them and fight for our friends.

Httyd3: toothless needs to get a girlfriend. He HAS to, despite not ever showing to want one, but he’s horny right now so YES, he HAS to.

But the franchise has an overarching narrative about humans and dragons coming together. That no matter what, they will prevail because they’re working together.

Well in HTTYD3 yes, they prevail. But the dragons leave. Why, you may ask? Because no matter what they’ll always be bad humans so there’s no point fighting.

Hiccup sends the dragons to an underground glittery cave that doubles as a prison, and six years of friendship is thrown down the drain for a female Toothless met three days prior. Hiccup tells the audience that dragons will hide until humans learn how to get along (despite the many humans that already get along with them).

And that’s it. The end. No more.

“But wait!” I hear you ask, “Won’t the dragons eventually be found again?” And to that I say, “Oh, you remember!”

Because yes, the dragons will eventually be found out again. And because Hiccup gave up on fighting for change, these humans think dragons are dangerous monsters and will undoubtedly enslave/kill them.

We even see this with his own kids! Zephyr thought dragons were monsters and was ready to hurt them in order to “protect her family”. Humans of the future will no doubt act like this as well.

Humans and dragons will never learn to get along if they are never around each other. Change won’t just happen, you have to fight for it. Like the end of slavery, or the Women’s Rights Movement. Those things didn’t just happen, people had to fight for change and they had to keep fighting because if they gave up then nothing would change.

And when the dragons are inevitably found once again, it will be Hiccup’s fault when they’re either killed or enslaved.

[nartml]

No, because imagine waiting years to get the answer to the one, most burning question you have about a franchise.

Your curiosity, growing more and more potent with every new installment, every new development.

So many possibilities, so much potential, the sheer capacity for interesting twists and intricate plot points.

All to be crushed, wasted, with the lamest, truly most moronic answer.

Night Furies were one of the most mysterious parts of HTTYD.

Personally, I was brimming with excitement just thinking of all the endless ways the directors could expand upon this species, its history and its culture.

Naturally, we got nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Like, really? You expect me to believe that Grimmel (actually now? bffr, get this discount-Viggo outta here) cleared the entirety of, arguably, the most elusive, most careful, most intelligent, most powerful species of dragon.

(Which, even if rare, we're looking at at least several hundred dragons.)

Because they can't travel long distances (Who are you talking to right now? 🤨) and because they can't bear the cold (Girl, be so serious 😮‍💨).

Ladies, gents, my non-binary friends; I've heard it all. This is it. It was so ridiculous, so disappointing, so ridiculously disappointing I started laughing.

And maybe fans who've only watched the movies don't get the hysteria, but if I'm anything, it's a RoB, DoB, RTTE truther. And damn, those series are laying it on thick, especially RTTE.

You have the Dragon Eye. Places like Vanaheim. New and fascinating discoveries about dragons left and right.

THIS PART:

I was kicking my feet up and down when I saw this.

We could've done so much more with this, but nope. Of course not.

Fuck, I will die mad at this movie.

[officeobject]

I can listen.

‼️‼️this is not my art y'all all credits go to the artist pls here's the og post from them I'm just using it as a reference to make a point ‼️‼️

https://pin.it/4jOW5apc8

But OH MY LAWDD I CANT THUG THIS ONE OUT

Lowkey? Hate the light fury

Lowkey? Hate httyd homecoming

Lowkey? Hate httyd 3 and everything made after it

Need I say less?

Nah in all seriousness tho I hate how they just disregard hiccup and Toothless' bond in the 3rd movie and beyond.

TOOTHLESS TOOK ON AN ALPHA BEWILDERBEAST TO SAVE HICCUP?? THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY'VE BONDED. Their whole dynamic is that there are one together. But the second we see slim, smooth, glitter lady dragon we out ✌️

This is why I rlly didn't like the light fury. I rlly like the idea of a night fury subspecies. I really like the idea of those two species making a mixed species. They all had the right parts but they put them in the wrong places and it just... Doesn't work for me idk. Hiccup is this whiny guy who can't stand his best friend leaving, which is understandable but the way they portray him makes him look like Ralph from wreck it ralph breaks the Internet. Just an annoying character. And toothless is just horny for lady dragon. UR TELLING ME HE DID THE LIGHTNING THING WITH HICCUP ON HIM? HE DOESNT KNOW IF THAT WOULD KILL HICCUP?? He was just so desperate to save the babe. Like thank God hiccup didn't die?? In the second movie toothless risked his life for hiccup in a way no dragon had done before. In the third movie toothless RISKED Hiccup's life just to make some glitter babies

I just - idk it's weird to me I rlly don't like the hidden world

Yeah the animation is nice but even then they took the character designs and airbrushed them to look like they wash everyday. Need I remind to you THEY'RE VIKINGS?? THEYRE DIRTY. THEY'RE ROUGH. WHERE DID HICCUP'S FRECKLES GO?? WHY DOES ASTRIDS HAIR LOOK LIKE THE SILKY SMOOTH HAIR OF AN ANGEL? in the first movie they look rough and Viking like. Hiccup doesn't look like a Viking because he's a wimp and they portray that without beautifying him and making him pretty. In the 2nd movie they do this a little less but I can still tell that these people aren't models.

I could go on and on tbh but I'm not gonna contaminate my account with more httyd slander so hehe haha. I'll rant to people who wanna listen in Dms cause I CANNOT thug this one out 🙏