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clannfearrunt · 1 year ago
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Good morning to this thing
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queeleronwheels · 24 days ago
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The Link Between The First I love You, The First Lie, and Season 5 Byler
I need to talk about two songs on the official Stranger Things score that I think say an awful lot, and that I think will play a part in season 5. My credentials are that I really like music and overanalyzing, but if anybody with knowledge of music theory wants to jump in on this too, I'd be so interested to hear your thoughts!
The songs in question are The First I love You and The First Lie.
Let's begin with acknowledging just how diabolically intent on misdirection the ST writers actually are lol. Look at those titles: from those alone, the first song has a positive, romantic connotation, while the second has a negative connotation. We're about to see that this isn't actually the case.
The songs are obviously linked by the words "The First—" in the titles, but they also contain the same repeating motif, which is really obvious even to the layman's ear. We are meant to see a connection between these two songs—but more on that later. First, let's take a look at how they're used in the show:
The First Lie plays in season 2 episode 6, during Jonathan and Nancy's first kiss. The song is titled this way because it's used shortly after Jancy is "Murray'd", during which Jonathan and Nancy tell Murray they're just friends, and he replies with the line: "You've told me a lot of shockers today, but that—that is the first lie." Shortly after, Jonathan and Nancy both give in to their attraction to each other, confirming that Murray was right about the lie.
As we know, Jonathan and Nancy actually are—or at least have been—in love. Whether you want to argue that they're endgame or not is irrelevant. The point is, the show developed and portrayed them in such a way that we can't deny their attraction and love for each other. Thus, the song The First Lie is accompanying a scene where two people who love each other finally stop denying it and come together romantically for the first time.
The First I love You was used twice in season 3: first during Robin's coming out scene to Steve, and then during Mike and El's kiss in the finale, when El tells Mike she loves him too (a response to Mike's "I love her and I can't lose her again" blunder earlier in the season). This is very interesting, but I'll get back to it.
First, I want to discuss how they notably went out of their way to create a variation on The First Lie to use in season 3 instead of just reusing that same song. The songs are similar enough that they could have just used The First Lie to elicit the same feelings of triumph and romance in the viewer, and we know they're not against reusing songs throughout the show. However, when they do reuse songs, they tend to stick to the theme or meaning of the song title. A few examples:
The song In Pursuit is used multiple times throughout season 1, but only when characters are actually in pursuit of something (e.g., Hopper rallying a search party for Will, the search party investigating behind Benny's Burgers, Hawkins Lab investigating burnt radio equipment—this song plays in all of these scenes).
The song This Isn't You plays during scenes where Nancy is not acting or feeling like her usual self (e.g., Nancy approaching Jonathan for the first time to offer her sympathies Will being missing, Nancy ditching Barb at Steve's house, Nancy walking through the halls later on feeling like everyone's eyes on her, etc.).
The song Lay-Z-Boy is used first in season 1 when Mike is showing El around the house (including how to use the Lay-Z-Boy chair), but also in season 3 when Dustin is showing off his inventions from camp, and when Steve is giving Dustin advice about girls. The latter two scenes don't literally involve a Lay-Z-Boy, but the song is still used because the Lay-Z-Boy symbolizes teaching or showing the characters something new.
I'm trying to make two points here: 1) that songs are not reused willy-nilly in this show, it is always—or at least usually, because I am not so far gone that I have analyzed every single song and its usage in this show—purposeful and 2) that purpose is to make sure the song only plays in scenes that are literally, thematically, or symbolically connected.
If The First Lie is used as the backdrop for two characters finally coming together after being in denial about their feelings for each other, then I think they created The First I love You to backdrop scenes that would traditionally be declarations of love, but are not. Traditionally—as in, what we would expect if the narrative were following common tropes and patterns, and this was not a show about misfits, outcasts and non-conformity—Robin would have accepted and returned Steve’s affections during their scene together. Instead, she came out as a lesbian.
Enter that final scene between Mike and El in season 3. Traditionally, this should be the two halves of the central couple saying I love you to each other for the first time, and cementing it with a kiss. That is not what this is. Given that the song they went with was also used for a queer character's coming out scene, it's not a stretch to say that Mike in this scene—judging also by his visible discomfort and confusion during and after the kiss—realized that he does not like kissing girls, but also likely that he does not love El the way he's "meant" to, just like Robin doesn't love Steve the way she's "meant" to (I'm using the word "meant" through the lens of them both having some level of internalized homophobia, being in a heteronormative society in the 80s where homosexuality is condemned and heterosexual love is the standard and the expectation).
Again, keep in mind that The First I love You is a variation on The First Lie, meaning they are purposely linked, and we (or at least the analyzers in the audience) are meant to notice the fact that latter song was not used here. Similarly, using it in both Robin's scene and this scene was almost certainly a purposeful decision given what we know about how they use songs in this show, and I can't see any other reason why those two scenes should be connected besides them both being queer-coded. (You could argue it's because Robin's talking about Tammy, but we know that she likes Vickie now and this was just an old crush, not someone she's in love with).
Something that beautifully ties all of this together is the elephant in the room: the lowercase "love" in the song title. That was absolutely intentional. The song was named after El saying she loves Mike in this scene, but we know from the lowercase L that it isn't requited. If this sounds like a stretch, consider the fact that the next time we see Mike, in season 4, his entire arc is about his inability to say I love you to his girlfriend.
What does this have to do with Byler?
Besides the fact that Michael Wheeler is almost definitely not in love with El and that he likely realized he was gay during that season 3 finale scene, here's what I think this means for Byler:
I think The First Lie will be used again in season 5, for Mike and Will, when the painting cat is out of the bag.
We know that the writers love making parallels between Jancy and Byler, and given Byler will be the same age as Jancy was in season 1 when we reach season 5, I think they're going to ramp that up. We also know that the van scene in which Will gives Mike the painting he made for him and passes it off as El's commission is the first time that Will lies to Mike. It is the first lie. For Nancy and Jonathan, the first lie was the lead up to their first kiss. I think it's going to be the same with Mike and Will—perhaps not in the same scene, but it will be the springboard for them finally coming together like Jancy had.
Anyways, like I said, if any more musically-inclined people out there see any differences in the actual composition of these songs that might be significant, I'd love to hear it!
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megamhafan · 5 months ago
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(tw: mentions of csa, abduction, drug usage and domestic abuse) if you were to take away the monsters and fantastical elements in will Byers’s story, you’d straight up get a child struggling with the effects of csa along with it being allueded to that it has happened before. go read the theory made by @greenfiend for extended information https://www.tumblr.com/greenfiend/769426126766522368/lonnie-byers
season 1 part 1
we don’t see much of will in the first season but we do learn some things about him.
in s1 episode 1, we learn from joyce that the town has been insinuating/ suspecting that will might be gay.
we also get from Joyce and hopper’s conversation in the police department that will’s father lonnie, used to call him slurs. (keep a note of that)
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in s1 ep 2, we actually see lonnie byers for the first time and we get information about him without it being verbalized when jonathan goes to his house to look for will.
he’s definitely an a abusive father as seen when Jonathan goes into his house and checks the cupboards ( for will)
we see lonnie push Jonathan, and then remark “you’ve gotten stronger” which seals the deal.
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(if the bike isn’t evidence for the lonnie kidnapping theory, then. i don’t know what is)
eventually when jonathan is about to leave, he gives lonnie the missing poster of will. and makes a comment
“incase you forgot what he looks like”
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and lonnie’s weird girlfriend, cynthia walks out and says this weird line…
“he’s kinda cute, maybe i should trade you in for the younger model” (talking about jonathan)
she also could be talking about will, considering she did glance at the missing paper beforehand.
but i want to click those two stated lines together.
as we can see, lonnie’s girlfriend is very much a young woman in her 20s, while lonnie is a man in his late 40s approaching his 50s. so it is very weird for him to be involved with her.
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lonnie has always be interested in people who are barely adults/ still teenagers.
lonnie was 25 when he started dating a then 17 year old joyce.
in child predators, they don’t repeat the actions of going for younger and younger people because they actually are attracted. they do it because it’s taking advantage of someone younger, someone who might not know better.
if we’re going based off the theory that lonnie abused his sons that way, then the pattern of preying on younger and younger people clicks in with the “incase you forgot him” line.
lonnie abused jonathan first, then when will came along, he abused both. and when jonathan reached puberty, lonnie left him alone.
(note: people who prey after children, specifically boys sometimes stop when they reach puberty as they begin to have bodies that don’t resemble girls anymore)
he continued with will, and never stopped. only seeing will as a smaller and younger jonathan, and thus “forgetting what he looks like”
because his sons blended into one person in his head.
in s1 ep3, troy and james walk up to the boys and start joking about will being dead. troy even says that “he was probably killed by some other queer”
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he also adds a little bit of context to where he heard that. “at least that’s what my dad says”
troy says that his father told him that. and if you look at the home lives of troy and will, they’re very similar.
abusive dad
worried mom
not too well off financially
now we know that the duffers like to drop hints and clues about characters in the background and also about the lives of certain characters so that i can’t take away from the main story.
so what if troy is being used as a mouth peice essentially to explain why the town came to the conclusion that will is gay.
if you move around the things he says, you get…
“he was probably killed by a queer”
“at least that’s what dad says”
lonnie was the one who started the rumor in town, he’s the one who eventually started saying a queer person killed will.
s1 ep4 & ep5 will’s “body” is found in the quarry and hopper has to tell joyce that they found him.
this is also when lonnie shows up, he plans to sleep on the couch for a few days and attend the funeral.
he does something that always confuses me.
when he is arguing with jonathan in his room, he tells him to take his evil dead poster down because it’s inappropriate.
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i assume he means that because the house is grieving, they shouldn’t have anything up on the walls.
but i think it’s more than that.
as stated by other theorists, lonnie’s name means oak tree, and the woman in the poster is being grabbed by a oak tree.
i’ve always seen that it was supposed to represent what lonnie did to Jonathan.
but with all this moment from episode 2 in particular…
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it has me thinking that lonnie wants it down because it brings to light what he did to his son, how he took him and what he’s been doing to him for years. specifically it’s Jonathan making it visible what his father did to will.
and now that will is “gone”, lonnie wants it hidden forever. buried with his child.
which makes the moment where Joyce finds the check for the money that lonnie wants to take out because of will’s “death”, even more compelling.
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it’s joyce not just confronting what her ex husband is doing via taking money out to pay his debts, essentially using their dead son for money.
it’s her confronting that lonnie has been using his son for things that you don’t use a child for.
she kicks him out, making sure that he doesn’t come back to harm her or her children again.
while all of this is going on, mike and the rest of the boys are at school attending will’s memorial service, when they hear troy and James talking about will.
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after this, mike confronts them angrily, because it’s a messed up thing to do.
troy then says these lines
“what’s there to be sad about anyways?”
“he’s flying around with all the other little faries, all happy and gay”
this moment would then cause mike to snap and push troy.
also to note that mike was absolutley ready to fight troy, if it meant protecting the image of his friend.
when troy gets up ready to go and attack mike, he looks like he's going to punch him, but is stopped when el secretly squeezes his bladder with her mind, causing him to pee himself.
(note: troy’s face is of uncomfortableness, rather than embarrassment)
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when we get to part 2, we’re going to talk about this first, along with a intermission
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fresne999 · 4 days ago
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Murderbot tv Episodes 7, 8, 9
And so I rejoice, for I have seen Murderbot episodes 7 (repeat), 8 and 9. Now all that lies before me is episode 10 (and hopefully a season 2).
I have so many thoughts. 
Most of which I verbally cracked like so much & many eggs immediately after with my watching cohort. Only fitting because that's what one needs to break to make a protein rich meal. But then again, that's not how the saying goes.
And yet, and yet, if a person understands what is meant, then maybe it is…
Throuple No More
Since I also rewatched episode 5 that morning, I approached the dissolution of the throuple through the lens of seeing Arada flirting with LeBeeBee on the shuttle ride back from DeltFall, before LeBeeBee started her whole penile ramble and Arada noped out. Saw the glances by Pin-Lee and Ratthi. The who and the what. 
Arada's little smile when Ratthis said he was falling in love with one of them. Pin-Lee's resigned stoicism. Arada goes first per usual, except neither she nor Pin-Lee had been reading the signals. At all. 
Humans (and constructs it would seem) can be like that.
I've seen a lot of conversations about the throuple needing to be there or not, which philosophically I say mileage may vary.
But the more I think the show, particularly given the episode's length, the more I feel that every aspect of the show is like a word in a John Steinbeck short story. It has to carry a lot of weight from a lot of different directions. 
They aren't there as comedic backdrop. Well, partly, because there's a lot of serious ideas goin on, but we learn about who Pin-Lee and Arada are in their interactions with Ratthi. We learn who Ratthi is as he tries very hard, too hard, to be a part of their dynamic, which he isn't. 
We learn things about what Preservation Alliance society is like both in the creation of the throuple and the dissolution of it. There is no shame in either. 
I do love this vision of a culture where none of these emotional entanglements are a death knell to relationship. People try things on. See what fits. What doesn't. Flow friendships into lovers and back again. The sweet and the bitter, and no harm done. Because they can apologize for discomfort and move on. They can talk about it. 
Because as Elizabeth Bennet once advised Mr. Darcy when speaking about what would make conversation smoother and piano playing better, they practice. 
Shrodinger's Ratthi 
I think about this alot as I read various, "tv Ratthi is not my Ratthi" meta. Because no. He isn't.  that Ratthi is singular, and the Murderbot Diaries are quite sparse on the ground in terms of characterization of non bot characters. 
I mean, book Ratthi definitely attempted to leave the hopper to retrieve some equipment right after there was a fairly violent attack on PresAux with some fairly serious injuries (and a SecUnit missing bits). Book Ratthi tried to talk to MB about its personhood so much that it let Mensah know on the feed. 
It's not that tv Ratthi is or is not book Ratthi. He is an interpretation of what the small details the books give us could be.
A person who interrupts a hostage negotiation to advocate for MB's personhood is a person who would have a breakup conversation in the middle of the whole GreyChris situation.
It wasn't the best time to have that conversation, and yet, if not then, when? 
Ratthi simultaneously tries too hard and is willing to lay his cards on the table. Not lie to emotion. Talk about this. Not even really pushing for any particular conclusion. Wanting to be open about his emotions and open conversations.
Supporting the idea of MB, it's coolness, the what if it, but hesitating when the moment came to push the button and trust MB's plan. 
The Stories We tell Ourselves
To expand on this, whether PresAux caught up in self righteousness or GreyChris in self absorbed greed, folks see what they expect to see. 
Unless -- pattern matching monkeys -- the MB quotes Sanctuary Moon one too many times. 
Then there's the objective reality of the viewers. 
Well, okay, no, I've been in fandom for a very long time, and have worked in the field of communication for almost as long. So I do know that we all see slightly different shows, read the same and yet different books. Our observations of a narrative are created with whatever we brought in our baggage from our journey so far. Whatever tools and dirty socks, and missing that umbrella (quote) we forgot along the way.  
Not to be Deconstructionist, which is somewhat like Bhardawaj acting like a medical doctor when her doctorate is in geochemistry, but it has been a philosophy that I learned about in college in thirty years ago and have made some bastardized version of it as I've gone through life as a professional documenter of ideas. 
We make associations with words and actions that are based on our life experience.
Hmmm…let me put it this way. Every time I see someone online refer to PrexAux as communists, I think to myself, "Communism is a political party, not a philosophy," before I catch myself. I am a child of the 70s and the word Communism or even communism means something different to me as a word than it might to the person writing the sentence, who possibly didn't grow up during the Cold War. It means something different to me as someone who has canvassed/phonebanked in very red areas during elections than to someone whose political experience is the last twenty years and mostly online. 
Words or structures don't have solid meaning with one interpretation. 
Perceived reality can be as shifting as Arada having always been the one who is attractive, attracts, goes first, coming to a reality check. She hasn't perceived that Ratthi is more interested in Pin-Lee because she didn't expect it. Any more than Pin-Lee expected to be the desired one. 
The tales the PresAux team told themselves about how successfully they defended MB and fought the GreyChris SecUnit juxtaposed with MBs rather incredulous replay of events.
MB's perception that it's small talk skills have improved, which, no sweetie, honey, no. It hasn't. Well, okay, it had its first conversation a day or so ago, so it has. So it has improved in that it has gone from the silence of the enslaved. 
And yet, and yet, it's not even really MB's small talk. 
It's parroting a medley of lines from Sanctuary Moon, which welp, GreyChris gets that famous serial, too. 
It's now just begun to grasp the reality that it can be the hero of its own narrative, without getting that means falling face first in gravel. 
Also, its quoting, not really writing its own narrative. Not yet. Not really. 
Beyond the Pale
To be beyond the pale is to be beyond the boundaries of acceptable behavior. This slightly antiquated phrase refers to the boundary fence of English controlled territory in Ireland during the period after the Black Death when Norman English control of Ireland contracted to just around Dublin. 
The pale is the perimeter, which MB keeps going to. Walking away towards to gain space. To genuinely see if there's a problem. To contemplate simply stopping, shutting down, and being consumed by the green of which it cannot truly be a part. 
But the historical signifier of the pale, the fence, the perimeter, is that it is also the fence of the colonizer seeking to take. To define what behavior is acceptable (see all those CorpRim folks in the restaurant looking at the rowdy Sweet-Bitter PresAux) and what is not. The pale defines control. 
The pale is the shadow of GreyChris and the Company of generic and nullified name, and the leash upon which MB -- no pet -- is yet on. 
MB has not yet sought to get beyond the boundary. To truly write its own story. 
All the damned logos
Even having read the books and being told the logos are everywhere, I was not prepared for the sheer amount of logos. Stamped on the chairs, the armor, the fabric. 
Go on survey, and the Company "personalizes" the material. But it's fast fashion. Because the Corporate Rim doesn't value the creation of items. All brought to you by the Company logo.
PresAux personalizes by embroidering and painting their clothing to create uniqueness. No personalization to be replicated even if done by the same person. Fabric crafts being unique like that. 
But that's not the only modification out there. 
GreyChris leader with her lip jewelry and her scar that is so damned evocative of the GreyChris logo.
Not an exact replica. Evocative.
As was the subject of much discussion and freeze framing after we watched episode 9, it's not a duplicate. And yet, and yet, humans are pattern matching monkeys. SecUnits too, if, presumably, their module isn't too crappy to do so. 
Watsonianly, was that scar a choice? A declaration of loyalty and badassery? Though, presumably someone in the GreyChris team were actually scientists who could do something with the alien remnants 
Dolylistically, did the show designers want me to look at this woman from a Corporate Rim where printing flesh and healing wounds is as simple as letting the MedUnit do its thing, and think about what that scar says about Corporate Rim society and her.
Por que no los dos?
So many elements of the show are so load bearing that it seems as if Tumblr's blue curtains mean something. 
Well they do. 
The story has left the hands of the creators and entered into fannish space where I (we) are/am free to deconstruct and construct meaning in what we're seeing.
So it is the logo if I say it is. It is not the logo is you say it is not. 
Why not both.
It's like saying Amour and Mort in French (the t is silent) and acknowledging they sound the same, but are not. 
Deconstructing the House While Standing In It
This isn't to Nihilistically say stories don't a meaning that the story teller is trying to tell. 
Or as MB, might say, "Whatever."
But whether or not Sanctuary Moon is premium quality or crappy is a matter of perception. The importance of Sanctuary Moon is what it means to MB. 
The importance of all those logos is how the Corporate Rim attempts to assume control on everything. Like cats or dogs spraying marks, but with pre-fab molding.
MB cannot lose all the logos, because (as I know having read the books) they are on its skeletal structure. 
But some step in the process of writing its own narrative will be to be to step beyond the pale. To stop using scripts.
Oh, how that word reminds me of reading "I'm Ok, You're Ok" in high school. Words can have many resonances. 
Infected with Love and Empathy
The NavUnit kills her lover. She kills everyone. Well, I for one choose to think this is a time loop episode, and Flight Captain Hossein will once more declare that boldness is all, but that's best saved for yuletide or a Sanctuary Moon Big Bang. 
Infected by love and love causes it to kill.
MB chooses to write the story of what's going on as it's been infected by empathy. Much as Gurathin learned what it was when people of good conscience could be to each other.
MB is a whole confused being and therefore shies away words like love. That word has an unpleasant resonance to it. 
Empathy. It feels empathy. It can care. While declaring loudly that it does not.  
Privacy matters
I'm inclined to think until moments before Gurathin says MB's private name, MB had no real sense of private.
Why would it? It's expected to watch (spy on) its clients. Listen to them in their most intimate moments -- as interesting to it as copulating worms -- and report. Have no privacy in its own mind, but that the Company can strip thought away.
To reiterate on something I've said before, privacy and security are different things. Security protects against risks. Mitigates vulnerability. Privacy is about what rights an entity does (or does not) have regarding their personally identifiable information. Privacy risks are around the harm that may come to an individual if the confidentiality of that private personal information is lost.
I'm very glad that the writers chose to parse the revelation of name and the murders from the scene where it occurs in the book where all the bombs fall at once. Hacked governor module. Dead miners. Murderbot. Hacked module - time to flee. 
This allowed this moment to have its own gravity. Have its own impact on MB. That truth it doesn't want to face. Admit. Believe. 
When memory can be implanted, rewritten, erased, how then to handle a memory that is the opposite of Boldness is All and that is the basis of itself.
And yet underlying it all, is the fear. That it is one step away from being a murderbot. It's seen all the shows. NavUnit went rogue and had its memory erased. So did MB. 
Or, well, perception is a funny thing. Season two, please. I want the emotional evisceration of it. 
Empathy
A rebellious bot, a free bot, is a murderous bot. A compliant bot obeys orders and stays in line. Or at least, so the colonizer, the enslaver, the Corporation Rim media would have it say. 
MB keeps walking away from PresAux. Further and further. Closer to that perimter, wherever it is.
It's not that I think Ratthi thinks MB is his pet, or even that Mensah thinks MB is her pet, but that Mensah is achingly aware that MB is owned. That it knows (don't you think it knows that) it is owned. That the little bit of freedom it has achieved is only in its own head.
Wanting to go after MB, and yet also, all she has the room for -- knowing that they won't survive without MB -- is grant it this grace of the perimeter, while turning to the next task. Who is GreyChris.
Mensah is trying so hard, three steps ahead of the others, to see with MB's eyes. She trusts. She lets go. She welcomes back. She goes to save and shakes her head at the quotations.
However, as good as she is, Mensah can't know what it is to be MB.
We all see through our eyes (even if patched into their very bodies), walk in our own shoes, itch in our own skin. 
The Who or the What
I'm going to link to a video with Derrida, the founder of the philosophy of Deconstructionism, talking about love because I think it relevant here. 
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In it, he talks about how there is a tension in talking about love whether we mean loving the totality of a person (who) or characteristics of a person (what).
When it's characteristics (Ratthi finding various things MB says/does cool), then it's possible to find other characteristics less pleasant. To loudly trust MB, but also hesitate at pushing the button. 
It's part of the very interesting difference between book MB never wanting to murder anyone in front of Arada, and tv MB very much has. This means that when Bhardawaj and Arada join hands over Ratthi's to push the button, to let GreyChris in, let MB's plan unfold, they are trusting the who, not the what. 
That when Gurathin sees MB lying there in the gravel, he starts to break out of his what mindscape and into the who. Which is good, because the way he talked about Mensah in Sweet-Bitter scene seemed very much based on an ideal based out of the Art of Courtly Love and not based on who Mensah is in totality. Panic attacks and snapping her own fears about herself to Ratthi and going to save MB and all. 
Can't wait until episode 10 to see what she (and litigious Pin-Lee) so next. 
I mean I know. I've read the books.
But that's Shrodinger's knowing. I look forward to getting to open the box.
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mashkdemss · 5 months ago
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Parallels between Byler and the canon couple from "Anne with an E"
Warning, there are a lot of spoilers here! And I apologize in advance if you find mistakes in the text, I'm still learning English O_o
Hi everyone!! Last month, I watched the series "Anne with an E" for the second time, and during my second viewing I decided to approach the romantic line of the main characters from a different angle. After many analyses of Byler, I learned to analyze relationships in cinema, and this case really surprised me on the good side! Let's talk with you about the parallels between Mike and Will with Ann and Gilbert, which help to make sure that Byler will soon become a canon :)
"Anne with an E" is a Canadian TV series, the first season of which was released in 2017 (8 months before the release of season 2 of Stranger Things). The main role in it was played by actress Amibeth McNulty, who also played the role of Vickie in season 4 of Stranger Things. And this is not the only important connection of this series with ST! At the end of the first season, Hopper was reading a book to Sara in the hospital, and that book was "Anne of Green Gables" (the Netflix series was based on this book)
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Then in episode 3 of season 2, he reads the same book for Eleven.
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The main romantic line in "Anne ..." develops between Anne and Gilbert over the course of 3 years (13-16) and it is narrated through such tropes as: from friends to lovers, slowburn, a love triangle, and a trope in which both characters think that their feelings for each other are unrequited, although in fact this is not the case. All of these relationship constructions are also applicable in the case of the Byler.
Direct parallels can be drawn between the characters:
Will = Anne
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— Creative and sensitive teenagers from medium-income families who were bullied by their peers. They both talk a lot next to people they feel comfortable with, both have a self-built little castle in the forest where they retire during a difficult period and can feel safe without fear that someone will judge them (and later these castles were destroyed at both). There is a scene where Anne runs into her wooden house and cries there, very similar to Will's scene after a fight in the rain.
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Ann and Will both told their mothers (in Anne's case, the foster mother) that they are "not going to fall in love" although the line of their romantic attachment to Gilbert and Mike is already developing according to the idea of the plot. Another interesting correspondence between these two characters is that they both helped people dear to them with their romantic relationships, while they themselves did not want it. Anne read the letters that her foster father's old friend had sent him, and without telling him about it, she decided to send her answers on his behalf because she thought they were deeply in love, and her father "just didn't know what to say". As a result, her father found out about it and talked to her about how he hadn't read his friend's letters because he didn't want a relationship with her, he just wasn't in love with her anymore and wasn't ready to change his life. Does it remind you of anything? Will also used Anne's "tactics", revealing his feelings to Mike on behalf of El, only he used a painting and not letters.
And one more take.... Anne's so-called mentor was aunt Josephine. They were in a good relationship and she gave her advice about her life and love. Josephine was also a lesbian. I want to say that this is also a possible parallel, because in the fifth season we are definitely waiting for the interaction of Will and Robin.
Mike = Gilbert
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— curly black-haired guy from a more affluent family, who often acts as a leader and has some authority as a smart student. He liked Anne as soon as she joined their school and he tried to win her attention, but Anne knew that her friend liked him, so she carefully avoided Gilbert (although she also liked him). This gives us another coincidence: Anne, like Will, believes that she does not deserve love and avoids her feelings in order for other people to be happy. The main similarity between Mike and Gilbert is that they both stand at the center of a "love triangle."
Due to misunderstandings that have occurred between him and Ann, Gilbert begins to think that his love for her is not mutual and decides to marry Winifred (represents El in our case). Winifred is a girl from a rich family whom he met quite recently, and if Gilbert marries her, then her father will give him the opportunity to study at a prestigious medical college, which he has long dreamed of. Everyone around him approved of the idea of him and Winnie getting married, everyone expected it from Gilbert. Their wedding, unlike a relationship with a village red-haired orphan girl, could have brought him social approval, just as Mike and Eleven's relationship could have brought Mike social approval and entrenched his image of a "normal heterosexual".
But Gilbert doesn't love Winifred the way she loves him. Therefore, shortly before their wedding, he confesses to her that in fact his heart will always belong to Anne and that for this he is ready to give up his dream. And although their breakup was sad for Winnie, Gilbert explained the reasons to her as tactfully as possible, saying that she deserved someone much better than him. All of this also goes well with Willelmike.
To declare his love to Anne again, Gilbert writes her a letter and leaves it in her room while no one is at home. He writes that he and Winnie are not getting married, that he has always loved only Anne, and at the end he signs "Love, Gilbert." LOVE, GILBERT. Where have we heard this before? That's right, Mike's letters... If anything, I absolutely believe in the Lettergate theory, and that's also one of the reasons I'm confident in it.
Then there is confusion, Ann thinks Gilbert is mocking her feelings, and tears up the letter, and Gilbert goes to a less prestigious medical college. Now they are both sure that their feelings are not mutual, and even resigned to their failure, BUT! Anne meets Winnie, who tells her that she and Gilbert broke up and that he confessed his love for Anne to her.
Meanwhile, Gilbert meets Anne's best friend on the train, who loudly told Gilbert everything she thinks about him and "opened his eyes." She also mentions a love letter that Anne left some time ago, in the same way Gilbert left in her room later. Anne's letter was also unread, and the phrase "What letter, Diana, what letter?" appears. Don't you think it's very similar to a possible scene from s5 of ST with "What painting?"
In general, they ended up running to each other and touchingly reunited, after which there was a sensual kiss that the audience had been waiting for for so long. Unfortunately, the series ended there, but according to the canons of the book, they lived happily ever after, married and had many children, as befits such old love stories.
The main plot is not about Anne's love story, but about her growing up, other problems and events in their village (as in the case of Stranger things), so this line between the characters unfolds slowly and throughout the series, and Anne with Gilbert open up about their feelings and kiss only in the last minutes of the last episode.
It seems to me that there are too many coincidences to be coincidences. All of this inevitably leads to Byler endgame, if you look at everything from a cinematic point of view. Absolutely the same techniques were used: framing, phrases, lighting, musical accompaniment. When watching "Anne..." viewers have never denied the fact that there are feelings between Anne and Gilbert, although they were not revealed directly until last season. And all because Anne and Gilbert are a heterosexual couple, and such couples unfortunately turn out to be more pleasant and understandable to the average viewer. But they turned out to be a really good ship, and I'm even glad that the Duffer brothers were inspired by this setting.
So if the Shirbert is canon, then Byler will soon become canon!
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Hangman's Joke: An Eddie Munson x Reader Halloween Special (The Crow AU) Part One
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A/N: It's finally here, guys! I hope you all enjoy, I worked very hard on this one! And I have to thank @keikoraven for being the best beta reader in the world! I still have two parts to write, but I am ecstatic to get spooky season going!
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Content Warning 18+ Only, Minors DNI: swearing, fem!reader, brief mentions of sex, mentions of sexual abuse/ritual abuse/child abuse, violence, blood, character death, murder, smoking, alcohol use, use of homophobic language, grief, angst, mentions of dead animals, mentions of threats, subjects concerning satanic panic
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Part One
“People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes, the crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right.”
October 30th, 1991
Hopper steps out into the crisp fall night, the air biting its way under the collar of his windbreaker. He shoves the door to his vehicle closed, flicking the ash of his cigarette with his other hand. “How bad is it?” He asks as Callahan and Powell approach him. There’s four other police vehicles parked out front of the Crystal Ridge apartment complex, the berries and cherries flashing across every surface in a choppy swirl of light and dark. Unmasked disgust reads on every officer’s face, though Hopper isn’t sure if it’s regarding the scene, or who the victims are inside. 
“Well, it’s not good. And it’s certainly not going to ease any of the tension in town.” Powell replies with a sigh, shaking his head. 
“No shit.” Hopper says flatly, tossing his half-smoked cig away. He walks toward the building, going up the front steps and down the hall until he finds the unit cordoned off with police tape. A few more officers are inside, snapping photos of the carnage, as well as snickering amongst themselves about ‘amusing’ items they find in the residence. All nudging elbows and scrutinizing fingers pointed at books and figurines on nearby shelves or tables, nevermind the bodies lying in the middle of the living room floor. “Something funny here, boys? Last I checked, murder isn't a goddamn joke.” Hopper barks, the mouths of his lower officers clapping shut all at the same time, their eyes widening at being caught in such an immature display. They resume their work in silence, snapping photographs of blood splatters and discarded weapons. 
Hopper takes in the scene, focusing his attention on the victims first, as one should in these situations. Eddie and Y/N Munson, aged twenty-five and twenty-three, respectively. Married for two years, hopelessly in love since Hopper first caught them necking in Roane County Cemetery back in the fall of ‘82. Eddie, known to the Chief as the town’s resident metalhead and small-time drug dealer. Despite his intimidating exterior, Hopper knew he was a good kid who just happened to get into a bit of trouble every now and again. It made him rather proud to see Munson turn it around once he graduated in ‘86, becoming a mentor for troubled Hawkins youth with his Hellfire D&D Club. 
And then there was Y/N, the Bonnie to Eddie’s Clyde. Dressed from head to toe in black leather seemingly since birth, paired with the sweetest, most welcoming smile. Hopper recalls the times she’d cover for Eddie whenever he got busted, and how easily he let them both go. A small twinge of reminiscence tugs the corner of his lip up, but only for a moment. Y/N became a librarian, encouraging the youngsters of the town to embrace literature and expand their developing minds. The kids absolutely adored her, like a spooky big sister who always had their back. There’s sure to be thousands of tiny tears when the news breaks tomorrow.
To see what’s now become of possibly the kindest people in Hawkins he’s ever known, it truly makes Hopper’s heart ache. He gazes upon their bodies, an unwelcome sting coming to his eyes. His pupils dart from place to place, unable to settle on any singular gruesome detail for too long. Their clothes are torn to shreds. Their limbs are splayed about in an eerily doll-like fashion, though their hands meet in the middle, as if to hold one another one last time. Thick, angry slashes and stabs puncture their skin. Clotting blood soaks the remnants of fabric and pools into the carpet below. Their eyes haven’t clouded over just yet, looking as if they’ll spring to life with a hearty laugh any moment now. Surely, they’ll sit up and shout ‘GOTCHA!’, revealing that this was all some twisted Halloween prank. Hopper hopes for it, even prays for it a moment. But the relief he wants never comes. There’s no bright blinking eyes, or smiling mouths, or their matching infectious laughter. It’s all been snuffed out of them completely. 
A sudden choked gasp breaks the monotonous click and whirr of crime scene cameras, and a bloodied arm snatches at Hopper’s ankle. “Holy shit!” Jim yelps, wondering if his wish actually came true. His eyes snap to where the sound came from, finding Eddie gasping for air on the floor as a small trickle of blood flows from his mouth.
“H-Hop?” Eddie wheezes, his features frightened and confused. His thick curls stick to his cheeks in nests of coagulated crimson. Numerous cuts are visible on his chin, forehead, and just below his eyes. 
“I’m here, kid. It’s gonna be okay.” Hopper replies, kneeling beside the young man. Eddie’s in real bad shape, so this promise is probably a lie. “We got a live one, boys! Get a medic in here!” Jim yells, snapping the other officers, who have been watching on in horror, into action. “We’re gonna get you outta here, kid.” Hopper takes hold of Eddie’s shaking hand, doing his best to comfort him.
“Where’s Y/N?” Eddie gargles out, trying to turn his head. Just as Hopper is about to lie to the young man again, the EMTs come in with a stretcher to wheel him out of here. 
“She’ll be right behind you, Eddie. You’re both gonna be fine.” Jim reassures him, squeezing his hand, noticing the rapidly weakening grip of it. Not much longer now, he thinks. At least his pain will be over soon. The medics roll Eddie away, disappearing down the hall of the complex to reach the ambulance.
“You lied to him, didn’t you?” A redheaded girl says in the doorway, tears streaming down her cheeks. Max Mayfield, another familiar face. 
“You shouldn’t be here.” Hopper replies, stepping to the right to shield her young eyes from Y/N’s corpse. He remembers seeing Max with the Munsons quite often, having formed a special relationship with them. Her own home life hasn’t exactly been peachy since she moved to Hawkins with her parents and stepbrother. Said inherited sibling has always been bad news, causing Hopper nothing but trouble for the last few years. 
“I know. I saw the cars outside, and I know what people in town have said about the Munsons. But they aren’t like that…devil worshippers, or whatever.” Max states, rolling her eyes at the baseless accusation she’s heard thrown their way hundreds of times. 
“I know that, kid.” Hopper sighs, stepping closer to her.
“She’s dead, right?” Max asks, looking down at her feet. Tears drip onto the tips of her converse, though she keeps the sobs inside. 
“Yeah. I’m sorry.” Jim answers, no need for polite truth-twisting now. 
“Can I…say goodbye?” Max lifts her head up again, brushing a stray hair that’s escaped her ponytail behind her ear. 
“I don’t think that’s a good idea.” Hopper shakes his head, stepping closer to lead the girl away from the bloody mess. “C’mon, I’ll give you a ride home.” He offers.
“Okay. Thanks.” She nods, not bothering to sneak a morbid glance behind her as they walk down the hallway. They make their way outside, bypassing the other officers.
“Where you off to, Chief?” Callahan pipes up.
“I’ll be back, just dropping Ms. Mayfield at home first.” Jim answers without turning back, opening the passenger door to let the child hop inside. He closes it after her, going over to his side. “Maybe secure the perimeter properly before I get back, hm?” He suggests gruffly to his subordinate. 
“You got it, sir.” Callahan chuckles dryly, rubbing his neck in embarrassment. “Hey.” He lightly smacks Powell on the chest as Hopper pulls out of the lot of the complex. “Secure the perimeter.” He orders unseriously, earning a scoff from his fellow officer.
“Give me orders again, and you can secure my foot in your ass.” Powell laughs, going about his business.
The drive to the Mayfield-Hargrove household is a quiet one, almost painfully so. Max is slumped in her seat, staring out the window at all the places her surrogate parents will no longer be able to visit or ride past on their motorcycle. The record store where they bought every piece of their extensive metal collection, of which they let Max borrow from whenever she liked. The ice cream shop they’d take her to after a nasty day at school or big fight at home. The cemetery where Y/N taught her how to do grave rubbings. She supposes they’ll both be buried there within a few days. At least I’ll be able to visit them again, she thinks, cursing herself for such a selfish thought. More tears pour from her eyes, hot and stinging. She sniffles, trying to hide the evidence on the sleeve of her hoodie.
“Here.” Hopper reaches over, popping open the glove compartment to reveal a collection of napkins from various fast food joints. 
“Thanks.” Max says softly, reaches for a few of the napkins, closing the compartment afterwards. She wipes her eyes, blowing her nose. “I’m sorry for sneaking in. I just had to be sure.” 
“Sure of what?” Jim asks, finding her phrasing rather odd. Like she knows something.
“Well, you know how this town’s treated them. The comments they got, the threats.” Max fiddles with her crumpled tissue.
“Sure do.” Hopper agrees.
“I’ve heard Billy talking about them a lot. The same satanic crap everyone else does, at first.” She pauses, further drawing Hopper’s attention. He glances at her, finding the napkin becoming shredded to pieces in her hands now. “But lately, I’d been hearing him talk with his friends about…’taking care’ of them. You know what I mean?” She looks at him now, appearing far more afraid than she did when Eddie was being carted away in his near-dead state. 
“I do.” He nods, and her shoulders relax a little, as if she’s relieved to have someone believe her. It certainly isn’t outside of the realm of possibility that Billy had something to do with this, though Hopper highly doubts the little fucker acted alone. He almost never does when it comes to starting trouble. His shithead entourage is usually right on his heels at every wrong turn. Steve Harrington, Tommy Hagan, and Jason Carver. The four of them have spent their entire collective time in Hawkins wreaking all sorts of havoc. Drunken parties, even drunker fights, vandalizing police vehicles, getting frisky with nearly every young lady in town in various public venues. You name it, and those four have been busted doing it. Unfortunately, their status in town almost guarantees they never see as much as a few scant hours of community service. Hopper worries that brutal murder may soon be added to that list.
“Do you think he…did it?” Max asks, a mix of disbelief and realized terror in her voice.
“I don’t know, kid.” He replies as he pulls up to her house. “But, it’s my job to find out. Don’t you worry, I’m gonna catch whoever did this.” He says with resolve, hoping to bring the girl some comfort. 
“I hope so. Doesn’t seem like anybody else wants to.” She says sadly, recalling how uncaring the other cops looked when she snuck past them in her quest to confirm the worst.
“Well, they don’t have much choice, since I’m in charge.” He laughs, earning a small giggle from Max as well. “Now, get inside. I’m sure your mom’s worried sick.” 
“Probably.” She rolls her eyes. “Thanks for the ride, Hop. And for helping the Munsons.” She smiles at him, and he returns it. Max hops out of the car, and Hopper waits for her to make it inside before pulling away. He catches a small glimpse of Billy in the window, who’s wearing a far more smug smirk than usual. 
“I’ve got my work cut out for me.” He sighs, pulling out a fresh smoke as he drives back to the crime scene. 
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“Where the hell were you?” Billy asks as Max comes into the house, shedding her damp jacket and setting her skateboard by the door.
“Nowhere.” She answers softly, hoping to avoid an altercation.
“Bullshit. Why the fuck was the pig Chief dropping you off?” He snarls, more than ready to take out the reaming he received from his father earlier tonight on Max.
“I was just…out. It started to rain, so Hop offered me a ride.” She rolls her eyes and shrugs, beginning to walk away towards her room.
“You went to see if those freaks were dead, didn’t you?” He asks cruelly, following her.
“They weren’t freaks! They were my friends!” Max snaps, turning to face her brother in the doorway. 
“You know what they did, Max! They hurt that kid Pete Howell, made him do all sorts of fucked up satanic shit! Everyone in town knows about it!” Billy yells, stalking over to get in her face.
“That’s a lie and you know it! The Munsons would never do that! To anyone!” She shrieks back, taking a step forward. Billy looms over her, fury in his eyes.
“We all saw the bruises, Maxine! And other kids came forward, too! Eddie made all those Hellfire kids drink his blood and touch each other for his rituals! And don’t even get me started on that bitch, Y/N!” He continues to spew lies in a fervent rant, spit flying from his lips. “She gave kids books about witchcraft, encouraging them to put evil spells on each other and sacrifice their pets! I can’t even imagine what messed up shit those two got up to when they were together! Hell, they were probably just waiting for the right kid to come along so they could kill ‘em! It could’ve even been you!”
“Shut up!” Max screams, slapping Billy across the face with all her might to make him stop. He grunts in surprise at the pain, and a throbbing sting spreads through Max’s hand. Before Billy has time to react to what’s just happened, Max runs into her room and slams the door, locking it tight.
“Open this fucking door, Max! You know I’m right about them! You just don’t wanna see it! But you will! Once the cops go through all their shit, you’ll see how evil they really were!” Billy keeps it up, pounding his fist into the door. Max climbs onto her bed, pulling the covers over her head as fresh tears spring free. “You’ll see! And I’ll be right there to say ‘I told you so’! You’ll see them for what they were, just like everybody else has! Fucking freaks who needed to be put down! Savage animals who worshiped Satan! Do you hear me, Max? Do you?! You’ll fucking see!”
“Shut up. Shut up. It’s not true. It’s not. Shut up. It’s not true…” Max murmurs to herself over and over, covering her ears to block out the noise. She refuses to listen, she can’t let Billy’s words get to her. She can’t let the memories of Eddie and Y/N be soiled. Not by him, not by anyone. 
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Jim spends the rest of the evening overseeing the processing of the scene, ensuring every piece of evidence is bagged and labeled, leaving no stone unturned in the entire apartment. He can’t leave anything to chance if he’s going to catch these sick fucks. Looking over every detail more closely has made it very clear that no singular person could be responsible for this level of carnage. Y/N’s body has been wheeled away by the coroner, but the bloody outline of her remains on the floor. Eddie’s own became a little muddied when he was taken to the hospital, smudges and smears leading where they ought not to. Disconnection, a word that rings in Hopper’s mind as he studies it.
He receives the call a short time before things wrap up for the night, Eddie didn’t make it. He barely made it into an operating room before the blood loss took him out. Hopper supposes it’s better that way. Rather than Eddie get all cut open and stitched up again, only to find out his wife is gone. He doubts the young man would’ve been able to cope with the loss, or anyone, for that matter. Jim certainly didn’t take the death of his own daughter very well, it’s one of many reasons why he ended up back in this podunk town. At least now, (Hopper hopes, anyway), the Munsons will be able to rest peacefully with one another, no longer subject to the unbridled hatred they faced from their so-called neighbors. He imagines them in a far happier place, speeding around on their motorcycle, blasting heavy metal from the portable stereo strapped to Y/N’s hip, riding down a long, winding road to that great big D&D campaign in the sky. If Jim hadn’t become rather disillusioned with religion, he could almost believe it. 
After Hopper has dismissed everyone, he stops by the corner store to pick up a six-pack to indulge in once he arrives home. He spends the short drive struggling to hold the anger and tears in, he’s already spent hours keeping up the stoic act that’s required of him. Add on top of  that the immense frustration that came from his lower officers besmirching the badge with their careless conduct tonight, and he’s about ready to punch a damn hole in the wall. The moment he makes it through the door to his place, tosses his hat and jacket to a chair in the corner, and sinks down onto his sofa, he can’t hold it back any longer. A choked sob escapes his trembling lips, a harsh breath sucked in right after it. His shaking hands fumble with one of the beers, struggling to push the tab open. When his finger slips a couple times too many, he drops the can onto the floor in defeat, his head falling forward into his hands. He cries softly, still hanging onto the idea that his manhood might be in jeopardy if he lets out the wails he’s got chained up inside. He just sits, eyes scrunched closed tight as tears spill from them, his chest heaving in thick, noiseless bellows as he mourns. 
In an odd way, he had become a bit of a father figure to the Munsons over the years. Neither of them had much in the way of loving homes, except for Eddie’s uncle Wayne. But the poor man worked a lot, leaving Eddie to fend for himself most of the time, though it wasn’t really his fault. Wayne provided everything he could for the boy, until cancer took him unexpectedly in ‘88. Shit, that day was sunshine and lollipops compared to this one. The preceding funeral was small, only attended by Eddie and Y/N, himself, and a few of Wayne’s coworkers from the plant. Eddie kept things short and sweet, just the way his uncle liked it. Afterwards, the three of them went to the Hideaway for a couple drinks. Hopper ignored Y/N’s use of a fake ID, given the circumstances, as well as being off-duty. There wasn’t a dry eye between them, though warm smiles graced their lips regardless as they recalled happy stories of Wayne through the years.
Hopper slowly wipes his hands down along his face once he gets ahold of himself. He picks up the dropped beer, surely it can’t blow up on him after sitting for so long. He cracks it open despite his tear-blurred vision, and chugs it down like bitter medicine to drown his sorrows. It warms his belly instantly, foaming up into a loud belch once he’s swallowed. He sighs, feeling just a little bit better. He supposes the rest of the pack should finish the job, at least for tonight. He sits back on the sofa, clicking the remote to the TV and hopes something is on this late. He grabs a second beer from the bundle. The hiss of the seal breaking seems to hush his thoughts, like a kind woman comforting his uneasy mind. The first sip is like a tender kiss, dizzying his head and warming his body up from the inside out. “Shit, I really need to get laid.” Hopper thinks aloud to himself, not exactly intending to put much effort into such a task. Oh well, nothing another sip couldn’t fix.
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A few months earlier…
“We’ve got another one.” You say as you pick up what must be the fiftieth dead animal that’s been left outside the door to your apartment. It’s a pigeon this time. But you’ve found mice, squirrels, rats, frogs, a couple cats, and even a raccoon laid out for you in this very spot before. It’s been happening for months, both before the accusations leveled against you and Eddie, and even more so after.
“Shit, again?” Eddie sighs, scrunching his nose as you hold the pigeon by its feet. Its neck has been snapped, a dribble of blood coming from its beak. “That’s the third one this week.” He leaves you alone with it for a moment, retrieving a plastic bag from the kitchen. “And we’re the ones accused of hurting little critters like this one.” Eddie scoffs in frustration on his journey back to you. “Maybe we should call Hop again.” He offers as he holds the bag open for you to put the poor animal inside it.
“There’s no point, Eds. Even if they catch whoever is doing this, someone else will surely take their place.” You reply in resignation, letting the bird plop into the bag with a dull rustle. Eddie ties it off, the two of you going back to the kitchen. He tosses the pigeon in the trash, and you both wash your hands. You would bury the animals, out of respect, but living in an apartment doesn’t exactly allow for burial sites. Not to mention said animal cemetery would fill up pretty fucking quickly with how many new additions show up on your welcome mat.
“It would be better than doing nothing.” Eddie huffs, drying his hands with a towel.
“Let’s face it, love. This town hates us. Always has. Always will. If we get Hop involved, all it will do is show them that they’re getting to us. Then they win.” You reason, though it would be  untruthful to say the ongoing torture you’ve both endured isn’t getting to you. But the narrow-minded people of this town don’t need to know that. If anything, the intense urge to carry on out of spite drives you to keep the discomfort to yourself. Outside the walls of your own home, that is. 
Neither you or Eddie are strangers to torment. Even back in your school days, all kinds of nasty names would be thrown your way in the halls of Hawkins High. You’d found refuge in each other pretty quickly back then. You were a budding little freshman, and Eddie was a junior barely skating by in all his classes. From the moment your eyes met, you were both total goners. Eddie’s wild curls and boisterous attitude sent you careening head over heels, and your dark style dragged him down the same road right alongside you. Your shared love for metal music and all things nerdy deepened your connection, further weaving you together as a gleaming example of true love, soulmates. You got each other, when no one else did. 
Your bond has only grown stronger over the years, sturdy roots set in your hearts. You helped Eddie study when ‘86 was his last chance to graduate, which was quite a task in itself. Despite your rebellious style and interests, you’re quite the bookworm. You were patient with him, keeping him on track with sweet kisses and touches as ‘rewards’ for doing so well, among other things. In turn, he spoiled you to no end, taking you on sweet dates and presenting you with whatever new book you’d been eyeing lately. And you always had each other’s backs when bullies came your way. Silver tongues have served your mouths well, and a defensive punch on one another’s behalf didn’t hurt, either. 
And, until recently, your shared adult lives have been better than you ever imagined. You moved in together right after graduation, finally free from unfair curfews and sneaking in through bedroom windows. Eddie got himself straightened up, ending his dealing days and getting a job as a mechanic, while still mentoring the Hellfire club on the side. Meanwhile, you have quickly established yourself as the coolest librarian Hawkins has ever seen. The library has never had  such a wide selection of horror and fantasy, everything the kiddos love, despite their parents’ protests. They also happen to love you, for encouraging their curiosity and creativity.
When Eddie popped the question a couple years ago, you were over the moon. It was a beautiful Halloween Wedding, with you in a black gown as you stood at the altar with Eddie in a field littered with colorful leaves. Hopper was kind enough to officiate, and Wayne and all the kids you care so much about were in attendance. Your own parents refused their invite, having long-since rejected you for your ‘un-Christian ways’. So, Wayne did the honor of giving you away, which meant the world to you. The ceremony was short and sweet, and after some simple sandwiches and cake in the park, Eddie whisked you off in his arms to enjoy the perfect honeymoon at home. Nothing but fucking for a solid week straight, all of which was the ultimate mix of affectionate and wild. Neither of you would’ve had it any other way. Every single second of your entire relationship has felt like the easiest thing in the entire world, bringing you nothing but happiness.
What you’ve been subjected to lately, though, is far from easy. As has been said, you’re no stranger to mistreatment. You don’t get through life looking the way you do, liking the things you like, without earning a few dirty looks and unseemly comments. It comes with the territory. But the last few months are nothing you’d ever expected.The stares and verbal jabs are there, alright. But then there’s the graffiti on your front door, poorly drawn pentagrams and misspelled swears. The dead animals, delivered to your door numerous times a week. Broken mirrors on your shared motorcycle if it’s parked on the street a little too long. Books stolen from the library that you later find burned by the dumpsters out back. Calls for books to be outright banned and removed from the library due to ‘satanic or inappropriate material’, all of which have thankfully been dismissed by the Mayor and any other officials involved. Freedom of speech wins out, for once. Although it doesn’t mean much, when everything has only escalated since the Pete Howell incident.
Pete Howell was a freshman member of Eddie’s Hellfire Club, a sweet young kid who has a similar homelife to your own. Unloving parents, who usually don’t pay much attention to him…unless he’s in trouble. They’re far more attentive then, so to speak. That’s how this whole thing started. Pete came to school last month with far more bruises than usual, ones he couldn’t write off as clumsy mishaps. When questioned by teachers, and Eddie, he vehemently denied anyone did anything to him. He said he ‘fell going down the stairs’ and would be fine. Knowing that was clearly bullshit, Eddie did the right thing and asked Hopper to look into it. 
Someone must’ve tipped off Mr. and Mrs. Howell that he was coming, because by the time he knocked on their door, they had the whole story cooked up for him. They claimed that Eddie had brought him to your apartment after a D&D session, and the two of you made him engage in all sorts of vile acts. Ritual sacrifice, spellcasting, and various sexual activities as a means to summon the devil. Hopper didn’t buy a word of it, he knows you both far too well to think you’d ever be capable of such a thing. 
To be properly thorough, he had a doctor check Pete out, ask him more questions. While there was no evidence of sexual abuse, Pete started singing a far more zealous tune than he was before. He screamed bloody murder about all the evil things you’d done to him, how scared he was, how much you hurt him. It made you sick to your stomach when Hopper came around to warn you that he had no choice in searching your place for evidence. To think that anyone would accuse you or Eddie of doing such disgusting things, it sent your heart sinking like a stone in your chest. In order to clear up this ridiculous matter, you allowed the police to go through all your belongings, and answered every single question they asked. Hopper thankfully kept the reporters at bay, but it didn’t take long for the populace at large to spread the rumors like wildfire. 
The couple of weeks during the investigation were absolute hell. You could barely leave the apartment without a police escort, and whichever officer you were assigned at the time seemed less than enthused to assist you. When you did dare to step outside, cameras were on you immediately, as well as a sea of recognizable faces shouting and screaming at you. Calling you a whore of the devil, a witch, a monster, saying similar things to Eddie as well. These were people you’d known your entire life, and they turned on you with very little resistance. The fanatical preachers, trashy tabloids and exaggerated news stories breaking out across the country certainly didn’t help. 
When you and Eddie were finally cleared of any wrongdoing, things only got worse. There were demands for Hopper’s badge, or his head, as well as yours. What they did get was Eddie’s banishment from school property. ‘To be on the safe side’, as Principal Higgins put it. Pete has stuck to his story since then, you imagine under threat of being beaten even harder next time. You don’t blame him, he’s just a scared, hurt child. His parents have garnered mountains of support from the community, who have come together in an effort to drive you and Eddie out of town, by any means necessary. Threatening phone calls at all hours and vulgar letters slipped under your door have joined the mix now, to a point where you’ve left the phone unplugged, and taped the bottom of your front door to prevent the letters from fitting under it. You often have nightmares of people breaking into the apartment, and hurting you or Eddie. It’s become difficult to get much sleep, without Eddie having to hold you close and coo sweet nothings as you cry. It makes you feel like you’re going insane at times, your mind left searching as to how people who once seemed rational could act in such a way. Satan is on everyone’s mind these days, and their devil detectors are now permanently poised directly at you. 
“I’m just so tired of being scared all the time. I worry about you every time you walk out that door, or when I do. I'm afraid that one day, one of us might not make it back at night.” You find yourself breaking down again, tears welling and lips trembling. You turn away, frustrated with losing what little control you have left. You ball your fists at your sides as you choke on anguished sobs. Eddie’s arms wrap around your middle as your eyes squeeze shut, his chest meeting your back with a welcome warmth.
“I’m scared too, sweetheart. Every time I drop you off at work, I spend every second hoping I don’t get a call or visit from Hop at the shop.” Eddie says softly, holding back his own tears. His hands find yours, loosening the knotted knuckles. He slowly makes you face him, his heart breaking at the redness of your face, the hopeless expression it carries. It kills him that he can’t do more for you, to protect you. He’s suggested buying a gun a couple of times, but you always refuse. He’s not exactly a fan either, but what else can he do? He intertwines his fingers with your own, keeping you close. “All we can hope for is that this will all blow over soon. Then we won’t have to be afraid anymore.”
“I know, love. I just wonder how long they’ll keep it up.” You reply, sounding utterly defeated.
“They’re bound to get tired of it eventually. Until then, we’ve got each other. We’ll be okay, angel.” Eddie assures you, pulling you further into his arms.
You sigh, welcoming his embrace. “I really hope you’re right, babe. Not sure how much more of this I can take.” You press your cheek into his chest, unable to quell the ever-growing uneasiness brewing inside you.
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October 31, 1991
“We’ve got them all set up for you, Chief. Whenever you’re ready.” Powell says as Hopper steps out of his office, having sent the cavalry to pick up a certain group of young men who sit at the top of his suspect list.
“Perfect. I’ll start with Hargrove.” Hopper smiles, chugging the rest of his black coffee, handing the mug off to Callahan. I’m gonna enjoy this, he thinks to himself as Powell leads him to the interrogation room. Their footsteps land on the linoleum with purpose, closing the distance between him and where the suspected ringleader in all this is being held. Jim sincerely hopes Billy gives him a good reason to manhandle him a little bit, some well-earned payback for what he’s done. His fist balls up of its own volition at the thought, his fingernails nearly drawing blood as they press into his palm. He closes his eyes and takes a very deep breath once he and Powell reach the door, letting it out nice and slow like his officially-mandated therapist showed him. 
“You good, Chief?” Powell asks, his hand trained on the doorknob as he awaits Hopper’s go-ahead.
“Never better.” Jim opens his eyes again, nodding to the officer. “Let’s do it.” With that, Powell opens the door, stepping inside with Hopper right behind him. “Know why you’re here, kid?” He asks Billy, not wasting any time. The young man is sitting in a stiff chair on one side of the table in the room, legs spread wide in tight blue jeans. A matching jacket rests over the back of the chair, leaving him in a ratty old t-shirt with the sleeves rolled up to reveal his muscles and tattoos.
“Not a clue.” Billy bites, crossing his thick arms. “Mind filling me in?” He asks with a smirk, adjusting in his seat. There’s not a lick of fear struck within him, only annoyance. As if being questioned about a serious crime is only a minor inconvenience to his day. Hopper has brought him in here many times before, but usually for far more petty things. He’d like to think any normal person would be at least a little bit nervous in this scenario. The completely unbothered demeanor Hargrove holds sends a chill scurrying up his spine.
“No problem.” Hopper grins back, already forgetting all the anger management techniques Linda has shown him. He drops a manila folder onto the table, opening it to face Billy. “As you know, Eddie and Y/N Munson were murdered last night in their apartment. Pretty gruesomely, if I might add.” Jim spreads the crime scene photos out across the table, letting the kid have a good long look, searching for a reaction. But Billy’s eyes barely flick down for a glance, deepening the unsettling feeling in Hopper’s stomach. 
“What’s that gotta do with me?” Billy asks, shrugging his shoulders. His lip is fixed stiff, eyebrows drawn downward to evoke confusion. But Hopper isn’t buying it.
“Why don’t you tell me? Where were you last night?” Jim asks.
“I was out with friends.” Billy answers coldly.
“Which friends?” Hopper continues, hoping to make the kid slip up in his quick succession of questions. The method usually works out pretty well for him.
“Tommy, Steve, and Jason.” Billy answers just as quickly, his eyes barely blinking as he keeps up just fine. 
“And what were the four of you doing?” Hopper questions.
“Drinking beers, hanging out.” The young man responds.
“And what time was this?” 
“I dunno, man. All night, probably?” There it is, a flash of uncertainty. Hopper can use that.
“Probably? I’m gonna need you to be more specific.” Jim smiles, hoping whatever lies Billy’s got lined up will start to crumble.
“Do I look like I wear a watch? I don’t know how long it went on for. But we stayed at Steve’s all night, our girls were there, too. You can ask them.” Billy snaps, losing that cool, calculating exterior.
“Oh, you bet I will.” Hopper chuckles, feeling a little too much satisfaction at making the kid crack just a bit. It’s the small victories that matter in life, after all. If he keeps at it, with the other boys, too, he’s almost certain he can nail them for this. “You wanna know what I think?” Jim asks, hoping to goad a few more mistakes out of Billy before taking a run at the other three.
“What?” Billy scoffs, rolling his eyes.
Hopper stands up, leaning as far over the table as he can reach. His face sits centimeters away from Billy’s, and the proximity seems to shake the kid up just the tiniest bit more. “I think you and your psychopathic little friends were real upset when I found no evidence of the Munsons doing what everyone claims they did. So, you decided to take matters into your own hands. They certainly suffered enough harassment and threats. Someone was bound to get fed up pussy-footin’ around and do what everybody in this town has wanted to. I think you rounded up your boys, and finished the job. I think you broke into the Munson’s home, you tortured them, and then you killed them. That’s what I think.” Jim resists the urge to spit in the young man’s face, backing off and sitting down in his chair.
Billy sits with the accusation for a moment, before bursting out laughing. It’s certainly not the reaction Hopper was expecting. “That’s quite a theory you got there, Chief!” He hollers, pounding his fist on the table as if he’s just been told the funniest joke in the entire world. “You’ve got a real sick sense of humor, I like it.” He chuckles as he calms himself down. Deep red amusement colors his cheeks and throat. “Too bad you can never prove it.” He sighs loudly, pretending to be disappointed. “Like I said, I was with my boys, and my lady, havin’ some drinks. I’d tell ya more, but I doubt you wanna hear the details of my sex life.” He laughs callously, before continuing. “Now, even if I did kill those freaks, I doubt anyone will miss them.” His smile grows a little, revealing the joy in his words. “We all know what they were, what they were capable of.” He speaks slowly, baiting Hopper into losing his cool. 
“And what would that be?” Jim asks, daring the little fucker to say another word about them.
“They were a couple of evil devil worshippers, posing a threat to this community! A community you’re meant to be protecting, Hopper!” Billy shouts as he stands, his chair sliding back. “You know what that witch bitch and her faggot husband did to Pete Howell! And you did nothing about it!”
“I did my job.” Hopper bellows back, getting to his feet. “I searched their apartment, I made them feel like criminals to put this ignorant town at ease! I had Pete checked out! I did everything I was supposed to, you insolent fuck! I couldn’t find a damn thing to back up this bullshit you and everybody else continue to spew all over the place!” His voice raises more and more with every sentence. 
“Chief.” Powell says quietly, hoping to get his boss’s attention. But Hopper pays him no mind. In fact, he goes around the table to get at Billy, quickly leading him backwards by the collar to slam into the wall.
“They were good people! They never hurt anyone! Even in the face of all this hatred you hurled at them, they still managed to be kind! Which is more than I can say for you, or anyone else in this godforsaken town!” Jim shouts in the young man’s face, earning no reaction besides that same stupidly smug smirk. He breathes heavily, still gripping Billy’s shirt in his hands.
“I’d like my lawyer now.” Billy says coolly, having lured Hopper right into his trap. He’s aware of the close relationship the Chief had with the Munsons, so it was easy enough to exploit. No way a judge will convict him now, not after the investigating officers have gotten physical with him. Add on his rock-solid alibi, and he probably won’t even see any charges. 
“Fuck.” Hopper sighs, his head falling to look at the floor once he realizes what he’s done. He can kiss justice for Eddie and Y/N goodbye. His hands slowly release Billy’s shirt, and he turns away to have a fucking breather before he goes for his next opponent. 
The other young men provide the same story to Hopper, asking for lawyers shortly after their almost identical retellings. Things were already not looking good after his outburst earlier, and it’s only getting worse as the night wears on. As predicted, the ‘girls’ in question for the alibi 一Nancy Wheeler, Carol Perkins, Vicki Carmichael, and Tina Johnson一 all corroborate Billy’s tale. The lawyers and parents give him an earful or two, and he’s left with four empty interrogation rooms and no arrests by the end of his shift. He goes home feeling even worse than he did yesterday, picking up two six-packs on the way home this time. Time will tell if he’s ever able to recover from this, but as one of Y/N’s gag oracles would say: ‘outlook not so good’.
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October 30th, 1992
Inky clouds flood the night sky as the hour grows late, small blooms of light from the full moon willfully piercing the thick blanket in defiance. Max sits cross-legged before Y/N’s grave in Roane County Cemetery, scrubbing red spray-painted graffiti from it with a soapy sponge. She dips the sponge in a bucket beside her to refresh it, ignoring the knot tied up inside her at what the defacement says. ‘Burn in Hell Bitch’. An accompanying message still sits untainted on Eddie’s, ‘Burn in Hell Fag’.
“They could’ve at least bothered to put the commas in.” A low voice speaks from behind Max, startling her. She turns around, finding Hopper standing a couple feet away. He wears a sad smile beneath his wide-brimmed hat, coming closer to her. “Want some help?” He asks, groaning slightly as he joins her on the moist grass.
“Yeah.” Max replies, nodding. “Thanks.” She reaches into the bucket, handing him the sopping piece of foam. “I swear, every time I clean this shit off, someone comes along and puts something else in its place. I’m sick of it.” She expresses her frustration, feeling free to do so in Hopper’s presence.
“You and me both, kid. But I’m sure the Munsons appreciate you lookin’ after them.” Jim says, rubbing away at the ‘F’ on Eddie’s headstone. 
“I can’t believe it’s already been a year.” Max says sadly, low roars of thunder rumbling through the clouds above.
“Me either.” Hopper sighs, scraping a little harder now. It’s the least he can do, given how miserably he failed at catching the killers. He’s barely been by to visit since the funeral, too twisted up with guilt to bear looking at these very stones. The epitaphs are simple, yet capture exactly who the Munsons were. ‘Loving Wife (or Husband), Caring Friend, and Free Spirit’. 
Hopper remembers being tasked with handling their final arrangements, no living kin of theirs was interested in doing so. He allowed Max to help a little, choosing flowers and program designs. Small stuff, so Hopper himself could handle the hard part. Like selecting coffins, and deciding what these very graves would say to whoever may visit them. Max picked black dahlias, Y/N’s favorite. Jim also let her inside the apartment once the mess was cleaned up to find clothes for them to be buried in. He initially worried if it would’ve been too morbid for such a young girl, but she knew them well enough to select exactly what they would’ve wanted. A sleek black leather dress for Y/N, and a nice black shirt and clean matching jeans for Eddie. Hopper even made sure their wedding bands were released from evidence, and any other significant pieces Max could think of. He didn’t want to leave them incomplete before they were laid to rest. No one at the station seemed to mind, having already washed their hands of the case before the ground could break to bury the Munsons.
The funeral itself was a small affair. Only Hopper, Max, a non-denominational minister, and the few kids in town who weren’t banned from going were in attendance. The proceedings were peaceful, though, thankfully free from any protesters. Everything was kept short and sweet, the way the Munsons would have wanted it. Jim doubts they would’ve cared for a drawn-out sobfest, quite the opposite. They would’ve wanted whoever cared to show up to remember them as they were. Two sweet, loving, hilarious, eccentric, beautiful people who made the world so much brighter just by existing in it. So, that’s what he did. When the bodies were lowered into the ground, Hopper walked the kids to the ice cream shop, and everyone took turns telling their favorite memories of their lost friends. There were lots of laughs and tears, leaving the day feeling unbearably bittersweet. Just the way Y/N and Eddie wanted it to be.
“Is it weird that I talk to them sometimes?” Max asks, breaking the silence. She doesn’t look at Jim, worried he may judge her.
“Not at all. I used to talk to my Sarah sometimes.” Hopper says, dipping his sponge in the bucket. “She was my little girl…” He trails off, wondering how much he should tell her. “She got sick, and we did everything we could for her. But it wasn’t enough.” He adds, letting out a low sigh.
“I’m sorry.” Max says, looking at him now. 
“Don’t be, it was a long time ago.” He shakes his head, forcing a smile as he returns to scrubbing. 
The two of them keep going until all the offending red is washed away, leaving Y/N and Eddie looking spotless once again. They speak casually, passing the time in one another’s company, ignoring the flashes of lightning that periodically screech across the sky. Max dumps the bucket out once the work is done, wringing the sponges out thoroughly. “Mind giving me a ride home? Looks like it’s gonna rain.” She asks, peering up uneasily at the stormclouds. 
“Sure, kid. I’ll even get you some grub on the way.” Hopper agrees, taking hold of the bucket to carry it for her.
“BK?” She asks hopefully, pouting her lower lip out.
“You got it.” Hopper chuckles, finding a smidge of Sarah in Max’s feigned puppy eyes. “C’mon, we’d better beat this rain.” He takes her hand in his free one, and they walk together out of the cemetery just as the first drops start to fall.
The clouds grow thicker, claps of thunder and strikes of lightning clashing in the sky like a raging battle of the gods is taking place. A lone crow flies overhead the newly cleaned headstones, its caw barely audible over the storm. It lands on Y/N’s grave as the rain begins to pour in curtains, ruffling its shiny feathers, pecking at the newly-washed stone with its obsidian beak. It lets out another caw, tilting its head side to side in curiosity as it peers at the ground. A booming rumble breaks through the air, followed by a bright white streak of lightning piercing the earth where the woman lies resting. The crow caws again, and the ground begins to groan and wheeze as it shifts. Bulging rolls form beneath the green grass, rippling in thick waves. 
The bird makes its call one final time, a crack suddenly splitting the earth open in a tangled mess of dirt and roots. A puddle quickly pools in the hole, mud sliding down inwards. And a twitching hand springs up out of the grave, clawing for purchase on the slick edge of the rift with black painted fingernails.
To Be Continued…
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The ending of s3 is so fun to analyze. Mike having his eyes open in the kiss is interesting to me because if he was truly happy and shocked that she felt the same way I can see why his eyes might be opened for like a split second or maybe at most 3 seconds before they flutter closed and he grabs her and pulls her closer but he doesn’t do any of that. It’s a one sided kiss and his eyes are open the entire time and even after she leaves he’s expression doesn’t get any better. He looks lost. The camera is also panning away from him making him look really small and alone in Will’s empty room just to drive home that lost feeling. When he goes home to hug his mom he looks numb. I don’t think he looks up or at her once. His walk from the front door to the spot where his mom hugs him with this zoned out numb expression the entire time. I do believe the hug to be a parallel to the s1 hug after Mike believes Will to be dead but this one in s3 is a different feeling because he’s not just upset or sad that Will is leaving. I think he finally realizes that he feels more for Will than he does El. For so long I think Mike wanted it to work out with El and maybe he even thought it could and then she tells him that she loves him and he realizes that it never will but he obviously doesn’t want to hurt her. That must be such a terrifying feeling to deal with by yourself. Who do you confide in when you’re a scared closeted gay kid in the 80’s.
I absolutely agree 100% with everything you said. Ironically, season 3 is the season with the most "Mileven" moments as a couple, but it’s also the season where it becomes most obvious how Mike is forcing conformity through his relationship with Eleven. It’s clear that it’s all just a show for him. He deliberately shows up late to the regular movie outings with Lumax and Will, spends the whole summer making out with El but never integrates her into the friend group. This is evident when El clearly doesn’t know Max well when she first approaches her (and the same goes for Will). Even when El finally joins the group to welcome Dustin back, Mike convinces her to leave and make out on the hill under the pretext of curfew, even though Dustin has just arrived. Why would they waste time climbing a hill only to leave when they’ve nearly reached the top? It’s because all of this is just a performance for Mike—he wants everyone to see that he has a girlfriend. It’s pure overcompensation.
That’s also why he seems more emotionally invested in his argument with Will than in his breakup with El. The signs are all there, and the most telling, as you mentioned, is that famous scene at the end of season 3. Why would Mike remain completely still, eyes open, not kissing back, not saying anything, showing no facial expression, no smile, after his girlfriend—who broke up with him three months earlier (a situation he supposedly found frustrating, based on what he showed his friends)—tells him she loves him back? Why does his expression seem so confused after the kiss? And all of this takes place in Will’s bedroom, in front of an open closet with a light shining directly over Mike’s head.
Hopper’s letter, which applies perfectly to Mike, Mike going into his mother’s arms with that same lost expression, mirroring the hug he gave when he thought Will was dead in season 1... It’s clear that this scene was crafted to show that Mike, with that kiss, realizes he doesn’t feel what he’s supposed to feel while kissing his girlfriend (someone he had claimed to “love” three months earlier in the heat of the moment, fearing he would lose her). He didn’t feel what he’s been trying so hard to feel throughout season 3 and in the unseen months between the end of season 2 and the start of season 3. Despite all his efforts, he doesn’t feel what he thinks he should—and yet, he does feel what he’s looking for when he’s with Will.
The Mike at the end of season 3 is a Mike who realizes he doesn’t feel what he’s supposed to feel with girls, while also living in a time when being queer was synonymous with illness and death. Indeed, our poor Mike is hiding so much fear and pain because of this.
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steve harrington x fem!reader Open Arms Masterlist word count: 9k Rewrite/Character Insert of Stranger Things ~1984~ a/n: this is the final rewrite chapter for season 2. the next few chapters will take place between seasons, before we jump into season 3. i'm torn between having the reader and steve already happily in love, or building their relationship with a slower, more gradual "slow burn" approach. let me know if you have a preference on which direction you'd like to see their story go. ⠂⠄⠄⠂⠁⠁⠂⠄⠄⠂⠁⠁⠂⠄⠄⠂ ⠂⠄⠄⠂☆
The house is still. Despite the number of people inside, everything—and everyone—feels frozen. The air hangs heavy, dense enough that even a falling leaf would plummet straight down instead of drifting aimlessly.
In that oppressive silence, Nancy’s hand rests gently on Jonathan’s shoulder as he murmurs soft, repeated apologies to his unconscious brother. Hopper’s voice thunders from another room, shouting into the phone at God knows who. The stark contrast between Jonathan’s whispered pleas and Hopper’s roaring urgency only adds to the weight pressing down on all of you.
Your gaze flicks between Jonathan, Nancy, and Steve. But Steve’s attention is fixed entirely on her. His expression is unreadable, a puzzle you can’t help but want to solve. Slowly, you step closer, your heart pounding as you search his face for some unspoken answer buried in his eyes. As if sensing your approach, Steve straightens, brushing a hand over his face in a failed attempt to mask the quiet sniffle that escapes. When his bloodshot eyes finally meet yours, you feel a pang of something you can’t quite name—pity, frustration, or maybe just the ache of knowing him so well.
This is the Steve you’ve always known—bold and self-assured, with a fiercely loyal heart that makes him impossible to walk away from. But tonight, his edges are frayed, his armor cracked under the weight of everything he’s faced. He doesn’t just observe the heaviness in the room; he feels it, wearing it like a second skin. As he watches Nancy with Jonathan—her hand on his shoulder, her gaze soft in a way Steve hasn’t seen in years—the truth settles quietly: Nancy isn’t his anymore. Her heart belongs to someone else. Yet instead of hurt, Steve feels peace—peace in letting go and realizing he might finally belong somewhere too.
Steve’s gaze shifts back to you, his jaw tightening, his hand flexing at his side as though resisting an urge he can’t quite act on. His eyes hold an intensity that sends a shiver through you. It isn’t the first time you’ve seen him look at you like this, but now it feels heavier, more deliberate.
His hand brushes lightly across your stomach, guiding you to follow him, his silent invitation impossible to ignore. He leads you into the kitchen, where he leans back against the counter. You steady yourself beside him, your fingertips accidentally grazing his, sparking a thrill of nerves. You hold your breath, unsure of what he might do now that Nancy’s here, lingering so close. But instead of pulling away, he surprises you—sliding his finger between yours, linking them together. In that small, quiet gesture, he says everything: I’m here. We’re here, and we’re in this together.
You both stay there, fingers subtly intertwined, as the kids reminisce about Bob.
Your mind drifts back to that summer you washed cars tirelessly, saving every dollar for a Walkman. You remember the pride you felt when you finally walked into RadioShack and handed Bob your hard-earned cash. He showed you how to use it, and from that day on, whenever he saw you, he made sure you knew about the latest and greatest models. He ignited your love for collecting them, and in a way, he fed your love of music. Bob is a hero, gone far too soon. Now, a fierce need for revenge against those monsters burns within you, alongside a deep desire to honor the memory of Bob Newby, the town’s unsung hero.
“We can’t let him die in vain,” you say, breaking the silence.
Dustin huffs in frustration. “Well, we can’t take down those Demo-dogs on our own.”
“Demo-dogs?” Max repeats, confused.
He shoots her an irritated look. “Demogorgon dogs. Demo-dogs. It’s like… a compound word. A play on words…”
You raise your eyebrows, giving Max a sarcastic nod. “Yeah, Max. Keep up.” She giggles despite the tension.
“There’s an army now,” Lucas says, his tone filled with doubt.
Mike’s voice cuts through the chatter. “His army.”
Steve perks up, his focus shifting. “What do you mean?”
The group gathers closer, ideas bouncing back and forth as Dustin pieces it together, dubbing the creature “the Mind Flayer.” You lean against the table, feeling Steve’s gaze on you again, steady and unwavering.
Nancy notices too, her eyes darting between the two of you. She sees the fear flickering in your eyes and the fierce determination in Steve’s to shield you from this nightmare. But it’s more than determination—there’s an intimacy there, a connection that echoes a past she knows the two of you share. She should feel jealous; after all, she spent the last year with this man, the one now looking at you like you’re the most precious thing he’s ever known. As Jonathan’s hand brushes hers, she feels something else—guilt.
Nancy squeezes Jonathan’s hand, grounding herself, but her gaze flicks back to Steve one last time.
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At last, the plan is in place. You split into groups, and you find yourself alongside Jonathan, while Nancy and Steve head into the shed to transform it into something unrecognizable for Will.
“So… you and Nancy, huh?” you tease, nudging Jonathan lightly.
His cheeks flush, and he glances away. “Is it that obvious?”
“Not really. I just like to think I know you well enough to tell when you’re truly happy.”
He sighs, his shoulders sagging under the weight of everything that’s happened. “I shouldn’t be, though. While I was with Nancy, Will was here… suffering.”
“Jonathan,” you say gently, your voice firm, “you weren’t just off with Nancy. You were uncovering the truth, fighting for justice for Barb, and exposing something that could have swallowed Hawkins whole. When we get Will back, he’s going to be so proud of what you did to help stop this.”
You rest a hand on his arm, offering reassurance, and for a moment, Jonathan meets your eyes. There’s gratitude in his expression.
In the shed, Nancy and Steve work tirelessly, stapling whatever they can find to the walls in a desperate attempt to reach Will. The air between them feels lighter, but there’s still a lingering tension, a subtle unease that neither of them wants to name.
Nancy hesitates, stealing a glance at Steve before swallowing her pride. “Hey. What you did—helping the kids, keeping them safe… that was really cool.”
Steve blinks, surprised by the compliment. Not long ago, her words chipped away at every ounce of confidence he had—in himself, in his worth as a boyfriend, even in the kind of man he wants to be. But now, as her words settle in, it isn’t Nancy he’s thinking about. It’s you.
He thinks of all those years when he’d felt a nagging emptiness—not smart enough to impress his teachers, not strong enough to earn his father’s respect, not sure he’d ever be the guy to win over the girl. And yet, through it all, you’ve been there. You were always there, quietly anchoring him in a way he hadn’t fully understood until now. All those fleeting touches, secret smiles, and stolen moments with you—the girl everyone teased him about, the one he swore he wasn’t in love with—have built something stronger than he ever realized.
The Steve of yesterday might have begged Nancy to reconsider, to tell him she’d made a mistake and still loved him. But the Steve of today doesn’t need to. He knows now that Nancy wasn’t meant for him, just as he wasn’t meant for her. He had known it the day he found her and Jonathan in the Byers’ living room, their hands bound by blood, their connection undeniable. They belong together, and maybe they always have.
But Steve also knows where he belongs now. For so long, he believed that love meant chasing, proving, or convincing someone to choose him. Yet when he looks at you—standing just outside the shed, picking up an axe with confident hands—it’s like the weapon belongs to you. You hold it naturally, without hesitation. Steve feels a pull so steady and certain it leaves no room for doubt. He doesn’t have to beg for your love because it’s already there, as it’s always been.
Nancy notices it once again. There’s that same feeling from earlier—guilt. Guilt for trying to mold Steve into a part of her life that never truly fit. Deep down, she has always known where her heart belongs. And now, watching the way you and Steve gravitate toward each other, she realizes something else: maybe his heart has never fully belonged to her either. The way he looks at you—like you’re the only thing keeping him from crumbling under the weight of it all—it’s a look she’s never seen him give her. And somehow, someway, she’s at peace with that.
You step into the shed, your steps hesitant as you cross into the quiet space. “Am I interrupting something?” you ask, your voice tentative.
“No! Not at all,” Nancy says quickly, offering you a smile that’s softer than you expect. “Actually, thank you. For everything. You didn’t have to get involved in all this, but we really need you.”
You blink in surprise at her sincerity but manage to find your voice. “Of course. I just… I wish I could’ve done more sooner. And I’m sorry. For… for Barb and everything else.” There’s a double meaning in your words, one that lingers unspoken, but you hope Nancy hears it anyway.
Silence settles between the three of you, awkward but not hostile. “Well,” you say, stepping back toward the door, “I guess you guys have it covered in here. I’ll, uh… I’ll let you get back to it.”
You leave quickly, your heart racing for reasons you can’t quite pin down. But as you glance over your shoulder one last time, you catch Steve watching you. You nod, and he smiles—soft and sure, like he’s been waiting for this. Then you step into the night, his gaze still lingering in your mind.
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While Joyce, Mike, Hopper, Jonathan, and Will are all out in the shed, the rest of you stay inside.
You wait in the dim living room with Steve, backs pressed against the wall. Tensions are high, but in this quiet moment, with danger pressing in around you, both your walls are down.
“So…” you start, biting your lip as you realize you’ve spoken just to fill the silence, only to find yourself without anything to say.
“So.”
“Are we… good?” you ask, the words barely more than a whisper.
Steve leans his head back against the wall, his Adam’s apple bobbing as he swallows down the lump that’s been there every time you two have drifted to the edge of this conversation over the years.
“I don’t think we’ve ever been this perfect.”
There it is. The words hang heavy in the air, and tears spring to your eyes.
He starts again, his voice softer this time. “Friends don’t make each other feel like this.”
“Like what?” you ask, genuinely confused.
“Like if one of those monsters bursts through that door, there’s a chance I could lose my everything. My whole world. And there’s no chance I’d survive if that happened.”
“Y-your whole world… meaning?” The words catch in your throat, the weight of them hitting you before you can make sense of them.
He nods, his eyes locked on yours, confirming every word he just said.
“Not… not…” You glance toward the other room, where Nancy is sitting, unsure if you want the answer.
“No.” His voice is barely above a whisper, but it’s firm. The vulnerability in his eyes is so raw it almost breaks you.
Your heart races. His whole world. You don’t need him to say anything else—the depth of what he’s admitting is clear, and yet you can’t find the words to match it. The truth of it hangs between you, painful and perfect, all at once.
Finally, after what feels like an eternity, you speak, your voice trembling but steady. “Then I guess we have to survive tonight… so we can have a very important conversation tomorrow.”
Steve sighs, his gaze shifting upward as he stares at the ceiling, clearly lost in thought. His breathing catches slightly as he imagines what he wants, growing heavier with each passing second. “If we get out of here, I wanna do a lot more than just have a conversation with you.” He finally looks back at you, his eyes dark with intent, a smirk tugging at his lips.
You swallow, your heart thudding in your chest, caught off guard by the sudden shift in energy. You shift closer to him, trying to match his teasing intensity, but your voice comes out softer, playful despite the tension. “Then you better not let anything stupid happen to you tonight, Harrington.” You raise an eyebrow, a hint of challenge in your tone.
Right on cue, the ominous roars of the Demodogs reverberate in the distance. You, along with everyone else, rush to your feet.
“They’re coming!” Dustin announces.
“He found us,” you whisper.
Those who were in the shed, along with an unconscious Will, rush inside, their faces drained of color as the roars outside grow louder. Nancy grabs your axe from the table and extends it to you, a hint of mischief and excitement in her eyes. She secretly gets a thrill out of this, just like you do.
Your grip tightens around the axe, a firm resolve anchoring you. Just days ago, you didn’t even know the Upside Down—or the horrors within it—existed. But tonight, it’s as if you’ve been preparing for this moment your whole life. You look to Steve and tap your axe to his bat in solidarity. You’re ready to face whatever comes, together. There’s so much to defend now—not just your friends, not just your own life, but the fragile, precious hope of a future you’ve waited so long to finally feel within reach.
You all gather together, a mismatched group bound by a shared resolve, ready to fight with everything you’ve got to save your friend—and the town you call home. For Bob, you think.
The sound of the creatures’ footsteps surrounds you from every corner outside the house, making it impossible to pinpoint where to aim your weapon. Their skin-crawling screeches and chittering seep through the walls, sending an icy chill down your spine.
“What are they doing?” you ask, breathless with fear.
Suddenly, the screeching cuts off, and one of the creatures comes crashing through the window, glass shattering in every direction. You all step forward cautiously, you more than the others. After a tense moment, you tap it with your axe. “It’s dead.”
Before you can catch your breath, you hear the front door’s lock turn. In sync, everyone shifts their attention toward it. The door creaks open, and in walks a girl—dressed in all black, her hair slicked back, jeans unevenly cuffed. A trickle of blood runs from her nose.
This must be El—the girl Mike is in love with, the one everyone was so sure had been lost forever.
Mike rushes to Eleven, asking, “Why didn’t you tell me you were safe?” His joy quickly fades when he realizes Hopper has been the one hiding her. A fight erupts and Hopper rushes Mike into the next room.
Eleven turns to rejoin her friends, but her sharp, assessing gaze lands on Max. You step forward with a gentle smile, determined to diffuse the tension.
“I’m Y/N,” you say softly. “I’ve been hoping to meet you.”
El’s expression shifts slightly, her features softening as her piercing glare toward Max wanes. She seems to recognize something in you—an ally, not a threat.
“Thanks,” Max murmurs quietly, the relief evident in her voice.
You glance toward Steve, Nancy, and Jonathan, then back to Max, offering a knowing smile. “Believe me,” you say with a touch of humor, “I get it.”
Max’s lips twitch into a tentative smile, and for the first time, El’s icy demeanor seems to thaw just a bit. A quiet chuckle passes between you and Max as she begins to piece together the reason behind El’s frosty reception.
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Once everyone settles, you all reconvene to finalize the next steps now that Eleven is here to close the gate to the Upside Down. There’s a tension in the air, a quiet urgency to everything. Every minute counts, but there’s no room for fear—not now. The stakes are higher than ever, and all of you can feel it.
The plan is set: to free Will from the beast’s grip, he’ll need to experience intense heat. The thought of what he has to go through sickens you, but you know there is no choice.
Once again, you split into groups. Steve’s gaze lingers on you as you organize everything. It’s clear he wants to stay close, to keep you safe. And you want the same. But you can’t let that get in the way. There’s no room for distractions now.
Nancy, on the other hand, hesitates. Her eyes flicker to Jonathan, and you see the guilt in her expression—she wants to go with him, knowing he’ll be heading to Hopper’s cabin with his mom and Will. But something keeps her rooted to the spot. The ghosts of old decisions, the moments when she chose Jonathan over Steve, seem to haunt her every step. You know how she feels, even if she won’t admit it. It’s a complicated web, and there’s no way out but through.
Taking a steadying breath, you volunteer Steve and Nancy to sift through the yard junk for heaters. They both look at you with surprise, clearly not expecting to be sent together again. But you know they need this moment, this chance to work together. Maybe, just maybe, it’ll give them a bit of closure. Something to put the past behind them. It’s not much, but it’s a step.
They reluctantly go, and you busy yourself with whatever you can do to help the kids inside. It feels like everything is moving so fast, the world spinning, and you’re just trying to hold on.
Outside, Steve and Nancy busy themselves with the junk pile. The silence feels like it lasts an eternity.
“You should go with him,” Steve says to Nancy, his tone quiet but firm.
Nancy looks up, confusion written across her face. 
“With Jonathan,” he states.
She scoffs, shaking her head. “No, I’m not just gonna leave Mike.”
Steve steps closer, picking up a heater she’d found and handing it to her gently. “No one’s leaving anyone, Nance. I may not have been the best boyfriend, but… turns out, I’m actually a pretty damn good babysitter. And besides…” He glances towards the house, where you’re trying to hold everything together, “I have help.”
Nancy looks at him, her voice softer now. “Steve…”
He smiles a little, though it’s tinged with something bittersweet. “It’s okay, Nance. It’s okay.”
There’s a long pause, and then Nancy’s eyes soften, her shoulders drooping in a way that shows the weight she’s carried for so long. “You know, I’m glad…” she says quietly, hesitating before finishing, “I’m glad you have… help.” She nods slightly in your direction.
Steve exhales deeply, feeling something in him finally loosen, as if Nancy’s words have given him permission to finally let go of the lingering tension. It’s a relief, but also a sad one. Because it’s not the resolution he wanted, but it’s the one that’s here. And for once, it feels like the first step towards peace.
“I actually have something I want to ask her,” Nancy says, giving Steve a quick squeeze on his arm as she walks away.
Nancy finds you inside, her hand gently grabbing your arm. “Hey, can I ask a favor?”
You look at her, unsure of what she’s about to ask. It’s strange, given everything that’s happened. Nancy’s been with both of your childhood friends, and you… well, you’ve been secretly in love with her ex. The air between you is thick with unspoken history and tangled emotions.
“Can you look after Mike for me?” Nancy asks quietly, almost nervously. “You’ve always been like a big sister to the boys, and… well, I can’t be there for him right now.”
Without thinking, you pull Nancy into a tight hug. “You know I’ll protect him like he’s my own little brother,” you reassure her softly, your voice steady despite the chaotic feeling inside.
Nancy lets out a shaky sob, her voice breaking. “I’m scared.”
You pull back slightly, wiping away a stray tear from her cheek. “I know. But if anyone can handle all of this, it’s you. In case you haven’t noticed… you’re kind of a badass,” you say, trying to lighten the mood just a little.
She chuckles, though it’s muffled by her tears. “Thanks,” she says quietly, her voice still cracking, but there’s a spark of something in her eyes—maybe hope.
You hold her for a moment longer before she pulls away, offering you one last sad smile before heading out.
As she walks away, you spot Mike, standing alone in the corner, his face a mask of quiet devastation. His tears are falling silently as he watches the girl he just got back slip away from him once again. Without thinking, you walk over to him and wrap a comforting arm around his shoulders. No words are needed. He doesn’t need to hear anything right now. All he needs is to feel your silent support, your steady presence in the storm.
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Inside, the kids have come up with a bold plan to help Eleven and Will. It’s risky, but it just might work. It requires going into the tunnels buried deep beneath Hawkins, the map that Will made. You can see the logic in it, but Steve is having none of it.
“Hey! This is not happening. No buts. I promised I’d keep you guys safe, and that’s exactly what I plan on. We’re staying here. On the bench. And we’re waiting for the starting team to do their job,” Steve says, his voice unwavering, protective.
“Does everybody understand?”
“This isn’t a stupid sports game,” Mike fires back.
“I said, does everybody understand that? I need a yes.”
You suppress a giggle at Steve’s surprisingly maternal tone. He’s serious, but there’s something comforting in it too—something that makes you feel, for a second, like everything will be okay.
Just as the tension peaks, the roar of an engine cuts through the air, making everyone jump. Max rushes to the window, her face draining of color. “It’s my brother. He can’t know we’re here. He’ll kill us.”
“Crap,” you mutter under your breath, panic setting in.
“What?” Steve asks, his frown deepening.
“I kind of forgot I had a date with Billy tonight.”
“You what!?” Steve exclaims, his eyes widening in disbelief, his frustration bubbling over. “You had a date with Billy?”
“I was bored, and he asked me out last week. I wasn’t looking for anything more than a distraction,” you explain quickly, trying to downplay the situation.
“And you had to pick him as the distraction!?” Steve says, voice dripping with exasperation.
“Steve, this is really not the time to have this conversation,” you say, nudging him toward the door, trying to push aside the tension building between you two.
You quickly motion for the kids to hide, and despite his irritation, Steve swallows his pride and steps into action, focusing on getting Billy out of the way. His annoyance with you fades—momentarily—as the bigger picture takes precedence.
Peering through the peephole of the door, you try to hear what’s going on outside, but the muffled voices barely reach you. All you can make out is that, somehow, both men look equally stunning in their jeans. Truly, works of art.
But it’s Steve who keeps your attention. This is King Steve in his prime. He’s cool, collected, calm in the face of danger—no trace of fear in his demeanor. It’s a side of him that always caught your eye, but now, in this moment, seeing him like this, your heart pounds in your chest. It’s a protective side of him, the side that would do anything to keep you safe.
Suddenly, both men turn toward the window.
You snap your head over and see the kids, wide-eyed and standing at the window like idiots. “What did I tell you!?” you whisper-yell, panic creeping into your voice. You turn back to see Billy slam Steve to the ground, his strength too much for the man to handle in the moment.
“Get behind me!” you shout to the kids, feeling the urgency in your voice.
Billy crashes through the door, his expression shifting from rage to surprise when he sees you standing there.
“Y/N,” he says, voice dripping with a mix of venom and curiosity. “You’re the last person I expected to see here. Although, I’ve heard some… interesting things about you and Harrington.”
You square your shoulders, refusing to show even the slightest trace of fear. “I guess now’s as good a time as any to tell you I can’t make it to our date tonight.”
“No,” Billy sneers, closing the space between you. “I don’t want Harrington’s sloppy seconds anyway.”
He takes another step, his breath grazing against your skin. “Now step aside, and let me talk to my sister.”
You push your fist gently against his chest, unflinching as you meet his eyes. “Billy, don’t. They’re just kids—let them hang out and have fun.”
Something dark flashes across his eyes, his patience thinning. “I said, step aside,” he growls, pushing past you with force and locking his gaze on Lucas. You stand your ground, knowing you’re not backing down. You’ll protect these kids, no matter what.
“I thought I told you to stay away from him, Max. And you know what happens when you disobey me. I break things.” He sweeps Lucas off his feet and slams him into the refrigerator. You run to his side attempting to pull him off of Lucas, to no avail. 
“Billy, stop!” You grab hold of his arms. He looks at you for a brief moment and Lucas takes the opportunity to knee him in the crotch. Billy doubles over, wincing in pain.
“You’re so dead, Sinclair! You’re dead,” he spits, his voice full of fury as he glares at Lucas.
Before you can even process what’s happening, Steve bursts in, shoving you and Lucas behind him, positioning himself between you and Billy with a protective stance.
“No. You are.” He says before landing a solid punch to Billy’s jaw.
Billy laughs menacingly, his voice dripping with mockery. “Looks like you’ve got some fire in you after all, huh? Been waiting to meet this King Steve everyone’s been talking about.”
“Get out,” Steve warns, his tone cold and steady.
And like a trigger, Billy is launching another punch at Steve. Thankfully, he evades it and rebuttals, his fist making contact with Billy once more. Billy swiftly recovers, his movements sharp and brutal. He grabs a plate from the nearby counter and smashes it onto Steve’s head, sending shards flying everywhere and disorienting him. Billy drives a knee into Steve’s throat. Steve gasps, choking at the impact.
You lunge forward, desperate to defend Steve, but he manages to choke out a barely audible, “No.” Billy seizes the opportunity, his attention quickly shifting to you, sensing your hesitation. Before you can react, he lunges at you, his hands reaching for your throat.
But Steve, still struggling to regain his strength, forces himself to push through the pain. His vision is blurry, and his head spins, but the sight of you in danger snaps him into action. With a growl of determination, he forces himself up, gritting his teeth against the pain as he tackles Billy to the ground, knocking him off balance.
Billy lets out a shout of anger, but Steve is relentless. He fights through his disorientation, throwing punch after punch, not allowing Billy a moment to recover. "Stay away from her!" Steve snarls, his voice filled with pure protectiveness as he shields you with his body.
Their struggle quickly moves into the living room, the sound of their grunts and the thud of fists against flesh filling the air. Billy, fueled by anger, overpowers Steve with brutal force. He pins Steve to the ground, delivering a hard punch to his jaw that sends a jolt of pain through Steve's entire body.
Fully depleted now, Steve endures blow after blow as Billy’s fists rain down on him. You want to cry, but the tears won’t come. Your body refuses to let you break down—not now. There’s no time for that. All that matters is thinking clearly and protecting your best friend.
The sedative. Where is the sedative they used on Will? Adrenaline surges through you as you search frantically, finally spotting it next to Max.
“MAX!” you shout, motioning to the syringe. She quickly hands it to you, and you rush to Steve’s side. With a swift motion, you jam the needle into Billy’s neck, pushing the plunger and releasing the toxin.
Billy looks at you, shock flooding his expression. Your breaths are uneven as you take a step back, trying to steady yourself. He staggers to his feet, the sedative starting to take hold. “What did you do to me?” he demands, his voice laced with disbelief.
“Don’t you ever touch him again,” you growl, stepping right into his space, daring him to make another move.
The silence after your shout feels suffocating, broken only by the shallow, ragged breaths coming from Steve. His bloodied face is pale, far too pale.
“Steve, please,” you whisper, your voice trembling. “You promised me, remember?”
He stirs faintly at your words, his lashes fluttering, but his eyes remain closed.
“Lucas! Dustin!” you shout, desperation cracking through the last fragile shred of composure. “Help me get him up! Now!”
The boys rush over, wide-eyed and terrified. Together, they help lift Steve’s limp form, his head lolling against your shoulder. You cradle the back of his neck with one hand, holding him close as you stumble toward the car.
Max’s tearful voice barely registers, sharp and angry as she shouts at Billy. But you can’t care about him. Not now. Not when Steve is barely conscious.
“I swear to God, Harrington,” you mutter through gritted teeth, your voice tight with anger and fear.
You glance down at him as you help load him into the backseat, your hand trembling as it brushes over his bloodied cheek.
Reluctantly, you climb into the driver’s seat, stealing one last glance at him before gripping the wheel. Only a few days ago, you’d driven him home drunk from a party, his laughter slurring together as he teased you the entire ride. You never thought you’d be doing the same thing now—except this time, with blood on his face and fear in your chest.
“Where to?” You ask. “The pumpkin patch, we’ll direct you,” Mike replies. The engine roars to life, the car lurching forward as you tear down the road. “Keep him awake, guys,” you say, glancing into the rearview mirror. The boys nod hurriedly, their voices soft but urgent as they try to rouse him.
Dustin shakes Steve a little too aggressively. “Hey, buddy...It's okay. You put up a good fight. He kicked your ass, but you put up a fight. You're okay.” 
The car jolts over a pothole, and you wince, glancing back. “Sorry,” you murmur, guilt twisting in your stomach.
Steve’s head shifts, his lips parting like he wants to say something, but all that comes out is a faint, pained sigh.
“Don’t even think about talking,” you snap, though your tone softens almost immediately. “Save it. You’re gonna need all your strength in a minute and don’t eyen get me started on tomorrow when I chew you out for this.” You force a bitter laugh, the sound more broken than you mean for it to be. “Trust me, Harrington, I will.”
A low groan escapes him, and his head turns slightly toward you, as if he’s trying to acknowledge your words.
Your hands tighten on the wheel as the car screeches to a stop outside the pumpkin patch. The boys jump out, voices overlapping as they shout about getting their supplies and jumping into the tunnels. But you stay frozen for a moment, staring back at Steve.
“I meant it, you know,” you whisper, leaning back to catch one last glimpse of his face. “You’ve got one night to pull yourself together, Harrington. Because tomorrow? You and I—we’re not leaving anything unsaid.”
His swollen lips twitch into a faint smirk. “Oh, I’m holding out, alright. For what I’m planning to do to you when all this is over.”
Your breath catches, and you freeze, staring at him. “You’ve got to be kidding me.”
He lets out a weak, pained chuckle. “What? You think I’m gonna go down without giving you something to think about?”
You scoff, trying to keep your composure, though the heat rising in your cheeks betrays you. “Hawkins is literally falling apart, Steve. You’re half-dead, we’re about to crawl into another dimension, tomorrow could change everything between us, and that’s what you’re focused on?”
“Gotta have priorities,” he murmurs, the smirk still somehow hanging on despite the pain etched across his face.
You roll your eyes, but there’s no hiding the way your heart stumbles in your chest. “Unbelievable,” you mutter, shaking your head. “Just try not to get yourself killed before you can make good on all these big plans, Harrington.”
His smirk softens just slightly, something warmer flickering in his gaze before his eyelids grow heavy again. “Wouldn’t dream of it.”
“Now c’mon, let’s go play with fire,” you say with a wink before stepping out of the car.
“Wait! Wait!” Steve calls after you, hobbling out of the car despite the pain etched on his face. “You and the kids are not going down there,” he insists, his voice firm, though his winces betray him.
You spin around to meet him, crossing your arms. “Right. Because you’re clearly in peak condition to handle this yourself,” you retort, your tone dripping with playful sarcasm.
Steve takes a sharp breath, steadying himself. “It could be another ambush,” he counters, his voice softer now but laced with concern. His hand reaches out, catching your arm gently as if holding you in place will keep you safe.
You glance at his hand, then back at him. “Well…” You slip your hand into his pocket, fishing around, which earns you a heavy sigh and a wide-eyed stare from him. His breath hitches, his cheeks tinged pink.
“What are you doing?” he manages, his voice cracking slightly.
You pull out his lighter and hold it up with a smirk. “Good thing we have fire and they don’t,” you say, a teasing glint in your eye.
Steve exhales sharply, running a hand through his hair as he shakes his head. “You’re gonna be the death of me,” he mutters, half in awe and half exasperated, but the small grin tugging at his lips gives him away.
“Now is not the time for your soap opera romance, people! Focus! Your job is to keep us alive,” Dustin grumbles, shoving bandanas and your weapons at both of you like an annoyed parent.
You stifle a laugh as you take one and wrap it around your face. Then, turning to Steve, you adjust his for him, tying it snugly behind his head.
“Thanks, mom,” Steve quips, his voice muffled through the fabric.
“Hey, at least she knows how to multitask,” Dustin fires back, rolling his eyes as he marches ahead into the tunnels.
You drop down into the dark tunnels behind the others, the strange, glowing particles swirling in the air like tiny stars. It’s eerie—ominous, even—but there’s a haunting beauty to it that almost distracts you from the danger. Almost.
“I’m pretty sure it’s this way. Follow me!” Mike announces, charging ahead with way too much confidence.
Steve stops him with an outstretched arm. “Whoa, whoa, whoa. No way. If any of you get hurt—or worse—down here, it’s my head on the chopping block. From now on, I’m leading the way. Got it?”
The kids exchange uncertain glances, and you catch yourself smiling. Watching Steve take charge, all protective and responsible, makes your heart ache in the best way. He’d make an amazing dad someday—wait, what? Where did that thought come from? You shake it off quickly, heat rising to your cheeks. You haven’t even sorted out your feelings, let alone—
“Come on, let’s move!” Steve says, cutting into your spiral.
The kids glance back at you, silently asking for reassurance. You chuckle and wave them forward. “What are you waiting for? A formal invitation? A little hustle, huh? I’ll be right behind you.”
As you move cautiously through the twisting tunnels, the air feels heavier with each step. Pods of various sizes cling to the walls and ceiling, pulsing faintly as if they’re alive. The eerie glow from within them illuminates the otherwise pitch-black space, casting strange shadows.
You notice Dustin stop to inspect one of the pods, his curiosity getting the better of him. A pang of concern hits you, so you linger behind, keeping an eye on him to ensure he doesn’t fall too far back from the group.
“Dustin, don’t—”
Before you can finish, the pod above him bursts, releasing a spray of viscous fluid. Dustin collapses to the ground, screaming in terror.
“Dustin!” you shout, rushing to his side as panic sets in. He’s coughing and gasping, clutching at his face.
The others quickly double back, finding you crouched beside a flailing Dustin. “It’s in my mouth! It’s in my mouth!” he chokes out, his voice frantic.
You grab his shoulders firmly and try to make him focus. “Hey! Dustin, look at me. You’re fine! It’s okay!” His mask is soaked, so you pull it down and shake him lightly to break through his panic. “Breathe, okay? Just breathe!”
Finally, his gasps slow, and his breathing steadies as he leans into you for comfort. “I thought I was gonna die,” he mutters dramatically, clutching your arm like a lifeline.
From behind, Steve’s flashlight beam lands on you both, his expression a mix of exasperation and mild jealousy.
“Alright, Romeo,” Steve cuts in, stepping closer with a mock-stern glare. “Hands off.” He uses his flashlight to nudge Dustin away from you, shaking his head as the boy reluctantly lets go.
Dustin groans, “Come on, man. I almost died!”
Steve rolls his eyes. “You’re fine. Let’s move.”
Finally, you venture into the hub that Mike was speaking of.
“Let’s drench it,” you say, your voice steady and determined.
Steve nods in agreement, hefting a can of fuel. “You heard her. Let’s get to work.”
The kids scatter, pouring the fuel across the floor and onto the vines, their expressions grim as they focus on the task. You work alongside Steve, each of you silently mirroring the other’s urgency.
“Careful not to miss a spot,” Steve says, glancing your way.
“Don’t worry. I’ve got this,” you reply, pouring fuel over a particularly thick vine.
Nearby, Dustin struggles with his fuel can, muttering under his breath. “Why are these things always heavier than they look?”
Steve smirks and steps over to help, taking the can from him with ease. “Here, let me. And don’t spill it on yourself, genius, unless you’re volunteering to go up in flames.”
Dustin scowls but doesn’t argue. “I wasn’t gonna spill it. I’m not a total moron.”
“Debatable,” Steve teases, ruffling Dustin’s hair before handing the can back.
You glance at the kids, ensuring they’re staying safe and focused. “Alright, guys, keep spreading it evenly. We’re almost done.”
Lucas passes you, carefully pouring his fuel along the edge of the tunnel. “What if this doesn’t work?” he asks, his voice wavering slightly.
You crouch beside him, squeezing his shoulder gently. “It’ll work. We’ve got this.”
Once the fuel is spread, everyone regroups in the center of the hub. The tension in the air is almost suffocating as you all take a moment to catch your breath. You pull the lighter from your pocket, flicking it open and closed as you exchange a glance with Steve.
“Ready to light these bastards up?” you ask, your voice laced with defiance.
Steve adjusts the bat slung over his shoulder and gives you a small nod. “Ready when you are.”
The kids tighten their makeshift masks, and you do one last check of the group. Dustin looks pale but determined, Mike is fidgeting nervously, and Max’s expression is set with fierce resolve.
“Alright,” Steve says, his voice steady as he looks at the kids. “Masks on, stay close, and whatever you do, don’t breathe this crap in. Let’s finish this.”
You flick the lighter, the small flame dancing in the dim, oppressive air. For a second, the world stills. Everyone holds their breath, watching as you crouch and lower the flame to the fuel-soaked ground.
The fire catches immediately, roaring to life and snaking outward like a living thing. It licks up the walls and races down the tendrils of vine, consuming everything in its path. The flames glow an angry orange-red, casting the tunnels in an eerie, hellish light.
A deafening screech echoes through the chamber as the vines react violently to the fire. The tendrils convulse, writhing and snapping like cornered animals. They whip against the walls and ceiling, sending dust and debris raining down around you.
“Move! Move back!” Steve shouts, grabbing your arm and pulling you a safe distance from the inferno.
The kids scramble, their faces a mix of awe and terror as they watch the fire spread rapidly, overtaking the entire hub.
“What the hell!” Dustin yells, ducking as a tendril slams into the wall near him.
“It’s working!” Mike exclaims, his voice tinged with equal parts fear and exhilaration.
The vines’ convulsions grow more frantic, their shrill screeches reverberating in your ears. They thrash wildly, almost as if they’re alive—and dying. One massive tentacle swings dangerously close, slamming into a cluster of pods and sending a burst of fluid and ash into the air.
“We need to get out of here!” Max shouts, tugging at Lucas, who is staring in horrified fascination at the destruction.
Steve steps in, gripping Lucas by the collar and pulling him back. “Yeah, no sightseeing! Let’s go!”
You cast one last look at the flames, the fire consuming the heart of the Upside Down’s hold on Hawkins. The once-terrifying tendrils are now nothing more than flailing, dying beasts. For a moment, there’s a flicker of hope.
But the ground shakes violently beneath your feet, and you realize this isn’t over.
“Run!” you shout, ushering the kids toward the exit.
Steve keeps pace beside you, glancing back over his shoulder to make sure everyone is moving. “You heard her! Don’t stop for anything!”
The flames roar louder, the tunnel filling with chaos as the Upside Down fights back. The group is moving quickly through the winding tunnels, the glow of the burning hub fading behind you.
“Keep up, guys!” You call out, your flashlight bouncing off the walls as you attempt to find the exit.
Suddenly, Mike stumbles over a root jutting from the ground and crashes to the floor. Before you can help him up, a slimy tendril shoots out from the wall, wrapping around his ankle and yanking him backward.
“Mike!” you shout, sprinting toward him.
The tendril tightens, dragging him closer to the pulsing wall. Mike’s panicked cries echo through the tunnel as he claws at the ground.
“Help me!”
You  dive for his arms, your hands gripping him tightly. “I’ve got you!”
Steve spins around at the commotion, his eyes widening. “Stay on him!” he yells, rushing forward with his bat.
The kids surround Mike, grabbing onto his arms and torso as the tendril pulls with unnerving strength.
“Hold him!” Steve growls, swinging his bat at the vine. His first hit barely leaves a mark. The tendril writhes, nearly yanking Mike out of your grasp.
“Steve, hurry!” you shout, your muscles burning as you fight to keep your grip.
Mike’s voice is strained with panic. “It’s pulling me in!”
Steve delivers another blow, this time severing the tendril with a sickening snap. The vine recoils, flailing wildly before retreating back into the wall. Mike collapses into your arms, trembling and gasping for breath. “You okay?” you ask, brushing the dust off his face and pulling him into a quick hug. “I think so,” he croaks, his wide eyes darting to the now lifeless tendril. Steve leans down, resting a hand on Mike’s shoulder. “Hey, you okay?”
Mike nods weakly.
“Good,” Steve says, his voice softer now, though he glances at you briefly, the tension in his face still evident. “Let’s move before that thing decides to grow back.”
You stand, helping Mike to his feet. As the group regroups, you catch Steve’s gaze. “You did good,” you murmur. “Yeah, well, keeping you guys alive isn’t easy,” he replies, smirking faintly before turning to lead the way again.
Then, a deep, guttural growl stops you in your tracks. Dustin freezes, wide-eyed. “That’s… not good.”
From the darkness ahead, a massive shape emerges, slinking into view with an unnerving fluidity. It’s Dart. The Demodog’s slick, reptilian skin gleams faintly in the dim light, and its jaws part to reveal rows of razor-sharp teeth. It lets out a shrill roar, the sound ricocheting off the walls.
“Of course it’s Dart!” Steve groans, shoving the kids behind him. “Why wouldn’t it be Dart?”
Dustin steps forward, desperation on his face. “Wait, wait! Maybe he remembers me! I can calm him down.”
Steve grabs his arm, pulling him back. “Yeah, no offense, but your little monster is definitely not in the mood for a reunion!”
Dart crouches low, muscles tensing, ready to pounce.
Uh, guys,” you say, your voice trembling as you slowly pull out the bat Steve handed you earlier. “We’re cornered.”
Dart takes a cautious step forward, sniffing the air. His dark, soulless eyes lock onto you, then shift to Steve, who raises his bat defensively.
“Stay behind me,” Steve orders, his voice low but firm.
“I’m not hiding while you get mauled!” you snap, gripping your weapon tighter.
“Guys!” Mike yells. “We don’t have time for this!”
Dustin tries again, his voice trembling. “Dart, buddy, it’s me! Remember the nougat?” He pulls a crumpled candy bar from his pocket and holds it out, his hand shaking.
For a moment, Dart pauses, sniffing the air again. He tilts his head, the faintest hint of recognition crossing his monstrous features.
“It’s working,” Dustin whispers, inching forward.
“Now, go!” Dustin orders. Steve grabs your arm and pulls you forward, motioning for the others to follow.
The group moves in a sprint, darting toward the exit, not daring to look back. Behind you, Dart is still distracted, munching on the nougat.
You push yourself harder, the adrenaline of escape keeping you going. “Almost there!” you call out, knowing Dart won’t stay distracted for long.
Finally, the light from the exit hits your eyes. As you and the group prepare to exit the tunnels, the ground begins to shake. The walls tremble, and the air vibrates with a low, ominous rumble. Dust falls from above, and a low, guttural growl echoes through the tunnel. The unmistakable sound of hundreds of Demodogs heading your way.
“They’re coming,” you whisper urgently, your heart racing. You turn to Steve, your mind spinning with the mounting pressure. “We need to get out of here, now.”
He’s already helping the kids climb up to the hole in the ceiling, pushing them toward safety as fast as possible. But when it’s your turn, the panic sets in.
“Your turn,” Steve urges, pointing at the hole, trying to push you towards it.
You shake your head, your expression firm but laced with concern. “No. You go first.”
“Y/N, we don’t have time for this!” He insists, the sound of the Demodogs’ claws scraping against the floor growing louder.
“Then I’m staying with you,” you say, your voice unwavering. 
Your pulse quickens as you feel the ground shake harder, the sound of the Demodogs’ approach growing closer with every passing second. “Y/N, please—just go! It’s not safe.”
“I’m not leaving you,” you say, your voice full of determination. “Not now. Not ever.”
You meet his gaze, your breath catching in your throat. The panic is consuming you both, but his steady presence is like a tether, anchoring you in the chaos. You can feel the weight of his promise, the silent pledge to protect you no matter the cost. You hesitate for a moment, but then something clicks inside you. You’ve been through too much together, and you’re not about to let fear make the decision for you. Steve looks at you, his expression softening, though the worry still lingers in his eyes. He nods, his grip on you tightening as he pulls you closer.
Suddenly, the ground shakes again, and you hear the unmistakable sound of claws scraping against the tunnel floor. The Demodogs are close—too close. But then, as if by some strange twist of fate, the creatures don’t come for you. Instead, they race past you, heading in the opposite direction, their growls growing fainter as they disappear down the tunnel. You freeze, your mind struggling to make sense of it. Why aren’t they attacking? Steve tightens his hold on you, his breath shaky as he pulls you into a tight hug.
“Are you okay?” His voice is a whisper, full of relief but still tinged with concern.
You nod, still trying to process what just happened. “Yeah.” He pulls back just enough to look at you, his face full of worry and something else—a deep, unspoken relief. He brushes a strand of hair from your face.
“Let’s get out of here,” he says softly, his voice low and steady, his hand still firmly holding yours.
You and the kids stumble out of the tunnels, breathless and bruised. The night sky feels cool against your skin, a sharp contrast to the heat and chaos of the tunnels. But there’s no time to rest—you’re all still on edge, still feeling the tremors of what you narrowly escaped.
The first thing you notice is the light. A blinding, intense beam from the car ahead, cutting through the night and casting everything in stark relief. It’s almost overwhelming, too bright to look at directly, but as you squint into the darkness, you realize it’s the lights from the car, but something else is happening.
The car’s headlights seem to grow brighter with every passing second, as though mirroring the strength of Eleven’s power, forcing the rift to shrink back into itself. The ground trembles beneath your feet once again, but this time, it feels like something is being retracted, something is ending.
“Is it… over?” Max breathes, almost in disbelief, her voice raw from the tension.
Finally, just as the light from the car reaches its peak, it suddenly begins to fade. The ground stills beneath your feet, the air grows quieter, and the frantic pulse of energy that had been surging through the night starts to die down.
“It’s done,” Dustin says softly, a mix of wonder and disbelief in his voice.
Mike nods slowly, “She really did it.”
You turn to Steve. His eyes meet yours, and you can see it in the way he looks at you—relief, exhaustion, and something else. The world is slowly righting itself, and for the first time, you feel the quiet after the storm settle in your bones.
“It’s over,” you whisper to him.
A soft smile tugs at his lips. “Yeah… it really is.”
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The next day, the sterile white walls of Hawkins National Lab feel like a cold reminder of everything that happened. Doctor Owens moves through the room with practiced ease, checking your vitals with a detached professionalism, while he hands you a stack of non-disclosure agreements to sign. You nod, eyes unfocused, your mind drifting in and out of the haze of the previous night.
As you sign the papers, you catch a glimpse of Steve across the hall, another doctor checking on him. Your eyes meet for the briefest of moments, an unspoken connection hanging in the air before you quickly look away, your heart sinking with the weight of unasked questions. Did he mean it? Was it the chaos of the night, the adrenaline of survival, that made him say what he did? Or was there more to it?
After the checkups, you find yourself outside the lab, the fresh air offering little relief from the turmoil inside your head. Steve’s there, waiting for you, his expression uncertain but soft. “Hey,” he says, his voice low. “You okay?”
For a split second, you want to reach out, to let him comfort you, to talk about everything that’s been weighing on you. But the doubts won’t let you. Not yet. You force a tight smile, shaking your head. “I’m fine. Can you just give me a ride home?”
Steve nods, but his face falls, disappointment flickering in his eyes. You can see it—the same uncertainty that’s been eating at you, mirrored in him. He doesn’t push, doesn’t try to make it better. You get into his car in silence, the tension between you palpable. The ride home feels endless, the space between you growing with each passing mile.
Steve’s thoughts swirl as he drives. He can’t help but wonder if it’s the fear of last night still lingering, or if something deeper is at play. Maybe you don’t believe him, or maybe you’re just scared to believe it’s real. Either way, the distance between you both hurts in a way he didn’t expect. He thought that after everything, after all the danger, you two would finally have a chance to be honest with each other. But now, all he can do is drive, silently aching for a chance to bridge the gap—if you’d only let him.
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Stranger Things 5 "Date Announcement" Teaser - Thoughts
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And so we finally have dates for the final season of Stranger Things: November 26th for Vol. 1, Christmas for Vol. 2 and New Year's Eve for the very last episode of Stranger Things, the Series Finale.
I'm very happy that they've opted for this release strategy as I don't think every show works with binge watching, just as they don't necessarily work with a weekly release. Arcane was able to find something that merged the two in some way with a weekly release during three weeks of three acts of three episodes, albeit it was build that way, some shows could experiment more with this type of release strategies. Some shows and seasons need a breathing moment so that the audience can pause and think about what they're watching and what they've just experienced... and also for the production to finish some VFX. XD
But anywho, let's get back to the teaser which gave us some interesting stuff at the beginning and after the montage of the story we have experienced so far.
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We open with a discussion between Joyce & Will, talking about and bringing us back to November 6th, 1983; the day Will dissapeared and ended up in the Upside Down.
This teaser is largely focused on these two but puts Joyce forward the most and it makes sense, Winona Ryder's Joyce was the main driving character during the first season. She was the one constantly pushing the story and other characters in finding Will, even when people thought she was crazy in doing so. And Winona Ryder was also a big selling point for the show as well. While she has remained active as a character, her own inner turmoils and issues as a person plus her role as a mother has taken quite the back seat in Season 3 for her relationship with Hopper, so I am glad we are getting back to this part of her character & story as I was afraid we were going to continue with the same patterns that we had in 3&4.
Her relationship with Will (& Jonathan) was the heart of the first two seasons and so seeing it be brought back makes me happy and I'm hoping they'll be able to stick the landing with that at least.
Will, remains an interesting case and he has gotten his posts and will get others, but we know he is essential in Season 5 and his coming-of-age arc will help wrap up the story in some capacity so it makes sense to put him forward but that said I am still shocked he gets to have such a significant part in the promo given how much his characters has been passive throughout the show & Joyce as well as they're not the characters Stranger Things has been using when it came to promos such as teasers. El, Hopper, Steve, Dustin or Nancy are usually the characters they are constantly pushing to market the show so it's like, in what dimension am I in ? Even if Will was the main driving factor in Season 1&2, he remained passive and he became like a sort of entity at some point. So good to see, he INDEED has more to do this time around but this time as an active character...
And since it's the final season, it makes sense to bring us back to the first season and the events that started it all, out of which is Will's dissapearance and if we read the summary that was given of ST5, in the story, it's anniversary is approaching and the title of episode 2 hints at new vanishings on the way. So it makes sense with an Upside Down stronger than ever that Joyce during that time period and probably people having already vanished that she would become even more worried for her children especially Will given what already happened. It's something that has been set-up for a long time now that Joyce suffers from a form of PTSD about Will's dissapearance and constantly thinks about it, this was one of the reasons why she wanted to leave Hawkins in Season 3 alongside Bob's death so her talking about it again makes quite a lot of sense & actually explores and continues storylines that were left behind.
And if we also follow what we've all already guessed for the past 4 seasons and what the characters have learned in Season 4, it's that the Upside Down targets people who are sensitive, insecurities, problems & traumas under the surface. That information could make Joyce realise that Will is hiding even more things to her and everyone else than he might be supposed to and that she might try to make him open about what he is suffering on the inside and have hearts-to-hearts about what happened ever since he was taken but also before.
The Byers's past ever since Season 1 has largely been unexplored, and for Will to be taken like Max, Chrissy, Billy, etc..., something traumatic, whatever that is that might have happened to him, that might be a good moment to start talking about it if we can't have flashbacks or certain characters coming back to explore both Will's and Joyce's own issues regarding everything that happened.
The next shot is, again, with Joyce which offers us Mama Bear realness, with her holding an axe facing a door in a barn, it seems, standing in front of what looks like Will, Robin, a boy that's above that we see later in another shot and I think Erica ? I'm not sure.
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Now this reminds me of something, whether it's inside Stranger Things itself or some sort of movie or story that must have a horror or action barn scenes but I can't put my mind on what. But I am curious on what they could be facing for Joyce to be standing in front of them and for her to go fight that thing because no disrespect Joyce but like apart from El, possibly Steve and Hopper with the right weapons, I really can't see anyone going toe to toe with something UD related at the moment. Now I can't complain, I've been waiting for other characters to go fighting mode so I'm happy but I hope we are showed they had some training or what they are fighting is possible for their abilities. And I hope Joyce is not the only fighter in that case, Will, Robin, if it's you that are in this shot, you need to get in there as well.
The next shot is of Karen holding Holly while looking at something terrified.
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Now I am not going to talk about the spoiler that's at play here for anyone that don't want to be spoiled like me but unfortunately I was about one particular thing about something here but I am curious about the veracity of what we are looking at in this shot but nice to see Karen & Holly possibly getting more involved in the story. 🙃
The next shot is of Lucas and Max in the hospital while she is still in a coma.
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Don't have much to say about these two at the moment, soon but not right now, but obviously we are going to explore Lucas's worry about but also care towards Max during her coma. I have no idea if she will be in that state all season or if she will wake up at some point, it's not the post for that but I believe it's either going to be in the 3-4 or 6 episode that she could wake up but that's for another post as I said.
The next shot is of Steve and Dustin in the Upside Down.
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They obviously had to sneak a shot of these two together in there because oh my god, this duo must bring the coins in! Now they're looking up at something but I don't know what to make of their expression, are they scared, confused or even pissed ? (Steve kinda looks like he is xD) I don't really have anything much anything to say about Steve as I think his character has been squeezed of any interesting storyline at this point, at least about himself, his presence and story heavily relies on others being there to continue and apart from reconnecting with Dustin to help him heal from his grief of Eddie and reinforcing their relationship after it being weakened by that same Eddie, I don't see much else about what they could explore with this duo.
Dustin seems to have been put through the wringer, beaten even, he might get into fights with people disrespecting Eddie, trying desperately to clear his name from the slander it's been put through since Season 4. I did see the image of him above Eddie's grave which has been vandalized, possibly this is connected to that. But we will talk about Dustin in another post, which I hope is soon.
Now the floor they're standing on is reminding me of something but I can't put my name on what. They're obviously in the UD so perhaps they're looking at the same thing, what looks like to be, El & Hopper are looking at or something else, like Demobats maybe, I genuinely have no idea in this shot.
AND NOW, for the trillion times in this show, a shot of El screaming. With Hopper beside her.
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Certain things never change, I wonder if Millie Bobby Brown has ever hurt a throat because of it before and had to take some syrup to heal. That aside, they seem to be in a facility, the lab ? Or a new lab perhaps ? I'm sure there will be more Vecna in her storyline but perhaps she indeed might face more of the military than I initially thought, for Hopper it was obvious but for her I was not sure, as I thought she would be more focused on Max and the UD but perhaps she might get more involved in what the army is doing rather than trying to stay out of it's sight.
Now the reason for why she's screaming, big final monster reveal perhaps ? The gates go all insane at it seems to be shaking where they're at ? Vecna going psychic meanie on her ? The choices are endless when she screams with a bloody nose in this series. I hope she kicks some ass though.
Nice to see that Hopper is going to spend some of his time with El as a fighting duo and trusting her as a partner as it completes the arc they've had throughout the seasons as their father-daughter relatiobship. Can get more into him as he gets his part in a bigger post that AGAIN, I hope will be soon.
The next shot is an interesting one.
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It's, what looks like to be, El and Hopper in front of a wall like structure made of fleshy vines in the UD with what looks like to be some pods in it.
Now there are many possibilities to what this thing could be:
- The limit of the UD we know of, this Hawkins version at least.
We've never seen the UD in another form, outside of the Dimensions X one, that isn't Hawkins. Maybe this is it, this is the limit, either there's nothing after or Dimension X exist past that point. There could be a Truman Show feel to all of it where when you go through it, you enter the original version of the UD.
In fact, when I look at it, it almost looks like... a curtain. Ding ding ding, that's for my fellow theorists out here, a visual metaphor of something being hidden behind. Dimension X or something else ? Who knows.
- The Monster Factory.
Where creatures such as the Demogorgon or demobats are made and perhaps where they are building the new horrors that the characters will face this season such as the teased giant monster that could be the Thessalhydra but we don't know that yet but it seem obvious and we also kinda want it, hurm hurm! We could perhaps learn what those eggs in the UD were back in Season 1 that the Demogorgon was eating as those egg like pods in there remind me of them a bit. (It also kinda reminds me of those pods and building they put humans in, in The Matrix movies, another parralel!)
- Camazotz, whatever that might be. Discussed the possibilities of what it could be in episode titles reveal most, go check it out.
- A fortress for Vecna maybe, some sort of new UD stronghold where he protects himself and heals safely but also builds his plans and army.
There's probably other possibilities but I don't see them at the moment so let's move on.
And now, we get one shot of Mike protecting other kids + plus Joyce and Will who seems to have passed out apparently.
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Now in the barn shot, I talked about how above Joyce there was a boy that seemed to be in another shot we would talk about later and that kid is the same kid we see there. Who he is and who the other kids are, I have no idea, at least none that would spoil anyone. They don't seem to be Erica's friends so I have a feeling that for a nice parallel to the first season, this group of kids will parallel Mike, Lucas & Dustin who were looking for Will.
Do I know something that leads me to that conclusion ? Yes but I won't spoil anyone that don't want to be.
And Mike protecting other people, well that's a usual to me but I understand that after five seasons especially seeing so grown now, it surprised people but it's a welcome one. He does seem to be wet so did he go underwater or did he show up from the UD, no idea really, could be either.
Now Will and Joyce being there, damn, they really are taking center stage. But Will is exhausted so either he's been put through the wringer or my boy got new powers/abilities under his belt now which could explain his exhaustion.
There's also a soldier laying down there next to them, unconscious or dead, probably dead. Taken by whatever insane thing they're facing.
Which might be connected to the next shot, of something that REALLY wants to come out of the UD, whatever that might be, probably the new large threat that's been teases in ST4 and that I've been excited about since you've begun this post where I can't stop talking about it. In the second shot, someone is lying on the ground, is that Will ? Is that part of the same moment as the previous shot ? Could be since he is exhausted in the same shot, I mean he doesn't have to be exhausted just one time, exhaust him through the season, more meat for me!
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Wherever they are, it seems to be at a checkpoint/military base in Downtown Hawkins given some of the building we see in those shots. They seem to have put some sort of floor over the Giant Gate to perhaps hide and block whatever that's in the UD from coming out of it. It'll fail obviously but how did Will & co get there given how many soldiers they are, I genuinely have no idea. Are they maybe helped by someone on the inside ? Can't be Owen given the situation he's been left in in Season 4 and he might become more of a problem to the army than anything else.
Also it seems, so... red ? Did they like do something to the gates or whatever's coming out of there glowing 😆 ? That would be a bit ridiculous for my Kaijū to glow like that, YES I WANT A KAIJŪ! I can't aim for a Godzilla-sized one though that would be sickening but I want a BIIIIIIIG monster.
And next we have RUN RUUUUUUUN!
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Well, Noah Streep has come back to us at last, NOW I will say, though I love a scream and I love Noah as an actor, slight overacting slight. I know, I KNOW, I can't complain, he's back in the spotlight but I'm picky, I want close to perfection.
Now, it doesn't seem to be the same place as where they are in the previous two shots and trailers lie so this could be something different than big KAIJŪ reveal but for him to scream like that, it has to be scary. But what that also tells me is that Will, this season is facing the danger head on or is being face with it most of the time. Is he intentionally putting himself in harm's way or has he become the main target yet again ? I personally think it's both but the season will only make it clear towards the end of it. And that's for another post, which AGAIN, I hope will be soon.
Let's hope Noah just like Millie didn't get bad throat hurts from this.
Overall, pretty interesting teaser and interesting elements to start promoting this season with, one that did I not expect myself. Season 5 looks promising in certain aspects Let's hope they continue on that path.
Now, back onto me going into my cave to finally finish all those posts I have to but given my speed, it'll probably when I'm 57 when ST5 has finally been released for a long time now and everyone has moved on as well, Tumblr is down forever and Trump's great-grandson is president (please universe, don't manifest this) plus Beyoncé has still not released her visuals for RENAISSANCE but alas, that's on me.
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The Crux
a djo x gn!reader and analysis of the album, 'The Crux'. sharing some personal dynamics/headcanons that i've had since 2018-2019 that have been further developed by this new album. welcome to one of my maladaptive daydreams written down. (2k words)
a/n: i am new to tumblr and putting my writing out there in general. i would appreciate constructive criticism!
tw: ed mention! no glorifying!
There was truly no one that Joseph Keery was more grateful for than his four sisters. They made him the brother and the man he was. It was all his eldest sister, Caroline’s doing that he even had the life he had. Without her encouragement and insistence, who knows what he would be doing? He knew that whatever he did or wherever he was, he could lean on his sisters and they knew they could lean on him.
Joe had been graced with (Y/N) Depp's presence for what seemed like forever. They had been working on Stranger Things with him since season one as Skylar Hopper, the daring child of Jim Hopper who was left to pick up the pieces after their younger sister died and mother left. They played a compelling and well developed character.
(Y/N) was- to put it lightly- a nepo baby. They were the singular love child of Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder's four year long relationship, and Stranger Things was their way out of the modeling world and into the acting one.
Joe had a little casual thing with (Y/N) during season one, but it turned out that they knew what they wanted with their life a little more than he did at the time. It had always confused him because they were two years younger than him and they had it all figured out. And if we're being completely honest, Joe was scared out of his own head at the prospect of spending a lifetime with (Y/N). Not in the way that he would be disgusted to do so, but quite the opposite. He would just always wonder if he was good enough, and if he was just ostracizing himself with his thoughts.
They ended up not even dating since they wanted different things, but something in Joe knew that this wonderful person with the biggest heart was going to mean something. Right person, wrong time was the feeling he got in his chest. He remembered the last romantic conversation he had with (Y/N). He was telling them that he was going to be dating Maika, who he had introduced to them at one point. He said, 'our connection is real, and I live for the rush. Will you give it back? Your heart, you give it back? I have a steady hand, not control. Let this be what it is, but you're confident and real and intense and I'm just worried there's a catch. I feel too immature to be a substantial part in this relationship right now, like we're on the same island yet can't see each other.' and (Y/N) said something that he would always carry with him. They said, 'You're not immature. You just need to experience and grow.'
Joe's relationship with Maika Monroe hadn't exactly been the most pleasant. She had been his off and on girlfriend from 2017-2021, breaking up permanently a year before their movie, After Everything came out and the premiere being their last public appearance together. With her being a model, he was often watching out for the common symptoms of disordered eating. He cried about it, worried, and approached the topic as gently as he could, but her disastrous habits eventually sucked the light from both of them. His bad habit of being a sucker for looks got him in more stupid situations like this than it probably should have. She was so scared of being basic that she became boring. The same outfit format with different clothing pieces, the same vocal fry. It was just... blah. She didn't seem to understand that he didn't care about the money or the fame either, along with the fact that he didn't even consider a life for himself where being famous was the greatest accomplishment. As their relationship progressed, he found himself aching for something real and meaningful where he could grow some roots, and Maika still had absolutely no interest in marriage or children or anything super permanent. She actually abruptly broke up with him after he started mentioning the future. In his mind, he was already checked out of the relationship and he wasn't honestly sure if she ever checked in. He was honestly much more worried about making a name for himself and filling his list of accomplishments, not his Instagram feed like his partner at the time.
More often than not, Joe was jet-lagged and exhausted from whatever flight he took more than likely that day or the day before. It was honestly quite difficult to manage his personal life with work, but it was his passion and he had to do it for himself. The monotony of the societal norms that came along with being apart of Hollywood ate at Joe everyday. Societal norms and the workload of a booked actor and musician? God, he often found himself sitting in Charlie Heaton's garden for longer than he probably should have because as he grew as an individual, little things and moments seemed to be more important than loading his day with work when he just didn't want to do it.
He had changed the pace of his life a bit and moved to New York. He remembered seeing his old Los Angeles apart and noticing that it wasn't in the best shape. The nostalgia was almost painful as he recalled all the routines and memories associated with this place. In a way, he was still glad the apartment had changed. It meant he had too. But in a way… the old memories dragged him in again. Hs reminisced as he drove around the block, almost going back to the days he had spent with Maika in that apartment… It wasn't long before he was in her own New York apartment that would become their home together again for awhile. He would go see her parents and sleep with her in her childhood bed, and they would both team up with Charlie and take the kids for drives with loud music and lots of laughs. He found himself getting back with her again and again because of how easy it was to sink into her. She didn't expect anything from him, just for him to show up. Sometimes that was nice, honestly. It was easy, for sure. Some days it felt like nothing could even compete with Maika and what she offered. He could have held out hope for their future and tore his heart apart doing it, but he had to recognize that they weren’t young anymore and life was starting to be about creating something for himself and not just something easy.
And grow he did. Joe was in a different place when he was around (Y/N) for the first time after being single. He suddenly understood. They had been one of his best friends ever since they stopped being casual. I mean, they worked together on-site and lived a few blocks from each other, so they were always together or at least close by.
Things progressed between Joe and (Y/N) slowly at first, both of them beginning to acknowledge the connection on a deeper level. Then he noticed the fact that when they won their first award at an award's show, they spent the time that they should have been giving a speech hugging different people and saying hello as they walked down the aisle, personally thanking as many as they could. He noticed the motivational quote sticky notes stuck around his apartment along with other ones with lines he couldn't seem to remember. He kept on noticing things, more and more until he was completely infatuated. When he looked at (Y/N), he didn't have to even question what his future would entail. There were a million things he loved about them, but the thing that he truly fell in love with was that adorable gap tooth smile and the little nose scrunch they did when they grinned. He had their cat, Lovebug, absolutely charmed too even though he usually only lived up to his name with (Y/N). At first, it was just him, (Y/N), and Lovebug. Joe made the mistake of taking her to the animal shelter and they left with an orange kitten. He knew that's what his future was… the way they cradled the new kitten and nurtured it just as they did with their cat at home. He was always so goddamn proud of them. He had a million pictures of them across the apartment they shared, in his wallet, and on his phone. Now he just had to find a way to say, ‘let’s last awhile’. They were the number one before anyone else, and they could have a million cats or kids or whatever they wanted.
(Y/N) may have been a nepo baby, but they lived a childhood as far out of the spotlight as they could, mostly at their mother's request. They spent one semester of school each year at each of her parents' and the summer with their maternal uncle out in California. Joe had never really had a good impression of nepo babies because of how they were portrayed in the media, but he was introduced not only to (Y/N) but also Maya Hawke and his opinion flipped in a way. However, he didn't want all the glitz and glam in his relationship, and found himself silently pleased with (Y/N)'s homebody tendencies when they weren't working or attending social events for work. Even though their schedules had been a bit flip-flopped lately, he found himself waiting to get home from the studio every night simply to see the warm light that always flowed out of the hallway when he had to work late.
29 was their lucky number. It was the day of the month that he proposed, they had been dating for 29 months when he did so, been to 29 different countries together, and it was also how many times he called them his killer queen. It was love, plain and simple. He had to count his blessings with this one.
It didn't matter how cruel the world had been or who he had lost, he still trusted love and he found that trust in (Y/N). All he wanted to do was be someone who they could be proud to be with. Everything he did was all for them. It didn't matter what life took from him now because he would always do it all for them. With their nepotism, he felt he had to live up to the standards of everyone in their family in order to be worthy to be a part of it. They made everyday better and that made all of the effort more than worth it. He didn't know how he was supposed to repay them for knowing him like they did, supporting him no matter what, and making sure he got through the hard times.
Their wedding was a small ceremony followed by a reception at a beautiful venue in New England. He had proposed about eight months prior and had spent a lot of time thinking of what the perfect gift to give them would be. He ended up writing ‘The Crux’ for (Y/N) based on old journal entries- an ode to the long-winded journey of their romance and the winding roads and awkward moments that eventually lead them to marriage- he had written with their encouragement to deal with the onset of fame, and using some of his connections to get a custom made piano for him to play ‘Golden Line’ for them at their reception for the first time. And as he looked at the stunning person next to him as he laid himself out barren in the song, he remembered the negative or conflicted things he had written about them at one point and gladly pushed it all aside as he focused on the past, present, and the future in front of it without trying to focus on the crux since this seemed too good to be true.
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tfyoulookingatgiuxs · 1 month ago
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Last night there was Netflix's Tudum and with it also the teaser trailer for Stranger Things 5. Today we will analyze it, we will see the details and statements of the Duffer Brothers regarding the news of this last season.
In this teaser trailer we don't see much of the fifth season, but we have enough to keep us in suspense and to do our analysis.
Let's start with the release dates. Before this trailer, many fans had speculated that the fifth season could be split into two parts like the fourth season. However, we were all surprised when we found out that it will be split into three parts.
-Volume 1: November 26
-Volume 2: December 25 (Christmas)
-The Finale: New Year's Eve (December 31)
All we know about the episodes are the titles:
-Episode 1: The Crawl
-Episode 2: The Vanishing of ***** Wheeler (Probably Holly)
-Episode 3: The Turnbow Trap
-Episode 4: Sorcerer
-Episode 5: Shock Jock
-Episode 6: Escape from Camazotz
-Episode 7: The Bridge
-Episode 8: The Rightside up
The last two episodes in particular, according to an interview with Maya Hawke (actress who plays Robin Buckley) who said that the episodes are long and that "it will be like watching more than one movie together". These are the words of the actress regarding the last season. Many of the actors of Stranger Things have spent words regarding the last season, such as David Horbour (actor of Jim Hopper) where he emphasizes that the fifth season will be the last and final one. Or like Finn Wolfhard (actor of Mike Wheeler) who said that he read the finale of the fifth season and how he would have preferred that in the last episode of the season there was a definitive ending for each character. Specifying in Lord of the Rings style. Another interesting statement is made by Ross Duffer himself. And we read it on the new web page after Netflix's Tudum. This web page was shared on the Duffer Brothers' Instagram account where we can find interesting news about the Fifth season.
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This leaves Stranger Things fans further curious about the ending. But most of all about the whole season, and what makes it different from previous seasons. On this Tudum Netflix site, we can also find the synopsis of the fifth season:
“The fall of 1987. Hawkins is scarred by the opening of the Rifts, and our heroes are united by a single goal: find and kill Vecna. But he has vanished — his whereabouts and plans unknown. Complicating their mission, the government has placed the town under military quarantine and intensified its hunt for Eleven, forcing her back into hiding. As the anniversary of Will’s disappearance approaches, so does a heavy, familiar dread. The final battle is looming — and with it, a darkness more powerful and more deadly than anything they’ve faced before. To end this nightmare, they’ll need everyone — the full party — standing together, one last time.”
We can already see something here. It's been a year since the events of season 4, and previously some fans speculated that season 5 was actually set in 1988, which is two years later. We also have confirmation that Will will be very important in this season, and it's very possible that maybe Will will die in this season, but we don't have confirmation of that yet, but they are hunches.
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Another interesting thing! Some time ago, some behind-the-scenes footage from Stranger Things was released. In these images, some very confusing, fans were able to identify an audio track, where a voice said "Steve, you have to run. RUN!" Some thought it was Dustin, or even Mike, but thanks to the Trailer we have confirmation that it was actually Will Byers screaming. Steve is probably in danger and via a Walkie Talkie or a radio transmitter, Will warns Steve to run and get to safety.
We also know that there will be new characters in season 5, such as Nancy and Mike's little sister: Holly. And what about those who can probably be her friends? We only know that they will be present and of course I would be curious to know what role they will have in this season.
This is the list of the Actors of Stranger Things 5:
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If you notice, we have the names of the new actors and their names in the series.
Another thing I would like to talk about is how ALL the characters will come together and interact. Like Robin and Joyce, seen in one frame as Joyce holds an axe ready to defend Will and Robin.
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Or how Mike defends the whole group while Joyce holds the injured Will.
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The return of 008 (Kali) in season five.
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Or a sad thing, is how Lucas still goes to visit Max in the hospital. However, we notice that Max no longer has casts on his previously broken arms or legs. A sign that Max is recovering and that perhaps he could help the others during the mission.
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I would also like to point out how heartbreaking it was when Will said "We failed" and they show Max and Eddie, characters who died (except for Max in a coma) in season 4. This reduces the chances of Eddie coming back to life, so we can only hope to see him again in some flashback.
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One last thing we know, which in my opinion is fundamental, is the flyer of Jane Hopper (Eleven) declaring her disappearance. Reading the synopsis we know that Eleven is wanted by the government who thinks she is the cause of all this, so we do not know if Eleven is dead or hidden as in the second season. This image was shared on the official website of stranger things, specifically on their instagram account:
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And that's all we know about Stranger Things season 5. Let me know if I forgot anything and tell me your theories, if anything new comes out I'll be sure to update you!
-SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!!
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A little Greatwise fanfic I wrote :)
It plays out after season 4 and Eddie lives ofc. I recently discovered this ship, and have fallen in complete love with it. We all need a bit of love in our hearts and I can contribute, I will.
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After Vecnas death, Will and the rest of the Byers-Hopper family moved back to Hawkins. Learning that Mike and the rest had joined another party when they were back in California didn’t sit right with Will. He knew it was stupid, they had defeated an other-worldly monster together, feeling betrayed over something like that was ridiculous. Yet, he still did. 
All those feelings faded into the shadows when Dustin finally dragged him to one of their campaigns though. 
It was amazing. Eddie was one of the best DM’s they had ever had (no offense Mike). He made the story feel alive and exciting in a way no one else could. And Gareth. Will had been approached by him during one of the breaks in between the roleplaying. He had suggested that their characters were linked together in a mystical and magical way. Will loved the idea of the connection and told Gareth just that. The older boy had asked if he was free that following night and could come to his place to work on their background together.  
Which Will could. 
The evening had quickly turned into laughter and fooling around though. The background thing they were supposed to be working on only took an hour, and they just hung out the rest of the time. They both just “clicked” perfectly, like two puzzle pieces. Understanding each other on another level, as if they had been best friends for decades. 
Because they always had a wonderful time with each other, they began to frequently hang out. Leaving Will with a lovely feeling in his gut every single time. Making a new friend, he had told himself. That’s why I feel complete and happy around him, was also an “explanation.” Those explanations worked for three days before Will couldn’t deny it anymore. He was head-over-heels in love with Gareth, and it was going to be his demise. He may have had some shit thrown at him in the past, but he at least had Gareth now. Friend or not. 
They had been friends for a few weeks now, and Will was sitting on the floor resting his head on the side of the bed. He was humming a song Gareth had shown him earlier from the band Nirvana. Gareth had gone to the bathroom a while earlier, and Will wasn’t surprised when Gareth entered the room and closed the door. He was, however, confused as to why Gareth was standing with his back to the door. Will could see him out of the corner of his eye but broke his gaze into space to get a better look at what Gareth was doing. The older boy was chewing on the inside of his cheek before taking a deep breath and meeting Will’s eyes. 
“We gotta talk.” Gareth said with an expression Will couldn’t quite read. 
“What about?” Will responded. 
“I have to tell you something.” The older boy said as a response. 
Will’s mind was already racing. A, “I have to tell you something.” was never a good thing to hear. He was expecting something horrible. Something that would leave him feeling empty and sad. But nothing could prepare him from the words that came next. 
“I... Uhh, fuck it,”  
“I like you Will.” “Like a lot.” Gareth said. 
When the words reached Will’s ears, he was stunned. Gareth liked him. Amazing, awesome, beautiful Gareth liked him. In that moment Will felt on top of the world. He wanted to respond but the words just got stuck in his throat, so he just showed Gareth instead. 
He stood from the floor and walked up to him. He cupped Gareth’s cheeks in his hands and connected their lips in a slow gentle kiss.  
He pulled away a few seconds later, but they kept their faces close to each other. 
“I really like you as well.” Will told the older boy. 
“Really?” he asked, as if not daring to believe it. 
“Really." Will confirmed. 
At those words, Gareth put his arms around Will’s shoulders and pulled him closer. The second kiss was more intense, filled with desire and love. Will’s right hand fell to Gareth’s waist, and his left to the side of his neck.  He felt Gareth’s tongue swiping on his lower lip, asking for permission. Will happily parted his lips, giving the older boy access. When their tongues touched, Will thought he was going to faint. 
When they eventually parted to catch their breath, Will was on cloud nine. He had just kissed Gareth, no, he made out with him.  
Before Will had time to overthink or believe he was dreaming. Gareth dragged him to the bed to make out some more. 
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Madwheeler and Super-El: Max and Mike's perspectives on El as the (super)hero
working on another post pondering El's role as "the hero" vs the way the show really doesn't support that concept, and places huge importance on teamwork instead.
the hero is usually the strong/capable one expected to take all the risks and save the day, and other characters feel free to throw them at danger without fearing too much for their safety, especially if they also have powers. but when the hero is a little girl, that's harder.
so today I'm chewing on how El is viewed in that light by the two people closest to her - both of whom are prone to contextualizing her powers through a fantasy lens.
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so, here comes one of my favorite El-Max topics, but also one where I've shortchanged Mike in the past. I need to revise some of the old stuff I've said about Bad Guy Mike identifying El as a superhero vs Good Guy Max identifying El as just a girl with superpowers. that was a pretty superficial read on both ends.
(I'm sure the Mike parts will be kindergarten review for his fans/analysts, but I don't usually pay him much attention; this is aimed more at the Mike-hater/ignorer elmax crowd I spawned from)
this is a long ramble, but a fun one I think!
let's start with Max.
for her, El begins as a mythological figure. she doesn't believe she exists as described by Lucas. but then El proves her existence via a very badass entrance, and it only supports Max's idea of her as some kind of invincible, superhero-esque figure.
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Max scoffs at the idea of El needing Hopper's protection at the lab. actually, El does need it, bigtime! closing the gate takes all her focus, and without Hopper there to fend off demodog attacks, she probably couldn't have done it.
Max doesn't see that, though, and presumably spends little or no time around El between seasons, so her first impression goes unchallenged for almost a year.
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we find s3 Max locked in HARD in her faith in El as the hero who can solo the baddie, take care of herself, and save everyone else. she seems to picture that having superpowers means El has nothing to fear.
the sauna is the first time Max actually sees El fight, and it doesn't go how she expects
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El fights Billy, but gets overpowered at one point. everybody's stunned: this is the first time any of the party has ever seen El not decisively win a fight, so "uhhh... should we do something?" doesn't kick in instantly. Max and the others watch as El gets choked purple. only Mike intervenes to save her life and give her a moment to regain control of the fight.
"like she needs protection" and "you have super powers! what's the worst that could happen?" age like milk here. this is when Max sees that El is not invincible and needs help. lesson learned!
... ehh well.. actually what happens is, Max doubles down on her solo-hero-El stance after this and has a bigtime attitude about it.
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and, okay, I'm ready to admit that Max's overconfidence towards El's abilities leads to her treating El more like she's a superhero than Mike does during this era. not her intent, but, what's said is said. (I'll get into it, bear with me)
when Mike worries about El endangering herself, Max accuses him of not respecting El's right to make her own choices. when Lucas suggests killing the MF with fireworks, she eyerolls him for thinking any non-El approach could be of value.
nobody was 100% right or wrong, but I see Max having the most crow to eat after all this. Mike was right to worry about El's limits and fear for brain damage: she loses her powers entirely (in the sense that this is later likened to the brain-scrambling of a stroke, can it not be said that El did take brain damage from the MF? not exactly how Mike meant it, but?). and Lucas is no dummy for the fireworks idea: it's all that stops El from getting flayed at one point.
El still helps save the day in s3, but as the big powerful solo hero? nah. least of any season. Max's repeated bets on her powers lose.
so why did watching El almost die in the sauna seem to have no effect on Max's perception of her? why does she still assert that El alone will kick all the flayed butts in 3x6, after she needed some nerd's help kicking (1) flayed butt in 3x4?
there is a visible effect! just not the one you expect right away.
mid-3 is Max's guilt and denial era
3 is when all the issues are coalescing that leave Max depressed in 4: she wished for something terrible to happen to Billy, and now it is, so it feels like it's her fault. she's not ready to cope with the guilt that comes from that, or any of the other dominos that are falling as a result.
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"I just stood there and watched" is textually about Billy and the flesh monster. but if Max feels guilt for inaction, she would have similar feelings about El in the sauna, where she also took no action.
Max specified that her inaction with Billy wasn't because she was scared or weak, but because she didn't know if he deserved to be saved. It being a decision not to act is why she feels so terrible about it. I see no reason to think it was radically different in the sauna: I could completely buy that she somewhat chose not to act because she didn't think El needed to be saved.
I don't think either are cases of Max blaming herself for an uncontrollable freeze response, because we see multiple illustrations of her not having that response, whether it's herself or others in danger.
post-sauna, Max has plainly seen that El did need protection, and is struggling with the fact that she didn't provide any. the bathroom scene is when her guilt is the clearest, imo.
watch how she gets lost in the sight of El's bruises and stops what she's doing, and the way she asks if it hurts. you can imagine her logic in feeling like those bruises are her fault: both for "causing" the greater situation and for not making a move to help.
but what's really telling is the abrupt change of subject and tone from "are you in pain?" to "lol that Mike's a yapper amirite?". she has a lot of nerve putting Mike down after he's the one who just saved El's ass, right? but that's exactly why she does it. this is 14 year old coping with heavy feelings in an immature manner, as they'll do.
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choosing Mike isn't just a random "lol madwheeler worsties" attempt to cheer El up. it's an attempt to bury her shame at her own inaction compared to his action in the sauna. by getting a laugh out of El at Mike's expense and shifting the theme of the scene towards making fun of the boys, she's steering into waters that reflect more favorably on herself, and her bond with El, than him/his.
so I think that's one big reason Max is doubling down on her confidence in El in mid-3: to absolve her guilt. she's trying to convince herself that El really CAN take care of herself despite what she saw. because if El is superheroically powerful, Max has nothing to feel guilty about (and in fact, is El's only good, supportive friend for having faith in her!)
season 3's war of the sexes
here's another reason I think Max doubles down. she has some male-specific trust issues at play behind the scenes in this season that have been messing up her relationship. as a result of El coming to her for advice, Max's private personal trauma-foibles get projected out into this "stupid boys" war of the sexes that clogs up most of the party's season.
why do I bring up trust issues? because Max does. her framing in the cabin argument is pretty bullshit: she spins Mike's concern for El's wellbeing into an issue of trust. which is a kinda odd word for the situation, especially considering it does not play to her advantage.
look at her regret that she let that word escape containment lmao:
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Max thinks boyfriends can't be trusted, so it follows that girlfriends should always be trusted - and "trust" here means "trust El to save the day without killing herself". even though I trust it's been explained to her that that's classic El behavior.
she presents her case to Nancy and Jonathan, but a fair trial for Mike goes out the window when only Nancy weighs in. yep, the Nancy who's fresh off her own war with Jonathan about workplace misogyny and how he should've trusted her about the rat story. so Nancy's ruling (while none of it is wrong) has a heavy bias in the same direction as Max's, and totally glosses over the valid aspects of what Mike's saying. lmao at the way Jon mutes himself for this discussion. she's never wrong, son.
El's agency and ability prevail as the only real issues among the loudest voices in the room - neither of whom share the trauma of already having witnessed El exercise both to sacrifice herself.
oh, but then look what happens as soon as El starts losing another fight:
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at least some of that was denial, because it ends abruptly right here. Max doesn't need it anymore, because she has something way better: another chance.
I think if the sauna truly hadn't changed Max's mind about El, then Max would've done the same thing here (stood and watched). but she doesn't. this time when El gets overpowered fighting the flesh monster and almost gets yoinked, Max jumps in to help pull her back.
(this is how we can be sure Max's inaction with Billy and the FM wasn't merely a freeze response. "I imagine myself running to you, pulling you away" - they showed her able and willing to do exactly that for El)
this is a huge step. but still, the anti-Lucas-fireworks stuff happens even after this. (she's a work in progress, okay?)
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in fairness, El's powers are the more effective approach. she still has them here, and nobody foresees her losing them over a leg injury. if all had gone as expected, El would've probably done the heavy lifting in another FM fight at the mall. Max doesn't have to be so dismissive of conventional backup plans, but she's not wrong-wrong about this particular one, either: fireworks don't kill the FM. they're an invaluable distraction, yes, but not fatal.
by this point, Max understands now that El needs help/protection even though she has powers, but still places her faith in those powers above all else to handle the supernatural fighting. which I'd call a fairly reasonable, if sucks-to-be-El assessment.
more progress is made when El loses her powers:
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this little piece of action is sooooo tasty as a bookend to the sauna scene.
this time, Max doesn't wait to see how the fight goes and then jump in for backup if needed. she takes the defensive lead this time, stepping out in front. none of these three have the physical strength to beat Billy, so she figures that as Billy's stepsister, the responsibility falls to her to try to stop him a different way. doesn't work even a little bit, but, credit for the effort to defend. (Mike too, full credit for trying)
s4 Max on El's power loss
we don't know of anything Max ever said TO El regarding her power loss. but during her curse era in season 4 she's still out there wishing for El to get her powers back.
this line was a rock in my shoe for awhile because I thought Max should've grown past the solo-hero-El mindset after s3. I wish the burden wasn't always on El, and I'd like to see Max express that too, and spend more time helping think of conventional solutions instead of just relying on El's powers to save the day.
but actually I just misinterpreted the line.
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she doesn't say this during the discussion about how they're gonna stop Vecna. this is specifically in reply to Nancy pointing out that they need to find a way into the UD in order to do that. so Max isn't saying she wishes El would come kill Vecna / rescue her / save the day, she's just saying she wishes El could poke a hole into the UD for them so they can do it. opening a portal is the part the kids really can't do on their own. shooting/stabbing a guy, sure.
once a gate presents itself, Max never wishes for El's help again. she volunteers as bait while the others kill Vecna, which is an entirely conventional solution.
so, this still fits a general trend away from regarding El as a solo/super hero. as always, Max looks to El for the stuff that can only be accomplished with superpowers; what's really changing is that her perception of "things that can be accomplished without superpowers" is expanding. s3 to s4 shows an enormous decrease in her reliance on El for supernatural battle.
ooh but the final step (so far) is my favorite
Max really no longer expects El to solo, even when she shows up with powers and gives explicit instructions to let her solo. ("stay back" -> so, "just stand there and watch"? mm tasty)
Max does listen, initially, but when things go south, she tries to stab Vecna in El's defense (or more realistically, tries to distract him for a second).
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the interesting piece of character growth here is not that Max tries to protect El even though El has powers. that's not new.
it's the implications of Max growing past volunteering her protection unasked, all the way to insisting on protecting El even after she said not to.
a very interesting choice from little miss trust-El-who's-saved-the-world-twice.
[Regina George voice:] so you agree? it is possible for El to overestimate her own limits? and her decisions should sometimes be challenged or overridden for her own protection?
like. Max and Mike are the only ones El has ever "stay back"ed. I mean, she's fought for everybody, but they're the only two people she's ever explicitly, individually, fought instead of. are we seeing it?
are we seeing how Mike's feelings in that s3 argument had a lot to do with watching El fight the demogorgon after keeping him back for his own protection - and that the instant Max has the vaguely-equivalent experience of watching El fight Vecna after keeping her back for her own protection, her actions get a bit more Mikey?
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where will this go in s5?
unless we get an amnesia plot, s5 Max ought to have a specific brand of El-loss trauma very similar to Mike's, considering she most likely died thinking El had already been killed trying to protect her. (I'm 100% sure she never saw and 90% sure she never heard El in the mind lair with her so it probably looked like she was dead or at very least "gone")
seems very safe to say s5 will require El to endanger herself in order to save Max, and I'm very eager to see how this arc plays out in terms of Max's reaction to that (will we get a scene where Max actually tries to dissuade her?) and whether we'll get any kind of madwheeler handshake type moment about that.
I'm not saying Max and Mike will or should reach equilibrium in the end, but I am enjoying that they've both ended up sliding towards the middle ground since their argument. Mike has learned to better respect El's agency and independence, and now Max has learned that sometimes she too prioritizes El's safety.
so! Max starts out all starry-eyed over El, thinking superpowers are the solution to everything, only to become more and more inclined to help and protect the girl she originally thought of as a superhero. can't tell you how much I love this progression.
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now let's talk about Mike
unlike Max, Mike never expected El to be invincible or save the day all on her own. it might have a lot to do with first impressions (which looks like she needs taking care of: the rainsoaked nonverbal child lost in the woods, or the MTV punk who just hurled a monster through the window?)
Mike does encourage El to use her powers to find Will (after she volunteers her ability and willingness), but just the void-searching, screwing-with-electronics type stuff. he never encourages her towards telekinetic battle; she does all that unasked. he never expects her to fight for them in any way that seems to seriously endanger her. in fact, he makes effort to protect her at those times.
season 2, he worries for El when she goes off to the lab to close the gate, in contrast to Max figuring she can take care of herself. Mike formulates the plan to draw away the demodogs to make it safer for her.
season 3 is the big argument where Mike's seemingly the only one concerned for El's safety, accusing everyone of being careless with El's powers and treating her like a machine. (intriguing that the actual word "superhero" wasn't invoked in this scene)
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although Max makes valid points in this argument, bias from her trust issues causes her to take her points a bit too far. the same thing is going on with Mike. he makes valid points, but has bigtime loss issues that cause him to err in the other direction (arguing El is risking her life "for no reason" when literally the world is at stake).
in fact, throughout the series, his concern for El's safety looks chiefly motivated by his own fear of loss.
"I don't want her to die looking for the flayed"
oh boy does that line tell us a lot. he says "looking for". not "fighting". y'all see the size of the can of worms?
Mike worries about her dying not in combat to save the day, but from searching the void for too long and dying from strain of power overuse. which raises the question:
if Mike is worried about power strain... shouldn't it have been a concern when she had to close the gate last year, which was 1000x more strenuous?
El's battery-drainage has been common knowledge since s1, so either:
s2 Mike didn't realize closing the gate would take lots of power (doesn't make sense; Hopper told them the gate had gotten huge), OR
is there some reason Mike would've become even more El-loss-motivated by 3 than he was in 2, even though he got to "keep" El at the end of 2?
yes! the reason is Will.
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in s2, Will was in jeopardy. Mike's response to the El-gate-closing plan wasn't "oh no, El, don't! you might die or get brain damage!" it's "okaycool but let's make sure Will is safe first." when he does fret for El's safety, he specifies that it's the demodogs he's worried about. he makes no mention of power strain.
in s3 the world is at stake again, but suddenly now Mike is all "oh nooo we can't let El strain herself" regarding a comparatively extremely-low-power-intensity task (plus El is older and presumably stronger since s2). the key variable is that this time, Will is fine.
Mike has always cared about El's safety, but back when Will was at stake, he was able to overlook power strain on her as regrettable but necessary. right now, with Will's safety a non-issue, Mike is free to make El's safety his top concern, even to the point of judging all the others for acting basically like he did in s2. priorities.
anyway, back to the greater subject:
none of his behavior in the first few seasons looks much like the way someone would treat a superhero.
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if Mike has always understood that El needs help and protection, why does he get all superhero-y about her by season 4?
has he grown increasingly awed by her powers as they've strengthened? is Mike's arc the inverse of Max's, with him regarding El as more of a superhero over time? I don't think that's it.
I think framing this the same way for Mike as for Max is wrong, and misses what's really neat about this contrast.
we have to think about why each of them liken El to a superhero in the first place. it's not for the same reasons.
Mike and Max admire different qualities in their favorite superheroes.
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Max superhero name drop: Wonder Woman Max is a girl from a broken home who's felt abandoned, rejected, or abused by every male figure in her life, so we can see the obvious appeal in a strong, independent super-woman. (isn't WW's Lasso of Truth also just what a girl with trust issues would want?)
things like relative invincibility (I know WW isn't literally invincible but like, compared to a regular person), female independence, and ability to defend herself (esp from men) are defining superhero qualities to Max because they're a mix of what she has to be, and what she wishes she could be. she probably imagines that if she were WW, she wouldn't have to worry about anyone or anything that's making her life suck the way it does. WW is MM upside down. coincidence????? (yes)
that's what Max thought El was, early on, hence genuinely thinking El could take care of herself in the sauna.
so does Max just stop thinking of El as a superhero? not necessarily in every sense. right around the time Max is letting go of those preconceptions, another El-WW commonality becomes evident: El helps save the world not with superpowers, but with compassion for Billy.
a mainstay of the Wonder Woman character is the dichotomy of her dominant force aspect and her nurturing humanity: her overwhelming belief in love, empathy, compassion, and having a strong conscience.
I'm not sure whether to think El told anybody how she got through to Billy at the end. but if Max does know, then there are still Wonder Womanly things for her to admire about El's actual character, even if she doesn't think of her as a superhero anymore in the defining sense.
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Mike superhero name drop: Superman invincibility is more of a Superman thing, but not one I see evidence that Mike esteems in Supes, wishes for himself, or expects from El.
the qualities I figure Mike admires in Superman are evidenced by the ones that reflect in his own character: things like loyalty, protectiveness, strong sense of justice. nobody thinks his powers aren't cool, but I sense the real allure for Mike is the way Superman uses those powers for good. that's how Mike would use powers if he had any.
I think such qualities are also what he likes about El. I'm giving him a huge benefit of doubt here, because he hasn't made this clear textually. but in the monologue, I see now how he's calling her a superhero for her character, not her actual powers. he admires her for her loyalty to her friends, her commitment to fighting for good, her constant choice of love over hate - all that jazz. stuff that really does apply with or without her powers.
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Mike superhero name drop: X-Men when Lucas says El is a "weirdo, not a superhero" Mike doesn't deny her weirdo-ness, he defends it, in other words saying someone can be both.
the X-Men are outcasts due to genetic mutations, so their appeal is obvious among a group of nerds who are bullied and called freaks over a variety of prejudices. through an X-Men lens, Mike can find strength in the discrimination and struggle to fit in which the party faces in real life.
this all applies to El too, who faces definite struggles from not fitting in, getting bullied and called a freak as well.
two indicators that Mike meant it specifically in an X-Men way when he called El a superhero during their fight:
one: this conversation started with her talking about how she is different, doesn't belong, and everyone thinks she's a monster.
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two, Mike's word choice. he's already referenced his bullying, but his use of "mouth breather," a s1 throwback word referring to Troy ("I was tripped by this mouth breather Troy") links his thought process back to the X-Men conversation specifically (which took place on the heels of Troy bullying the party).
Mike didn't call her a superhero like "they don't have telekinesis and you do, so you rule and they drool!" he meant "yes you are different from everybody else, and I know that sucks a lot of the time, but the way you use your unique qualities to fight evil is what makes you awesome, like the X-Men!"
Mike superhero name drop: Mister Fantastic
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the first person whose superpowers Mike praises isn't El. it's Dustin! he thinks the hyper-flexibility Dustin gets bullied for is cool, kind of like the stretching powers of Mister Fantastic.
I don't know Mister Fantastic so I had to look up what his deal is, and was intrigued to find this:
.. although his cosmic ray powers are primarily stretching abilities, his presence on the Fantastic Four team is defined by his scientific acumen, as he is officially acknowledged as the smartest man in the Marvel Universe.
rather reminiscent of Dustin, the genius child who's always explaining magnets and the plot to everyone else? looks like his "superpower" is not the only reason Mike likens Dustin to Mister Fantastic. just like El's isn't the only reason he likens her to Superman.
anyway, Mike thinking of El as a superhero isn't the problem per se. the problem is him never articulating that he doesn't mean it in the hurtful way
Mike's had two big scenes where he REALLY needed to make this clear to El, and didn't (if I'm even on the right track here).
El doesn't know jack about superheroes except that they have powers, so when Mike calls her that, she has no idea he could be referring to anything other than her powers. you can't tell me she ever read a comic for him or listened to him talk about Superman. I can't remember El ever even politely feigning interest in Mike's interests.
the only time she's ever listened to anyone lore dump about superheroes was Max about Wonder Woman, and if my above reading is accurate, early s3 Max probably focused on superpowers more than character.
the closest we ever came to E listening to Mike talk about a "superhero" he likes is:
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it's not like he extolled Yoda's bravery or anything. just telekinesis. so it's little wonder what her takeaway is here. all she has to go by is what he says out loud.
and when Mike reassures her, unprompted, that she'll get her powers back at the end of s3, it just reinforces her notion that telekinesis is really important to him.
when actually, I think Mike just says that because it's important to her. she's lost a part of herself and he wants her to feel whole. (whether El truly wants her powers back for her own sake or because she fears she's not valuable to others without them is another conversation - point here is, Mike saw her try, fail, and look upset about it, so he reassures her.)
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ps, I do like how reaching that teddy bear for her serves as a micro illustration of the way he's willing to help reach goals in conventional ways instead of relying on her powers.
but yeah, again, clearly she thinks he means her powers when he calls her a superhero and she answers "not anymore".
which leads to a question I've yelled at the tv more than once: why didn't he just clarify as soon as El said "not anymore"? this whole thing could've been nipped in the bud?
I think he doesn't even realize the miscommunication.
his intent with the superhero "compliment" might just be so obvious to him that he doesn't realize it needs clarification for her.
"but how could he miss the miscommunication? what else than her lost powers could she mean by "not anymore"?" maybe Mike thinks she DOES already understand that he means the superhero thing in terms of admirable character. so, when she says "not anymore", maybe he thinks she's referring not to her lost powers, but to her lost standing in his eyes since hitting Angela?
I've pondered before about how maybe Mike's admiration of El's Supermanly "unwavering moral code" is why he was so upset that it apparently wavered after Rinkomania.
he didn't say anything to clarify after "not anymore" because he is still sorting out those feelings.
I'm not sure Mike realizes even after the "I have gone to become a superhero again" note (which he reads after finding out El is in training to get her powers back).
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his reaction to the note isn't "oh no, I didn't mean superhero like that!" but rather seems all about his regret about El leaving him behind as a result of his failure to force an "I love you". (ah, the old fear of loss disguised as romantic love again)
I don't believe he'd fail to apologize/clarify if he realized the way that this hurt El. he can be an ass, he can be stupid, but he does reliably own up to his mistakes and apologize.
I used to think the "with/without your powers" line in the monologue meant he was aware of the miscommunication, and was trying to clarify. but he did such a bad job clarifying that it makes a lot more sense if he actually still hasn't clocked the issue at all. I gotta think he couldn't have been dumb enough to say the superhero thing again unless he still didn't get how it was hurtful in the first place.
he does have El on a pedestal. it's just not because of her powers.
the monologue is largely selfish, and doesn't land well for El, but it's not the worship-of-superpowers Mike is so often accused of. he's locked onto the "I love you" thing, caught up in his own fear of loss, and completely missing the optics for her.
the superhero thing can be cleared up with a single conversation. the true underlying issue, which would still persist, is this "extraordinary vs. ordinary" dynamic in his mind which isn't serving either of them well. he's got low self esteem from viewing himself as some useless loser compared to her; and the last thing she wants is another guy considering her extraordinary, which has been a horrific liability all her life, and she just wants normalcy.
reason #7519 why 🦴.
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in conclusion: Mike and Max having different Super-El arcs is the good arc for both of them
as Max sees El needing protection, she comes to realize that powers don't grant the kind of freedom/safety that she daydreamed would go along with being a superhero in real life. so for Max to decreasingly regard El as a superhero is a positive thing.
as Mike sees El continue to loyally fight against ever-greater forces of evil and the social struggles that come with her uniqueness, he continues to admire the same qualities in her that define his favorite superheroes. so for Mike to still/increasingly regard El as a superhero is a... well-intentioned, potentially positive thing. (it can be, if he takes her off the pedestal and explains this in a way she can understand.)
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thestrangestthing89 · 2 months ago
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A Wrinkle In Time
We know this book by Madeleine L'Engle is a big influence for the show. I think it's going to tie together a lot of what is happening with Will.
A quick summary: Meg and her little brother Charles Wallace go looking for their missing father with the help of Meg's friend Calvin, and their neighbor Mrs. Whatsit. Mrs. Whatsit is a supernatural being from another dimension and she takes the trio through the universe with Mrs. Who and Mrs. Which. They use a tesseract to go through time and space in order to travel inter-dimensionally. They visit several planets on their journey: 1) Uriel - A beautiful place that is usually peaceful but has an approaching dark cloud called The Black Thing. Darkness is starting to take over this world but they are fighting against it. 2) Orions Belt - The Happy Medium is here. The Happy Medium is a being that shows the kids that The Black Thing is also taking over Earth and they must fight against the darkness back home. 3) Camazotz - A planet that has been fully taken over by The Black Thing. A telepathic brain called IT controls everyone through a hive mind. IT works for The Black Thing and is literally a giant brain. 4) Ixchel - Named after the Mayan goddess of the rainbow and medicine. Meg recovers from IT here. Ixchel is also fighting against The Black Thing. Things are not as they appear. It seems grey and lifeless but is actually wonderful. The exact opposite of Camazotz where things seem idyllic but are carefully controlled and dangerous. During their time in Camazotz, Charles Wallace lets himself get controlled by IT to try to find their father. Meg has to leave him behind when she gets injured and when she finds him towards the end, she finds that he is still under ITs control. In the end, Meg frees him with love.
What this means for Will:
I think we are going to find that Will has been a part of the hive mind this whole time and we cannot trust anything that we have seen. When Joyce and Hopper find him in the UD at the end of S1, he has a vine down his throat.
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Will struggles to fight against the elements of the UD. I think Will is becoming a part of the UD's version of IT. It's attached itself to him because it wants to use him for something. I think it's more his mind that it's after and this is where I think we can start to question what we are seeing. When he goes back home he starts to have flashbacks. At the end of S1 he throws up a slug and flashes back to the UD and this happens through S2 as well. Will's flashbacks are a comparison to PTSD. He is traumatized and struggling to adjust back to his life. But in a supernatural sense, I think he is still attached to the hive mind of the UD. Through S2 we see the Mind Flayer, a cloud of black smoke, stalking Will. Again, this is a metaphor for PTSD. He's struggling to move past what happened to him and it's a constant reminder. Will is physically back from the UD but mentally he is still attached to the place and can't move past it. The Mind Flayer is the closest comparison the The Black Thing. (Hopper, Joyce, and Murray also come across black smoke locked in a room in Russia which I think is meant to be a part of the MF.) Will has a connection to the Mind Flayer because he has a connection to the UD since it attached itself to him. Planet 1 - The Upside Down - This is a place Will goes to when he's being abused by his father. It's a metaphor for his abuse along with the demogorgan (a monster version of a normal villain). The darkness aka the Mind Flayer, has full reign here. We also know the atmosphere is toxic and people usually have on hazmat suits when they enter. It is not a safe place. Throughout season 2 Will is struggling with possession and by the end he is not acting like himself. The darkness has fully taken over and he is evil. Once he gets de-possessed things start to go back to normal. The kids go to the Snow Ball and everything seems fine. But this is where I think our reality really starts to get messed up. Because we see the UD version of the school gym and the MF is hovering over it.
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I don't think the Snow Ball is actually happening. I think Will is still possessed and this is his mind. He's being shown his fears. In this case, he is also being shown conformity and it's a theme that continues through S3. It's been well noted that S3 is just odd. I don't think anything we are seeing is real. I think this is Will's mind (it's Will's world). He's being shown something that he is afraid of - his friends ignoring him and moving on, his family being distant. He doesn't fit in and worries that he's being left behind. I think this is the shows version of Camazotz. I don't think Will actually traveled to a different planet but I think he is there in his head. Why? Because he needs to wake up. There are also a lot of references to Will having died (we see this in S1 and we also see the grave of Max's brother Billy that says "William", and a grave in the mindscape that says "Byers".) In S4, I think Mike is helping wake Will up when he goes to Lenora. This version of reality is also not quite right. El is still taking over for Will while he is in the background. Will is stuck in a mindscape and needs to get out. While the rest of Hawkins is real and battling the darkness that is taking over. At the end of the season, Will is back in Hawkins in the Rightside up. But at the end of the episode he has a vision of the UD taking over Hawkins. It's still a part of him. Planet 2 - The Rightside Up - This is our normal reality of Hawkins but it's struggling to fight back the darkness. We see this with the bullying, the conformity, and the kids disappearing and dying. So what cures the darkness? Light (lightning). Love. Mike and Will's relationship is key to saving the day. But it's not just romantic love. Familial love and friendship love are important themes on the show too. Season 5 Episode 7 is called Escape from Camazotz. I don't think this is a physical place but meant to indicate healing, especially for Will. He is escaping from the hive mind that was controlling him and pulling him back to the darkness. He is healing from his abuse. I think Henry is meant to be the opposite. He let the darkness take over. He is a part of the Upside Down now. Visually he blends in with the UD and looks similar to the Mind Flayer. This is what Will could become if he didn't fight against the darkness. Planet 3 - A paradise planet - The opposite of the Upside Down. Will's healing and accepting himself is critical to fighting the darkness. The final episode is called The Rightside Up which indicates that everything will go back to the way it's supposed to be - Will is no longer attached to the hivemind or the UD, he is healing. Hawkins has successfully fought off the darkness/the Mind Flayer.
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thewisewill80sbyers · 2 months ago
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“Don't worry about the show the Duffers will never make it explicit there because the network has guidelines to follow and the show is for everybody, they know that even young kids watch it so no matter what people want to do online they're not going to get explicit Byler inside the TV show”
I don’t think there will be explicit Byler sex next season either, but I’m not sure this is fair? ST is specifically not a network show. At present it’s TV-14 on Netflix, but it could easily get a TV-MA if they wanted to go there. ST has intense horror violence and will likely be more graphic this season. Sure young kids watch it, but I don’t think the Duffers make their show for young audiences. It’s still an adult show.
I mean, yeah they could do anything in theory, but I really don't think it's what will happen, and it would weird out lots of people because it's not really cohesive with how the show has been constructed previously, I would bet they're not showing explicit scenes of them fucking and I'm pretty sure Netflix doesn't want that in the show format either because they don't want to possibly lose some views, even if they put the rating up they know the kids want to watch it and that if they put that the parents will be pissed off so I'm thinking they'll push against it and they're going to keep it as PG as possible for the sexual aspect of it for the "kids" characters as they did before
It's gonna be gruesome and violent because it always was and for some reason people don't care about violence as much as they care for the sex scenes... but they didn't show it in season 1 and 2 and always filmed it with privacy when they approached sexuality even the most explicit stuff they put in the show were very low-key and it was an adult show in season 1 too, but they specifically avoided that even if the actors were adults already... imo they don't like to be too explicit with sex for the vibe of this show specifically idk how else to explain it (it's like they say, it's not game of thrones lmao)
and for the couples that work they're often not showing physicality almost at all or cutting the scene, even Hopper and Joyce couldn't properly make out before they interrupted it and they're both adults 😭😭😭😭 I do hope they have a more explicit scene next season though!
But anyway for characters who are still minors at most we could get them start to make out and maybe undress a little and then the scene cuts, it's their style of writing... for byler I personally believe they will happen in the finale so it really doesn't make any sense for me to let them sleep together before they even have their saving the world by being gay moment, that's way too rushed let them confess their feelings first lol
Oh also another thing to consider is how much Holly and her friends are being put in the middle of the last season, them adding MORE kids to the show to me doesn't point to them upping up the rating and adding sexual stuff tbh it actually goes against that
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teambyler · 1 year ago
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"Byler Endgame, One Episode at a Time" - s5e5
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Plot beats and scenes leading to a Byler endgame, one episode at a time, for Season 5 of Stranger Things. (This is just for fun! I have no insider knowledge!)
Also see Part 0, where I explain what I think a Byler Endgame has to address. Link to the previous episode.
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Will is unconscious and bound to prevent him from taking off his headphones. Mike and El stay with Will. The group heads out to assault Vecna’s power source when Vecna is distracted by Will. El will piggyback and try to protect Will.
El talks to Mike. “You know why he took off the headphones, Mike?” “Vecna controlled his mind?” “No, Mike… Will was doing it. He loves you, Mike. I saw what Vecna told him. He said he’d kill you if he doesn’t give himself to Vecna.” Mike’s mouth drops open. El tears up: “He doesn’t see living without you, Mike… Did you know he’s loved you since you were five years old?” Mike can’t believe what he’s hearing. “WHAT?” “If he makes it, you have to talk to him, Mike, okay? No more pretending.” She tenderly puts her hand in his hair. “Friends don’t lie.” Mike starts to realize it all and starts to sob. She hugs him. Mike glances at Will and looks back at El: “Thank you. I - I’m so sorry…” She shakes her head and smiles, and kisses Mike on the cheek.
They hear from the walkie-talkie that now is the time. She takes Mike’s hand, “I can help you talk to him.” He understands and nods. They each hold one of Will’s hands. El takes the headphones off of Will. He starts to breathe heavily. Vecna is getting close… They close their eyes as El starts to focus.
Current-day Will is in the Upside Down, in the woods, and El is nowhere to be seen. Something is pursuing him. He runs to the old Byers house, runs in, and shuts the door. He hears Vecna taunting him: “How suitable. It’s time to finish what I started…” Will runs out to the old shed where the gun is. He is hyperventilating and starts to load the bullets. He feels the back of his neck, and turns around. He knows Vecna is in the back yard. Vecna slowly approaches the shed… when Will strides out and fires the gun. Vecna staggers back. Will is reliving and struggling through all the trauma and pain of everything that has happened to him since that fateful night. He strides forward, repeatedly firing, getting closer each time.
The bullets only have so much effect, and Vecna grabs Will by the neck. Will starts panicking. Back at Hopper’s cabin it becomes apparent Will is being Vecna’d. Mike: “El, what’s happening?” El is still struggling to focus. Mike tearfully kisses Will’s hand. “I’m right here!” El arrives in the Upside Down. She tries to stop Vecna but vines immediately grab her and restrain her. Vecna smiles and looks at Will: “Good… I see you have power over this place, too…” El looks in horror at Will, who is looking at Vecna in utter despair as he continues to taunt him. The more hopeless he feels, the more horrible his surroundings become. The Upside Down is tied to Will. El cannot reach him. Will starts to levitate.
Back in Hopper’s cabin, El levitates herself and Mike together with Will. She tightens her grip on Mike’s hand. Mike’s eyes open wide as he realizes what El’s doing. She shares his memories with Will (“I asked you to be my friend. You said yes”… a kindergarten Mike and Will swinging high on a pair of swings… biking through the rain and hugging his mom when he thought Will was dead, jumping off the cliff to join Will, by his bedside in s2, apologizing to Will in the rain, Will: “Not possible,” Mike looking back at Byers house and hugging his mom again, reading El’s letter “Maybe it is for a girl, I think there is someone he likes”, Will giving Mike the painting in the van, Mike happy seeing the painting, Will: “better for being different”) Mike: “I love you Will! Not just as a friend… I’ve always loved you. The painting, all of it, going to Vecna… I know what you’re doing! I won’t let you! And I’m sorry! I was too stupid to say how I feel. I was scared Will! I’m so sorry…”
… Vecna snaps Will’s arm. Mike: “No!!!”
In the Upside Down, Will opens his eyes with a look of utter determination. The vines unwrap around El. She distracts Vecna enough that Will falls to the ground (here and in Hopper’s cabin). El and Vecna have a showdown. The rest of the party, seeing their chance, get at Vecna’s power source. Seeing he is weakened, Vecna hurries elsewhere.
Will wakes up and winces from his arm, and looks kind of lost. Mike and El look at each other with concern. Mike: “I’m here.” He wants to hold Will but doesn’t want to hurt him. Will looks directly at Mike and extends his one good arm to him. Mike cups Will’s face and kisses him passionately. It is a long kiss… Will puts his hand in Mike’s hair, tears flowing. When it’s over Will is in disbelief.  “Am I dead?” El and Mike laugh. Mike caresses Will’s hair. Mike: “Don’t leave me Will, ever…” Will laughs and nods. “Okay.” Mike laughs, they kiss, and then hold on to each other as tightly as Will’s arm allows.
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