#hopefully this clears somethings up??
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P.s the person who asked about the 3200 words thingy, I misread it or just worded it badly xd
Sure, I’m just taking notes at this point. I saw it and was just confused, I see many people making bots different and don’t know what formula to use
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I could record a podcast on the different formulas and which ones work and not, but my carpal tunnel will NOT allow me to type it all 😭😭💔 I hope to shed some clarity on my process at least, but I really do recommend experimenting. I've been doing this for over a year, so I've experimented a lot.
For first messages, let's go over one of my new bots, I haven't posted this one yet fyi.
Notice my message is edited, it seldom is great the first time. Here, you see that the first ever response has ZERO dialog. This is actually a first for me, and I realized that there were multiple problems with my first message: I didn't use a name, I had not written anything in the moment (specifically, actions,) and something else I forgot. Even the little things make a difference, I never use personal pronouns so it might be different if you do. This is also too short for my liking.
Adding that I don't like the quick shift from the attitude I wrote in the greeting. It feels inorganic. The other replies are ver similar in nature.
I'm actually going to end this here, because I just remembered I'm not done toying with this bot 😭😭 it is far from perfect. More evidence that it really is a case by case basis unfortunately. For now, I'll show you my blacksmith Leo one.
To be fair, I already worked on him and he has been posted for a while so it looks a bit different from what yours might at the start because it has already been programmed.
This bot is kind of a take your own route one here, and my oc (an actual oc this time lol) is inviting him to her brother's wedding. I have coded in that user has a family he is familiar with, but no specifics. I have to make it a point to clarify if she has a large or small family. I also specified the wedding is in Sparta, a place in Greece. I am checking for a key things here: how is the bot responding to this information?
I don't want anything rude, especially not when other people will be using it, but I want to consistently get positive or neutral things. In this case it is an oc but think about bots where people might tell an actual thing about them, I do NOT want the bot to be like "screw that, you're stupid." (I have gotten bazar responses before with the most nonsense things like a favorite color and that does not need to be happening to unsuspecting people.)
If the bot is adapting well, then good. I also care about how long the responses are. I like long ones.
Also because the relationship between the user and Leo is mostly alluded to, I did have to go back and make a lot of edits to the definition to get good responses. Some people might use this bot for friendship, probably isn't the majority, but even then it should do just fine with that. Also know who is using it, but if it is just you, this part really does not matter.
There is a lot more personal preference from here, but it is 100% okay if you need to go back and do some editing. Whether that be in the greeting or the definition. It takes a lot of trial and error, sometimes.
#hopefully this clears somethings up??#im so bad at confining my step-by-step thoughts but im learning#explaining is a better word actually#if you have any more questions please do ask#౨ৎ⋆ anne’s guide ˚。⋆
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Meme dump yayyy🥳✨️
(off to make more now muhahaha >:3)
#SIGH WHERE HAD LILI DISAPPEARED TO THIS TIME? TSK TSK SMH 😔#Now now my dearest darling loyal subjects fret not~!!#your beloved princess shall answer all your worries away ~★#mwah mwah~<3#heh~🤭🩷#Soooo updated time!!! >_<#I'm on a road trip halfway across the country rn (was a fun bad idea..my cousins and I nearly had a heat stroke TWICE but it's soo worth it#...I'll hopefully be back by tonight because it's my grandfather's birthday tomorrow and we're planning a surprise party for him#Muhahaha >:3#* happy dances*#Anyways I had time to kill between crying while playing mystic messenger together with my cousin#(I'm making her do Saeran's route sjbqbjjbqjbqbj9ioqjqhiqohwu9wh9uwub I LOVE HIM I ADORE HIM HE WAS THE FIRST CHARACTER I EVER WANTED TO#MARRY HE IS SO DREAM HUSBAND CODED SIJSB8YWBUW MY POOR POOR SWEET ANGEL BABY YOU DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER#THE WORLD DOES NOT DESERVE YOU AAHHHIHSIHAIJIAJ AND OMG HIS ENDING SONG IT ALWAYS MAKES ME CRY SJOBSOJHJSH0SSUS0SSHU0IS0HISH0IS0JHSHJS0HIS0#EVEN IF YOU WERE AN EXPIRED LOLIPOP I'D STILL EAT YOU!! I'D ALWAYS EAT YOU AND ONLY YOU NO MATTER WHAT#I-I MEAN PICK YOU!!! I'D ALWAYS PICK YOU NO MATTER WHAT!! NOT TO SAY THAT I WOULDN'T CANNIBALISE YOU!!#GIVE ME THE CHANCE AND I'D LICK YOU UP I WON'T LEAVE A SINGLE DROP BEHIND O-OF THE LOLIPOP OF OFC NOT TO SAY I WOULDN'T DO THE SAME IF IT#WAS HIS C- I'LL STOP MUST CONTROL I CAN'T WRITE ESSAYS HERE OF HOW MUCH I LOVE AND WANT SAERAN AHHHH MY HEART🥺🩷🩷😭😭)#*cough cough*sooo anywho I'm normal now dw!!😇✨️ (/lie)#and us reading ORV (I'm on chapter 340 something rn and kdj is kdj and i just want to soksjnss9hsj9sbu that stupid squid (/affectionate)#and if I start ranting rn it would never end...#so expect like a 80000 words essay when I'm done with the full novel🫠)#I cleared out my phone gallery yayyy heh🥳🤭 and found so many RH memes that I never posted lmao#Oh!!! And I've noticed something even though I'm a Vin girly through and through#(as evidenced by the fact that my blog is quite literally a shrine to him)#I always end up making Crux memes more...That stupid green onion clown you're so easy to love😔🩷#Anyways Lili out now mwah mwah mwah 🩷🩷🫂✨️#♡{reanimated heart}♡#reanimated heart#reanimatedheart
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I've issued myself a challenge to make 100 sticker designs in preparation for applying to stickers trove - I have not quite reached that (applied at 54!) but I'd love to share what I've created 🥰
These strawhaters (thank you noir!!) are some of the earliest designs from this challenge!
#one piece#usopp#roronoa zoro#monkey d luffy#cat burglar nami#black leg sanji#tony tony chopper#nefertari vivi#nico robin#soul king brook#jinbei#cyborg franky#the preview image quality is suspiciously shit LOL; hopefully itll clear up after posting#im the most proud of Franky's design - my first franky and he turned out so cute!#and brook's text#i will be gone for a week so i wanted to leave something to tide yall over <3#...i say as if i was posting daily LOL
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so, Batman #147… rambling about the difference in how Zdarsky portrays the two current Robins
this is a fantastic run for Tim, and very much written like a return to form of what plenty consider the best dynamic duo, but even more so "the best Robin". once Damian's introduced in this run, Zdarsky really makes sure you still know that lol
1. "We don't need anyone else" VS "I need my family"
#147 clearly exemplifies the contrast, so i'll go through it first. Damian, having fallen for Zurr's lie and accepted him as the real Bruce, goes so far as to say in the very first page "We don't need anyone else." it's cold colors, machinery, and hollow declarations of "father and son" for these two.
towards the ending, Tim has deduced where the real Bruce is hiding and brings him food expecting Bruce's knack for self-neglect. it's all warmth, sunshine, and mutual understanding - also a cute back and forth of "Batman and Robin" between them. on top of this, where Damian isolates Batman & Robin from family, Tim is the one to remind Bruce about "helping each other." Bruce heartily agrees with "I need my family" for a weighty end.
along with this parallel, from #138 Tim makes it clear that even in opposition, he's only ever trying to help Bruce. Damian was still on the wrong side with Zurr-induced-Bruce here at the time too 😭
2. Tim's independence as both a hero and partner
Tim is written as the ideal Robin to Bruce's Batman, and has made Robin its own independent hero on equal footing rather than a sidekick - it's made in statements by both Tim and Bruce, and through the entire narrative. he takes initiative and tries to foresee what would ultimately help Bruce. beyond being great partners, there's many bits showing their emotional connection ("i'm scared of being lost, but i'm more scared of losing you, Bruce" hit me like a bag of bricks). tbh this almost could be a Batman and Robin run lol
added the first panel from #126 of Tim declaring he's his own hero outside of Bruce, proven plenty especially in his backups in #131-134!! the other panels are a few highlights from #128, #130, and #135 of the partnership between Tim and Bruce
granted it's Zurr, but Damian is mostly seen following orders and given pensive looking panels when there's something concerning. While Tim continued to represent Batman's ideals during his own solo quest to find Bruce, Damian doesn't question or take action against "Bruce's" sudden shift in ethics
Batman #134 Backup - Tim showing support toward Toyman VS Batman #146 - Zurr and Damian confront Harley as she pleads about her change of heart
another kiinda parallel in #147 is Bruce acknowledging Tim's hard work to become Robin compared to Damian who's out here going Batman and Robin/Father and Son. i don't think it's an intended parallel but just the state of continuing to show Tim in a better light - Tim put in the effort "to become the second-best Robin" while Damian is Robin because..."son." supposedly less effort on his part too, because LOA.
second pic is from Batman/Catwoman The Gotham War: Scorched Earth, felt fitting to add since Tim mentions needing to "know everything" in both. and the humble brag. which ofc Tim believes Dick is the best!! but also. jic we didn't know Tim is the best current Robin sdfgh
3. Damian's blind loyalty as "Bruce's son"
there's a weight to the Robin title when regarding Tim, whereas Damian's "Robin" role is excess and counterintuitive. he's delegated to desperate sidekick to Bruce, as well as becoming an obstacle to the family. being Robin only seems significant to Damian in how it ties himself to his father, and his single Robin quality is a loyalty that's been written to an extreme fault. the only positive angle i could see this in is Zdarsky aiming to put Damian in a sympathetic light in how far Damian was willing to fall to stay by his father's side, hence, fooled by that nightmare story/confession. the problem with this is that we have not seen a single emotional connection between the two in this run, so why should we care about that relationship.
also, Damian constantly bringing up his position as Bruce's son just makes him look entitled? since Bruce rightfully expressed his claim of having the others as his sons too (with the unfortunate exclusion of his daughter)! so it's like a "lol you're not that special" vibe when looking at it from the outside?? ykw concerning #138, Damian saying "You're the one trying to destroy my father" also could have been in contrast to Tim saying "We'll help our dad" at the end.
Zdarsky seems to believe the only meaningful part of Damian being Robin is he's the son of Bruce, and not a single nod to any noble aspect Damian's achieved beyond that. we're constantly reminded of Tim's greatest hits as Robin, from taking on the mantle to pull Bruce out of darkness (#135, #138), mastermind a whole takedown (Gotham War: Scorched Earth), and always being on the same wavelength with Bruce etc. the entire run sings Tim's praise, and it's deserved!! my problem is how it's in stark contrast to Damian's portrayal of being the other Robin who's only special because he believes he's the greatest son and wants to be at Bruce's side.
so all this to say, if your fav is Tim YOU'RE EATING WELL!! personally as a chronic enjoyer of things, this has been an entertaining run! as a chronic enjoyer of Damian, it's definitely not for many of his fans at this point in time.
i did like this part!! his grin!!
#rambling#i'm not v good explaining things besides yelling about how cute Damian is but hopefully the observations are clear enough#instead of an essay i think i should pull up a conspiracy board of all the panels/lines and post it notes of my points#bc writing this has made me go cross eyed trying to verbalize parallels and differences 😭#like. Tim's Robin moments are stunners!! kickass or emotional scenes with or without Bruce!!#then Damian acts like everyone is beneath him and Bruce...when they've barely had any meaningful dialogue with eo#gave Zdarsky the benefit of doubt that Damian was pulling something similar to Morgan Ducard#but ofc that would mean he actually cared about any of Damian’s comics outside of his intro with Morrison 😭#i don't think Zdarsky hates Damian exactly just that he's a convenient character to use as a parallel since there's two Robins ALTHOUGH#thinking of the Batman sketch by Jorge or Zdarsky?? ITS A BLUR at NYCC and Zdarsky added a word bubble with 'Tim is the Best Robin' or smth#he wants to remind ppl of that every so often. like in the batman run. i wouldn't mind it if he wasn't putting my fav against that#especially when they're sharing the title but alas!#this run could be a great sendoff to Tim's Robin era and gaining a new title... or this is all Zdarsky fanboy lol which is fair#ANYWAY BACK TO WHIMSY!! TO DILLY DALLYING AND SHILLY SHALLYING!!
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#tropius#HE SO APPY!!! FUCK!!! HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS ONE#i've never looked at tropius up close before i didn't even know they had a little helmet and shit. this is WONDERFUL. they're SO appy#i hope you all appreciate this as much as i do because this is very good. i don't even know anything about tropius. jack SHIT. except that#they're so appy. and i will accept this. i gotta work but i've been too busy thinking abt how appy they are#i also started the process of remaking my main blog. bc it just had a lot of posts on it all the way back to way back in my past#and i felt like it was weighing the whole blog down and making me not want to use it. and that blog needed some housekeeping for me to want#to associate myself with it. so i'm currently in the process of coming up with a new URL before i start really renovating#so the hunt for miss ffp starts anew or something. unless i've lazily replied to you in a comment once and you remember my url#i've done that to a few of you. demifiendcruithne is one. shoutouts to you demifiendcruithne you're the best#then there was that one who assumed i use windows. despite recognizing that i'm “rather techy.” yuck!#had to respond to that one to clear up any suspicion that i might be a windows user. this is all totally unrelated and also will be#totally irrelevant by the time this post gets up anyway. hopefully. y'know if i haven't come up with a new url by then then#i mean. that's my fault. but this isn't gonna post until july 23rd. 10 days from today. so. hopefully!#see you all then
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Thump. Thump. Vincent couldn't believe what he was hearing. He had a feeling there was something off about Isaac, with his constant questions about his personal life. If this was true, then all he intended was to get to know his brother better. He put a firm hand on his shoulder and looked at his face. Just like their Dad, they had similar facial features. Vincent wanted to clarify by asking him a question. The question was ridiculous, but it wasn't shared with the media during his disappearance. Only his family would know his habits, "What football club did he support?" Isaac turned the other way.
"Arsenal. That bastard never missed a match!" an immediate response. He tried to hide his anger and gritted his teeth, "Look, Vincent. I lived as Isacco Romano in Italy. I worked my ass off there to become a lawyer" he paused, "Now that I've found you, let's uncover the truth and give our Dad the end he deserves." Vincent knew at that moment, that they shared the same goal. They were both certain that their Dad was still alive.
#ts4#sims 4#ts4 gameplay#ts4 legacy#postcard legacy#postcard gen 3#vincent kingsley#isaac kingsley#ahh im really enjoying coming up w plot!!! its so vincent focused now#the football question lol i was gonna write how he liked his steak#obviously theres a clear reason why he lived as isacco romano (and in another country) as the police did not know their dad had another son#they both have their backstories#hopefully your theories/questions#will be answered the more i post#and vincents heart racing and#light headedness in chestnut must be bc he was getting close to finding isaac right? or is it something else (ignoring heart condition)
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As we start another season:
How to Spot Fake/Joke News Updates:
- if it's tweet, look at the @/username. 90% of the tweets that go around on here that say they're a film updates or news site have a normal user @ thats not associated with the actual site they're pretending to be.
- if it's a screenshot of a news site or other site/account, verify for yourself. (Especially if it's futoncritic, they don't actually delete posts. They just put a strike through and make another post)
- if you can't find a REPUTABLE (major publication or legit database) way to back up (significant) information , it most likely isn't real/true.
#i wont post anything that isnt legit#and if i do post something that im skeptical of#i will make it clear in my post that i am skeptical#if i dont post it#its probably not real#but you can send me an ask if youre not sure and i havent posted it because i do miss things sometimes#anyways between the shit thats happened with fake synopsis and the joke tweets that started over hiatus#i just figured lets make a post now and hopefully that'll help clear some of those up early?
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the elden ring DLC coming out reminded me I've actually had a larger er piece sitting around uncompleted for *checks watch* 5 months so was fun to revisit that a little today hahaha
#i haven't gotten the dlc yet so i'm playing catch up OTL#i forgot how disgustingly overpowered my build was from the base game lmfao mohg's spear is Busted#wiped all the dragon bosses out in like 20 minutes and it only took that long cause i kept wandering around#just clearing shit out before i start ng+ and make a proper go of the DLC haha#i head my boy mohg gets some lore looking forward to that i love my omen bros#i can't imagine it's like Happy lore god forbid but hey i love a good tragedy#elden ring#wip#kinda funny how the ranni by itself works so nicely as like a sticker design or something asl;dkfj#i love symmetry you see#fr this old piece has Such a good comp i did totally plan to finish this ages ago before getting distracted#hopefully i can at least get the lines done before i get distracted again haha
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steel wool has the hugest opportunity in the world for a sb 2 like. vanny cassie plotline of her having been manipulated by mimic to be its new minion by framing Gregory during the elevator scene to cut off her one support system. gregory vanessa and freddy protags fleshing them out with dialogue as characters but also their motivations and what theyve been doing for years. have their long absence in games period but also in universe from helping the glamrocks/setting up mxes be explained by showcasing their fear and trauma by them just wanting to get away and they thought they were safe but they werent. have cassie be the reason they have to jump back into the fray and realize no matter what they do theyll have to kill mimic for good to be truly free even if they're afraid. plot of the game is Gregory trying to convince cassie he didnt do it and that shes being tricked and it takes all campaign to get through to her, probably after an intense dramatic climax. have Roxy be there by Cassies side to show how Freddy abandoning them at the Plex affected her and the 2 sides of the same coin the 2 of them have going on regarding sentience and their relationship with the characters they were designed to be with Freddy who got to be free and roxy who didnt. the actual vanny comes back as a big betrayal towards mimic after killing glitchtrap in hw2, either to become an antihero or to try and take over as mastermind. superstar duo reunite and names cleared. throughout the campaign Gregory finds out about ggy and its revealed in a room with documents about patient 46 and tapes where a final tape is found and Gregory speaks in it or is addressed by name. he grapples with it and not remembering it. btw setting is a modern day fallfest which is like amusement park size instead of small festival. boom peak game
#this is isnane wishful thinking but i think some of these could happen hopefully#like vanny cassie seems like such a clear direction for the story and the framed plotline with Gregory works with it so well#plus roxy being there and interacting with freddy could be a natural way to explain why 3 star fam didnt help them#and give more insight to their characters and motivations and their fear#i just feel like. if they portray 3 star as being afraid in and out and their absense isnt just an absence and#they could actually explain it and also enhance their characters at the same time#itd work so well#they were absent from the story and games for so long bc they tried their hardest to be#they were afraid and wanted to just be free and live normally and not face the mimic#so they just trapped it in a room with help from mxes#(the hw2 candy cadet story about not buying the family meal)#and then the mimic came back because they DIDNT kill it out of fear (everyone dying when they didnt by the meal)#and thats their arc is that their arc gives all the insight we could need about how sb affected them#and vanny and vanessas abuse and gregory and freddy and their family and how close they are but how afraid they are too#and that this game would be when theyre forced to confront the mimic after putting it off bc of fear#which is literslly the story the hw2 candy cadet stories tell basically#with cassie being the 'casualty'#but cassie gregorys bff being hurt and caught in the middle is what forces them to finally face their fear l#and kill the mimic#like. this makes so much sense. its such a clear direction and lines up with everyrhing#gives a genuine explanation for why cassies dad was so involved. its bc 3 star wasnt on purpose#has the foundation to flesh out everything we could possibly want to see about them#PLEASE ZTEEL WOOLLLL. PLEASE IM BEGGING. JUST SOMETHING SIMIALR TO THIS EVEN A LITTLE BUT#some things like roxy and freddy and ggy and the fallfest stuff might be wishful rhinking but like#the entire thing with 3 star and cassie and mimic is just so vivid and clear to me. it could so easily be the direction#but im so prepared for them to do something completely different and be lowkey disappointed#thoughts#theory#pre security breach 2#<-courtesy of dawko bc hes calling the idea of this game sb2. ill change it one day
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if the only footage youve seen of the game doesnt actually give you a good idea of what the game/story is like (like its from a parody video or is otherwise heavily edited for example) then it doesnt count as having watched the game and you should pick little to no actual exposure to the game. only interacting with the games content through fanart/fanfic/etc also counts as little to no actual exposure to the game
#okay heres another one.#now that im thinking about it i probably should have put a button for people who arent sonic fans to push#so they dont mess up the results. but again. no room. i used up all the space there was to have as many options as possible#so hopefully people who dont care about sonic will just scroll past this#sonic the hedgehog#sth#sonic forces#sonic polls#anyway ive played sonic forces in its entirety like 3 or 4 times at least . because theres something deeply wrong with me .#(to be clear i havent touched the game in a while. im not regularly playing sonic forces)#as for my opinion on it . there are aspects of it that i like and i admittedly have some nostalgia for the game#but i can also admit that its not very good and there are a lot of things about it that i dont like or wish were done differently#im just not a big fan of the 2010s era of sonic in general if im being honest#feels like not as much care and love was being put into the games as before i dont know how to explain it
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boy in silly sitting positions compilation
#cats#I especially like the last one where he just has one single paw poking out of that box for some reason lol#I still have costumes to post and like a billion other things.... grr... constantly failing at staying active on social media aughh#I think because currently my Main Focus is on trying to get my game done and stuff.. which basically just means sitting and writing all day#so there's not much to post about. Though I know the Good At Social Media thing to do would be to post about the#writing and share progress and talk about the game and characters or whatever to try to build interest or something but that is SOOO weird#to me.. I could maybe get it if it was like a tiny tiny discord groupchat of playtesters with like 5 people in#it.. But something about talking openly about things before they happen is weird to me?? Like presumptuous feeling or something#''oooo guess whats gonna happen LATER!!!'' like.. how do you know.. what if it doesnt. what if you dont finish it. what if its not the way#you think it's going to be. what if something changes. etc. Like I literally avoid movie trailers and game trailers for the same reason ghj#Even if it's not ME doing it it just feels... weird.. Maybe it has to do with my OCD and how I just don't like talking about ''future''#things in Certain Terms. Like if I was going to say ''Oh yeah sure. come over to my house in a few months''. I would have to follow it up#with like ''HOPEFULLY you can come over to my house in a few months'' or 'They'll come over in a few months MOST LIKELY''. Because just#stating that something will happen matter of factly takes for granted like.. what if somehting horrible happens and I DONT have a house#in a few months? or what if something bad happens to me. or to the person coming over? I can't ever DEFINITELY say with 100% certainty#that one could ACTUALLY come to my house in a few months. anything could change. So I have to allot for that in my phrasing. hbjjkn#There are a lot of situations where you're expected to just Assume Things but for some reason that bothers me. My brain literally does not#even Assume the most basic things.. like how do *I* know that just because it's someones birthday that they want to be wished a happy#birthday? what if they dont? everyone is different and has different preferences. I should check with them first. or wait until they public#ly announce that theyre accepting birthday wishes. I have to allot for all 5034859069 rare possibilities at any given time and never take#anything for certain. etc. ghjbjhbh.... ANYWAY.. I have been feeling a bit sick lately as usual.. but still slowly making progress on some#things. Moslty I need to edit costume photos. make sculptures. and work on the game. Going back reading some of the old writing from like#2018 and suprisingly I don't have to change that much of it? In fact I like it mostly. so that's good. I would be very interested if I were#playing the game myself. Though that doesnt mean much since my tastes are so niche lol..#Still really want to clear some of my million tumblr drafts as well... alas and aughh and ooughh and so on and so forth. Between all of my#evil appointments other such things...why cant I have one billion dollar to retire into relaxed hermit artist life of no stressors.. bleas
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I'm approaching the most terrifying part of the Exciting New Story Idea process: Writing it down.
#adventures in writing#maybe the best thing my inklings challenge experiences have taught me is that there are always more ideas#i don't have to pick one favorite story and then beat my head against it until i run out of time and pick something else in sheer panic#my favorite idea has reached the beating my head against it stage#once i started considering a fourth draft of the opening i recognized that i had entered the danger zone#which means it's time to step away and try something else#rather than wasting another week and a half at it#i can clear my head with a more straightforward idea#and then hopefully i'll be able to see a clear path with the original idea#instead of drowning in alternate possibilities#i do have a new idea that i love#but as per the above i worry it will lose all the magic the moment i try to jot down notes about it#my idea document was full of ideas that i loved at one point#but true to form when looking for an alternate idea i used none of them#and instead came up with a story sparked by the picture that happened to be the computer background at work#(though i did start by combining that picture with my idea for a story about someone trying to preserve the culture of a fallen/exiled land#(i just shifted it to a landscape i liked better than the antarctic ice land)#(and then as i added on more details the story shifted and has some nice layers to it)#(i've got a character type i've never written before so this could be fun if i can make it work)
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Misconception About Patton (SvS)
I think I've seen a lot of takeaways from this episode be that Patton pushed for what he wanted regardless of how the others felt. However, I believe this is ignoring first that he's a facet of c!Thomas and represents his core values and thus what Thomas ultimately believed was right as well, even if he wasn't happy about it.
Interesting quotes that I think get forgotten or removed from context about how SVS went down:
I find it interesting that people claim Patton manipulated the others, namely Roman. I dispute this because of the intent required for something to be manipulation vs misguiding someone and the word is thrown around carelessly. Janus, however, was the one to actually "manipulate" Roman to his advantage in the situation, and while you can justify it, I am simply pointing out that people do not get on his case as harshly for this thing they claim Patton did.
Patton is the product of c!Thomas's inner learned morality + his feelings, which makes the host as guilty as any of them for that representation of trying to break out of a learned mindset, which Patton is. He's changing as c!Thomas learns, and making mistakes such as not listening to the other parts of Thomas that may suggest he is not a perfect, "good" person by their original standards. Categorizing yourself as a "good" or "bad" person based on some scoring system is not something you want to do: people DO good and bad (and neutral) things, they aren't good or bad themselves.
Labeling yourself as "good" may just help you justify everything you do even when it's objectively bad because "well I'm a good person so this is good too". And labeling yourself (or others labeling you) as "bad" might just make you feel stuck and like you can never be anything more, and so you just become it with all your decisions. These are not the human experience. Nuance aside, everything is relative and you'll be picking apart every aspect of yourself trying to figure out "which you are".
Thomas is essentially trying to convince part of himself that it'd be okay to go against his morals for a beneficial reason. There was no right answer (going to the wedding or not) that would make everyone happy; Patton was doing what they asked and giving Thomas the moral answer based on c!Thomas's sincere priorities (like his friendships and being trustworthy).
(Pat's the emotional center AND the moral center of Thomas, which conflict more often than not, and are part of the reason this guy really struggled with separating the two while making his case-- he's unfortunately the holder of both.)
Where Patton was wrong was putting others first 100% of the time. Now, to be fair to Patton, he did agree that there are times when you should put yourself first, but they were circumstantial and in service to helping others more. This isn't healthy and is on the extreme end close to self harmful because you're prioritizing others even when you don't have the means to give, which can lead to burnout and neglect of yourself. The "opposite" end of this is only caring about your own means and using others as a means to an end. Both of these can lead to ruining your social and emotional connections to others.
And again, these are manifestations of the inner turmoil c!Thomas is having. These are his beliefs (read as "moral code") vs his wants battling it out and no matter what he settled on given the options, he'd have been unhappy. (note though: Roman did bring up simply asking Lee and Mary Lee about this directly and sometimes open communication is the best solution-- a lot of the time, actually)
At the end of the day in this part, Patton was defending c!Thomas ' character and relationships (which are important to them) while Janus wanted c!Thomas to not feel obligated to put his own goals behind the wants of others, especially with minimum benefit in both regards (Thomas's presence at the wedding was less impactful for them than the callback would have potentially been for Thomas, and it was a high Opportunity Cost).
Patton is essentially a representation of a religious upbringing sticking certain ideals in your core beliefs that even once you separate yourself from it, still for better or worse guide a lot about you. He's changing and evolving from that, and I do get why a character like this puts a bad taste in people's mouths and they associate him with that. That's entirely valid and I get it. This isn't about that-- I'm not over here arguing he did nothing wrong or that you can't hate him for whatever reason you want, that's not what I'm saying nor what I care about here-- I'm just clearing up what I've seen in canon versus how a majority neurodivergent fandom with certain life experiences might have warped the view of him in hindsight. This is not a malicious jerk trying to get his way and at the other extreme, he's not an innocent bean who wasn't ever in the wrong.
There ARE other examples of him pushing points associated with his roles and having to change throughout the series to this point. He just is the one looked at the hardest out of the sides (who all do this at some point in the series) because he's supposed to have all the answers when morality is one of the most difficult things you have to figure out in life. He didn't claim to have all the answers, but c!Thomas needs them from him to be the best person he can, and that will ultimately conflict and be more complicated than the black-and-white morality kids get taught and then have to alter as they grow up and see a complex world.
We all have to deal with that and it's uncomfortable to confront it. It manifesting in one character separate from yourself is easier than consolidating that that's a part of everyone, and one that isn't fun to examine all the time. I just really like how the show brings philosophies I studied into the next episode, but do think that a chunk of the audience did misunderstand / block out what Patton was actually saying/trying to do...I'm gonna rewatch the Redux episode and also keep an eye out for what people might be talking about when they specifically talk about his actions being problematic there, but I definitely believe the intent of this character (and how Thomas has presented him) does not get to the conclusion of him being willfully any more pushy or mistaken than the others at one point or another.
#patton sanders#ts patton#sanders sides analysis#it just pains me man#sanders sides#this is probably incoherent#i dont think i kept a linear train of thought but I am also in that neurodivergent crowd#i just really love all these characters and the genuine hatred I see for Patton just shocked me as far as in context for the show#outside the show IK ppl just don't like what he represents and that's chill#like and write about who/what you want#it's very cathartic#i'm just also gonna say something when people say it's supported by canon#and like-- i dont think we are watching the same series lolol#hopefully the finale clears some of it up#selfishness v selflessness
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#ok im making one more dot post and then i am (hopefully) getting off tumblr and going to bed#liam payne#death#i do suggest not reading tbh because its just gonna be waffle. anyways#ive distanced myself from the boys for years for a multitude of reasons. mainly that they did things that disappointed me and i realised the#way i was attatched to them was unhealthy. so for the most part i listened and enjoyed the music and didnt pay Much attention to anything#else. and like liam. i always liked him in the band days because to me he was the underdog. the underappreciated and probs less stanned one#out of all of them. and when youre a fan i do feel like a lot of us just wanted them all to be appreciated. idk. but anyways yeah i did feel#for him. due to him backgroud growing up. his talent. etc etc. even though he wasnt my fav. and even when he did something wrong my teenage#self still defended him like my life depended on it. (embarassing) anyways. his solo music while it was not my fav i still occasionally#enjoyed. its just over produced pop like it was fine and i found it fun. in terms of him as an actual person by this point in his career i#didnt pay attention to him or the others that much anymore#and like. yeah as of recently as more stuff came out about him being kinda weird and rude and abusive 🙃🙃🙃 that was kind of the final#straw for me! like in terms of me giving a fuck about him. if he eventually came around cool but i wasnt gonna wait around for it.#god this whole thing feels so dramatic but i need to get it oit or i Know i will not be at peace lmao anyways#so yeah come to hearing about his death which. i hear about because of trin lovell on twitter like. shsvshs. anyways my reaction was#disbelief and just... nothing? like i said in my brain i had just disregarded him honestly. and even now i still just feel speechless.#to summarise my feelings. fuck him for how he treated his ex and probably other women as well. but also. he was my boy. he'll always be a#part of me. and it feels weird that hes just. gone. he suffered a lot with addiction and pressures etc and its just. sad that hes gone now.#that he never got to get better. and he wont get the chance to. im sad for his family. and anyone else thats gonna be affected by this#im always gonna remember him.#and thats all i have to say. honestly part of me feels SO dramatic for even typing all this out but here we are.#if anyone has read this far and wants someone to talk to im more than happy. and also just wanna make clear that i am fine#le text post
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At first, I was just going to include their four big arguments, but I’m curious about how the other scenes and conflicts compare…
Vote however you like! For your favorite, or the one that would win in a meta-fight somehow, or the most disastrous, or the most Them…
more context for options:
Hume - does Lymond setting Will up to get himself arrested at Hume and swooping in as Don Luis count as a fight? Will gets beaten up, for sure, by the English and then hit in the face by his rescuer. It’s a conflict, even if it’s a one-sided and planned one. It’s an iconic moment in literature!
Lymond picks a fight about Will’s shoddy morals, and Will gets mad at him about Christian! And then Lymond gives him George Douglas’s letter about the hostage exchange. And tucks him into bed. I have thoughts about this scene!
Will secretly meets up with his father and walks into Richard and Janet’s trap. Johnnie gets him out but immediately tells Lymond what happened, and wow they have an argument. Incredible quotes about intentions and warm niches and quince seeds in cups of lukewarm water therein.
Will Scott wants to go to bed in his own bed! The door is locked! There’s a sword. There’s a fight. There’s a chance to take over …. And you will Never guess who wins!
Yes, he’s also mad about his dad being in danger. Lymond and Gideon run into an indignant Scott on the way back from Herriot. Gnatlike mockery and acrobatics ensue. “Get down!” “Make me?” … Brief but hilarious and fascinating to spectators. But there’s so little trust between them after all this, and what’s next is ….
… Betrayal! Pain! Symbolism! He hid the gold in the convent! Andrew Hunter has so much nerve! Turkey Mat is about to die! The narration gives us the final “marigold” of the book! Homoerotic wrestling!
“There is nothing very jolly about being locked in a cellar with a man whom, in every possible sense, you have just stabbed in the back.” THERE IS FOR ME!
#not sure if “context” is the right word there. Hopefully it’s clear which scenes I mean!#maybe I’ll just become the Will Scott poll person#I might follow this up with a second place version? Because picking a favorite is - for me - both easy and difficult#lymond#lymond chronicles spoilers#the game of kings#will scott#francis crawford#poll#something I#fine APPARENTLY tumblr doesn't want me to be able to reblog with a poll#this will have to do#lymond polls
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Happy Birthday, Max Way! 🥳
The cookie was delicious, albeit more sugary than I remembered that type of cookie being. 😂
@thegreenleavesofspring look, I celebrated Max's birthday! I was going to draw a motorcycle on the card but there wasn't a lot of space and it would've been fairly complicated. I really liked including the star, though.
#Max Way#SotS#Sons of the Star#character birthday#I wish I hadn't accidentally smudged the star but oh well#a card is a card and this wasn't a bad one by any means#the star and the cursive were fun to draw#plus the all capitals with the first letter “uppercase” for happy birthday and the date - that's not how I usually write#so it was fun to do something different#the picture looks slightly grainy while making this draft but hopefully it shows up crisp and clear bc it looked like that before#also yes I know that type of cookie is so bad for you but I really wanted one last weekend and didn't get one#and it was really satisfying to eat it just now#and my family can help eat the rest of them#story time in the tags
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