#homoerotic friendship 101

[acrosstobear]

LANDO’S DECLASSIFIED F1 SURVIVAL GUIDE HAPPY BIRTHDAY LANDO (13-11-99)

Tip #4: Bring your codependent bff around the world with you as your employee Tip #101: Develop a bunch of hobbies unrelated to racing and be incredibly annoying about them Tip #202: Charm the team so thoroughly that they become your family Tip #355: Form a seemingly homoerotic friendship with your teammate

[silasplaskett]

rewatched literally all of s4 of lok last night and the korrasami was so much more present than i remembered it being like they were in love!! it was so homoerotic friendship 101

[littlebabywille]

the stella of it all

all jokes aside, i personally clocked stella having a thing for fredrika from my first watch of season one. not because i was actively looking for queerness, but because this scene reminded me of a lot of homoerotic teen girl friendships.

basically, this scene is after august asks felice to go out with him and fredrika comments that she thinks it’s romantic. stella gets annoyed and storms off, then you see a peak into their dynamic (fredrika says “it’s always something” at one point).

the jealousy, the gatekeeping, codependency… it just felt to me that she got annoyed with fredika’s “it’s romantic” comment because she wanted her for herself.

just my personal interpretation, but i think it was subtly always there.. also hilarious to look back to see that she was literally wearing purple!!!

i loved that they confirmed it in season two.

[somucherry]

Show Recommendations Non-Thai BL:

A list of shows I’ve watched or am currently watching (Aka not including things I haven’t started yet) for @zouisalmightie 

China- The Untamed (50 Episodes, Netflix, Viki, WeTv):The series follows the adventures of two soulmate cultivators who travel to solve a series of mysteries that link to a tragic event in the past.  Plot heavy story, Lots of characters, due to Chinese censorship lots of homoerotic symbolism and subtext. The leads of the show sing the OST and it's beautiful, Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan are both members of Idol groups. Korea- Where Your Eyes Linger (9 Episodes, Youtube, VikiPass): The series follows a chaebol and his friend/unofficial bodyguard. This is one of Korea's first forays into BL series. It's short, but has decent pacing and plot.  Mr. Heart (9 Episode, Youtube, VikiPass): The series follows two boys, one that is training/running a marathon, and the other who is his pacemaker (helps him stay in the same pace). It's short, sweet and to the point. I'm really fond of one of the boys because he was on Produce X 101. Philippines- Gameboys (13 Episodes, Youtube): First Bl Drama to come from the Philippines. Follows a live-stream gamer and his fan—who found each other online during the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic and the Luzon Island community quarantine. This one is a bit cheesy at first but does get better, it is however a little bit sad (TW. a death due the pandemic, not the leads.) A season 2 is in the works. Hello Stranger (8 Episodes, Youtube): Amidst the lockdowns due to the COVID-19 pandemic, two college boys cross paths for a school project. Jock/Nerd Trope/Hate to Love. I actually enjoyed this one more than Gameboys, but I'm in the minority I think. The leads have amazing chemistry (or kilig in Tagalog). A movie is in the works. 

In Between (14 Episodes, Youtube): The most important part in a relationship is not the hello or the goodbye but the In Between.  This is about the boys' love (BL) story of Taurus and Otep. Friends to Lovers Trope. While the show is mean’t to be about Taurus/Otep I actually fell in love with the sidestory of Ronin and Makisig more. And I was disappointed that in the end we didn’t get really much of anything for them (unless there’s a planned season 2 that I somehow missed knowing about.) 

My Day (11/14 Episodes, (Airing Currently), Youtube): A romantic comedy series about a young determined culinary intern named Sky making his way into a multi-billion-dollar food company and his boss Ace. Some of this show didn't really hit the mark ie. the writing was very lacking amongst other issues for me but I'm sticking it out because the leads have amazing chemistry and I'm glad I did because it has one of the best intimate scenes that has come from a show this year. (I'm still very much not over it) Quaranthings (7/8 Episodes, (Airing Currently), Youtube): follows the friendship of two boys, and the love that will blossom between them while on community quarantine. Roommates to Lovers Trope. I'm really enjoying this drama even though it makes me want to bang my head on the wall, Judah's character irritates me (also in the minority here). GAYA SA PELIKULA aka Like in the Movies (5/8 Episodes, (Airing Currently), Youtube):  tells us about Karl, a 19-year-old recluse architecture student in the middle of an identity crisis and his new roommate. This just started so I don't have much thoughts about this one so far, but it's been decent.

I have other BL’s I would include but I wasn’t sure if you’ve already seen them (Skam, Yuri on Ice, american BL’s Etc.) I also plan on doing a post about Thai BL’s but there’s to many to include on this post. 

[fluentisonus]

the more I hear about catullus the more I want to read him- where would you recommend I start?

hello friend!!

so the great news is you can start at the very beginning if you like! there’s only 116 catullus poems that exist, and many of them are not very long (this was on purpose – he was part of a set of poets called the novi poetae (”new poets”) who valued quality and wit over length and grand themes). all his poems are easy to find online in multiple translations (if you want a line by line latin comparison I’d recommend vroma) – unfortunately I can’t say I have a favorite translation per se but for the most part they’re all reasonably good ones.

however!! if you want some of my favorite poems to start off with: 

catullus 1 – sets the tone! a witty and playful introduction for the book and dedication to a friend

catullus 5 –this one’s a classic, but always a good one; a love poem involving lots and lots of kisses

catullus 8 – this one’s a little nasty but it’s classic catullus, the shifts in mood go along with the shifts in tense and the shifts in address to create a sense of immediateness and changing emotions even though it’s  thoughtfully structured and written

catullus 12 – this is a funny one; it’s a rude reply to a napkin thief who catullus threatens with poetry

catullus 50 – a homoerotic friendship poem about writing poetry; I really like this one

catullus 51 – a loose translation of sappho 31, with catullus’ own feelings incorporated in, really neat example of intertextuality!

catullus 68 – okay. this is a long one but it’s very beautiful, particularly the descriptions of grief and the shipwreck imagery

catullus 85 – possibly his most famous poem - very brief but carries a lot of feeling / angst 

catullus 101 – a very sad one mourning his brother’s death; probably my favorite catullus poem ever

catullus 109 – this one’s almost the inverse of catullus 50; it’s a love poem with friendship (and even political) language built in which is a really interesting angle to take writing a love poem to a woman

there’s plenty more good ones, but those are the favorites that spring to mind!

beyond the poems themselves, if you’d like to know more about catullus or his poetry there’s a number of commentaries you can find. just reading though the wikipedia page on his life is never a bad place to start for basic details, but if you know latin the one I’ve been using which has been pretty good is catullus: the poems edited by kenneth quinn. sadly I’m less sure of a good commentary that’s done in english. 

I have lots to say about catullus so if you have any other questions feel free to ask!

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Somebody can and should write an academic paper on the homoerotic nature of Gary and Avocato's friendship.

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I know that Olan and the crew have no control over scheduling, but it's a strange sort of cosmic coincidence that the episode that ends with a set of siblings tragically being separated aired the same day as Siblings Day.

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How we feelin’ animation fans? 😭

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Can’t believe after Sunday John and Jordan are gonna go back to different clubs and we won’t get anymore of this content and I’m just supposed to be fine???

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Seriously though, we all say Jack is the biggest slut but…no, it’s definitely John. He’s got it going with Jack and has the most homoerotic friendship with Kyle, but he’s doing all this to make Rúben jealous, and potentially also Leroy who probably won’t ever move on from how fruity John was with him. He even manages to be flirty with Pickford who I think would lamp anyone else who tried it on with him. John is his special exception. John is on a gay rampage, John is unstoppable.

SHOW ME A MAN JOHN WON’T FLIRT WITH

HE DOESN’T EXIST

Like John, babe, what IS this

Jack is the sluttiest of sluts and John is the boy who makes everyone question if they are bi, both energies in one team is

✨Everything✨

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[kihyunswrath]

“Unsuccessful” girl idols

I’ve been wanting to break this topic down for years and I feel like I’m still not quite done with my own thought process, but I thought right now could be a good time to at least slightly graze the theme (ok that phrasing sounded awful but you get the idea?? I guess?), what with so many kpop girl groups disbanding and, Idk there’s been a lot of talk about this over the years but no one seems interested enough to search the roots of it.

So here are the two main premises people keep kinda copy-pasting all the time all over the internet: 1) “Girl groups just bore/annoy me to death and they all just twerk their tiny asses in high heels and they are so unoriginal” and 2) “Boy groups do just as sexy stuff as them so stfu, it’s such a hypocritical sexist thing to not support the girl groups too, you only drool after your oppars and forgive all their misbehavior because you hate women”.

And honestly that’s where the discussion mostly ends. I haven’t heard or seen anyone talk much more about the topic even though I feel like that’s just about 0.5% of the whole discourse that should be brought to daylight. This whole phenomenon is strongly linked to Korean popular culture and how Korean music companies treats their employees and how they, as a moneymaking Korean-made industry, wants to be represented in front of the foreign audience... and it should be pretty clear how important it is to understand the details and the whole picture of this big system, if you really want to tackle down issues such as sexism and misogyny in it.

Idk but it feels so weird to me how few fans have actually realized how sexist kpop music industry is by nature, by the very definition, and how it has its roots deep in Korean conservative political ideology, heck, even Confucianism itself. And like... if you call yourself a feminist or anywhere close that term, you should be actively resisting pretty much everything both kpop and kdramas has to offer. 

Kpop is capitalist and conservationist as hell, and that’s p much my main statement here. 

The point in these idol groups is to market and rebrand South Korea as a fresh, young, talented, clean, nicely organized, sexy, vibrant and colourful country fully capable of taking the global trade into its own hands. It sells the capitalist ideology where wealthy, beautiful and racially/economically/socially/religiously homogeneous people work together to create welfare. Intl fans typically only see the surface of it, aka the music videos and the dramas themselves, but the fact is that all idols do much more than that - they’re the ambassadors of their own country, selling products after products with their own names and faces printed on them. Cars, phones, cosmetics, plastic surgery, laptops, games, toys, food, beverages, you name it. And of course they sell their own products, too. 

They’re not there to challenge any status quos, to break down any hegemonies. Korean men wearing makeup and showing their flawless skin may seem “radical” to western people who are used to cavemen-like masculinity ideals at first glance, but silky, pale skin has always been just a sign of wealth, health and cleanliness in Korea (and many other Asian country), and there’s nothing more groundbreaking in that. Korean same-sex friends showing skinship has never had anything to do with gay culture and Korean groups being aware of this eroticization of their friendships still has nothing to do with gay culture. It’s just a clever marketing tactic that stems from the problematic fact that fans (mostly straight people idolizing someone from opposite sex) rather see their favourite idols with their same-sex bandmember than live in acceptance with the fact that their crushes would end up with someone else than the fans themselves. That feels less like a “betrayal” to you if they end up being gay and having a relationship with the bandmember you most likely also admire, than choosing someone random you can have no control over. And yes, as a sidenote, these groups and their companies are fully aware of skinship and mildly homosexual (but still not quite) content being a factor that creates them more fans and more money. For the same reason, since day one Korean culture has divided performance and entertainment groups by their sex - women and men have always performed separately, throughout history, because it’s presumably easier to avoid actual romantic relationships that way. Homoerotic stuff kinda doesn’t count, at least not officially. Also, kpop groups are strictly divided because the industry really treats them as separate entities, separate ranks, much like a sex binary itself. 

So, Korean ideals and standards are literally ingrained into Korean popular culture. They’re not any less sexist than any other capitalist industry you have ever met before. In fact, they’re blatantly much more sexist than many others, just because it sells in so many audiences who consume this kind of stuff. Did you know, that there was a research done in the countries that consume kpop and kdrama the most (many of them are East-Asian, Middle-Eastern, South-Asian and African countries, like India, Iran etc.), and a common reason for them to stay as fans was basically because “kdramas uphold the traditional familial values, just with fashionable rebranding - like men are treating women so nicely and still were so hot and masculine”? So if you think Korean idol groups should be treated more equally among the fans, you’re asking for something that was never even supposed to be there.

Let’s face it: kpop girl groups are given half-assed songs, half-assed choreographies, half-assed concepts, half-assed attention and effort, and neither the fans nor the girl group members themselves are to be blamed. And if not everything they do is half-assed, about 60% is. Compared to the about 40-50% of boy groups’ half-assed stuff, because we all know kpop is also based on unoriginal mass-copying of the same stuff. Mass production, repetition and weak-willed composing is not only part of the capitalist ideology, but also the way to Korean soft power to work their way through; because of the Confucian tradition, you’re not supposed to present new ideas but just follow what your employers tell you to do. 

So girl groups are given shitty and weak concepts with either overtly cute and infantilizing clothing and choreographies, or overtly sexy stuff. Why? Because they’re treated as objects and children. They’re supposed to stand cutely in front of you, letting you have a peek on their long, smooth legs while they wear the smallest mini-skirts ever seen.

They’re sex objects for pedophiles. Just look at Production 101 Pick me up song and see 101 girls wearing school uniforms while they, without real identities or visible personalities, dance sexily to the audience. They did have the same concept with boys, one year later, which was maybe the first time ever such objectification was also projected on males, but those boys at least didn’t let anyone have see what was under their skirts.

Girl group choreographies look bland to many fans because they’re not supposed to show great talent or skill (even though all these beautiful, hardworking women could slay us with all their personal talents) - they’re just supposed to look pretty and do cutesy movements in front of the cameras. It took me a long time to realize why there was such a huge difference in difficulty when you compared boy group choreographies to girl group choreographies. It wasn’t just my imagination and it wasn’t just because me, as a straight person grown up under patriarchal society, was more inclined to recognize men’s talent and ignore everything women did. They do assume I do just that, though. They do assume male and female gaze are different, and that makes them believe boy groups not only are able, but have to perform more difficult things. Girls can focus on singing and shaking their butts - that’s the stereotype. Girls “can’t” do the same stuff, because they’re “weaker” and “less talented in general”, but they can show their butt more, because oh don’t the male fans just love it. Girls are of course also given backlash because of that, but in the end it doesn’t really matter, because sex, porn, eroticism and traditionally feminine assets sell. With all of their connotations of feminine weakness, fragility (skinny bodies) and submissiveness.

Yes, I do acknowledge that in kpop, male bodies are also very much objectified, and I do know that some girl groups are also sharing their stances on female empowerment, and even feminism. 

But when these boy groups are already in position of power, their actions are deemed worthy nonetheless. Girl groups, on the other hand, not only face the sexist double standard, also have to fight with the fact that they are not given as much space, opportunities, attention and, what’s relevant in this topic, effort as the boy groups. 

So when some fans complain about girl groups, they might mean that they in general have internalized the misogyny and don’t want to acknowledge anything these talented, hard-working female idols have done. But they might, perhaps unknowingly, also protest and dislike the idea where these girls are deemed less worthy, are flattened to mere sex objects spreading their legs in front of the cameras, doing it much more often and in much more concepts/music videos than boy groups altogether. Because it’s true. 

And that’s not because these girls haven’t worked just as hard as any other boy idol. But it’s because they are not given the chance to show their real capabilities, their real competence, their actual wide variety of skills.

So yes, so many of the girl group music videos I watch only remind me of how cheaply Korean music industry treats these wonderful women. Watching them is not pleasurable, because it also reminds me of how tight are the standards I should be able to fit into to please this so-called male gaze. It reminds me of my own oppression as a woman.  

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Ok so that was all for today, maybe I’ll talk about it more someday. I don’t feel like checking this for typos and other pathetic non-English speaker mistakes but I hope the main point gets through.

[saportapotty]

The Sparlie Masterpost

Sparlie is the ship between me and Tumblr user @idratherberyanross so if you're not Charlie or one of our dedicated shippers ignore this post which is just a list of all our homoerotic memories in (somewhat) chronological order • me hating Charlie for the beginning of our friendship • "pigs are my favorite animal" "no they're mine" "well i got a flying pig in wizard 101 also my room is pink so fuck you" • the double-slappa-handa-tron • we're gonna slow it down for this next one.. everyone pull that special someone close... "I wanna see your peacock" • literally bonding over nickelback at the rodeo and that's how we became friends??? what kinda goals????? • sneaking into a private event to give grown men fake flowers • getting asked to stay at the private event and offered free food??????????? • getting into a legitimate fight over who could draw someone smelling a chicken better in savs class • "how was jiu jitsu?" • self insert fanfics for every interest we've ever had • munchies..... need I say more? • you're giving me a thorgasm • stalker boxes • literally that entire semester where we spent all of pottery class huddling around Sam and Diego's shelf leaving them weird magazine clippings • thriving off of hugs from all the cute upperclassmen • the fake glasses we never took off • Javier from the library • g/g/b isn't even good live unless we make out at least once • that time at the panic concert "how many edibles is too many edibles?" "no such thing" • objectifying brendon urie at fiddlers (i never want to repeat the things that were said that night) • "I love you more than i love frank iero" "I love you more than I love Ryan ross" • playing just dance for literal hours • my dad shitting on our rock band skills • "I'm sober" *starts sobbing* • streaking in the skate park in the middle of the night to be cryptid • smoking weed out of a monster can • "how much vanilla extract would it take to get drunk?" "let's find out" • when Charlie called me ugly at pride and i lost it • trying too hard to take aesthetic pictures • feeding Charlie sausage with chunks of plastic in it • charlie: *picks up any food* me: does that have nuts in it?? • losing our minds whenever how you remind me is on the speakers at a concert • already planning our apartment in Seattle • straight up only talking about one direction for three years • drinking geoff wigington's water and being wayyyyy too into it • sending each other fanfic when we don't have wifi • charlie making everyone think i like my little pony That's all I've got off the top of my head if you're Charlie or someone who knows us irl add to this I'm begging you