#hobie brown 616

[rappaccini]

yes ok fine i have my gwobie shipping goggles on but i can't get over how asm 93's title sounds like a gothic romance novel or kooky 1960s creature feature b-movie. "the lady and the prowler." come on now. you're gonna name it that and expect me to root for the boyfriend and not the mysterious villain in the cloak and mask who's the only person validating the heroine's completely legit anxieties, trying to redeem himself by saving her from her doomed fate and is shooting at her crappy boyfriend the whole time?

[milesmorales99]

Spider-Society #1 Preview issue out Wednesday August 14

[letter-22]

HEY GUYS I JUST FOUND OUT THAT HOBIE IS PROWLER IN THE ORIGINAL 616 UNIVERSE?????

now i'm personally not a big punkflower shipper but you could DEFINITELY go somewhere with this.

[v4guelyv4mpiric]

i think 616 hobie and 138 hobie should interact, but i want 616 hobie to have an american accent. and also be like 30 years old.

like imagine you're the prowler, and this punk ass kid with the most cockney accent you've ever heard turns out to be you in a different dimension

[mostsanescarletspiderfan]

Some of the things I hate the most in comics are characters who are time/universe displaced.

These types of things happen because of popularity and making it so that they are stuck in a place, still, I'm not fond of the trope when there are better alternatives.

(DC universe: legacies #2).

Originally 2 of the founders of the seven soldiers of victory were Oliver Queen and Roy Harper, better known as green arrow and speedy. But here's the catch, since they didn't have a Alan Scott/Hall Jordan situation DC would often change the line up to not involve the archers... That is until 2021 with the stargirl spring break special where they reveal they got sent back in time by clock king and where the golden age heroes.

The previous solution was good or alternatively pulling an All-stars wouldn't be bad I think, hell @the-antiapocalyptic-man take on how a golden age green arrow would be is pretty cool.

Usually with these types of things DC easily solves with merging universes with yeah it works like 80% of the time.

Another character that fits the bill is power girl, I'm not a big fan of her (not that the character isn't great, it's just that I'm focusing on other heroes) but her history is intertwined with her "younger" counterpart in ways that honestly hurt both characters.

She is both an unfortunate outcome of editorial mandates and amazing writing.

From the other beast that dominates the comic book industry you have Miles Morales and... Oh boi.

I have a love and hate relationship with him, I get why he is here but more than anything I'm frustrated about marvel inability to actually commit to the decision, one day he remembers he is from another universe and the other he doesn't so what is it? Oh and also while we are at it his 616 origin sucks and I fucking hate Aaron.

(I think a cool version of 616 miles would be him being the son of one of those 7 unnamed Brothers of Hobie, he is also a mutant and would take on the mantle of prowler after his uncle retires or something).

Now the main reason I made this post is Bart Allen, don't get me wrong I like all these superheroes and enjoy their displaced nature but what happens when Bart ages? Is he still gonna exist when parents are born? Obviously none of these questions are gonna be answered because these characters are never gonna age, even if it's there's an ongoing plot for it.

Oh and don't get me started Scott Summers and his panteon of children from apocalyptic futures.

Anyway sorry for the long rant about me being racist agonist fictional people from other dimensions.

[eridanisanenby]

HOLD UP ONE SEC. I’m almost definite not the first person to realize this but earth 42 Miles is the Prowler and so people think that the third movie is going to be about how similar Spider-man and the Prowler are. And do you know who 616 Prowler is. FUCKING HOBIE BROWN. Also on that note how cool would it be if in the third movie we see different versions of the Prowler like how we saw versions of Spider-man and we saw Hobie brown E616

[marveltournaments]

[scarletspider2the2ndpower]

Variant cover for Clone Conspiracy (Vol. 1/2016), #5 by Mark Bagley.

[hellomystraightlacedfriend]

What if we were both boys...and we started a coup...just kidding!...unless? 👉👈

[rappaccini]

... ok very specific theory about how to best use spider-punk to solidify hobie brown's future variants.

first off for context, hobie brown was the first black guy to 'be' spider-man, but that lasted one issue. the guy was given so much intentional paralleling to peter. they're smart, they're engineering whizzes who create the same kind of wrist-tool, they're perpetually broke, they keep fucking up their lives, they date the same kind of girl at the same time, they become vigilantes at first because of selfishness, a loved one being killed by preventable violence prompts them to put the mask back on. then hobie gets the opportunity to put on the spider-mantle when peter's indisposed, and he... never gets to again. marvel was raising the possibility of a black guy becoming the second spider-man after peter as early as the 1970s (... and the idea of him getting gwen away from her role of peter's doomed girlfriend), but in the end miles was the one to get there and stick around.

hobie was otherwise the original prowler for about four decades. and not so coincidentally, miles's uncle aaron took that prowler mantle when miles was created. it was a very subtle reference to how miles owes his creation in part to hobie; in a meta sense, hobie brown is the narrative ancestor of miles morales. hobie lit the torch, miles ran with it.

(... and now the spiderverse movies are putting miles into that narrative of 'you should've been the prowler, but became spider-man by mistake.' which is spider-punk's metanarrative. they're still borrowing from hobie.)

so hobie kinda had nothing for a while. he couldn't be the prowler, because aaron davis was the far more well-known prowler. he couldn't become a spider-man, because that was miles. (even the connection with gwen ended up getting handed to miles in atsv. like... ok what's going on here, writers. why are we eating hobie's lunch).

marvel tried to relaunch him as the new hornet, but that didn't really take. the hornet still heavily resembles the classic prowler, still uses all the same powers and gadgets, and he's right back to being vaguely shady but sometimes on the right side of the fight. no one can tell the hornet apart from the prowler, so everyone will prefer aaron. so hobie seemed doomed to obscurity.

then spider-punk happened, which is phenomenal. being spider-punk answered that question of what would happen if hobie got to stay being spider-man, and created a fantastic payoff where hobie gets his own world where he's the protagonist... but he was a d-list hero from a very specific alternate world who had a suicidal urge written into his character to justify being killed off in a future spiderverse event. they did not intend for him to stick around.

... but thanks to atsv making him the breakout character, spider-punk is the main hobie everyone knows, which means that impression's going to stick. when you say "hobie brown," people think 'spider-punk' instead of 'prowler,' 'hornet,' or 'spider-man for one issue.' marvel won't get rid of that. spider-punk's going to be a mainstay of spiderverse events forever and if he's killed off he'll inevitably be brought back. he's safe.

spider-punk is set. hobie brown is not.

being a spider-person isn't very adaptable outside of that specific context. there are only so many spider-heroes that are going to land in your story, and punk occupies such a specific niche that it's just never gonna be him. he's too difficult to work into the story if it isn't a spiderverse one, and no writer will ever choose him over miles when creating a second spider man narrative.

so here's the conundrum: hobie brown is so entrenched within spider-man's supporting cast that he can only appear in spider-man stories. but he will never be the prowler again. he'll never be the second spider-man at all. he can only be spider-punk in special settings that don't come up often. the only way he can reliably stick around is as the hornet, but nobody cares about the hornet and the hornet is too easy to confuse with the prowler.

... but. people love hobie's punk aesthetic and personality, and that can easily be incorporated into any setting. so apply it to the hornet.

the hornet already needed a redesign so he can't be confused with the prowler anymore, so give him one that makes him look punk (... hornets sting. giving him some spikes makes sense). take the anticapitalist origins of hobie's prowler, infuse them with spider-punk's politics, and make that the hornet's new motivation. combine spider-punk's desire to do good with the prowler's tendency to act on short-sighted plans that hurt people because he wants direct results, and you have a very compelling antihero who can be as much of an ally as he is an obstacle depending on the situation. you even have the beginnings of a redemption arc if you want to make him an antivillain to start.

just don't give him spider-powers and there you go: he's spider-punk in all but name, which means you have a workaround to keep hobie's new personality intact while allowing him to participate in more spider-man stories again.

if marvel were smart, in future spider-person continuities that can't use spider-punk (which will be most of them), they should start introducing hobie brown as the hornet, an antihero with a punk aesthetic and philosophy who often butts heads with the hero and causes trouble pursuing his goals but generally is on the right side of things. god knows marvel loves a 'well-intentioned activist who Goes Too Far and becomes a villain.'

[eternalgirlscout]

thinking about how hobie brown in the 616 is the original prowler, and spider-punk's inclusion in across the spiderverse--among the dozen other amazing things he brings to the movie--is foreshadowing that being spider-man or the prowler is a coin flip of fate

[luimnigh]

Another little detail I loved in Across The Spiderverse is how Hobie Brown spends basically most of his screentime trying, and succeeding, to mentor Miles.

See, Hobie Brown did not originate with the Spider-Punk identity. There is a Hobie Brown in the main 616 universe in the comics.

He's a hero and long-time ally of Spider-Man, and has even had a few comics series of his own.

He's called The Prowler.

It seems in each movie, Miles learns from The Prowler.

[dollsque]

❤️‍🔥 ❝ Don’t You See The Way He Looks At You? ❞

❥ Word Count: 1.8k

❥ Short Summary: Peter B. Parker (Earth-616) talks you into confessing to Hobie and reassures you that he loves you back.

❥ Notes: Fluff, Y/N used sparingly, no mention of gender, one-shot, sfw

❥ Masterlist Here <3

🏹 ˚₊ · »-♡→ YOU WERE SITTING AT one of the lunch tables in the Spider Society and eating a Miguel O’Hara burger when you heard a familiar laugh in the distance. Your friend, Hobie Brown, was standing further down with his best friends Pavitr and Gwen. Your stare lingered at him, as usual.

You had been itching to confess to him. You guys had been friends ever since you guys joined the Spider Society, which had been a very long time ago. You two were inseparable, and you guys managed to create so much chemistry that anyone would’ve believed that you two were friends even before you joined the Spider Society—if that was possible.

You were snapped out of your thoughts by someone familiar sitting next to you, and that was Peter from Earth-616. He gave you a warm smile in acknowledgment, and Mayday cooed at the sight of you finally noticing them.

“Hello, Mayday,” you smiled, letting her small hand wrap around your finger. “Hey, Peter.”

“Hey. I noticed you were a little out of it. Something happen?” He questioned. He and you both know why you were out of it; he just wanted you to admit it. It was only a matter of time before one of you said something to him, and it would’ve most likely been you instead of Hobie.

“Yes, it’s about Hobie,” you answered to his nonverbal question. Peter could only hum softly in response. He seemed to be pondering about something; possibly the right way to go about this.

“Well,” he began, “what’s stopping you?”

“What?”

“Don’t play dumb with me. I’m getting old; I’ve seen it all,” Peter chuckled softly with some sort of glint in his eyes.

“You’re just turning 40. You’re middle-aged.”

“Some people consider that old.” Peter shrugged.

“You’re taking that in stride. Usually, people would interpret it as having a ‘midlife crisis’.” You pointed out with a playful smirk.

“I got a loving wife and an adorable baby. I don’t think life could be any better,” Peter smiled proudly as he patted Mayday’s head which earned a giggle out of her. “Back on topic, though. You can’t distract me.”

You sighed and scratched your nail softly against the table’s surface. “I don’t know. I just…can’t.”

“You can’t? Or you’re scared?” Peter questioned, propping his head up with his elbow on the table.

“Both, I suppose.” His silence and the curiosity in his eyes signaled for you to go on.

“He had always called me his best friend, and vice versa. Hell, he even told others that we were merely platonic; that’s all. Why would I risk breaking our bond over something so silly? Why should I confess when I know he doesn’t like me back?” You frowned as you picked up a fry, mindlessly stirring the tip of it around in the poured ketchup on your plate.

“Because you don’t,” Peter answered simply. When you raised an eyebrow at him in confusion and even a bit of surprise, he continued.

“Have you seen the way he looks at you, Y/N?” Peter questioned rhetorically. “I do,” he continued.

“Actions may speak louder than words, but eyes show more than actions. There’s just this love and passion—this fiery passion in his eyes when he looks at you. He looks at you like you’re one of the most precious people in his life. He looks at you like he’d protect you from the world, even though he knows you can fend for yourself. The way he looks at you? That’s love.” He paused, looking at the hope, yet doubt, in your eyes.

“I used to look at M.J. the same way when I fell in love with her. I still do,” he chuckled warmly at the thought, softly combing his little girl’s hair with his fingers. “I would know.”

Hobie looks past Gwen and Pavitr for a second and spots you. He didn't even seem to notice Peter yet and gave you a warm smile with this soft look in his eyes; he even turned pink for a moment with a subtle pink heart that you managed to notice.

It was gone as quickly as it appeared, though.

After you smiled back, he averted his eyes back to his friends.

That small moment between you two was when you finally saw a glimpse of what Peter was talking about.

“You see that?” Peter asked.

You nod.

“Besides that warm, loving smile and the fact that he literally turned a cute shade of pink with a pink, paper, heart floating around him for a split second, you can see the softness in his eyes. The way he looks at you is surreal, and yet you’re so worried about the wrong things that you can’t see the right ones.”

You considered his words, slightly frowning while looking down at the table. Maybe he was right.

“However, he shares the same fear as you. I could see it in his eyes sometimes. He loves you, but he’s scared of the fact he loves you, just like you’re scared of the fact that you love him.” His words caused you to look up at him.

“I’m telling you, kid, you two are just two lovers who are scared of breaking the bond that you so desperately hold onto because you think that it’s all that’s going to be as close to a relationship as it gets, but you guys could be so much more. That boy loves you, and I can tell that you love him back just as much.”

“However, I can’t make you confess to him. The rest is up to you. I’m just an old, 40-year-old, mentor.” He smirked, taking a mischievous sip of his soda.

Peter was right; one of you had to make a move, and it definitely wouldn’t be Peter. It was down to you and Hobie, and you decided that it would be you who would make the move.

🏹 ˚₊ · »-♡→ YOU’RE ALREADY STARTING TO rethink your decisions as you walked side-by-side with your best friend, your arms bumping each other’s every once in a while. You guys talked and talked for a while, and eventually you guys perched yourselves off an empty platform that was higher up and more isolated from other Spider Society members.

You two were sitting in comfortable silence, not talking to each other much and just existing in each other’s proximity as he strung his electric guitar and as you watched all the other Spider-People do their own things or chatter with others below. You slightly gripped the edge, preparing to confess—preparing for the worst.

“Hobie?”

“Hmm?” Your nervous tone caught his attention, and he tilted his head up slightly as he continued looking at the strings he strung.

God, how do you say this without it being so damn obvious? With all the overthinking you did, you would’ve thought you were heavily prepared for this, but apparently not.

“I’m really thankful for you, and thankful that you’ve been my friend for so long—”

“Bloody hell, are you about to go on a suicide mission that Miguel assigned to you or somethin’?”

“What—no!” You replied, feigning a frown and playfully smacking him. “Let me finish, will you?”

“Alright, alright, continue.”

You looked down discreetly and saw Peter looking up at you two with a bright, encouraging smile and two thumbs up. Mayday struggled to mimic his hand gesture, but she got it anyway, and you smiled down at the both of them before you continued.

“As I was saying,” you began, taking a small inhale and exhale. “I really hope this doesn’t ruin things between us, but…”

Now Hobie’s concerned. “Is something wrong?” He interrupted, once again.

“No, no. It’s just—could you please…just…”

“Right, right, sorry.” He nodded as he silently promised to keep his mouth shut until you were finally done speaking.

“We’ve been friends for a while and…”

Hobie’s heart stopped, then started thumping slightly harder.

“…I liked you for a really long time. I was really scared to tell you, because what we had was already great and so…real. I didn’t want to ruin that, and I never would have forgiven myself if I did. But…”

You smiled warmly at the thought of Peter.

“Someone encouraged me, told me that I should make a move; he told me that I shouldn’t be so afraid. So, that’s what I decided to do—tell you how I felt. It feels good to get it off my shoulders no matter what your answer is. I just wanted to let you know.

Hobie looked at you, and you saw shock. However, you saw the very same look Peter told you he saw whenever he looked at you; love. Love, and passion. You could only look at him the same way.

“I’ve waited so long for you to say that,” he began with a breathless, soft laugh. “I waited so long to be able to tell you the same thing.”

He then smirked and nudged you slightly the side of his upper half. “Thank God you said something, because I’m not sure if would’ve been able to. Thank God for the person who convinced you as well. Lord, almighty.”

“Oh, c’mon, we were having a moment,” you snorted at his antics.

“Who was our knight and shining armor, hmmm?” He questioned, still keeping that smirk on his face.

“Peter—”

“Which one?” he interrupted, causing you to give him a playful, deadpanned look.

“What? There’s hundreds of ‘em.” He shrugged.

“The one with a baby. Mayday?”

“Ah, humbling reality Spider-Man?” He questioned with feigned awe.

“Oh, shut up,” you laughed. Hobie laughed along and you two shared a laugh for a while. Hobie found himself scooting closer to you until you guys were touching. He then made a move of his own and placed his hand on top of yours.

“Well,” he began, sighing dramatically, looking off into the distance. He then looked back at you with a sincere, warm smile and the lovesick look in his eyes. He even turned pink again for a split moment, and this time there were more pink, paper, hearts floating around him. You almost wanted to touch one of them to see if they were real paper. They were gone quickly though, but not his expression.

“I like you too. Love you, even.”

You smile warmly back at him.

“I love you too.”

♡♡♡

“See? What’d I tell you?” Peter asked, looking down at Mayday, who’s in her baby carrier, with a proud smile. “Your dad’s multi-talented. He can save the city, be the best mentor, AND be an amazing wingman.”

Mayday laughed and reached her hand up so that he could give her palm a kiss, which he gladly did. “Now, how about we go for another burger? I’m pretty hungry.”

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[aaronymous999]

Y’know, I’m appreciating the abundance of Spider-Sona tag games recently- so I’m gonna be making my own here! Only 10 questions because I don’t want to go too wild with this one- or else we’d be here all day!

Spider-Sona 10 Questions!

What artstyle is your Spider-Sona’s world? ( For example, Gwen’s world is watercolor, Hobie’s world is inspired by punk art and punk album covers, etc. be creative! )

Do any characters that appear in the 616 or 1610 universes appear in your Spider-Sona’s world? If so, who and how are their roles different? ( For example, if Hobie Brown is in your universe, is he still the Prowler? Is Peter Parker in your universe? )

Is there a specific species of spider your Spider-Sona was bitten by, or was based off of? ( Can’t think of any specific canon examples here- but I’ve seen a lot of Spider-Sonas based off wolf spiders for example! )

What city and what time period does your Spider-Sona live in?

Is your Spider-Sona in the Spider Society? Were they ever asked to join but declined? Were they not scouted at all? Did they join and then quit? Tell me all about it!

Does your Spider-Sona have organic webbing, or do they use web-shooters? Mix of both? And is their webbing typical spider webbing, or does it have a style to it? ( For example, Miguel’s webbing being red and presumably digital. )

Very important question here- do they have any pets? And if so, do they ever take them out on their crime fighting missions?

Are they the only Spider-Person in their universe? ( For example, Miles and Peter co-existing in the Insomniac Games )

Are there things that exist in their universe but don’t in others? ( For example, Comic Con existing in Miles-42’s universe but not in 1610 Miles’s! Or certain Marvel superheroes existing in their universe but not others. )

And lastly ( For now will probably make a few more of these… honestly I could make one daily but I don’t wanna bother people lol ) what does your Spider-Sona think about killing criminals… and their general approach to crime.

Okay and that’s a wrap for this one! Let me know if you want more of these and how frequently you’d like them! If you aren’t tagged, you can still absolutely do this by the way, just gonna tag a few mutuals and people I follow who I know have Spider-Sona’s! Please let me know if you would not like to be tagged in the future- no hard feelings I’m just autistic and need things to be spelled out bluntly for me!

@spidey-bie @the-cat-and-the-birdie @brown-spider @autisticarach

( You know actually I don’t follow a ton of Spider-Sona blogs so if you come across this post and would LIKE to be tagged in future tag games please let me know in the reblogs or the replies! )

[silent-raven13]

Hey Miles! What's your type?

Miles looks at his friends, "Hmm?"

"What's your type?" Gwen asked, "Like what do you see yourself with?"

Pavtri nodded, "Yeah, what kind of boy or girl you like?" Hobie stood listening them, his whole body turning into a curious colors; like soft green, bright yellow and gray with magazine and newspaper prints all over with symbols of curiosity fonts, and imagery.

"Hmm, I always did like girls like Gwen; smart, funny, serious, and vulnerable like good way. Like shows her sensitive side, I guess..." Miles explains about the girls he dated being similar to his old crush, Gwen. This got Gwen blushing so hard her face turns tomato red.

"Awe, love you too, man!" She plays off her blushing as she pats harshly on her friend's back. The two did like each other at one point, but it was at the wrong time. She needed to heal herself before getting involved in a serious relationship. Miles needs to deal with his own traumas and wanted the Spider people he was close to, to gain back his trust. So, they never went for it and slowly became close friends instead of lovers. It's safer like that.

"Ow!" Miles rubs his arms feeling pain on his back being nervous.

"What about guys! You said your into guys too!" Pavtri got close to his friend's face while holding his hand, even Hobie got close to listen.

"Well... umm... never really thought about it. I guess, the same thing as Gwen- um..." His honey-brown eyes started to drift away from eye contact being flustered. "I kinda like tall guys! Like really tall."

Gwen saw Hobie being pink, then stood next to Miles with his hand measuring Miles' height against his own. Hobie is a freakin' tall dude, being six foot and four inches while Miles only six foot. This made the teenager girl giggle.

"What else?" Pavtri asked.

Miles wasn't paying attention to Hobie and Gwen assuming they were being goofy with each other. "Umm... I always saw myself being with a guy that's edgy, likes music..." Hobie did a happy pose, showing off his outfit being punk and his guitar being, "romantic." The punker pulled out a rose being the romantic type.

"Funny, smart, not afraid to be sensitive, sweet with kids!" Hobie putting on a goofy glasses with mustache, then a book by Albert Einstein and pulls out Mayday from the blue while holding her. Mayday giggles at the punker being surprised he grab her out of home from a portal!

"Kids? You want kids!"

"No, I mean... i dunno a guy that's nice with kids is a green flag for me." Miles rubs his chin unaware of Peter 616 coming out of the portal to take back his daughter from the punker and wag his finger. Mayday merely laughs agains before waving the punker goodbye. The two went back to their world. "Oh, I always saw myself being with a black man, someone Jamaican or Caribbean but I wouldn't mind an Afro Latino or African or just black." He rub his neck.

Hobie happily stood showing off his tattoo of a Jamaican and Haitian pride alongside his West African flag to represent his descendants. Gwen snickers seeing how clueless Miles is being with his type. "What else? No Indian or brown love, Miles." Pavtri pouts.

"Oh, I don't mind that! I'm down for anyone." Miles shyly said, "I do like guys like you, Pav. Like sweet, funny and always putting a positive attitude!"

"Ohh, Miles! You make me wanna date you!" Pavtri hugs him having to nuzzle his cheek, "Hehehe, if I wasn't dating my Gayatri, you'll be my bae!"

That made Hobie jealous, turning grey with newspaper labels with prints, "Do not touch! Warning!"

"Hahaha, awe Pav, you're too nice." Miles giggles, then he said, "Oh, I like guys that are kinda bad boys... like they break the rules."

Hobie turns pink again, that is him. "Oh, and he cares about social views like Black Lives Matter, Women's Rights, LGBTQ plus umm... you know people's rights, heh. I guess, that kind of guy is unrealistic, huh?"

The punker looks surprised and exaggerated his pose into a big WHAT, with hands in the air and squatting. Gwen burst out laughing seeing how this is the perfect description of Hobie Brown.

"Awe, really?" Pavtri's brown eyes glance over at Hobie looking confused and lost. "I mean, I feel like someone already exists."

"I dunno... the guys I meet always be bums, then again I haven't dated much." Miles explains, "Oh, maybe this being a stretched but a guy with a nice accent is hot, y'know."

Hobie threw his hands in the air, Miles' man is right here. Pavtri giggles, "Miles..."

"You describe Hobie?" Gwen hums.

Miles looking flustered at his crush but the sixteen year old look so lost, "I did! Oh..." He glances over at the punker, "It's because you're so amazing! Anyone would be so happy to be with you, man!"

Hobie had hearts with his grey pop into a blooms of pinks being so happy, he picks up his friend with a nuzzle, "Awe, I love you, too, Sunflower!"

"Huh! Where did that come from?" Miles felt his face so warm, he cover his face being embarrassed by all this.

Gwen said to Pavtri seeing Hobie happily carrying around Miles like a couple. "You know... they are taking their sweet ass time to date!"

"You know, Miles... our sweet Miles is too shy and naive!" Pavtri giggles.

[taki118]

Fun thing about Hobie and possible theory based on his comic history

So slight spoilers for Across the Spiderverse 

So in the mainline earth 616 comics Hobie Brown is the Prowler, he was a down on luck black teen who used his tech genius to make the Prowler suit and steal. When spiderman unmasked him he felt a kinship with him and gave Hobie the chance to turn his life around which he did and the Prowler became a heroic figure. Spider Punk is an alternate version of Hobie (who took down his President Osborn by bashing his head in with a guitar not important but fun thing to share).

Aaron Davis was the Prowler in the Ultimates universe and I’ll be honest he’s kinda the worst. 

So if you got kinda an older brother/uncle vibe from Hobie when interacting with Miles I don’t think this was unintentional I think it was to kind of hint at this connection between the two characters. The way Hobie talks to Miles is very reminiscent of how Aaron spoke to him in the first movie.

Now this is where the theory comes in for Beyond the Spiderverse. 

The original backstory for Miles in the comics was that Aaron as the Prowler robbed a lab, the spider crawled into his bag and it then bit Miles making him spiderman. It is very obvious that the alternate Miles in meant to be this Miles but the movie interfered in this. A large part of this comic was that Miles was torn between his father and uncle and could have followed either could have been a hero or a villain he had the capacity for both. And we also see this in the first movie.

So this is what I think will happen in Beyond Prowler Miles will follow in the foot steps of comic Hobie and turn the identity into a heroic one showing that it wasn’t the spider bite that made him a hero but the people around him.