#hitman theory

[zoroara]

A collection of flame information

I decided to compile and categorize flame information that is both said in canon, not said directly in canon but is observable and then throw in a couple of theories of my own. In this post I will be separating them by type. It's gonna be fucking long so here's a read more. I will not be bringing up actual flame abilities here, but rather the concept as a whole.

First, the Canon ones, which I'll define as what is outright stated:

Every person has flames.

How flames manifest are determined by the wavelength they are.

Every person has different strengths of each wavelength, your strongest wavelength is your primary flame If you have multiple decently strong wavelengths, you are capable of manifesting more than one flame type, but it will take training and effort to manifest.

Flames are not determined by anything special other than these things.

Though the Vongola has rules on how they expect certain flame users to act as guardians, no other organization with flames does however.

Having enough dying will can prevent death, and should you have enough vengeance in your heart during this time, all types of flame can become black and become the flame of night and keep you alive indefinitely, as long as you have a body.

Hyper Dying Will Mode is separate to rings, and works differently, however can clear the body to be capable of manifesting flames through removing internal barriers, the previous mode Dying Will Mode, however only removed external, thus it did not manifest flames with the exception of the one on the head. However, it is not as strong as a person with a ring's dying will flames, but is on par with someone who can naturally bring out their dying will flame(eg. Xanxus).

Dying will mode minus state, is by temporarily turning your dying will into a state that is the opposite for seconds at a time hence the flickering look of it. During the Minus state, with practice you can make it possible to absorb and freeze other people's dying will attacks.

Rings, come in several varieties for each flame. These are the flames they will magnify the best and be able to work with.

Rings also come in grades, outside of certain ring sets(vongola, mare, etc) which have no limits due to materials used, A rank is the highest rank, and the lowest is E rank. These latter case of rings, have a limit on how much flame they can magnify at a time, and will break if put over said limit.

Rings can convert flames that previously were not manifested(eg. Yamamoto not being able to create flames without a ring), and when taken off, they will not be able to create flame, it does not react in any special way with flame users already capable of manifesting their flames or flame users that are in dying will mode.

Box weapons each serve a utility purpose to them, some only able to do one thing, others able to do many depending on how they were built. A majority of supplementary abilities come from box weapons manipulating how flames work.(Eg. Sky petrification only happens due to the box weapons, bester and natsu.) Each box weapon has rules of use and how it manipulates the flame put into it.

Sky flames can open any box weapon, however through this use, the box weapon is inherently weaker than someone of the same power and proper flame type using it.

Mammon chains(and their ring cover variant), when wrapped around devices that would help produce flame(eg. pacifiers rings), hide them from detection.

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Next, are observational, things that follow a clear through line in canon and do not change, but are only noticeable through observation:

First starting with the manifestation of flames.

Being able to manifest flames without assistance of some form is an extreme rarity.

With the exception of Xanxus and some arcobaleno(as seen in rainbow arc when they lose their pacifiers), all other flame users require some intervention to do so. This comes in several forms, rings, dying will pills/bullets, pacifiers, Mukuro's eye, etc.

All this will end up with a flow chart that looks like this:

Though box weapons manipulate flames to a specific ruleset, it seems possible that one can use the abilities of a box weapon without a box weapon. Though training is required and seems to only show as rudimentary as possible(Eg. TYL Squalo creating a barrier with flame with only his ring, which TYL Yam had to use a box weapon for), special abilities of the box weapons seem to be unable to be re-creatable by simple flame.

Flames of wrath, within canon are only theorized to be a hybrid of storm and sky flames, however, through observation of how this works, it does in fact work like how one would expect this combination to work

As Hibari uses multiple rings to put in a box weapon before they shatter, it seems that using multiple rings can in fact spread out the strain on the rings long enough to be used, however it seems they will shatter quickly after use like this, thus is not an effective long period strategy, and rather is a way to short term raise how much flame you can actually output at once. (only works if you're already breaking rings though)

The crystals produced by zero point inherently feed and grow on others dying will. It is not produced by your own, but by absorbing and manipulating others dying will to create the crystals themselves.

(for clarity: I'm saying that the crystals produced at any point are only produced because the target has flames that can be manipulated to create crystals and aren't produced by the person using the technique, like the crystals aren't FROM tsuna, the crystals always grow from his target, so it's a manipulation technique of someone's own flame, to pull apart and neutralize it and from that point it neutralizes itself.

In addition to humans which produced flame, it works on box weapons because they're made of flame, it works on the moscas in the future because they have little batteries of flame, it works on ghost because it's made of flame, it works in the onsen because there's MANY TARGETS WITH POWERFUL FLAMES which is why it ends up so fucking big)

Mammon chains(and their ring cover variant), when wrapped around devices that would help produce flame(eg. pacifiers rings), prevent the device from producing flames all together. While not explicitly stated, the chains are always taken off or the covers open in order to use flames. With one exception being mammon. However in Rainbow arc, Mammon is capable of using a flame without a device(pacifier), so it can be observed that this is probably what they're using instead.

Flames, due to being energy wave forms, are detectable through machinery and their output can also be detected. This is observed at many points even being a main point getting to choice, however, it being the wave output that is detected is more observational so I put it here.

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NOW for what is straight up theory on my end, where there is varying amount of support for what i'm saying here, and is much more extrapolation on my end, so they are more... Ideas than anything substancial.

Earth flames are not real flames: This is more because of how they only manifested by the owners of the rings. To me, it is simply more likely, that the shimon rings, are capable of drawing the same wave lengths that sky flames use, but in an alternate way to produce a different set of flame, in the same way that Box weapons and vongola gear can produce much more distinct abilities, however far more extreme and in a set of rings. The additional odd parasitoid looks of the rings also give off that feel to me.

Flame hybrids are produced when a sky flame wavelength is equal to another wavelength: Pretty much what it says on the tin, I theorize flames like the flames of wrath are produced when a person's primary flame is sky, with another flame is equal strength to their sky flame. Then, the Harmonization factor of sky flame, melds with what would be another strong flame to create a new primary flame type. This does theoretically mean there should be more flame hybrids, however this combination must be incredibly rare to have a stable version.

Methods through the Vongola Tenants were probably chosen: Other groups are chosen through other means, such as the arcobaleno being chosen through simple sheer power. However it is noted that the vongola rules are not followed by the other groups at all. The Vongola statements are very specific, but looking through it simply, they had chosen these rules for what would be the best user for each flame. A storm flame who is willing to be violent in battle when the main ability of a storm flame is in fact one that's destructive in nature. An unwillingness to be, would make using the flame not nearly as useful. These are the personalities they believe are capable of using the flames the best. It also, happens to be the personalities that the original group showed, which means they likely determined that to keep the vongola clear on how they should act in the future, they should follow these tenants. It did not work out how they desired.

It is possible to change flames: Through external means, if one could manipulate the wavelength of their primary flame, they would be able to create flames of a different type. This would require much more experimental technology than what currently exists in khr.

Thank you for reading and I hope this information is helpful to anyone who needs a quick resource on how flames work as an overall, and not just their abilities.

[ketchup-chup]

Some KHR thoughts I have been having recently… You know how they always make it a point to like say how similar Yuni is to Luce (said by both Lal and Reborn during the future arc)? To the point that Luce’s prototype design was literally just Yuni?

Meanwhile Aria doesn’t seem to resemble them all that much outside of the obvious features (birthmark under the eye, same hair and eye colour). But you know who she does resemble?

Anime pic of Aria for better quality:

Sephira!!!

[myth-blossom]

I'm so very tickled about the holiday decorations now available in the Hitmansion 😍 but as I started taking some screenshots, I noticed the reflections in the ornaments show the moving boxes and crates from when you first start Freelancer, regardless of the decorations you've chosen in the area around the tree.

Yes, the reflections aren't clean-cut and that's fine. But the implications for my fandom brain are HUGE. Are you telling me this holiday magic is all in 47's head? Is he STILL stuck in that damn basement?!

HALP

[catpriciousmarjara]

Katekyo Hitman Reborn!: Namimori Location

(Documenting my research process so I won't forget and get confused why I did something in a fic during a later read through. Nothing serious really.)

Where exactly is Namimori in canon?

As I was writing a khr fic, I realized I needed the exact location of Namimori for one sentence. A sentence that wasn't even important in the long run. Rather than abandon that single sentence I decided to try and locate where the town of Namimori would be in Japan. Because apparently I like pain.

There is virtually no information on the actual location of Namimori anywhere. So I had went on a research binge. And I found something that gave me a starting point.

In 2009, there was a special KHR episode that was aired during the Jump Super Anime Tour titled, Vongola Style School Trip, Arrives!

Saying that I found it is not that accurate. Its more that I went looking for an episode like this specifically. This isn't the first time I tried to locate fictional locations on a map for the sake of the plot. And I've realized that episodes centered around trips provide amazing clues, especially where the trip starts, where it ends, the scenery outside etc.

Thats what I hoped for here as well. And the hunch paid off! Between timestamps 3:07-3:10, there's a map. Not very detailed mind you. Just enough to show the direction where they came from. But that's better than nothing.

So they're going to Nagoya city, which is in the Aichi Prefecture. Its in the Chūbu region. It also looks like they're coming from the Kanto region, possibly from the direction of Tokyo.

So that means we can leave out the Kansai, Chugoku, Shikoku, and Kyushu regions in the south. There's no way Namimori is in Hokkaido, or Okinawa, so those two prefectures are out as well. The most likely locations for the town to be in is in the Kanto, and Chubu regions.

Comparing the physical map of Japan with the short glimpse we get, I'm reasonably sure they passed by Mt. Fuji as well.

See that little protrusion under Fuji-san? I'm pretty sure thats what we see in the map shown in the episode. So yeah they passed Mount Fuji.

Another thing, see that arch like thing before the protrusion? Thats Kanagawa prefecture, and we can see in the very beginning of the video, around the 0.03-0.04 timestamps, that they don't start anywhere there.

See? They pass by it completely and started somewhere well before Kanagawa. So Kanagawa is out.

Lets go back to Fuji-san again.

The mountain lies between the Yamanashi and Shizuoka prefecture borders.

That gives us three possible routes:

Chiba-> Tokyo-> Yamanashi-> Shizuoka-> Aichi [Nagoya City}

Tokyo-> Yamanashi-> Shizuoka-> Aichi [Nagoya City}

Yamanashi -> Shizuoka -> Aichi [Nagoya City]

Why did I decide on Tokyo as the starting point in Kanto despite there being other prefectures in the region?

In KHR's seventh volume, Hot Summer Arrives!, we get chapter 57, Swimming at the Sea. Its a beach chapter.

The beach is described as being close by and the fact that Ryohei's boxing club senpai, Kuroda Eiji and his buddies Kisanuki Yukio and Ookura Takuya, apparently work there as lifeguards, supports this. (You know...cos they're in middle school and all and jobs at that age tend to be close by...for civilians at least.)

Which means that prefectures like Saitama, Tochigi, and Gunma, which are all landlocked as you can see on the map below, are automatically disqualified as locations for Namimori.

By that same logic, Yamanashi is also disqualified.

Ibaraki is not counted because despite the abrupt beginning and ending of the map scene in the episode, we can guess that the starting point of the trip wasn't quite that far back. By the curve of the arrow I mean. {Yeah I know this is a reach but I'm pretty sure I'm right.}

That just leaves Tokyo and Chiba.

The argument in favour of Chiba is a meta one. Tokyo is an iconic location when it comes to manga and anime. Most anime set in Tokyo shows several shenanigans centered around Tokyo's various landmarks. Even works not set in Tokyo sometimes have Tokyo episodes and Tokyo adventures. Like Haikyuu for example.

Considering how much shenaniganry and crackishness KHR has, it would be very strange if it was set in Tokyo and yet didn't have any Tokyo misadventures in it. Reborn would just go ahead and name Tokyo Tower Vongola Tower or something just like he named Nagoya Castle Vongola Castle. So Namimori might not be in Tokyo, but in Chiba instead...which is still part of the Greater Tokyo Area now that I think about it, so still Tokyo in a way?

I couldn't find a way to clearly articulate an argument in favour of Tokyo when a friend send me this link.

I was walking on a path well-tread! @ladydraculena had already slashed through the figurative jungles for me!

I went looking for the two locations marked in the map in their post but it seems like Namimori Steamed Buns has since closed down. Hibari Nursery School on the other hand is going strong.

With this information the argument in favour of Tokyo grew much stronger.

Thus canonically the town of Namimori is most likely located in Tokyo and if not in Tokyo proper, definitely in the Greater Tokyo Area.

(Please note that I left the Tohoku region out of this. The region is very distinct and neither anime nor the manga has shown a singular sign of being set in Tohoku. By that I mean that if a work is set in Tohoku, it would be impossible to hide its Tohoku, or mistake it as somewhere else.)

Edit: @rooigseix pointed out that since most of KHR's usual shenanigans strictly happens in Namimori, the usual Tokyo adventure trope meta might not be applicable in this case. Namimori might be far away from Tokyo centre like the Ota or Edogawa districts, which are close to the sea as well.

Edit: @lightning-will-bovino pointed out Kokuyo land and there is in fact a theme park called Noah Forest Amusement Park or Mori-no-Yeunchi near the Hibari Nursery School!

It seems very likely that Amano-sensei was inspired by the area. It might not be where Namimori is actually located but the existence of these establishments in close quarters lends further credence to the theory of Namimori being in the Tokyo area.

In conlusion, the most likely location of Namimori would be in Tokyo prefecture but close to the Chiba border. Not landlocked as well.

Thus, Edogawa ward is the most suitable location.

And after all of that, I decided that Tokyo wasn't a good fit for my fic's Namimori and by my magical writer powers shifted it to Mie Prefecture instead. ╥﹏╥

[bioedwinmx]

Ok, chart time. KHR Undying Will Flames into divided into a cohesive whole (Pretty sure somebody already did this like this)

So we have 3 axis under the Sky (which would be Sky Flames / Unity)

So the X axis is the axis of Reality: Storm and Mist flames represent everything that is, that could be and isn't.

The Y axis is the axis of Change: Lighting and Rain flames are everything that changes and everything that doesn't.

And the the Z axis is the Axis of Replication (I guess it should be named Parallel): Basically, it just represents every possible configuration of anything that can exist. Cloud and Sun flames multiply stuff in different ways with a lot of room for variation and evolution.

These axis represent the world, Reality affects Space, Change affects Time and Replication affects Parallels.

So, the Trinisette

The Mare Sky ring controls Replication, and it lets the user get to see parallel realities and go insane through overload.

The Sky arcobaleno gets Change, that let's her see the future, we'll not really, Yuni got that from her family... I think. The arcobaleno get transformed into babies though.

The Vongola sky ring get Reality, so they get to see every other user of the ring since their creation. Apparently, they can also be reforged, cool.

Anyways, an idiot would think that getting the trinisette would let him change the world. It probably wouldn't.

BTW I might be insane, don't know how much if this actually holds up to close inspection. It's 1 am and I'm very hyper.

[writer-haru]

khr headcanon about Jura, France

I believe this is the location of Vindice.

For those who don't know, Jura is a real location both in Katekyo Hitman Reborn and our actual home planet. According to the wikipedia page:

"The Jura mountains are wooded and rolling, not craggy and rocky like the Alps."

M.M, Ken, and Chikusa are depicted in a mountainous, snowy area 10km from the location of the Vindice during the Future Arc.

Now, there's some lore reasons for this theory too.

There are actually three reasons for France to be considered an important location in the KHR manga.

Fran, a ridiculously powerful illusionist who can trick the Vindice.

2. The pacifier fountain---something that "powers up" the Arcoblaeno's beam.

3. M.M, who according to the wikia lives in France and is spotted in a cabin close by to the Vindice.

With that said, my proposal is this:

The Vindice is located in Jura, France. The Vindice reside there because of the power of the pacifier fountain helping keep their power strong. They know about Fran not because Byakuran traded that knowledge for Ghost (he didn't, he is implied to not actually know Fran existed in canon at the time of the future arc), but because Fran was just. Always nearby. They already knew about him, he was on their radar all this time because of his close vicinity. Why? Jura, France.

[innytoes]

Between looking up houses in LA on zillow for a fanfic and researching how US medical debt works for that same fic, I have concluded that Ray Molina is a hit man.

[dreaming-hibi]

Let's thank @ilx-8s for this one theory

Let me summarize it for those of us who don't read the replies in posts: "Freed from the curse Yuni would outlive everyone"

And like, yeah, absolutely true!

In my case, I'll admit that I totally forgot to do that math, because if the rest of the Arcobaleno got freed from their baby curse, then Yuni obviously got rid of her short-lifespan curse! How does someone forget something like that?

Anyway, considering Yuni's ancestor is Sepira, who was the same species as Kawahira, then certainly she could have a long lifespan now (and outlive everyone).

But! I definitely think she won't.

I mean, I love angst as much as the next person, but (un)fortunately I don't think Yuni is heading in that direction.

Let's recap what we know of Sepira:

Sepira is the same specie as Kawahira/Checker Face, a True Earthling as opposed to New Earthling (humans)

From what we understand, Sepira was at least more proactive than Kawahira at trying to find a solution to the Tri-ni-sette as well as the burden it had on the Arcobaleno

Sepira was the one who decided to give the Vongola Rings to Giotto (and its hinted that this happened BEFORE the establishment of the Vongola Famiglia, so while he was still leader of his vigilante group) and keep the Mare Rings in her newly formed famiglia, the Giglio Nero

Sepira could see the future

She was Giglio Nero Prima

Let's recap what we don't know about her:

How she died

If she was an Arcobaleno

While this inscription on a wall with Sepira's birthmark on it might suggest otherwise, it's unlikely that Sepira was a Sky Arcobaleno at any point in time. If she had been then Luce, her descendant, would have already been in possession of the Sky pacifier on the Fated Day.

So Sepira wasn't an Arcobaleno (someone, please, go tell the KHR wikia to change that). Then how did she die? Kawahira and Sepira are the same species, but he's alive and she's not, so what is the difference between them? How did she die in a way that wasn't considered unnatural enough for Kawahira to remark on it?

Well, I think the answer is in their way of living!

Sepira decided to live among and like a human, while Kawahira decided to live like the cryptid he is. So it makes sense that Sepira's lifespan adapted to that of a normal human being (and why Kawahira talks like she's died in a natural way, because she has!). And it would make even more sense that her descendants would be even more human if she procreated with a human. Unless they self-reproduce which explains the absence of both Aria's and Yuni's father and why Gamma had no idea Aria had a kid.

Sorry, angst, but I don't think Yuni will be going down the path of "I have a longer lifespan than all the people I know so I will watch them die one day".

[dank-meme-my-gf-sends-me]

[khr-guilded-cage]

I think Sky Flames aren't the 'Leaders'

They are the HEART

[yakool-foolio]

All that Phantom talk yesterday got me obsessing even more over Hitman Zilch, so I'll serve y'all one of my finest grim dishes on the house!

Hitman Zilch dons the personas of his victims partly in hopes that combining bits and pieces of these identities will grant him all the attention n love from Yomi he desires, destroying all that barely remains of his original self to become an amalgam of people he's killed but believes would suit Yomi's wants in a partner. Maybe he even believes that adding Yomi's own identity to his collection is the highest form of love, showing that he is willing to become one with him by metaphorically wearing his skin, loving him inside and out.

[feyd-rautha-apologist]

Daria: Damn, this tattoo artist on instagram makes pretty good stuff, I should try getting one from them

The tattoo artist in question:

[p5x-theories]

Everyone keeps suggesting that Sojiro not owning LeBlanc means something bad happened to him but it could always mean that Wakaba never died in this universe

Haha, yeah! If we assume there really are counterparts to every P5 character in P5X's universe that have just lived different lives, the butterfly effect becomes super apparently really quickly: Goro Akechi lived a different life, which inherently means Shido, Joker, Okumura, Haru, Maruki, Wakaba, Sojiro, and Futaba's lives would all look pretty different right now, too.

[jamie-berrymoore]

Flame Spectrum

So like if Sky and Storm make Wrath Flames what about the other Emotions. At least I’m assuming is emotions and not Vices/Sins. Sky + Storm = Wrath Flames Sky + Rain = Sorrow Flames Sky + Sun = Joy Flames Sky + Lightning = Surprise/Alarm Flames Sky + Cloud = Revulsion Flames (Disgust Flames don't really fit, maybe Hatred or something) Sky + Mist = Fear Flames

Other things to consider Love Flames but I’m not sure what mix would make that. 

I know there’s an Ocean/Sea flame thing running around, too. That’s the basis for what I have, maybe someone else can add to this.

[baska117]

Crazy theories #1

!!!possible comic/books spoiler allert!!!

I decided to have discussion about theories of mine: 1. Which blood type would have characters Agent 47, Lucas Grey and other Ort-Meyer´s clones.

2. Is there any other reason why Lucas and 47 wanted to destroy Ort-Meyer and Providence than only cloning program? Only for freedom?

3. Death of Lucas Grey - is he really dead? What will happend if he somehow survived?

1. theory: In official canon there is writen "In exchange for the research funding, Ort-Meyer provided his former comrades with donor organs harvested from clone bodies, which significantly extended their longevity and made them appear much younger." This brings me to a conclusion that 47/Grey/clones would have possibly blood type 0+/0- because "The Five Fathers" would have different blood types and blood type 0 is universal blood type (especially 0 neg.). For example in Hitman: Contracts was Agent 47 bad wounded and Diana sent doctor to treat 47´s gunshot wound. I think it is necessary for these wounds to get the blood transfusion to save life of person.

2. theory: This theory came to my mind after i read comic Agent 47: Birth of the Hitman.

Personally I think there was another reason, we don't see now, why they wanted to destroy Ort-Meyer and Providence. Freedom was clear thing, because they lived in harsh conditions. But is that the only reason? I don´t think so. There may be possible something or someone they wanted to protect at all cost.

3. theory: I was very shocked by his death in H3. But is he really dead? I know many of players have theory that he might survive his "suicide" act. I searched for some documents if is there any possibility of surviving wound like this. This type of wound could be fatal by bullet velocity, but it depend of pistol type and used ammo. But percentually there was about 45% of surviving and we all know that Lucas was no ordinary human being. If 47 would react fast, Lucas might survive this shot - but with big brain damage - possibly movement, memory and speech issues. Please this is only my theories and thoughts. Don´t be rude in comments or reblogs. Thank you.

[steamworksfairy]

hi fae! i AM curious about your ideas about verde and especially about how you felt he was forshadowed if you feel like elaborating? 👀

(also yeah, team forever and ever taking their sweet time zesrdfcgf!! 😌🥰)

Hi Hope!

So, I only know of one point of foreshadowing for Verde specifically. I haven't reread the manga in a while (a few weeks to a year to not at all, depending on the arc), and I haven't really rewatched the anime since I first saw it around 2012. (However, I do rewatch the Verde episodes sometimes.) So this won't be as comprehensive as I'd like. (Sorry) Also note that this whole thing will be full of my own interpretations and theories on the manga (and a little of the anime). So some things may be biased,etc. Also, manga spoilers!

Now then, what makes me think he is foreshadowed? Chapter 53 of the manga.

In this chapter, Verde is mentioned by some of his hired assassins to have sent them to target Tsuna. He apparently has been going after bosses and their successors. (I assume this is because he was hired by another person to do this in order to make some side money for his experiments as well as test out those camouflage suits.) The attempt fails, and Tsuna tells the defeated assassins to send Verde his reguards.

Now, what's interesting to note is when any form of plot goes out of its way for an "antagonist" to send a minion after the main character, this serves as a setup for a later encounter.

Another thing to note is that at least two of the three Vongola successors, Timoteo's sons, were also assassinated near the beginning of the manga. (One was shot in a feud, but that could potentially be seen as a cover-up. The other was drowned and another reduced to nothing but bone.) As well as the fact I-pin seems to have been sent to kill what looks like another boss during her introduction chapter, all of this points to the fact that someone was hiring assassins** to take out mafia bosses. Which, I believe this was a plot point hinted at, but it never seemed to have come into fruition. (Unless I'm forgetting something 😅)

**I know Verde isn't an assassin, but he seems to run some type of business or side business where he leases out assassins who work for him and use the gear and weapons he's invented.

It should also be noted that I don't think that Verde had a hand in any of Timoteo's sons deaths. His method seems to be hiring assassins to inject poison into his targets.

So yeah, I kind of think there is some sort of hinted at future plot point that would have involved Verde. I don't know if he would have been a major antagonist or not. However, I can't help but note that up until Verde was mentioned, both Colonnello and Skull made full appearances. I don't think any other Arcobaleno were mentioned before that, and if nothing was being set up, then it would make more sense for him to make an appearance. Yet, he didn’t. Which further makes me think something was being set up, but it was scraped or forgotten.

Another interesting thing to note about chapter 53 is how unphased Reborn is by that, but in anime (I think in the filler), Reborn does explicitly state not to trust Verde. Yet! During the Rainbow arc, they seem more like typical anime rivals---minus all the fighting, of course. What I mean is, when you read their interactions during the climax of that arc, when everyone has gathered together to defeat Bermuda, they seem a little more friendly towards each other than what the anime has lead me to believe. In the anime, I'm sure Reborn states a few times not to trust Verde. Or that he doesn't.

However, in the manga, right before Verde activates his boss watch, they have a moment where Reborn is like, "But, Verde! You don't fight!" And just does the typical anime rivals scoff and is essentially like "I have an ace up sleeve!" It's very subtle, but oh my gosh, it reads so much like this for me! And of course, when Reborn activates his boss watch on that final fight, Verde just stands next to a robot version of Reborn. Like Verde didn’t have to pretend to TALK to Reborn. He didn’t have to keep up the act. But he did so Tsuna wouldn’t catch on to the fact that "Reborn's friend" was just Reborn's uncursed form. Which is sweet, and they are totally frenemies and---

I'm gonna leave it at that. Hopefully, this all makes sense. I might have a habit of over reading all the Verde parts in the manga, lol 🤣

(Usually, yes!!! But the chance to talk about Verde was dangled right in front of face! So I took it 😊💚)