#high rufousing

[identifying-cat-phenotypes]

Very interested in seeing your thoughts on these two!

oh! i love designs, and the poses here are so cute!

I'm assuming the red cat is intended to be a Somali, so they would be a longhaired (black) ticked tabby with low white and high rufousing (ruddy), causing the red effect.

the lower cat looks like a blue spotted tabby with medium white! gorgeous, and such dynamic posing!

[felinefractious]

🐱 Bengal mix (dam was Bengal x DSH)

📸 Lorraine Mc

🎨 Blue Rosetted Tabby

[whatcoloristhatcat]

Very curious what flavor our girl is. She’s a super vibrant orangey-red with distinct black stripes and white marks. Our vet says they’ve never seen a cat that looks quite like her.

she looks to be a black broken mackerel tabby with low white spotting! that orangeness is a high degree of rufousing :)

[psystirene]

WC x Rainworld Day 13 - No Significant Harassment

OKAY GUYS IM GONNA BE FR I DONT HAVE AAAANY SPOONS TO WRITE A DESCRIPTION EVEN THO I LOVE NSH </3 I will come and edit this later if I remember to, to give them the explanation they deserve, but for now this will be short </3

Sigilnose is the current mediator of Tideclan, having held the position for quite a stretch of time (pre-flood). They are the father of current deputy Foxchase, and, more recently, the mate of Moonstar!

While Sigil received some judgment after bringing home a litter of kits with an unknown mother, all the while not being considered the most serious member of the clan, Sigilnose was able to more or less smooth things over. If there's anything they can rely on, it's their charisma and easy-going vibe.

Notes: - Sig is a chocolate wideband tabby, maybe a bit of silver too but I'm not sure. Foxchase inherited the wideband ("golden") trait from him, though Fox also has high rufousing. This makes Fox genetically black and not ginger. - Sig is clanborn, and the scarf they wear is one they found while out near the Twolegplace. They usually don't wear it outside of camp, and it rests as a blanket/pillow in their den when they have it off. - Sig is fairly adventurous for a mediator, and has gotten into a few scuffles, leading to several scars... And the aforementioned "random" litter

[identifying-cat-phenotypes]

A trio of three! Glad they were able to witness me, so long ago! Good cats, good cats!

The first cat is a black self tortoiseshell! Such a handsome fluffy guy!

The second cat seems to be a black broken braided tabby, with high rufousing!

The third seems to be a self white cat!

DISCLAIMER! This is a hobbyist's identification, please send an ask or reply with any corrections or thoughts on these cats!

Ember, Nicky, and Zel wish you all a happy Trans Day of Visibility!

[littlehungrywarriorcats]

Hiii I’m the girl from YouTube ! Here’s my kitty, as you can see the cream color is visible only with a certain lighting, I don’t know, it might be just some highlights

Oh VERY cute!!

I'm glad you sent me some pics! I have very interesting things to say about your lovely kitty :3

So tabbies aren't actually "a cat who is [color] with stripes on top," rather, a tabby's "true" color IS their stripes, and then Tabby Genes add lighter parts in-between.

Basically, what happens is the Tabby Gene adds what's called "agouti" to some hairs. Agouti is banding of a lighter color (usually red) which makes the hair appear lighter from a distance.

This causes the "brown" look of brown tabbies, who are genetically black.

Some tabbies have bands that are not very red. Some tabbies have bands that are pretty decently red. And finally, some tabbies have bands that are VERY VERY red. This causes cats of seemingly different colors.

^ Both of these cats are "brown tabbies," AKA black tabbies, despite one looking gray.

Additionally, on a single cat, rufousing tends to be higher in certain areas: the belly, face, neck, and generally underside of the cat tend to be redder than the rest.

Look at the cats in the image above: the one on the right has a VERY red muzzle compared to the rest of their brown body. The light, paler color around the neck, inside the ears, and the lower jaw are also due to rufousing. You can see on the cat on the left, slightly more yellow-y on the chest (facing us) than on the shoulders & rest of the body, and a redder spot on the nose.

Thus, the way we tell a cat's color is by their stripes, not by the colors between their stripes :3

Your cat is SUPER cool because it's not very common for blue cats to have such high rufousing!

Your cat's "ginger" is in the places where rufousing goes, and is a lot "softer" & more even than tortie markings tend to look. But the biggest piece of evidence is this:

Here's a reddish patch on the neck.......with blue stripes! Thus, patch is genetically BLUE, not red - meaning it's rufousing, not tortie!

Up close, your cat's hairs probably look something like this:

Here's some more blue cats with super high rufousing:

(They don't have stripes bc their tabby gene is being modified by additional genes that tell the cat's fur to ONLY have agouti hairs. it's called "ticked" :3 these breeds are Abyssinian and Somali, who have SUPER high rufousing as a breed standard)

Anyway, it seems I was wrong in the YouTube comments - she's NOT a torbie, she's just a REALLY cool blue tabby!

I'm really glad you sent me pics so I could clear up :3 thanks again!!

[identifying-cat-phenotypes]

can you tell me what the f*ck is going on with Hope?

he's mostly cream, not white, i know he looks a little pale in this image 😔

my first instinct was a chocolate self tortoiseshell and white. HOWEVER. as he is a cream colour this is not so.

Cream cats, as a dilute of red, are always tabbies even if they're genetically solid. He could be a ticked tabby cream, but we'd still see some tabby markings, especially on his face.

so I'm considering maybe a chocolate self tortoiseshell and white (with the white hidden by the chimera) and a fawn self chimera. This would allow Hope to have solid patches that appear cream, along with blue eyes, and his red and chocolate colouration.

maybe a fawn caramel? this could make him appear more cream...

On the other hand, he could also be a highly rufoused chocolate classic tabby (with white) chimera with fawn self, which would account for the brightness of his tabby patches. interesting design! i got to go off the rails with this one

final assessment: some kind of chimera, maybe with fawn?

Hi, Jay asked me to help assess this one! My first thought was "Oh, this could be labeled fawn!"

The white (cream-ish base that the other markings seem to be drawn over) clocks me as high white. This is partly due to the fact that the eyes are a pale blue, and that it doesn't match any pointing genes. Simple.

Other than that, my thoughts lead to a chocolate tortoiseshell self with high white!

I'll be tagging both of them in the post, because both options are valid interpretations!

[clangenrising]

Please give some RisingClan trivia in these trying times? (Has had a very bad day) Likkeee…

Who do you like writing the most? Who do you have the most difficulty with? What’s Orangestar’s favorite meal? Things of that nature ^^ Just some silly stuff :D

Haha How can I refuse? okay, let's see....

Its hard to say who I like writing most, I tend to have more fun with specific scenes than with specific characters, but I will say that the one piece we got in Razor's POV was so fun to write, just like, getting to see the world from his twisted perspective for a bit.

In that vein, I don't have a character who is the hardest to write either. I guess kittens are hard for me, I struggle with writing children accurately to their ages haha.

Orangestar's favorite meal is squirrel. I'm currently struggling to map out the politics in the city following Razor's death. Russetfrond's dad was a big blue and white classic tabby named Wolfmoon. Barleybee isn't actually ginger, she and Sparrowsway are both cinnamon, she just has high rufousing which makes her look redder (like abyssinian and somali cats).

I hope your day gets better <3 I'm glad RisingClan is something that brings you joy

[identifying-unusual-cat-flavours]

High rufous gray (maltese dilution) broken mackarel tabby with folded ears. Breed: Scottish Loop/Fold

[amber-tortoiseshell]

dustpelt and ferncloud and their kids? particularly icecloud and foxleap, if you don't want to do all of them.

Yeah, I get why you'd request them specifically. Lots of the Ferncloud/Dustpelt kits are weird, but those two are especially impossible.

Let's go one-by-one.

Dustpelt: Black tabby. Spotted, to make him different from Tigerclaw and Brambleclaw.

Ferncloud: Silver spotted tabby. I haven't decided between black and blue yet. (Maybe black Ferncloud and blue Ashfur? Brindleface is blue spotted tabby without silver, so then they'd be all subtly different.)

Spiderleg: "Black tom with a brown underbelly". that's. um. not a thing. So I made him simply black and let's say he likes to sunbath with his belly up

Shrewpaw: He's solid black too. He's described as dark brown, but as I said, I won't bring chocolate into my warriors. (This is a me issue, i know.) He and his brother were young during the famine in the forest yeah? Maybe their coats become faded and more brown than black because of the malnourishment, and this is how the clan remembers Shrewpaw.

Birchfall: Originally I made him simply a black spotted tabby, but while i was writing this and thinking about genotypes I realized i'd like a high rufoused silver tabby Birchfall even more, for several reasons: birches are famously white-barked trees with black spots; I could make Ivypool a homozygous silver, which is a pleasant idea for me; and it solves the only thing that bothered me about this family: that I made Ferncloud silver, and then didn't give any of her seven kits the allele. (Which is not impossible, just... I don't like it.)

Hollykit, Larchkit, Foxleap: All of them are black spotted tabbies. (Ferncloud is homozygous spotted.) Maybe it's a little funny that Foxleap isn't red, but i'd have to make at least two cats torties to make it possible; and he's called "reddish", not red, so i decided to interpret it as rufoused black tabby. Now that I made Birchfall a tarnished silver it's even consistent with the family. (And he could have a white tailtip to be more foxlike)

Icecloud: Dominant white is out of the question of course (wellll... if Whitestorm is indeed Ferncloud's father then we could make her full white... but at the moment i don't really want to). High white spotting would also need too much modification. So she'll be pointed. Black (silver) tabby point. She dies relatively young, so it makes sense she was seen as white for most of her life.

Dustpelt and Ferncloud

Spiderleg/Shrewpaw, Birchfall, Hollykit and Larchkit, Foxleap, Icecloud

(warrior cats genetics ask game)

[felinefractious]

Can you explain what rufousing is?

Rufousing is a polygenic trait which influences the “richness” or “warmth” of phaeomelanin pigment in agouti cats.

Polygenic means there isn’t just one “rufous gene,” but rather multiple genes which influence the phenotype. When it comes to rufousing in cats these genes have not yet been isolated and identified.

That hasn’t stopped breeders from being able to select for more or less rufousing, though! The ruddy Abyssinian being an excellent example.

On the left is the ruddy Abyssinian WCF Ch Lissana's Fiesta and on the right is White Wolf Phaeton.

These are both black-based ticked tabbies.

[Source: Sparrow’s Garden]

In tabby cats the “true” color is portrayed by the stripes, which is why what’s frequently referred to as a “brown tabby” is actually black-based.

The rufousing polygenes work on the banding in between.

Here are some more examples!

One the left is a cool-toned Exotic Shorthair with low rufousing from Puro Glamour and on the right we have a very warm-toned Persian with high rufousing from Belcanto.

And then on the left we have a Siberian with low rufousing compared to the very warm-toned Siberian with high rufousing on the right. Both cats are from SarSibi.

In silver cats rufousing is referred to as tarnishing. On the left we have a Maine Coon without tarnishing (tarnish id undesirable in the breed) from Imperial Family and on the right we have an American Curl with tarnishing from ILmatar. This cat is not a tortoiseshell.

[mamadarama]

Kuro and Madara both seem like maine coons but Madara(and also Leo ) also give me calico vibes. Kuro also fits the norwegian forest cat.

Himeru is one of those freaky ass lanky oriental cats or a russian blue

Adonis is an egyptian mau or a siamese, Kaoru is an orange, Rei is a regular black cat but with weirdly shiny fur and Kouga is a cat who was raised by pitbulls and will not accept the reality that he’s not a pitbull

Keito is a regular european/domestic shorthair but with a weirdly green tint to it

I would say Mika is a khao manee due to the eyes but he is big eyed dark brown colored LaPerm( the specific image I have in mind is one of the pictures in The Cat Encyclopedia and I’m not even sure if it’s for that breed)

Tori is a munchkin

OK OKOK SO i actually already have breed hcs for everyone bc im so autistic abt cats i was gonna wait to talk abt them as i made the cat designs but progress is going really slow on those and now that someone is talking to me about it i cant make myself shut up . i agree with a lot of these !!! im just gonna go ahead and list all of my hcs though bc im insane (these are my somewhat realistic color hcs for what they would be if i didnt choose to make them all candy colored when i draw them lol)

(disclaimer: this is on appearance alone, not all these breeds and mutations are ethical, not all these colors actually appear in the breed stated or are combinations that dont exist, and some of these colors/breeds are extinct)

gonna put this under a readmore cuz its ...... a lot (i woulda added pics too but theres definitely way more than 10 cats here)

fine

eichi - ragdoll, cream point, important to note he is a purebred show cat

wataru - oriental longhair, blue bicolor harlequin

tori - munchkin/british shorthair, dilute calico

yuzuru - domestic shorthair (feral TNR), tuxedo, otter like coat texture

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trickstar

subaru - abyssinian, cinnamon

hokuto - american bobtail, black with blue undertones and low white

makoto - scottish fold, golden, non breed standard (longer face)

mao - ragamuffin, red with high white

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akatsuki

kuro - siberian, black smoke striped tabby

keito - domestic shorthair, brown mackerel tabby with low white

souma - japanese bobtail, brown broken mackerel tabby with high white

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eden

nagisa - maine coon, light gray sokoke tabby

hiyori - laperm, silver sunshine agouti with low white

ibara - chausie (feral), blue cream

jun - thai pisaat, black ticked tabby, kinked tail (pisaat characteristic)

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undead

rei - oriental longhair, black (looks brown in sunlight), long teeth (this isnt a mutation, some cats just have longer teeth than others— my design is inspired by mingus the panther, a black oriental shorthair that was popular on the internet for his huge fangs)

kaoru - turkish van, medium longhair, red chinchilla tabby/white

adonis - arabian mau, but with toyger coloration

koga - lykoi, dark gray/black roan, thinks hes a wolf due to being raised with dogs and the lykoi being known as the "werewolf cat"

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knights

leo - domestic shorthair, dense coat, medium white calico, long teeth

izumi - domestic shorthair, lilac striped tabby with low white

arashi - singapura, breed standard

ritsu - bombay, non breed standard (longer face) long teeth like rei but slightly shorter

tsukasa - ragamuffin, chocolate tabby with medium white, higher rufousing

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crazy:b

rinne - chausie, red grizzled tabby, high rufousing

niki - nebelung, non breed standard (shorter fur)

himeru - domestic shorthair, blue solid, small rounded ear mutation

kohaku - longhair american bobtail, sunshine lilac lynx point

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alkaloid

hiiro - chausie, red grizzled tabby (darker tabby than rinne), high rufousing

aira - ragdoll, cream point, non breed standard (shorter fur)

tatsumi - australian mist, silver spotted

mayoi - oriental siamese, seal tortie point, non breed standard (shorter face) edit: hes more of a balinese tbh

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rab*its

nazuna - somali, fawn, notably smaller than average

tomoya - domestic shorthair, fawn based caramel classic tabby

hajime - russian blue, breed standard

mitsuru - kurilian bobtail, chocolate solid

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valkyrie

shu - donskoy (brush), warm gray with white

mika - appears to be a kurilian bobtail, actually domestic longhair (medium), black heavy tortie, odd eyes and bobtail mutation (khao manee cats do have odd eyes, but can only be white. also mikas backstory lends itself to him being a randombred)

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2wink

theyre twins, so both are red classic tabby domestic shorthairs. theyre somewhat smaller than most cats .

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switch

natsume - domestic shorthair, red solid with minimal white

tsumugi - american wirehair, solid chocolate and white, non breed standard (longer fur)

sora - highlander, golden classic tabby with white, ringtail mutation

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ryuseitai

chiaki - havana brown, chocolate

kanata - turkish van, blue classic tabby/white

tetora - bengal/abyssinian, zorro mask charcoal bengal with high roufusing

shinobu - domestic shorthair, black/medium white spotted, somewhat short tail

midori - domestic (medium) longhair, fawn based caramel solid with white

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MaM and others

madara - maine coon, calico (my design for him is based off dawntreader texas calboy, a male calico maine coon that was the subject of controversy among cat show judges for being a genetic anomaly)

(madaras name actually means calico cat!! madara (斑) means spots and mikejima (三毛縞) means tricolored stripes, with "mike" often referring to calico and tortoiseshell cats. as a kid he also had the nickname "mikekun" in reference to his tendency to startle people by sneaking up on them silently like a cat)

anzu - british shorthair, chocolate tortie with medium white

jin - domestic (short) longhair (stray), dark gray, rough fur texture

akiomi - oriental longhair, fawn

kaname - british shorthair, blue solid, non breed standard (longer face)

[phenotyping-cats]

Cinnamon ticked tabby

Grub is an awfully skittish kitty but I think Gale, being a cat guy, would take the time and have the patience to gain his trust and befriend the little orange angel.

Bonus pic of them chillin below

[somerandomicthings]

Sasha, friends and genetics

I will post this only here and Tumblr, because i'm not want to use an anti-ia filter on a sketch page for now.

This is a thought experiment, as i was remembering Sasha description on the Wiki, and i thought: She could be a tortoiseshell, as the books uses a wrong description of a colourpoint, with only having brown ears and tail, with a tan body.

So i decided to make a "biblically" accurate Sasha in genetics(this is just for fun, don't take this seriously), with other cats too that appear on Tigerstar and Sasha and a Shadow in Riverclan with some genetics that are for fun.

Warning: Huge genetic info dump bellow:

Sasha would be a tortie with white, she is cream(as cream is a diluted red, she couldn't be stripeless, as red causes a falsee tabby thing) and has brown ears that can be stripeless, she also has white that can let her have blue eyes(i'm not entirely sure on this one, correct me if i'm wrong).

Tigerstar 1 is a black tabby genetically, with low wide band, so he is slightly darker than normal(i should made him a darker brown however, missed oportunity), he doesn't have any white, it's just the effect of the tabby pattern in his face.

Russetfur is a black tabby but with low wide band and high rufousing, so she is not necessary red, but looks like red. As her father is a black tabby so it's impossible to her to be only red without being tortoiseshell, this is a option for her to still be red, if maybe her mother is a low wide band and high rufousing cat.

The next is Feathertail's tail, she is just a silver cat with high wide band, so she is mostly the same.

Leopardstar is not genetically accurate but i made her to look like a jaguar, a native animal in my country, she looks kinda cool, not gonna lie.

Anyway, Hawkfrost is black tabby, but he is a ticked tabby, which is less accurated to his canon version, but i found more fun like this. He has white spotting, which lets him have blue eyes.

Mothwing is a high wide band ad high rufousing black tabby, which makes her golden looking, she is also a broken braided tabby, to look dappled.

And finally Tadpole, the most non canon looking of the bunch, he is a midnight charcoal tabby, making him look like he has a mask on.

[failsquirrel]

cats bred to resemble foxes. the high rufousing in abyssinians was added to mink (as well as colorpoint and sepia) and refined to resemble a fox's coat. the foxlike look of oriental longhairs were added in as well, and over many years the breed grew to look very close to a fox with long muzzles, large size and bushy tails.

[onedivinemisfit]

Kitty chaos family. Because my hand was forced. I cry foul.

Sauron - high rufousing black mackerel tabby, shaggy coat

Galadriel - golden shaded bicolor, smooth coat

Celebrian - tarnished blue silver tabby bicolor, super fluffy