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Like, damn, this is how I know some of you don't care to understand what someone is talking about and how they feel and go as far as to using slurs against that person.
Imagine writing a post that simply states that "Gojo said something racist, but it was out of ignorance and he learned from it, he isn't a bad guy. We all learn".
And then someone calls you "retard" and "dumb".
Do y'all see what I see? Like, you say this on a post about being offensive? Actually, you know what, I'm not surprised. Because if you're using those words, no doubt you wouldn't see something racist. You're part of the problem.
"It wasn't racist". And this is why we reread and pay the fuck attention, folks!! In the manga, in the manga now, the translation shows that what Gojo said is racist. Here's two, count them, two translations of that!!
So if Gege Akutami, remember the mangaka of JJK, had Miguel state to Gojo what he said is racist, it was meant to come off as racist. Otherwise, why in the hell did Miguel have to school Gojo? This is probably Gege's way of saying "some of you need to fix up your behavior, it's okay to learn, stop feeling like a victim just because someone corrects you over a stereotype".
#IF THE MANGA HAD MIGUEL A BLACK MAN SAID THE STATEMENT IS RACIST IT WAS RACIST#this is not something made up some people are quick to assume black people are all athletes and whatnot#i cannot play any damn sport#but y'all gojo learned he LEARNED#what was the issue of someone learning not to offend someone?#hell if i say something racist please do correct me#just kiya's thoughts#jjk#jujutsu kaisen#jjk 255#jjk manga spoilers#jjk spoilers#gojo satoru#satoru gojo#miguel oduor#miguel oduol#miguel jjk
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[ot7 x reader]
AGUST DUI 🛴🔥
7 participants - 7 online
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tae: ok raise your hand if you think yoongi should of died in the crash
namjoon: why would you say that?
tae: jungkook raise your hand
jk: ok
tae: not in real life the emoji please
jk: ok sorry
wait how did you know i raised my hand in real life??
tae: just do it
jk: like nike LOL
tae: i’m going to skin you alive
jk: sorry
🙋🏻♀️
tae: why are you a woman
jk: gender is a construction
hobi: construct
jk: control
hobi: we are not playing a game
i am correcting you
jk: oh
tae: connecticut
hobi: stop
tae: i wanted to play :(
hobi: it wasn’t a game can you read
jk: omg i know someone from connecticut
i think
jin: you have no friends don’t lie jungkook
jk: no i swear i do
tae: he does
hobi: don’t act like you know
tae: i know
hobi: who is jungkooks friend then?
tae: jungkook tell this idiot ☠️
hobi: i’m asking YOU to tell me
jk: i don’t know who it is
but i know
i’m going to go insane who is it ohmygod
y/n: jaehyun lmao
hobi: oh
jin: yikes
jk: i’m sorry
tae: how dare she lmao like she didn’t just cook my first born alive by saying that name
jk: she typed it btw
tae: that’s not the point jungkook
i’m throwing up
jk: ur right me too
i’m sorry i’m sorry i’m sorry
y/n: ???
don’t be sorry
jk: >.<
yoongi: lol
jin: tf he laughing at?
yoongi: we’re always talking about jaehyun for some reason
hobi: be fr
yoongi: …
y/n: shouldn’t you be dead from the crash or something
tae: IM SAYING LIKE
jk: maybe he’s still drunk
hobi: LMAOOOO
yoongi: i did not crash
namjoon: he just fell over guys
yoongi: right
jin: ofc the bitch with no license is defending the other bitch with no licence
y/n: typical 🙄
yoongi: why do you know he’s from connecticut
y/n: what????
namjoon: uh??
jin: wasn’t he JUST complaining about how much we talk about you know who…
hobi: kook was right this man is still off the juiceeeee
ha juice by shinee
i’m so funny wow
tae: if we think about it wtf is connecticut
what the fuck is that srsly
i hate that
what does that mean
america is so strange
another white thing i don’t get
i hate white people
jin: ur borderline white
tae: wtf is wrong with you never say shit like that again
ur borderline old
ur borderline dying
AND ur paler than me
like wtf
this poc erasure
someone get him
jk: connecticut more like connectiYUCK 🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢
EWWUUUUUU 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
hell on earth
yoongi: what
namjoon: ?
yoongi: are we talking about again
i just lost my train of thought
hobi: choo choo
y/n: chuu chuu
namjoon: jaehyun…
jk: 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤢🤢
tae: AND we are talking about poc erasure if you even care
you probably don’t
because you’re a racist
just like your father namjoon
jk: yoongi is older than namjoon
btw
tae: ok???
maybe i wasn’t even talking to yoongi
jk: ok i’m sorry
tae: it’s ok son
hobi: who the fuck were you talking to then?
tae: well yoongi but like maybe i wasn’t at the same time yk?
y/n: shut up
jk: yes
y/n: ?
tae: ok raise ur hand if you think hoseok is being unnecessarily mean to kim taehyung the 3rd today
namjoon: anyways
yoongi are you ok??
yoongi: yeah sorry my head is just all over the place rn
forget everything i said
hobi: is this due to your alcohol consumption
or is it your age getting to you LOL
since your old
older than namjoon
jk: older than namjoon
jin: jungkook is 27 btw
y/n: 23 forever
jin: that’s almost 30 yk?
hobi: at least it’s not 31
yk…
like you
jin: ok
jk: ok !!!!
namjoon: yeah i don’t know what you wanted to get out of that one…
jin: kys
ALL of you
hobi: ❤️
jk: love is love
y/n: awoman
jk: awoman
tae: if you all loved me you would send me a stack
hobi: notice how no money is being sent to your account
take that into consideration
tae: how about you consider my fist in you face
ok i take that back
hobi: don’t
y/n: bryson tiller
tae: why not :(
you didn’t even know what i was gonna say hobi >.<
hobi: namjoon tell him to shut up
namjoon: tae please
tae: yeah ok 😔
cuz you know i do NOT want the smoke
he might do me like he did jaehyun 😭🙏🏼
hobi: will you STOP bringing that up
tae: will you send me a STACK?
hobi: no
tae: then NO
namjoon: both of you stop
also where is jimin??
physically i mean
like do any of you know?
yoongi: y/n’s house i think
y/n: no he’s not??
tae: woah
jk: btw that is also my house yoongi
so y/n AND jungkook’s house
yoongi: y/n and jungkook’s house then
y/n: he’s not here
yoongi: but he was
y/n: how do you even know that??
yoongi: i just do
y/n: ok ????
yoongi: ok
jk: ok \ ^0^ /
tae: wait
jk: JIMIN WAS IN OUR HOUSE ?????
jin: keep up ohmugod
jk: LIKE PHYSICALLY IN OUR HOUSE
WHERE I SLEEP AT NIGHT???
y/n: he wasn’t in my room no
if that’s what ur asking
jk: BUT HE WAS HERE???
AFTER HE WAS SO MEAN SO EVIL?!
y/n: it’s been weeks i was gonna talk to him at some point ig
hobi: communication is key!
not key from shinee btw
jk: WHEN DID HE COME????
WHY DID HE COME????
y/n: he came a few weeks ago
august 6th ? i think
to talk about everything and apologise
jk: you let him in?
tae: LIKE…
y/n: yes
jk: and where was i?
y/n: it was a wednesday so ur boxing class?
jk: i’ve been staying back for those classes
so he came late right?
y/n: yeah
jk: did you invite him?
y/n: no he kinda just showed up
jk: and you still let him in??
y/n: yes jungkook
jk: why didn’t you tell me??
y/n: i wasn’t trying to keep it a secret or anything it just a lot
like a lot seriously
i wanted to give both me and jimin some time to process it all before we brought it all back to you guys
but i was going to tell you
all of you
jk: yeah but like it’s been weeks…
namjoon: to be fair i also did talk to
jimin and didn’t tell anyone
jk: namjoon
jin: also did that
hobi: u all know i talked to him so…
jk: guys???
i’m confused like what he said was wrong but you’re all still talking to him
like everything’s ok???
namjoon: he apologised to her kook
jk: FUCK HIS APOLOGY?????
tae you get it right?? you didn’t speak to him right??
tae: no i get it
i get you
i understand fully
but i won’t lie to you
i DID speak to him
on the phone
only for 5 minutes tho
i counted
i just wanted to make sure he didn’t yk like kill himself or something…
you know jimin is weak like that
not calling people who commit suicide weak but like calling jimin weak cuz that’s what he is
jk: TAE?????????????
tae: SORRY SUICIDE IS REAL YK?
AND LIKE IT DOESNT TAKE AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT I STILL WANT TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE
i was just
uh
checking?
namjoon: you can say you were worried about him you know that
jk: SHUT UP???£/8/8/8,&&:&,
NO HE CAN’T
YOU ALL HAVE NO BACK BONE /£2&/&&:&:
NO LOYALTY
HE BASICALLY CALLED Y/N A WHORE AND YOUR ALL FRIENDS WITH HIM AGAIN??????
LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED?????
tae: NO I’M MAD IM STILL SO FUCKING MAD THE FUCK????
FUCK JIMIN I MEAN IT
jk: you are a liar
LIKE
guys what£/£/&/&:&:
i thought you guys were better than this ???
i thought you all cared
jin: don’t be stupid
of course we care
jk: then act like it????
y/n tell them
y/n: jungkook
jk: tell them
in fact
jk added jimin to “AGUST DUI🛴🔥”
jk: tell ALL of them
y/n: jungkook please
jk: y/n seriously
jimin: hey
jk: shut the fuck up
tae: dude
i know ur upset and angry but doing this rn isn’t gonna solve anything
namjoon: he’s right jungkook
ur acting on emotion and not thinking properly right now
jk: IM not thinking properly???
was jimin thinking properly when he called her a slut and then ran away like a bitch?? was he????
namjoon: obviously not jungkook
hobi: but they’ve talked it out and he’s said sorry
jk: HIS SORRY DOESN’T MEAN SHIT
WHAT DO YOU GUYS NOT UNDERSTAND?
his fucking sorry means nothing
him saying sorry doesn’t take back the words he said
or any of the hurt he caused
namjoon: jungkook like she told us they’ve talked about it and he’s apologised
i not sure what more you want
jk: I WANT YOU GUYS NOT TO MOVE ON SO FUCKING FAST??
I WANT YOU GUYS TO AT LEAST TELL HIM HOW FUCKED UP THAT ALL WAS
BOTH PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY
he should be walking around eggshells around us rn
you guys should be giving him a hard time
not wondering where he is or whether he’s depressed or not
and you wanna know something?
after it all happened she cried for hours
hours
i have genuinely never seen her so upset
she told me not to tell anyone but i have to so guys can fucking understand
and the fact that we didn’t even know that her and jimin spoke???
does that not bother you all?????
the fact that she was “so fine” and “okay” about the whole situation but didn’t tell us that they had supposedly ‘made up’
tae: she said that she was planning on telling us
jk: yeah but she didn’t did she? it’s been weeks
she said they spoke august 6th right?
we are quite literally in a whole new month
and you ALL should know that when she doesn’t tell us things it’s because she’s upset
you should KNOW her
and how she deals with things
you all claim to care but i’m yet to see how
you know i was really excited about this
we were all you know realising
and coming to terms with this
us
i thought that we felt the same
but this has shown me that you guys don’t even feel a quarter of what i do for her
and you probably never will
the way that you all just took her word for her being fine and okay about the whole situation without actually genuinely checking in with her is insane and the way you all rushed to make sure jimin was ok was even crazier
i just
whatever
bye
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as you can probably tell this was supposed to be released last month but i tried to adjust it as much as i could
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Saw an ask about an apparent problem of people drawing Qiu whiter than he is and whitewashing. With that in mind, I think you should hold the same standard for Tamarack for artists that draw her darker than she is to outright black. Tumblr and Twitter in general have an obsession with coloring traditionally white/pale characters the complete opposite race or adding details like kinky/coiled hair and see no issue with it but raise hell the moment a poc is one hue lighter. It erases their identity just as much as everyone says whitewashing does but everyone constantly falls back on the "only whites can be racist so changing their identity in art is okay!!" pipeline
Tamarack comes from a German family and is white, so please take the same level of importance when artists "blackwash" her or any other character in your series.
You know generally, I don’t like to use this blog to as a place to act like I’m the best, most correct person in the world and respond to things where I’m simply telling an anonymous person they’re wrong. I’m just someone who has people following me because they like the stories this company makes.
However, this is something that people should know. If our POC players draw our characters having a darker skin tone than they do in-game and/or give them a different hair texture, that’s alright. I’ve fallen off on reblogging stuff on Tumblr but it’d still be liked or reposted on Twitter.
Whitewashing means far more than the literal act of a single individual making someone look white in a fanart. If a trans player wanted to headcanon a cis character was trans, that’s one thing. If a cis person decided to take the only trans character for miles and insist they are, in fact, cis, well that’s another matter entirely. Your experience with your race and your experience based on sexuality or gender aren’t the same things, it’s not a one-to-one comparison at all. But can people who don’t get it at least start to see how there can be a difference in impact here?
The people who are oppressed in this country aren’t hurting you by trying to enjoy the media that most of the time intentionally excludes them. POC weren’t the ones dehumanizing white people in horrific ways. The overwhelming majority of stories and representations of heritages out there have been and still are white people’s already. Anyone reading this who was thinking along the lines of what’s in this ask need to get comfortable understanding and accepting that. And if you don’t, maybe you should find another game because I’m not going to “protect white identities” from being drawn as people of color. In fact, I think it’s actually really nice if our characters are fun and comforting to people of color so much so that they’d like to imagine those characters being included in their own culture. I think it’s strange that someone would be angry about it.
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Okay I'm finally gonna make a regular pinned post instead of that ✨old ass✨ Ambrose one
(this is really just for my own benefit and for new followers/lurkers more than anything else but it's super neat if you read it also. ill give you 7 dollars if you do)
*throws introduction and facts about me on the table:
i'm usually called Sillo but i'm cool with any names anyone wants to give me. bitch, enemy of the state, Dick Van Dyke.
pronouns are largely she/her/hers but im trying out other pronouns like a new pair of pants. i also identify as GNC so you'll hear me refer to myself with masculine terms from time to time but i still want to be a girly girl. if that makes sense. im also cool with they/them/theirs also!!
im currently 24 years old but my dream is to one day live into the hundreds so i can be a knife wielding disillusioned bitter old lady
im poc 💖 this doesn't affect anything but i just thought id mention that
if i ever misunderstand your words or accidentally say something insensitive, offensive, or upsetting, i super duper apologize deeply, i'm autistic so i unfortunately have a hard time reading social cues, understanding people properly, or taking others' emotions into account. please please please lmk if this ever happens so that i can correct myself and do better in the future 💖
i mostly post analysis posts on wizard101 lore and its characters but take this with a grain of salt because my knowledge of the game is very limited, i forget most of what i experience and i havent played the game in maaaybe 8 years? so my observations and opinions are very outdated sorry. oopsies
i have a sideblog at @/anxiously-sideblogging if anyone wants to lurk or follow me there for non-wizard stuff. it's just my hyperfixations on kid cartoons and kid games and i just made it like 2 weeks ago so its pretty empty and cringe
This blog is 18+! i don't post super explicit things very often (I will tag these posts when I do) but overall this isn't really a kiddie friendly space
i am a hypocrite. i may like things for the same reason i may dislike things. sorry im just a lil bit messed up like that 💖
FUCK TERFS and racists and all the -phobes actually. not that the wizard101 fandom has any of these but i wanna say this just in case i get any nasties on here. get out of here 💖💖💖
If you read all that congratulations and thanks that's super cool of you! welcome to my disorganized mentally ill hell 🥰
#pinned post#text posts#ugh this is so much better im glad i got this out. ik people already know like 90% of these things about me tho#but its always polite to have a welcome mat under your door 💖💖💖💖
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(SPOILERS POSSIBLY)
I recently finished disco elysium. Like a day ago? It was a pretty cool game maybe I will replay it. I don't know if I "connected" with it as much as the fandom but I definitely understand why ppl felt so attached to it. At first I didn't know shit about the game literally at all I put my points mostly into logic and encyclopedia and little bit of pain ther/hand eye later on in the game. I started to realize at the beginning that the game was a heavily literature game and sometimes I don't hate games like that I'm ngl I will skip dialogue especially at the time I'm like "I got a case to do". Um but when I went into the library at the start of the game I realized encyclopedia gave u most of the time random facts about shit that wasn't necessarily "important" I didn't mind but when prompts would come up "in the mind" sometimes logic or ency would jump in and I'd say to myself this is pretty irrelevant right now and laugh about it. It's like my own mind was distracting me which is pretty funny cause I relate irl. I definitely felt the "deepness" of the character's dreams I've recently been haunted by my dreams. And realizing I'm not just some stupid ass cop and I had some darkness so deep the dream sequences were actually "shivers" but so interesting and pretty. Sometimes I definitely felt like I didn't understand but some parts of me did and "didn't". Maybe some of it was just for aesthetics. But it fit. It definitely made me interested in replaying the game for sure but idk when I will cause again the dialogue can be pretty heavy at times replaying it I wouldn't want to miss certain stuff. Also (correct me if I'm wrong I don't mind) but I felt like when he kneels in front of the mural of that figure I think she reminded him of his wife and I picked that option just cause. But I didn't realize he saw her as this all mighty being. Until the "final boss" of the dream sequence when she's leaving him. It was pretty sad being in love with someone and still not getting over it. How vulnerable it leaves u. I felt Harry's pain but honestly when the game was ending it made me feel like "maybe things aren't so bad for me" cause we solved the case I was happy with my choices letting the blonde hair girl go. And not seeing ruby shoot herself in the fucking face. I liked that I was super inquisitive than I thought I'd be. Something as simple as taking a mug and showing it to a "semi racist" lol and figuring out he had a piece of the armor. That's something I really loved about the game no lead was untouchable or insignificant. I kinda wish I got to see what happened in the end but I guess u can infer. I felt like The union guy was using us from the start so I didn't get the 2 ppl sigs (but I got 2 random drunks) so I didn't know if still count toward the construction stuff. And honestly him thinking we'd do whatever he wanted cause I was a dumbass cop was fitting b/c as the player I didn't know who to trust, I just wanted to figure out the case and have some resources since I was bone dry in a bender I had no memory of. All in all the game was interesting as hell if u like story driven rpg. Choices matter type deal. I hated that ppl genuinely hated the blonde hair chick cause she lied. I think it's such a stretch cause yeah it was a bit of a run around she was helpful to the case.(please I'm not looking for debates) I'm just saying she had her reasons for lying. And I wasn't surprised she later on left. I wish we could've helped them more it felt nice helping them even if I helped them "escape" they weren't bad ppl. Most of the revachol ppl weren't just different. I never actually "hated" anyone in the game lol. Everybody was poor and had some attitude but not bad I liked most of the characters tbh. Kim was my nigha for sure and the fact u could actually take the jackets from those dudes was pretty funny. Uh yeah good game cool game. The fucking phasmid showing up AT THE END OF THR GAME I WAS LIKE WTF?? Lol we actually got a picture of it too. Anyways Harry yeah ur depressed now but u have a good job ur a good person and u are disco??
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hello
this is the new version of @foxtail1311-archive bcuz tumblr shadowbanned the hell out of me
our old ass outdated intro from that:
hello there
tis i
name: foxtail, fox, frogger, starlight, starry, etc etc
pronouns: collectively he/they
frog feeling that not evveybody see this so editing with important message: FROG IS A MINOR! It is old enough to be on this site but reminder that it does not want ANY nsfw on its blog (yes you can reblog what you want but do not add nsfw additions to frogs posts)
little about me:
am low support need autism. prefer identity first language, will mostly use identity first unless for person specifying prefer person first. may use words wrong due to many communication difficulties, please just let know if saying something wrong and will work to correct! want to be nice and respect to everyone. accidental mimic speech pattern of those around me, so if different posts in different speech it not on purpose and not to make fun of/mock
blog mostly for silly fun times, may talk about my experiences as high masking low support need able bodied autism but is not meant to cover other voices or speak for all community! all are welcome to share their experiences, even if differ from me
have spins in ajr, music, frogs, doors (may be hyperfixate???), rockabye the musical, dropout/dimension 20
and very interest in tma
so expect lots of those
am also the very queer
uhhh i thinks that is all for now?
not really any dni, terfs and homophobes and stuff, ableists, racists, all that i guess
adding to this: no nsfw. not hating on people who post that but it does not want that on its blog
if am say something wrong please tell politely, need communicate w me in direct clear language ottherwise may misinterpret
if unnecessary mean, will request go away. if things i post about make angry because am talking about queer or autism and not because i accidental make mistake, also please go
no want hate
will update with userboxes soon! (<- he says, lying)
also forgor:
Sideblogs!!
@fenristhevillagewizard
@foxtale1311
@robinsrambles
@yourleastfavoritedecoration
@puptail1311
under the cut is our nitro comms stuffs:
Writing
Poetry: 1 month Nitro Basic OneShot Fics/Stories: 1 month Normal Nitro
We will do:
Fandoms in our fandom list
Ship fics
Angst
Comfort
We will not do:
MAPs
NSFW/Smut
RPF
Fandom List:
The Magnus Archives/The Magnus Protocol
Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Dead End Paranormal Park
Bluey
Ducktales
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
My Little Pony
The Murderbot Diaries
Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage/Project Sekai
The Percy Jackson Serieses/Rick Riordian’s books
Little Witch Academia
The Hollow
Glitch Techs
Skylanders
Hilda
Carmen Sandiego
Dimension 20! (All seasons of Fantasy High, Burrows End, Neverafter, Mentopolis, A Starstruck Odyssey, Time Quangle)
If there is a fandom you want that is not on this list, you are welcome to ask, I’ve probably forgotten some!
Art
We will do art of any character, they do not have to be on the fandom list! This includes original characters and real people.
Bust Sketch: 1 month Nitro Premium
Full Body Sketch: 1 year Nitro Basic
Once I get our drawing tablet fixed I will update this with digital prices!
You can DM us for more information on discord at @foxtail1311
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Discuss DABewarehub's post about my worst list. This will be know that nick rejected my ban appeal on deviantart
"Lets discuss this shall we?. FIrst things first - There is ZERO evidence of ANY claims made towards these users, no archives, no screenshots, no links to PROVE the accusations for this post. At this point this is harassment and Libel."
-@dabewarehub You did zero evidence out of me first, You have no zero proof that i broke the dA rules, Second, There is no proof that i broke the dA rules. You are such a fucking liar and blaiming me for no reason. You have no any claims to be me and trying to frame me, If you thinks that this is a zero evidence out of you, Its gonna be a fucking real moron. Prove it, I already roast your post.
"Now, Onto the post at hand - Lets review some of these users you've mentioned."
-Go ahead asshole, Do it! And i will keep continue to roast your post because you trying to frame me or my tumblr account.
"First - Adrielferrer's Archive - Just to help you out. Harassement = These we can agree on. Judging by their posts they are known to create posts that are problematic and refuses to let shit die. We also agree that the post where they said they deleted everything bout you and yet has still been up is considered harassment. So (claps) congrats. We agree on something."
-You think this would help? Hell no, Adriel would lying to me if he trying to help me, And he doesn't fucking trust me since 2023 when ilia force me to ignore daniel when i got blocked by him, And you see when i trying to appeal my ban? Nick rejected my ban appeal because of her and her friends, Or maybe it was you because you are the one who got my deviantart account banned, I have right to created my dA career without you and your friends so they can blocked me on dA, Not reporting me. And luckly you will never get my tumblr account banned because you trying to report me on tumblr. So what are you gonna do? A frame me for no reason? How about i should discuss your post or any others people that i hate.
"Manipulator = Not sure about this one. They do seem to have that quality when it comes to their posts. Kinda gaslighting and guilt tripping. talking about how users "betray" them cause those users don't agree with their actions. It does seem that way. So again We agree"
Have you seen a wiki about manipulator like kim il sung has? Kim il sung has brainwashed people who started to invaded south korea, And it was came out from korean war when i wasn't born in 1950s, And i disagreed with your bullshit post because of your post you made. Why don't you deal with it or any others girls you don't like? Other girls on deviantart was surely harassment by evie when she got a exposed, This would be a real evidence of her since they archive her post, And i will also archive your post so this will be a REAL evidence of you.
"Sorry, What? You do realize there has only been 1 (ONE) Adolf Hitler in history. So are you saying that Adriel is acting like Hitler and is worse then Evie? If so, please correct your grammar. (Hitler only had those who were WHITE, blonde hair and blue eyes around him. He committed Mass murder because of his own predjuice against his OWN ROOTS. Adriel hasn't committed Murder that we know of and doesn't go around calling people racist names)."
-Yeah yeah yeah whatever you say, I pretty sure i would have a correct my grammar because i trying to fix my grammar. And yes, He is acting like hitler and worse than evie. He is a gaslighter and i shouldn't let people see his status update, If i let people then. Then they will get brainwashed, I know adriel didn't committed mass murder when hitler did this during a WW2, If he did. Then will go to jail, This would have a prison in spanish because i haven't travel to madrid before.
"It's not really forcing. Granted their posts are DEMANDING but there's no force to it. People have the right to refuse and say no, HOWEVER we have noticed that if you refuse their demand you are apparently a "traitor" to them. (eye roll)"
-Yes it does forcing, I don't know he threated people to block me on YT because he is a traitor like you who likes to block people. And i have the right to refuse to leave him alone because i can't let them attack my social media account. And you are a traitor who likes to attack minor.
"We will agree in some cases we did see uncalled for actions/words towards other users, but haven't really seen cyberbullying. Please show proof of your claims."
-I will, But soon. And if you wanna trying to roast me, You can't. And there is nothing to deal about it. And if you want me to deal with adriel, I can't. I have right to stop him because i have to keep posting my community tab.
"OH NO. blocking someone is now apparently a crime in your eyes. You do know that you just legit DEMANDED us to block your new username on dA (even though we don't know what it is YET!!!) and you are bitching and moaning because Adriel is using memes and blocking this princess person? (shakes head). First: Meme's are created by anyone. Even you create them and haven't seen you give credit to the ORIGINAL people you stoled from so.. that's moot. As for blocking Princess - they have that right. Just like you have the right to block us or block Adriel"
-Cut the bullshit about the words such as "Oh No", "Have a nice day", And etc. And how does blocking someone apparently a crime in my eyes when it has no proof? It isn't a fucking crime because the news didn't see it, You do know that you just also legit DEMANDED us to report my social media account, Such as twitter, youtube, instagram, tumblr, deviantart, and etc. And you are bitch too and i ain't moaning. And i already reply at her to cheer her up, Adriel only cares about his fans. And there is no way i am moaning because moaning is from NSFW or any adults people can do, Not minors. Because minors cannot moaning. And i don't stealing a people's memes because it's not mine. Just like you have the right to deal with someone and not to report innocent people on dA.
"Really? Really? Yelling is an "evil" trait to you? Jeez. We'd hate to hear/read about what you think of your parents when they yell or ground you for your behavior. And if you don't like "strong language" why do you cuss? hmm?"
-Prove it, Asshole, I can say the strong language because i do. And there is no ways to stop my career, Also leave my parents and my family alone. They didn't anything wrong to me and they don't ground me because i am from slovakia. And i am not from USA like you.
"We believe you meant "becoming" and also, how is she "dangerous". She hasn't killed anybody, She hasn't commited any felonies. So in what way is she dangerous? Are you referring that she's dangerous to your precious "Deviantart Career"? (btw. a career is something you get PAID for. Last time we checked, you didn't have any subs, not sure if you got commissions, but don't think you earned an actual LIVING off of your 'dA career'. Seriously.)"
-So what? I still don't care if she hasn't commited any felonies or killed anybody, So in what way is she dangerous? A causing innocent people to get banned from deviantart, "Are you referring that she's dangerous to your precious "Deviantart Career"?" Yes, She is a fucking dangerous woman because she likes to report innocent people. And you think i didn't any subs because i have a youtube? Oh yes i have any subs and my subscribers is gonna be reach 10K. The self-proclaimed masters of demands without force. It's like being hit with a velvet hammer – sure, they're not holding a gun to your head, but the pressure is unmistakable.
"There's a fine fine line between being blunt - trolling and cyberbullying. She hasn't actually cyberbullied anyone and any of the users she's called out are actually known to be toxic people who are the TRUE cyberbullies and harassers."
-The self-appointed judge and jury of the internet, here to enlighten us on the fine art of cyberbullying. Apparently, in their world, there's a 'fine fine line' between being blunt and trolling, and, well, full-blown cyberbullying. How noble of them to enlighten us mere mortals!But fear not, dear sucker, for you is here to set the record straight. They haven't actually cyberbullied anyone – oh no, perish the thought! Instead, they've taken it upon themselves to call out those 'toxic' individuals who are the real cyberbullies and harassers. How convenient! It's like the classic tale of the pot calling the kettle black, but with a twist of self-righteousness. Because in dabewarehub's universe, they're not just pointing fingers; they're shining beacons of truth and virtue in a sea of darkness. Bravo, dabewarehub, for showing us all the true meaning of hypocrisy wrapped in a thin veil of righteousness! And i hope you step on a lego.
"In what way? Seriously. You need to give evidence of your claims. The only time she comments about the users she has issues with if they do it first. Maybe if you all just left her the fuck alone. none of you would be mentioned."
-People cannot left her alone because she is evil, the paragon of innocence in the face of accusations. "mentioned?" they inquire innocently, as if they've never wielded their keyboard like a weapon before. "In what way?" they feign ignorance, conveniently forgetting their own digital footprints of aggression. But fear not, if you would do, Then you gonna trying accused with quick to provide a solution: evidence. Yes, evidence! Because apparently, in their world, allegations are merely hot air unless backed by concrete proof.And oh, the irony! You insists they only comment on users who provoke them first, as if they're merely innocent bystanders pushed to the brink. But perhaps, just perhaps, if they didn't dive headfirst into every online scuffle like a bull in a china shop, they wouldn't find themselves in these precarious situations. So, to all those who dare cross paths with you, take heed: if you simply left them alone, perhaps you wouldn't be subjected to their digital wrath. But where's the fun in that, when there's a perfectly good soapbox to stand on and fingers itching to type out another righteous rebuttal?
"What fucking power? being a senior member only gives you a cute little badge, access to a forum in community and a discord server. She doesn't work for dA and even if she did she'd have a good sense of doing research FIRST before jumping the gun and playing the blame game like some other users do (looks at you)"
-You don't know how to became a sussy baka power like her, If she gave me a badge, Then why the fuck did she reported me? Or maybe it was you because i already know you get caught. the humble denier of power, the self-proclaimed underdog fighting against the tyranny of... well, their own imagination, apparently. "Abusing her power?" they scoff incredulously, as if the mere notion were as laughable as a clown riding a unicycle. But let's break it down, shall we? Being a senior member might only grant them a 'cute little badge' and access to a forum and a Discord server, but oh, what power they wield within those digital realms! It's like a miniature kingdom where they reign supreme, dispensing justice and righteousness with a mere keystroke. And let's not forget their claim to not working for dA – because clearly, that absolves them of any responsibility, right? Never mind the influence they hold within the community, the sway they carry with their words. No, no, You just wanna keep going and during a harmless bystander, innocently observing the chaos they sow. But fear not, dear sussy baka, for you is here to remind us all of their impeccable sense of research, their unwavering dedication to truth and justice. Because, you see, they're not like those other users who play the blame game without a second thought. Oh no, they're far too noble for such frivolous antics. So, to all those who dare accuse you of abusing their power, take heed: for in their eyes, they are but humble peasants, basking in the glow of their own self-righteousness. And woe unto those who dare challenge their reign – for they shall be met with a swift and merciless roast.
"You just listed everyone. EVERYONE can be a threat when it comes to reporting. She reports ban evaders, block evaders and coppa violations. If you all don't like to be reported, don't break dA rules. It's really REALLY that simple."
-You should only stop framed me about breaking dA rules because it's fucking annoying, And i don't fucking breaking dA rules for millions times i have to fucking say that. The ever-vigilant guardian of dA's rules, wielding the mighty sword of... wait for it... REPORTING! "Report threat?" they sneer, as if the mere act of reporting were akin to summoning an army of digital demons to wreak havoc upon the unsuspecting masses. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a simple truth: You is the judge, jury, and executioner of dA's digital domain. They report ban evaders, block evaders, and COPPA violations with the fervor of a medieval inquisitor, hunting down heretics in the darkest corners of the internet. And oh, how they love to remind us all of the simplicity of their noble quest: if you don't want to be reported, simply don't break dA's rules. It's as easy as pie, or so they claim. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in your world, the line between righteous justice and vengeful retribution is as thin as a pixel on a screen. So, to all those who dare question dabewarehub's authority, take heed: for they are the gatekeepers of dA's sacred laws, the defenders of digital decency. And woe unto those who dare cross them – for they shall be met with the swift and merciless wrath of the REPORT BUTTON!
"It's funny that you mention this cause you are also guilty of this but we would love to see your proof of these things"
-You are gonna get guilty, not me, And are you fucking gay if you say love? Prove it you are gay. The master of deflection and denial, expertly wielding the weapons of gaslighting, manipulation, and... lying? "It's funny that you mention this," they declare with a smirk, as if the very accusations levied against them were nothing more than a jest. But fear not, Dear sussy baka, For you is quick to turn the tables, casting doubt upon the very credibility of their accuser. "We would love to see your proof," they declare with mock sincerity, as if the burden of evidence lay solely upon the shoulders of their detractors. But let's not be fooled by their feigned innocence, for beneath that facade lies a cunning strategist, adept at twisting words and distorting reality to suit their own narrative. Gaslighting? Manipulation? Lying? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire of someone else's vendetta. So, to all those who dare accuse you of such heinous crimes, take heed: for they are the masters of misdirection, the architects of ambiguity. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of the truth – for they shall be met with the cold, hard reality of their gaslit world.
"Please show proof of this. You're getting your information for those who have "beef" with her, they aren't really a "reliable source" and again, you've done the same things. Still have screenshots of the emails you sent to Ilia, Evie has hers. Should we include those?"
-I said this will be soon until i get then, I cares about my information but for you, You can't. The accuser turned defender, boldly challenging the accusations of blackmailing and fake allegations. "Please show proof of this," they demand with a smirk, as if the burden of evidence were not a two-way street but a one-way cul-de-sac conveniently leading away from their doorstep. But let's not be fooled by their theatrical bravado, for beneath that facade lies a tangled web of deceit and manipulation. "You're getting your information from those who have 'beef' with her," they scoff, dismissing the credibility of their detractors with a wave of their digital hand. And oh, the irony! Dabewarehub dares to cast doubt upon the reliability of their sources, all the while clutching onto their own arsenal of damning evidence like a shield against the onslaught of truth. "Still have screenshots of the emails you sent to Ilia, Evie has hers," they boast, as if the mere threat of exposure were enough to silence their critics. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the truth is a malleable commodity, to be shaped and molded to fit their own agenda. Blackmailing? Fake allegations? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply the innocent victims of a vast conspiracy orchestrated by their enemies. So, to all those who dare accuse you of such nefarious deeds, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deception. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their vindictive wrath.
"Are you talking about her NSFW? if so, she's an adult. If you don't want to see nsfw turn your mature filter on. She has every RIGHT to draw what she wants. Just like you have every right to "Draw" whatever you want."
-Are you sure? I don't know this would be work because i am talking about a disturbing pictures such as gore, violence, and etc. The defender of artistic freedom, boldly brushing off accusations of disturbing pictures with a nonchalant wave of their keyboard. "Are you talking about her NSFW?" they inquire, as if the mere mention of adult content were enough to absolve all sins. But let's not be fooled by their flippant dismissal, for beneath that facade lies a thinly veiled attempt to deflect criticism. "She's an adult," they declare, as if age were a shield against moral scrutiny. "If you don't want to see NSFW, turn your mature filter on," they suggest, conveniently ignoring the fact that not all disturbing content can be filtered out with a simple click. And oh, the hypocrisy! You champions the right to draw whatever one pleases, as if artistic freedom were a carte blanche to unleash a torrent of disturbing imagery upon unsuspecting viewers. "Just like you have every right to 'draw' whatever you want," they proclaim, as if there were no difference between creative expression and outright grotesquery. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the line between art and obscenity is as blurred as a pixelated image on a computer screen. Disturbing pictures? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply the defenders of artistic autonomy, bravely fighting against the tyranny of censorship. So, to all those who dare question dabewarehub's taste in art, take heed: for they are the arbiters of aesthetic excellence, the guardians of creative liberty. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of artistic expression – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal.
"Proof please."
-I told you i will show you proof soon, Just waiting for few months.
"Where's your proof? She admited that she reported you up until September 14, 2023 and she has left you alone sense. Also, again just a reminder, The original owner of this dAbewarehub was actually the one who got you banned several times"
-So are you not gonna listening to me when i told you that i can show you soon? Fine then, I am gonna more write this to your post. :)
-The self-appointed prosecutor, demanding proof with the tenacity of a bulldog sinking its teeth into a bone. "Where's your proof?" they demand, as if the burden of evidence were not a shared responsibility but a one-sided game of cat and mouse. But let's not be fooled by their selective memory, for beneath that facade lies a convenient narrative designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "She admitted that she reported you," they claim triumphantly, conveniently omitting any mention of their own role in the saga. And oh, how convenient! You graciously informs us that they've left me alone since September 14, 2023, as if that erases the years of harassment and hostility that preceded it. "Just a reminder," they add with a smug grin, as if to imply that you somehow deserved the treatment you received. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the truth is a fragile thing, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "The original owner of this dAbewarehub was actually the one who got you banned several times," they declare, as if to shift the blame onto a convenient scapegoat. So, to all those who dare challenge your version of reality, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare question their authority – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully curated selection of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"It's threatened* not threated. Also, she didn't threaten to you ban you or threatened someone to ban you. She has told you repeatedly to leave her alone or she will report you for harassment."
-Sometimes i made a mistake, And yes she does threaten to ban me on deviantart, And you know i told her that i will not leave her alone because she is scumbag who forced daniel to report me, How about you ask someone to appeal my ban? Nick does not appect my ban appeal and he won't let me go, So thats why i created a another account on dA.
"Proof please, what screenshots is she faking? We were forwarded the emails you sent her and we have to say Richard. Wow. That is a lot of blackmailing, gaslighting and manipulation. Also, she primarily used archive when she called out. How can you "fake screenshot" when archive.today saves the site as it appears? Hmm?"
-If you already know i blackmail her, I don't blackmailing, Gaslighting, Manipulation, I only stop others people who cannot allowed to bullies people. And i only mailing her because i found her gmail that she has. The purveyor of truth and justice, boldly calling out accusations of fake screenshotting with all the righteous fury of a digital crusader. "Proof please," they demand, as if the mere suggestion of deception were nothing more than a fanciful tale spun by their enemies. But let's not be fooled by their theatrical indignation, for beneath that facade lies a carefully crafted narrative designed to deflect attention from their own misdeeds. "What screenshots is she faking?" they inquire innocently, conveniently ignoring the mountain of evidence that threatens to bury them alive. And oh, the audacity! You dares to insinuate that yours, dear eviejulia, are the true villain of this story, wielding the tools of blackmailing, gaslighting, and manipulation like a twisted puppet master pulling the strings of fate. "Wow. That is a lot," they declare with mock surprise, as if the contents of those forwarded emails were anything less than a digital confession. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, truth is a fluid concept, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "She primarily used archive when she called out," they boast, as if to imply that their methods are beyond reproach. "How can you 'fake screenshot' when archive.today saves the site as it appears?" they challenge, as if technological prowess were a shield against moral culpability. So, to all those who dare question your integrity, take heed: for they are the masters of deception, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"Not a thing. Like Evie, Ilia reports coppa violations (users under the age of 13. It's illegal and the law for users who are under the age of 13 to be on deviantart. In fact most websites have that very same rule), Block evaders and ban evaders. So. How is it a "threat" when it's users who break dA rules?"
-I am not a under the age of 13 anymore, And i used to have deviantart back in 2021 when my old previous account from 2021 got hacked. And the defender of dA's digital decree, boldly dismissing accusations of report threats with all the bravado of a knight in shining armor. "Not a thing," they declare with a flourish, as if the very notion were as inconsequential as a speck of dust in the digital wind. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a convenient reinterpretation of reality designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "Like Evie, Ilia reports COPPA violations," they proclaim proudly, conveniently omitting any mention of their own role in the digital witch hunt. And oh, the hypocrisy! You champions the noble cause of enforcing dA's rules, all the while conveniently ignoring the collateral damage left in their wake. "It's illegal," they declare with a sense of moral superiority, as if the ends justify the means in their quest for digital justice. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the rule of law is a flexible concept, easily bent to suit their own agenda. "How is it a 'threat' when it's users who break dA rules?" they challenge, as if the mere act of enforcing those rules were beyond reproach. So, to all those who dare question your authority, take heed: for they are the self-appointed guardians of dA's digital domain, the arbiters of online justice. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of the rules – for they shall be met with the full force of their righteous wrath, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"Proof please. We haven't seen any proof of your claims for harassment. In fact Ilia is probably the only one who tries to be logical with users who are breaking the rules by showing them the link to the rule and let them know. Granted she was blunt and rude to you and if memory serves us correctly, she's already apologized for that. She hasn't talked about you in MONTHS on any of her platforms and yet here you are continuing your own misery. (aka your drama)"
-I think you didn't listen to me when i can show you soon as i said, And i knew it was her, That sucker woman logical me and claimed to be breaking dA rules when i DIDN'T breaking the FUCKING dA rules. The grand arbiter of harassment accusations, demanding proof with the haughty air of a digital judge presiding over their virtual courtroom. "Proof please," they declare with a flick of their digital gavel, as if the very notion of harassment were nothing more than a figment of your imagination. But let's not be fooled by their self-righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a carefully constructed narrative designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "We haven't seen any proof of your claims for harassment," they proclaim proudly, conveniently ignoring the avalanche of evidence that threatens to bury them alive. And oh, the audacity! Your friends dares to paint Ilia as the voice of reason in a sea of chaos, the lone beacon of logic amidst the digital tumult. "She's already apologized for that," they boast, as if a mere apology were enough to erase the scars of their past transgressions. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in her world, forgiveness is a fleeting commodity, easily revoked at a moment's notice. "She hasn't talked about you in MONTHS," they declare with a hint of exasperation, as if your mere existence were an affront to their delicate sensibilities. So, to all those who dare accuse devil people of harassment, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"You are claiming she's racist cause she assumed a user who goes by "blackdawg" or whatever the hell that username is = as you? She hasn't ONCE displayed any behaviors of racism. and you would have to show proof of this and her reporting an account she BELIEVED it was YOU because of the defending / block evading that was going on after you and her's spat - Yeah. Anyone would auto think that account was yours. Well, except you and your "friends""
-This username will be NOT me, I believe it was made by someone when i DO not own this. And I also belived it's your fault because of your moron post. The self-appointed defender against accusations of racism, boldly challenging claims with the fervor of a digital warrior. "You are claiming she's racist," they declare with a scoff, as if the very notion were as preposterous as a unicorn prancing through cyberspace. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a thinly veiled attempt to rewrite history and absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "She hasn't ONCE displayed any behaviors of racism," they proclaim proudly, conveniently ignoring the subtle biases that permeate their every digital interaction. And oh, the audacity! You dares to justify their assumptions based on a mere username, as if the color of one's digital moniker were a reliable indicator of their true identity. "Anyone would auto think that account was yours," they declare with a sense of certainty, as if their own biases were somehow beyond reproach. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in your mom, the truth is a malleable concept, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "Except you and your 'friends,'" they add with a hint of disdain, as if your refusal to conform to their narrative were somehow a mark of guilt. So, to all those who dare accuse you of racism, take heed: for they are the masters of deflection, the architects of denial. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
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"Liking HP makes you a Transphobe" says the person and then uses Twitter/X even though it is now owned by a Transphobe. Hating JKR is understandable, but hating on people for simply liking Harry Potter is dumb. At this point a lot of artists/singers/authors/etc have done bad things and people still listen to their songs/watch their movies/ etc. Like for example listening to Ramstein, using Twitter/X. The problem is that you do not know if the product you by or the media you consume is made by a homophobic/transphobic or any other bad person. Liking HP doesn't make someone a transphobic/homophobic or racist person liking AOT or Hetalia doesn't make you a Nazi Supporting JKR and her opinion does. I don't care about JKR. She has no place in my life. The HP world and the Hogwarts that exist inside my headcanons is the gayest place on earth. For some people its hard to let go of Harry Potter...for me Harry Potter was one of the few good things that happened to me in my childhood. It was a way for me to escape the hell that was going on. I cannot let go of Harry Potter because its a safe space for my inner child. The same goes for other shows and medias of course. I have a hard time letting go of the few things that were good in my childhood. Because if I let those things go...there is nothing left, but for me to feel sorry for the child version of myself. To be honest all those hate that exist towards people that like HP makes me anxious. I do understand why people hate JKR (I hate her too) and do not want to support her. But hating on people just for liking HP is stupid. It makes me anxious and it only makes me overthink things. Its usually start with me questioning myself and ends with me hating myself even more than I already do. Even though none of this is true. I am not transphobic or homophobic or anything like that. They're all just people. As long as they are good people that's all that matters. (Honestly everything that has to do with genders or pronounces scares me because they're so many of them and I am usually so anxious when talking to people that I forget their names. People in general scare me because there are so many people that have nothing better to do than hate/bully/harass people on the internet.) If you truly care about the transgender people than maybe you should do stuff to truly support them like boycotting Universal Studios or Legos (because JKR is getting a lot of money from the lego stuff). By hating/bullying/harassing people on the internet for simply liking HP is a bad way to support transgender people. I am aware of the hate I might get for this, but the only hate I accept are from the Transgender people. The transgender people can shit however they please its their right to disagree and even argue with my opinion. But I refuse to listen to people that use twitter/X because they were programmed on sending death threats to people instead of having civil discussions. Thank you for coming to my random anxiety rant. Please stay respectful when you shit on me...(Also if I used a wrong term for something please correct me. English is not my first language and when I randomly have anxiety rant I rant first and think later)
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Hi! If you, like me, are a white person who looks at and gets justifiably angry at shit like the literal return of segregation and the murder of innocent BIPOC, you 1, probably care a great deal about BIPOC and 2, want to do something about it. Here's a lil bit of Allyship 101 if you still need that push to be loudly, proudly anti-racist (BIPOC friends, if I get anything wrong please correct me and I will amend my statement).
It is way long past time that we fucking listen to BIPOC and what they need from us, and use our privilege for good rather than subjugation.
Use your voice, let racist assholes know that you will not tolerate racist asshole behavior, be aware of and accountable for your own privilege, and most importantly, do what you can to protect those who are in danger.
If you see someone in danger, HELP THEM. If you see someone being a racist asshole, CALL THEM OUT. If you have relatives and/or friends who propagate racism, CALL THEM OUT. I know it's way too fucking easy to look the other way, and that potentially saying the wrong thing is scary, but it's long, LONG past time to fucking STAND THE FUCK UP with your fellow humans in their time of need.
Educate yourself on BIPOC history and cultures. You do not have to know everything, but you absolutely should know the basics and BIPOC are sick and tired of explaining shit to every single white person who doesn't know what the hell Tulsa refers to or why Columbus Day is a problem. That being said, if you have specific questions, and need to ask, do so in a manner that is both respectful and mindful of the person you are asking. If nothing else, Google can certainly help.
DO NOT speak over BIPOC, DO NOT speak for POC. Speak WITH them, and fucking LISTEN to what they need, then carry the message forward. If you say/do something wrong and they tell you it was wrong, do not get butthurt. Apologize, correct the behavior, and move forward.
We are to be allies. Not saviors. Not heroes. Not leaders. Allies. Yes they need our help, and have done for far longer than any of us have been alive. But they do not need our pity or our charity or our leadership. They can and have been leading the fight for racial justice, and will continue to do so. We are here to assist them in their struggle, to help ease the burden, and to fight fights (both physical and social I should add) that are safe for us but unsafe for them.
Look out for the people around you, listen to them, and realize that this is a fight that can only be won by working together and remembering above all that this is not about us.
Thank you and be safe <3
Safety Announcement Part 2:
Hello mutuals, followers, and strangers! Recently, Mississippi and Florida have started to want to resurface Jim Crow, with Mississippi wanting to pass that awful law and Florida's governor, Ron Desantis, not wanting anybody to learn about critical race theory and banning our books of our history. Because I believe other states, especially southern ones, are going to try to reenact this law, I am giving you a safety announcement.
All African Americans and other POC ethnic groups should be very careful when going out. Have any sort of defense, alarm, or spray on you in the case of dangerous racist individuals targeting you. Do not go out at night, regardless of whether you need to go to the store, gas station, etc. Make sure the area you live in isn't racist, and if so, put defense systems in your home. If your area is too dangerous, I suggest you look at the resources I provided below, which are the best I could find, to see which state is better to move to.
I hope all of you the best.
- Al
State Resources:
Defense Resources:
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Hi just wanted to say that I really like the way you think about Damara.
Like I really like her, but I kinda of hate her character because of the way Hussie handles her.
There is also the japonese/Asian stereotype thing, I don't mind Damara being like Japonese or whatever, In fact I kinda of like it?(Im probably bias cause Im japonese, but still) but the way that it was written makes it look so insulting and kinda of fetishy an uh its just gross...
Also I have a thing againt her desing, its just-
Idk how to explain it, it just tickles me the wrong way. I guess it has to do with the fact that her clothes look far more chinese than japonese and the fact that she has those sticks coming out of her hair and it looks like chopsticks(thats not a thing people please stop drawing japones people with that, like draw her with an kushi or a kogai or like something..)
Idk man it just makes me so sad and grossed out…
So uh, thank you for the refreshing takes on Damara?
Hey, I’m glad you like my thoughts on Damara! It means a lot, really! She, like all of the Alpha Trolls, has fantastic potential, though it was mostly squandered by them being written by… Well, Hussie. Genuinely, I think if she wasn’t written with such heavy-handed Fetishism and Misogyny, she would have honestly been one of the best characters in that specific cast! Alas, we can’t all have nice things, I suppose…
Her design always struck me the wrong way, too. You can tell she was designed without any due respect or sensitivity in mind- Hussie wasn’t designing her with “Japanese Woman” in mind, he was designing her with “Generic Eastern Asian Woman” in mind. She’s a stereotype in aesthetic, basically, and it’s written plainly and shamelessly across the entirety of her character design.
[DISCLAIMER: Take my discussion of this with a few grains of salt- I am a Westerner, and while I know a thing or two about some Chinese and Japanese history, I am not speaking from personal experience, nor am I an expert. I am guaranteed to get something wrong- these are just the thoughts I have on the matter from my own limited perspective. Feel free to correct anything I get wrong. Thank you.]
Hussie seemed to have been going for a “Pseudo-Traditional Oriental” Aesthetic for her, but it kind of just sucks, lol. Like, Racist execution aside, it’s incredibly plain, and nothing about it truly makes sense! Her shirt almost reads as Hussie halfheartedly making an attempt at drawing a Qipao, which could have been a very interesting display of her being a Time Player, considering those are essentially Flapper Dresses that are constantly evolving over time but… That doesn’t seem intentional. I am not about to give Hussie undue credit. Considering everything else about Damara, they probably just drew the most “Generic Eastern Asian” outfit they could think of and called it a day. It doesn’t even fold over the body- the neckline and the stripe going down the body aren’t folds, they kind of just look… Printed on. Even with all this aside, the Qipao is something that belongs more to Chinese culture than it does Japanese culture.
The hair hurts me in its level of stereotypicality, but it seems like a natural progression of whatever was going on with Aradia’s hair. I just wish the bastard didn’t complete the look with the Totally-Not-Chopsticks. Literally any other style of Kanzashi would have worked. Hell, it could’ve even been one hairpin that just splits off into prongs at the top to resemble the symbol for Aries, but… Nah, gotta have that chopsticks look! Painful, painful thing.
#for sov we’re definitely gunning for a more… cyberpunk style for her. very ghost in the shell.#japan’s cyberpunk is always gorgeous and cyberpunk is a pretty important genre for sovereignstuck as a whole#so… win/win!#homestuck#homestuck meta#alpha trolls#beforan trolls#dancestors#damara megido#damara.pdf#nekro.pdf#nekro.sms
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Cancel Culture and “Educating” On Twitter
WARNING: THERE IS A LOT OF BIAS AND OPINIONS IN THIS, I WAS JUST RANTING MY THOUGHTS ON TWITTER.
thank you and enjoy :D
Before quarantine, many content creators were not as big as they are now—Dream, Tommyinnit, Tubbo, Ranboo, Corpse, so on so forth. They have grown enormously ever since the start of lockdown. With growing that fast in under a year, a vast fanbase starts to form as well. Twitter has now almost wholly controlled the MCYT fandom (Minecraft Youtubers) and having at least one to two things on the trending tab about their content creators. Many things can go wrong with a huge fanbase. But having a fanbase that is controlling a big social media site makes it worse. We have seen some of those moments throughout this year.
Twitter has two sides when they want to give content creators criticism. It’s either “educating” them with threads or just bluntly saying how they need to get better. However, both things start with the “trigger warning” represented like this: //(insert content creator name) neg. The neg is short for negative. Many of those negative thoughts get trending whenever a content creator does something their fandom doesn’t like. It’s almost expecting them to be perfect. They analyze every tweet and move their content creator makes. Once they finally find them trip a little, they announce it. Now there are some relatively rare times where Twitter is correct. As in making content creators stop some type of ACTUAL hurtful behavior. (when I refer to actual I mean behavior that affects EVERYONE on social media, not just Twitter. So, when people on other social media sites are talking about it, and are having similar views.) In this situation, you would expect them to use the educating type of idea. Well, no. Twitter users like to make it more threatening, and from what I understand, it makes the content creators understand better…? This is just wrong and disgusting to find these tweets about these small mistakes these content creators make.
Talking about those content creators. Each of them resolves the problem(s) differently. It’s either writing a lengthy apology on Twitter or apologizing on stream. Sometimes, their apologies are well made, and Twitter is happy. But if they are not good enough, people would tweet things as in, “what a half-hearted apology” or “what type of apology is that”. Usually, those apologies that aren’t the best are like that because of constant Twitter pressure. Yup, who would have known. If a content creator is still active during the trending of their name, like trying to get a video out, Twitter will start attacking them. In short, Twitter expects the BEST apology in a short amount of time. What they don’t understand is that content creators also need to figure out what the hell they did wrong. It’s not easy. Twitter doesn’t understand the stress of having thousands of people constantly attacking you on the spot. Twitter just thinks they know.
Now, you see how I keep referring to Twitter and only Twitter. Well, on other platforms like Tumblr and Youtube, people have very different opinions compared to Twitter. If it’s something to do with people of color (POC), Twitter is the one to over-react in these types of situations, while POC on other platforms seems to just laugh at that joke. Most of these “over-reactions” are because most of these people tweeting are white, not POC. Pretty much, it’s just white people speaking for POC. To make it clear, if you are someone who is ACTUALLY hurt by what the joke targets, go ahead and voice your opinion. It's just, I HATE IT when white people speak for POC. Expressed by many POC, they don’t like that and never will. So, in short, Twitter is just a place with overly sensitive users. (haha)
Now, my opinion on this whole thing. As a POC, most of these jokes that seem to hurt Twitter are honestly not that bad; they are pretty funny. Sometimes, I don’t understand how people get so overly sensitive over those jokes. I'm not saying that you can't hate on them. It's human nature, you gotta at least dislike something in life. I've seen it many times, people on Twitter like to put a trigger warning to the person and content creator Schlatt. Haha, yea, A REAL PERSON. I get it, he has made some REALLY messed up jokes, that I don't even find funny, but putting a trigger warning. Come on now. The real problem with Twitter I have had for a long time is how they can take things WAY TO FAR.
Two good examples are the Karl Jacobs drama and Tommyinnit drama. Karl Jacobs is a friend of the famous Youtuber, Mr. Beast, and a part of the DSMP (Dream SMP). Some old tweets were resurfaced about Karl supporting a content creator that has said slurs and very racist jokes. Of course, Twitter starts their routine by trending the two words, “karl neg.” This is trending for a few days. Eventually, Karl begins to stream for this whole drama on Twitter. His apology was acceptable, but the thing that pissed me off was when someone had called Karl asking him if he had eaten. Twitter had affected Karl’s health, causing him to starve himself. This is quite similar to what happened to Tommy. Twitter had affected his health, but instead of apologizing, they use that against him. Tommy streams on his alt account, and the stream was just a QandA stream. Eventually, they hit the topic of “tommy neg.” (He streamed a day after tommy neg was trending) He starts apologizing but started mixing his words up. He was very nervous and anxious about the whole thing. Why do you think he was scared? Twitter! Haha… He starts going on the topic of him going to therapy. A few minutes, tommy neg is trending AGAIN. Two days in a row. On the first day, there were some good tweets about whatever Tommy had done, but the second one was just stupid remarks towards Tommy. People on Twitter used his anxiety and therapy talk against him. They were still getting mad at him. This was vile to see and read. Who has the guts to use someone’s mental health problems against them? Oh well, that’s Twitter for you. Continuing about Tommy’s alt stream, there were multiple times when he looked like he would have a panic attack or just start breaking down. His whole stream lasted for about an hour. Eventually, tommy neg was filled with people with the same opinions as me. Such as how horrible it was to see people use his therapy against him.
In short, Twitter has become a very toxic place for both people in the fandom and their content creators. They are affecting mental health as well. Having many white people speak on our behalf in these jokes or stereotypes is tiring. We understand you have the privilege, but please use that privilege when it is ACTUALLY needed. Honestly, I find it so funny yet heartbreaking that white people are over here trying to "teach" a GAMER about how to be better when they can use that "white privilege" for other topics that are ALSO discussed on Twitter. (yea! other topics are discussed on the platform! I was even surprised) The DSMP fandom on Twitter is just a place of overly sensitive users.
- a POC
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As a POC fan, I'm going to add my two cent although apparently poc opinion doesn't matter if you don't agree with a particular narrative. 🤔🤔🤔 hence the reason why I didn't voice anything before cause fandom made it seem like my opinions are invalid. But hey shouldn't let that stop me?
There's difference between criticism/feedback and harrassment, too many people in the fandom can't tell the two apart. Incessantly being rude and harassing creators to write/draw a certain way because you don't like something is NOT the same as providing feedback and explaining the reasoning for it. There are some excellent metas here about racism/homophobia/Islamophobia in fandom that does an amazing job dissecting the issues WITHOUT being rude or displaying toxic behavior. Thank you to those that created those.
(Highkey I'm realizing there is a problem in fandom of people misusing labels as a guise to push their preference. Please, I read the metas about and I understand problematic patterns but also how is forcing bottom position joe also not racism or fetishization? I can use similar arguments in reverse, all brown people must be subjugated by white people? If you like bottom Joe, that's totally fine because that's just your preference and not some racist intention behind it.)
Also the lines of "just accept criticism and make edits, it shouldn't be hard" especially in context of artists is...how should I say 🤔🤔🤔 ignorant of art creating process. It's frustrating when people assume ART IS EASY. Do you know how hard it is to draw? Get proportions right? Get colors correct? Please if it's that easy, draw it yourself. Secondly, on this note, in this very tag, I've seen both "YOU'RE RACIST FOR COLORING JOE TOO LIGHT" and "YOU'RE RACIST FOR COLORING JOE TOO DARK". 🤔🤔🤔 please try picking out colors for skin yourself and see how you get 30 different shades depending on where you eyedrop and lighting. Apparently no matter what you do even to improve won't be good enough though 🤷♂️
If I hear complaints about there's only top Joe content, I'm going to say you and I must be in very different fandoms. The distribution is fairly even with some leanings to Top Joe if you ACTUALLY read the fics on AO3. And no, don't make the argument over how many are tagged top joe vs bottom joe BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS TAG IT. smh the bias is real. It's not unanimous as some think. AND I seen a fairly decent amount of fics that were booker x joe, so please don't come to me saying it's only nicky being shipped with booker. What do you say about that? Why are those fics okay and doesn't warrant discussion about this beautifully established relationship? Because oh one of them is a POC so it's fine???? 🤔🤔🤔
AND bold of you to assume that my preferences are based on RACE. As if I only like Nicky because he's white? And I like Joe as top because he's brown? What if I like Nicky because I just like snipers with vintage eye bags that make ominous word drops randomly? Wtf is this narrowing these characters down to just skin colors. They are so much complex than that. You think I wouldn't like seeing Nicky railed if their colors were switched? 🤔🤔🤔 and the focus on Nicky's struggle with religion, isn't that because most people on this hell site are from western society so they have some sort of experience with Christianity? so they write about that AND not try to make presumptions about a religion they don't know much of?
Lastly, when you google shirtless marwan vs shirtless luca, you get vastly different results? Maybe that might have a factor in people's perception of body type image? 🤔🤔🤔 and maybe not racism that has been going around.
#the old guard#joe x nicky#ah ready to be mauled for being a poc with a differenr opinion 😂😂😂#but if people are writing about their opinions#i should be able to as well?
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Waves: Quarantine
A/N: It's been way too long since I've done something for the Wavesverse, and I apologize deeply. I have a few requests related to this series to complete, but I couldn't knock this idea.
Words: 4K
Warnings: None
Tags: @babe-im-bi @notacamelthatsmywife @missyperle @queenoftheworldisdead @tashawar @valkryienymph @letsshamelessqueen-m @hello-therree @mani-lifes @liquorlaughslove @toni9 @koko-michelle @theequeenofcurses @taylortheeshowpony
Waves
Summer placed her phone inside of the mount and made sure that it was secured before she sat back in her bed, getting comfortable with the mass of pillows supporting her back, and smiling tentatively. “Hi, guys.”
Summer!
Someone tell me this isn’t a joke???? Please???
She lives!
Sis, blink twice if you need help.
Summer rolled her eyes. “Ya’ll better stop. I know it’s been a minute since I’ve hopped on live, but it hasn’t been that damn long.”
Summer continued to read the comments where more than a few people pointed out she hadn’t gone live on Instagram in over three months. Her mouth dropped. “Ya’ll lying. It has not been almost six months, has it?” She placed her hand over her mouth when people started dropping dates in the comments. “Okay, I stand corrected. Damn, I’m sorry, guys.”
Don’t be sorry, bestie. Do better!
Damn, ya’ll are so entitled. Celebrities have lives too.
What life? We all been in quarantine.
Rich people quarantine be different from us poor folks, I guess.
“So that’s actually one of the things I wanted to talk about.” Summer cleared her throat. “And I’m going to try really hard to make sure I word what I want to say as clear and as effective as I can, but I know this is still going to end up as a salacious headline. So, it is what it is.”
Oooh, Summer about to drop some tea.
I don’t see her wedding ring, ya’ll…..
I’m scared omg.
Watch this be nothing but a role announcement.
She shrugged and took a deep breath. “Okay, so a few days ago, I did the Buss It challenge, after being harassed by Sanda. And can I just say that filming was a challenge in and of itself? Not necessarily the movements but preparing? I’ve got two kids, twins, who are like the Tasmanian devil. I was literally up at 3 something in the morning trying to record it because my wild children won’t let me be great.” She chuckled. “Kids are something else.”
Summer truly jumped through hoops and was a damn near acrobat trying to figure out when she could not only get herself done up but actually record the challenge. Being the perfectionist that she was didn’t help, but the fact that she couldn’t recall the last time she’d put on makeup and dressed up was a whole other fiasco.
Quarantine definitely brought out her bum side.
“All of that aside, I truly was satisfied and happy with the final product when I posted it. In hindsight, I should have just left it that, but I wake up every day and choose chaos, so I decided to read the comments.” She blew out a breath. “One of the most frequent comments and really, insults, I’ve received my whole career. Primarily, since I was cast as Storm, revolves around how I look. I.e., my weight. I’ve been called fat, obese, out of shape, and so many other things.”
It was 100% true. The minute Marvel announced that she’d been chosen to play Storm, the racists came all out of the woodworks. She was too short, too chubby, too dark, too black. And Summer didn’t care, not a bit.
“Even,—and I’ll tell you guys this, when I first started my SS training, that’s what I call it, SS for Storm Shape, there was a—person who worked for Marvel at the time who came to visit me while I was training.” She smiled thinking back on that day. She could still recall it so clearly. “He basically was pissed because to him, I still looked the same, fat and out of shape.” She adjusted her top and shifted in her bed. “That same day, I deadlifted and bench-pressed over 200lbs” She paused for effect. “What I need for people to stop doing is stop fucking projecting—and I’m going to cuss in this, so if you don’t like it, oh well. I work for Disney, but I’m a grown ass woman, and I’m going to say what I want.”
I am screaming. Summer said we getting alll the tea today!
So, it’s wrong to point out that someone is physically unhealthy now, cool?
The problem is that no one wants to see a fat superhero. It’s not realistic.
^^^^ Tell me you have a small dick without actually telling me you have a small dick.
“I saw Lizzo, whom I adore, post a Tik Tok where she basically said that she workouts to have the body she wants not what ya’ll want, and honestly? Same. She said that her body type is no one’s fucking business, and that’s so true. Ya’ll love to hop on this internet and pick apart people you don’t even know and criticize bodies you don’t even have to live in and move around with. And for what?” She shook her head, slamming her fist into her open palm as she spoke. She was fully invested now. “I know we in quarantine, but damn, pick another hobby cause being a bully is not it, sweetie.”
I really needed to hear this today.
Using Lizzo as a point of reference makes everything you’re saying null and void. Lizzo is clearly overweight and at risk for diabetes, heart disease, just to name a few…..
I been saying this! You can’t look at a person and say they’re unhealthy.
Bodies come in so many forms, and all are beautiful.
“Now, I bring all this up because a lot of people were commenting on my Buss It challenge and pointing out the fact that I’ve gained weight, and guess fucking what? I have, and you know what else?” She leaned over to whisper while covering her mouth with her hands for focused effect. “I don’t care.”
Summer laughed and shook her head. “As others have pointed out as well, yes, we have a gym in our house. I 1000% acknowledge the fact that having the resources that I do as a celebrity and someone who has money puts me in a different category. Hell, my husband has a whole fitness app. I recognize that. If I wanted to keep up with my workouts, emphasis on wanted, I could have. I own up to that, but I just didn’t feel like it, and that’s okay. What’s not okay is to send and leave mean messages calling me all kinds of names.”
Summer had thick skin. She always had. Growing up with her family, who always ensured to feed her self esteem and make sure she knew that she was beautiful, definitely paid off. It was just a combination of quarantine and not having a lot of opportunities to keep herself busy with work that had her feeling some type of way.
“And that’s something else I wanted to bring up.” She blew out another breath and tried to gather her emotions. This was the subject she was almost certain she’d grow teary eyed discussing. “I love my husband to death. My children are everything. Christopher’s family is like my own, but— I haven’t seen my family, like my mom, grandma, brothers, etc in almost a year.” She paused, dwelling on that. Almost an entire year since she’d been able to physically hug and interact with the people who made her who she was. “And I’ve always made it clear how much I fucking love my family. I live in Australia. I can’t do a drive by with grandma so I and my kids can at least see her on the doorstep.” She quieted again, eyes darting off as she quietly cursed. “I’m trying really hard not to cry right now.”
Please don’t cry, bestie.
This is the side of quarantine that people don’t talk about enough.
Has this woman never heard of FaceTime????
I feel her pain. I live in Europe, and my family is in the states. This quarantine has been brutal.
My grandma died from COVID, and I couldn’t even go to the funeral. Summer is bringing up a good point.
“Damn,” Summer chuckled bitterly and wiped at the tears that fell. “I’m okay, I promise. I just bring this up because quarantine has also been very hard for me in that aspect. At certain points, I’ve been down, I’ve been in my head a lot, and I just was not, for the most part, in a space where I felt like I had to keep up my fitness regimen. And that’s okay. I put my mental wellbeing ahead of making sure my body is socially acceptable. Sue me.”
I really appreciate her honesty.
Summer never goes beyond surface level in interviews, so seeing her this vulnerable is really surprising.
Are we supposed to feel bad for her? She’s rich. She can afford whatever help she needed.
These comments are not passing the vibe check.
Ya’ll are all mental health advocates, but when a black woman is opening up about her struggle, it’s discarded?
“And let me make this clear too, I have an amazing husband who is so patient and so kind. He’s one of the best people I can go to when my anxiety hits, so I don’t want this to come across as me complaining that I’ve been alone. I have him and our children. I just miss the rest of my family. That’s all.” She dried her eyes and started to read the comments, unsurprised by the mixed reaction. She expected as such and was unaffected. At least until she saw one comment.
@ChrisEvans: ❤️❤️❤️
“Evans!” Summer wasn’t expecting to see his name pop up. It’d been such a task convincing him to join IG, let alone teaching him how to operate it. “Let’s go live.”
Not my husband and wife in my head about to go live!!!!
Imagine being able to call Chris Evans your best friend
I still say they smashed idc
It’s Christopher Jamal Evans hopping on this live for me.
^^^ I’m so sick of y’all with that shit.
“Let me try to add him,” Summer spoke to herself, scrolling through the comments to find his so she could request him. “Alright, I requested him. Let’s see if he answers.”
She wondered if she should have sent him a text asking if he was available when he appeared on her screen, effectively splitting it with her on the top and him on the bottom.
“Punk.”
“Kid.”
Summer smiled and greeted, “Hi, best friend.”
He chuckled. “How you doing, Summer?”
“Clearly not as good as the people watching,” she chimed. Summer saw nothing but heart eyes and hearts in the comments. “These people really love you. You truly are a manipulative bastard. He’s an asshole, guys.”
“Don’t be jealous, Summer. It’s so unbecoming of you.”
“You can go to hell.”
“Language,” he playfully reprimanded. “Where are the kids?”
“At preschool. Things are finally starting to open back up over here. Thank God.” She clasped her hands together. “Y’all, please wear masks. Don’t be Karen’s.”
Chris laughed, grabbing his chest. “We’re getting there, Summer.”
“The lies you tell,” she countered. “Don’t A Starting Point, me. Ya’ll are far from getting there, and I’m tired of it. I wanna see my family.”
He sighed. “I know, but how are you feeling today?”
“I got rid of the kids, so that’s definitely a weight lifted,” she answered honestly, laughing when she saw judgmental comments in the chat. “Listen, if you’re a parent, you know where I’m coming from. You love your kids, but my god, sometimes you just need some space.”
“As soon as this all blows over, I told you to send em’ by me for a couple of weeks.”
“Best friend, I already purchased their tickets.” He laughed. “As soon as I get the green light, they are all yours. Feel free to keep them.”
“You guys see how she is?” He pointed to Summer, leaning and squinting to read what was being said. “I do love kids, especially the twins, they’re amazing.”
“He is really really great with them, guys,” Summer added. “One thing about Evans, he’s patient as hell and really, just a big kid. Why do you think him and Christopher get along so well? 40 going on 4.”
“I resent that.”
“Is it a lie though?”
He hesitated. “No.” They both laughed.
I’m loving the dynamic between these two so much.
Is it just me or are they flirting with each other…..
Ain’t nothing inappropriate about this conversation. Ya’ll are reaching…
Ya’ll remember that blind item that came out years ago alleging Chris (Evans) was the biological father of the twins? Hmm…..
^^^^^This kind of bullshit is the reason we’re in a global pandemic.
As always, Summer and Evans ignored any foolery that was being dropped in the comments when she caught a comment that didn’t contain some ridiculous rumor.
“Yes, it is true that Evans and Christopher weren’t allowed to do press together anymore. Ya’ll, they literally could not stay serious for more than a minute. I felt so bad for the poor interviewers.”
“Hey, we were not that bad,” Evans protested, his Boston accent more prominent.
She gasped. “You guys were terrible, Evans, and you know it. I was so mad when they put me with ya’ll those few times. I could barely hear the interviewers over your laughing and stupid commentary that literally no one asked for.”
“We did not.”
“There’s deadass video proof, Evans.”
“Fake news.”
She opened her mouth but caught herself. “I was about to say something.”
He laughed and asked, “Do you remember how we all got drunk before the Infinity War premiere?”
“No, ya’ll got drunk. I was big and pregnant, remember?”
“No,” he dismissed. “You were drinking with us.”
“Evans, how was I drinking when I was pregnant?” She challenged and reminded. “I got drunk with ya’ll for the Endgame premiere, not Infinity War.”
“That’s right,” he remembered and chuckled. “You think we’ll get in trouble for saying this?”
She shrugged with one shoulder. “You’re dead, Christopher never gets in trouble for anything, and I do what I want. I think we’re good.”
Kevin Feige watching this live right now like 🥴🥴🥴🥴
I never realized how arrogant she is……
LMAO. Not the whole cast showing up drunk to the biggest premiere of their lives.
Chris Evans is too damn fine to be approaching 40 and still single.
Their friendship is so goals omg
@ChrisHemsworth: Snitches
Summer’s jaw dropped as she caught the last comment, swiping up to click the name and make sure that she was reading correctly. “Christopher, what the hell are you doing on my live?”
Evans brows furrowed. “Hemmy is here? Shouldn’t he be working?”
“That’s what I want to know,” Summer supplied. “And how long have you been watching?”
@ChrisHemsworth: Long enough.
She smiled nervously and looked off to the side. “I feel weird now. I don’t like when he watches my lives.”
“Aren’t you guys married?”
“Aren’t you supposed to be shutting the fuck up?”
Evans lifted his hands in a defensive manner. “Touchy subject, I see.” They shared another laugh as he cleared his throat. “Why don’t you add him now? I’m supposed to be helping Scott cook.”
“My favorite Evans,” she gushed and furrowed her brows. “You, cooking? Since when?”
“Get out of here.” He waved her off and reminded. “I’m not the one who constantly causes near fires when in the kitchen.”
“So, you really just putting all my business out there like that?”
“Summer, it’s not secret to anyone that you can’t cook for shit.”
“Wow, it really be your own best friends.”
He chuckled. “Love you, kid.”
“Love you too, punk,” she blew a kiss. “I’ll text ya’ later.”
“Alright.” He smiled for the camera. “Thanks for having me everyone.”
“Yeah, yeah, yeah,” she said jokingly. Evans and Summer said goodbye one last time before he left the live. She blew out a breath and ran her hand through her hair. “Baby, comment something so I can add you. It’s too many comments to wade through.”
Summer adjusted her phone and checked the time on the clock on the wall. It’d been a while since the kids were away at school, and she didn’t want to get so caught up that she was late picking them up.
@ChrisHemsworth: I can’t. I’m too drunk.
Summer released a mixture of a laugh and a snort reading his comment. “You are so damn petty.” She clicked his name and adjusted her outfit while waiting for him to answer. She almost cursed when it seemed like he wasn’t going to join, only for her to smile when his face appeared on her screen.
“Hi,” she greeted in a soft voice with a small smile.
“Hello, Sandcastle.”
“Did you just—I swear to god, it’s always something with you.” Summer rubbed her temples and shook her head. Christopher smiled in response. “Why aren’t you working?”
“I am.”
“You are?”
“Yes.”
“If you’re working, how are you talking to me?” She asked, sassily.
“Umm, a little thing called multitasking, ever heard of it?”
“Wow. You are an asshole.”
“That’s mean.”
“You’re mean.”
“Christopher, you are literally a child.”
“Does a child have muscles like this?” He flexed, and Summer stilled. Christopher stayed in ridiculous shape, but this was another level. He’d never been this massive, and she wasn’t too proud to admit that. Just not aloud.
She faked a yawn. “Am I supposed to be impressed?”
They really just be roasting each other all the time, and I’m here for it.
Summer must be legally blind because this man is stupid fine tf
It’s gotta be steroids. That’s not natural.
^^^^^He’s the god of thunder.
Summer rolled her eyes at the typical nature of the comments. These were the reasons she limited her time on social media and especially stayed away from reading the comments. Her attention was redirected to the top of her phone. It was a text from Christopher asking her to call him.
“But we’re—oh, I get it.” She realized he wanted to talk to her, not her and her tens of millions of followers. “Alright, guys, I’m gonna get off here so I can talk to my husband, alone.”
“She just doesn’t want to share me with you all, that’s all.”
“Don’t even start, Christopher,” she lectured while he laughed and got serious, for a minute tops.
“Hope you all are taking care and staying safe,” he spoke honestly. “And we’ll talk to you soon.”
Summer waved and smile. “Bye, guys. Remember to be kind.” Summer offered a final smile before ending the live. Closing up the app, she moved to open FaceTime and called up Christopher. He answered almost immediately. “You know I hate when you watch my Lives. Now, how much did you see?”
“Enough to know you’re coming to see me tonight.”
She laughed aloud. “Funny.”
“I’m serious, Summer.” Focusing on him, she realized that there was no humor in his voice nor his expression. Summer also noticed that he didn’t have the Thor wig on yet, which was probably why he was able to go live with her. He was waiting to get into hair and makeup. “Leave the kids with Liam. It’s not like he’s doing anything.”
“Christopher!”
“What? Is he not a professional unemployed bastard.”
Summer’s smile remained as she shook her head. “You are so mean.”
“I’ll handle the flight arrangements. You, my beautiful wife, just make sure you get on the jet so I can handle you.”
“Christopher, you’re working. People with everyday jobs don’t just up and show up to their spouses workplace because they miss them or need a break from the kids. That’s how folks get fired.”
Christopher started to move around, walking somewhere, she realized. “What are you doing?”
“Hey, Tike.”
Summer’s eyes widened slightly. “Christoper!”
“Sup, man?” Taika asked casually, as Summer laughed again. Taika Waititi was such a character.
“You mind if Summer comes up for a few days?”
“Sure, man,” he replied almost right away. “Bring the kids and chickens too.”
“I am not bringing those damn chickens,” she immediately protested.
Christopher made a sound. “Ha, so you are coming!”
“I didn’t say that.”
Taika joined Christopher so that he was in camera. “Hey, Summer, why don’t you come on join? You can have a cameo. Chickens, too.”
She rubbed her temples. Taika’s and Chris’s friendship would never not make sense to her. They were cut from the same cloth. “One, hey. Two, I was already in Ragnarok. I’m good on the cameos. Three, what is with ya’ll and those creepy looking chickens?”
“Whoa, creepy? What did the chickens ever do?”
“Exist,” Summer answered dryly. She still hadn’t forgiven Evans and Christopher for convincing her to let the kids keep those damn things. Her home was becoming more and more of a farm with each animal that joined the household.
“Tough crowd, that one, ehh?”
“Always,” Christopher agreed.
“I can hear you both,” she reminded and groaned loudly. Summer would love to spend a few days away from the kids. Chris would be working, yes, but she’d at least get some time for herself. Even better, alone adult time with her husband. That had also been a bit tricky during quarantine because of her rambunctious twins. Still, she disliked using her status as a celebrity to gain things, and this would definitely be a case of using status for pull. “I don’t know….”
Deep in her thoughts, she hadn’t realized that Chris had walked away and returned to wherever he was prior to finding Taika, most likely his trailer.
“What if you only stayed a night?” Chris tried to bargain. “The flight is only an hour and a half. That will give you more than enough time to come here, let me fix you dinner, run you a nice bath, maybe get in the good ole’ horizontal tango—”
“You know I hate when you call it that,” she reminded quietly, admitting. “That does sound nice, though.”
“Or, I can come to you—“
“Absolutely not. Christopher, you’re already doing so much back and forth as it is.” One of the good things to come out of quarantine, to Summer at least, was that it forced many people to take a much needed break. Her husband was one of those people. Christopher had been working nonstop since she met him. Project after project, film after film, many of them Marvel films, which put a whole other layer of difficulty what with the strenuous physical requirements. Even now as he shot Thor 4, he was in the best shape he’d ever been, muscles nearly tearing the cotton of his clothes. He looked amazing, but it was what they couldn’t see that she was starting to grow a little concerned over. Christopher wasn’t as young as he once was. He had to slow down, eventually.
Summer realized this would be a perfect chance to have a conversation about just that with him, which all but led her to her final decision.
“Alright,” she conceded, finger up as she made her demands. “Three days, and I stay at the house while you shoot. We may be returning to normal, but we’re still in a pandemic. I won’t go around anyone except you.”
“So I get you all to myself? Hardly consider that a stipulation.”
“And…we talk.”
“After the horizontal tango—“
“I swear to God, if you don’t stop calling it that—“
“What was that, sweetheart? I wasn’t listening.” She saw that he had paused the screen, causing Summer to remember that she hadn’t even consulted with the babysitter. “Making flight arrangements for you.”
“Shit, let me text Liam and make sure he’s available.”
“He gets reception in the box?”
“Christopher! For the last time, your brother is not living in a box.”
“Do you know that for certain?”
“Goodbye, Christopher,” she prepared to end the call before smiling softly. “I love you, Christopher, and thank you.”
He winked. “I’ll always do anything for you, Summer. Anything.” A beat. “Don’t forget to leave the clothes. You won’t need them.”
“Christopher!”
#chris hemsworth x black!oc#chris hemsworth x black!reader#chris hemsworth fanfic#chris hemsworth fandom#chris hemsworth fanfiction#fic: waves
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Hey👋🏿 hope you’re having a nice day 😊
Sorry for cross tagging but the harassment is getting out of hand. Okay I’m a Billy Hargrove fan willing to make a cross tag post [which turned into a 5 part series ] discussing how to treat and respect fans in the strangers things community. I’m hoping to showcase behavior we shouldn’t engage in when we see someone who likes a character who we dislike. I’m also hoping to start a respectful discussion to help anyone on tumblr who doesn’t understand Billy fans but wants to understand them.Let’s hope this doesn’t become overwhelming 😳
I’m open to fair criticism. Let me know if you interpret a post differently than me if you want. Please let me know your opinions if you have them.
Don’t worry I also want to be respectful to those who don’t like Billy because you have ur reasons to not like his character and connect to fiction however you want to connect to fiction. I want to make things clear I’m not trying to make a moral condemnation of anyone who has engaged in the behavior I critic in this post. There are much bigger problems in the world but I’m so passionate about this one because I’m a person of color who connects to Billy’s story arc and the way some antis treat Billy fans is just cruel. Billy fans are real people who exist and their stories have real life consequences. Online harassment in fandom is not excusable because it is still harassment.
This post is long as FUCK and will have different parts but even tho it’s long I find the conversation to still be interesting so keep that in mind if you read I’ll try to reblog it and pinned it on my blog for ease. There’s a lot to discuss and this conversation should be dealt with care. I will also have the different parts linked at the end of each post. ( I’m also a stupid teenager pls be kind)
I worked so hard on this.
Please share this if you want because I believe our fandom can combat the environment of harassment online we see. Nobody deserve this type of treatment for hyper-fixating on a fictional character that gives them comfort!
Tw for all parts// harassment, racism, discussion of abuse, and abuse apologia, death threats, spoilers for strangers things season 1-3
Tw for this part// harassment, racism, fictional suicide mentioned
I have taken screenshots to reference and prove the behavior I critic but I have gotten rid of all identifying content as to avoid further harassment. Please don’t go out looking to harass anyone. Let me know if I need to add any warnings. this is a somewhat serious, heavy, and layered discussion. We are talking about how humans connect to fiction here so it’s bound to be complex.
[important Note for entire series] All these posts are recent by the way just to show case the harassment is still and ongoing issue even tho Billy has been “ dead” for quite a while now. He might have killed him self but Billy is still my rat man. let me love 😍him.
The Harassment of Billy Hargrove Fans #1
“Okay let’s get started”
Assumptions and cruel judgments of Billy fans
In this Twitter post someone makes the assertion that being a Billy Hargrove fan is a red flag. I’m aware that this is not a tumblr user but I have seen some of this sentiment on tumblr. I will begin by criticizing this post because someone being a fan of a fictional character doesn’t make them and inherent threat to anybody’s personhood. I get that the person who posted this may even agree with what I just argued, that Billy fans aren’t a real life threat, but that’s not what is being communicated at all when someone reads this especially when a fan of Billy reads this. And if someone out there does believe this for one reason or another I’m going to continue to dispute your claim. Some Billy fans might engage in problematic behavior but to hold a layer of apprehension towards all fans of a character because of this might be something you need to reevaluate. Making a moral judgment on real human beings because they like a character is not okay especially if you don’t even know the reasoning.
Just because someone likes a character that might be a mass murderer in fiction doesn’t mean that now they support massacres, correct? Same logic applies here if someone does interpret Billy as racist but still likes his character that does not mean they think racism in the real world is okay ( or bullying, harassment, or anti feminism either) and that does not mean they can’t organize against real world problems effectively.
This is a crude assumption
First things first not every who likes Billy ships Harringrove
As a Harringrove shipper I can only speak for myself and say I could give less of a fuck if Billy is “good” or “bad”. That’s doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to smash king Steve. That’s also doesn’t mean he can’t be queer and it doesn’t mean I can’t like the ship. And it doesn’t mean that I can’t connect to Billy on a disastrously queer level ( got that phrasing from a grade A post on this hell site)
Believing Billy can see the errors in his ways and can heal and become a “good” person… doesn’t have to be a byproduct of being a shipper. it can just be a read someone has of a character so “anon” no disrespect to ya but your thinking is wrong.
Okay this is gonna be lengthy
Fine some Billy fans ignore the shit he did… but that’s not inherently bad. Fans can headcannon Billy into a completely different portrayal than what we see on screen and love him I don’t see a problem with that especially when they aren’t excusing any abuse.
The Duffers brothers failed at exploring racism in their show if that was their intention. Point blank period since this is a form of art it can be interpreted in many different perspectives. Especially if it is not tied to any explicit themes on racism in the text. I interpret Billy’s actions as racist but no one has to do so if they connect to the story in a different manner. I felt the weight of Billy’s “ certain type of people” comment. However it was only and implication not a confirmation. Stop being mad at people for not interpreting something left up to interpretation.The writers didn’t explicitly tackle the issue they wanted to tackle.
This might be helpful 2 know …I interpret Billy as racist, I’m also black, I also Stan Billy Hargrove.
Okay here we go… no-one has to interpret Billy’s actions as being racist so why assume that if someone likes Billy it’s because they’re racist just like him… if they don’t even think he’s racist. I hope that makes sense
I think Billy is racist 4 sure the story flows better for me that way and it makes a lot of sense to me. Now let’s talk about racism in the real world … racism is something that is taught. Racism is a big large system we are all conditioned into. Racism is something we must all unlearn in the real world. So in the fictional world I think there is an entertaining plot line that Billy can go down and unlearn his racism +stop beating up on children Billy 🤦🏿♀️. Because I see that potential growth that is why I like his character. Oh and no one ever talks about this but I head cannon Billy as fat phobic because of the “lard- ass” comment so my version of Billy is working through that as well.
I don’t wanna sound all high and mighty I can understand why someone might express this sentiment. I’m not gonna demonize someone who is black like me (black people have dealt with that enough). I also get why you would not even like Billy if you interpret him as racist. [Someone could have the same analysis of Billy as me and still not like him because how we connect to fiction is somewhat irrational.] I would just ask that we don’t jump to conclusions about anyone’s politics because of how they like a fictional character. That we treat other members in our fandom with respect.
I can never and will never excuse racism because if I do I would be turning a blind eye on a system that kills my loved ones. Your allowed to not like Billy Hargrove honestly I don’t see any Billy fans who care? Stop making crude assumptions about people who do Stan Billy Hargrove ur “ joke” is a hurtful misrepresentation.
Lol like #notallbillyfans am I right guys 👉🏿
*crickets sounds and booing*
okay sorry let’s move on…
The problem I hope i highlighted is that you can not make inherent claims to thy morals of a human being because they like a fictional character.😂
Stand alone post: Me reading to much into the politics of Billy Hargrove/ Harringrove
THE 5 PART SERIES ON HARASSMENT:
#2 #3 #4 #5
#billy hargrove#harringrove#anti harringrove#anti billy hargrove#will byers#byler#elmax#el hopper#jane byers#bob newby#kali prasad#jonathan byers#nancy wheeler#jim hopper#max mayfield#robin buckley#stranger things#mike wheeler#lucas sinclair#joyce byers
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Hii...I've been checking up on your acc since your post about that racially insensitive potrayal on that BL show and I know you said you don't make posts and stuff but I really wanna know what you think about those Indian BL fanvids on youtube where they go insane everytime India is mentioned in a KDrama or BL show if you know what I'm talking about. You don't really have to answer this because I know its not your thing but I would be glad of you do.
Hey, no worries at all. I don't usually make posts or anything but I really love answering asks when I recieve them. Please feel free to keep them coming.
Coming to your question, yes, unfortunately I know EXACTLY which videos you are talking about. You see, I kind of touched upon this subject in that previous post you are talking about; like the part where I talked about the "positive" Indian comments for that series.
Why do they do that? The answer is simple. Obstinacy. Or should I call it idiocy? I would normally say that it is simply a lack of proper information, awareness or exposure BUT I will not do that here. Here is it definitely WILFUL NEGLIGENCE and here's why I say that: they are on the internet, they are consuming content along with the rest of the world. EVERYBODY else is seeing an issue with something except for them, but they choose to ignore it all and continue to swim in that miniscule little puddle of misinformation and ignorance. They clearly have the option of learning AND they have the right sources for it, BUT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO.
Let's be real, most of the Indian diaspora grew up in EXTREMELY racist or atleast racially insensitive homes. We are NOT taught to take offense about such things and jokes about other people's cultures are simply supposed to be a part of our daily lives. Adding on to this, is the fact that "Indian cinema does it all the time!!", which is also, unsurprisingly, their argument everytime this issue pops up.
So now, in addition to being insensitive about the potrayals of other cultures and nationalities in our films, we are also insensitive about their potrayals of us.
The only time Indians REALLY take offense is when there is direct mockery of religious or political idologies (I don't have to mention which ones). If you react to ANYTHING else, you will be shut down immediately by fellow Indians accusing you of being too sensitive.
Now to ACTUALLY answer your ask, the people who make these videos are basically saying:
"OMG they know India!! This means there is a 100% chance they will come here and meet me at a concert/fanmeeting or whatever and fall in love with me and we'll live happily ever after".
Does this sound ABSOLUTELY ridiculous and delusional? Yes.
Are they aware of this? Kind of.
By doing this, are they completely disregarding the fact that the potrayals are stereotypical, offensive and inaccurate? Absolutely.
Will they admit it and try to educate themselves and correct their behaviours? NEVER.
Instead, they will do EVERYTHING in their power to prevent their comfy little misinformation puddle from turning into a slightly bigger puddle of knowledge and accurate information. Because they would rather propagate harmful misconceptions than learn new things that will completely shatter their juvenile little fantasies and force them to wake the hell up.
#racial insensitivity#cultural insensitivity#unhealthy fandom#delusional fandom#ignorance and idiocy under the pretence of fandom
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What you think of fetus V who said in front of everyone "You seem to really like men" to Jimin? Youthful ribbing? Or a moment of insensitivity ? FWI saying you like girls or guys? Or calling close same sex friends u a couple? is actually common where am from. This has happened in my friend circle too actually. Except all of us are hets so no one take it seriously. Cant think a closeted person would find it that funny. Jimins lack of denial or even laughing it off always stood out to me tho.
What do I think of that comment?
I think we both know very often when people say they think a man likes men, they mean to say they think that man is Gay and very often when the g-word is used in a sentence, it is not meant as a compliment- imma give it to you straight, no bs. Lol.
The parlance gay and variations of it, in my opinion, is often used ubiquitously and traditionally as a slur slang among ignorant, non-progressive, anti homosexual individuals and is often rooted in malice.
And when malice isn't intended, ridicule is. The sad fact is, people adopt the terminology as ammunition to blatantly attack, dehumanize, belittle and strip away the dignity of queer folks and when the term is used in reference to non queer people it has a similar effect. It degrades them as well through the irony and humor of comparing them to gay people.
Gay jokes, if you will, is a subtle art of passive aggressively slurring gay folks if you think about it. I mean let's be honest.
Personally, I don't think Tae's intentions in that moment were malicious at all. I don't think he blurted out those words with the intension to ridicule Jimin either- stay with me. It will make sense in a bit.
But he called Jimin gay nevertheless. His comment if a joke, I'm afraid, reinforces these bizzare stereotypes of masculinity and promotes toxic rhetorics prevalent especially within Kpop shipping communities where every Male idol interaction is hyper sexualised and romanticized thus, suggesting a man cannot love another man, be affectionate or be fond of them unless they secretly lusted after them and harbored a desire to lay down pipes in their behinds- which, honestly is crazy coming from a guy with a cultural background such as the Korean culture where kinship is commonplace but more on that later.
I think whatever which way we want to look at it, it was an insensitive comment especially if you believe he meant it as a joke. It was definitely not his most woke moment, socially and culturally- and that's putting it lightly.
That 'gay' comment to me is right up there with all the problematic statements some, if not all, of the members have made over the years- the colorism, racist jokes, the ' eww, you too black,' 'akekeke- you too tanned shoo,' implying if you're black or tanned you are ugly. The fat jokes, the misogyny and misogynior- please don't ask me to give you examples of these. I don't want to ruin BTS for you. Lol.
There are commentaries on these out there on the internet. You can look it up for yourselves- You welcome. Lol.
For the record, BTS have since retracted, acknowledged and apologized for most of these questionable moments throughout the years and so we cannot hold it against them, forever- not to make excuses for them but they are human too. They learn, they unlearn, they make mistakes, they correct them, they grow and as NamJoon said, they really were a bit 'unsophisticated' and rough around the edges in their earlier years- even if it was just five years ago from now, chilee. They is a mess. Lmho.
I think it's all part of the human process honestly- don't worry BTS, I have a lot of space in my heart for y'all to be human and still love ya. Keep going sweeties. Y'all's doing greatness de la grande kind!! Bless y'all.
In V's case he was, since that incident, put as a judge on a show that allegedly featured queer folks and he seemed more welcoming of them than the other judges on the panel, excluding RM of course.
A year later, he would make a song that the LBGTQ plus fraction of Army would rally behind as a highly pro gay song- Stigma, which I find debatable but whatever. I mean, just because JK has stars, clouds and the sky in his lyrics don't make him an astronaut or an environmentalist fighting the good cause for the climate but to each his own.
Stigma was still something, I'll give him that.
Flashforward to five years later, and he would be recommending songs by gay artists, appreciating and promoting gay art and the artists behind them, sporting rainbow outfits, designing a BT21 character that is genderless, incorporating sign language in his speeches- he polished up. Woke the hell up. Politically correct. Yadda yadda yadda.
I think, like some of the others, he too learned his lesson. It's not ok to trivialize the oppression of others or make light of it-
Now that we've gotten the woke bit out of the way, on to our shipping business. Follow me, chop chop. Lol.
Firt of all, I don't think that moment is a big deal. But I find it interesting nonetheless.
Do I think Tae was teasing Jimin in that moment when he made that statement? It's not quite easy as yes or no.
Personally, I think he was clocking him.
This interview was conducted at a point in the timeline where I feel Jimin was shedding his image as the Maknae obsessed hyung in the group. He was coming into his own and embracing himself for who he is and that I think included his sexuality.
Prior to, he had in my opinion, since debut, slipped into the role of the queer jest of the group supplying queer humor and entertainment for listeners at radio shows by offering himself up for ridicule as the 'gay guy' within the group- I hated every bit of it. Lol.
You'd often hear the members refer to him as the one good with the guys, the boy in love with the Maknae- There is still a fraction of Army that see him as this persona but he has since outgrown that label and that phase.
RM was basically the Black jest of the group, offering himself up for ridicule for his darker skin tone right down to his blaccent. Can you do your black accent? They will ask him at interviews and he would proceed to deliver a walmart version of the Black American English. Sigh.
Compared to the previous year where he literally gasped and panicked when the members hinted at his sexuality or made statements that put his sexuality into question, Jimin seemed more in control and mentally prepared during this interview.
When the question was asked of him, the question of why he liked JK, his instincts it seemed was to steer the conversation away from his sexuality- a tactic the rest of the members would employ to avoid discussing Jikook a few months from that interview...
I mean, when Tae asked Jimin on JK's birthday that same year what he wanted to give JK, RM cut in before JM answered. Jimin had done the same thing when in an interview JK was asked if Jimin wasn't his style and JK was stuttering not knowing what to say in response. JM asked him not to answer the question.
When interviewers ask these questions, they do so for entertainment purposes- because who doesn't like gay jokes, amirite?
For heterosexual idols I assume it's not slippery slope for them to engage in these kinds of humor. They can play gay without risking exposing their heterosexuality and when they do play gay it's for jest.
It's not the same for queer idols I think.
Jimin was basically done being the butt of the gay jokes in 2015, he was done selling himself as the JK shit rainbows and I'm the unicorn fixated on him kinda person and it reflected in that conversation.
'I don't like everything about this boy. He ain't all that. But he is the Maknae and he cute so whatever' lol.
Like I said, I think Jimin was steering the conversation away from his sexuality but Tae's comment steered the conversation right back to it. 'I just think he likes men.'
Most South Koreans I've met in person and on the internet spend a considerable amount of time and energy trying to dispel the western notion of gayness projected on to Korean men for their skinship culture.
We like to glamorize gayness in these streets but in reality gay is stigmatized especially in places like South Korea. People don't readily read gay in Male interactions unless they were being homophobic or socially unaware.
To me, Tae's statement was more of an observation about Jimin, one which he felt a need to contribute to the discussion they were having, perhaps to provide insight into the inner workings of Jimin rather than as a joke or jest- or may be he did both.
Jimin managed to avoid opening himself up for the gay jokes and to this Tae then responded, I just think you is gay sir- The emphasis has been mine. Lol.
The thing about Tae is, in the earlier days he used to have a habit of 'exposing' Jimin whenever Jimin told half truths and what not.
For example, in 2014 during an interview when JM was asked what he wanted to do on his free days he had said he wanted to spend time with his family or something and Tae immediately checked him saying he was lying. Jimin then said he wanted to be with Jungkook which had JK fuming.
Was he teasing JM when he called him out for lying about his true desires? May be but I think he meant it too. Know what I mean?
He did the same thing when during their Paris VLive, Jimin got nervous when JK was singing 'know you love me boy, so that I love you,' in the background and Tae asked Jimin if he was nervous. Jimin snapped out of whatever whipped trance he was in and asked 'why would I be nervous' or something along those lines.
Why would Tae assume JM was nervous listening to another man sing? And why would Jimin be nervous in the first place?
And if at an interview Jimin is asked, why don't you like listening to the Maknae sing and JM responded that he is cute but he can't sing and Tae says well I think listening to Jk sing makes him nervous- would that be youthful ribbing or tea? Do you see where I'm going with this?
I see Tae as very observant- If not more observant than Jk. Their jokes are punchier because it is rooted in truth. He is stating his opinion, his observations and when he felt JM's answers were dishonest or inconsistent of his general notion of him, he called him out on that.
It's like him saying JM likes to pretend to be drunk in order to tell Tae he loves him- allegedly. Was it funny, yes. Was it a lie? I don't think so.
Jimin likes to pretend, we been knew. His boyfriend don spilled that tea already. I mean Jk said JM faked being asleep when he noticed the cameras filming him. He said also JM knows he is cute so sometimes he intentionally acts cute.
Tae used to tease Jimin a lot- hell he still teases him a lot to this day. Lol. Had Jimin looking at the back of his head like he wanted to quick punch him in the throat in the recent run, chilee. Lmho.
But you gotta ask, where is the lie in all those jokes?
The question I ask myself, and I think we ought to ask ourselves as shippers is, what about Jimin gave Tae that impression of him in the first place?
What made Tae, coming from a culture and background where 'gay' is a taboo and skinship is prevalent assume that if Jimin liked JK then it was because he liked men or was gay?
Even if Tae meant it as a Joke- no one laughed. Lol. That awkward silence that ensued... now that's how you know he had deadass made a 'gay comment' for real. Lmho.
They were all silent, waiting for JM's response and only laughed when JM responded to Tae- isn't that how it usually goes when you are the one queer person at the het dinner table? The tasteless jokes, awkward silences and stares? Just me? Oh, never mind then. Keep reading. Lol.
Imagine if JM hadn't responded or had gay panicked like he did a year before that interview, when RM revealed JK had been sneaking into JM's bed at night?
Dude was legit ready to throw JK under the bus had it not been for the shady camera guy behind the cameras. Deadass, Jimin was pointing accusing fingers at JK and everything- so much for gay love. Lmho.
The question still remains, what makes you look at your heterosexual friend and go- hey, that's gay. Think about it.
If Tae thought Jimin liked men, even as a joke, it's probably because Jimin had been giving him a reason or reasons to believe he actually liked boys beyond the usual daily doze of gay prevalent within K-culture.
It's similar to JK feeling uncomfortable when Jimin in 2014 described their relationship as one between love and friendship. Jimin responding with male friends can love eachother too without being gay would imply JK was interpreting his words and actions towards him as laced with romantic and sexual subtext or intent.
Now why would JK assume this if men touching men and feeling up on eachother in their culture was a normal thing?
There are gay men in Korea you know?
Tae and Kook were both hyper aware and curious of Jimin's sexuality in that period- for different reasons of course. In my opinion.
Not sure if Jimin's androgynous features played a role in these suspicions and assumptions they had of him in the early days because androgynousity in men is often ignorantly profiled and stereotyped as queer.
Tae seemed convinced JM was queer at least and JK was projecting his own queerness on to Jimin a lot- cough, cough.
It seemed to me also that Tae for whatever reason had the impression JM had a thing for him? I'll save my VMin agenda for delulu Fridays but chilee I don't know, Jimin has been on an agenda to friendzone that man since those manly mans thawed off his chest. Lol.
VMIN... ok.
I mean Jimin's response to Tae was more to deflate Tae's ego than to deflect or evade the issue and I wonder why. 'You are so full of yourself' 'I may like men, but I don't like you' and Tae responds with 'really' as if he's been challenged or dared- ever had your straight friends assume you like them just because you are queer?
Anywho, for whatever reason, Jimin seemed to be the only member in the group around the early days whose words and actions were put through the queer litmus test.
Also, I think a distinction ought to be made between calling two same sex friends a couple and calling them gay.
Calling two friends a couple is inconsequential- except when their sexuality is on the line. Calling two same sex friends you know are straight a couple is nothing but a gay joke.
BTS do this all the time. Jimin called Namjin a couple, Tae kook a couple, himself and Suga a couple, himself and JK a couple.
Jk has equally referred to others within the group as a couple, made heart signs above them, and have even held his chest and said he never thought he would fall for a guy.
In none of these instances did he or any of them imply that they or the persons they were referring to were queer or liked men and I wouldn't make much of such comments.
When JK was called out for gifting a present to Jimin and not the others, Tae teased JK as well and his gestures implied to me, 'it's ok to like him, I know you like him, you like JM don't you, uWu' and other variations of these.
But he in no way hinted at the sexuality of JK explicitly or implicitly- not in a way that prompts a response or rebuttal from JK like it did in Jimin's case.
I guess what I'm saying is that, that moment is nothing but something at the same time. You look at Tae's personality and his reputation within the group as the one with no filter who blurts out things that often has BTS running helter skelter- that 'I want to see your children" comment at Festa almost gave RM an aneurysm. Lmho.
Then they had to literally take his mic away from him when he started talking about meeting a pretty chick or something at a fansigns.
You consider the history between him and Jimin, the context behind that comment and the things that was said after that comment- the interviewer said 'well JK is really handsome...' which means he took the 'joke' Tae had made to mean JM had romantic interest in JK- something I feel JM was trying to avoid.
I don't think Tae meant anything by it. I don't think he knew at the time JM was queer but I do believe he suspected he was.
Hope this helps,
Signed,
GOLDY
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