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Helloo I hope you're doing well :) I was reading about Hector and realised I've never seen him outside of the Iliad. Does he appear in other texts ?
Hello and thank you very much for your sweet words and your ask! Oh yes of course. Hector appears in a plethora of ancient Greek and Roman texts but the real test is to see him outside the context of the Trojan war! Hahaha!
For example Hector appears in plenty of texts by Apollodorous in various contexts and he even mentions how Hector was the one to kill Protesilaus and that is mentioned in several sources more I believe Hyginus included as well as a writer called Philostratus mentions the death of Protesilaus by the hands of Hector. Pausanias mentions Hector in one painting or image sitting in a mourning manner next to the Ethipian king Memnon after the Thracian Thamyris. Plutarch also mentions Hector in various of his texts in the context of Trojan War. Eurypedes mentions Hector in many of his tragedies. Strabo makes mentions to Hector during his geographical expeditions. Plato mentions Hector a lot in his work (even in Apology), Pindar as well as Diodorus Siculus. Last but not least we have Aristotle who mentions Hector in various of his works.
For other roman sources we have of course the Aenead by Virgil and Ovid. Even Pliny the Elder makes mentions to Hector and of course P. Virgilius Maro as he makes commentary on Virgils' Aenead. P. Ovidius Naso also mentions him in his work among other written roman sources including Horace
For his physical description we again have the classic cases of Malalas and Dares the Phrygian. And of course again we have kinda contradictory accounts on him:
Dares the Phrygian: Hector spoke with a slight lisp. His complexion was fair, his hair curly. His eyes would blink attractively. His movements were swift. His face, with its beard, was noble. He was handsome, fierce, and high-spirited, merciful to the citizens, and deserving of love. Malalas: dark-skinned, tall, very stoutly built, strong, good nose, wooly-haired, good beard, squinting, speech defect, noble, fearsome warrior, deep-voiced.
To name a few writers who mention him! Happy to provide the passages you want in the future. Most of the contexts in which Hector is being mentioned is around the trojan war and the epic cycle or used as an example for rethorics. ^_^
And of course do not forget how Hector's name is being mentioned to Linear B tablets! ;)
I hope this helps!
#katerinaaqu answers#hector#tagamemnon#greek mythology#ancient sources#hector's name#hector of troy#heroes of the trojan war#homer#aristotle#apollodorus#pausanias#eurypedes#malalas#dares the phrygian#ovid#virgil#strabo#plato#pliny the elder#pindar#diodorus siculus
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every day, sunrise to sunset 🌇
#omori#omori sunny#omori kel#omori mia#the puppy in the last doodle is named mia! i think hector would've stayed back home with sally even after kel got his own place since he#was already around 10 by that point#and these are vaguely set in his senior years/after his passing ;w;#omori sunkel#sunkel#ocs#my art
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My last two pieces for the pinup calendar! I tried to make them different styles from the Cobi one so it wouldn't be too many that look the same
ALTs in Images
#great god grove#bauhauzzo#inspekta#hector#ggg spoilers#art#It's officially over half way done so nearly there!#Then I've gotta put it all together into a few different pdf styles#Gonna be using my alternate username in the actual calendar so don't worry if you see another name in the calendar itself
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I am never not thinking about Achilles screaming Hector’s name across the battlefield. Because Paris loved Helen enough to start a war in her name, and Hector loved Paris enough to be the face of that war in his place, and Patroclus loved Achilles enough to die for him, and Achilles loved Patroclus enough to kill a man that he knew would bring his own death. It was a culmination of love and all of it ended in blood.
#achilles running across the battlefield screaming hectors name lives rent free in my head#tsoa#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles#hector#the song of achilles#greek myth#greek mythology#greek retelling
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"Sunny!" you cry, "Why did you draw the entire Trojan royal family from oldest to youngest in two days? That seems wildly unhealthy!"
"hurghhhhhhhh" I reply.
Anyways here's the full family portrait
(Only four of these people survive the Trojan war btw :D)
#greek mythology#trojan war#iliad#apollart#I'm just gonna tag the people that people know#priam#hecuba#paris iliad#hector#cassandra iliad#helenus#troilus#Also it is true that Hecuba and Priam had 19 kids together (+ Troilus who's Apollo's kid whoops) But not all 19 kids had names#so I stole the names of Priam's other kids for fuznies lol#anyways this was fun I had fun#still going insane over Paris btw might post something silly about that tmrw#Preview: Paris and Apollo are parallels actually but also if they met in modern day they would ruin each others lives#(and the worst part is they would do it out of a genuine wish to become close)#That probably makes no sense but IT WILL TOMORROW IMMA WRITE LIKE 3000 WORDS JUST WATCH ME#Me: I'm writing a Paris essay tmrw /threat
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💙❤️💜it's their time!!! 💙❤️💜
commissions open!
#my OCs#crypt crew#hector toombs#ronnie von ruby#draws#yes this is redraw of the first time i drew them (as part of a halloween themed repeat pattern) before they were named OCs lmao#anyway just been thinking a lot abt the frankie number#(smooth by santana ft rob thomas) in the universal studios japan monsters rock and roll show#with a frankenguy singing and slaying on mimed guitar with a hot 'bride' character in the tamest makeup ever dancing#so it made me want to redraw this
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Has this been done yet? It probably has
#I cannot remember the name of Hector’s baby for the life of me 😭#it’s something weird like astajax#Yes I like epic the musical#I finished listening to the thunder saga last night#The cast is so chaotic I love them#Epic#epic the musical#Odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#Epic Troy saga#epic musical#Epic fanart#epic the musical fanart#epic odysseus#Digital art#my art#artists on tumblr#iArtbook#thing™️
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Offers Tangled doodles
Finally finished the show so its time to unleash the fanart (there's a couple other drawings I've done but those will get their own posts later, but for now, doodles)
These were all done when I watched season 2 (and then I was unable to watch season 3 for like a month). Anyway point is, I love the brotherhood's designs so so much, they are so fun to draw.
#tangled the series#tts#rta#tts varian#tts adira#tts hector#tts cassandra#rapunzel#tts rapunzel#eugene fitzherbert#finally someone with a last name#my art#im gonna test out scheduling this cant wait for it to not work at all lol
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The more I thought about it, the more I realized just how fucked up the whole situation with Cobigail really was. And to me, personally, I feel she was done the most dirty through Inspekta's actions.
Like, not to diminish what he did to the other gods or anything, but... at most he broke Mitternacht's heart, almost broke Thespius' heart, tricked Click Clack and made him feel guilty for almost ruining their show and hurting Thespi, tricked Bauhauzzo and made him feel guilty and upset for hurting Huzzle, Huzzle Mug was more so pissed and felt betrayed, all while framing and imprisoning King after taking Megapon away.
And none of the followers were in any real danger aside for Mitternacht's crying possibly flooding the Grove. But nobody seemed too concerned with that, more concerned with her being upset and having to deal with the rain. All of which was still bad, obviously, but none of it felt too terrible.
Meanwhile, with Cobigail, he outright tarnished her reputation and painted her as this dangerous god willing to devour her own people. He took direct advantage of the fact that Milldread hasn't had a harvest in a while and decided to directly blame Cobi for it. Literally accused her of starving her own people, all while she's starving too!
This is made worse by the fact that this poor corn lady hadn't even been visited by anyone in twenty years and was starting to forget herself and her memories. She couldn't even speak up for herself 'cause everyone was afraid of her, and she was unable to even recall things so would have been unreliable anyways.
But the thing that really makes this whole situation worse, is that because of Inspekta's letter, someone decided that the best course of action to take was to slaughter an innocent person in front of the entire town, children included. And that this same person also so happened to be someone Cobigail knew back when she was human.
Someone she knew as a child. A child she taught and had fond memories of. She watched that little boy grow up and build that town and community. He's also quite possibly the only remaining person from her time as a human still alive. He hasn't visited her in forever either and feels real bad about it, knows she's not a blood cobbler gobbler. That's his old music teacher after all. He knows she'd never hurt nobody. She's the same teacher who loves his milldreadberry jam and loved being able to eat it during the Harvest.
And now, he's about to be sacrificed to that same teacher-turned-god, without even being able to give her a proper goodbye or apology for not seeing her for those twenty years. And she, in turn, can't do anything about it. Can't stop it. And is forced to watch as he's bashed and cut into mush. His blood splattered onto her alter, in her name.
And I also think people seem to forget that Cobigail was this close to being forced to drink her own ex-student's blood. Like, she would have been slurping up Bloom's blood through her roots unwillingly. Would have been forced to taste it and know exactly who it was she was eating.
And that little detail alone just fucks with me so much, because it is so dark and so sad at the same time.
But while all this was happening, while Saul was yelling about cutting up an innocent man, Inspekta just sat idly in his domain and did nothing. Didn't seem to realize the gravity of the situation (or just didn't care, too busy self-rotting) to tell Cappy or his other Bizzyboys to interfere. Was totally fine with somebody getting killed and his fellow god taking all the blame and being forced to watch.
Like, Cobigail is just the sweetest and is so forgiving, literally welcoming back 'Speks into the family despite everything. Literally had no hard feelings and made it clear she was there for him. So supportive too. Just wants to see everyone safe and happy. Spook some folks. Be silly.
Just, somebody get this sweet corn lady some jam and company.
#Mine#Great God Grove#Cobigail#Series Discussion#Character Discussion#I was cooking so much with this I burnt down the kitchen lol#Fun Fact: Inspekta mistreating Cappy and the others doesn't bother me but what he did to Cobigail sure does :)#I will fist fight Hector in Cobigail's name#she may forgive you but I certainly don't old man (ง•̀.•́)ง
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the saint of duty + an iliad's hector of troy
An Iliad, Lisa Peterson & Denis O'Hare, p. 480 / Harrow the Ninth, p. 124, 133, 191, 193, 194, 204, 228, 267 292, 469 / Nona the Ninth, p. 30, 399, 402
#gideon the first#harrow the ninth#nona the ninth#mine#i'm sure as soon as i post this i'm gonna think of another quote i'd like to use but this is long enough#anyways it's about. hector's role in the narrative of the iliad & an iliad as this man who honors his place in the story and his position#as hector of the shining helm#and about the role gideon plays in the narrative of htn particularly where he is playing a particular role to his duty and what he seems to#need to do to cling to whatever dregs of sanity he believes he has left#ironclad to his role in the narrative but so few people even the ones around him barely see him as more than#god's attack dog. bound by something no one else seems willing to name or identify#this is gonna be a if you get it you get it if you don't you don't post i think#g1deonheads rise!!!#hector and gideon as people who the narrative seems almost to Happen to#does that make any sense. HELLO
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This isnt really an ask this is just me holding out my empty plate to you
More Grujaja stuff please!!!!! very yummers!!!! :D /noforce
Great news, i have a bit of unposted doodles of Grujaja cuz like i mention in other posts every time i draw smthn sad w him I cope by drawing cute or silly images. (and one other sad one oops)
the rest of the doodles are for my silly hc (honestly borderlining au at this point w the amount of images i've made for it lol) that caused this whole mess, those under the cut for the sanity of the people. [thumbs up]
Grujaja making Hector die from stress right before he tries to ascend to godhood.
bonus Capo trying and failing to pretend like he doesn't care as well. if you even cares. /silly
#great god grove#ggg spoilers#bizzyboy gr#ggg grujaja#ggg patty#bizzyboy p#i love how patty is 1 crumb big compared to grujaja. thats his friend thats also his teddy bear#ggg hector#ggg capochin#<- these two unda the cut lol#i hate the crying gruja doodle but i recognize someone might like it so it stays#on god the stupid hc stuff is straight up named “Groves worst babysitters” in my sorting files#The image of grujaja climbing onto hector haunted me so badly you have no idea. i just think drainfolk r like that and like climbing things#these two suck at being responsible in many ways and yet end up the closest thing my grujaja has to family besides the other bizzyboys#which is why the poor guy deals with so much bullshit#“closest thing to family i have are the two incredibly fucked up ex-leaders of the bizzyboys and then also the bizzyboys themselves”#absolutely hopeless setup for this guy to end up a well adjusted individual post game#and why the one comic w him and capo was so evil for me to make w me faceplanting the desk#he's trying so hard though. he's trying.#once again apologies for being insane#hope this appeases u
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Consequently to this his rival Hector also seems to appear to the tablets hahaha 😆
E-ko-to
Also "Hector" could potentially come from the verb "εχειν" aka "to have". Hector had happiness once had a city and had a family. The verb also means "to hold together". So Hector is the steadfast warrior who held Troy together!
More suffering coming right up!
Thank you @venomspecs for reminding me!
Other names rescued in mycenaean greek also correspond to homeric poems such as Idomeneus and Perimedes
Achilles is actually a Mycenaean Name
For the Achilles fans out there I wanna drop the random fact that his name actually appears in the Linear B tablets
A-ki-re-u
So the name of the hero is at least as old as the Mycenaean Greeks!
You're welcome!
PS: "Achilles" probably comes from the word "ἄχος" (achos) which means "pain" or "suffering" or "sighing" or "grief" and "λαός" (laos) which means "people".
So basically "Achilles" means "the suffering of people" or "grief from the people", which indicates both the character's profound grief as well as the rest of Iliad greeks who suffered by his rage
Suffer now!
#greek mythology#tagamemnon#hector#hector's name#ilias#the iliad#homer iliad#homer#homeric epics#homeric poems#homeri epics#ancient greek names#greek mythology names#mycenaean greek#mycenaean#linear b#naming in ancient greek sources#sing oh muse#the epic cycle#heroes of the trojan war#katerinaaqu analyzes#idomeneus#perimedes
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HIKI ARCHIVE - page 56 to 65
#hikiau#omori#omori au#omori fanart#omori aubrey#omori basil#omori hero#omori kel#omori mari#omori sunny#omori hector#omori mewo#'stranger' omori#(their name is unknown :) )
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I cannot get the image of Hector pretending to be a monster and chasing a squealing Scamandrius all over the palace gardens out of my head actually
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designs for the main guys in the eclipse au <3 teeeheee
#great god grove#great god grove spoilers#ggg spoilers#bc of hector ya know#ggg hector#capochin#godpoke#ggg patty#razzmatazz#ggg razzma#eclipse au#FOR CONTEXT THE ECLIPSE AU IS MY OWN THING IM SORRY IF THERES ANOTHER AU NAMED THAT TOO#razz looks so strange in my style#im sorry girl........#my art
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Grantaire: You need to start paying your rent, I can’t spend to much money on my art supplies and wine and clothes and food as well as rent. I am poor.
*His kitten stares at him before meowing.*
Grantaire: You are correct Hector, I’m sorry for ever asking. Also how would you feel about Enjolras coming over.
*His kitten yells again.*
Grantaire: Alright Hector, I won’t.
#grantaire#les miserables#enjolras#exr#incorrect quotes#les amis de l'abc#george blagden#hadley fraser#enjoltaire#r named his cat after Hector of Troy
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