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Helloo I hope you're doing well :) I was reading about Hector and realised I've never seen him outside of the Iliad. Does he appear in other texts ?
Hello and thank you very much for your sweet words and your ask! Oh yes of course. Hector appears in a plethora of ancient Greek and Roman texts but the real test is to see him outside the context of the Trojan war! Hahaha!
For example Hector appears in plenty of texts by Apollodorous in various contexts and he even mentions how Hector was the one to kill Protesilaus and that is mentioned in several sources more I believe Hyginus included as well as a writer called Philostratus mentions the death of Protesilaus by the hands of Hector. Pausanias mentions Hector in one painting or image sitting in a mourning manner next to the Ethipian king Memnon after the Thracian Thamyris. Plutarch also mentions Hector in various of his texts in the context of Trojan War. Eurypedes mentions Hector in many of his tragedies. Strabo makes mentions to Hector during his geographical expeditions. Plato mentions Hector a lot in his work (even in Apology), Pindar as well as Diodorus Siculus. Last but not least we have Aristotle who mentions Hector in various of his works.
For other roman sources we have of course the Aenead by Virgil and Ovid. Even Pliny the Elder makes mentions to Hector and of course P. Virgilius Maro as he makes commentary on Virgils' Aenead. P. Ovidius Naso also mentions him in his work among other written roman sources including Horace
For his physical description we again have the classic cases of Malalas and Dares the Phrygian. And of course again we have kinda contradictory accounts on him:
Dares the Phrygian: Hector spoke with a slight lisp. His complexion was fair, his hair curly. His eyes would blink attractively. His movements were swift. His face, with its beard, was noble. He was handsome, fierce, and high-spirited, merciful to the citizens, and deserving of love. Malalas: dark-skinned, tall, very stoutly built, strong, good nose, wooly-haired, good beard, squinting, speech defect, noble, fearsome warrior, deep-voiced.
To name a few writers who mention him! Happy to provide the passages you want in the future. Most of the contexts in which Hector is being mentioned is around the trojan war and the epic cycle or used as an example for rethorics. ^_^
And of course do not forget how Hector's name is being mentioned to Linear B tablets! ;)
I hope this helps!
#katerinaaqu answers#hector#tagamemnon#greek mythology#ancient sources#hector's name#hector of troy#heroes of the trojan war#homer#aristotle#apollodorus#pausanias#eurypedes#malalas#dares the phrygian#ovid#virgil#strabo#plato#pliny the elder#pindar#diodorus siculus
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every day, sunrise to sunset 🌇
#omori#omori sunny#omori kel#omori mia#the puppy in the last doodle is named mia! i think hector would've stayed back home with sally even after kel got his own place since he#was already around 10 by that point#and these are vaguely set in his senior years/after his passing ;w;#omori sunkel#sunkel#ocs#my art
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reading the iliad is like
who is echepolus? who is agenor? who is peirous?
hi odysseus!! hi achilles!!
who is phegeus? who is eurypylus? who is menesthes?
diomedes!! menelaus <33
who is ttepolemus? who is alcandrus? who is opheltius? who is-
#homer#the iliad#odysseus#achilles#diomedes#menelaus#menelaus was my favourite bevause he was the one i always recognised#also#i was always confused about nestor and hector because of the similar names#i always had to stop for a second to think about which one is with the greeks and which one is the trojan 😭😭🤕
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"Sunny!" you cry, "Why did you draw the entire Trojan royal family from oldest to youngest in two days? That seems wildly unhealthy!"
"hurghhhhhhhh" I reply.
Anyways here's the full family portrait
(Only four of these people survive the Trojan war btw :D)
#greek mythology#trojan war#iliad#apollart#I'm just gonna tag the people that people know#priam#hecuba#paris iliad#hector#cassandra iliad#helenus#troilus#Also it is true that Hecuba and Priam had 19 kids together (+ Troilus who's Apollo's kid whoops) But not all 19 kids had names#so I stole the names of Priam's other kids for fuznies lol#anyways this was fun I had fun#still going insane over Paris btw might post something silly about that tmrw#Preview: Paris and Apollo are parallels actually but also if they met in modern day they would ruin each others lives#(and the worst part is they would do it out of a genuine wish to become close)#That probably makes no sense but IT WILL TOMORROW IMMA WRITE LIKE 3000 WORDS JUST WATCH ME#Me: I'm writing a Paris essay tmrw /threat
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💙❤️💜it's their time!!! 💙❤️💜
commissions open!
#my OCs#crypt crew#hector toombs#ronnie von ruby#draws#yes this is redraw of the first time i drew them (as part of a halloween themed repeat pattern) before they were named OCs lmao#anyway just been thinking a lot abt the frankie number#(smooth by santana ft rob thomas) in the universal studios japan monsters rock and roll show#with a frankenguy singing and slaying on mimed guitar with a hot 'bride' character in the tamest makeup ever dancing#so it made me want to redraw this
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Offers Tangled doodles
Finally finished the show so its time to unleash the fanart (there's a couple other drawings I've done but those will get their own posts later, but for now, doodles)
These were all done when I watched season 2 (and then I was unable to watch season 3 for like a month). Anyway point is, I love the brotherhood's designs so so much, they are so fun to draw.
#tangled the series#tts#rta#tts varian#tts adira#tts hector#tts cassandra#rapunzel#tts rapunzel#eugene fitzherbert#finally someone with a last name#my art#im gonna test out scheduling this cant wait for it to not work at all lol
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I am never not thinking about Achilles screaming Hector’s name across the battlefield. Because Paris loved Helen enough to start a war in her name, and Hector loved Paris enough to be the face of that war in his place, and Patroclus loved Achilles enough to die for him, and Achilles loved Patroclus enough to kill a man that he knew would bring his own death. It was a culmination of love and all of it ended in blood.
#achilles running across the battlefield screaming hectors name lives rent free in my head#tsoa#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles#hector#the song of achilles#greek myth#greek mythology#greek retelling
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the saint of duty + an iliad's hector of troy
An Iliad, Lisa Peterson & Denis O'Hare, p. 480 / Harrow the Ninth, p. 124, 133, 191, 193, 194, 204, 228, 267 292, 469 / Nona the Ninth, p. 30, 399, 402
#gideon the first#harrow the ninth#nona the ninth#mine#i'm sure as soon as i post this i'm gonna think of another quote i'd like to use but this is long enough#anyways it's about. hector's role in the narrative of the iliad & an iliad as this man who honors his place in the story and his position#as hector of the shining helm#and about the role gideon plays in the narrative of htn particularly where he is playing a particular role to his duty and what he seems to#need to do to cling to whatever dregs of sanity he believes he has left#ironclad to his role in the narrative but so few people even the ones around him barely see him as more than#god's attack dog. bound by something no one else seems willing to name or identify#this is gonna be a if you get it you get it if you don't you don't post i think#g1deonheads rise!!!#hector and gideon as people who the narrative seems almost to Happen to#does that make any sense. HELLO
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HIKI ARCHIVE - page 56 to 65
#hikiau#omori#omori au#omori fanart#omori aubrey#omori basil#omori hero#omori kel#omori mari#omori sunny#omori hector#omori mewo#'stranger' omori#(their name is unknown :) )
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did you never recover from the tragic fate of astyanax son of hector and andromache of troy or are you normal
#he was as beloved as his fall was hard#his father loved him and prayed that he might be safe#his mother loved him and he was torn from her arms#his city loved him and named him king and he was thrown off its walls to his death#it has been haunting me since i was first told the story as a child#is there a world in which astyanax grows up#is there a world in which war has mercy for children#tagamemnon#astyanax#the iliad#greek mythology#hector#andromache of troy#epic cycle
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Consequently to this his rival Hector also seems to appear to the tablets hahaha 😆
E-ko-to
Also "Hector" could potentially come from the verb "εχειν" aka "to have". Hector had happiness once had a city and had a family. The verb also means "to hold together". So Hector is the steadfast warrior who held Troy together!
More suffering coming right up!
Thank you @venomspecs for reminding me!
Other names rescued in mycenaean greek also correspond to homeric poems such as Idomeneus and Perimedes
Achilles is actually a Mycenaean Name
For the Achilles fans out there I wanna drop the random fact that his name actually appears in the Linear B tablets
A-ki-re-u
So the name of the hero is at least as old as the Mycenaean Greeks!
You're welcome!
PS: "Achilles" probably comes from the word "ἄχος" (achos) which means "pain" or "suffering" or "sighing" or "grief" and "λαός" (laos) which means "people".
So basically "Achilles" means "the suffering of people" or "grief from the people", which indicates both the character's profound grief as well as the rest of Iliad greeks who suffered by his rage
Suffer now!
#greek mythology#tagamemnon#hector#hector's name#ilias#the iliad#homer iliad#homer#homeric epics#homeric poems#homeri epics#ancient greek names#greek mythology names#mycenaean greek#mycenaean#linear b#naming in ancient greek sources#sing oh muse#the epic cycle#heroes of the trojan war#katerinaaqu analyzes#idomeneus#perimedes
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this might legitimately be the funniest i've been, ever
#the iliad#hector of troy#andromache#astyanax#scamandrius#i love the fact that all of troy really said hector sucks at naming children#anyways
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The year Hektor, as well as Paris, got married.
(I, too, wanted to do a lineup of the main Trojan royal family/the children of Priam and Hecuba. So, here it is! Nineteen sons as the Iliad decreed, plus a handful of daughters. Everyone's loosely grouped (or not) according to in which set of multiples they were born. Lore and secrets under the cut.)
I've tried to only use names that either explicitly are called offspring of Priam and Hecuba, or implicitly so by the Iliad saying they're legitimate. The only exception being Chromios and Echemmon, of whom the Iliad doesn't say either way and who in later sources are named as sons of some mother(s) not Hecuba. I've ignored this, prioritising the Iliad's non-specificity. Partly because I'd long since decided they were sons of Priam and Hecuba when I realized that other sources made them not so. Of course, the Iliad doesn't name enough sons, so the rest come (mostly, exception Idaios) from Hyginus' list via cross-referencing with the Bibliotheke, to assure I picked names from the former the latter didn't say were illegitimate.
Everybody's ages and the timeline used does rely on ~5 extra years between Paris coming back with Helen and the Achaeans landing at Troy.
Ilione and Laodike are both already married by this point. I don't think we actually know how Bronze Age proto-Thracians were dressed, so I just tried to deck her out in something a little different from the rest.
Paris gets a white leopard pelt to make it a little more ~extra. The half-wrap sort of thing he's wearing about the hips technically come from a few hundred years later, I think (if I remember correctly), from the neo-Hittite era, but shh.
Eurydike is Aeneas' wife in the Kypria (so, she's equivalent to Kreusa), and though we don't know whether this Eurydike was a daughter of Priam and Hecuba, but I'm going with that she was (as Creusa was made so as well).
I've gone back and forth on how old Polyxena is supposed to be, and initially she has been a twin with Polydoros (mostly because I liked the matching names), but for my latest iteration I went with making her part of another mortal-demigod twin pair with Troilos as often happens, because of how her story intersects with both Troilos and Achilles. You can really see who Troilos' father is. :)
The number of daughters in addition to the Iliad-given nineteen sons have been decided by going by who has been given as Priam and Hecuba's daughter in some source, and then adding on Eurydike to that list.
I do have an alternate arrangement for ages/births (basically to be used in versions of fics that use the funeral games as background for how Paris gets reunified with the rest (when he's 16 instead), which is one where Kassandra would be old enough to have been cursed by Apollo right before Paris comes back, though this one gives the ages for the last year of the war: Hektor, 40 Ilione, Laodike, Antiphos, 38 Helenos and Kassandra, 36.5 Paris, 35 Deiphobos [Kreusa/Eurydike, Pammon and Polites], 34.5 This would also work out to have Deiphobos younger than Helenos, as some versions note as he is a strike against him in his fight over Helen with Helenos, who is said to be older.
#greek mythology#the iliad#trojan family#priam#hecuba#paris of troy#hector of troy#deiphobus#troilus#lightart#cassandra of troy#polyxena#I sure am not tagging ALL the names in this
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Yogscast Fan Merch Anyone?
Hi, I haven't been on Tumblr and forever and am not expecting any responses to this question HOWEVER I'm asking anyway lol. @ the Yogscast Fandom who still enjoy the series like Tekkit, Moon Quest, Jaffa Factory, Black Rock Chronicles, etc etc... Would you (and how many of you) would be interested in some fan merch here in 2024 (maybe 2025) I've noticed no one seems to sell anything for the Yogs anymore on Etsy and really feel like tapping into the dream I had of making fan merch for them way back when I was a kid (2012 to 2016). Now that I am in my 20s, established on Etsy, and like 100x better at art (lmao) I want to get a gauge on how the fandom is holding up here on Tumblr before I start anything. ALSO If there's any Discord Servers related to the early Yogs MCYT fandom please let me know, I would love to join!!!!! TLDR; Would you 100% buy Yogs MCYT Fan-Merch in 2024? What would you like to see?
Here is my Etsy Shop! It's not everything I've made, but It's everything I have in stock.
#Yogscast#Tekkit Yogscast#Jaffa Factory#blackrock chronicles#Moon Quest#Minecraft#MCYT#Fan Merch#Area 11#Simon and Lewis#lalnable hector#YogLabs#Lalna#Flux buddies#rythian#zoey proasheck#nilesy#sips#he who must//not be named
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I cannot get the image of Hector pretending to be a monster and chasing a squealing Scamandrius all over the palace gardens out of my head actually
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F/o list meme because I miss posting about them but don't have all to much energy for other stuff currently, so memes it is😂 I lowkey wanna do more of these alignment chart memes now (both self ship and others), they're just fun :D
Template by @strawberry-selfships!
#when I saw this I just KNEW I had to put Piett in the bottom left one😂 he's like my only f/o who's not super tall😭#also counted Thrawn as my oldest f/o in this one even though I've had other fictional crushes before him#but either I don't ship with them anymore orI didn't actually consider them an f/o until much later#like in Grievous case I sorta had a crush on him when I was like 13/14 but just - didn't realise I could make up a character to ship w/ him#with Thrawn I didn't know yet was self shipping was either but I read like x reader stories and imagined myself being together with him#+ I started learning how to draw mainly so I could draw myself with him (and then never actually did oops💀)#and even though I don't really actively ship myself with him now he's just kinda been there for about 5 years now#also the one with Doof is probably just how I feel about him but I just really think he's so cute🥺💕💕#self ship#self insert x canon#self ship meme#thrawn#davy jones#the horned king#maximilian veers#heinz doofenshmirtz#yogar lyste#firmus piett#general grievous#hector barbossa#damn that's a lotta names#selniasposts
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