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Obessessing over Vinsmokecest for the past couple of days.
Like, a Germa Sanji who was born like his brothers but ended up gaining emotions anyway, who ends up leaving and is presumed dead for years?
His brothers would destroyed and they wouldn't be able to fully articulate why or even fully realise how, they just lost one of their own who was with them from birth and they cannot fully comprehend it since their emotions are very faint thanks to Judge.
Judge tells him Sanji was killed due to pirates and the brothers swear revenge against them and are ruthless to pirates. They somehow become even more feared and eventually they have to set their sight on the strawhats due to their notorioty and fame.
They don't think much of the blonde man named Sanji with a kick based martial arts. Afterall, their brother had black hair and was a swordsman. It isn't until much later, when Sanji slips up and becomes invisible in front of them, do they consider the possibility that could actually be their brother.
Maybe they pin him down and look for a brand, a sign that he is Germa owned like the rest of them. Maybe the capture him or test his DNA and confirm it scientifically that its actually him. Or maybe Sanji says too much and they watch him and notice how deep the similarities ran and are utterly convinced.
No matter what though, now that they are aware that Sanji is alive, they are going to do everything in their power to make sure he comes back and stays with them. They'll fix him even, make sure he regains his modifications and previous strength. Point is he is coming back with them.
Sanji is theirs, and no one is taking him away from them ever again.
#one piece#vinsmokecest#tw possessive behavior#i love possessive vinsmokes#personally i think in an au where Sanji was like his brothers he and Niji would be close#which means hes absolutely going to be furious he was alive and seperated from them the entire time#they are never going to let him go#neither are the strawhats#sanji himself never wants to return even though he deeply misses his brothers#their relationship is too destructive though with sanji pouring himself for them over and over and over#once he gained an ounce of emotion the first thing he tried to do was give the same kindness to his siblings and take care of them#so of course sanji cant stay as the strawhats cook#hes only allowed to do that for them#theyre the only ones who deserve his cooking#and sanji knows how they think and while hes tempted by a reuinion#he knows theyll just destroy him instead#and he will still love them despite it
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Was thinking about @ckret2 's bill when i wrote this, but it applies to bill more generally. I think the main thing people pick up on, maybe subconsciously, about their bill that makes him feel so accurate is that he feels.
A lot of people (and most people are guilty of this including me whether they mean to or not) tend to write him as a tragic immortal? In the sense that he's been beaten down by time and learned never to care about people, and has lost the ability to care.
And the first part of that is true!
He HAS learned never to care about people! In the tbob love page, he says its stupid to tie yourself to a mortal in a way where your happiness depends on them. He's LEARNED this. But he has NOT lost the ability to care. And he DOES care despite knowing he shouldn't.
He interacts with people genuinely, he legitimately enjoys the company of "lesser" mortal species, he has fun, he thinks about people when they're gone, he's taken lovers, he speaks in phrases hes picked up from past earth decades because he likes how they sound (ya dig?).
And some people are frustrated when he's written suave and unfeeling for this reason, because he is a goofball. But the thing is, he DOES act, in a way, suave and unfeeling when it comes to situations like Ford and Dipper. He plays up his "immortal deity" persona, constantly reminding them of all the knowledge he knows, PROVING his value to them.
But he gets mad! He falls in love! He jokes around because its fun! He gets stupid and reckless when he's upset! He burns bridges when he doesnt get his way! These are all insANELY short-sighted things for a trillion-year-old to care about!
This is why he can relate to people, and why he acts like a kid sometimes. I firmly believe that he stopped aging the day he destroyed his dimension (which is basically canon i think) not only physically but mentally. He legitimately cannot mature, cannot gain wisdom no matter how much he tries.
He has a lot of INTELLIGENCE and KNOWLEGE, but its like giving a child the library of alexandria and infinite time to explore. Sure theyll probably learn some things out of boredom or curiosity, but theres no curriculum. They COULD read it all, but why would they? That's boring and dumb and they want to climb the shelves and make book forts instead.
Now, more specifically about ckret2's Goldie:
He describes himself as a consumate extrovert. He hangs out with mabel and watches tv and goes to the Rainbow club. And while he does these things, he isnt thinking "this is so below me, why should i care about any of this?" He's just trying to have fun, and is knowingly fulfilling his social needs. He believes he and ford WERE friends.
And the most important part of this that im always thinking about is Bill claiming that being friends, enjoying peoples company, loving, playing, and all that is not mutually exclusive with being an all powerful god of destruction to be worshipped by all.
Which makes sense! Because he is INTELLIGENT and he knows that he's more powerful than these people, and he SHOULD be a being that demands their worship, and he needs to find something that lasts, and makes sense in the wake of INFINITY. But he also has the mind of a mortal, and he thinks the same way he always has. And with both of these insights, the ONLY thing that MAKES SENSE is to have his cake and eat it too. Focus on the big picture while also enjoying the present, SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Manipulating ford to his own end that leads him closer to his forever plan, while also bringing him to karaoke and falling in love. Securing his rule and reputation over the nightmare realm, being feared throughout the multiverse, having his fingers in as many pies as possible-- while partying with his henchmaniacs, drinking out of solo cups and flashing the cops.
Its the only thing that stops him from going crazy. If you have a mortal mind thats built to love and lose and feel and party and wisecrack, and you relinguish it to the horrifying prospect of timelessness, if you're always looking at the existential...you are not going to last a trillion years.
#im sleepy and kinda rambled and idk if i actually said anything new#oh well#bill cipher#the book of bill#tbob#gravity falls#bill goldilocks cipher#wasting away again in the goldilocks zone
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my summerslam predictions
this is very much a yap fest so if u dont wanna see a bunch of paragraphs of me yapping and me very much going insane then dont click the read more, but if u want to see me yap then go ahead 😋😋
bailey vs nia jax
winner ? i think nia jax
why ? for one, im not rlly excited for this match and just from knowing jax i think she might win regardless.
shes just an icon anyway! i love bailey and ive loved how much shes grown and became an amazing superstar but i just hsve this gut feeling nias gonna win. i dont rlly think tiffany will cash in bc she needs to flaunt her mitb purse for a bit!!!
p.s: bailey's championship run is kind of boring ngl?? like ofc shes cool n all but we've already seen all the layers to bailey being champion and i need a new one and ineed it now
logan (fuckass) paul vs la knight
winner ? la knight. no take backs
why? I FUCKING HATE LOGAN PAUL PLEASE LA KNIGHT WIN PLEADEMPLALSPELSLSKWPWLWL
but in all seriousness, logan paul is barely here?? istg he shows up, yaps, and then leaves for like ten decades until someone provokes him again. hes barely defending it and hes not here enough to even do so. la knight DSERVES this belt! when i tell u hes been freaking phenomenal in the main roster and judt to think hes never had a belt is wild?? he needs to win point blank periodt
p.s: i just know logans gonna try smthn anf fuck it up and thsts gonna cause him the match and what will i b doing? pointing and laughing
p.s.s: i will be sending a very nice and long letter if la knight doesnt win
sami jey- i mean zayn 😁 vs bron breakker
winner ? bron breakker
why? for this match im just going to wing it honestly bc there are SO many possibilities for this but im moreso on bron's side.
sami is known for being extremely strong in ring and surprising everyone around him when he kicks a big guy's ass, yes, but then again bron fucking breakker?? HELLO?? have we seen him??? remember that one time he left someone SHAKING and they had to go to the hospital? remember when he DESTROYED ricochet? the amount of spears he did to people? plus hes been a freaking powerhouse in many ways and i think he deserves this title as well
liv morgan vs rhea ripley
winner ? liv morgan
why? bc i trust my gut and even tho it sucks to say, the liv revenge tour is not yet over.
liv morgan has been doing an fan fucking tastic job at being a chamption its insane and while ofc we all love our mami, i dont think wwe is just gonna grant her the belt right when she steps into wwe ?? thatd be so boring honestly bc i want to see MORE of this feud and how rhea will gradually win back everything from liv in a span of time. she cant just win everything back just from one ppv !!! so yeah i think liv will win, and i WANT her to win only because i want this rivalry to last a little longer bc if rhea wins, theyll basically just b going their separate ways.
p.s: i just KNOW during the match, dom is going to cost rhea the win. question is tho will it be on purpose or accident? i REALLY want dom to turn and be with liv regardless of him calling her a bitch and saying he hates her bc i know if rhea didnt come back during raw, he wouldve definitely kissed liv and wouldhe got wirh her. itll also give rhea more to fight for–the title, and her man–and itll fire the feud even more
damien priest vs gunther
winner ? gunther...
why ? at first, i wanted to say damien was going to win but honestly i have a feeling papa trips is gonna cook and make gunther win instead
gunther deserves a title imo (u can tell the three am brain was hitting here bc i forgot gunther was champion already) and i feel like damien would be kinda clouded by the insults gunther was throwing around that its gonna throw him off in some way causing gunther to win
maybe some shenanigans might go down which coukd cost damien the match as well like if JD and finn will come out and make damien lose and then thatll cause damien to possibly go face and break from the judgement day bc he doesnt want help!!
gunther might walk in to bash in berlin as champion (or maybe im wrong abt this prediction and he'll actually win it at bash at berlin but idk lol)
cody rhodes vs solo sikoa (bloodline rules)
winner? mmmmm cody?????
why? im so stumped for this match and i dont wanna say i dont care abt it but its not my top priority 🤕
i want roman to come back during this match and fuck everything up since he technically is still apart of the bloodline and then he'll put solo back in his place which will make cody remain but then again idkkkk so, im winging this one and will just watch.
cm punk vs drew mcintyre 😨😨😨😨😨 (with sethie reffing!)
winner? i dont know in the best way possible
why? this is just going to be a yap session but here r all my thoughts
im moreso siding with drew on this (GASP CM PUNK FAN WANTING DREW TO WIN?) bc punk HAS cost drew so many matches atp that itd make drew look so damn weak for him to lose and then hed just be complaining again the next day?? like it would be so freaking boring???
if cm punk DOES win i feel like itd be because OF something like some sort of distraction perhaps? bc as seth said, they have to follow ALL of his rules n stuff so maybe drew gets distracted by seth and then punk will pin and seth HAS to grant him the win (like how shawn michaels had to grant bret the win during that one match when he guest reffed)
i know this is setting the bar high but i want aj lee IF WWE LOVES ME! like aj slaps drew, telling him she'll never be his family n shit and then larry comes out and bite his ankles 😁😁 THIS IS SETTING THE BAR RLLY HIGH BUT IT WOULD BE QUITE FUNNY
#i wrote these predictions at like 3 am so if there r any mistakes pay them no mind#im going fucking insane#starting my liveblogging at 4 when the preshow starts btw but i might be quite slow bc ill be getting dinner w my dad#but yeah im so excited!!!#wwe#wwe lb#summerslam#wwe summerslam#summerslam 2024#wwe pay per view#wwe predictions#wrestling#cody rhodes#damien priest#drew mcintyre#cm punk#gunther#bailey#nia jax#liv morgan#rhea ripley#solo sikoa#sami zayn#bron breakker#ppv#wwe ppv#pro wrestling#wrasslin
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thinking about 4halo again and dying
they just. they used to be so sweet together. and then the election arc managed to genuinely turn them against each other (and bad is still affected by being caged in the museum) and i would NOT have been surprised if a rebellion had started within the next few weeks after their last fight and. they used to be friends and then they almost destroyed each other
and then the eggs went missing
and there are so many parallels between them, but one of the biggest parallels is how they're both protectors. they both protected the eggs (and, when he became president, forever extended that protection to the other islanders) but the eggs went missing and they had to put all of that aside. Forever was quicker to put it down than Bad was (it felt like only a very temporary truce, from Bad's end), but they put their problems on hold, because their eggs. were gone.
and another parallel. the destruction. both of them with their plans to cause ruin because then, maybe, theyll get their kids back. bad caused most of the grieving arc damage directly, and got aypierre and antoine to help him. he dug holes in the ground. he placed mines everywhere and leapt into them. he started the lavacasting process of the fed building (and was interrupted by admins, so he stopped, but philza and fit were still right to laugh at him lmaoo). he drilled a hole through the side of the federation office from a huge distance away. he has chosen to hurt his friends and himself to get the eggs back. whatever the cost.
forever destroyed the island. or he planned to destroy the island. or he was interrupted just before he destroyed the island or or or. I don't know. but it was big, and it was bad. bad enough that the feds had to step in and forcefully drug him, and kickstart the happy pills arc.
and the happy pills arc..... oughghghgh as fucking awful as it was for their characters to experience i genuinely truly think that it saved them from each other. when he was first told about forever being fucked up bad was still in the "i need to kick his butt" mindset, and was all ready for an excuse to kill forever. and then he saw forever. and the first proposal happened. and bad was angry and he was sad and upset and he was careful. forever tried to kill him. bad decided to save him. forever kept trying to marry him. forever kept taking the pills. forever was so scared of his own anger and all of the damage he could and would have caused to his family that he kept taking drugs that kept him so out of his mind he hallucinated his son was just sleeping safely at his house.
and they both tried to kill each other. and they both failed.
and bad showed phil and cellbit (and tubbo) the item scanner that dapper discovered, which could destroy him, because nothing else was working. because they needed to save forever. because bad was reminded by then that forever was a victim of the federation instead of just a mouthpiece for it. and then when forever woke up he saw bad, suffering, and so excited to see him awake.
and now they're here on opposite sides again with forever projecting his protection urges onto the fed worker in bad's basement and bad frustrated that he isn't being believed and his evil plans of giving ron lemons apology brownies is being interrupted and. look at them. soft "i hate you" and the appreciation room and bad's quiet heartbreak when he learned about forever being missing and the "i miss you" book bad got mad at because it asked him not to torture fed workers. does anyone hear me im so ill about them. do you understand they care about each other so much and the happy pills arc reminded them of that. forever realized bad is colourblind and bad assumed forever was poisoning him and then forever helped bad cheat on another colourblindness test and forever was giving bad flowers and bad was accepting them and accepted that he was colourblind despite his previously constant denial and! i don't know if im being comprehensible and i dont really care i will be honest i just need you to know i am frothing at the mouth like a rabid little beast. they are a TRAGEDY of miscommunication and external pressure but they love so so much. platonic or romantic or qpp they CARE and it tears me to shreds
#qsmp#4halo#i feel like ive talked about this exact thing like three separate times but#its one of those things that really Kills Me#and its CRUCIAL to understanding them and their relationship#they were fighting and now have found peace in hell#and forever using his care for bad as a distraction to not focus on his Own woes#and the way he's so sure bad needs help the way he was helped that at heart bad is a good person who doesnt want to be hurting people#and in a Way he's right. bad doesn't want to hurt his loved ones. everyone else? yeah. in a heartbeat. but his family...#but he's still makign the choice to do it. it's not lashign out in desperation the way forever destroying the island was#bad is hurting people with Purpose. he's putting thought into it. he's testing people and their knowledge and their motivations and he will#use them all as tools that can be bent and broken if it means they get the eggs back. he'll do it to himself too#especially to himself#ghhhgrhrgh the way theyre both self sacrificial and self destructive the Parallels the fucking parallels#i can best examine their relationship from a bbh pov and it agonizes me because i can't get all the nuance of forever's pov#because i dont speak portuguese yet :c#so best i can do is talk crazy about them like a Lure for other analyst shippers#pspspssps dont you see my ship. dont you see how canon 4halo is !!! in 8 acts#dont you want to examine them and their parallels and the way they are both so strange about relationships but they're finding a way to car#in a way that works for them#pspspsps#like me talking about qbbh vacation arc got the fandom acknowledging his sillies and directly got me a friend to talk about him to (hi kia!#maybe it will work here also#come to the dark side we have complex relationship dynamics that are frequently misunderstood and mislabelled#YOU can help change the world
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i went to sleep yesterday instead of watching the eclipse episode BUT im here now and ready to suffer in a good way from the beauty that is akkayan
bRO
the parallels in this are crazy
the eclipse is filled with parallels and i love it so much
this is so funny, akk why do you keep saying that, hes gonna keep kissing you-
OHHHH HE KEEPS SAYING IT SO THAT AYE KEEPS KISSING HIM
I love them so much
i love the upside down kisses, it makes me think of the spiderman which makes me think of akk as spiderman which makes me think of how transmascs love spiderman which makes me have trans akk headcanons and ghjbdgfhjb i love it
GUYS YOU COULDVE SLEPT IN AN ACTUAL ROOM TOGETHER
YOU DIDNT NEED TO SLEEP THERE
THE OTHERS DIDNT
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
I LOVE YOU BUT YOURE SO SILLY
HES SO PRETTY HOW IS THIS MAN SO PRETTY
this scene is so funny
none of them even offer an excuse or explanation, they just run
what are namo and wat gonna do in the meantime while the others are doing their work 🤔🤔
HUZZAH I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN
i think we all knew this would happen
WAT YOURE A GENIUS
HE'S MAKING THEM MAKE UP AS CHARACTERS WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY MAKE THEM MAKE UP IN REAL LIFE BC THEIR LINES ARE VALID POINTS
lets give it up for our lord and saviour, wat
pffffft
sorry i know this is an important moment but-
but aye is just so short
and its so funny to me
even tho i know im shorter than khaotung by 16cm
its still funny
"i really want you to see them hug. theyre like two people who truly love each other but believe in different things" GRHJBSGD
i love platonic watsani moments they make me happy
some of my favourite scenes in the actual show are platonic watsani moments
theyre both my favourite characters (only by a little bit tho bc theyre all my favourite characters)
im just terrified of them being coupled together and im so glad theyve kept them entirely platonic and havent changed it at all, cos like for os2 they completely deferred off the seanmaitee train tracks bc winnysatang became a thing, but im glad theyve kept watsani's dynamic exactly the same, it makes me happy
THE TRIO TOGETHER AGAINNNN i missed them
i know theyve been hanging out this whole time but its been ages since weve seen just these three hanging out, their little friend group who've known each other for years, and can read each other inside out
theyve known each other for six years specifically
which is a really freaking long time
thats since they were in... year 6? BRO IMAGINE HOW TINY THEY WERE
AWW
DO YOU SEE NOW
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEIR FRIENDSHIP IS SO BEAUTIFUL
BHBJHVJHVJGV
"i think people hate or are afraid of something because they don't really understand it" KAN SPITTING FACTS
also gotta love the metaphor
look at how pretty this visual is
guess who im adding to my parents-to-destroy list
IM GONNA CRYYYY THEY ALL LOVE EACH OTHER AND COMFORT EACH OTHER AND WAT'S CRYING AND THEIR ARMS ARE AROUND EACH OTHER AND THEIR FRIENDSHIP IS SO BEAUTIFUL ITS KILLING ME
OMG
I KNOW WHATS COMING
THE HATS
THE FLIPIN HATS
IM GONNA HAVE A MENTAL BREAKDOWN ABOUT A COUPLE OF HATS
THEYRE SO CUTE IM NOT OKAY
always, aye
aye, a summary: pretty
THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES THE BIKES
NOW IM HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN ABOUT BIKES
the gender on these two is immaculate
i want their gender please
NOOO THEYRE DOING A NUENGPALM THING
I KNOW THEYLL BE FINE BC THEYRE SOULMATES BUT NOOOO WHYYYY
"your mouth is messy." "your mouth is messy too" "wipe it for me" "with what?" "your mouth." HHHHHHHH
IM SMILING SO HARD I CAN BARELY SEE
LITTLE CHEEK KISS
i think akkayan's cheek kisses will be the end of me one day
there you go, communication, good job, finally
WHY DID YOU GUYS COME TOGETHER, HMMMM??
ZOOM ZOOM
oh you stronzo
he's finished the song, hasnt he
and hes gonna sing it to akk tonight for his birthday
OH NO
POOR NAMOOOO
all good tho, now he can date wat
sorry im being insensitive
i hope he feels better soon
am i crying because of how much i love these two human beings? maybe.
OMG FILM TIME
JGHSDKGEUISJDFGVOIERJDHGOIREJBDL
WAT IS SO FREAKING TALENTED
i find it so funny that theyre all peeing together
also having a wall separating the urinals is so smart why is that not a thing everywhere
ah shoot i ran out of images again, hang on
#quodekash watches our skyy 2 despite desperately needing to sleep#quodekash watches the eclipse#quodekash rewatches the eclipse#the eclipse#the eclipse series#the eclipse the series#akkayan#ayanakk#firstkhao#firstkhaotung#khaotung thanawat#first kanaphan#thuakan#kanthua#neolouis#louisneo#louis thanawin#neo trai#our skyy x the eclipse#our skyy 2#our skyy 2 the eclipse#watnamo ?#wat the eclipse#aj chayapol#pawin kulkaranyawich#ployphach phatchatorn
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[ my brain decided to do a silly little backflip and get super interested in yan!mailman so uhm . . . ]
[ may i politely request a lore dump / info dump about yan!mailman ? /nf/lh ]
i was 100% sure i did some info/lore dump of yan!mailman but i really cannot find it so ill do it again! >:3c
ok so! yan!mailman is the mailman of a tiny city/town/valley where its that kind of place where everyone knows everyone wich kind of made his job easy since he knows everyone and everyone knows him, hes just a friendly fellow that likes to help people and always has a smile on his face while doing it!
he is 6'2 feet tall, hes 25 years old, he doesnt have a name yet but im betwen Noah, Oliver, Ethan, Alex, Andrew and Henry <:3 need help to choose and he has BPD, hypersexuality and ADHD with a hyperfixation on letters :D
before his darling comes to town, everyone was already talking about the new person coming to buy the house in sale, news run quikly in the little town
when his darling gets there, when he sees them he just stands there watching them put the boxes inside the house, he almost looks hypnotized by them (OH ALSO! his eyes turn pink when looking at his darling :3 normaly his eyes are a pink-ish gray)(i would also like to say that i like to imagen that his pink eyes glow a bit in the dark just cause :3c)
he talks to them a lot and wants to know *everything* about them, of course its because everyone knows everyone in there and it will make his job easy! haha no hes not obsessed with them! what do you mean?! gfdhdfgsdfgcxyrtf
if them say hi can help with the boxes hes 100% going to help and maybe even keep somethings to himself, somethings that theyll probably not noticed much if it went missing
everytime that he sees a letter for his darling that someone elses wats him to send it, he points the letter at the sun to see if theres anthing that "interesting" in there and if he can read that its somekind of love letter, he is not gonna like that and just simply not deliever it, instead waiting till his houme or when its night to open it, he feels guilty at first yes! cause its like, againt the rules of a mailman thats not to open someone elses letter, but like, if no one knows it, maybe its fine!
he reads the letter and just simply destroy it after wards or when he just dont want to read it anymore like "how could this person think they know more about my darling then me!?!!!!?"
he also writes his own letters, some he send it to you as a anonymos admire and others he keeps it to himself, it could be cause its too obsessive like, or too expecific, it can be any reason really
also! about that person that wrote his darling a love letter, hes going to very quietly at night kill the person, its a very calm town so no one would know that that happen, it can take a while to someone to discover the body and who was the killer since no one can thing of someone that could had done this
no one would suspect the fellow mailman that only job is deliever letters and help people!
also! after killing the person, he uses theyre blood to write a love letter, and he does this every time he kills some one, it just feels more especial
#mailman speak#r0ttiingphantasm#yan!mailman#OK! THAT WAS A LOT! <:D GFDSHTRFYGFSHTFR SORRY#long post
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Ghazi Hamad is the Hamas leader I was referring to. He did an live interview on a Lebanese news channel on October 24th. I don't speak Arabic, but Memri TV quotes him as saying
"Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country, because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force."
And
"We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. The Al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs."
I don't speak Arabic, so maybe Memri is lying to me. Maybe it's biased and I'm misinformed, maybe Hamad isn't representative, but I'm not lying. That's why I sent you that ask, to try to get your side. Because I genuinely don't know how Israel can have a ceasefire with Hamas if Hamas is committed to repeating October 7th (that is what the "Al-Aqsa Flood" is, right?) until Israel is destroyed.
That's not to say that I agree with the way Israel has gone about this war. I was referring specifically to a ceasefire. Do the sources from your article say that Hamas surrenders in that proposed agreement? Or do they go on to slaughter and kidnap more civilians? Could that not be why Israel agreed to humanitarian pauses instead of a ceasefire?
(Also, you accuse me of lying and then immediately misquote me as saying "all sides" instead of "multiple sides" but whatever.)
It is disgusting to me though that you refer to it as "empty threats". When Hamas indiscriminately slaughters civilians at a music festival, is that empty to you? Does a pile of women with their hands tied behind their backs, no pants, and a bullethole in the head matter to you? When they go kibbutz to kibbutz slaughtering civilians, is that not a genocide to you? Or does it not count because they're Jewish?
5 hours where hamas doesnt bomb people hardly constitute “humanitarian pauses”, frankly. but i’ll take ur word for hamas saying that, memri tv’s translations have generally been accurate so i assume it would be accurate there. that said, long before october 27, several israeli officials and soldiers have blatantly and explicitly said that they plan to entirely erase gaza and take over gaza. not to mention israel’s history of uplifting hamas with the goal of dividing and conquering & making it hard for palestine to form a state.
the source said that hamas offered to return dozens of hostages for several days of ceasefire. you could click the link, you know. it says israel rejected it because they dont want a ceasefire for several days. can you explain how its meant to somehow help the hostages to constantly bomb the same little strip the hostages are in indiscriminately? clearly israel doesn’t even care for the hostages because they’ve taken actions that wouldnt somehow spare them.
i dont care what you find disgusting. hamas has existed for decades and only on one event have they actually managed to make significant damage, and even then it did not manage to do more damage than israel has been doing for decades. them saying “we’ll do it again and again” and israel actively, actually, doing the war crimes theyre saying theyll commit (whereas hamas did not in fact manage to do october 7 again and again) is an empty threat, at least comparatively. you trying to turn this around on me while justifying the mass-killing of palestinian children, palestinian civilians, even palestinians in the west bank with nothing to do with hamas is a joke.
if it’s a genocide for hamas to have committed attacks on one day, then how the fuck is it not genocide for israel’s govt to explicitly say they want to commit a genocide and to have a 75 year history of mass-killing and oppressing palestinians? i didnt once justify hamas’ attacks on october 7th, but you’ve happily justified every attack by israel prior to that and every attack by israel (ie the attack on october 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 etc all the way until november 22) since that day.
#‘agh its so disgusting how ur saying hamas simply saying theyll do something again isnt on par with israel actively acting on their#genocidal intentions repeatedly in history and throughout the past nearly 2 months!’
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you know what fine. they cant hurt me here [closes my eyes] if u asked me how i would do the tos g1 crossover like. heres a thought. start it with the enterprise meeting the decepticons. and contrive a reason that megatron decides to trick them instead of outright destroy them. maybe he can put together these arent regular humans they time traveled/dimensioned hopped and is playing it cool. maybe he wants the space ship technology. whatever. g1 megatron loves tricking petty humans who are easily impressed by him being a big fucking alien robot. the tos crew excells at meeting and learning about suspect characters of unsusal bearing and fantastical existence.
the key here is ofc. megatron is excellent at this. soundwave is inscrutible. starscream is great at manipulating ppl for his own gain. but also loves undermining megatron. i would sayyyyy. basically every other decepticon to the letter. would fuck this up in some way. (for the sake of convience its obvious the tf casts MUST be limited in some regard. but take a random selection and its still true. stunticons are rowdy and dont respect anyone. combaticons are fucking criminals lol. the triple changes tried to over throw megatron but they actually ARE stupid. the casset guys are little shits. the only ones i give half a chance are the constructicons cause theyve tricked their own share of humans and autobots. And like. Give em a job to do (handwave. ship repair??) and theyll do it)
[Oh and the seeker squad is girls again. Dont try me on this.) Fuck off or forever hold your peace]
THE POINT THO. the vision. is just to use that fact to get the hijinks in. i need a scene of spock talking to soundwave for the obvious logical Science guy reasons. but also while actually directing his attention to ravage (search 'spock and cat' if you require elucidation). the crew management sitaution is out of hand. the rank and file of both factions being fascinated but not really respectful of each other probably. starscream gets annoyed when theres a real lack of treachy amongst starfleet ranks. whatever.
The facade will crack some and give things for the enterprise crew to get suspisious of. BUT. but. the trick is not allowed to fall apart outright. UNTIL AFTER. you get the autobots in there. THIS. is to give it that extremely star trek feeling. meeting aliens inbroiled in their OWN whole situation and determining what the ethical thing to do is. let it play out. its sci fi. we're here to watch. prime directive doesnt apply thats for PRE-WARP species tf doesnt even work like that. space bridges. who knows.
ANYWAY the actual shakeup of the conflict is allowed to be as rote as u like. i dont watch either show for the FIGHT scenes lmao. tho DO get some moral twists in there. give it some pizzazz.
either way autobot and enterprise crew interactions DID happen but needed MUCH improvement. i NEED to see prime and kirk ACTUALLY be warm smart and affable guys who have fun with it. kirk likes books and hates eating salad. and. i dont know how many times i have to say this. OPTIMUS PRIME IS A BALLER. they got quirks okay. its not just blah blah speeches. snoreeee. the 60 and 40 yr old versions some how stay richer than the diluded parodies of themselves they become. christ
obviously again for the autobots youd need to limit the cast. like bee and jazz can be their due to icon status. they are both fun and very human affable. g1 bee also tends to be a bit of a fucking wildcard too. jazz can play 'classical earth music' as the joke goes. etc. but like. OBVIOUSLY. obviously u need scotty and wheeljack to interact. chaos and techincal advancements until before seen. yes they can have a bathtub still too (WHAT. they are destilling. is anyones guess). and thru that line u SHOULD probably have ratchet and bones. bitchy medics <3. they have a similar level of sass (tho i can never peg if g1 ratch is actually southern... if he isnt i request one ironhide and bones interaction for Enjoyable Idioms and Affects Sake)
if U MUST. make it girl boss. for the love of christ. elita and her autobots. nurse chapel and chromia (i dont think chromia is actually a medic shes just blue. but she IS similarly no nonsense) elita and uhura (how the FUCK was there so little uhura in that comic fhbgdf) elita acts as like 'the woman in the chair' to her own squad, check how many antennas she has. uhura is communications. great. ill even allow u a yeoman rand and moonracer. this ones more niche but rand is a peppy and creative petty officier who one time used her phaser to heat up coffee. moonracer is the more trouble making implusive of the ladies, and a boostful sharp shooter. FANTASTIC.
anyway the point is not that everyone ONLY has to hang out with their perfect personality/role counterpart that their ARE such things to related the characters too each other. if bones is gonna be all southern gentlemanly would it remind chromia OF ironhide? would someone charmlying remark they thought THEIR doctor was a menace. or such things.
obviously i have the power of an obsessive brain to make as many comparitive deep cuts as i like. and i wont claim that MAKES a good story. im just saying. if ur gonna cross them over. why not do it with a big pallet of the things that Actually make both good???
(not that im done making personally amusing to me comparisons. like sulu and his plant collection and the nature lovers hound and beachcomber. or adding some of the affectier characters for an old queen off with spock, like grapple and hoist. or tracks just to be maxiumally annoying :). im also completely HOOKED on the idea of pointing out u know. not all the enterprise crew is human. ofc, spock is half vulcan. (this happened in the comics) but... the transformers know about human like aliens? one of them is even DATING ONE which come to think of it. She also goes to the alien design school of Pointy ears. and also. again. dating. making a hybrid tf alien joke about this OR asking mr spock if he can transform magically is personally amusing to me)...
also no one asked but if u want assigned tf iterations to other treks. i think im going cybertron for tng, theres just vibes. ig they can have the whole unicron trilogy if they want. unicron is KINDA like the borg? i mean not really, i was mostly just thinking... vector prime is like if picard was a q i cant explain it. beast wars for voy and maybe toss up animated or cyberverse for ds9. i mean. those are all just my favie favies of all time but like. beast wars they are stranded on prehistoric earth, limit cast, u will be in this found family coworker situation whether u LIKE IT or NOT. theirs tones of WEIRD mysteries to uncover. and. obligatory. turn into a lizard joke. (the swag of bw villians is pretty ds9 vibes tho...). cyberverse is a story about how these are a people who were and can be again reunited and joyful outside of their tragic and complex civil war. and animated is about a bunch of losers who flunked out the Militarized and generally FUCKED UP autobot government THAT SUCKS. anyway. war... is hell
and prodigy gets earthspark. KIDS KIDS KIDS!!!
v would you step thru the fucking door with me for a second where we could have a tf st crossover that DIDNT suck ass cause it understood the main mode of opperation for both shows is to having our valient heroes as friends and comrades and yes they must deal with the 'wouldnt that be wild' situation of the week but they also have to. deal with EACH OTHER. and their MAIN. goal is really just to be enjoyable television. which often requires a great deal of well made humour. and often incidentally created a lot of guys and their wives they love so much. Kfhhfdg
#some shit#its not called cisformers#POST THATS JUST FOR ME I GUESS LMAO.#and what a tumblr post ass tumblr post it is too......#but hey. i have the requiste knowledge dont i..... who else was gonna do it#i JUST dont see the point of involving tos villians in a tf st crossover when. MEETING WARRING ALIEN ROBOTS. already perfectly#fits the brief for a tos episode plot and conflict. and i dont think u appease st fans MORE by cutting more tos crew interactions out for.#random klingon number 4#anyway this is a lot more involved in turtle trek isnt it..... thats just projecting the experience of a BEING a trek fan#unto the turtles. who are already canonically trek fans.#BUT. o777#i WILL SAY. same as last time. the answer is the same. tom paris ABSOLUTLEY. knows what transformers are.#he loves old cartoons. AND HE LOVES OLD CARS.#AND!!! clicky buttons??#WOE!!! g1 toy be upon him
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Pretty please continue the jealous Jeno pleaseee 🥺
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Pairings: jeno x reader
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Part 1
Warnings: dom!jeno, sub!reader, spanking, hair pulling, choking, slight dumbification, praising, possessiveness, jealousy
Jeno leaned in close and you could feel his hot breath against your face, "But since your being shy how about i just fuck you in front of them? Imagine they walk by and see me destroying your little pussy? Of course they'll know who owns you after this."
Jeno pulled your body against his as he kissed you roughly. His lips worked against yours as he bit down hard enough for you to gasp, shoving his tongue inside. You whined when you felt him slide your pants off without hesitation. With the door open and the lingering feeling of being caught, you suddenly felt more excited than before.
Jeno wasted no time fucking three fingers into you, trying to make you scream as he watched with a smirk. Your body shook with pleasure and you could only bite your lip to hold back the moans just so no one downstairs could hear you.
"You have a voice use it. Show everyone who you belong to." Though jenos face was stone cold, you couldn't bear the thought of moaning when everyone was downstairs, especially when jisung and chenle were right there. "Now." Jeno growled, but you still couldnt bring yourself to do it. So soon enough he forcefully rolled you over and quickly spanked your ass a few times. Only little gasps and groans left your lips from the sudden contact and after spanking you, he went down to eat you out.
Just the sudden intimacy made your back arch and a moan to slip. Jenos hand moved up your body to grip your neck as he kept his eyes on you, still tongue deep inside. "Again." Jeno mumbled into your heat, you still bit back on your voice and tried to stay as silent as possible, even if it meant pissing him off more.
"Please jeno...I cant." You choked out, grabbing his wrist in one hand while the other gripped his hair, but jeno found another way to make you scream his name instead.
As he lapped his tongue over your clit, he took his other hand and pushed his fingers into you at a rough pace. The hand on your throat loosened just a bit so he could hear you. But the only sounds he heard were sighs and grunts. If he wants people to hear you then he'll just try harder.
"I bet if jaemin or hyuck were fucking you right now you'd moan, right? Too bad you're mine and theyll never be able to fuck you like I do." Jeno lifted his head up to make eye contact with you, "right?" You quickly nodded your head, just trying to focus on the nearing orgasm building up.
Just as you were about to open your mouth for permission to cum, jeno pulled his fingers away and brought them up to his lips to lick up. Too shy to watch him, you looked down at your naked lower half. A contrast to the fully clothed man in front of you.
"Keep your eyes on me princess." He muttered around his fingers and you tried to look at him, but his gaze was so intimidating to you. "Now, when I fuck you, I want you to scream my name. If you don't, ill bring you downstairs and fuck you in front of everyone. Understand?"
"Y-yes sir." He sent you a wink before removing all his clothes. You couldnt help but stare at how nice his body was, all the working out seemed to pay off for him. But jeno didn't let you stare for too long before pushing you down and lining himself, teasing you ever so slightly before pushing himself in. You tried biting your hand, but remembered what jeno said just two seconds ago and just let yourself go.
It only took one particular thrust to actually make you scream, his length perfectly hitting your cervix, "Fuck, jeno!" You grabbed the sheets as jeno kept his hands steady on your hips, moving up and down.
"See? That wasnt so hard pretty girl. Keep screaming my name."
It wasnt long until you actually listened and just let loose, letting your voice take over instead of your mind. Jeno seemed to love it and it fueled him to go harder and faster. You just knew everyone downstairs was silent because of your constant moaning and screaming of jenos name. And you should've felt bad but now, it felt too good for you to care.
"My little girl," jeno grunted, "only mine."
Whining, your eyes rolled back as you felt the oncoming orgasm from before coming back. "Jeno....please...."
"Please what? Talk to me if you want something." You whined again and tried to spit it out, but stuttered too much to even form a sentence. "Am I fucking you so well that you've gone stupid? How cute."
"Je...no....pl-please- wanna cum.."
Jeno smiled, "then be a good girl and cum."
You didnt have to be told twice and came around his cock without realizing that he had came too, only it wasnt on your body.
"Keep my cum inside you like a good bitch." He proceeded to shove the cum that was leaking out of your heat with his finger with a sadistic smirk. "You can go downstairs now."
"B-but the b-boys are here." You mumbled letting jeno slide on his pants and shirt before dressing you too.
"Good. They'll know not to get too close." Jeno cockily replied. So you complied only because you didnt want to anger him. But you stopped when you felt something begin to drip down your thigh.
This was going to be a long day.
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Hello! I keep forgetting if I already sent an ask here but if I did, well, hello again! (I wanted to try and send a message with my side blog which is more Fairy Tail oriented but tumblr refuses to let me do so...) Just wanted to know your opinion on the Dragon Cry movie and if you're part of the 'I refuse to acknowledge its existence' club (I am as of now its only known member...) as I know you have the same position on the sequel as I do. Also wow can't believe we have the same fav character!
Well, the second movie does exist i'll give it that lol. But it's not really for me.
First off i am just not a fan of the overly bright colour palette and just how shiny everyone and everything was. Just, not for phoenix. Much prefer the duller colours of the first film.
Plus the plot just felt so, unorganized for lack of a better word? Feels like so much happens in it-
Our squad is recruited by the royal family to do a covert mission to find this military guy who defected to another country with some rare dragon artifact (seriously what is the legal limitations of what a guild can and cant do in universe. Why can they do so many things. Its like going down to your local community club and recruiting people to spy on Putin).
Also the military dude who defected likes to kidnap chicks and keep em in a dungeon? For some reason? And he's into feet? Why did we need to know this?
The super rare dragon artifact has the malice of all the dragons Acnologia killed and is basically a weapon of mass destruction (how did such a thing even come into existence?)
Actually theres a dragon wearing a girl as a skin puppet and wants the staff so he can regain his full power once more.
END shows up for like, 2 minutes for some reason.
Theres an Acnologia scene at the end giving him a back story that was no where to be found in the original series. (EDIT , ok got reminded that the Acnologia ribbon scene does show up in the manga 3 chapters before the series ends but its there in the OG thing. Still don't like it tho lol)
It felt like a bunch of ideas stitched together awkwardly instead of a smooth transition of events. Comparing to the first movie where the squad was just helping out a stranger and accidentally walked into a bigger plot, where whatever questions it brought up it answered (what was the phoenix? Answered. Who made it and why? Answered. Why was Eclaire immortal? Answered.)
I feel like, if instead there was a focus on one of the plot points things would've gone a bit better. Like for example-
shift focus fully onto the dragon artifact plot line.
Instead of having the squad be recruited (because i believe in limits to what a guild can do) have them kinda walk into the plot.
On the return from a mission sees a group getting attacked, jumps in to help leading to the inciting incident.
The group getting attacked is a small group of council spies who have the dragon artifact to return to be destroyed and with the squads efforts help fend of the attackers (mages from other countries trying to steal the artifact).
The 2 groups spend the night together and the spies explain their mission and the artifact they have (complete with flashbacks of what it is, how it was created and why and the guy who smuggled it out of fiore). There's animosity between the 2 groups(wizard vs council) but its ultimately decided that theyll make the journey back as one group for safety and such.
Clashing views of each other leads to arguments and possible understandings here and there alongside a few more minor attacks as the journey goes on. Also to note the dragon slayers act weird when in the presence of the artifact a la flashbacks and phantom pains and junk
Around 3/4 of the way through the film the major event happens and the artifact gets stolen away, plus the 2 dragon slayers present cause i dunno. Reasons. So now its a race to get em back.
Showdown with the movie bad guys. While main bad guy monologues his evil plan to use the energy (i dunno like absorb the energy in the staff to make themself a monolith of unstoppable power and bring the world to its knees). Wendy and Natsu warn him of what they feel from it and the dangers.
Squad reaches big bad just as he activates the artifact and releases the energy. Artifact breaks, energy disperses but doesn't all go to the big bad. Some goes to Natsu & Wendy forcing them into dragon force (well one into dragon force anyways).
Big bad is driven nuts and out of control by all the negative energy. Natsu and Wendy are struggling to keep control. So its the full squad vs the one big bad for the climatic fight.
Big bad gets defeated, energy is dispersed, Wendy powers down. Natsu takes significantly longer to come down from the energy and almost reached a point of breaking but turns back to normal (this is basically a backdoor introduction to E.N.D.)
There's a moment of calm with someone cracking a joke about how to explain this to the higher ups at the council. They all leave to finish the journey back. Credits rolls with a montage of pics between the squad and the council spies both during the events of the movie and after.
Ok I swear i didn't mean to rewrite the second movie. This was an accident
But even though i much prefer the first movie the second one has its perks. The animation is pretty decent, the backgrounds are lovely and the voice acting is solid. So not a complete loss i guess.
Except for the jiggle physics and that club dance scene with Lucy, those are unforgivable.
Like seriously the swang on those thangs is crazy
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Please talk more about your reboot!
16: If you could change anything in the show, what would you change?
okay so how i would re-do CANON is completely different from how i would talk abt a reboot so im gonna touch on a couple things in both contexts! the reason for the difference is canon rewrites imply i can go back in time and introduce dp fresh and new, before anyone knows what it is; but for a reboot, id be working with an audience that has a better understanding of the source material, so i dont need to spend as much time explaining, but i also need to keep everything recognizable
Valerie
REWRITE: i would def make it more danny's fault that her dad lost his job, like danny was intentionally being reckless and shattered some security stuff, and he has a whole mini lesson about learning to not just run in guns blazing. i would probably remove the dating stuff with her and danny (and tuckers crush) too, I think them wanting to be good friends is good enough for freshman year
REBOOT: the fandom already knows valerie exists, so i would actually skip the whole shades-of-gray introductory episode and have her be present as the huntress from day 1-- probably even before danny got his powers. cujo is also HER dog, and her backstory-- we'd find out in like, season 1, that a natural ghost portal (maybe one wulf opened) ripped open on her dog and killed him, and since then shes had a vendetta against ghosts cause of how reckless they are and their disregard for life-- of course, cujo isnt actually dead. cujo is a halfa. a puby halfa. anyway instead of a hoverboard she actually rides cujo around cause he can fly and its big and epic. valerie has BEEN amity parks ghost-eradicating superhero for at least a year (tho shes been in the shadows abt it) and her hatred towards danny actually just becomes really petty, like them flying next to each other chasing skulker just going "I got this. no I got this. no I got this" and they just get in each others' way and its a mutual grudge.
BOTH: i am NOT keeping in vlad giving her the suit to watch danny under any circumstances. it was only utilized half assedly in canon (when vlad couldve just had an invisible duplicate watching him instead) anyway, and I dont have any reason to keep it in a reboot either. instead i want her tech to be a combination of half-stolen and half-gerryrigged stuff and she slowly slowly learns how to build her own.
I also dont want anyone knowing her secret identity, except maybe her dad, and sam or tucker. i think it works better if danny isnt privy to this magic info
Freakshow
REWRITE: i would honestly just remove him. the episodes hes in arent particularly interesting, theyre just generic "we need a plot about x" filler and he's not compelling enough a character (at least in writing) to carry a better plot that another antagonist couldnt. i'm serious
REBOOT: unfortunately in a reboot he's gonna have to pop up somewhere or else ppl will be like "where IS HE" so I'm going to stick with running some kind of ghost circus, maybe a few occult things, but cut out a lot of the spooky magical knowledge and mcguffin stuff. maybe i could make him like, someone from vlad/jack/maddies college who always felt pushed around by them and so he has a vendetta? and theyd be the only reason he even learned abt ghosts in the first place. idk in either way I want to force him into being irredeemable but also include LYDIA (the tattoo girl ghost) way more-- I want to give her an arc that ends in her tossing freakshow aside and running off to be a ghost vigilante.
BOTH: dear god the infinity gauntlet is stupid that needs to GO AWAY. especially for the reboot cause it would exist in a post-mcu world and way too many people would complain about it
Vlad
REWRITE: amp him up to a far more sinister and villainous character. the crushing on maddie isnt enough, I want to show him on-screen performing experiments on ghosts and himself, dismissing everyone else cause he thinks hes smarter than them. i want him to be actively sabotaging the fentons at every turn. i would also clarify that he doesnt actually want danny as a son, but as a trophy-- a line where danny says something along the lines of "you don't want a son. you want a slave". i want to make him a character who wants to destroy the entire planet and put it in the ghost zone so he can be the true ghost king and i want to make this all evident from day one. if i'm writing a series villain you can bet i'm going to write a GOOD one. less petty drama here and more actual stakes.
REBOOT: it seems silly but sense with reboot we have the benefit of hindsight and recognizing that vlad wasn't a big series villain, theres no way i'd actually go back and write him to be such. for starters, of course, theres the fact that anything he does would really be an exaggerated part of the original, and it would bore an audience to see the same story again-- theres also the fact that it doesnt seem right to take a character who was treated as a joke half the time and suddenly make them big and important. no, instead for my reboot i want to lean into the petty gay uncle vibe. he had a crush on jack and now just casually insults him. he moves mansions every now and again by just haunting the family who lives in the one he wants, and taking over-- i mean, who is gonna believe that an actual ghost haunted you. he dislikes danny not because he has some concept of 'evil' and 'good' but bc danny is just too damn active. of course he actually does care about danny and his safety deep down, it's just on the surface they have very conflicting motivations-- not to mention that danny has been raised on legends from his parents of the villainous Wisconsin Ghost, who has to be stopped at all costs.
BOTH: i want jack and maddie to KNOW he's a half ghost and to actively be hunting him down for it, maybe bc they think hes possessed, or been a ghost tricking them this whole time, or the victim of a tragic lab accident who needs to be put to rest, etc. whatever the case it will give vlad actual tangible reason to despise them and genuinely suspect they dont have dannys best interests at heart. i think it would be neat if vlad was cynical and every time danny hit him with the "I'll expose us both. at least theyll still love ME" vlad could be like in the back of his head "oh god theyre going to kill this child"
Dani
REWRITE: cut her out. we don't need her character at all. maybe replace her with a more ominous shadow duplicate / clone that actually looks like danny himself and doesnt really have a name? you could probably combine her and dark dans characters for their arcs
REBOOT: instead of a clone from vlad, she's a guys in white creation using some of dannys dna after he was captured (and vlad broke him out bc he was like "ugh i guess i have to save this child")
BOTH: vlad actually cares abt her (duh), shes nonbinary (double duh), she gets the funny dissolve into goo powers
i had more i thought i was gonna write but this post is already very long and also im running out of coherency for this LUL
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You can't just drop that "I read Forces Multiplied" bomb on us and not give a ten page written reaction.
[cracks knuckles] if u insist
nicky cant drive hc: destroyed. rip. also i loved how andy and nile stole those sports cars and were being badass and driving off the bridge & meanwhile joe and nicky were just absolutely vibing in the van
'heres the thing about power: people who have it think they deserve it' [shot of police car] i see u greg
5 whole panels being dedicated to booker not being able to unlock his door. booker not even seeing noriko sitting RIGHT THERE in the window at first. incredible
noriko being 24/7 horny was surprising. like wow all of the stuff i saw she did out of context was 100% equally horny in context as it was out of context. love that for her
i didnt think the 'andy + slavery' thing was handled as badly as everyone made it out to be when telling me about it. tho from the way it was talked about i had kind of figured the conflict between andy and nile re: slavery would be really racially charged (esp considering nile is a black american and would obvs have Thoughts on the subject in that regard) but like,, done in a cringey 'a-white-guy-obviously-wrote-it' kind of way? but it wasnt that. i mean. it makes sense that andy would be implicit in slavery through the years
i mean, like she says, is that not what people just did to each other in the aftermath of battles for thousands of years? and i really like how its pointed out that it was what she was raised with (in the beginning when you see her put shackles on that guy after the battle) but she also accepts responsibility for it and acknowledges that it was wrong and not just 'what people did'.
i like how from her expressions you can kind of tell baby andy knew it was off but she sets those feelings aside bc she felt angry. it explains how she felt but didnt make her out to be blameless in it. plus i mean. i dont know, the fact that andy was involved in a lot of morally shady stuff for 7000 years is not that wild for me. if you live that long youre just Going to be involved in some shit, and she didnt even have other immortals with her as positive community influences, she literally just did whatever the fuck she wanted for thousands of years
'i was worshipped as a god once' i mean, yeah no shit she wouldve been involved in some seriously fucked up stuff, gods were fucking scary back in the day
tldr it could use some polish but it wasnt that bad
tho everything people said about moose being boring was unfortunately a little true. sorry king i tried to be interested in you
joe and nicky writing verbal fanfiction about nile and moose was iconic. 'you seeing that?' 'i am definitely seeing that'
it was also extremely funny bc that was like 60% of their contribution to the whole comic, besides kidnapping copley. they came, they wrote some fanfic, they left. kings. at least in tog1 they had an excuse to be useless bc they got kidnapped
joe just found out his old friend who he thought was dead is alive (and also probably wants to murder them) and instead of investigating with andy he stopped to help nile up. champ.
nicky shooting noriko through andy was cool. rip to the concept since it wont happen in tog2
wanna see mr ejiofor deliver this line
on that note imo copley was. weirdly enough, more interesting in fm than in tog1. to me at least. the fact that andy let him live and he was so haunted by what had happened that he came back and sought them out despite knowing they would likely kill him for it bc he wanted to not only make up for what hed done but also to tell them what theyd done for the world was admittedly more interesting than andy just kind of drafting him to the cause and him going 'okie'
i like how nicky was drawn in this one. in opening fire he looks like a blob man but in fm he looks more like a very nice grampa with a very good dye job
'theres no pain like a broken heart' andy 🥺
noriko implying andy's never drowned. .. .idk about that one, she musta drowned sometime
joe and nicky came, they waxed poetic about nile's love life, they waxed poetic about grog, and then they left.
sports bras being a reason humanity is good. i mean..... okay, yeah.
i mean. wild but you cant exactly tell her shes wrong
i liked how noriko telling andy that their purpose is to make people suffer coincides with joe and nicky finding out that they actually did good all those years
joenicky in opening fire: jail for booker jail for booker for 100 years
joenicky when copley tells them he knows where booker is: WE'LL KILL YOU WHERE IS HE
joenicky when copley comes back: if your vibes come off as even remotely rancid we Will destroy you
joenicky 2 minutes later when copley helped them find booker: he made up some ground :)))) <3 lov you j cops
theyre forgiving af
moose: how old are you?? a hundred??? a thousand???
nile [vine voice]: I M 2 7 ?
alright andy you got me there
joe texts like my aunt
i dont know why noriko drowning andy in that car tickled me. Bad And Naughty Andromaches Get Put In The Pear Wiggler To Atone For Their Crimes.
the drowning sequence was cool
copley trying to talk to andy while she was like o_o at him was great
ive hit the picture limit but id seen that panel where nicky goes 'forgive me' as he kills a guy out of context and it was HILARIOUSLY anticlimactic for me to discover that there was literally no context to it. nicky just apologizes to random people he kills. i thought that guy was someone he knew or something. nope its just Some Guy that nicky didnt know from adam
nile's complaint that andy was especially brutal to the guys on the boat... i mean. . , how exactly does one kill a man with an axe and not be brutal about it?
it was funny how noriko kissed andy and the only people who seemed surprised by that were nile and also andy
nicky and joe's complete non-reaction to finding out noriko is alive And Evil Now is endlesly funny. they just left her on that boat and neither cared. i get book and nile not caring but joe and nicky knew her, and they just have 0 input on the subject of what to do with her
pinstripe suit guy!
joe and nicky and booker packing up and leaving with nile
andy blowing up at nile was A Moment tho
i dont know, i get why people didnt like the ending but its. .. . it makes more sense in the comicverse. bc the squad doesnt really. .. interact outside of jobs? i mean, think of the moon landing story in ttt. that was booker and joe and nicky doing a job and andy only showed up a for a couple minutes after it was done. or the brunch in the first issue of opening fire. the squad arent as tight in the comic, and andy often seems to do her own thing outside of work, so andy saying 'i dont want to do work anymore' and the squad being like 'alright bye then' makes more sense in this universe than the movie one
also i feel like greg was Trying to set up a thing where nile becomes the Leader of The Squad after andy dies but like. its not very well done since. . . i mean, nile hasnt spoken to booker since opening fire, (and she only knew him A Day). and shes known joe and nicky all that time, but there isnt really anything that indicates that they have any relationship at all, much less one that's grown. in all the comicverse the only time nile and nicky speak is in FM, and in that scene nicky tells nile about noriko. nile goes from someone who needs to be set aside to have background knowledge explained to her to being the Leader of the group with nothing in between. it kind of... comes out of nowhere.
on the other hand tho... i felt really bad for andy thru the whole thing. well, i always felt bad for andy, but in this one she seemed so miserable, especially since it really felt like none of the others actually.... cared about her. when noriko came back no one asked andy how she was doing (big question ik, but it wouldve showed they cared at least), nobody ever expressed any concern for her, no one even really seemed to want to be around her. in opening fire everyone was more distant than in the movie of course, but there were little moments where she would joke with joe, or nicky would try and comfort her, or stuff like that, but in FM it really felt like they just didnt really care about her. & in opening fire it felt a lot like andy's relationship with nile breathed some new life into her, but in FM it felt like all they did was argue. i get theyre not *as* close in the comics but it really felt like the only person who cared about andy at all was noriko (which was probably also how andy felt) but it just seemed to come out of nowhere. honestly i was reading and i was honestly agreeing with andy that she might just be better off if she did just die. opening fire, on the other hand, never make me feel that way
tho everyone made it sound like when the squad split up it was one of those cursed 'the found family leaves each other at the end of the journey' tropes. but guys i mean,,, this is the second installment out of three. that isnt the End. theyll come back in the third one and Dramatically Reunite to fight some baddies (probably those 'others' noriko mentioned). im guessing yitzhak fits into that too somehow.
anyways it wasnt That Bad but it made me kind of sad and the only Sweet Found Family vibes in it were when they saved booker. also they shouldve beefed up that nilemoose romance, it underwhelmed me. 6.5/10
i also ABSOLUTELY understand all of greg's comments about how you couldnt make FM directly into a movie, he always said that it had no plot and. i get it now. it really didnt have a plot sdfghjkl
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could u explain what you mean by timeline issues with osiris being an imposter??
sure!! i know we all hate the Dreaded Destiny Timeline but this is more of a personal thing. i know that for about a year or so people have theorized that savathun has a spy in the city, but the identity of this spy was mostly jokes or wild guesses (shaxx is the imposter! banshee is the imposter! the postmaster is the imposter!) and bungie/savathun herself even makes fun of this in the lore booktruth to power.
i just feel like hints were not laid soon enough that it was OSIRIS that was the imposter. imo for an arc like this to be narratively satisfying, hints need to be subtle but immediately apparent on the second look through and need to be planted as early as possible. although we still don’t know for sure, many people theorize that osiris was swapped out when sagira died, and i think this is a pretty good theory. however, hints were not present then other than just osiris not having any lore from his point of view (which i find compelling with other evidence, but not on its own) and i think this was because bungie was pretty set on having the crowsiris mentor arc, which just doesn’t make sense if he was a savathun meat puppet at this time. could this be savathun helping and mentoring crow? i mean, sure, but then when it’s revealed that it wasn’t actually osiris we just destroyed about a season of crow & osiris’ character development as a mentor/mentee pair. bc that wasn’t actually osiris and he doesn’t have that bond. which to me is like ok then what was the POINT of that season? i guess to me what would be a more compelling way to tell this would be to have osiris slowly being corrupted by savathun instead of being a meat puppet, but then again i would like to see this process. i want to actually see him slowly start to change rather than him just being absent for a season and then coming back for season of the splicer and all of a sudden being suspicious as fuck. we don’t know how long seasons are in game time but for us they’re only a couple of months. that’s just not enough time to set up a huge reveal like this to me.
again, i don’t really think this arc is terribly written and i think theyll do a pretty good job of wrapping it up, i just think the setup couldve been better, which is something that bungie has historically had problems with and something i’ve spoke about before. bungie either draws things out for way too long or just suddenly implements them in the story with little buildup which leads to them not being as impactful as they could be.
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why the hive fckin suck at its job: a rant
spoilers for tgwdlm ahead!
first of all, it's important to consider what exactly the hive's job is. my answer is... who the fuck knows. literally. what is the hive's aim. what do you want Paul? more like, what do you want hive? let's find out!
it kinda evolves, as the play progresses. the intial aim of the hive, and one that does actually remain consistent is the constant burning need to grow and devour and gain more and more (insert capitalism metaphor here).
however, this is distorted by the people it possess who influence that aim, as we'll see later.
also the fact it crashes into a theatre displaying Mamma Mia gives the hive the motive it need to fit the world around it to the structure of the musical. having no originality of its own, the hive instead just picks up what is given to it. kinda like an evil baby.
it wants uniformity, that is indeed its ultimate goal and desire, no duh. it thinks it can achieve that through musical theatre, shame that the hive is dead wrong. cause the hive fucking sucks at its own job / aim / ultimate purpose / one concrete goal that motivates all its actions.
can't maintain control over its subjects
okay, so, the hive wants uniformity. it wants everyone to be dancing to the beat of its own tune. right? yeah. shame it literally can't keep its own possessed subjects in line at all. at the risk of sounding like the 10th doctor waxing lyrical abt humanity for the 50th time, humans are really difficult to control cause we're not really motivated by an altruistic allegiance to one primary good. we've got icky emotions that often move us to do stupid unpredictable stuff way more. it makes me wonder if the reason the hive wanted to use musical theatre to try and persuade ppl was cause it seems to think that is how theyll get emotive humans; through emotive songs. anyways. let's look at some examples shall weeeee?
Mr Davidson:
so, Mr Davidson. funnily enough, he's the guy whose in part acting as the hive trying to figure out what it wants through his interactions w/ Paul. every person it possess gives it just a bit more humanity and curiosity abt the world it is currently taking over. at least I think so. hence why as the musical develops u get character's like possessed!Alice wondering 'why does it hurt to love?' - the change in music and mood to something much more introspective really suggests to me that the hive is beginning to question the thoughts and emotions of its human hosts.
Mr Davidson is a family man through and through, he loves his wife Carol. she's his muse, his source of light. his feelings for her are not concrete or easy to explain and solve - hence why his sudden ahem demand of her is so hilarious and also jarring. it completely clashes with the 'I want song' which is simple, and often pushes forward a wider cause. not so with Mr Davidson, he just really loves his wife man. enough to break a frickin alien possession.
tbh I think its hilarious that (at least to me) the hive has to force him to forget and continue with the song, like, he straight up is just talking to his wife in that phone call, talking, not singing. so, no possession until he reverts back into song. ergo, the hive cannot maintain the uniformity it wants. even from the get go when theoretically its control should be stronger cause it has less ppl to co-ordinate. bad. at. its. job.
Paul:
this one hurts folks. yes, I know it's generally agreed, though somewhat debated that the state of Paul by the end of the tgwdlm is not purely possessed. I agree. once again, the hive is unable to truly enforce uniformity.
at this point, the motives of Paul and the hive are kinda just mixed, neither fully human nor fully alien. hence the constant shifts between pleeing for her to get away, to hide, to stay safe: 'what if the only choice is you have to sing to survive' and just full on old style hive nastiness 'let me puke in your mouth and just open your food bin girl' (so romantic 🥰 /j).
the hive has gone away from its original aim, and become something... different. no longer stuck to just one type of genre or style of song, it's really clever to show the developing complexity of the hive by showing how it is now juggling lots of different motifs with references to all the old songs from before recontextualised in a new way - its learning. evil baby... no longer uniform.
general miscommunication:
there are several instances of the hive not fully having uniform control over its subjects. for instance, right after not your seed with the three teens having to like... calibrate. they aren't just completely connected then?? also, this is a very small thing, but uhhhh at the end of inevitable when Paul is about to say the apotheosis is upon... the chorus interrupts him with USSSSSSS. interruptions??? not very in sync of u hive.
I think this inability to exert uniformity is also shown in the contrast between genre of musical theatre. my alien abomination cannot decide whether it wants to be the more modern edgy rock musical (join us (and die), not your seed ) or super happy go lucky old style musical theatre (lah dee dah dah day, and inevitable). it tries to do both, even while trying to encourage union, and sticking to one thing. hypocrite!!!!!
2. aims are guided by the people it possess
so, I mentioned this a bit already, but the hive isn't only mutating the humans, the humans are mutating the hive right back. this is more an interesting observation than any actual analysis but let's goooo.
greenpeace girl:
I think it's very likely that greenpeace girl is one of the first to be possessed. This is probably easily debunkable but whatever this analysis is flying by the seat or its pants anywayyyyy. why? cause where else would it pick up that whole 'this planet needs fixing' thing? it's interesting too, cause it morphs from expressing the desire to join hands and sing together, unity and peace with no actual action behind it. this then goes right to the other end, with the hive going 'fine I'll do it myself' and trying to save things by enforcing a dictatorship on the world. it develops and changes, and strays from its original means of accomplishing its aims! speaking oooooof...
3. inconsistent in means of accomplishing aims
okay, ur an evil hive mind. u think musicals are the way to win over these silly humans cause they're all weak and emotive and seem to respond to them. but, wait! schwoopsie! you haven't realised that for emotional depth and growth to mean anything, you need there to be established development and well... growth. otherwise the sentiments are as vague as the ones expressed in What Do You Want, Paul?
this show has genuine emotional moments, just not really during the musical numbers WITH EXCEPTIONS. any strife is smoothed over quickly, and so the development and change that would have to go into such growth is just gone. (see, You Tied Up My Heart) all so it can achieve its own desire to grow and grow and grow, maybe a metaphor for art being killed under late stage capitalism??
what actually matters is the impact the songs have afterwards, in causing a death - because we have a bond and care abt these characters. those short scenes between Paul and Emma are actually way more resonant than any song. except... inevitable, and also not your seed a bit. at this point the hive has learnt a thing or two, and can actually twist human emotion a little. but for it to do that, it has to reject the uniformity it prizes, and be adaptable. point towards being more human than it first thought? methinks so. and yet it's just not enough...
it's also why let it out, to me, feels really ingenuine. Paul has expressed himself in much better ways already. what they're doing is clearly paining him, and hurting the guy. he's terrified bless.
you can't force someone into being emotional vulnerable, man.
it's why all the deaths for the characters who are forced to express themselves are really violent, involving them being ripped open - literally forcing them to expose themselves from the 'inside out' as Alice reflects in Not Your Seed. you can't force genuine emotional connection, it has to be fostered, shown in the much more affecting relationship of Paul and Emma. the only reason the hive actually has power over our characters is because of these genuine emotional connections, which it tries and often fails to take advantage of, resulting in just resorting to brute violence. messy hive, very messy.
at the core, the musical's a kinda attack on that toxic positivity mindst: trying to force people to reach the sort of easy solutions by sharing feelings in a way that feels pretty invasive and deciding you are instantly fixed. the problems these characters face are jarringly not really what you'd expect a character in a musical to face, cheating, a lot of it, mid-life crisis. problems that are bland, or wayyyy too real. this is purposefully done, to reveal just how silly the hive's aim to use musical theatre to solve everyone's problem is. life is more complex than that smh.
4. a human can write a much more expressive, and genuine song than they ever could lol
u know which song I'm talking abt. what more is there to say. so much for making persuasive songs to tempt people over.
5. make me sad cause they took some perfectly nice ppl and funked them up 😭
this was a stupid point lol. basically I'm just bitter that this hive took a bunch of perfectly okay ppl and gave them hive brain. screw u hive. I swear I'm gonna watch Black Friday soon, cause I'm sure it's gonna completely destroy every thought I've had so far, but whateve,,, just take this as a look at tgwdlm like it's a stand-alone piece.
these guys are supposed to all be 'individuals' on one level, but also 'appendages of a much larger organism'. there's a little too much individualism and fracturing to be cohesive enough to do that I feel. the hive to me is not an infallible, unstoppable force, in fact, every human it takes over only brings it closer to understanding us. so that's maybe a slight positive note??? idk ?! I just have lots of thoughts and feelings abt this musical even if this doesn't make sense I'm proud i wrote it down hehe.
#tgwdlm#the guy who didn't like musicals#the hive tgwdlm#cw: swearing#sorry i swear a lot when im passionate lmfaoooo#more a reason to attack the shet out of the hive for ruining a perfectly ok town#paul matthews#speculation#my hcs#this is like#part joke part serious analysis#long post#im so sorry#emetophobia warning (its referenced a bit)#this might make literally no sense im so sorry#i have too amny thouvjfs#i have too many thoughts#head full all thoughts#my gifs#gifset
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Reasons why i hate mikaela hyakuya
@gurensangel @chaoticgaymess sorry i know you wanted me to repost your post but its easier just starting my own and making my own hashtag so incase anyone else asks me about this i can just look for the hashtag and send them this
Mikaela is honestly one of those characters i desperately and i mean desperatly tried to love i mean his kid self was so so easy to love and want to protect and hell i cried a shit ton for him and his past his problems everything but the reality is mikaela is a toxic person and here im going to be explaining everything as clearly as i can though im sure that everyone has heard most of these arguments i also have some most people wouldnt even consider
Why is mikaela toxic? Well simply said when you have one person and only one then its obviously going to be an underlying mental health issue now you could say other characters are similar to mikaela within that regard like every other vampire but heres the thing we dont get to see much of the other vampires so im more or less apathetic to those vampires and their actions however in accordance to mikaela we have watched his actions since day one and his chemistry with the rest of the cast of owari no seraph what grinds my gears isnt the fact that mikaela acts with violence and distrust towards everyone but the actions that the rest of the cast have taken towards mikaela and his inability to react differently towards those same exact characters aka shinoa squad
Shinoa squad has never once treated mikaela with prejiduce with agendas or anything of ill will since day one the fact that shinoa basically is the cause of death of many of her comrads during the nagoya arc where mikaela attacks the jida troop (and yes it is a troop considering that after reading pannel after pannel theres upwards to 20 soldiers who the majority of which are equiped with standard blades unlike the protagonists you know basically cannon fodder) but my problem is the fact that in that chapter shinoa instigated their betrayal to save mikaela from the rest of the troops shinoa's life was threatned straight after acknowledging that this could be the last she ever layed eyes on yuichiro by letting mikaela escape with him first threatened by a random soldier and then right after rika inoue and by her superior narumi makoto and shinoa the fucking chad she is just took all the punishment because she knows damn well that it is her fault her comrads died because of her distraction to allow mikaela to escape eating away the precious time guren baught his soldiers to run away and escape and how does mikaela respond? He tells yuu to abandon them it doesnt take a genius to say that betrayal especially to the hiragi family is met with death even if mikaela doesnt understand the rules and regulations of human law i doubt vampire law is much different meaning he knows damn well shinoa could lose her life for betraying the army for his sake and not just shinoa but her entire squad
I already know what youll say "but but mikas a vampire he has no emotions" bullshit absolute pure fucking bullshit of an argument considering the fact yoichis mention of the word family/freinds was cause for pause for mikaela and not just mikaela look at ferid look at crowley theyre all so vibrant and brimming with personality and emotion and i am damn well sure no one disagrees this could just be kagami's writing and forgetting about this plotpoint
The fact that despite this mikaela is a manipulative fucker we all know yuu is a dumbass no one can deny this the fact that mikaela is willing to point his sword towards yuichiro and threaten him his so called beloved speaks volumes about mikaelas ego his straight up ego thinking that he's the only one that could be right after all mikaelas the wisest of the bunch right i mean after all everyone of his other decisions was followed through with outstanding results anyone? Anyone? Thats right not once has the squad or especially yuichiro listend to mikaela and do to that fact everyone is alive and kicking examples? (This is also an example of manipulative mika) Mika: Yuu abandon shinoa because if she's as great as you say us sticking around will only cause her trouble you cannot tell me that isnt mikaela trying to twist yuu's feelings for his family to abandon them because had they listened to mikaela shinoa would have been impaled by the chains kureto produced to awaken the seraph of the end
And almost right after that same situation upon mahiru injuring yuu awakening abadon mikaela high tails and runs away carrying yuu and we actually see a pannel of shinoa squad scrambling for saftey straight up abandoning them again and going so far as to yell that he is yuu's only family despite all the other shit
Alright so lets play into the whole mika doesnt have feelings dont you think that having no feelings would make your sense of judgement all the better? And if so with all the evidence and actions of shinoa squad why in Gods blue earth would he basically act like an actual dick towards shinoa who saved his life risked her life for him as if shinoa is the sole reason yuu is in the prediciment of being possessed by yuu?? Isnt that the least bit infuriating??
On next of we shouldnt listen to mikaela in the same arc again mikaela suggests lets leave shinoa squad to face off against crowley AND FERID with this bullshit of "theyre after us theyll just ignore them" i mean are you kidding me? Ferid the man youve been with for 5 years is going to not have the time of his life killing a bunch of teenagers for the simple fact that if yuu is running away and leaving them.they must not be important to him therefore easy pickings for him
Lets not trust guren after all he's just using you he doesnt care the man loves that boy like as if he was his son and you can argue against me with this some time later but alright lets give mika the benifit of the doubt so obviously in mikas infinit wisdom his set course of action is killing him infront of yuichiro??? Really??? In front of him?? Killing his father infront of yuu man that just speaks volumes about how mikaeala only cares about the feeling he gets with yuu rather than carring about yuu as a person
Imo mika cares about how yuu makes him feel rather than who yuichiro is what do i mean by this? Its simple mika doesnt give a damn what makes yuu happy hell mika would cage yuu up if it ment keeping him safe and alive but is that really living? Its cruelty if i adopt a dog feed it and give it water but never play with it and isolate it thats basically animal cruelty
Anyway back to mika trying to kill guren just right there yuu begs mika to stop and grabs his arm pulling him back and what does mika do? What does he do? He lops off yuu's arm the one that was holding mikaela back from attacking what makes this scene even worse is i had so much hope for mikaeala because the last battle they won mikaela said the thoight of losing his.comrads made him dizzy what happened to him not having feelings? I lived loved loved that statement i imagined uncle mika to yuus kids being the best man to yuus wedding begging to be the one to make the wedding cake so so so so so many au's based off those little words and right after removing yuu's limb from him kimizuki and yoichi step up for guren weapons drawn and mikaela threatens them?!?!?! I mean honestly how fucking hypocritical can you be how big is his fucking ego???
Ill end it with this point because i have work in the morning i Still have another 20 bullet points i want to add but im starting to think i have artheritistis in my hand because my fingers hurt so much but anyway my point being mikaelas character contradicts yui's in an unhealthy way while yuu's character trait is to run towards danger to be a hero mikas is to run from danger its basically a tug of war and the thing is the story so far has actually turned out well for the cast running into danger for yuu made the 6th angels trumpet to grow silent destroying all of the four horsemen monsters and letting humanity take a huge step towards rebuilding but had it been mika's way theyd have run right out of that building never to see it again my point is if someone pulls and runs towards something and another character ties a rope to them and runs the other direction that tension will cause nothing but problems instead of running forward with the protagonist in order to keep them safe and actually contribute into the success of the mission
Also like the hashtags say this is only part 1 because as i said i have to sleep and my hand is killing me i should have done this earlier when i had more energy in order to bring along all the sources like the chapter and page where you can find these exact moments along with photos of said arguments/bullet points
#owari no seraph#seraph of the end#yuichiro hyakuya#shinoa hiiragi#mikaela shindo#mikaela hyakuya#reasons i hate mikaeal hyakuya part 1
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so! ive come up with a sort of backstory/au for me and karkat!
how do we meet?? 🤔🤔🤔
karkat (p much just turned 8 sweeps old) got found by alternian government and shipped off to a research facility near earth where tests of dubious morality (at best) are done on trolls (burgandy-gold) mostly on psionics ect. earth might be taken over, but direct aggression is ruled out- theyll destroy themselves and the desired materials with nukes. covert surveillance is used instead.
karkat is assumed to be dead by the others, but sollux (probably) gets an encrypted message from an anonymous rebel who wants the help of the group (all their ancestors are important, not to mention the descendants of the signless the summoner and the empress all know eachother) and with some arguing and proof (records of karkat in the facility) eventually everyone agrees to join the rebels (part of the signless cult maybe). who is the anonymous messenger? tyzias! she and some other friendsim people helped/orchestrate the resistance (like mallek helping with the actual encryption lol)
the facility kidnaps humans and tests them to further their goal (or just to be evil alternia do be like that) and im one such victim. i am surprised to see actual trolls being real and not fictional, and am even more surprised to see karkat (the "subjects" are often kept together in one big room) im the first human introduced to the group, and the first karkat has seen. unlike pretty much all other known aliens, humans are very similar to trolls (much moreso than other known aliens) and takes them all (including karkat) by surprise. i recognize karkat and attempt to communicate, but we don't share a language. eventually i cut my palm on his claws (purposely) and say his name, showing that i know who he is and that we both have crimson blood. the scientists are so taken aback by my knowledge that i become indispensable - they can get another human, but not one with this knowledge (probably) and upon closer inspection by the scientists, the difference between my and karkats blood is indistinguishable from each other with the naked eye - they have the same hue and both also seem to use hemoglobin (other trolls do not)
me and karkat are kept close together by the researcher(s) both to figure out whats up with me and to make extraction of karkat more complicated. our notes by the main scientist are kept in the same section.
we end up getting closer and relying on each other, and when cuddling for warmth (or something along those lines) karkat realizes he has a crush on me (hes rlly flustered lol) and isn't sure which quadrant we fit- pale or red?? it bothers him a bit. at this point we both know a bit of each other's languages, but hes better at english due to general troll education helping them pick up languages well
the others hatch a plan: sollux/mallek will hack the cameras/system. when karkat and i are alone in the room nepeta will pretend to be a janitor (low enough for a job like that high enough to not be questioned, not to mention that i might recognize her and karkat definitely will) before picking us up. it goes pretty well, but something happens: karkat had some medical procedures done and, because he's one of a kind and thus needed to live, was given tons of drugs and is kinda high at this point.
nep comes and i recognize her (hat or sign?? idk) and me and karkat hide in a big laundry basket under a bunch of clothes. idk if something happens on the way out, but everyone comes out unscathed and the mission is a success: karkat and i are rescued! this doesn't mean everything is fine now: karkat and i went through a lot, and the others find "karkats weird alien quadmate" kinda strange, not to mention my strange knowledge about their world. idk where everything goes from here (especially revolutionwise) but my relationship with everyone else ends up pretty good!
thats pretty much everything I have about our backstory :)
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