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secretsofthewilde · 24 days
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Dark (2017) text posts 4/4
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ROUND 1: JUST SOME GUY DIVISION
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housefreak · 2 years
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hate this show so much what does the season 3 family tree mean by h g tannhaus adoptive grandfather to charlotte doppler with elisabeth doppler & noah parents of charlotte doppler, AND h g tannhaus father of marek father of charlotte tannhaus. at this point elisabeth being both charlotte's mother and daughter is a nonissue
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gellavonhamster · 3 years
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Dark + Tumblr text posts, 2/?
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theregoesreader · 4 years
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“Our thinking is shaped by dualism. Entrance, exit. Black, white. Good, evil. Everything appears as opposite pairs. But that’s wrong.”
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thedarkreichenbach · 4 years
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DARK : What did we missed, What Ifs and How it should've ended
S3 gave us everything, an ending to a beginning of the greatest time travel show to ever exist. While most of us were overjoyed with the climax, I personally thought it could've been better and here's how.
Human Triquetra Origin
Agnes should've been the daughter of Magnus and Franziska, thereby explaining her surname being Nielsen and closing the family branch with her instead of the couple being childless. It really did not contributed to the plot by her being Noah's sister.
This way it would've manifested as a human triquetra origin, the strongest symbolism ever - with Unknown, Agnes and Noah being the core progenitors of the family tree in Winden.
There should've been more backstory on these 3, especially Agnes and Unknown, how they met, their childhood, how did they became what they're now as adults. The creators did not do justice on the Unknowns after hyping up their characters so much. IMO the Adult Unknown should've been introduced way before in S2 maybe while having a philosophical conversation with Jonas or Martha or any of his relatives, in between his travels all while keeping his identity secret, which would've probably been a better pay off in the S3 opening scene, where he's accompanied by his young and old versions.
How did he turned out so dark like a psychopath ever since his childhood, how did he learnt how to kill, the knowledge of time travel and his opinions on Adam and rest of his family members, how his time travelling experiences made their way to his infamous personal Triquetra Diary, all these aspects seemed crucial to the plot besides him acting as a henchman to merely manipulate events by time travelling and following his predestined path.
The HOWs
The creators avoided the 'How' by always implying the question was 'When'. How did the time travel worked actually? What were the mechanisms of each of the time travelling devices, how do they differ, how does a person actually operates the devices to time travel to a specific time? I cannot fathom how and why did they left out such interesting concepts to explore and instead gave us random characters repeatedly telling each other about some apocalypse or drop of an ocean.
The splits in timelines
Every time during the final cycle due to the quantum entanglement, the timelines split. However, we are not shown if they converge. If they don't, we are not shown what happened to the timelines when Jonas and alt Martha die. Cause in one timeline/reality, Adam gets to kill young alt Martha in his world, and Eva gets to kill Jonas in her world via alt Martha 2 but in the other timeline/reality, maybe none of these things occur.
Predetermined path, Causality and Effect
Stranger Jonas knew that Adam existed in 1921 alongwith a fully operational Giant God Particle with electric Tesla control yet he only choose to follow (alt) Martha's letter given by Noah. If only Stranger Jonas had noted down what his previous iteration went through, he could've taken things into his own hands for once. Things would surely had been different in Adam's world had all versions of Jonas worked together, like alt Martha and The Unknowns in Eva's world.
If Adam had not cheated or manipulated his younger self into false pretences, young Jonas could've been on a different journey and might have formed a new quantum entanglement cycle from 2052 itself by travelling to 1921 and changing things.
The entire show runs on a really dark premise that even if humans were given choices to their decisions, they will still choose the exact same option infinite number of times, no matter what and thereby, turning free will into a mere illusion.
What Ifs
What if Unknown, Agnes and Noah had more than one child in their lifetime. Yeah obviously it would complicate the story further, but hey why not?
What if someone, preferably from Adam's world, maybe Noah, tried to kill the Unknowns at some point? Noah wanted answers and who could have it better than the Unknown. Most probably Noah would've ended up dying in this scenario.
What if Jonas did not choose to go to 2019 to prevent Michael's suicide? Maybe Michael would've still been alive.
What if Jonas had a child with his Martha? The Unknown would definitely be uncompromising and uncomfortable with a sibling.
What if the Unknowns had followed Jonas and alt Martha into the Origin World? It would've been thrilling to know how this would've turned out.
What if young Ulrich goes missing instead of Mads in Eva's world? I wonder how the change in genes, story and plotline could've worked out.
What if instead of Jonas dying in Eva's world, it's alt Martha who dies in front of Jonas? This would've played out pretty dark IMO with this Jonas having witnessed the deaths of both the Marthas. And having knowledge of the family tree from Eva's room, he sets out on his own journey to slaughter everyone who he believes is the cause of death of both Marthas making it the darkest timeline and quantum entanglement.
What if most of the incest driven family branch were to be non-incestuous?
What if instead of killing, people were imprisoned or seemingly sent somewhere out of the loop?
What if there was more than 1 ending to the show?
How It Should've Ended?
Baran and Jantje did a phenomenal job pulling this off with such grace, but maybe just maybe we could've gotten more than one ending.
Ending 1 : the original, won't wanna change that. It gave off an ever reflecting moral that living and dying infinitely in eternal time loops is damnation and the only way out of that is ceasing to exist, in death.
Ending 2 : After knowing about the Origin World via Claudia, Adam actually takes the entire Sic Mundus and maybe even all members of Erit Lux there to finally settle down and calling it a truce while playing with time.
This way Adam and Eva would've finally got to settle down with their son, Unknown with his little family of Agnes and Tronte, and Noah and Elizabeth would have got to see their Paradise. Everyone finally got out of the time loops and could choose to live their lives freely at last.
Ending 3 : Introducing the God Particle in the Origin World, maybe giving it to H. G. Tannhaus. This would've been a rather chaotic ending as compared to the previous peaceful one.
Tannhaus probably would have used it for good purposes though and could've researched it so thoroughly that he was able to make the process and formula to create the God Particles in a not so destructive way that requires the coherence of 2 alternate world's power plant disasters.
Maybe it would've given rise to new time loops and quantum entanglements, with respect to the other 2 worlds and this would've been proved to be a complex quantum puzzle to solve.
Ending 4 : Tannhaus actually operated his Quantum machine more times than we know, and has in fact created more than 2 worlds by multiple splits. Totally mind boggling.
Ending 5 : So far we know that based on intelligence levels,
Noah<Adam<Eva~Unknown<Claudia
But what if the Unknowns finally strayed a little from their obedience to Eva and started working with Noah, Tannhaus or Claudia OR maybe even with Tannhaus and Claudia from the Origin World. This way the Unknowns would've diverted from their predetermined path and started to think by themselves.
This would've been fun to follow as it would've put them directly in a sort of Mexican standoff with his parents. At this point, a sensible fanfiction about the Unknown wouldn't hurt.
Ending 6 : Exploring far future, maybe the farthest ever possible. We know the world doesn't completely ends after the 2020 apocalypse, not atleast Jonas's world and like a Futurama scenario, Jonas time travels to far future to find out answers and he finds a new descendant. Bonkers right?
Feel free to jot down your thoughts and theories or any other details I might've missed here.
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I edited another video of DARK.
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I edited another video of DARK: "the first appearance of each character in all their times". This may have spoiler. !!!! I hope u like it & Dont forget to suscribe and activated the bell so you can be notificated when i upload a new video :)
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artemis-de-la-lune · 3 years
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there are things out there that our little minds will never comprehend. – h. g. tannhaus (dark, netflix)
architectural structures in images: sun temple and sundial, odisha.
[images' source: i, ii, iii]
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idjit-winchester · 4 years
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Dark Fan Theories
[SPOILER ALERT]
So I watched 2 episodes of Dark Season 3, where I found out that Regina’s father is actually Tronte, who fathered her with Claudia. It has also been revealed that H. G. Tannhaus’s father devoted his life to time travel. In S02E07 The White Devil, a scene between Hannah (2020) and Egon (1954) in indicative of a to-be affair between the two. I believe there is a possibility that they had a child, who is a character that has already been introduced. My theories based on the aforementioned include the following:
1. Noah’s father is H. G. Tannhaus: Tannhaus is Charlotte’s grandfather. We know that her mother (and daughter) is Elizabeth, whose father is Peter Doppler. Thus, Charlotte’s maternal grandfather is Peter Doppler, her own husband. Thus, Tannhaus must be her paternal grandfather, or the father of Noah.
2. Tannhaus’s father is Noah: In S03E02, (or E01, I don’t remember) it is revealed that Tannhaus’s father devoted his life to time travel, making it highly likely that his father was a member of the Sic Mundus, which could’ve been Noah.
Assuming that Theory 1 is true, Tannhaus and Noah too are stuck in the infinite loop of fathering each other, just like Charlotte and Elizabeth are. Suppose Noah did father Tannhaus with Elizabeth, that makes Tannhaus both Charlotte’s grandfather and her sibling. It also makes him Elizabeth’s great-grandfather (her mother’s grandfather), father-in-law (Noah’s father) and son (with Noah). If you still don’t find this convoluted enough, please feel free to read further theories.
3. Hannah and Egon had Noah and Agnes: Only reason being that both their parents are unknown. Assuming this theory would however, mean to reject the theory of H. G. Tannhaus being Noah’s father, which yet again puts a huge-ass question mark on how he could be Charlotte’s grandfather. Perhaps Hannah and Egon had Agnes, not Noah (meaning that Agnes and Noah are either couzins or step-siblings, which is something I frankly don’t remember being disclosed)
It is also possible that Agnes gets the last name Nielsen (assuming that Nielsen WAS her maiden name) from Hannah, who introduces herself to Egon as Katharina Nielsen.
4. Hannah and Egon had Boris Niewald: This is a possibility because, a. the backstory of Boris Niewald (impersonating Aleksander Kohler) is a mystery, and he is most probably a time traveler, more likely to be from the past than the future and b. the only thing I expect from the series anymore is for it to get a lot more convoluted and have connections between the randomest of characters.
We know for a fact that Regina was fathered by Tronte, thus Ulrich would be her step-brother. As we already established that Hannah is technically Ulrich’s daughter in law (as Mikkel = Michael), it can be concluded that Regina married her step-brother’s (Ulrich’s) daughter in law’s (Hannah’s) son, who is also her mother’s (Claudia’s) step-brother, her step-uncle, if this theory really is true.
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swagandsass · 4 years
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Dark
THE END IS THE BEGINNING AND THE BEGINNING IS THE END
In a small town of Winden weird things starts to happen after the death of Michael Kahnwald. His son Jonas Kahnwald who turns to therapy after the incident finds out some dark secrets about the town.
The story revolves around four families who are Kahnwald, Nielson, Doppler and Tiedemann, who are connected to one other in a weird way. After the disappearance of Mikkel Nielson, Jonas goes on a search mission on him. This is where he discovers that he could travel in time through the cave which is connected to the power plant of the town.
The interesting part of this story is we come face to face with various characters who are revealed to be one individual. For instance, we see three variations of Jonas (The Stranger and Adam) and Martha (older Martha and Eva) who are main leads of the series. Characters like Noah and Claudia brings in suspense factor along with giving the audience the knowledge of the family history.
Initially the time travel too place in three eras which are 1954, 1987 and 2020 but later 2053 which was stated as apocalypse world and 1921 were also introduced. Along with this we find out there is another universe in existence which is Eva’s world. Adam’s world which follows Sic Mundus which is dark, Eva’s world follows Erit Lux which is light. Introduction of another character in three versions is again made who is known as The Unknow who is Adam and Eva’s son and acts as a knot between two worlds.
The prime story of world 3 takes place in the years 2019 and 2052 which is also referred as apocalypse world. Along with this storyline in 1888 is also shown to the audience.
It is revealed that the original time machine was made by H. G. Tannhaus after the death of his son, daughter in law and granddaughter. Building of this time machine lead the world to split into two parts and the original world was divided in two.
Jonas and Martha, with the help of Claudia figures out in order to stop the apocalypse to happen in both worlds they need to save Tannhaus’s family and stop him from making the time machine to bring them back. By doing so the two of them are able to break the knot and the world is never torn in two parts.
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atimefordragons · 4 years
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Der anfang ist das ende und das ende ist der anfang || GW
☾♔; July 5, 2020 ☾♔; 10:44am ☾♔; sotd: idk ☾♔; cotd: Elsa   ☾♔; GW: Fast Forward ☾♔; Some kind of art set
𝐓𝐢𝐭𝐥𝐞: German for "The beginning is the end, and the end is the beginning"
This started out a group doll set for all my EHS oc's, but then halfway through I got the idea to make Sauvageon Slott and the merpeople colony in Lake Mälaren, which isn't directly under Sauvageon Slott, but whatever. I don't know what I accomplished with this set, but whatever. I've been stuck catching up on the work I let pile up on Friday 'cause I've been unwell and there's just more stuff added every other hour. //sigh// adulting is the worst. H G Tannhaus, hmu and gimme that time machine my dude.
The dolls, if you can call them that, are super lazy. Some are just straight up pngs, and not ones edited by me. Above water, we got Lili and Vig on the bench, and on the swings we have Arthur and Svea, and underwater we have Aeren and Anastasia, neither of whom are Vig's kids and thus part-merperson. Lol. I got tired. I haven't slept in 24 hours.
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Eine Reise Durch Die Zeit: A Journey Through Time;
H. G. Tannhaus. 
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Somewhere in season 2 Dark made a turn from sci-fi drama to pure existential horror and I was excited that it would continue this trend in season 3. Instead it turned into that one SNL sketch where they all shoot each other and "Watcha Say" plays.
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housefreak · 2 years
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do you ever think abt how charlotte doppler was a direct manifestation of h g tannhaus's grief from his granddaughter, charlotte tannhaus, never being found. so much grief that she was willed into existence, an orphan and yet her own daughter her mother. someone constantly sent to the past to the point her origin no longer existed, if it ever had in the first place
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cinestesias · 4 years
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Dark (3ª Temporada) [2020]
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Esta aqui, para alguns, não parece ter dado muito certo. DARK chega a sua conclusão numa terceira temporada que divide opiniões. Há quem diga que tudo se encerra de maneira realmente esplêndida, e quem tenha se cansado da quantidade de reviravoltas e mudanças um pouco... drásticas na trama e no destino dos personagens... A verdade é que aqui, na terceira instalação de DARK, ainda dirigida e produzida pela mesma equipe, há a adição de elementos não antes vistos, e que, mais uma vez, alteram todo o curso da coisa. Se antes já estava complicado seguir e compreender todas as linhas temporais de pessoas que iam e voltavam no tempo, umas ficando no passado, outras avançando e vivendo somente no futuro, e etc, agora, realmente, a coisa dá uma guinada inesperada e que passa a ser utilizada a todo momento... A centralização da trama em determinado romance, por quase todos os episódios, marca demais e se torna um tanto quanto previsível, e o elemento da profecia auto-realizadora se repete tantas vezes, que acaba cansando parte do público, que tão avidamente consumiu as temporadas anteriores. Tal cansaço é perceptível mesmo no mais dedicado espectador, sobretudo depois de horas assistindo aos intricados episódios desta última instalação. Contudo, para o que é, e o que representa para a Alemanha, DARK se despede como uma produção incrível, e que merece, sim, uma chance de todo mundo. É certo de que não agradará a todas as pessoas da mesma forma, mas é, definitivamente, um marco cultural para o povo alemão e, sendo bastante sincero, um marco ainda mais importante para a Netflix, que poucas vezes apresentou, desde o seu início, produções com este nível de complexidade e riqueza para o seu público. Assistam!
“H. G. Tannhaus: E se tudo que veio do passado foi influenciado pelo futuro?” Nota: 8,0.
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farofageek · 4 years
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DARK 3 | Família TANNHAUS explicada com ÁRVORE GENEALÓGICA!
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