#guys i had to google what a yaoi was

[ver-slxt]

yeah, your toxic yaoi ship is cool…

BUT

have you shipped the OG?

they fuck

HARD

[piosplayhouse]

Read some genuine and serious published and peer reviewed yaoi research the other day that was interesting but that I had a few criticisms of due to its position that yaoi is desirous to assumedly heterosexual women particularly because it presents an unattainable fantasy of sex that has zero risk or intent to reproduce. However while I understand where this is coming from I'm calling BS because what about the massive amounts of mpreg and omegaverse??

Because of this I am curious if any of you would be interested in a completely nonacademic informal survey on if/why mpreg/reproductive yaoi (technicality in that the guy doesn't actually have to get pregnant just have the capability to ig) interests you on a self-reflective level. Beyond because it's hot to get guys pregnant we know that already but if you have anything to extrapolate on the psychology of it I would be fascinated to know. Anyway I would probably make an anonymous Google form with a few free response questions for you all to type your deep thoughts on reproductive-centered yaoi if you would be interested-- there would probably be no crunchy data and I won't share anyone's answers unless they specifically want them to be shared. I'm just genuinely curious and would like to hear a variety of perspectives from a variety of backgrounds : )

[peachglumpear]

twitlonger doesn't work anymore so i've decided to compile my thoughts on tumblr.

there are two reasons why tvskyle being arrested for csem enrages me aside from the obvious of the matter.

tvskyle was a known predator for years. if you google his name and "callout" there are troves of information about his harassment and predation to women. back when i had a professional art account despite that i was not an animator or heavily in animation circles this was public knowledge even to me.

2. this is what happens when people refuse to acknowledge predators can and will co-opt GOOD GUY / BAD GUY language to infiltrate and stay in circles.

anyways, that is the short version. this is the long version where i get into topics regarding abuse and harm that may be triggering.

first off, let's get over how using the word "paraphile/paraphilia" has become fearmongering and taking the words away from what they actually mean. "paraphilia", at its most base level definition means "a paraphilia is an experience of recurring or intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, places, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals."

if you like BDSM, you're a paraphile. if you like bondage, you're a paraphile. if you like pregnancy, you're a paraphile. if you like fictional brothers kissing, you're a paraphile.

considering the DSM used to characterize homosexuality as a mental illness until 1973 (51 years ago, not that long in hindsight!) if you are not a cisheterosexual white man and like anything that is not cisheterosexual sex intended for the sole purpose of procreation with the intent to create children, you have a paraphilia.

paraphilia/paraphile in both proclaimed 'anti' and 'proship' spaces is becoming the new 'pedo', which is really just BAD PERSON. do not interact with me if you are a BAD PERSON who does BAD THINGS. BAD PEOPLE get away.

the reason why i do not have any disclaimers about "antis/pedos/zoos/etc dni" in my bio is because to me this is the same thing as saying "serial killers dni" ...i don't mean to sound snarky, this is just what it boils down to. if a person is out there harming someone, human or animal:

i do not know why they would proclaim this information publicly.

if someone is harming real beings, i do not think they would respect text on a screen if that very prominent line in the sand has already been passed.

tvskyle fits the mold for animation dudebro who was established in the industry of his choice despite the open knowledge of his predatory behavior. i cannot testify to if anyone knew he was possessing csem before he was officially arrested, but it was definitely open knowledge that he was the kind of man you wouldn't want left alone with female coworkers. some of this behavior was bad enough that even male coworkers would avoid him.

tvskyle also coopted proship/anti terminology.

this isn't me knocking on someone for their age, but when i first saw tvskyle posting about of all things, invader zim yaoi, my first thought was "why in the world would a 45 year old man who is an industry professional be so obsessed with arguing online about cartoon smut."

i guess you can argue about stupid things on the internet at any age at any level of industry success. but it was bizarre to me because it's not as though cartoon smut of any problematic variety should be news to someone working in animation in their 40s. The animators on the original Beetlejuice made jokes that BJ's fingertips were red from fingering Lydia on her period. The rugrats storyboarders drew horny jokes. There's infamous posts about animators finding the secret smut vaults for their shows. Cartoon smut has basically existed as long as cartoons have existed.

and then you find out tvskyle also drew pokemon porn that involved may (age 12), brock (age 15) and max (may's younger brother, age 8.)

wow, kyle! a threeway between a 12 year old and her 8 year old brother! that seems pretty problematic! incest and shota combo!

but i guess that's not an issue. it's not problematic when i draw it because i'm not a BAD PERSON.

tvskyle became weirdly obsessed with calling people out for cartoon smut despite that he drew smut you could categorize just as problematic in nature. and then he was found possessing some of the worst csem you can be found possessing. and he was found possessing over *600 images* of csem. that isn't something you gather overnight.

so there is the uncomfortable truth of the matter that predators can and will co-opt terminology to blend into any space. and this can happen anywhere. if someone wants to get under the radar in anti circles, they will rave about how bad cartoon smut is. if someone wants to get under the radar in proship spheres, they will adapt and use the appropriate terminology for that sphere.

and this is why to a whole, i find it incredibly reductive to use terms that reduce people into bad person / good person because at its most harmful, all it does is protect people who are continuing and perpetuating harm to real people.

i think everyone needs to acknowledge their capacity to harm as much as their capacity to heal. and before you think "wow peach that is a really wide assumption i would NEVER hurt someone like [x]" yes, i know, imaginary stranger in my head, this is not what i am saying.

what i mean when i say we all need to acknowledge our capacity to harm is because i believe the choice to be a good person or a bad person is a choice you make every day. if i am a "good person" my whole life and then one day...i don't know. i steal money from a homeless person, or i throw a drink made wrong in an overworked barista's face. all of the "good things" i have done would not cancel out that in those theoretical moments, i was not a good person. in fact, in these hypothetical scenarios, i was very nasty.

there have been days where i've had to be the friend who sits another friend down and talks with them about how something they said or did really hurt me. and likewise, sometimes i've had to come face to face with when i wasn't the good friend. it hurts both ways but let's be honest, someone hurting you doesn't come with the same fearful sting of "i hurt my friend. do they think i'm a BAD PERSON. am i the BAD PERSON now?"

and none of these conversations would have been productive or involved growth or greater understanding if they had come from the angle of YOU, a BAD PERSON, hurt ME, a GOOD PERSON. (on either end.)

i think acknowledging your capacity to harm simply means acknowledging you're human. you won't always be right. you will mess up and that's simply a part of the human experience. but being able to take accountability and examine when your actions have caused harm will be more beneficial to yourself and your loved ones in the long run.

the person who groomed me would not admit they had groomed and exploited a minor because in their mind, they are not a BAD PERSON.

the person who abused me would never admit to these things because in their mind, they are not a BAD PERSON.

to be a BAD PERSON is to lose everything because being a BAD PERSON is not to be any person at all.

of course these people never took responsibility for the harm caused to me.

only BAD PEOPLE do BAD THINGS.

the uncomfortable truth is there is no way to ping with 1000% accuracy someone intent on predation and harm. there are predators in white vans lurking outside of high schools, but the predators were also the charming and well spoken teachers who were very popular with coworkers, parents and their students. some people are simply better at adapting and blending in the system they want to exploit than others.

i think tvskyle fell somewhere in the middle. other inappropriate behavior of his was well known, but this wasn't enough for him to be blacklisted. as we all know, sexually harassing women is not a firable offense. for people missing the 50's, feel assured some thing have not changed. (<- very biting sarcasm.)

tvskyle is definitely not the last predator in animation, but what do you expect from circles that are essentially glorified high school cliques that only require ego stroking and circlejerking.

tvskyle may have been the most recent predator found, but he is definitely not the only one and anyone acting otherwise is just leaving the door open for these people to continue perpetuating harm.

[victimsofyaoipoll]

Round 2

Propaganda Under Cut

Gwen Cooper

she literally did nothing worse than the rest of the team yet so many people hate her guts and there is a literal gwen bashing tag for her on ao3. just cause she's a complicated character and confident and assertive and oh yeah she had sexual tension with jack harkness who ended up w ianto in the end. god forbid.

fans think she "gets in the way" of the canon m/m pairing of the series just because she has straightbait scenes with one of the two guys. when in reality she literally has a husband and has been nothing but supportive of her friends and their relationship 😭 she tends to be written as like super insensitive and spoiled and its unbearable 

An amazing, badass woman who has a complicated relationship with Jack Harkness, 1/2 of “Janto,” the ship she “gets in the way of.” People use this slight complication to decide they HATE HER and turn her into this vile, evil, vindictive person. She often tries killing Ianto (other half of “Janto”) in many poorly-written fics, simply so that everyone can realise how badly they treat poor, poor Ianto. This makes Jack fall harder in love with Ianto xoxo Mwuah Mwuah and Gwen is hated and killed. This occurrence is so common that it has its own tag on AO3: “Gwen Bashing.” The writing, again, is always very bad, and solely created to make people hate Gwen. She’s chill in the actual show though. Very supportive of the two men and their relationship, and is literally happily married. She is not at all like what people make her out to be.

Kairi

kairi is the third protagonist of the kingdom hearts series and the third member of the destiny trio, alongside fan favorites sora and riku. sora/riku shippers HATE kairi, and will go out of their way to discount her at every turn. the hate for her ranges from typical "she's a boring bitch" to fans of soriku making five-hour long video essays reassuring their fellow shippers that the big bad kairi won't show up in the next installment – to quote one video, "she's in a box. she's on the shelf. four walls, no door." kairi is the greatest bogeyman the soriku fandom has ever known, to the point where most of said video essays and fanon meta posts focus not on why sora and riku should get together, but rather on why they don't like kairi.

Literally has a 100+ page Google doc fan theory writing her out of the narrative and putting all of her (few) canonical accomplishments onto half of the popular m/m ship (soriku). Don't even get me started on how her memory was completely written out of the canon plot of re:coded. KH is a nightmare to explain so dude trust me she is THE victim of yaoi

She is so fundamental to the plot and themes and narratives of game and yet it is near impossible to find anything about her thats not ship bashing pre-mlm with the other two characters. I dont even care if she ends up with one of the main characters i just want fans to see her as a cool character to love or like, anything other than “annoying comphet girl.” You can write your mlm but pleaae stop inventing comphet where it doesnt exist. She does not even get to spend time with sora ever?? Why does everyone see her as a threat and a thing to destroy?? Let her have friends so help me

[vampireghostlawyer]

new confessional: up until maybe 2014, i thought south park was a semi serious russian tv show.

my parents didn't allow us to watch south park or really almost any tv shows tbh, and i was so scared of getting in trouble, that i very rarely (if ever) watched tv at friends' houses, in case something unapproved would come on. eventually, we stopped being able to afford cable and ended up not really having TV at all.

HOWEVER. i was active online, and i had many russian deviantart mutuals. and they were all obsessed with this show called south park. Every day, i'd log on and see more drawings of these anime twinks walking around russia, speaking russian, and fucking each other and having intense emotional moments. finally, i asked someone like, "what are these guys from?" and they were like "oh, south park, it's american i thought you'd know it."

so i googled south park, assuming it was just an american show about russia that russians really liked. and then i saw how it looked and was horrified. these spheres did NOT look like the anime boys i'd been led to believe theywere. 12 yr old me was disgusted. where was the yaoi ? where were the tender moments with a backdrop of russia? where was the beautiful art of my friends?

after that, i avoided south park like the plague until 2014, when i was on a date with a guy and he INSISTED that i watch like the one million american cartoons i'd never been allowed to watch (spongebob, family guy, american dad, etc.) and i was NOT enjoying them. So finally i was like "put on the one about the russian boys" and he was like ?? and so i clarified south park and he put it on and i was dumbfounded. not only were these children strange rotund creatures instead of anime bishie boys, but none of them were even gay. or russian. i was so shocked that i made him turn it off after like fifteen minutes and we went to dairy queen instead.

[singeryuri]

hihiii nikolai >_0 if ur still doing the s/i game how abt 🌩️✨📚 !! pick anyone u wanna dooo :3

referencing this ask game!

YAYYY thank you yves :3 I am indeed still accepting asks for it since I ♡ excuses to ramble muahaha >:3 decided to go with dmitrie and éloise for the first 2, but for 📚 I took into account all my s/is and wrote as much as I could think of atm! under the cut bc rambling wahoo ^_^

🌩️ ; Do any canon characters hate your S/I? Who's their worst enemy?

Dmitrie: He gets on Rikai's nerves sooo much it is so funny oh my goodness. With his obnoxious flirting towards Amahiko, and him trying to 'ship' the rest of the charismas he gets yelled at a lot (reasonably so bc what is this man's problem!1!1!1) for acting like a weirdo. I need to put them in a locked room with security cameras together and watch what happens..

Éloise: Her dislike of Mozus is mainly something that rubbed off on her from Divus, but it'd still definitely be there without him around. She considers him a pain to talk to for long and feels as though he's a strict, boring old guy. If she had to choose, she much prefers standing off to the side giggling as she watches Divus and him bicker.

✨ ; What are some of your S/Is favorite things, aside from your F/O?

Dmitrie: He eats UP badly written romance, could live off of a steady supply of YA fiction instead of food for about a month or two. He also has a bit of a sweet tooth, and enjoys cherry and strawberry flavored things. His favorite color is red, the color of love, but he's also a fan of pink and white, since they're other colors commonly associated with love. He also loves stuff with tacky heart motifs. Valentine's Day and the days leading up to it are like the "Objective: Survive" time of the year for his wallet.

Éloise: She loooves things with berries, especially blueberries! I imagine she always has some blueberry tea in her house because it's her favorite kind, and indulges on blueberry tarts once in a while when she needs to satisfy her sweet tooth. In terms of music, she likes classier stuff, usually listening to orchestral music while she works or relaxes. She wears a lot of green and works with nature, so me saying she likes it isn't anything special, but she also has a fondness for orange and I think she'd really like amber jewelry :] Anddd finally, one of her favorite flowers is a sunflower 🌻! I'd have to google a bunch of flowers to accurately list off what she likes since she probably knows ten times more types off hand than I do but those I do know about. So yay!

📚 ; Do you think any of your S/Is from different media would get along well?

Ohh absolutely!! Martha being the gothic girl she is would looove being around Rina, and be so curious about her whole.. haunted doll thing. I think Rina and Odette could also be doll friends and bond over doll things. Jarek and Dmitrie would at least get along decently because I think they'd be able to bond over The Longing™ together, but this is assuming Dmitrie doesn't start being really weird. As all the crsm characters are known to be. But even then I think Jarek wouldn't mind much like c'mon he's in love with King Yaoi III who knows maybe being Like That is just how Dmitrie copes with being in love with whoever this Amahiko guy is 🤷 Dorenia is a friendly fella so he'd generally be pretty ok with most of my other S/Is I think. Aven and them feel like they'd get along well but I think that's because they're some of the most Nikolai-truthful characters in terms of personality so I think that's just them being similar people,, Interesting question hehe this was really funny to think about!

[deviantartdramahub]

I am just going to say this, I DID say how old I was, but it was in a discord conversation and it wasn't Jasper who asked me it was Mrdrawinglover instead and I just said I was in my twenties, the only reason my Deviantart age has '40' was because I opted to keep it public for a long while and didn't bother to change it. While I do love transformation, I do not view it as a fetish nor do I get off to it, I call it an obsession, and while he is right, I do have a bit of a problem ignoring him...it is only because, you know, twitter and tumblr staff don't find posts about me made by him to be harrassment.

And yeah I did get overly obsessed when bern left, but only because I did not take it too well. That is most certainly true. In the document itself Jasper very much goes back and forth between callling my characters OCs and thinking they are actually me or represent 'traits' of mine, I never did that with any of his.  And to be honest I did not actually start obsessing over him, until as he mentioned after he blocked me, and I didn't know he did it at first. I had just done a list of things I don't like in transformation stories, 'weight gain where it's just a thin character being a slob' is one of them.  And well...when I googled his name and clicked on it, I was blocked. I thought nothing of it and then very much did exactly what he did, and well I couldn't exactly make up my mind on whether or not to feel apologetic or wanting to hate him, i'm indecisive, so what?  The fact I used to like the guy and used to like his character transformations and used to watch him, only to be told later on discord by awesomeisred that he is a jerk. Now I am just going to say this,  I am LGBTQ positive (came out as bi in 2020) and have nothing against same sex IRL relationships, just yaoi.

[moldsporr]

I’ll go ahead and do it.

Makoto Kagutsuchi. Tell me all your thoughts about our silly little goof.

You have unleashed the beast AAAARGH

I'm gonna follow the number prompts but. Be prepared. This is gonna be long.

Okay before I talk about my first impression, you all need to understand. I went into this game almost entirely blind. The only characters I had seen were Yuma and Shinigami (of course), along with the train detectives, Swank, and the NDA (except Yakou). I also skipped the intro. I had no idea that Makoto existed. So. Imagine. I'm playing the game, all concerned about the NDA, and I(Yuma) wake up in this fancy ass bed. Immediately, I think, "is this some wattpad fanfiction? I've been sold to Raincode BTS....". I walk out of the bedroom. The cutscene starts. This skinny, naked little twink with a funky ass mask takes up my screen, giggles, does a bow, and Immediately my heart is stolen. This funky little guy has taken the top spot of my favorites. And he just continues getting better. He's SO eccentric and SO silly. He's ominous and I've decided he is best boy. Then there's the rest of the middest chapter in the game, and I'm feeling bored, then he takes a good scene with Yomi and makes it EVEN BETTER. Teasing what I thought was the big bad, immediately making all the other characters tense- he just. Commanded everyone's attention, in and out of the game. It's very rare for a character to be able to do that, and he just... does it consistently.

I have so many headcanons guys. Can you believe it. Alfie having headcanons about Makoto. Anyways! I think part of the massive walk-in closet he definitely has is dedicated to masks. The masks on his page in the art book and countless others. He also bleaches his hair. Also, I've talked about this before, but I think he had a similar relationship with the previous CEO that Yuma has with Yakou. A mentor of sorts, but definitely not just a boss and his employee dynamic. Oh, and I think he's got cool fangs. What's the point of being a homunculus if you don't get cool animalistic features. Also he is schizospec. Why? Because he's just like me fr. He's got the schizoid dilemma built into him from the ground up

Legitimately I don't think I have any complaints about Makoto. Like. There was never any point where I wasn't absolutely invested in what he was doing and fawning over him. Okay well actually I do have one complaint. Why don't I get to have gumshoe gabs with him, huh? Let me interact more with him. Maybe Yuma was feverish and shit after Makoto rescued him, so he forgot about their interactions. Please. I need it.

MAKOYUMA RAHHHHHH. Okay sorry I'll be normal. Anyway, I really like makoyuma. Sue me. My very first ship was selfcest, I guess I'm returning to my roots. I shipped them from the very moment Makoto showed up because there was just... so much he was hinting at. Of course, my initial theory was that Yuma was a homunculus and Makoto was either number one or closely related to Number One. But it was clear to me that Yuma and Makoto had SOME sort of connection, and I was right. Chapter five made me jaw drop. DESPITE ME GETTING SPOILED FOR MAKOTOS FACE. thanks Google. I still didn't realize what it meant when I saw it while trying to find a picture of Makoto to send to my friend... so it still shocked me. Anyway, Makoyuma just... has so much to it. Whether you're focusing on fluff or angst or hell, even dead dove shit. They can do it all. They're so complicated and I love them for that. They're very close to my heart. Other Makoto ships I enjoy are Makoyomi and, woah rarepairs, makoto + vivia and makoto + desuhiko. Makoyomi is a looney toons ass toxic yaoi and I think makoto and vivia would have a very interesting dynamic (not necessarily romantic), especially since... Makoto orchestrated Yakou's death. And with Makoto and Desuhiko I just like the idea of these goofballs being wacky.

Overall opinion: I have. Not been this obsessed with a character since Kiibo Danganronpa and Scaramouche Genshin. You know hyperfixations? Its like that. But I'm not autistic so it's not a hyperfixation. And mine involves adopting him into my identity. Permanently. Makoto is exactly the type of character I like and I enjoy him immensely. Stan Makoto!!!!

[menstits]

I think the problem with all the Fontaine girls designs is that looking at them makes me feel like I googled "steampunk anime girl" in 2009. Also Folcalor is the most mid looking archon lmao

Honestly sorry ei is still the most mid archon to me like when they first leaked her in the mass inazuma leak a couple years ago i couldn't even guess she was the archon lmao while at least with focalors i can tell. Everyone else in fontaine so far is like ehh... Navia is mid I don't care about more blonde women, charlotte is kinda ugly, clorinde has me ripping my hair out about what could have been, focalors is like... Just ok. No huge issues but no especially interesting traits either. I wish they had given her some kind of insane Marie Antoinette-ish vibe honestly like if she had some huge poofy dress i would have been happier. As for the rest they showed in the trailer the jail warden guy looks like bait for people who draw anime men wearing dog muzzles and the little sea slug girl is like. Cute i guess she's just a little baby but ultimately both of them as a pair look like a cringe and pathetic attempt at riding kaeya and klee's coattails as the like... Military guy and little girl best friends/family duo. The judge unfortunately i sort of like him but that's just the yaoi fan in me speaking he's still ultimately just like. Oldest a genshin character is allowed to look before fans start getting scared. As for lyney lynette and freminet they're like . They look like freaks. And they're attracting the worst kind of audience. 👍

[skrunksthatwunk]

just read shin devilman and i'm about to be so annoying what the FUCK WAS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (both /pos and /neg but frankly /baffled. what the fuck. anyway thoughts below)

ok so i knew sd (i'm just gonna call it sd) was gonna be weird right. it has TOS style gratuitous funny time travel plots and TOS style homoeroticism it's like. it's mostly there to see ryo and akira hang out in a variety of Historical Events/Settings/Clothes and that's fine. in theory.

chapter one fucking. i. okay i had this foreboding sense right like oh... they're in vienna in 1913 and my first thought was "do i google when hitler was born + is this a "do we kill baby hitler" time travel theoretical??" and i was like no no he would've been older. anyway it's gotta be a coincidence right hitler's not going to be in this. and then we meet this painter. his name is adolf. oh god. he hates jewish people. oh no. but everybody was antisemetic back then it like,, it might be a hitler symptom but this could still be another unaffiliated adolf. oh but his hair's greasy. but he doesn't have the mustache so maybe it cancels out? and as it goes on im like seeing okay his jewish.. art dealer(?) is selling this portrait of his unrequited love to another jewish man and i'm like oh god Please don't do what i think you're going to do with this but also debating whether or not i want this to be hitler because on one hand it would be an awful narrative choice. like politics aside (we'll get there) it's just so goddamn tacky. but on the other hand my fear and increasing belief that go nagai is about to reveal this guy to be THE adolf hitler is building up pressure for a fit of hysterical laughter that i Know is likely coming. god it would be so baffling and so so funny and

i howled. is my point.

like i cannot express to you how fucking mind melting this was to me. for the next couple hours of reading i would just stop and (unprompted) whisper adolf..! adolf hitler...!! to myself like. god what a fucking. just look at it god i don't have to explain LOOK AT THIS SHIT. LOOK AT IT. he animorphs into evil older hitler. it's in Such poor taste and it has Such fucking. dumb implications. we'll get there.

what else. oh i love how nagai doesn't even bother with explaining them adjusting to places most of the time. next chapter BOOM they're in armor on a boat ready for battle. did they just pop out of the dimensional rift like that? in historically appropriate roles/clothing? that doesn't always happen though bc ryo has to get them clothes for versailles next chapter. but we meet them with the cheyenne and it looks like they've been there a while so. idk it's goofy to me. he really said i am not putting all that effort into a drabble.

pivot but i like how dumb yaoi-coded a lot of sd is. i read it for The Scene (the "akira im not into women i um. i. uh" scene) but it still kind of surprised me sometimes. i would be chastising myself for looking at akira diving overboard to save ryo (in full armor) bc it's not Really gay to save his best friend's life right and then that's Immediately followed by this

im fucking losing my mind. kyaa don't take off my armor (baka). what am i doing. what was HE doing writing this. etc.

^^i didn't even gather everything gay i saw because eventually it started feeling about as enlightening as pointing out the gay bits in a ryokira doujin. but those are some highlights i guess. you think they encountered homosexuality in the ancient grecian military? surely not...... unless..............? (also they're bound by fate..... look i know they're almost The most literal iteration of that dynamic but. i know what you are)

i love this bit. zero stakes. "yeah greece kinda ate shit" "lol exactly like--" "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WALK!!!!!!!!!"

what else what else. oh this panel was funny. only her left arm is being severed here so that right shoulder is supposed to connect to her back. somehow. spot the difference!

THEY GOT FLAT STANLEYED

another panel i liked. the h in dhevilman stands for head empty

this one too. the scan was actual shit so i kept not seeing the guns so this was Extra jarring to me

also look at these little blurbs at the end. iirc they only did those for the joan of arc and little bighorn stories and LOOK HOW DIFFERENT THEY ARE TONALLY

like the joan chapter is largely sweet? i guess? it's supposed to be a happy ending and it's like aww (though. i don't think joan would be like "an angel in the form of a demon... :)" but whatever) and then it's like Yeah Well She WAS Tried For Being A Witch. By Humans. And Was Burned Alive. it's super jarring and then the little bighorn one is like "sometimes they put this in movies!" as if we didn't just see people get massacred???

actually that brings me back to the hitler thing. i'm kinda new to devilman so take this with a grain of salt but part of what i appreciated about How devilman's apocalypse happens is that like.. demons weren't Really in control of humanity's governments or anything. they inspired paranoia that exacerbated preexisting prejudice and selfishness and led people to view the marginalized as the most dangerous For their past oppression, and humanity tore itself apart. and when there was a little compilation of the groups targeted in this, jewish people (specifically in the context of the holocaust) and native americans were both brought up, and i respected that as well. devilman takes place in our world, so discussing these atrocities and ongoing bigotries is like,, relevant and important for what it's trying to do, i feel. it wasn't focused on much, but it stuck out to me, and i think it shows a degree of care about those genocides on the part of nagai.

but i think mentioning them in passing and from a contemporary perspective was a bit safer. you have to be a lot more careful doing historical fiction/time travel misadventures about Very Real atrocities for your Very Unreal Fantasy Romp. and i think that because nagai feels moved by these atrocities and because they're kind of important to devilman and what it's saying about humanity, he felt it would fit to have them in a devilman story that includes time travel (or perhaps he was just inclined due to artistic preferences. either way). i think it also makes sense to explore, in theory. yet any time you insert your fantasy bullshit as a cause for/major factor in An Actual Irl Genocide/Etc you kind of trivialize it. not quite the same, but the closest other example i could think of was how motherfucker supreme jk row.ling took the witch burnings and was like haha that was witches playing pranks on stupid idiot muggles. they were laughing btw. real actual irl people were murdered!! i'm not saying you can never joke about it or mess with it but when you're treating them as serious events And Also going "well actually it was my Dumb Fantasy Thing that caused that" you like.. make it about your dumb fantasy thing instead. the dead are reduced to props.

ch 1's depiction of hitler was of one who already hated jewish people before watching his beloved be burned alive by a jewish(?) demon (a demon masquerading as a jewish person? yeah), but who decided to dedicate his life to jewish extermination Because of that event. and i think the decisions to have him hate jewish people before this AND to not make him a demon are good. this could've been worse. but it still kind of makes the holocaust about demons, y'know? hitler was a person, one influenced by the world in which he lived. countless surrounding factors led to his hatred of jewish people, his attraction to fascism, and his genocidal project. the same is true for everyone involved in perpetuating or tolerating the holocaust. there is no inciting incident, really, for that hatred existing. not for most people. devilman is fundamentally concerned with the nature of group hatred, fear, bigotry, and violence. i would argue they're within its central bundle of inextricable themes (no matter how many adaptations try to, y'know. extricate it). exploring historical instances of that makes sense. but disregarding all of that nuance in favor of "demons tricked him" is in bafflingly poor taste. it's one thing to place demons in a contemporary/future-set story manipulating governments and encouraging violence, but it's another to make the murders of millions of Actual Real Not-Props-For-Your-Spinoff people retroactively caused by demonic influences. because it kind of decreases the agency of the Actual Real murderers. in sd they were tormented, deceived, manipulated by higher forces. in reality they were manipulated, maybe, but by humans. the same is true for the little bighorn chapter. admittedly, i'm less familiar with this event, but it seems... vaguely accurate? to my memory? regardless, taking a massacre that was part of a genocidal effort spanning centuries and going "custer had demons in his heart >:(" is like. revolting to me! and i don't think it's even a like,, metaphorical demon in the hearts of him and his men because we see a very literal demon in marie antoinette's heart the chapter prior. i think it's supposed to be the same thing. symbolic, maybe, but in-story there is in fact a literal demonic possession causing this. as opposed to the propaganda, violence, willful ignorance, greed, callousness, etc which actually caused it. it's like.. anti-relevance. anti-poignance. even if the demons are symbolic of like. humanity's base instincts or whatever i still don't like it. it's stupid and it sucks. and you've got like. tiana getting raped. and because of the context she's a sort of stand-in for everyone who experienced sexual violence as part of this genocide. and it's got the go nagai depictions of sexual violence funk on it (i need to finish devilman lady but Oh Boy) so it's like yucky and that makes the depiction of the genocide broadly yucky because it's again a snapshot of an actual THING that HAPPENED to REAL PEOPLE and it still has the horny funk and. god am i making sense?? whatever it's like. bad to me. i'm not saying you can't like shin devilman or whatever but this part was gross and as hard as the hitler twist made me laugh it was simply not worth it. the toybox approach to historical fiction is Not Good when you start putting in real atrocities and real people, imo. you can't blame hitler's antisemitism on demons bc that primes people to dismiss others as Just Evil it encourages an ignorance that perpetuates genocide and also it's just kind of bad for your story's like.. social commentary. devilman feels like an indictment of humanity but sd almost feels like it's excusing humanity for the same actions bc of the retroactive thing. it's like devilman's demons weren't manipulating humans who independently had a pattern of mass violence for xyz reasons but instead were the secret cause of every cycle of mass violence humans did. it blows!! genuinely open to differing views on the fucking political commentary in shin devilman but idk i just uh. don't think it was good. as someone who's fresh off a first read.

idk. um. i thought shy ryo was interesting.

tbh it doesn't seem like,, in line with my image of ryo from the original series? but i kind of like it when characters are unexpectedly shy, so it's cute to me. i have to wonder when in the process of writing devilman nagai decided ryo was 1) in love with akira and 2) intersex (something ryo if not nagai himself explicitly ties into his interest in men), because the whole thing feels... different than devilman irt that dynamic. i mean, i've been talking about how gay sd is, but i genuinely think a lot of that comes from a desire to depict their relationship with those things in mind, both for the audience and (again, potentially) the author. making ryo more shy in like.. a kind of effeminate way? (idk man idk) feels like the sort of not-quite-retcon that'd stem from that.

actually i kind of liked his relationship with tiana, brief as it was, and what it highlighted about ryo. he blushes when he realizes she's into him, and while he sort of rebuffs her flirting, it's clear that he still cares about her. he's flustered by the situation because it puts him in an awkward spot, not being able to say why he's not interested (and who he's actually interested in). it's a less-discussed and honestly very relatable part of being gay and closeted that was like,, pleasantly surprising to see. hell yeah. and that bit about ryo being unable to kill animals where she says he has a gentle heart is so cute to me

they're friends!! :> and that rules. i think there's a tendency to depict queer characters who don't (and are unable to) reciprocate the feelings of a straight character as being cold to them. and i think it would be really easy to take this gay sort-of-villain in ryo and make him disregard tiana (or women broadly)'s feelings (the gay misogynist trope). but ryo is tiana's friend. her crush isn't going to change that, because the friendship is genuine and comes first, and i like that. and i think in the context of sd we're supposed to read ryo's feelings for akira as ultimately unrequited. he loves akira, and akira loves miki. but that's not why they're not friends in the end. i see ryo/tiana and ryo/akira as parallel relationships. that in a world where ryo confesses and akira doesn't reciprocate, they would still be friends (something especially powerful with a gay character, who're treated as if they perverted a perfectly normal friendship). it's kind of sweet and hopeful, even if you know their relationship's going to end for other reasons soon enough. and he cries when he sees her dead!! i know that feels like a no-brainer to have characters cry when they see people massacred (people who took care of them for weeks) but it's not a given!! and again it shows that he cared for her rather than being like pshuh. women. which again a lot of people inject into their gay guy characters. like i'm glad that one of the adjustments made to ryo's character Was Not That (phew) but instead something that kind of made him more similar to tiana, made him relate to her even though her crush made him feel a bit awkward. like. there's room for exploration there, with him projecting his own awkwardness onto akira and stuff. anyway. yeah i wish she was a more developed character bc she is very much a brown girl there to fall in love with a foreign stranger, highlight elements of his character, and then die horribly but that doesn't mean i don't like what was there, i guess, so much as what wasn't.

[22degreehalo]

So I'm back to watching Assassination Classroom but I had to put out some laundry earlier so I looked up to see if there were any Karma/Nagisa podcasts (there are two!) and I got to thinking about what a surreal setting that fandom is and how much I love that and that got me thinking about a thread on /r/Ao3 about writing fic where the characters have weird names and how I was bummed I only got to thread when it was many hours old (as usual) so I didn't bother to leave a comment but I just felt so strongly about calling the characters 'Black' and 'White' or, like, 'America' and 'Lithuania', because some writers like to use their 'human' names but it's so much more meaningful and interesting IMO when it really is The United States of America and The Republic of Lithuania locking tongues, and then I imagined a person from Lithuania being really startled to see their country referenced out of the blue 'cause maybe they're young or old but either way they're not really familiar with Hetalia, so then I had to mentally write out a whole long comment about how Lithuania is depicted in that fandom (to my memory; it's been a while) and why I ship America/Lithuania, and I'd have to share some fic because there are some REALLY good ones, and there are the Lithuania genfics ofc and the one puella_nerdii and mithrigil wrote, but then there was another that I reread a few years ago when my phone screen broke so I had to use my first smartphone for a couple of days and I found it saved tot he device (never transferred on) and was surprised to find it even better than I'd remembered, so then I had to try and look it up and by now I'm about to have a shower because it's hot today and I know the fic's on my tablet but I only have my phone with me and I'm just standing there naked in the bathroom for ten minutes scowling down as I repeatedly google "How does your garden grow?" and various combinations of 'livejournal' 'lithuania' 'fanfiction' 'usliet' 'rec list' and eventually I got to my tablet and found it but I guess I didn't include the author's name when I copied it to a word document??? So now I had to go look up my del.icio.us recs because thank god I'd sorted that all out earlier this year and even refound this exact fic (but didn't bookmark it to ao3 for some reason), and after all that I had to give it a re-read, didn't I? Since it took so long to track down and, like, I didn't want to accidentally rec a super offensive fic to this made-up Lithuanian redditor. 'cause when I thought about it, the idea of America being this really nice guy who makes Lithuania really happy probably wouldn't fly so well in 2024, huh?

but I did read it and

it's so....... fucking good ;_________;

I want to go to Lithuania... I lolvve that fucking country so stupidly much oh my god. so fucking cringe that Im getting this worked up over a dumb gay anime fanfiction about wacky ww2 yaoi fascists but here I am and it's' actually still probably one of my favourite fics ever tbh. unironically.

so uhhHHHHHHHH that's how my afternoon went and also please read 'How Does Your Garden Grow?' by zempasuchil 🙏🙏🙏

[growling]

I must ask, what are your thoughts on my three favourite characters from Bungou Stray Dogs: Kenji, Karma and Kyuusaku?

(YOU PROBABLY DON'T RECOGNISE THE LAST TWO NAMES, I CURSE YOU WITH "NEEDING TO GOOGLE THEM" MWAHAHAHAHAHA)

Anyway, I'm quite glad you enjoyed our silly little show.

hi anon :3 yeppp bsd did rewire my braincells... show of all time.........

season 2+ spoilers under the cut,

i think as it stands currently:

kenji: i like him a lot! especially after the s4-s5 arc. don't really have much to say about him though....... hope him and tetchou succeed in their jouno ventures then maybe kiss kiss fall in love

karma: if you read my posts where i watch bsd you know i liked that dude... you how much i wanted fydor x unnamed ginger hair guy yaoi. but what we got wasn't bad i guess....... i just want that critter to be happy. i saw somebody had an au where fyodor took him in to the DoA instead and he and sigma bonded over being the only normal people here. im taking that one for the collection too. some other guy also pointed out similiarities with karma and chuuya but i forgor, they can also kiss.

kyuusaku: insufficient data. who are you. i mean i know who they are it's just that we don't really..... know that much aside from no specified gender, child, traumatized, mind control powers. they're cute i guess! as cute as Q can get............ honestly im just waiting for more info since s2 ended like we were gonna learn something more about them (they were pretty major but at the same time, we don't really know much) and then like 3 more seasons passed and i got no idea where they are. season 6 give us some kyuusaku, kajii, gin and the guild in general crumbs please

[fantasiallamarcia]

tagged by @whamss and didn't see it until just now, sorry bud.

Last song: i've had land of eikons on loop periodically throughout the past week and today's one of those days. fucking love ff16. can they please put the rest of the soundtrack on spotify so i can add it to my ff songs that fuck playlist. i also have wanderlust on more often than not lately bc ff15. yeah. you feel me. also yoko shimomura is just that bitch of video game soundtracks imo.

Favourite colour: pastel blue or that specific shade of glowing purple they always use for nightmare/orpheus in idv.

Last movie/show: watched treasure planet with my sisters a week-ish ago and surprisingly liked it? wish they hadn't made jim into a disney prince at the end. killed the vibe for me. show was the confession killer on netflix, mom and i have been getting into watching weird true crime documentaries ever since we watched love has won (highly recommend, though be warned bc they won't tell you this but there are graphic depictions of a corpse and it does get very, very disturbing so be advised if you can't handle that kind of thing)

Sweet/spicy/savoury: spicy. i'm a spicy guy. i love spicy. i put jalapeños on my italian hoagies from wawa just to feel something.

Relationship status: single and not even entertaining anything remotely romantic. happy valentine's day.

Last thing I googled: not sure if i can legally say what i searched but let's just say i was looking for a ridiculous valentine's day read and i found it :)

Current obsession: literally every square enix game i've been able to get my grubby little hands on. kingdom hearts is still at the top of the list but ff16 is a close second, that i hope to be tied with ff15 the further me and my sisters get into it. the world ends with you fucks too i just need to sit down and play more. shout out to square enix for excelling at toxic yaoi, though. nobody's doing it like them.

don't have anyone specific to tag so if anyone sees this and wants to do it, be my guest

[astranauticus]

oooooh fun

Last Song: Villain - Unnamed (cover)

Favorite Color: cyan/turquoise

Last Book: idk if the epic of gilgamesh counts cuz i had to read that for class but if not uhhh probably volume 7 of the chinese orv novels

Last Movie: It's What's Inside! very very cool little thriller with some of the most fascinating editing ive seen in a movie

Last Show: How I Attended an All-Guy's Mixer (extremely stupid (affectionate) rom com about crossdressing college students) (started this show bc of the mother's basement recommendation that called it 'yaoi for straight people')

Sweet/Spicy/Savoury: Savory

Relationship Status: Single

Last Thing I Googled: 'dont starve steam mod limbus company' (its real! but all the dialogue is in chinese apparently (?????)

Current obsession: well you can guess from the previous answer. but yeah limbus company/project moon games

Looking Forward To: club event tomorrow and my school holidays

if you see this i tag you!

ten people i'd like to get to know better

tagged by: @megkuna thanks <333

last song: the phantom of the opera

favorite color: muted green

last book: uhhhhhh oh man i really need to start reading books

last movie: phantom of the opera which i watched with a friend

last tv show: the original star trek which i also watched with a friend

sweet/spicy/savory: sweet, i love sugar too much

relationship status: single and not looking, i'd rather just have more friends

last thing i googled: "how to know if skincare routine is too harsh" my pimples hurt in a Different way now :(

current obsession: probably still mob psycho 100 but it's not what it used to be. yay depression

looking forward to: when my family finally moves into the new house

tagging: @scarecloud69 @disorganised-thoughtss @daneonrainbow @lawful-goof @officialkarinuzumaki @leo-probably @vychodocech @umkayonninay @mocha-blossom @spageddy29 no pressure though <3

[aftonfamilyvalues]

> you

> folx - batmoid, christian bale, logan roy, walter white, alex jones, feet

> stana - danny elfman, shit, insects, male pregnancy

> blabbys - willem dafoe, vomit, blood-cum

> lichina - gavril madaraki

> blackboardshortsbaby - nathan prescott, mommy

> venuskvinde - dean winchester, yaoi, sadism

> bakerstreetdoctor - dean winchester, blood

> floxi - jerma

> whitewaterves - putin, killing him

> speedroidterrortop - yuya sakaki

okay great! time to redo my list!

folx:

batmoid - i loved his work on baman piderman, 9/10

christian bale - at your party, what dont you fucking understand? 8/10

logan roy - oh, hes old, 9/10

walter white - nice undies, baldy, 7/10

alex jones - provides great audio for me to clip and apply to william, 9/10

feet - not my thing but far from the worst thing, 6/10

stana:

danny elfman - didnt know he was the lead singer of oingo boingo up until like 3 or 4 years ago, love weird science, 7/10

shit - no, -4/10

insects - i dont understand how thats a fetish but hello little buggies! 10/10

male pregnancy - just like in the flesh! 9/10

blabbys:

willem dafoe - i still think it would be the funniest thing imaginable if he played william afton in a fnaf movie. blorbo merging, 10/10

vomit - still dont do well with bodily fluids like this, id throw up too -1/10

blood cum - blum, 8/10

lichina:

gavrill madaraki - i had no idea who this is but the first thing google says is "Gavrill is a transformer" so now im thinking about the autobots, 10/10

blackboardshortsbaby:

nathan prescott - i think hes a party animal, right? so hes a good time? spoiled mentally ill rich boy, 6/10

mommy - uh, hm... strangely im not very disgusted? 7/10

venuskvinde:

dean winchester - seems like a chill guy, 6/10

sadism - respect hurting men, not my kink though, 8/10

bakerstreetdoctor:

dean winchester - ditto, 6/10

blood - blood is still cool, 8/10

floxi:

jerma - this is the funniest man on earth to blorbo. the most fictional character man to exist in real life. a real life fucking meme, 10/10

whitewaterves:

putin - what? 0/10

killing him - kam, 10/10

speedroidterrortop:

yuya sakaki - green hair. pronouns? i dont know. im not a weeb, 5/10

aftonfamilyvalues:

william afton - love of my life, infinity/10

fetishes? hm

office sex - yes

fucking on company time - yes

creampies - yes. pregnancy, no

watching him masturbate - yes

i guess i talk about blowjobs a lot too, huh? - yes

the spring bonnie head staying on during sex - yes

[vixenpen]

Hawks’ Harem (Fan Club adventures pt.1)

It started off innocent. It really did.

“Have you guys ever seen some of the stuff our fan clubs say about us in those groups?”

“Tell me about it, down right filthy.”

“You think that’s something, you should see the art.”

“Bruh no way, if I see one more pornographic picture of me and boss man, I’m gonna lose it.”

Keigo’s ears had pricked at the sound of his name.

“What about me and porn?”

“Oh nothing,” his sidekick known as Bullseye grinned, “Falcon here was just talkin’ about all the super hot yaoi porn your fans drew of you two.” He slung an arm around Falcon and shook his friend teasingly.

Keigo chuckled.

“What did I tell you guys about indulging the fans and their shenanigans? You’re gonna mess around and get more than you bargained for.”

“I use a dummy account,” Bullseye shrugged, “and it’s not like I do it all the time. I just drop in time to time to check it out. It’s good for kicks or a quick pick me up! Hey, who doesn’t like a little self indulgent ego stroke every now and then.”

“Whatever man,” Keigo snorted, “all I know is, when that slash art ends up scarring you for life, it ain’t covered in your medical insurance.”

“Pain and suffering!”

“Hawks Hero Agency isn’t liable for self inflicted injuries.”

He and his sidekicks had joked about it for a few more minutes before eventually ordering a new round of drinks.

And that had been that.

At least it was supposed to be.

Until curiosity killed the cat-er-bird.

Keigo had honestly never really engaged with social media. In that way, he was totally different from his peers, who were pretty much the social media generation.

Keigo did little more than post and collect memes,troll his friends, and occasionally double tap a kind comment on his posts or picture.

Aside from that though, he steered clear of any hero worship-y sectors of the Internet. It was weird seeing all the gushing praise and frankly misplaced, in his opinion, admiration.

If these people knew half the shit Keigo had done for the sake of his ‘heroism’ he was sure they’d be singing a different tune.

But one bored night on the roof of his penthouse, his mind wandered back to that random happy hour conversation with his sidekicks.

He mulled it over for a few minutes.

Maybe just a peek. It couldn’t hurt.

He kept it light. He googled: ‘Hawks fan club.’

The results were fairly benign. Cute even.

Look at him guys 🥺🥺🥺 just look at him

>///< his cheeks look so pinchable 🤏

A wild birb boi has been spotted

They had inserted a pic of Hawks eating a free chicken skewer from one of his favorite vendors in Musutafu.

Babiiieeee 🥰🥰

He chuckled.

Ok, this is cute. A little weird, but cute and harmless.

He scrolled on.

There was fanart, fan fiction (which he didn’t feel brave enough to read yet), theories, forums, cosplays (not bad. Little crooked on the eye markings though...)

Am I actually having fun with this?

He thought.

Hawks’ Chickadees? What’s this?

“Eighteen plus, huh? Well whatever it is, it’s spicy, apparently. Alright, let’s check it out.”

Hey u guys ever wonder what Hawks would look like with a brow wax and no eye markings?

Like A basic bitch

Keigo snorted.

*inserted image*

I shopped to the best of my ability.

Thanks I hate it 🙃

NO! GOD NO!

Cursed image!! Take it away!!!!!

mY eYEs!

Take it away!!

So we all in agreement that our bird daddy is perfect just the way he is?😌

Aye!

Aye!

Aye!

Keigo chuckled. “Cuties.”

Sooo, guys. Random dirty thought.

👀👀👀👀👀

Let’s hear it!

Ok, so Hawks fucking u in an alleyway during his patrol

🥵🥵🥵

OH YES D-

Hawks shifted in his seat with a small nervous laugh.

“Well, chickadees. Getting to the eighteen plus right away, huh? The HSPC would pluck me and hang me outside the building for a stunt like that.”

But wait, he rescues you and you offer him a blow job in the alleyway

🙈🙈🙈 OMG 🙈🙈🙈

But wait, he enjoys it so much he invites you to his agency to fuck him in his office

Akskakdkskdksk

I can’t I—

Plz stoppp

Blowing Hawks under his desk

He eats me out on his desk😩😩👅

Hawks bending me over the desk and pounding my pussy👄👄👄

Who does this belong to?😈

U daddy🤤🤤

Damn right😈😈😈

Y’all have to be super quiet in the alley!

A heat rose in Keigo’s cheeks. Well this had certainly escalated quickly.

“That, uh, that seems like enough of this for tonight.”

As he went to shove the phone back in his pocket, notifications lit up his screen. It seemed his chickadees weren’t quite done fantasizing.

U think Hawks is good at giving head?

“I’d like to think so,” he muttered to himself. Despite himself, his amber eyes remained fixed on his phone screen, curios about what the other ‘chickadees’ has to say about it.

Idk. Man exudes big dick energy🍆

I would hope so

I think so

He too cocky. I think he’s a pillow princess

Omfg pillow princess Hawks

He loves getting his ass eaten

Cock rings🧚🏽✨✨

Vibrating butt plugs 😩🧚🏾‍♀️✨

He devours the 🐱

And the 🍆

And the 🍑

Slurrrppp💦💦💦

I meeeeannn I volunteer as tribute to find out if Hawks can eat 🐱

Me toooo

I’ll get in line

He really hadn’t meant to spend the better half of an hour reading the chat...or having to stop himself from correcting the chickadees on their, seemingly endless, theories about his sexual prowess.

He really hadn’t meant to find himself blushing as hard as he was right now.

And he definitely hadn’t meant to be palming himself through his joggers as he read the slew of dirty messages and fantasies they threw out.

This was just supposed to be a fun way to pass the time.

And It was fun...

Which is exactly why he had bookmarked the ‘Hawks Chickadees’ group chat.

It’s just a fun little way to pass the time....