#greenwich naval museum

[gameo-archive]

"Can you recommend us some bars/places for us to visit while we're in London? What was your favourite scene you filmed with the other dbd characters/cast? Jayden could you give us your version of George's iconic 'Hello Pookie Bearcubs'?"

[jamesfitzjamesdotcom]

HMS Cornwallis model

This contemporary ship model of HMS Cornwallis is located in the All Hands children's gallery at the National Maritime Museum Greenwich. I missed it the other times I went because I didn't think to look there.

Fitzjames served on the Cornwallis from 1841-1843 during the First Opium War in China. This ship model was made from the same wood that was used for the actual ship and made by the shipbuilder himself in 1813.

[Pictures by me]

[thebaffledcaptain]

for my mutuals interested in my England Exploits…. finally got to the national maritime museum today (saved the best for last), made a beeline for the nelson’s navy exhibit, and felt like I was seeing a celebrity

my takeaways:

it never really struck me how small of a person nelson was… it was such an experience to realize I was essentially standing at eye level with him while I was looking at his uniform

there was, however, a disappointing lack of Homoerotic Detail during the entire section dedicated to his death (which is to say they entirely failed to mention Kiss Me Hardy). they also just didn’t mention the gruesome fate of his body between his death and his funeral (which is to say they skipped the fun part)

I have so many mixed feelings about this man. what a guy

the 1787 uniform remains my favorite pattern but the 1795 pattern is a very close second

james clark ross’s sword! the one he held in the Hot Portrait!!

twink nelson

[wolfephoto]

London from Greenwich park by John Wolfe Via Flickr: On top of the hill, Summer 2023

[bossybigeyes]

new James Fitzjames display thing in the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich - at least I’d say it’s new because I’ve been several times and never seen it before and it makes reference to his remains having been recently identified!

OBJECT IN FOCUS

An act of 'gallant heroism'

On 1 February 1835 ship's mate James Fitzjames saved the life of James Dickinson, who had fallen into the River Mersey near Liverpool. Fitzjames was on board the ship George Canning when customs officer Dickinson, who was helping to load supplies from a steamer, slipped into the river. In a letter to his uncle, Fitzjames described how he spotted Dickinson - who was unable to swim - 'floundering away like a porpoise'.

Without hesitation, he jumped fully clothed into the fast-moving and freezing cold Mersey.

He managed to keep Dickinson's head above the water until they were picked up by a small boat a considerable distance downriver. Much to Fitzjames's embarrassment, his story made the national newspapers and he received several awards in recognition of his bravery.

Presentation cup

E. Terry & Co., 1830-31

The Corporation of Liverpool presented this silver cup to seaman James Fitzjames at a celebratory dinner in February 1835 after he saved the life of James Dickinson. He later took it back to his ship, where it was filled with mulled port and the whole crew drank to his health. Fitzjames was also granted Freedom of the City of Liverpool, while the Royal Humane Society and the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI) awarded him silver lifesaving medals (the RNLI medal is also in the National Maritime Museum's collection).

MY CHOICE

'I chose this cup because the person it was awarded to deserves more recognition. James Fitzjames is a true maritime hero who I think history has neglected. After the act of bravery for which he was given the cup, Fitzjames went on to have a distinguished naval career, before losing his life during Sir John Franklin's ill-fated Arctic expedition (1845-48). Using DNA analysis, researchers finally identified his remains, recovered from King William Island, Canada, in September 2024. It was this moment that inspired me to suggest this object for display!

Suzy Jenvey, Visitor and Sales Assistant

[tristanaef]

Recovering the Queer History of Britain’s Navy in the Age of Sail

If you missed this great talk from the Royal Museums Greenwich, the recording is available! From their YouTube channel:

What is the queer history of the Royal Navy in the age of sail? How did sailors break their society’s rules about sex and gender? Did they enter into same-sex relationships? Did they act in other ways that men ‘weren’t supposed to’ and what were the consequences? Is it possible to learn more about these sailors’ lives and why is it so important to do so? Dr Seth Stein LeJacq (New York Institute of Technology) investigates sexual cultures at sea, discipline and military justice. This includes a long string of naval sex scandals, beginning with the 1698 trial of Captain Edward Rigby.

More Maritime History and Culture Seminars

Dr Seth Stein LeJacq's website

[thiziri]

The Princess Royal visits British Columbia, Canada.

As Commodore-in-Chief of the Canadian Fleet Pacific, Her Royal Highness The Princess Royal, accompanied by Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, has been in British Columbia for a series of engagements with the Royal Canadian Navy.

Upon arrival in Canada on Friday 3rd May, The Princess Royal attended the Commissioning Ceremony for the HMCS Max Bernays – the Canadian Pacific Fleet’s first Arctic and Offshore Patrol Vessel. The Princess Royal also had an opportunity to tour the ship and meet some of its company.

The following day, on Saturday 4th May, Her Royal Highness laid a wreath at God’s Acre Cemetery as President of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. The historic cemetery, in Esquimalt, is the final resting place of more than 2,500 military personnel and their families.

Next, The Princess Royal visited the Maritime Museum of British Columbia Archive to view some of the items in its archival collection.

After learning that there was no naval museum during a visit to Esquimalt in 1951 by the then Princess Elizabeth and Prince Phillip, Prince Philip contacted the Greenwich Maritime Museum and asked them to send some objects to British Columbia to start a new naval museum thus creating the Maritime Museum of British Columbia.

The Princess Royal also visited FED Urban Farm to hear about their work in providing home-based start up food gardens during the Pandemic which used simple and affordable supplies.

On Sunday 5th May, The Princess Royal and Sir Tim Laurence attended the Battle of the Atlantic Memorial Parade. The Battle of the Atlantic was the longest continuous battle of the Second World War and the Parade commemorates the service and sacrifice of the thousands of Canadians who fought for control of the North Atlantic Ocean to supply the war effort from 1939 to 1945.

© Royal UK

[scotianostra]

On November 3rd 1819 the physician and naturalist Henry Duncan Spens Goodisr was born.

Henry was born in Anstruther, Fife, the son of a surgeon, his elder brother was Prof. John Goodsir, who became Professor of Anatomy at the University of Edinburgh. Harry as he became known, was trained in Edinburgh, where his lecturers included the infamous anatomist Robert Knox and was licensed by the Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh in 1840.

Harry served as Conservator to the Museum of the Royal College from 1843 until 1845, when he was appointed assistant surgeon and naturalist to the Franklin Expedition. This sailed to the Arctic aboard two ships, HMS Erebus and HMS Terror, under the command of Captain Sir John Franklin, in search of a North-West Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean.

Last seen in July 1845, the expedition was the focus of numerous searches and much speculation. His brother Robert Anstruther Goodsir, sailed twice to the Arctic in an attempt to determine the fate of Franklin's Expedition. Through talking to the Inuit, Orcadian John Rae was finally able to solve the mystery in 1854. The ships had become ice-bound and eventually the entire crew of 129 had starved to death.

Goodsir's name was inscribed on the Franklin Memorial at the entrance to the Chapel of the Old Royal Naval College in Greenwich. Over the succeeding years, the remains of several individuals were discovered in the vicinity of King William Island in the Canadian Arctic. In 1869, the American explorer Charles Francis Hall was shown a grave by local Inuit on the island. Based largely on the clothing, the remains were identified as those of Lieutenant H. T. D. Le Vesconte and were returned to Britain to be interred beneath the Franklin Memorial at Greenwich.

Further investigation in 2009, which involved facial reconstruction and isotopic analysis of the teeth, led to the conclusion these were not the remains of Le Vesconte rather they were most-likely those of Goodsir. It was my friendr Leonard Low who questioned the identity of the bones...his full story and facial reconstruction is in his book Largos Untold Stories, Leonard opened up his own Witchcraft Museum in Leven earlier this year.

The Goodsir Papers, held by the Royal Scottish Geographical Society, comprise letters sent by Harry to his family before his disappearance. In 2018, a plaque was laid by family members near the spot where Goodsir died on King William Island.

The second pic is a memorial is to commemorate the Goodsir family in Largo and Newburn Parish Church.

[aimeedaisies]

The Princess Royal’s Official Engagements in October 2023

02/10 As President of the Riding for the Disabled Association visited Avon Riding Centre, to mark its 40th Anniversary. 🐴🥳

03/10 Held two Investiture ceremonies at Windsor Castle. 🎖️

With Sir Tim As Patron of the Minchinhampton Centre for the Elderly, visited Horsfall House, Minchinhampton. 👵🏻👴🏻

04/10 In Cornwall Princess Anne visited;

Origin Coffee in Porthleven. ☕️

Camborne School of Mines at the Penryn Campus of University of Exeter, in Penryn. 🔨

St Ewe Free Range Eggs Packing Centre in Truro. 🥚

05/10 As Colonel of The Blues and Royals (Royal Horse Guards and 1st Dragoons), attended a Household Cavalry Medal Parade at Powle Lines, Picton Barracks in Wiltshire. 🫡

07/10 With Sir Tim Attended the Scotland vs Ireland Rugby World Cup match at the Stade de France in Paris. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇫🇷🏉

09/10 As Patron of Livability, visited Livability Millie College in Poole. 🏫

As Patron of UK Youth, visited Avon Tyrrell Outdoor Activity Centre in Bransgore. 🧗‍♀️

10/10 Attended a Future of UK Food Systems Seminar held by Crops for the Future at the National Institute of Agricultural Botany in Cambridge. 🚜

As Commandant-in-Chief (Youth) of St. John Ambulance, opened the new Ambulance Hub in Castle Donington. 🚑

11/10 Held two investiture ceremonies at Windsor Castle. 🎖️

Unofficial, Sir Tim attended the opening of the New Zealand Liberation Museum, Te Arawhata, in Le Quesnoy, France. 🇫🇷🇳🇿

As Patron of Scots in London Group attended a Reception at St Columba’s Church of Scotland. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Attended a Blue Seal Club Dinner at the Cavalry and Guards Club in Piccadilly, London. 🤵‍♂️

12/10 As Patron of the Campaign for Gordonstoun, chaired a Cabinet Meeting at the Lansdowne Club, London. 🏫

As Patron of English Rural Housing Association, attended a Parish Council Rural Housing Conference at Eversholt Hall, Bedfordshire. 🏡

Visited the Aircraft Research Association in Bedford. ✈️

As Grand Master of the Royal Victorian Order, attended Evensong and a Reception at The King’s Chapel of the Savoy, London. 🎶

14/10 Sir Tim represented Princess Anne, Patron of the Wiltshire Horn Society, at a dinner on the occasion of their centenary. 🐑

15/10 As Member of the International Olympic Committee, and Chairman of the International Olympic Committee Members Election Commission, attended the first day of the 141st International Olympic Committee Session in Mumbai, India. 🇮🇳

16/10 As Member of the International Olympic Committee, and Chairman of the International Olympic Committee Members Election Commission, attended the second day of the 141st International Olympic Committee Session in Mumbai, India. 🇮🇳

Attended an IOC Reception at Jio World Centre. 🌏

17/10 As Member of the International Olympic Committee, and Chairman of the International Olympic Committee Members Election Commission, attended the third day of the 141st International Olympic Committee Session in Mumbai, India. 🇮🇳

Visited the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Bombay 1914-1918 Memorial at the Indian Sailors’ Home, in Mumbai. 🪖

Attended a reception at the residence of His Majesty’s Trade Commissioner for South Asia and Deputy High Commissioner for Western India in Mumbai. 🌏

Unofficial Sir Tim attended a memorial service for Lord Lawson (former Chancellor of the Exchequer) at St. Margaret’s church in Westminster ⛪️

19/10 Hosted a Reception with the King, Queen and the Duchess of Edinburgh at Buckingham Palace to thank those who contributed to and were involved with the State Funeral of The late Queen Elizabeth II and with the Coronation of Their Majesties. 🥂

With Sir Tim, As Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Army Veterinary Corps attended the launch of the Corps History Book at the National Army Museum in London. 📚

With Sir Tim, As Patron of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines Charity, attended the Trafalgar Night Dinner at the Old Royal Naval College in Greenwich, London. 🤵‍♀️🤵‍♂️

20/10 Opened Cutbush and Corrall Charity almshouse accommodation in Maidstone.

Opened the Royal British Legion Industries Centenary Village, Greenwich House, in Aylesford, Kent.

As Patron of the Butler Trust, visited HM Prison Elmley.

24/10 Held an Investiture at Windsor Castle. 🎖️

As President of the English-Speaking Union of the Commonwealth, delivered the Evelyn Wrench Lecture at Dartmouth House in London. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

25/10 In Scotland Princess Anne visited;

The International Society for Optics and Photonics Photonex Exhibition at Scottish Event Campus in Glasgow. 🔍

As President of Victim Support Scotland, visited the National Office-West in Glasgow. 🫂

Peter Equi and Sons Limited Ice Cream Manufacturer. 🍦

26/10 Opened the National Honey Show at Sandown Park Racecourse in Esher, Surrey. 🍯 🐝

As Royal Patron of the Security Institute, this afternoon attended the Annual Conference at the Royal Society of Medicine in London. ⛓️

With Sir Tim As President of the Royal Yachting Association, attended a 50th Anniversary of the Yachtmaster Scheme Dinner at Trinity House, London. 🛥️🍽️

27/10 Held an Investiture at Buckingham Palace. 🎖️

31/10 In Scotland;

As Patron of the Moredun Foundation, attended a Conference at Moredun Research Institute, Pentlands Science Park, in Penicuik. 🧬

As Royal Patron of the Leuchie Forever Fund, attended a Reception to launch Leuchie House’s new strategy in Edinburgh. 🏡

As Chancellor of the University of Edinburgh, held a Chancellor’s Dinner at the Palace of Holyroodhouse. 👩‍🎓

Total official engagements for Anne in October: 47

2023 total so far: 400

Total official engagements accompanied by Tim in October: 6

2023 total so far: 81

[lawfulgoodsir]

the screw tourniquet, the HICKEY knife, and 19th-century women in trades

I'll be adding to this post as I find more details.

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The same maker's mark decorates several recovered Franklin Expedition artifacts - including this tourniquet clamp recovered by Schwatka's 1879 expedition near Victory Point. (In this Petit-type model, a band would be threaded through the slots; the "screw" could turn, tightening the band around a limb, to stop circulation.)

("A Petit's-type wooden tourniquet screw clamp", Royal Museums Greenwich)

During the 2019 season, Parks Canada archaeologists observed another tourniquet clamp in the hold of the Erebus.

(I was slightly intoxicated when I first came across this image and thought it was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen.)

("This Petit-type tourniquet was documented during remotely-operated vehicle exploration of the main hold, below the lower deck. It almost certainly fell into the hold from above." - Parks Canada)

Because the artifact hasn't been recovered, I don't know the maker - I'd love to have a different angle on this photograph to see whether there are differences between the Schwatka tourniquet and the one currently in situ on the ship. (The thread seems longer on this one & I'm having difficulty visualizing the upper platform.) If this one also contains a Millikin maker's mark, that might indicate that expedition surgeons purchased multiples from the same company. If it's a different maker, that's exciting too - it could mean new leads on business records that might link certain surgeons to certain companies.

Astute observers and fans of the show may notice that another key artifact bears the same mark - the HICKEY knife introduced through John Rae's 1854 expedition. ("MILLIKIN 301 STRAND LONDON" is stamped on the blade.)

("Knife", Royal Museums Greenwich. Several other knives associated with the Franklin expedition are also labeled with Millikin's mark; they have been conveniently grouped in the museums' online database.)

So who was supplying these tools?

In most of the interpretive texts accompanying these artifacts, the authors identify John Millikin, surgeon's-instrument-maker, as the manufacturer. According to Dr. Brian Stevenson's biography entry, Millikin operated a business at 301 Strand from 1815 to 1833.

(William Battersby made a claim in 2009 based on this info that the HICKEY knife was a repurposed surgical blade - I disagree, as Millikin also advertised himself as a cutler at several points in his career. I'm intrigued by the fact that there are multiple different types of instrument sourced from the same manufacturer, though. I'm currently scouring the internet for more information on who was doing the buying.)

Dr. Stevenson's biography also reveals a potentially fascinating detail: that John Millikin died in 1833, leaving his business to his wife Martha. "...that my said Trustees shall permit my said Wife she remaining my Widow to carry on my Trade or Business of a Surgical Instrument Maker and to use and employ for that purpose such parts of my personal Estate and Effects as shall be then used or employed as capital therein..."

(John Millikin's will, sourced by Dr. Stevenson through ancestry.com. Highlights mine.)

Stevenson notes that Martha would move the business to 161 Strand "between 1844 and 1847" and would ultimately still operate it under her husband's name until her death around 1854. Obviously, things can be obtained secondhand - but if these artifact instruments were purchased new in that 1833-1844 window, there might be a chance that these naval officers interacted at 301 Strand not with John but with Martha Millikin, surgeon's-instrument-maker.

The world of nineteenth-century trades in London is a large one, and something in which I have absolutely no expertise, but I'm always curious as to the involvement of women in medical- and surgical-related businesses. At any rate, I think it might add yet another layer of complexity to the Franklin artifacts. :)

[notkingyet2]

Because of reasons, I need to know the questions and (correct) answers for a Royal Navy lieutenant's exam from the Victorian era.

Ideally I would like to see the questions and correct answers for an exam from between 1845-1850 but at this point I'll take anything from the 19th century as a whole.

So far I've found...

• a late 18th/early 19th c. naval officer's papers that include sample questions, but not answers. • an item in the Greenwich Maritime Museum's collection called "Examination paper for rank of lieutenant, Royal Navy." and described as, "Likely the exam De Chair sat in order to quality as a lieutenant, the paper provides an example of the lieutenant's exam. The paper includes translations to and from French and practical navigation. It also includes sundry annotations of navigational calculations." However there is no photograph of the paper online, nor is it currently on display at the museum. I have emailed the curators for more information but am still waiting on a reply. • that one episode of Horatio Hornblower.

Any further information or nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[gameo-archive]

"Do you have any inside jokes you could share? Or just your favourite jokes broadly? I’m going on holiday to London in March, any recommendations for non-touristy activities? Do you remember your dreams (sleeping ones) and could you share any?"

Transcript below:

"G: Right, oh, hello Tan, it‘s George here from… Percy Jacks— sorry, Dead Boy Detectives. J: And Jayden from Per— Dead Boy Detectives. G: Both filmed in Vancouver, both excellent shows of the supernatural variety. So, you‘ve asked us a few questions, Tan, and we are gonna get straight into them, so… question number one: Do we have any inside jokes we could share. Could we share? J: We probably have inside jokes but could we even explain them? Not really. It‘s most of them is just like noises and like weird just quotes from random things. G: Yeah, that's the thing, they kind of evolve as we're spending time together. Cause when we were filming the show we were literally in each other's pockets every day, so… Also, they just wouldn't be funny to you. J: No. It's like… you gotta be there for it to be funny. G: Not in like an exclusive way but, like, even Kassius didn't find a lot of them funny. J: No. Nobody did. G: Nobody did, no. J: You would have just thought we had like Tourette's or something. We'd just walk around set just shouting things and making noises. G: There's the shag smash one. J: Yeah. G: That's quite funny J: That was quite funny. But, I mean, is that an inside joke? Well, that's a joke anyway, so let's talk about that. So, obviously I had the line in episode… G: Three? J: Three, where I have to say, oh you know, we shag, smash, you know. Get it on, whatever the line was. And for some reason I was doing it in this voice where, when we were reading it and rehearsing it, I kept going ""shaaag"", ""smaaaash"". Again, probably doesn't sound that funny to you right now but at the time we found that absolutely hilarious and when it came to the actual rehearsal and when I tried to say it normally, it was the first time I said it normally, and we all were just on the floor. G: And the crew who watched the rehearsal—there's about over a hundred of them—they were not impressed. J: They had no idea G: They had no idea because… because it was a British joke. J: It was a super British joke. And they were all literally like this. G: So we then had about twenty minutes after that rehearsal to actually filming the scene which you see, which is now available for everyone to see. We had twenty minutes to get our you know what together. So we were literally lying down one by one and standing on each other's chests… J: To get the laughs out. G: …to compress them and get the laughs out. And it worked, didn't it? J: It did. G: I couldn't… I'm sure if you watch that scene, I'm not looking at him when he says that line because… J: I think I was looking at your bowtie as well, I couldn't look you in the face. G: Probably. It was towards the end of the day as well, wasn't it? J: Yeah, it was G: And sometimes towards the end of the day you get the giggles a little bit. But it means that we were having fun and that's the main thing. Erm, you said you're going on holiday to London in March, any recommendations for non-touristy activities. J: Well, I let you take this part, because I'm awful with anything touristy or non-touristy. G: I mean, it's not too touristy but you should visit the Greenwich Naval Museum because we filmed the very first part of the Pilot there, so you can go and reenact it, should you wish. J: Oh, I got one. Go to the Sherlock Holmes Museum as well. Me, George, and Kassius actually went there for some pre-filming research. G: In Baker Street. Yes. Do we remember our dreams and could we share any? I don't remember my dreams. J: I do remember some but they are just so blooming random. I had a dream last night that I went to my nan's house with my little brother and we walked in and she jump-scared us and I woke up. G: Fascinating. J: Yeah. G: Well… Both: Let's end the day with that."

[royalty-nobility]

Prince George of Denmark (1653-1708)

Artist: Michael Dahl (Swedish, 1659-1743)

Date: 1704

Medium: Oil on canvas

Collection: The Royal Collection, United Kingdom

Description

Dahl was a Swedish painter who studied under Ehrenstrahl before coming to England in 1689. He was patronised by Queen Anne, painting some naval portraits for her (subsequently given by George IV to the Greenwich Hospital and now in the Maritime Museum) as well as the three works still in the Royal Collection.

This ambitious equestrian full-length was painted for the Queen's Guard Chamber at Windsor Castle, where it hung until the 1870s. It shows Queen Anne's husband, Prince George of Denmark, as Lord High Admiral mounted on a grey charger, wearing a red velvet coat over a breastplate with the riband of the Garter. The defence of the realm is suggested by a fort on a hillside on one side and the fleet on the other.

Prince George of Denmark and Norway, Duke of Cumberland (Danish: Jørgen; 2 April 1653 – 28 October 1708), was the husband of Anne, Queen of Great Britain. He was the consort of the British monarch from Anne's accession on 8 March 1702 until his death in 1708.

[publius-virgilia-maro]

i went to the national maritime museum and the old royal naval college today, i love greenwich :D

[wolfephoto]

London from Greenwich park by John Wolfe Via Flickr: On top of the hill, Summer 2023

[ghostshipglamour]

Not immune to propaganda as in « yeah i’m against the military but if this was the uniform i’d go to sea tomorrow »

Royal Naval uniform: pattern 1843-56, lieutenant rank

From the Royal Museums Greenwich site here