#grace why would you do this

[ariadne-mouse]

I feel fandom would get along a lot better if there was mutual understanding that liking a character, agreeing with a character, and thinking the character is well constructed/executed are all separate (if often overlapping) positions, each with their separate tastes and subjectivities. Also: character portrayals are intended to make the audience feel things; this is separate from (if often overlapping with) analyzing/appreciating their actions and role in the story.

[lauraleescross]

I knew it she was gonna use translator….

quise decir lo que dije gracia 😡

i'm not threatened 😝

[naggascradle]

[somewhereincairparavel]

Alright. I came across someone saying that Rick "put Jason in a pedestal" and "overhyped" him by emphasizing how good looking he is and that Jason shouldn't have been so attractive looking. (Tbf tho that person made it sound like they seemed more mad bc their least favourite character was considered good looking lol) but I'll yap about the significance here anyways. Beware of a very long yapping session below.

I do understand their frustration though, because jason getting told that he looks good all the time makes it seem very shallow and unfair to the others.

And let me tell you, Jason is SUPPOSED to be gorgeous looking in everyone's eyes. He is supposed to be conventionally handsome, Rick didn't intend for his looks to be "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder " or something like Percy's (like how Piper didn't find him as impressive) Percy's is supposed to be more authentic. Percy's character isnt centred in people idolizing him, everyone can acknowledge that he's handsome looking, but it isn't in a "perfect" type of way, he's a carefree spirit and that reflects on his looks. While Jason is hardwired as this ethereal looking hero in people's eyes that not even ONE can deny that he looks good, bc ppl in Rome had set him as the "standard". Jason said this before in the lost hero, that him being a son of Jupiter, makes him feel like the support he gets is only because his dad is a very regal and intimidating figure.

That's kind of the whole point, he's supposed to look like this perfect man who can do no wrong. His "Golden noble boy" arc is literally the whole concept of his character. Why else do you think rick wrote Aphrodite approving of Jason's looks saying that he needed no improvement (which she rarely does) ?

Because Jason is supposed to be put like a statue to admire and idolize, that's ALSO why rick made sure to add that Jason looks like a Roman sculpture, bc that's like a metaphor for his inner conflicts. The guy was put like an artifact for people to ogle at in camp Jupiter ever since he was a kid of 4. That's part of the tragedy.

Annabeth said it perfectly “Annabeth tried to hide it, but she still didn’t completely trust the guy. He acted too perfect - always following the rules, always doing the honorable thing. He even looked too perfect. In the back of her mind, she had a nagging thought. What if this is a trick and he betrayed us?” Mark of Athena, page 6.

His mother, whom he's supposed to look like, is also a literal world wide tv actress. So you can't expect anything less either.

Also, Jason is supposed to mirror Percy. And let's be real. Rick put Percy in a VERY high pedestal looks wise, aswell, Not just Jason. And that's okay.

Rick made Hazel mistake Percy for a literal god because he was just that good looking (tbf, in a way, when I was younger, I found this to be a little bit of an exaggeration, bro was covered in mud and seaweed and was compared to a god, it was rlly funny to a 10 year old me 😭 yeah but don't mind this though, this was just a younger me jealous that I couldn't be as pretty as Percy was in mud lol) If Percy can be "hyped" up so "unrealistically" in that particular situation then so can Jason. They are both literal half gods, so unrealistic praise is very normal) and rick also made sure to emphasize that almost all the teen characters had a crush on Percy. So apparently that isn't called putting a character in a pedestal but Jason's is? They are BOTH put in pedestals, because they're both heroes.

Jason and Percy are supposed to be equals, so both of them being in the top two when it comes to looks makes SENSE. Because people are supposed to argue about who is better looking, since they're written as foils.

You cannot expect rick to make Percy look like a god and Jason look like a rat 😭 then there's no point of having them as parallels if one has the upper hand in something. Rick did a good job by conveying that they are BOTH attractive, but in different ways. That's why the Percy/Jason looks debate always have mixed answers.

Jason getting complimented by Aphrodite, the GODDESS of beauty, for his looks and her saying that he didn't have anything to "fix" in his face BC it already looks gorgeous = Percy getting compared to a gorgeous Roman god by hazel. They are both equal comparisons in slightly different tones.

[duchess-of-oldtown]

The Lannisters are so unserious. In AFFC, Jaime literally goes up to Kevan - his uncle who has been literally hunting down outlaws, commanding men, hanging robber knights and pretty much being a soldier long before Jaime was even a twinkle in Tywin's eye - and gives him advice?

And Kevan's literal reaction is

[chichihuahua1413]

ngl valgrace is kinda romeo and juliet coded

[grandpakronos]

casual plays every time i think about rick not making valgrace canon

[happyk44]

Annabeth: I think it's pretty good but it could be better. Because right now you're making a lot of good points but they're just facts, just data. How can you make that data resonate more with the audience and actually get us to come out wanting to engage in more ancient traditions and festivals?

Jason, who cannot comprehend that people might not be interested in the facts of his presentation on ancient Greek festivals and practices for CHB to start engaging in like how New Rome handles Roman holidays:

Annabeth: I mean think about the purpose of this presentation.

Jason:

Jason, points at his title slide: To learn about ancient Greek festivals and traditions.

Annabeth: Right, but what's the end goal?

Jason:

Jason, points at his title slide again: Learning.

[stayatsam]

my closest relationship to a celebrity is my best friend is cousins with liz gillies aka jade from victorious and i once had the temptation to @ her on twitter about why she wasn't at her great grandmother's birthday party with the rest of the family

[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

inch resting…?

In one of Vil’s Yasmina Silk lines, he reveals that he didn’t actually visit the Scalding Sands (which is why I guess he doesn’t have associated vignettes or involvement in the actual event story). Rather, Trey bought the outfit for him as a souvenir because apparently (this was never said anywhere else else before) Vil had expressed an interest in the fashion of that country. Vil tells him to stop it because Trey is “spoiling” him (as well as like, everyone else because he’s “too considerate”) 😂 but I guess that doesn’t actually help??

Okay, kind of weird??? I never thought of these two are particularly good enough friends to the point where one of them just buys the other a present for no particular occasion…? They definitely speak on polite terms in some vignettes, but I didn’t get the impression they were good friends. I also kind of understand Trey dumping extra cakes on others because he does it to everyone, but getting a whole outfit for Vil from a foreign country?? That’s not even a “considerate” thing to do, that seems like going above and beyond. I feel like you wouldn’t do that for anyone except a really good friend (especially since it’s mentioned that the fabric is pretty nice quality). If Trey wanted to get something wearable from the Scalding Sands for Vil, he could have just gone with a smaller accessory, no??? Not a whole outfit which costs… who knows how much?? I guess Trey was okay with just asking for an extra outfit (from the Asims)??

Maybe I should revisit those vignettes 😂 and sniff out their friendship…

[creature-once-removed]

can't wrap my head around the fact that in Peaky Blinders 3x01, the children's choir sings In The Bleak Midwinter at their wedding. I mean, obviously correct doylist choice of song, but the watsonian implications behind it... Tommy Shelby why the fuck would you do that

[somewhereincairparavel]

I'm so immersed in my jason grace new rome uni fic that I'm studying ancient roman law terms using this as an excuse. help.

[murasaki-cha]

⚠️Chalice of the Gods spoilers⚠️

I'm going to need several moments....... and tissues. Many many tissues

[the-paris-of-people]

The past couple days online have been... interesting. I consider myself a leftist, think capitalism is corrupt, and think that it needs to be seriously reformed/overthrown. I admit that while I've thrown around phrases and terms like "burn it all down" and "the revolution needs to come" out of frustration without actually thinking about what a revolution entails: excellent organization, unity, and strategy to defeat the United States, the world's largest military superpower which has inflicted political and social destabilization across the majority of countries around the world. There also needs to be superb infrastructure and community to support the disabled, elderly, and poor populations who rely on government assistance and programs, healthcare, and accommodations while this so-called revolution rages on.

All I've received from the far leftist movement are lectures from condescending intellectuals who rattle off academic citations regarding ideological theory rather than practical, tangible steps to advocate for change in our local and regional communities. I have not seen one of them actually discuss conversations they've had with their friends, family, or Americans about what they want to see reflected for the future of the country. I have not seen one of them discussed how destructive, detrimental and traumatic a Trump presidency was for social prejudice and morale in the United States. I understand that for many marginalized groups they've been living in a facist state for centuries so the possibility Project 2025 doesn't galvanize them to see the two parties differently, but I don't think it is fair to white leftists falsely equivocate the election of both parties for the entire American population at all??? Or like at least specify the issues you're referring to in which you view both parties as the same????? Literally one TikTok creator who I used to follow talked about how true leftists are so much better than liberals because they aren't waiting for a presidential candidate to save the world NOW due to the accelerated apocalypse due to climate change but when asked how to change the world they suggest sharing ideas of your future utopia with other leftist groups. How the fuck is sitting around talking about living in a walkable community is great considered "saving the world now"? How are you going to dismantle and restructure American infrastructure to create these communities? How are you going to remove existing racial and social tensions to create a community where everyone lives happily side by side? Do people not consider reality at all?????

And is it not wrong for people to have a fucking sliver of optimism and hope at incremental change that's achieved within the corrupt bipartisan system of American politics, even if they know it's propaganda??? Is it wrong for people to have a singular fucking moment of relief in feeling like their values, beliefs, and lives will be better protected and THEY can advocate for change better??? Is it wrong when there's a couple months until the most pressing election in recent history for people to make the choice they feel will reduce the most amount of harm???

[moregraceful]

it was once observed by a dear friend that the hours in which i am most alert are like 7pm to 2am which probably explains a lot about how my posts get worse throughout the evening. but also sometimes i look at today where i was just sort of gnawing the couch all day until about 5pm when i wrote an entire fic in two hours and then another entire post about kaapo which to be clear took another two hours bc i had to chase links and explain my passions in a kind way and this was in addition to a church meeting. i would excel as the person who lights and then extinguishes lamps in the night

[brionysea]

*thinking about all the times the batman (2022) hinted at dick grayson*