#good omens theories

[realitythroughthelensoffiction]

I agree with both opinions!

Heaven as a system clearly operates with fear. The fear of falling keeps the angels obedient. It's the same tactic Crowley uses to get his plants to be the most beautiful in London, as @ineffable-suffering explained in this post.

But there are ways to escape the system. It happens when an angel experiences something that is stronger than their fear of falling. In Gabriel's case it's his love for Beelzebub, in Aziraphale's case his love for the earth and for Crowley. Gravity is what "happens when objects are pulled together". Angels are pulled down, and their demonic counterparts are pulled up. They meet in the middle, on earth.

I take the conversation about gravity as a further indication that heaven and hell will cease to exist, because angels and demons belong together, on earth.

About the point of gravity!

One of the first things we see when Gabriel arrives on earth, is tomatoes, falling. He sees it, and he steps over it. I adore this detail because:

There’s this whole scene where Gabriel keeps dropping a book, all confused. And I can write essays about the ease with which Crowley helps him (he answers an unasked question, because he knows angels Dont Ask! He doesn’t get upset when Jim doesn’t blindly accept it. He goes ‘good point, not quite sure’ when questioned himself, *as a parent should* instead of getting mad and kicking your kids out of heaven!)

‘What’s the point?’ Jim asks.

And Crowley goes ‘so things don’t go wandering off and stay put.’

‘But it doesn’t stay where I put it’, Jim frowns. ‘It falls down.’

… and that IS the whole fucking point isn’t it? Without gravity, without the *threat of falling*, the angels above wouldn’t stay put at all. They’d wander off! It’s about fear, and sacrificing half of the lot to keep the other lot in place.

[havemyheartaziraphale]

I think, on days when Aziraphale was feeling sad, Crowley would start acting the Shakespeare plays he liked in order to cheer Aziraphale up

[caterhoades1971]

Day 4 (10 hours in), everyday it is getting closer to GO3 the finale.....

[bwlkins]

There are two types of people in GO fandom waiting for S3: 

[somehow-a-human]

DO NOT ASK NEIL ABOUT FAN THEORY

Michael babygirl, I apologize now for the close-up screenshots of your mouth I am going to put on the internet. Call Neil if you have issues with it, it's his fault. Brain-rotting brought on by the lovely @melbatron5000!!!

Honey, why are you chewing on a ball bearing? I was going to be lenient and say it's a glint off of some saliva but nah are you sucking on a damn pie weight. I didn't see you take a bite of any dippin dots??? Who let her near my stash of Buckyballs that I've been hiding from the Consumer Product Safety Commission? Just because you are bbgurl doesn't mean you get to eat bbpellets.

[worrynoodle]

PLEASE DO NOT TAG OR SEND TO NEIL GAIMAN

Edit: PLEASE DO NOT SEND FUCKING ANYTHING TO HIM. BLOCK HIS EVIL ASS.

I made you a gift!

It's a cheesy bumpersticker style nudge to STOP SENDING NEIL GAIMAN

- fan therories about season 2/3

- your own theories about season 2/3

- other people's theories about season 2/3 (ESPECIALLY WITHOUT PERMISSION)

- your wants for season three

- things you don't want for season three (other people might want that!)

- YOUR FAN FICTIONS OR FAN ART

He has repeatedly asked not to bring these things to him. And even though his answers can be funny it can get him into legal trouble if what ends up in the show is similar to fan art/fics/creations

Please! Stop!

Bonus

Feel free to spread these around I'm so tired of the second hand embarrassment

[stillsurfacequietpond]

Why Aziraphale really calls Crowley:

[aceingonthecake]

Hey chat, why do we think we'll get a third part of the 1941 flashback in s3?

I'd be absolutely on board with it (it's my favourite flashback), but is there a particular theory or headcanon behind it? I've seen a lot of posts referring to it, but I couldn't find anything specific and I'm very curious.

[somebebop]

The something’s wrong voice

PLEASE DO NOT ASK NEIL ABOUT FAN THEORIES!

I've just realised how similar these two little scenes are.

This, literally the first words Aziraphale says to Crowley:

-Hello, it's me. Don't say anything. Are you there? -Should I say something now? -No. Meet me over the road from the bookshop.

and this, from their last conversation:

-What's that lovely human expression? Oh, yes. Hold that thought!

And we all remember how the first scene was immediately followed by this acknowledgement:

So, if Crowley knew something was wrong from Aziraphale's voice over the phone right in the middle of their precious, peaceful, fragile existence, wouldn't it be more than obvious to him in the final 15, right before their devastating exchange started. The difference being, of course, that this time Aziraphale literally couldn't tell him: he almost immediately started to stutter. It continues like this:

-I have some incredibly good news to give you. -Really? -I, um... So, uh, um.. The Metatron! <there is a pause and he continues>

And this 'Really?' is almost 'You're really trying to convince me it's good with your Something's Wrong voice?'. Which makes me certain that Crowley knew Aziraphale was in trouble and didn't believe Aziraphale was sincere about any of the 'Heaven is good' stuff. Which also doesn't mean that he agreed with his choice, of course.

What's important for me here is a clever and thoughtful Crowley, not just a heartbroken Crowley. Look at him right there, listening and watching Aziraphale with such attention:

I don't believe he missed any hints. I'm sure he'll put 2 and 2 together pretty quickly. This actually makes two clever supernatural beings working on a PLAN in s3. The only problem is they aren't talking.

[lineffability]

sth i crave for s3 is aziraphale taking a stand against the metatron (who i do believe will be the main antagonist) and tell him to his face,,,,, idk sth along these lines i guess--- something dramatic like "You are not God." and everybody losing their shit and it's as if time has frozen and crowley stares at his angel both terrified (for him) and proud (of him). and he says "You are not God and you do not speak for Her. Do you?" and he is brave and sure and piercing in a way he rarely shows ( he is angry)

"For six thousand years She has not spoken to me. For six thousand years I thought it was because of me. I gave away my sword. I disobeyed Heaven. I-- I love a demon [cue crowley having an inner breakdown, bonus points if he hears this for the first time] and-and I thought I deserved not being spoken to. But she has not spoken to you either, has she. Am I not right? She has not spoken to anybody all this time, and nobody knew. And you-- you not only covered it up, you swept into the void She left as if it was your right. You do not speak for God, and I am not listening anymore. "

and then the power of love saves the fucking day and they ride off into the south down sunset together idgaf idc I LOVE THEM i need sth like that i need (sotfly) badass and assured and enlightened aziraphale pl e a s e

[queenofthearchipelago]

I know everyone's saying that come season 3 we'll have a kiss in 1941, but I'm still on the side of them having an almost kiss in 1941. It's probably because I love pain but imagine them after they get rid of the Nazi zombies for good, saving each other's lives in the process, they're in the bookshop talking as they usually do. Imagine the hour growing late, Crowley standing from his place on the couch to leave. Aziraphale walks him to the door, and there's just this moment that passes between them. Crowley's hand on the doorknob, and they aren't saying anything, but this time, they don't have to. I don't want to leave but I have to. Thank you for saving my life. I'm so relieved I was able to save yours. If anything happened to you, I'd... and they're just right there. So close. The last time an angel and a demon were this close to each other, it was in battle. But not here, not in this bookshop. Not with this angel and this demon. There's something else here. One day, when they have the freedom to allow themselves the thought, they'll call it love. But today... Aziraphale steps away.

"Why not?" Crowley whispers.

Aziraphale shakes his head at the ground, before looking back up into the curious, desperate, beautiful yellow eyes hidden behind Crowley's glasses.

"I can't," Aziraphale whispers back, something desperate painting itself deep in his eyes.

Crowley nods, reaching behind him for his hat hanging on the hat stand and placing it low on his head. Turning the doorknob, he gives Aziraphale a small bow and leaves.

It won't be until 1967 that Aziraphale finally finds the strength and the words to truly answer Crowley's question.

"You go too fast for me, Crowley."

[seriouslygoodomens]

Alright I'm back. Bare with me please.

We NEEEED to be talking about this.

When Aziraphale and Crowley have their first big on screen fight/break up(how ever you want to view it) we see Crowley start yelling about how he hates the "great plan" and Aziraphale goes on to say "may he be forgiven" this leads on to Crowley having a bit of a sad rant as below, even going as far as saying "i will never be forgiven, not ever. Remember, this is the Crowley that said "I didn't even mean to fall, I just hung around the wrong people"

Now what I want to add to this is how absolutely devastated Crowley sounds after this fight and how absolutely torn Aziraphale looks.

(Excuse my poor video, I couldn't find the scene online)

My rant doesn't stop there, no, no. I have more!

The ONE thing Crowley plays into is the "I'm a demon I'm not nice or worthy of forgiveness." And I think Aziraphale is aware of that.

1. He never gets mad when Crowley pulls the "I'm not nice" cranky pants act

2. He didn't even flinch when Crowley shoved him against the wall in the first seasons(but that could be for different reasons 😉)

3. He never, assumes Crowley is behind the wrong doing until Crowley says something dumb like "I got a commendation" regarding the French head cutting. He has learned over the years that what Crowley makes "evil" is usually not something truly bad like the whole bullets instead of paint but no one actually got hurt.

Aziraphale loves Crowley so much but he can't say it because they are always being watched. So you know what he uses instead? I FORGIVE YOU. We see it twice in the series. Aziraphale understand that Crowley thinks he will never be forgiven and that being a demon, he isn't worthy of anyone's forgiveness. So Aziraphale makes sure Crowley knows rhat he is worthy and that he cares so much about Crowley that even God herself won't forgive him, at least Aziraphale has. Aziraphale uses it as his I love you because in a way, it means so much more to them.

Here is the first "I forgive you"

Crowley is pouring his heart out trying to protect Aziraphale and get him to run away with him. He even tells Aziraphale how clever he is, granted he also called him stupid. This is another moment where Crowley is really trying to explain to Az how much he cares about him. Yes there is a LOT of miscommunication here because Aziraphale doesn't want to leave earth. He wants Crowley but he doesn't want to leave. He wants to fight for what is right. Crowley just wants to protect Azirphale and himself. He wants them to have peace together. The do argue and you can see Az is hurt again but instead of breaking things off like earlier, he says "I forgive you" which we can all agree doesn't just mean he forgives Crowley for being rude, he is forgiving so much

. The rude comments

. Lack of trust

. Showing he is worth forgiveness even with such a rushed apology.

Crowley could have left! By all means he should have but he could not abandon his Angel. There is nothing Crowley fears more than losing his Angel. He knew hell was coming for him, he knew they would destroy him for such a huge mistake but he stayed because his Angel is worth risking his life for. His Angel who forgives him time and time again for having to be a "demon" and put on the act. The Angel that has been by his side for thousands of years, just them against all else. Of course he stayed, and do we blame him?

Now let's move onto the second "I forgive you" scene and boy, there is a LOOOOOT to unpack there.

I'm not going into the last 15 because there is SOOO many posts that accurately portray the meaning behind BOTH of their song and dance. Especially Aziraphale's side. So I'm just going to cover that last scene in the shop together.

. Aziraphale knows they are being watched, just like season 1 all over again. The threat is much great this time, though, it's the actual Metatron

. When he first came into the shop, he KNEW what Crowley was going to say by the first words and Az even said "I know we ought be talking about..." he then looked outside and the scene continued. The whole time he keeps glancing outside!!

. When Crowley kisses him, you see Az lose himself in it. He leans in and holds him, ever so briefly before remembering they are being watched. The kiss is all they have ever wanted but it's the wrong time as they are being watched. Just watch him grab his back and straighten slightly

. The first place Az looks after the kiss is outside to the Metabastard. Crowley never once follows his eyes though, would it have been different if he did?

. That man is broken! He loves Crowley beyond words, beyond books and would risk everything for him, that's what he is doing to protect him right now in this scene. As stated in one of the flash backs in season one "I can't have you risking your life, not even for something dangerous" which means Crowleys life is more important to him than getting into trouble with the other angels.

. If your volume is up super high(we had a loud thunderstorm) you will hear "I..... Lo..... I forgive you" now you might think I'm hearing things but I'm not. If you slow the scene down and watch Aziraphale's mouth and tongue placement he IS saying the letter L not F. He couldn't possibly say I love you infront of metatron though, could you imagine what would happen? So he says I forgive you. It's the only way he could safely say "I Love You" without making the whole thing with Metadickhead worse.

. He grabs his lip and presses into it replicating the kiss! This doesn't add much to my rant, just thought it was super cute because it shows how much he enjoyed it and knows that he won't feel that again for a very long time, if ever.

[azfell-ajcrowley]

Something we didn't notice (part 2)

part 1

Overall, the meta is based on close observation of Aziraphale (for the most part) and Crowley. Without speculation or trying to guess what we haven't been shown (well, almost).

The Metatron makes it clear that he is watching Aziraphale delivering the "good news". Aziraphale looks back at him.

The first thing I'd like to explain. The Metatron is talking to Muriel, and then he stares at the window of the bookshop duplicating that gaze toward Crowley. The frame changes and we see Aziraphale looking out the same window, just for a second, but he will do it repeatedly.

As Crowley starts his monologue, Aziraphale tries to stop him by gesturing for him not to say too much, while looking out the window himself. Aziraphale continues to turn to the window with every meaningful attempt to speak.

Let's also note that Aziraphale doesn't usually behave in a similar way in conversations with Crowley. Yes, Aziraphale is characterised by active gesticulation, but the constant pauses, averting his eyes from the interlocutor, nervous and jerky movements - these are messengers that angel is holding something back, hiding or simply doesn't want to tell. Most often we see this Aziraphale in conversations with the leadership - God and Archangels.

https://commonmexicanname.tumblr.com/post/734305363759890432/good-omens-thoughts

Here's a prime example, comparing his interaction with Archangels when he's caught off guard and frantically trying to figure out how to get out of the situation.

I don't think Aziraphale is just lying to Crowley here, no. He just has an audience beyond Crowley. He tries to tell everything, knowing he has more than one viewer.

When Aziraphale mentions the Metatron, he is not just hinting, he points his index fingers - one at the window, another at Heaven, and then in a distinctly active quick motion once more at the WINDOW.

And again - turns his face to the window at the words about Gabriel failing, and then tilts his head towards the transparent panes of the bookshop.

The conversation with the Metatron is important, among other things, to assess Aziraphale's behaviour when Crowley is mentioned by his superiors. At the words about their partnership Aziraphale looks frightened: his facial muscles are tense, his forehead and eyebrows are furrowed, and there is a terror in his eyes.

When the God's spokesman concludes his really suspicious speech, Aziraphale swallows nervously and averts his eyes. He certainly doesn't look like someone who's been offered the fulfilment of his cherished dream. And not like someone who believes it.

Aziraphale looks like someone who has just found out what an enormous amount of incriminating information is in his opponent's possession.

"Tell me you said no. Tell me you said NO." Crowley is definitely shocked and horrified, he thinks the best of his angel. He can't believe what's going on (and he isn't supposed to).

Aziraphale turns his head towards the window again as an answer.

He actually said:

And

We see him right before he walks into the bookshop, he never says yes to the Metatron.

Aziraphale utters his most delusional words while looking out the window. Of course, they're not meant for Crowley. Aziraphale hasn't believed it for a long time, Crowley even more so.

And then Crowley says "Oh, God", without correcting himself afterwards, because this demon can only hope in God here.

For a second Aziraphale has a look of hope on his face that Crowley has realised what he's getting at. Then Aziraphale realises that Crowley is trying to confess. He's waited for so long not to realise. He was about to confess too.

Aziraphale already knows everything Crowley is about to tell him, but more importantly, literally everyone already knows it. It's impossible to stay and start pretending again that there's nothing between them.

Aziraphale has a completely blank stare past Crowley, and then he looks out the window. Again.

And then the most interesting thing happens. Crowley starts his line "And I would like to spend…" But he turns his head and finally looks out the window, where Aziraphale has been pointing so hard since the beginning of their conversation.

Maybe that's the reason Crowley doesn't complete the sentence. And he begins to pick up different words. Maybe not, maybe the sun from the outside is preventing him from seeing the Metatron.

In the final part of their conversation, when they move closer to the bookshop's door, Aziraphale looks towards the window again.

After "no nightingales" line he turns away to hide his feelings and pain.

The cherry on the cake is the kiss, Aziraphale is falling into the abyss. He averts his eyes trying to figure out if the Metatron could have seen what just happened.

When Crowley leaves, Aziraphale thinks he's lost him. But then, even when the Metatron walks in and says devaluing words about Crowley, Aziraphale can't tear himself away from the window, because now he can see Crowley there. Maybe not everything is lost.

Aziraphale retreats back to the clock - to the very spot where Crowley was standing a few minutes ago. He looks out the window at Crowley, as if to say, "I stand where you stood, you stand where the Metatron stood."

[caterhoades1971]

This was a year ago... through that comment, I produced all the work for Through the Ages, now a year in, we haven't finished yet, here are a few of the image..

I seriously don't think he knows the affect he has on people, he is too humble and self depreciating.

He Inspired me to pick up a pencil after literally years of no drawing.

[queerfables]

There's a story of questionable veracity about Harry Houdini performing an escape in which his wife passes him a key with a kiss.

I keep thinking about this story when I think about the kiss Crowley and Aziraphale share.

For me, it comes down to this: the fight between them is real. It has to be, because handwaving such an emotional scene as "for show" would be deeply unsatisfying. On top of that, it's consistent with the flawed beliefs that each of them carry. Crowley wants to run away to the stars, Aziraphale wants to Speak to the Manager about Heaven. There's no reason to think the scene is a lie, because if they were both telling the truth, that's what it would look like.

And yet. In a season that's all about misdirection and performance, I can't help but think there's something more going on. I haven't been fully convinced by any theory I've come across yet, including my own, but I do think there's an undeniable sense of waiting, of watching for the twist.

If the fight was real then where is the performance? Could the kiss have been real, and still misdirection? It's all an appeal, Crowley begging Aziraphale to stay, but maybe it's something else too. Maybe it's, stay, please stay, but if you won't, at least hold onto a way back to me. I'm not gonna pretend I know anything for sure. I just keep thinking about Houdini's wife kissing him, and slipping him a key.

As for what Crowley might have given Aziraphale, all I have is speculation. I've thought about this a lot and I can't come up with anything obvious placed earlier in the story that might help. But if I were going to guess? I'd say Crowley gave him the same thing he asked Aziraphale for back in 1862.

Insurance.

[somehow-a-human]

90 minutes….. to wrap it ALL up… will any of the reveals be satisfying? How much will we be missing out on from the original scripts?.. To say I’m devasted is an understatement. We, the fans, deserved so much more. I am happy we will see a canonical ending, but I’m sad and I just want to read the scripts from those original 6 episodes if I’m being honest.

EDIT: Im so thankful for whatever the hell Rob and Rhianna had to do to get us ANYTHING. My frustrations are directed to one man (derogatory) specifically. We had a S3 renewal confirmation and 6 completed episode scripts before the allegations came out and it tanked the entire production. Not even beginning to mention the victims but, how many people’s incomes were affected by this near cancellation and the now reduced run time? All because of one guy.