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milliebugydementia · 6 months ago

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I completely missed the parallels in s4 between el and max, especially in episode 1

- theyre both struggling with grief and loss of a family member who they had mixed feelings about. billy had been paralleled to max's stepdad, and hopper had been compared to brenner. they're both girls who have grown up in violent and controlling environments, but we see them bond in season 3 as each others' only female friends amongst the nerds. they get to have fun being girls together and el grows massively as a person for it

then in season 4 she's immediately tossed into the deep end as soon as she was trying to find a sense of self. we don't see max's mom, but we hear that she drinks, and we see joyce also having wine and being sad, not that this is ever shown to affect her parenting. but max and el are both incredibly lost at this point in the absence of each others' only true friend, and they both become withdrawn from the people around them in trying to act like everything is fine - el trying not to show will when she's upset, and max trying not to show lucas that she's seeing things, and being defensive to the rest of the party.

in s4e1 we see el getting mocked in her presentation while max is walking out of the counsellor's, both in positions of vulnerability trying to move very fast and get away from the past which is clearly haunting them (and they're both talking about the past and the specific trauma they're dealing with in the scenes prior) and failing to.

they're also both being pursued by vecna, which i feel is likely intentional on his part because he can read max's mind and knows he can use killing her to break down eleven.

and max is also so relieved when el finally comes to save her, from vecna but also from everything he is bringing up - el's intervention is as a hero but also as emotional support after max has been so isolated and alone in her feelings for so long, and we never really get to see her and el bond over their mutual grief before she moves away, nor exchange letters about feeling each others' absence.

it would be nice if in season 5 we get a reunion from them that explores some of that in their relationship as it develops, if they decide to bring max back.

i also think it's noteworthy that el and will and max and mike are also kind of parallel characters? mike and max have a lot of sassiness & sark and strength in character for standing up for the people they love & their friends, and a lot of their feud comes from being the same kind of defensive bitch (especially of eleven) and bickering cos they're just the same person? and even in terms of like gender nonconformity, max is a masculine girl while mike is not necessarily effeminate but by being the weedy gay autistic phenotype is kind of inherently gnc.

and el and will are both the sensitive, impressionable counterpart who they fight for, who've also both come from violent backgrounds, experienced a load of trauma pertaining to the same one guy, have the same terrible fringe and cry and have ptsd episodes a lot.

which i think is relevant because for both will and mike and el and max, that separation really strains on all of them, and when they come back together they realise just how much they missed each other.

in conclusion elmax byler supremacy

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tokiro07 · 3 months ago

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Undead Unluck ch.228 thoughts

[Father Time Looks GNC AF]

(Topics: character analysis - Feng/Time/Yusai, thematic analysis - age/unity, predictions - Justice/War)

As I predicted, we've moved away from Gina vs. Change to focus on someone else's capstone; in this case, Shen and Mui's. Also as I predicted, Feng makes his reappearance to both get his own capstone and to provide narrative context for Shen's

The best part about this development, though, is that it didn't wrap up in one chapter! In fact, this chapter was almost entirely exposition, discussing the thematic relevance of each of the Master Rule's to God's game, with only a small portion of it furthering the cast's narratives

In other words, this chapter slowed down the pacing! I predicted that each Master Rule fight and their associated character developments would happen in one chapter each to time the ending for January, so if one of those fights is taking two or more chapters?

It's definitely possible that the Xiang family story is just taking priority over, say, Yusai's story, and every chapter that this one gets is being taken from another, but at the moment that's just pessimistic thinking and doesn't mesh with how much attention Tozuka is giving the individual fights. Admittedly, skipping straight to Phase 3 for Justice without seeing the rest of the fight is a bad sign for Yusai, but Tozuka did the same thing for Billy/Tella's fight with War, which he's definitely going to delve more into, so I'm not willing to give up on Yusai just yet

Plus, the mere fact that Justice made it to Phase 3 gives us a little insight into how the fight's been going so far

Make My Monster Grow

Generally, UMAs enter their next Phases by consuming their Rule: Spoil ate his spoiled zombies, Summer ate fuel for his fireworks, Beast absorbed the souls of animals, Language accumulated languages in her game. Yet somehow, it went over my head at first that Time was literally stealing Shen's time; as Shen aged, Time got younger

This also retroactively explained for me what happened to Change last week - her shape was changed by Gina cutting her in half, so she was able to take on and incorporate that change into herself. She basically said that herself, but again, it didn't quite sink in

In War's case, all we need to know is that the battle up to now was violent. Every attack, every bullet fired, every drop of blood spilled empowered War. We know that they're fighting, so we didn't really need to see the battle that led up to War powering up to understand why it happened or how that theme ties into Billy and Tella's characters once we get to their chapter(s)

Justice is pretty similar, in that all we need to understand is that Yusai is fighting with her own sense of justice. The more she does what she thinks is right, the more determined she is to uphold her honor, the stronger Justice becomes. Just like Yusai nearly allowed herself to starve to death to save her village when Undraw manifested, she allowed herself to come to harm by trapping Justice's blade in her body. For the greater good, Yusai is always willing to sacrifice herself - that is her justice. She may not have gotten a lot of analysis or depth so far, but that bit of characterization can easily be wrapped up in one more chapter

At the very least, justice has been such a major theme this whole time that I would be shocked if we don't get a full chapter dedicated to the fight, even if Julia or someone else comes in to back Yusai up and takes some of the spotlight

However, that's something we can worry about later - this week we're focusing on a different recurring theme

Doesn't Work Like it Used To

Once again, Tozuka is revisiting one of his old favorites: Age as Proof of a Life Lived

In this case, the progenitor of the very concept, Time, is espousing a very different take on the matter. As he says, even without killing them, time makes people ineffectual and necessitates that they let someone else take up their mantle. Indeed, no matter how much experience you accumulate, how many memories you make, your body will one day betray you, and what once came to you with ease will demand a great deal of effort and pain

Whereas the rest of the series has focused on the value of time, how every previous moment builds up and contributes to the present self, Time's philosophy is the opposite, that every previous moment was spent and lost on the way to the present. Where the rest of the cast would appreciate the wisdom of age, Time considers the aged to have run out of value, finite like sand in an hourglass

But like every other Rule so far, his thinking is hypocritical and stops short of the whole truth

Like a Fine Wine

While Time is right that a person's time is a limited resource, that they will one day lose the capacity to perform and need to step aside for younger generations to take their place, he's completely wrong about the elderly lacking purpose

He tells Shen and Mui to give up because they're aging, that soon they'll become elderly, but even by his metrics, they hadn't yet. They still had time left to make whatever difference they could. They weren't idling and wasting away the time they had left, they were fighting tooth and nail to defeat the enemy in front of them, and what did it get them?

It gave Feng enough time to figure out how to fight Time

In a blatant reversal of roles, the currently much younger Feng is being entrusted with the battle because Shen is no longer capable of fighting, and the lessons that came with Shen aging will be applied by Feng. The young learn from the old; that is the purpose of the elderly, not to stand aside for the young, but to teach them how to reach old age

And that is the truth that Feng has learned as well

A Garden You'll Never Get to See

Feng's character has always been centered around achieving peak individual strength; besting others with his own power, being objectively superior when compared to others, and continuously improving without ever stagnating or regressing. However, no matter how strong Feng became physically, there was always one factor that he was missing that would prevent him from becoming the strongest: strength of character

Feng is a man who's defined by fear and insecurity; the fear of becoming lesser, of being alone, of being forgotten. In L100, Feng lamented that he had lost his power in his age, that his finite sand had drained away and he'd become ineffectual, so he desperately searched for a way to refill the hourglass and regain what he'd lost. He didn't value the years he'd spent refining his art, he resented the toll that those years collected from his body; Feng's time was not an investment, it was a tax, and one he would see returned no matter what

L101 Feng, on the other hand, never paid that tax at all. Instead, he watched as everyone around him who he had once considered an equal paid it. He watched as they slowly faded away, replaced with new faces he didn't recognize. But the truly painful thing wasn't that the people he knew vanished: it was that the last thing he saw from each of them was a smile. The tax man came to collect, and they gave their time happily? Unfathomable. All of their efforts had amounted to nothing, none of them could compete with him anymore, and now they won't even last long enough to see their pupils possibly match him. What the hell do they have to be happy about?!

But that's exactly what they have to be happy about. They couldn't compete anymore, but they knew that their pupils could, and that even if they failed to prove a match for Feng, they would surely be able to raise the next generation to do so. They were aging, yes, but they used what time they had left to pass on everything they'd learned to the youth, investing their remaining value in someone else

And they could do that because they had the strength of character to accept their fate

They were unafraid of the future and secure in the knowledge that everything they had worked for would be passed on; that their legacies would only become greater, would be shared, would be remembered. Though their bodies may die, their souls would live on through their techniques passed down through the generations

Feng learned this lesson firsthand when he died fighting Language, that his eventual death would not simply be the cessation of his life, but the impetus for further growth in his legacy. The memory of Feng will have its own unique impact on Shin Hakkyoku's development, but that will never come to be so long as Feng himself lingers; if he doesn't entrust it to someone else, then just as he feared and just like his unaging body, his art will stagnate

Therefore, the key to strength is not found in the individual, but in the collective, which happens to also be the secret to winning God's game

Life is Not a Single Player Game

As Time says, all of the Master Rules past Death were created to incentivize individualism; Changing people to be different from each other, giving individuals greater or lesser Luck, giving individuals different senses of Justice, Wars over protecting self-interest, etc. Sun created all of these Rules to introduce hardship and strife among humanity, instructing each of them to use their Rules to make humanity suffer

In other words: when individuals act solely in their own interest, all of humanity suffers

The Rules force humanity to act as individuals, a house divided amongst itself, so that they will not band together and ruin Sun's fun

And Feng fell for it

In L100, elder Feng gave into the panic that Time induces and came to resent that his time had passed. In L101, young Feng panicked as he watched everyone else's time pass. In both cases, he clung desperately to his own strength, either to prove that he hadn't lost it or to justify that he was the only one who still had it. In both cases, he was willing to throw away everyone else, every connection he had, to hold onto the individuality he had built for himself, for once everyone else was gone, that individuality was all he had at all

But that's not how the game is played

The Quests have participant requirements for a reason. They incentivize the Negators to work together, to band together to stand against enemies and challenges they have no hope of defeating alone

Even the Rules don't exist in a vacuum. Every Rule is tied together, a delicate balancing act that literally helps the world turn, like Summer's heat and Winter's cold, and the same is true of Negators. Undead and Unluck synergize amazingly well; Unseen's true power comes from borrowing the eyes of friends; Unfair only exists in the context of others

Sun's side of the bet was that humanity could never reach the Gods, and to prove it he gave them every reason to squabble amongst themselves. Luna's side was that humanity could, and gave them the tools to come together and put aside their differences; to form a Union

Of all of the Negators we've met, only two have resisted that Union: Feng and Ruin. But even Ruin has Blood and Shadow; he never needed to learn the lesson of unity, he already had, he just applied it to the UMA instead of humanity. But Feng? He was the final holdout, the only one who still didn't want to believe that the path of the individual was wrong

But now he knows. Maybe he met the previous Unfades when he died and learned from them what kind of legacy he was hoarding for himself, or maybe Fuuko's words finally sank in after seeing Shen and Nico's respective growth. It doesn't really matter what prompted it, what matters is Feng has accepted the truth and has chosen to stop clinging to himself and start giving of himself to those next in line

And of course, the one he chooses to give his spot to is one he acknowledged as a worthy rival

Passing the Torch

You can actually see the moment when Mui inherits Unfade: as Shen and Mui declare that they will always protect each other, Mui's panel has the subtle but unmistakable black smoke that signals the manifestation of a Negator ability. From that point on, once we see that Shen has aged to a wrinkled and spindly-armed geriatric, we don't see Mui's face again until the reveal. This will probably carry over a little better in animated form, as Shen will likely be shown aging in real time, but that was the moment that Mui ceased to age

From a lore perspective, this moment is fascinating because not only does it show that one person can be granted a different Negator ability between Loops, but also that the holder of an ability doesn't need to die to pass it on! Some folks believe that Feng had actually already given Unfade to Mui when he died in the Language fight, but again, we literally see Mui manifest it during this fight, and Feng himself is established as one of the foremost masters of the soul, so it's not hard to imagine that he learned how to transfer that aspect of the soul into someone else

From a narrative perspective, this completes Feng's character arc, as not only has he finally embraced his age and allowed someone else to carry on his legacy, but he's also done so through someone he once tried to kill for the sake of his own growth. In L100, Feng tried to use Mui's death to inspire growth in Shen, which would in turn allow Feng to become stronger, but now it's the opposite. Now Feng is risking his own life to make Mui stronger, so that she and Shen can pass on the strength that Feng had cultivated together

Every facet of Feng's character that had once been so antithetical to all of UU's themes has now completely flipped. By giving Unfade to Mui, Feng ensures that she won't lose any more of the strength he saw in her, and knows that through her connection with Shen, the both of them will become stronger as a collective, which will allow them to overcome Time, Feng's true eternal enemy

Feng may or may not die during this fight, but either way, he is going to become old again, as he was always meant to. His time will be taken from him, and his body will fail him. But his sand is not simply flowing away, a tax paid for his own life; each grain is being laid carefully and thoughtfully in place to build upon the last, to create something bigger and better

Time views life as an hourglass, draining until empty, but as I said, Time is wrong. Life is not an hourglass, it's a sandcastle. It may not be pretty, and it won't last forever, but it will have been built all the same. So long as we enjoy building it, then even once it crumbles, the memories of how we built it and who we built it with will never fade

Until next time

Let's enjoy life

#undead unluck #fouryearsandananime #4y1a reviews

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vampaiaz · 6 months ago

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— both arms cradle you now

pairing: billy hargrove / reader

cw: hurt, gnc reader, little to no comfort, billy is hurt, you're hurt, age regression, mentions or signs of self harm, break up, lovers to friends even if you both don't like it, little to no plot, blurb, first person pov, let me know if i missed anything!

a/n: wanted to write something different today! i've been feeling a little under the weather and this has been my mood for the day haha. i love angst :P

"why did you do that?"

just hours ago, we had gotten into a fight. billy tends to give himself a hard time whenever we raise our voices at each other. now i'm back in our house.

i take a look at his eyes—slightly red and glazed. billy had been crying.

he looked up from where he was seated, and i saw his lip was busted, his cheek swollen.

billy didn’t answer. he let his eyes speak, then looked back down at his hands. they were bruised.

"billy, what happened?"

i asked him again, tears welling up in my eyes. i want him to tell me, to open up and show me what’s going on. he never does.

"billy, i'm not doing this with you today."

i'm tired of getting shut out every time he's hurt. i always try my best to help him, but he brings me to this silent treatment, like what happened was my fault.

whenever he goes through these things, i'm the first one he goes to, but he doesn't even let me do anything.

he just sits there, listening to me talk to drown out what was done to him. things he did to himself.

billy looks up again, i'm standing over him. his hands reach over to mine, his thumbs rub my knuckles. he brings my hands to his face, he caresses himself with them.

as i watch him, tears fall from my eyes. he's like a child.

this is a child.

it hurts to see him this way, and i can't do anything... because i don't know how to help him.

"billy, talk. please."

i beg him, but he just keeps my hands on his face for longer. i gently pull away, and he lets go. he looks at me once again, and the tears in his eyes fall.

"please don't leave me," he whispers, his voice cracking.

this is the most vulnerable i've ever seen him. i feel sick thinking about what could've happened.

"i won't leave, billy," i reassure him. his eyes widen like he can't believe i said that. it's like the words are foreign to him.

but as i look into his eyes, something inside me begins to crumble. i've said those words before—so many times—yet here we are again.

i’m not sure how much more of this i can take. i know he’s hurting, but i’m breaking too.

i swallow hard, trying to push away the guilt that’s already creeping in, but it’s too late.

it’s not just his tears that make my heart ache; it’s the exhaustion in my own chest, the weariness of carrying his pain along with mine.

"...billy," i whisper, my voice shaking, "i can't keep doing this."

his eyes widen again, his hands start shaking. the tears in his eyes fall even faster. "what do you mean?"

his voice is still a whisper; he's afraid.

"i'm tired," i admit, my voice breaking. "i’m tired of this. i know you’re going through hell, but you never let me in. you never let me help you, and it’s tearing me apart." i shut my eyes, my hands reaching my face as i cover it.

i can feel the ache in my throat; it's disgusting.

"y/n," he says in a panic, "i need you. please."

the desperation makes it worse.

"i know," i say, still not looking at him. "and i need you too, but you’re not here with me. you’re somewhere else, locked inside yourself, and i can’t keep reaching for you when you won’t reach back."

selfish. so selfish.

"this isn’t fair," i say, my voice trembling. "it’s not fair to either of us. i’m so tired, billy. i’m so tired of feeling like this, of feeling like i’m losing you even when you’re right in front of me."

his tears fall faster now, his face crumpling in pain. "don’t do this," he begs. "please don’t leave me. i’ll try harder, i promise."

but i shake my head, the decision already made, even though it’s killing me. "i’m sorry," i say, choking on the words.

"but i can’t do this anymore. i love you, but i can't do this. i need to stop hurting, i need to stop hurting you."

billy lets out a strangled sob, his hands dropping to his sides, defeated. "so this is it?" he asks, his voice hollow.

i nod, my heart breaking into pieces. "i think it has to be."

we sit there in silence, the weight of what’s just happened settling in. it feels like the end of the world, and maybe it is. but i know, deep down, that this is the only way to save him.

"can we—"

he speaks into the stillness of the room. i finally turn to look at him; he looks ruined. i can feel myself physically hurt.

"can we still be f-friends?"

i feel like i'm talking to a child. this isn't the first time billy has been like this with me, but right now it hurts so much, i think i ruined him.

"yeah."

i softly smile, my eyes blurring from the tears left in them. he smiles back. his hand reaches for mine, intertwining our fingers.

we both sit there for minutes, until he decides to take a nap.

as i watch him sleep, i smile. he's at peace, he's not going against the world. i wish it was that way when he was awake. i wish i stayed by his side, but when i am... he's only losing.

#billy hargrove #billy hargrove angst #stranger things #stranger things angst #billy hargrove x reader #billy hargrove x reader angst #hurt #angst

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hyenagurl · 6 months ago

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What are people saying about Billie?

this time they are expressing their discomfort over her expressing her sexual desire for women in her song lyrics more, only it comes from twitter stans who might very well be gay men

granted this is only one tweet i have for an example and nobody should ever expect logic from a twitter user BUT this is def not the first time ive seen billie get shit from people on twitter for being a (somewhat) gnc bi woman. i remember when she was on the red carpet for the barbie premiere wearing her signature baggy pants look in all pink and there was a bunch of gay men online ripping her to shreds saying she was a pick me. billie gets a lot of bullshit for being bi and having her own style and it makes me MAD

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feminist-bitches-only · 1 year ago

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Found these comments on a post where op was talking about being happy seeing two weird little girls (fuzzy cat ears, anime regalia, etc.) having found each other as friends and I want to talk about it.

It’s reminding me of a couple months ago when people were insisting Billie Eilish was trans because she was wearing baggier/masc clothing. Do people really not understand the harm in implying that a girl is not a girl because she’s a little weird/masc/gnc?? What’s going on here??

#because of a recent terf accusation I got I want to reiterate that this post has NOTHING TO DO with trans people having valid identities #if either of the kids end up trans then slay!#the point of this post was to demonstrate my disheartenmemt of a trend I’ve been seeing where girls who are somewhat weird/quirky/gnc are #receiving comments that imply that they are not girls because of their quirkiness/gnc #which perpetuates stereotypes that are harmful for trans women and cis women alike #feminism #feminist #libfem #radfem #libfems #radfems #discourse #intersectional feminism #liberal feminism #radical feminism #afab #male socialization #female socialization #billie eilish #respectful disagreements in convos if possible pls #also if they do end up being trans that’s cool and all but please let weird little girls be weird little girls without implying it detracts #from their girlhood

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multishipper-baby · 4 months ago

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Random thought but I've been thinking about the names for the FHS parents, since most of them aren't named.

I like Oriana for Golden's mom, since it supposedly originates from oro, which makes it so that she's in theme with her son while still being an actual name. Unsure about what to name his grandpa- I'm thinking of Aldric, since it means both old and ruler/king, which fits with what little we know of him. Plus it's Germanic, which fits with my headcanon that his side of the family is from German descent.

For Bonnie's mom I went with Billie. It doesn't have any particular meaning, I just wanted to give her a name I felt was a similar vibe to her son's? Give her a name more often used for men and stuff. Very GNC family theme naming.

I was at a loss for what route to go for Ann's mom, but eventually settled on Grace. Why? Because Ann is derived from Hannah, a name that literally means grace (in the religious sense). I thought mother and daughter sharing name meanings was kind of cute, given how much they seem alike.

For Bon's dad, I actually used the surname as guidance: Smith, the most common surname in USA. So I decided on naming him Micheal, the most popular boy name over many decades- particularly the 70s and 80s, since he'd have to be born around that time to have a 15 year old son in 2016 (when the series came out). It's also sort of a FNAF reference, since Smith is the English version of the surname Schmidt!

Fox and Meg's mom was pretty simple- I just went with Scarlett, because you know... Redhead (technically her hair is more orange, but who cares). As for the dad, I was thinking of naming him Todd, since it means fox- but I'm not sold on it yet.

I decided to go with a spring theme for Spring's parents (for obvious reasons), so they're both named after flowers! Lillia for the mom, and Aster for the dad.

For Towntrap's parents... I like Apollo for the dad- one of the theories about it's origin is that it might mean "father lion" so it's fitting for me. And then I gave his mom a name that would match it, Maia (another Greek mythology name, meaning mother.)

#fnafhs #fhs #headcanon #headcanons #I don't know if I'm missing any parents we've seen. I think not #but yeah! I was in a naming mood today

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musclesandhammering · 2 years ago

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Brb just got told that “queerbaiting doesn’t exist” when I tried to explain to a straight girl how it’s problematic for straight men to get praised for their gnc fashion when the public generally shits on queer men who dress the same way. Then she argued that the man in question might be queer so he should get a pass. When I pointed out that said man had stated multiple times that he’s straight and has only ever been seen with women… she tried to tell me he might be closeted so he should definitely get a pass. So, genuine question……. Am I the asshole??

#for context:#the straight man I’m talking about is Harry styles #an example of a queer man getting shat on for dressing gnc would be like idk Billy Porter maybe #so yeah #also for context: I am not a queer man #I am however a queer woman so I have a little bit of credibility on the subject lol #anyway #sexuality #homophobia #queer discourse

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Auction ID: 1111

Will create works for the following relationships: Bucky Barnes/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, AvAc, AA, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, Earth-TRN591, Earth-TRN944, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Next Avengers, Noir, Old Man Logan, Secret Wars: Civil War, Secret Wars: Planet Hulk, Ultimates, What If..? Steve Rogers/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, AvAc, AA, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, Earth-TRN591, Heroes United, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Marvel's Avengers (video game), Next Avengers, Noir, Secret Wars: Civil War, Secret Wars: Planet Hulk, What If..? Bucky Barnes/Steve Rogers/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, AvAc, AA, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Next Avengers, Noir, Secret Wars: Civil War, Secret Wars: Planet Hulk, What If..? Loki/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, Arcadia, AvAc, Earth-TRN193, MCU, Noir, What If..? Teddy Altman/Billy Kaplan - 616, Noir

Work Description: Welcome to MassiveSpaceWren’s auction sheet for art or comics! This auction is for a custom piece of art/single comic panel that can be upgraded to more standalone pieces of art or more comic panels. The tiers are: <$60: A single drawing / single comic panel from $60: up to 2 standalone images OR 4 comic panels from $100: up to 3 standalone images OR 7 comic panels from $150: up to 4 standalone images OR 10 comic panels from $200: up to 5 standalone images OR 13 comic panels from $250: up to 6 standalone images OR 16 comic panels from $300: up to 6 standalone images OR 22 comic panels from $400: up to 6 standalone images OR 28 comic panels from $500: up to 6 standalone images OR 34 comic panels from $600: up to 6 standalone images OR 40 comic panels The art will be lineart or black & white, with a little bit of grey shading or some single colors. Please be aware I have a maximum of 6 standalone images and 40 comic panels, no matter how high the bid gets after these goals are reached. The standalone images are allowed to have up to 3 characters (without too complicated background) in it; the complexity of the comic panels will vary depending on the story. For the standalone images, I am happy to work with prompts or descriptions; for the comic, you can send me a script or a rough idea and I will work from that. I will show the sketches/page planning to be okayed by you. Since a page can have a different amount of panels, the page number will vary depending on the story, and I will send sketches for the arrangement on the page to be okayed by you. At least two changes to the sketches/planning are included. If your story idea doesn’t exactly fit the panel number, we can discuss options and work it out after the auction. If you have special wishes such as that you definitely want fullcolor art, or a very complicated background, please message me beforehand and we can talk about it (or take a look at my second auction). For example comic pages, click here. For example lineart, click here. Digital or traditional is up to you, in either case you will receive a digital file. (If you want to have the physical art, you will have to pay for shipping, might cost up to $10). I might be open to other ships depending on prompt and setting, so if you are interested, please message me beforehand and we can talk about it (or take a look at my second auction). It will take a while to finish it, since my real life takes a lot of attention, and other events also exist, and comics/multiple images can take a long while to complete. Please be patient. Good luck bidding and have fun with all of the great content in all of MTH! :)

Ratings: Gen, Teen, Mature

Can pods bid on this auction? Yes - Podbids welcome!

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Auction ID: 2059

Will create works for the following relationships: Bucky Barnes/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, AvAc, AA, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, Earth-TRN591, Earth-TRN944, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Next Avengers, Noir, Old Man Logan, Secret Wars: Civil War, Secret Wars: Planet Hulk, Ultimates, What If..? Tony Stark/Victor von Doom - 616, AvAc, Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, Earth-TRN591 Jack Rollins/Brock Rumlow - MCU, What If..? Tony Stark-centric - 616, 1872, AvAc, AA, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, Earth-TRN193, Earth-TRN591, Earth-TRN944, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Next Avengers, Noir, Secret Wars: Civil War, What If..? Carol Danvers/Jessica Drew - 616, 1872, Arcadia, AvAc Bucky Barnes/Natasha Romanov - 616, AvAc James "Rhodey" Rhodes/Tony Stark - 616, 1872, AvAc, Bullet Points (BP), Dark Ages, IM:AA, Marvel 1602, MCU, Next Avengers, Noir, What If..? JARVIS/Tony Stark - AvAc, MCU, What If..? T'Challa/Tony Stark - 616, AvAc, MCU, What If..? Richard Rider/Tony Stark - 616, AvAc

Work Description: Welcome to MassiveSpaceWren’s single image auction sheet. In addition to the listed ships, I am also open to doing art for other rarepairs than the ones listed. If you are unsure, please ask me beforehand. Do you like a weird small comic universe, or obscure characters with only a few appearances? I am likely up to drawing them. I may not have drawn all of the characters super often, so you may have to give me some reference. If you want a friendship with characters not listed (especially for female comic characters), I am likely up for it, just send me a message to ask maybe :D This auction is for a custom piece of art, that is: If the bids stay under $80: A black&white or greyscale or lineart style drawing, maximum of 2 characters with no complicated background. If the bids reach $80 or more: A full colour drawing/painting, maximum of 2 characters with no complicated background. If you want a more complicated background, please talk to me beforehand :) You can find general examples of my art here. - Black and white style - Watercolour style - Digital art Digital or traditional is up to you, in either case you will receive a digital file. (if you want the physical art, you will have to pay for shipping. It may cost up to $10, I am located in EU) It will take a while to finish it, since my real life takes a lot of attention, and other events also exist. Please be patient. Feel free to ask questions, I’m up for drawing almost anything! If you want a ship I don’t have listed, you can still ask (preferably beforehand). Good luck bidding and have fun with all of the great content in all of MTH! :)

Ratings: Gen, Teen, Mature

Can pods bid on this auction? Yes - Podbids welcome!

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