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It is time to hurt you all again with one of my first thoughts I had when I joined this fandom. It starts with Charles' parents right after he died. Charles' mum looking through photos of Charles for the funeral, and she finds the classic baby photo of baby Charles sleeping on his sleeping dad's bare chest. She's been barely holding it together, but this is what sets her off. This is what has her screaming at her husband for the first time. THIS is the man she married! THIS is the father to her baby boy! Her baby boy is dead, but where has THAT MAN been for all these years? How could THAT MAN have hurt her son?
She's crying and yelling, and shoving the photo in his face. She's been trying to hold it together for much longer than the week since Charles died, and this is everything coming out at once. Charles' dad would normally snap in anger, but that photo - he takes one look and everything hits him too. His son is dead. His baby boy is dead and not coming back. Before that, he hurt Charles, and over WHAT? He made his son afraid of him, and now he'll never have the chance to make up for it. He's crying too, and this is the worst way it could have happened, but maybe now is the chance for him to change.
#dead boy detectives#dbda#charles rowland#charles rowland's dad#charles rowland's mum#giving them a happy ending in the worst way possible#giving her a reason to have stayed#i'm not saying it would have gone smoothly or well#but let them both grieve and let there be something good to come out of the worst horror in a parents' life#mirella's muses
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Re-design of my un-named Beetlejuice OC from back when I was thirteen
Original Reference under the cut:
#my art#beetlejuice#toonjuice#beetlejuice cartoon#beetlejuice fanart#beetlejuice movie#procreate#I don’t really make OC’s for fanwork anymore… but the ones I had when I was younger almost never got named 🥲#When I first made her I really really liked her- and her story was very self indulgent#Looking at it now is almost way too weird for me… (and honestly a little unintentionally homophobic???)#Basically she was one of the girls from Dante’s inferno… except she got kicked out because she only had attraction to girls#(This was BEFORE I suspected that I was a lesbian— mind you.)#Yeah but anyway she went to the Deetz/Maitland house looking for a place to stay but drove everybody crazy#She was super flamboyant- loved everything pink n fluffy- and was well meaning but did more harm than good trying to do nice things for the#She had this one sided crush on Delia??? Like musical Beej and Adam except less perverted and more flirty/sappy? I was an odd kid- okay? 🥲#Anyway… the old design didn’t really do much to show off her personality… so I ended up upheaving the whole thing#It was okay for what I knew at the time- but I know what I was trying to say then and now I have the knowledge to say it better#Also— the reason I gave her horns here is so silly.#When I was younger I was in a Christian school where I wasn’t allowed to draw witches-ghosts-demons-etc.#So even though I based her on the Dante girls… I refused to give her horns because I thought that was ‘too sinful’#I even remember having so much guilt while looking for references of the Dante workers#I couldn’t even look for more than five seconds!#Anyways… she really pushed the boundaries for me at the time and it’s fun to see how I’ve changed and grown since then.
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Just saw some bitch on twitter say that movie Maria's death was sadder because "she had her whole life ahead of her without her illness" and I just gotta say please unfollow and/or block me and/or die if you think that way about disabled people or the chronically ill
#sonic#maria robotnik#sonic movie 3#scu#sonic movie 3 spoilers#prin posts#sonic posting#ableism tw#its not even accurate. her symptoms were in remission in space she coulda just stayed up there and been fine for the most part#in the games her illness was there so they could have a reason for shadow to be created and for his devotion to maria. that was it#they didnt even bother giving her any symptoms until recently (which is ALSO a problem btw)#the tragedy of her death in both versions is that she is a child who was senselessly murdered in a military coverup#heck id argue the games did it better bc she loved earth so much but never got to see it bc of guns actions#with movie maria she is JUST a nice kid who dies after giving shadow some words of wisdom. perfectly fine for a simplified version of sa2#but still a simplified version of sa2
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[Tuvok & Janeway: Control, Distance, Duty & Connection.] Sources: St Voyager Transcripts / Mitski 'First Love Late Spring' / Disco Elysium
#web weaving#star trek web weaving#st voyager#Kathryn Janeway#Tuvok#be the change you want to see in the world - make a long post about Tuvok & Janeway's similarities <- angel on my shoulder#I feel like a lot of people see them as 'opposites attract' sort of friends where Janeway is unhinged & Tuvok reigns her in#but in reality I think that while there is that element in there (exacerbated HEAVILY by their delta quad circumstances)#what I see most in their relationship is how they both value loyalty and duty above all and are extremely rigid with themselves#and the people around them. How they both have to maintain distance from others bc of their positions as captain & vulcan#I hate when people dismiss Tuvok as not being remotely interested in Maryana or Noss - it erases an interesting struggle that he and Janewa#both share - their desire to stay loyal to their spouses vs the 70 years of loneliness that that loyalty demands of them#But they BOTH triumph and they BOTH remain loyal (Tuvok until he returns to T'Pel and Janeway until Mark informs her that it's over)#and for both of them it's a little bit insane for them to do that.#Isn't it more interesting that Janeway and Tuvok both have feelings for people other than their spouses but don't give in#to that temptation?#They're both people who live very fastidiously by codes. Either written codes or moral codes - they very rarely if ever do things because#it's what THEY want to do. I'd say they're the least emotion-driven members of the crew and yes I'm including Seven because Seven#has a very...how to describe? It's a blunt and insular selfishness. She does what SHE wants to do and doesn't really care about others.#To me that's emotion-driven. Or...personal desire-driven? Not a bad thing at all but very different from Janeway & Tuvok who#are always more 'this is logical' or 'this is for the crew' rarely do they think 'this is what I want' bc they can't afford to#for different reasons (captain & vulcan)#they both also are in the most 'caretaking' positions on the ship from my POV. Security and Captain - both are directly in charge of#ship and crew safety.#Janeway & Tuvok#star trek voyager#st voy#when I say caretaking I'm NOT saying they're everyone's mom and dad or whatever - I'm saying they're in positions where they always#have to think about the greater good and the crew as a whole and how much danger is acceptable etc etc.#Janeway is always killing herself for the crew but Tuvok is right there beside her
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Post-War Golden Cheese and Dark Cacao my beloveds <3
#I have REASONS for my design choices#Also based of the HC that after the Dark Flour War GC stayed in the Cacao Kingdom until she was able to develop enough supportive tech#to actually make the city of gold. bc like. in canon she did say that even making major CHANGES to the CoG would put crazy strain on her SJ#much less creating it from scratch#kind of lower quality than I usually post but I'm in a slump rn#DC kind of looks like shit but this is the like 4th iteration of his outfit#and you'd have to legit torture me to make me draw a 5th#golden cheese cookie#golden cheese crk#dark cacao cookie#dark cacao crk#you can tag as ship irdc#crk#crk fanart#cookie run kingdom#Please someone give me incentive to tell the world about the AU surrounding this I swear its interesting#im gnawing at my cage bars please someone let me someone please give me the go ahead guys please I swear it's interesting#cookie run au#cookie run fanart#artists on tumblr#digital artist#drawing#teethart
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so, like... do you think Sorata is actually pushing to swap the main couple in AnS to Obi and Shirayuki? I know that being in this corner of the fandom imparts some bias and that ships don't have to be canon to be good, but Shirayuki and Zen have seen each other, what, twice in the past 50 chapters? It doesn't really seem like she's terribly interested in maintaining their dynamic.
It has been forever since I had the chance to dig into my asks, so let the record show, this ask came to me pre-ch 136, and I'm glad I sat on it because I think I would have given a much more equivocal response in August, and now I'm like:
Sorata did not give us 28 pages of Obi feelings for me to doubt her now 🤣
#asks#obiyuki#ans#listen could it still be zen & shirayuki in the end? absolutely#sorata is a great visual storyteller and I feel like even if that's the case#i'll be happy with how she leads me there even if I wanted obiyuki in the end#but like...she literally had every reason to keep zen there and then sent him away anyway#after he literally engineered this meeting between them#zen & shirayuki haven't been getting development like this either. like most of their story happened in the first 20 chapters#and every step forward they have Shirayuki tends to put a stop on a few seconds in#they haven't done FEELINGS stuff in so long. and meanwhile we're getting this big arc#of obi learning he has worth. that he has something to give her that isn't acting as Zen's tool or her bodyguard#like. the REUNION. the calling each other home. the date with canon tomomi where shirayuki (and zen) freak out over#shirayuki stopping to tell him that he looks good in firelight and following it up with how he's the reason#that she had the courage to stay at lilias. THE WHOLE FAKE DATING ARC. and now this???#we're getting a much bigger story with them. and as we've seen with mistuhide/kiki/hisame#she is looking not for easy ships but the story to get them there#could this still just be her developing an important platonic relationship? sure. but there's been a LOT of focus#on Obi's feelings for that to be the case#so WE'LL SEE
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I think the most baffling thing about the Tulpar as a vessel to me is the fact that the ship really did only have a one way communication system.
I know it was cheap but even the most basic of vessels regarding major transport would have some way, shape or form for outside communication. Not only that but there was absolutely no form of innate emergency signal to show they may have been offline or in trouble despite clearly having a system to dock credits if they went off course. It's another factor that really shows that bad situations are made to get worse by design. One person who is required to relay all information to the crew and make all the choices without feedback. No way to update or call for help in case of a dire situation. No way to inform of inner personal conflicts and acquire procedures accordingly.
It really is like they are all in some sort of fucked up solitary confinement. They have their own world with strict roles that are meaningless in the end, as long as the cargo makes it, it doesn't matter what happens on that ship to the company. They don't want to hear anything and will come to conclusions on what happened based on how much pay they can withhold from the workers. Even what they do send is short, sterile and corporate to the extent it was likely written and sent out with a command by some random unmanned computer in an office.
There's something to be said about how unfair it is to force absolute power and control onto one person when you as an entity could do so much more to offload it but I've said it many times before so I won't again.
#its just like idk i dont think Curly was a bad captain because we only have this scenerio and I certainly dont think a man like Swansea#would like him or have very little issues with him specifically if he was incompentent or too lienent in the past but I do think the stress#was making him worse and worse as being a present leader as it dawned on him how much he actually had to handle like I really think he#just wanted to do yknow normal captain pilot stuff and fly the ship and yknow the little stuff like make sure things run right and over tim#the constant stress and strain of having to make every major choice started to grate on him and freak him out cause they cant even fucking#eat unless he pulls out the scanner and starts cooking like he has to choose the meal likely or have a vote and i make that part of the#reason he seems so indecisive and inactive is the fact he has to make the choice all the time and he's hoping he can at least make the crew#feel a little more in control of themselves as people by staying out of affairs like the game or disputes because god he literally has to#choose for them all the time like thats a lot of responsibility monitering their sleep their breaks food consumption thats all on him like#it really should be another persons job entirely as thats almost like absoulte contrl over the lives of everyone else that PE forces onto#that title and its also crazy how everyone accepts it even if they dont like it like they broke the food machine open rather than get the#scanner they all waited two months before Jimmy appointed himself leader its so scary how conditioned they all are to the environemnt#cause that sort of mindset is sadly real where people just wait everyone just waited until it was getting real dire and then they still#followed Jimmy without too many complaints like i saw a fic or post where Anya acknowledges they all kinda just let Jimmy do what they want#because he became the captain and it was stupid on all their parts cause they could clearly see how bad he was and yet he was captain so#they just fell in line to their roles and thats a bigger point towards how PE treated them and the complacency capitalism brings to you#just like something that irks me because idk I know Curly is slow to act but he's not as like unopinionated as people make him out to be#like he does try to find solutions but they are still restricted at the end of the day by what PE provides them and I think his biggest c#crime is being in his own head too much and not giving Anya that emotional stability cause like idk man was he supposed to go to Home Depot#himself and install like padlocks? even if the let Anya sleep in medical after she pointed it out she was already pregnant at that point#like we arent seeing the inherent issue that no one not even Anya herself was thinking of the preventative measures because a)there was a#point nothing was happening that necessitated them b) it would've been the responsibility of PE to address them pre and post incident and c#there is only one person on the entire ship given the authority to do anything. You can not make multiple important choices in one instance#in such little time and Curly should not have had that total power like i think the most interesting thing in takes that really blame Curly#is that level of control they give him over the company. Like again i think about the three days we miss between the eval/party and the#convo/crash like i think people switch them around as if those scenes happen in succession when they are broken up and its heavily implied#Curly and Jimmy just havent been talking vs the depiction that she told him and for like three days Curly was just chummy despite the fact#Jimmy and him just had a blow out fight like the next time we assume they talk is during the crash sequence cause he honestly hangs#around Anya more which i think is really important because she trust Curly to defend her himself but not his judgement to give her somethin#to defend herself as she knows he believes her but also knows she's not seeing the danger the same and its heartbreaking and more
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waaaaa they took away my male lead in the Only Straights Show from 2-3 seasons from now and made him a girl for some sort of WOKE AGENDA they're changing my badly written misogynist book series woe is me we need more straight rep!!! this is because i like their story not for any other reason!!! i'm bi as well!!! more straight romance!!!! no nonconformity!!!! the books!!!!!!!
#bridgerton#bridgerton spoilers#can y'all shut up they're doing something interesting#so the motivations behind the romance will have to change and? if ur so desperate for the book read it#isn't it interesting to you being given alternate stories?#'what about the estate what about the want for a child being the only reason she wanted to remarry'#what about sapphic guilty pining huh. don't we deserve something too? like brimsley/reynolds did not get a happy ending#its almost guaranteed that benedict's bisexuality will be brushed aside again (as much as it will still be part of him#i really feel that they will ignore it after he meets sophie)#i feel like francesca was the best story to do this to#because the core of guilty pining and hell they can still have her looking for a husband so she can have a child!! and michaela loving he#and knowing she can't ever give fran what she wants but still staying by her side like isn't that compelling!!!!#whatever. don't contact me abt this so many people being upset abt this as if this show was ever more than a loose adaptation#ratspeaks#the only valid concerns are the ones worried abt the actress being harassed
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I like to think that Gorgug hangs out with the seven the way Zelda hangs out with the bad kids. You know that horrible awkward feeling where you only know one person at a party? It’s like that but everyone else at the party is inseparable and they keep teasing you (in a good-natured way) with jokes you don’t understand, and all you can do is smile and nod and try so hard not to embarrass yourself in front of these people you perceive as way too cool for you.
#every adventure group has to have a weird guy who dates a weird guy that’s just how it goes#please oh my god the seven going ‘way to step up Gorgug!!!’ when he calls Zelda from Sylvaire#the fact that they love Zelda does not give Gorgug a single ounce of immunity from being teased#and Zelda showing up at Mordred for moving day#and all the bad kids just accept her being there no problem#like clearly they hang out at least a little#please I really really need someone to write something about them it’s hurting me#save me the seven. save me. the seven please. save me.#I need more content of them so so bad I am STARVED#part of the reason I want donospring to stay good friends so badly is because of this idea#weird ex girlfriends and their respective friend groups that mix just a little#fantasy high#the seven#the seven maidens#d20#d20 fantasy high#d20 the seven#zelda donovan#gorgug thistlespring#donospring#txt post
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I am alone on this barren earth (Jason Todd liker and Mia Dearden liker who honestly thinks issues 69-72 of the 2001 Green Arrow run are fun and good and would really like to talk about them beyond "Jason Todd was ooc and irredeemable there because he was trauma-dumping on Mia but also everything he said was fake and made up and he was manipulating her to become his sidekick and he blew up her school in retaliation because she didn't so really we should ignore the whole comic as bad writing /or agree he should just be read as an sadistic sidekick killer" (None of which is true and over half of which is directly stated to be false in the comic's text) but all people ever have to say about the comic is weird wrong takes about the three pages in which the gym fight happens ripped out of the very interesting and fun surrounding context)
#i truly do wonder why we're always going the least interesting route interpretation-wise even when it directly contradicts canon#why have complex characters making complex points through off methods when we can have boring ones clearly labeled as good and evil#maybe if i wanted to talk about this i should have been alive in 2001 but like. we still talk about it today we just don't say anything fun#maybe. just maybe. there's a reason the panels go directly from jason letting go of mia and stepping back#to mia escaping and going “i escaped”#“unless ofc he let me go”#that is not jason making an attempt on her life (because this didn't happen we see him let go)#mia wasn't even his secondary goal he just took her to make a completely unrelated point and decided to have a convo while he was at it#jason having the capability to end it but letting mia go vs joker pretending to give jason an out and taking it away (locked door)#except in both jason ends up staying in the building#i know we don't like n52 rhato but the roy jason discussion in the Bruce-Ollie convo make me think they could have been done well#but that's not my point#i just feel like some of you guys are too quick to take an interesting comic and toss it out because one thing happens that you dont like#kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater#i wish we saw more of mia dealing with the repercussions of their convo i want to know more of what she was thinking#green arrow 2001#jason todd#this isn't mainly about mia's character so i'm not gonna block her tag up with this
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She wished the Rush would rise and wash the whole city away, Flea Bottom and the Red Keep and the Great Sept and everything, and everyone too, especially Prince Joffrey and his mother. But she knew it wouldn't, and anyhow Sansa was still in the city and would wash away too. When she remembered that, Arya decided to wish for Winterfell instead. (ACOK I, Arya)
Isn't it funny that in the very first book Arya thinks about something bad happening to the people she hates, realizes that someone she cares about could get hurt in the process, and instead decides to focus on wishing for home? I just think that's a neat character moment for her 😁
#arya stark#asoiaf#game of thrones#it's almost like...it's almost like Arya has never once prioritized getting revenge over returning to her family and home#and that's been a core aspect of her character since the very beginning!#she hasn't ever actively hunted down anyone on her list or thought that she needs to stay with the FM so she can get revenge and YET!#she gets no satisfaction from Joffrey's death because her family is still dead and YET!#idk I just think it's so funny that the reason people have for her being consumed with revenge are easily disproved by the book#sucks that people are too lazy to read the books themselves and come up with their own theories instead of repeating popular fanon#she can't even give up her morals and identity when she thinks her /pack/ is gone she's def not going to when she knows they're alive
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they uhh have an awful lot of redeeming-the-gods to do (poseidon & athena specifically) in the next 4 episodes if they want people to actually believe percy doesn't side with luke at the end of the season...like you can't dial percy's anger up to a fucking 17 and then make it make sense when he doesn't go with luke if you don't make the gods (poseidon) more likable. the neraid scene in ep 4 did a bit of poseidon redeeming but the convo percy and poseidon have in ep 7/8 better be fucking INTENSE and have a lot of poseidon blabbering on abt sally and percy if they want percy's choice to be believable
#just thinking thoughts#like fr poseidon better lay it on thickkkkkkk#and sallys gotta play her part too when percy goes home before going back to camp#give me the motherfucking posally because they're THE REASON percy stays on the gods side the entire way through pjo#if poseidon didn't talk about sally the way he did. if sally didn't talk abt poseidon the way she did...percy WOULDN'T have sided w the god
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train wasn't delayed more than usual AND i got a pretty girl's luggage off the train for her... 10/10 polish railway experience
#lmao there was this dude hovering behind me and her near the entrance as we waited for the train to stop#and as soon as i offered to take her things he was like 'i'll take it!'#didn't even dignify that with a response didn't even look in his direction :)#she wanted me to take the smaller one she was like 'the other one is so heavy :( '#context: she was shorter than me and Very slim#i was like nah i'll take it!#reader. i think she had a body in there <3#anyway really regret leaving her at the station with just a smile and not asking if he wanted further help#but frankly i wanted to get home and pee ajffhh#also regret not giving her a wink but that surely would have been an overkill......#also i always worry how that comes across when you're total strangers :/#anyway it was a rolling suitcase so hopefully she made it out alright and called a taxi or sth#all of this to say. Why is flirting so easy when i don't mean anything by it dear god.......#soon as i like someone it's like 😐 five minutes of silence. low chuckle. 😐 'i think the weather forecast said it might. rain today. 😐.'#another reason why i'm staying single forever thank you .
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crying myself to sleep im so sorry they cut you out atsuko they couldn't handle the cunt you were serving im so sorry but i know i saw you cheer on your son during the dark tourney i saw you hold onto a dying puu i was there i know
#like do i understand atsuko slander ofc yeah she's a shitty neglectful mom#but i love her sooooo much you have to understand#and you miss out on sm if you didn't read the manga cos for some reason she was basically ejected from the anime#considering yyh isn't exactly fuckin feminist im so grateful for the main girls they do have#then again they're all done incredibly dirty all the time#if i start on keiko I'll never stop don't piss me offfffff this media didn't deserve her let alone yusuke of all mfs#shizuru i love you smmmm yyh should've been about you instead#atsuko who doomed her child because how can one learn to love himself when his mother only practiced self loathing#atsuko who im giving the world's sweetest smooch to because you were only 14#you could've given up but you stayed and you did it and you did it BAD. you did it bad and you love that you did#i cant even talk about yukina cos yeah. me when i introduce a character that has complex relationships with other ppl#but i refuse to give her agency and personality and depth#fuck man. botan really did get the lion's share of screen time#do you have any idea how stoked i am that botan exists#main cast NO OFFICIAL LOVE INTEREST just chilling#no stupid ass love triangle she genuinely just doesn't seem interested in men i LOVE HERRRRRRR#botan hit yusuke with your oar again i wasn't recording the first time <3 love her ough#but yeah once i write that spirit detective shizuru au it's over for you bitches#yu yu hakusho#head in my hands atsuko marry meeeeee i promise i wont try to fix you (lie)
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a handful of oc concepts
#hm i should make an original art tag#star wars#star wars oc#sw ocs#my ocs#togruta#tholothian#chagrian#tusken#ahkat mal#pelot lamin#sahnaa deven#ghaar'ak'tatoo#i. had fun with sahnaa's colors#i wasn't even gonna give her so much detail but then i thought what if she had a thing to mimic a long head tail.#and then i thought what if the thing included a veil to cover her eyes. for no reason just to look fancy. and then. there we are.#for the record her eyes are the same color as the base of her horns#also. she's the only one who is not (explicitly) a force-sensitive here..... sorry girl. you got fancy clothes as compensation.#i have been thinking about the concept of a tusken space nomad for a while which is why ghaar' is the most detailed of these#its metals are bronze because i think it looks prettier. also the blue rust goes well with the rest of its design#and it collects sands because sand art is a big tourist attraction where i live and i think it's cool and pretty#i'm filling their bedroom with bottles of sand in every color possible. i'm giving them a beautiful wall of sand. <3#pelot is. a manifestation of my love of blue accent in dark colors. and brown eyes <3#ahkat.... is just because i think togrutas look fun to draw. so i drew one#i have no idea what to do of him tbh. which is why the question mark. he looks too impulsive to stay a jedi
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Here's the thing about season 3. Nothing was a secret. There was no lining or buildup. They cleared up the miscommunication in episode 4 and she stood by breaking up with him anyways.
From there, just like I say about Will's feelings being unreciprocated, the problem is unactionable, so there's no lesson and nothing for us to root for.
Mike wants to get back together with El. She knows that. Nothing happens.
The L bomb was dropped as a false sense of momentum, because there actually wasn't any because him not saying it wasn't the problem so it shouldn't be the solution. Usually you have pining. Think the full season breakup story they did the following season:
There was pining. There was investment from US. Because there was setup for confession. Because something was withheld to be revealed. "You know I really like you but you don't know I love you" does not count. Lucas didn't know Max wanted to get back together. They had been broken up long enough and Lucas was respectful enough that Max couldn't be sure either. That setup investment for the notes passing scene. That set up his NERVES in it. That set up me being excited when I saw their first kiss in her 4x04 happy memories sequence. And satisfied to have predicted the Snow Ball as her happiest memory. If Max had known he definitely wanted to get back together as soon as she was ready again and wasn't going to move on at all, there would be no stakes.
Mike wanted to be with El. Then she didn't want to be with him. She can't have the nerves of confessing to him she wants to get back together because she already knows he does. He can't have the nerves of confessing he wants to because he already has. And they didn't establish them as friends solidly or for long enough like they did by establishing that Lucas and Max had ALREADY broken up as opposed to a 6 day breakup arc to make it so that they became unsure of what they once knew to me true of getting back together. Severity of wording changed and El loves romantic tropes in movies so it had influence but really:
Mike had no information to add that El didn't already have. El had nothing stopping her giving Mike information as soon as she had it. There were no stakes. So I didn't care. Whatever happened, cute. That was my thought process. But I had no real investment anymore, unlike when they were building to confession or fighting to get back to each other, because I knew as soon as she wanted to get back together they just automatically would be. So if you, like you were meant to, believed that Mike loved El and knew that she knew that, that scene where she said it back was cute. But not satisfying.
There is nothing to be resolved. We're watching events take place sequentially. Because when there are no stakes, there's no real goal either. Mike invented one for himself because he was uncomfortable with the idea of how comfortable he was broken up.
Tldr: Mike and El's relationship had no secrets and therefore no stakes or opportunity for confession in season 3. El telling Mike she loved him was cute, but not a "confession". Because, just like Mike telling her he loves her in 4x09, if we (think we) know how the other person is feeling and will react, we can't at all invest in the feelings of nervousness or satisfaction that the confessor is feeling.
Season 3 and 4 uninvested us by feigning plots in which they gave us no new information. And bored us. If you know exactly how a scene will play out all but exact wording, you will space out because you can. A writer never wants you to be able to space out and miss nothing. (Until they don't want you to miss what's happening when they take it away)
#elmike pacing#stranger things#THAT'S how they uninvested people I GET IT NOW#they didn't give them plots#they just pretended to#first watch#but i vividly remember when they broke up thinking it was super satisfying but i'd stay onboard with the ship because i knew they would get#back together#consistently every viewer knew exactly what was going to happen#in season 4 i was hopeful for lum@x but not certain#which made me all the more invested#if it's gonna happen whether you want it to or not then when you want it to there's no further reason to shout at your tv for it to hapoen#you can sit back#you can take a nap#trusting that when you wake uo it will have happened#you are approving but uninvested because the outcome is obvious#why? because you have been (supposedly) given all information on both sides#and the characters have as well#so there's no intrigue#el knew mike wanted her back#mike knew she didnt because she hadnt gotten back together with him despite knowing he wanted to#okay so we're literally just sitting here then#the duffer brothers#subversion#elmike season 3#narrative analysis
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