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estheticpotaeto · 2 months ago
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Being a 911 stan is crazy how do you explain to anyone else that yeah.
Ofc they broke up, Buck was wearing green,
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And Ofc Buck is gonna get shot, Eddie's wearing white
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momowoah · 4 months ago
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Only focusing on gay Eddie and buddie probably going canon this season because if I spend more than three consecutive seconds thinking about what they're doing to henren I will go insane 🙏
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byemambo · 4 months ago
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4Minutes EP. 6 - My Takeaways
Y'all...The way I was working OVERTIME trying to figure out how I wanted to explain my thoughts for this episode (this post is extremely long: take that as you will). So please welcome OG TymeGreat vs. NDE (near death experience) TymeGreat and their timelines (everything else under the cut!):
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Great Version
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Tyme Version
Key Events: Assessing the Timelines
I listed out key events that I felt matched up within each existing timeline (and I'm sure I missed more key events/details that aren't listed in my findings), no matter the person nor alternative reality they're in. For Great's timeline, the key events include:
Waking up to take his exam
Hitting Manee with his car
Receiving the call from Title
Korn being attacked
Great learns Tyme's identity as the attacker
Great confronting Tyme at the hospital the next day
Great confronting his parents for their crimes
Great renounces his ties to his family
While these events occurred regardless of the different decisions Great could make, what was striking to me was Great's distinct characteristics that existed in both timelines while also having characteristics individual to their respective timelines. For OG Great, he's extremely defiant and cynical, especially if he's able to get a rise out of his father for reasons prior to knowing about the business, I'm not exactly sure (except for him being the mistress's son before the first wife committed suicide).
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 1
Given that we didn't get any scenes of him bonding with Korn throughout the episode unlike NDE Great, I can only imagine there's a bias towards Korn as the favorite son between the two where one listens and submits while the other vocal and disobeys. Along with being defiant and having the guts to gauge the wold with cockiness, he is also a coward that's easily persuaded and manipulated. This shows up most during scenes like the hit and run or when Title demanded Great to help get rid of Dome's body and in turn, become an accomplice to the crime.
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 1
OG Great also operates on this mindset of being silver spooned his entire life more explicitly than NDE Great, and becomes hot headed when placed under immense pressure once he's unable to play mind games with his targets such as Tyme. Even though their hook up and Tyme leaking his sex tape caused a scandal with his dad's company, the amount of trauma Great has dealt with growing up (this kid never played a crane machine game so I can only imagine how lonely his upbringing was) resorts to him chasing after those dopamine hits and becoming shameless as a result.
One of the few times OG Great chose his own morals and acted upon them in the storyline was when he found out about his parents and their involvement with the scheme, but this decision only occurred when people he cared about died or got hurt, like Nan and Tyme. Because he had developed a short spanned codependency on Tyme (whether for more sex or because he found his serious demeanor amusing), once he had been left with nothing due to reasons beyond his control, he leaves his family behind after the confirmation of their crimes.
Unlike NDE Great, OG Great is self centered and only acts when pushed beyond his limits, but only if the consequences of that limit involves someone he genuinely cares about (this is the stark difference between Dome's demise versus Tyme's meltdown after Nan's death). Sure, people can argue that Great knows Tyme at a similar level of depth like he knew Dome (apart from being sexually involved with one another), but his interests peaks in Tyme once he finds out that he's seeking revenge against his father and finds that mere effort entertaining for him. In the OG timeline, Great's flaws directly causes his detriment in the end, getting shot by Dome's older brother Tonkla in vengeance.
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 5
In Tyme's timeline, there aren't as many moving parts that we saw on screen as much as Great's (since their particular story is limited narrative through Great's perspective) but these events remain consistent in his story:
Tyme works a hospital shift
Den tells him about his NDE research
Tyme works the night shift with Great in his proximity
Tyme attacks Korn in search of Nan
Great confronts Tyme at the hospital the next day
What I found most interesting in OG Tyme's timeline was how linear and straightforward the events occurred in sequence, which would have been the case if Great never asked him about his occurring NDE symptoms like he did in the NDE timeline while being under Tyme's care. Tyme's prior knowledge to Den's research served as a seed planted in the back of his mind, which if Great hadn't asked him (if he chose to help Title get rid of Dome's body), Tyme would have went along with his plan and shelved Den's research with no intention in intervention. The difference in approach between OG Tyme and NDE Tyme was rooted in their initial encounters, both being Great bumping into Tyme and how it was handled.
If Great continued heading his way, Tyme's initial impression of Great would have been slightly annoyed (which we saw a preview of how he yelled at Great during the first cardiac arrest Great had when he bumped into Tyme and didn't help him). But if Great stopped to apologize and even help Tyme with the papers, there is a hint of consideration in that gesture, even if Great himself is a flawed person capable of doing bad things. For some, basic human decency isn't a mind blowing trait for people to fawn over, but this can be contrasted when Tyme asks P'Anne for his information and finally gets confirmation of Great's identity.
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 1
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 3
From the perspective of Tyme who's dedicated his personal life in bringing down the family responsible for the death of his parents, I'm sure having a painted image of what inhumane and vulgar things the family is capable of, Great's first impression as the younger son of the enemy is somehow normal? As if this man isn't capable of hurting a fly, let alone killing people like his father does (why did I think of fucking Lord Ozai and Prince Zuko when proofreading this loooooord someone send me to bed asap). Rather than treating Great as just a means to an end with no prior attachment and full intent in harming the family's reputation as OG Tyme would have, NDE Tyme's prior interactions with Great by him helping Tyme with his papers (the readiness to correct his faults while providing a solution to aid in the damage caused, big or small), Great bringing his hurt friend to the hospital without acknowledging his own injuries (a sign of selflessness and reliability) and asking Tyme about his symptoms related to his cardiac arrests and moments of NDE, there are layers being shed off of Tyme's preconceived notions about the family.
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Episode 2
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Episode 6
Not only are there layers, Tyme's curiosity peaks because why is the son of the family who killed his parents seemingly harmless and clumsy? Shouldn't someone of his background be more cautious and conceal himself more, especially when speaking to a stranger such as Tyme? Does he know what his parents do and the damage they have caused for countless families and victims? In comparison to OG Great who's callous and bold, NDE Great is soft and easily startled, therefore, needs a more calculative and somewhat honest approach to secure a connection to get closer to bringing the family down.
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 3
Characterization: A vs. B
When writing my reflections, I found it interesting how TymeGreat's relationship develops within their respective timelines, especially how each encounter they had with one another fueled different emotions and residual feelings. In the OG timeline, their relationship is innately lustful with distance between them, their main objectives involve concealed vengeance, amusement in the series of events occurring between them and not being able to access the full story of the two worlds both individuals were a part of before their paths crossed.
Whereas in the NDE timeline, their relationship began with a curiosity that defied expectations and welcomed communication, such as asking intimate questions and offering valuable solutions to majority of their problems: Great asking Tyme about his cardiac symptoms, Tyme consulting Den about his research after Great's conversation, Great confiding in Tyme about his upbringing, Tyme revealing the cause of his parents' death, Great confronting his own family for their crimes and seeking accountability. All of these traits wouldn't have been present if that initial hit and run played out differently: they would have crossed paths regardless but their attitudes and motives would shape the state of their relationship.
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 3
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Episode 6 vs. Episode 5
However, there are innate traits that remained consistent in both characters. Great with his impulsivity and tackling his problems head strong, Tyme with his nonchalance and caring attitude towards the people he loves (such as his grandmother). What really caused the divergence of their whims were purely based in the circumstances they find themselves in during their initial encounters. When they met at the bar, Great's impulsivity charged the motion of their relationship, ending with his cowardice separating the two once Nan died at the hands of Samarn. Tyme's detached attitude that drove his girlfriend away from him and poses concern from Den as a fellow doctor in how he denies his patients of their own identity and autonomy, causes him to take advantage of Great's relations to the family, ending in his own death after denying the bribe by Great's father.
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Episode 6
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Episode 6
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Episode 1
Despite it all, the most significant element that both Tyme and Great share is the leverage both have over one another through their emotional attachments, which may seem small in comparison to more flashy events within the storyline but for these two characters: it makes a world of a difference. When NDE Tyme reveals his identity during the ambush against Korn, which led Great to help Tyme find Nan and as a result, saving her life. This is critical as OG Great is inherently a coward with a dopamine deficiency and enjoys causing trouble for his father's reputation at his own demise.
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Episode 4
When Tyme is willing to risk his life exposing Great's family to the press, Great reminds him of his grandmother, driving Tyme to accept the bribe from Great's dad and find safety at Aunt Ging's house together. Unlike OG Tyme, whose reserved and passive attitude enables his life to be filled with the absurd and mundane, that money is the driving force of life and the root of all evil that took his parents away from him, so what else is there to live for as long as he avenges his family?
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Episode 5
Now for my questions for the last two episodes: if Great dies in the OG timeline and is actively dying in the NDE timeline, since Tyme's destined fate to die in the OG timeline has been altered once he's notified of Great's condition in the emergency room by Den, he has a chance of avoiding death that OG Tyme suffers from. It may be a stretch but look at the two hit men who targeted Tyme and Great.
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Episode 1 vs. Episode 5
The hit man in episode 1 look significantly younger than the hit man in episode 5, but same facial hair? The shadow in the first image throws me off but it's freaky to speculate as it sent shivers down my spine whenever I got a better screenshot of them. If I put my two brain cells together: in the OG timeline, Tonkla targets and shoots Great but Tyme is also shot in episode 1, which makes me believe that their timelines are converging somehow as both of them enter their 4 minutes of limbo and their memories and experiences are warped.
In the NDE timeline, because Dome is saved and returns home to Tonkla, the only person reasonable in targeting Great would be Manee after she finds out which family is responsible for her son's involvement in illegal business (which her giving up her life savings and being given the 4th card during her ritual that calls for separation of loved ones). This separation in question is the separation of Tyme from Great as Great's fighting for his vitals to stabilize just as Tyme rushes to the OR?
Because NDE Tyme goes with his grandmother to Aunt Ging's instead of sending her on her own as OG Tyme does, both of them are technically off the radar from being targeted, or at least bought enough time to make a safe escape if Great's father goes back on his word outlined in the proposed bribe. Seeing as Tyme's wearing the same shirt in both timelines at this point, we're now waiting to see how this will play out, and I'm literally so excited to lose sleep all over again.
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Episode 1 vs. Episode 6
If you made it to the end, pat yourself on the back! And if you've been actively reading my previous posts regarding my takeaways, I really appreciate the love they've been getting! I'm more than happy to hyperfixate on this series and help out with really digging deep in the details that could help those who are having difficulty following along with the series. Idk, y'all got to yell at Bible on Twitter then because he thinks he's so funny tweeting this:
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lover-of-mine · 2 months ago
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what are your thoughts on nde for either eddie or buck in 8x08? me personally, im thinking buck is gonna get the nde, and i think he’s gonna be shot. tim recreating s4/5 when he originally wanted to do buddie, but what im thinking, is buck realizes his feelings for eddie but doesn’t want to/doesn’t know if he should tell him, then he gets shot and it’s all dramatic and eddie is there and freaking out, trying to save him and keep him alive (aka why they’re pushing medic eddie so much this season) and buck realizes this might be his last chance so he just goes for it anyway and while he’s bleeding out he tells eddie he loves him😭 i know this is probably not what’s gonna happen but lol i just enjoy theories and i always love to hear what you think!
adding onto this, i ALSO saw around twitter the theory that buck would get a nde, but he gets hit by a car or just in a car accident in general, and eddie is there and it parallels shannon’s death (obviously buck doesn’t die but you get the memo😆)
Hi, darling! Okay, I don't mean to shit on anyone's specs, but I think either of them getting shot again would be so uninspired. The show is slowly reintroducing new ways to pull the triggers they put down for buddie because they need to address the stuff that happened to them somehow, but a direct mirrored parallel to the shooting wouldn't work as well as everyone seems to think it would. Partially because I think that forcing Buck to confess because he (or Eddie) is dying is yet another way to take away Buck's agency and further attach Buck to the idea he's only worthy of love when someone bleeds. But also because putting one of them in the position to be doing the saving again won't really further their storyline. Eddie watched Buck in a nde twice, the bombing and the lightning, and Buck watched Eddie in a nde twice, the well and the shooting, and I think they need a combined trigger, aka a combined nde.
I am attached to my drown Buck theory, have them off duty, crash the car, end up trapped and the car filling with water, but I also think that the trapped dads theory also works a lot here, especially if you put them both in the situation while off duty, aka without gear or backup, and you can play with a lot of elements of every nde before that and create a catalyst for them to talk and figure themselves out. I also think everyone is getting ahead of themselves, I don't think they are in the place to get that catalyst yet, and 2 episodes are not enough to get them there when we are talking about an ensemble show. I feel like people are expecting a direct callback because we got a well callback and are getting a lightning callback, but while buddie was front and center during the well callback, they actually used it to further Chim at first. It works to get the audience thinking about different aspects of their past, which in turn makes it so that when they talk about it, it will be in our minds, but it doesn't explicitly address the implications with buddie. I think the lightning callback will be a lot about reminding Buck of whatever it was that he was supposed to learn with it the first time around that they never truly explored due to the network switch and Natalia not coming back. I also think that confronting the situation where Buck almost died and possibly watching a freshly heartbroken Buck be impulsive can push Eddie to look at some stuff that would push him into action to figure himself out.
Especially if @stagefoureddiediaz ends up right and the lightning callback ends up being a truck bombing callback too since the well callback is also a subtle callback to the kids on the cliff call in 304 and could be played into different directions when it comes to what comes out from it moving forward. Buddie has a lot to talk about, but they need a reason to think about the stuff they need to talk about on their own before getting to a point where they can actually have those conversations. I think they rely too much on how well they understand each other that they fail to consider the way they can't actually read each other's minds, and figuring that part out is important before pushing them to the catalyst. And please don't get me wrong, I'm like, 90% sure that the catalyst will be another nde, I just don't think it's gonna happen until 8b.
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bam-bi-buck · 2 months ago
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As today is the Fall Finale for 911 Lonestar & Thursday is the Fall Finale for 911 & Doctor Odyssey I feel like we’re all gonna get for punched in the gut with a bunch of Near Death Experiences (NDE) this week
*Correction - 911 LS Fall Finale is Dec 2nd (however I could still see a NDE happening tonight based on the promo so we’ll see) Ty abazoochyk for the correction 🙏🏻
For Lonestar I’m theorizing one of the following:
1) The soup man (we know he gets shot from the promo)
2) Carlos - he’s supposed to be getting a major clue this episode regarding his father’s murderer which
A) could cause a target on his back
B) cause him to do something reckless and get hurt
3) TK
A) we know he’s in the house where Campbell gets shot with the other Rangers so he could take a bullet meant for someone else (probably Carlos if this is the case but could be another member of the 126 or a Ranger as well)
B) to follow up on Carlos maybe putting a target on his back, they could decide to go after TK as a warning for Carlos
For 911
In the promo we saw Eddie & Buck trying to free the two people stuck in the car that’s filling up with water
Both Eddie and Buck have a history with water, they’ve been doing a LOT of call backs this season, & they highlighted Chris’s love for water
So NDE could be
1) Buck or Eddie in the car
2) Buck and Eddie in the car
3) Plot twist - Chris in Texas has a NDE with water
4) Buck &/or Eddie in the car, survive - get a call about Chris
5) Bobby - Brad is obsessed with him, could accidentally hurt him trying to “help” or in anger if he’s not getting the attention he wants
6) Buck, Brad’s obsession with Bobby leads him to hurting Buck
7) Athena, Sparks loses his mind and goes after Athena
8) Chimney, he’s happy with his family expanding and he was worried about something happening to Maddie so surprise twist! he’s the one in danger instead
9) Hen - hasn’t had one since the 911 / 911 LS crossover I believe, maybe this episode is gonna gun for her just for that?
For Doctor Odyssey
1) Op in this post, Cassodre made an excellent argument for why Tristan is going to have a NDE as he’s not seen in the infirmary when Max & Avery are twice
2) Avery had appendicitis & Tristan got carbon monoxide poisoning so it could be Max’s turn and Tristan’s absence in the promo is a red herring
What I’m most worried about is not the potential NDEs themselves exactly (if there are any I already know it’s gonna make me 😵‍💫 so I’m prepared lol) but if there is any (or even multiple) NDEs that are not resolved by the end of the episode and we’ll have to wait THREE MONTHS to find out what happens (for 911 & DO)… 🫨🫨🫨
Anyways I’m really to be a wreck this week : )
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beecauseevan · 16 days ago
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December 2024
Eddie looks at Buck's pale face, at those slack lips, not a trace left of that charming smile. He looks at Buck until he can't stand it any longer, until he has to get up. The window next to Buck's bed overlooks the hospital entrance, bedazzled with golden Christmas lights that wink up at Eddie, almost mockingly. Eddie stares at them until they project themselves on the inside of his lids every time he closes his eyes, and tries not to remember arriving at that entrance, just a few days ago, out of breath and desperate because Buck—Buck was dying. 
Eddie still can't wrap his head around it, doesn't understand how that call went from bad to so much worse. All he really knows is that it was dark, and Buck, standing next to him, was ranting about light pollution to keep the horror at bay. They were responding to a crash on the freeway, bloody but sadly routine, and Eddie was looking at the side of Buck's face when a shot shattered the night, a deafening explosion, bright like a lightning strike. A jerk went through Buck, slamming his body into Eddie's side, and Eddie caught him, heart hammering in his chest, because he could taste metal on his tongue, blood, and it wasn't his own. 
Later, Athena told him that it was the same drunk driver who caused the pileup, that he must have had a gun in his car. Eddie doesn't remember any of it. 
He remembers Buck's wide eyes, though, how hot his blood was against Eddie's palm when Eddie pressed his hands to the hole in his chest. Hot unlike Buck's fingers, which were cool and pale in the darkness where they settled on Eddie's cheek. 
"Now we match."
He remembers that too, the way Buck struggled to get it out through trembling lips, and he remembers yelling at Buck to wake up when he slipped away, consciousness leaving his body along with the crimson clinging to Eddie's skin, because those couldn't be Buck's last words, that's so stupid, Buck, Buck, Buck—
He doesn't want to miss another moment of Christopher's life, doesn't want to watch him grow up on an iPad screen the way he did when he was in the army, and Chris is, and always will be, his top priority. 
But he doesn't want to leave. LA is his home. This team is his family. El Paso has Chris but it also has his parents, and it doesn't have Bobby or Hen or Chim or Ravi, and it doesn't have /Buck/. Eddie loves Chris and he will respect his choice and he will uproot his life here to be close to him and he will do so gladly, but he knows he won't ever feel at home in El Paso, not truly. He'll sacrifice his happiness for Christopher's in a heartbeat, and he will never regret it. 
Until now, though, he thought that's all he was sacrificing. He thought—not consciously, because he couldn't let himself go there, but deep down—he thought Buck would be just fine. 
Eddie takes a deep, shuddering breath, and blinks away the sting in his eyes. 
Maybe he was wrong about that. If he hadn't been there...  
Someone coughs behind him. Rough and broken and wonderfully, marvelously, undeniably alive. 
Written for the @911countdowntochristmas - this was supposed to be 24 drabbles but the Buddie NDE speculation going around pre 8x08 inspired me and now it’s a 24-mini-chaptered fic instead. And definitely more hurt/comfort than fluff. Oops.
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chheese-mmmhh · 2 months ago
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everybody praying for another nde for buck next episode is so funny😭😭😭but you know what? hit him with lightning again…let HIM get shot this time eddie style
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morganski-19 · 2 months ago
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So I'm thinking about the NDE's again, and I have some new thoughts.
Someone threw me an ask a while ago saying that there was the idea going around that Denny's accident would be an allusion to Buck being pinned by the engine, and I'm not so sure anymore.
The more I think about it, the more it reminds me of Shannon's death.
The 118 gets called to a car accident where they are none the wiser that their loved one was the one that was hit. It is up to the crew, and therefore, that person to save them. They make a risky decision, both to get some more time. Either to say goodbye or, in general, to have more time to live with them. Then, one of them gets saved, and the other didn't. The history was rewritten.
Then with the well in ep 6, it was also different. They sent another boy down to get his brother, and they were able to get both of them out safely. The history was rewritten.
And with the actor on the rig, it didn't really show how they saved him specifically other than just waking it up, but if the rig was broken, they probably had to pull him up the hard way. The way Eddie tried to when Buck was struck by lightning. The history was rewritten.
Personally, I don't think Sparks' shot was alluding to the sniper. I think that any of the redo NDE's are only considered such when they happen on a call the 118 is called to. So I think that is still a big one that has to happen.
There was also that shot from the promo where Buck and Eddie are trying to save that family in the drowning car. That specific scenario reminded me of two instances. One, the plane crash emergency in season 1 where Bobby almost got trapped in the sinking plane, while trying to save a mother (which looked to be the same in the promo), and that one save the team did in the tsunami with the boat, where they saved the son and the groom. Both of these instances had one member of the team almost get stuck, but they got out in the last second. It makes me wonder if that is where they are going with this emergency.
Do I think this means anything in the long run, not really. I kinda think that they are just fucking with us at this point. Especially since there was that actor with the rebar in his skull. But, let's just pretend that this means something.
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iconicbuck · 2 months ago
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Many centuries ago when Buck was wallowing after the embolism when Bobby won't allow him yet to go back to work, Eddie dropped Christopher to help him look after him. To accompany him.
Then the tsunami happned.
Years later, Buck is seen wallowing again. This time due to a break up and cooking and baking unhealthy amounts of loafs as his coping mechanism, Maddie dropped Jee Yun to babysit him. To accompany him!
Then what now? At what cost? Is it the Buck getting shot theory? Another pile of Buck NDE as Season 8A cliffhanger?
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blazeeblake · 2 months ago
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Senseless, unqualified rambling incoming:
I don’t pretend to know what direction anything is going with regards to Buddie callbacks, or whose “turn” it is to have something life-threatening and traumatic happen in the silly wee-woo show, but by my estimation, here’s the tale of the tape so far, so to speak (and I 100% could be missing a few instances, so feel free to [gently] call me out if I do):
Season 2
- Truck explosion crushes Buck’s leg. To my knowledge no call back to this but maybe some behind the scenes hints of it, and I do think it would be interesting for this to be revisited in a flipped way (ie: instead of Car accident that maims Buck➡️ Buddie grocery store drama, they do Buddie drama➡️ Car accident that maims Buck)
Season 3
*Tsunami endangers Buck and Christopher. I don’t know if this counts in the overall NDE/injury tally because even though Buck’s life was in danger (especially because of the whole blood thinners thing), this was largely about Christopher going missing and Buck trying to rectify this and not fail his BFF. I don’t think we’re going to get a call back to this moment unless something goes down in the process of Christopher coming back home, and I have no guesses on the timing of that resolution.
-Well/tunnel collapse almost kills Eddie. We’ve already had a callback to this as of 8x06, and can safely rule this incident out as something revisited directly upon the boys. ✅
Season 4
-Eddie gets shot in probably one of the most tragically iconic Buddie moments to date. No callbacks as of yet but definitely a possibility going forward. Could be that it would be revisited in a way that jogs Eddie’s memory of that day (or forces him to admit he remembers more than he lets on 👀), and/or threatens Buck’s life this time around, just because I don’t think they would full on repeat the circumstances of something this formative/important to the canon.
Season 5
-Eddie and Buck are held hostage by escaped prisoners, and ultimately Eddie alone is held at gunpoint in the ambulance. This isn’t really a serious injury or NDE situation, so much like the tsunami, I don’t know if it belongs on this list or has any revisiting potential.
Season 6
-Buck is struck by lightning in yet another shockingly (sorry) memorable Buddie-flavored disaster. From the previews, it looks like we’re getting all visual callback to this next week, which should be interesting but also likely rules it out as something that’s going to directly impact/threaten either firefighter. ✅
-Alongside Bobby, Chim, & Hen, Eddie is injured in a bridge collapse. Again, not exactly an NDE and one could argue that Chimney and Bobby were in way more danger than Eddie, but I think the parallels of it all (Maddie, Athena and Buck trying to save their partners from a life threatening catastrophe…) are worth mentioning. That said, I don’t think this one was major enough to come back to in the near future.
If everything on this list “counts,” even in spite of my doubts, they’re both about even with life threatening situations above and beyond the typical expectations of firefighter endangerment, with about two really major situations apiece (truck explosion & lightning strike vs. well collapse & shooting). I don’t know if the order of all those things matters/will be taken into account in terms of which one of them is at risk for a new NDE or trauma, and honestly I think if it’s going to happen at all it’ll come down to who most needs that kind of push to have a breakthrough.
It could be argued that it’s Eddie’s turn since Buck’s lightning strike was the most recent actual NDE, and that newly single Buck could use the wake up call of almost losing the person who checks all the boxes Josh listed. There’s also the Christopher of it all (maybe Eddie almost dying will bring up The Will and somehow shock Chris into coming back home, but I kind of want that to explicitly be Chris’s decision rather than anything knee-jerk).
One could also make a case for it being Buck’s turn again, timing-wise if the bridge collapse counts, and because of the remaining scenarios to call back to/flip and reverse (drama + car accident or the shooting). There’s also the potential for Eddie to have some kind of realization or need to be honest with himself in a way he never felt he could now that he’s opening himself up to joy and self-exploration. Again, I don’t know anything and I am far from an analytical expert of any kind, so these are just my hyper-focused ramblings, but I do think the show could be narrowing down to something very pointed and specific. Given the behind the scenes pictures and interviews that are probably best taken with a grain of salt, I can easily envision the car accident/drama scenario, but maybe just because I like the narrative roundness of that choice. And obviously, I can’t rule out a variation on the sniper angle because, again, it’s Iconic.
It could also be that I’m just spinning my wheels, delulu on main in full clown regalia, but a gal’s gotta fill the time between now and Thursday somehow, so 🤷🏽‍♀️
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blondrichclosetwitch · 2 months ago
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I’m changing mediums.
To those involved, your corruption seeps from your pores, and it is sick, and it is sad. But that’s for you to deal with. I’m not your toy nor your queen. 16 years younger, and this is your representation? I should have listened when he warned me y’all were caustic. Oh darling you didn’t know the half of it.
I’ll leave you with what I found when I did a search for Gina in my phone, which I then tried in a scene.
All the text with the exception of the closing monologue & lines from Liza/ggg come from texts messages I sent, my tarot reading on 10/02/16, (5 days before her accident)and things my analyst and her writing assistant wrote about me. If I wrote them myself, there’s an asterisk.
Here I am after the Tarot Reader brought it to my apartment. It’s symbolic that I’m covering up my nakedness with it.
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ANALYST
I remember the NDE well. It was during our first August break. I always had the chain in mind of the abortion, accident and the death. Too much for one person, too close in kind to keep in mind.
Her case was haunted from the beginning by a question of belief. Vera, articulated, desperately, how much she needed to believe that I believed her, needed me to indicate that we shared the same beliefs, and asked that I validate what she was saying as the truth.
I have it written down that she made a comment about how she was always mourning a twin sister lost at Birth, and went on to suggest that she wasn't sure if it was a literal loss or more of a metaphorical one, but it had a structuring effect and was a key feature in her remembering her history. I continue to notice how this first narration she offered came up again and again in different relationships with women others, also intense and intimate and transformative in different ways.
The tarot reader & blondie especially. *
The idea of the lost twin sister always informed how i thought about the work with her. She was so often experiencing this feeling of connection being life or death.
That’s the reason she wrote me so much, I gather. *
*And then she disappeared into the spirit world. She was no longer talking to humans, just her dead niece & an italian guide born in 1902 called Gina.*
TAROT READER
yeah it looks like Gina came to you in the time when you were having a breakdown.
And it looks like she did come to you because she was pregnant and all of that, and she didn't want you to be confused about this relationship or anything like that.
It looks like she wants you to get in touch with your own magic as well that's come across as well, and she also wants to show you different sides of things and so you can actually see things more create clearly and not worry so much.
I think she's going to be very decisive and just wants to give you quick clear answers, but she doesn't look bad. She looks protective actually, a little overly protective. Because she feels like you need to be protected.
She looks she looks OK I wouldn't be wary of her she's genuine.
It looks like she just wants to give you a clear answers.
I think with her she's been through that, she knows what they are.
And she does very much care about you, and the baby.
VERA
but now I'm working with Gina who is one of my main Spirit guides who I understand connected to me in italy.
The tarot reader said Gina is a real guide. she said I can trust Gina's info but that spirit's sense of time is a little off so it's just going to take James a little while still.
Gina told me James would be shot.
Four times.
I have to do more research on this so I can understand it in more depth. but I have another spirit, Gina, who I've been talking to since I got back and she's very protective of me.
She too was pregnant.I guess that’s why she connected to me, according to my reading.
it's helpful to have a human who knows the spirit world to validate it all.
It was Gina Who woke me yesterday with thoughts of Blondie.
LIZA
And then she started to fall.
the first fall was hours after coming back from the funeral. the funeral will be the last place that she would go without the painting. it was always with her.
VERA
Gina says that all the Falls are connected to past traumas but that this was a slam to the ground of realization that I need to be done with my family. she's been saying this ever since I went to Italy.
Gina wants me to write my father a letter asking for a settlement for what he has put me through.
the gun is still happening Gina says.
Now I just work with Gina and my niece and the baby.
the funny thing is when I went back to the pharmacy I ended up pulling out Gina for the Polish woman who runs it, because her brother had died while I was in Italy and she wanted to know if he was okay. so I asked Gina if he had to send it in front of the woman and if he was okay. he was, he wasn't in the store, but he was okay and the woman was beside herself with joy to witness that. she hugged me so hard. it's the third or fourth time I've done that with a stranger. I told my analyst this morning.
Gina says we're done.
I haven't been talking to anyone at all besides my analyst and Gina and Stella.
Did I tell you Gina was born in 1902? I'm working with an Italian strega.
You're not going to believe this. this is not alternate world. I just learned from gina, my main guide, that my father sexually abused me. I don't know what to do. I obviously will let the tarot reader look at it first to verify it, but it makes sense why he flipped when I faced him at the funeral. he knew it was coming probably.
Gina says I can bring him to court.
There's only one living person who knows according to gina, the mistress Laura who was basically like my big sister.
I just have to trust that Gina would not lead me on a wild goose chase.
By the way Gina says James and I are moving to Carroll Gardens. and that we will marry next summer.
Gina says you have rich white girl privilege.
so I asked Gina if there was something more to my Falls. yes, she said. I was eight. he had just taught me to ride my bike. he took the training wheels off and the next day I landed mouth first two teeth on the ground. that's when I started falling.
ANALYST
Falling is the trauma of the father.
VERA
I have been falling over and over since, unable to speak. Falls and fucked up teeth.
(VERA is in a Gina trance, repeating everything she’s hearing to everyone around her.)
Gina has been telling me for 2 months he's getting a divorce and coming to live with me.
Gina just told me Blondie wished I would get hit by a car. remember in October Gina told me that Blondie would drive me insane?
Gina has been giving me exact dates for things. Gina says she's willing to look at stuff whenever you want. Gina wants you to understand she is preparing me to do my work.
Gina told me James would be shot.
No, I don't think Gina is fucking with me at all. Why would you say that?
(She turns to the TAROT READER.)
VERA
The painting is Gina. she just told me. when it came into my home... July 24th I think, I started to shift, and that's when my magic started and my connection to the spirit realm began to deepen. Gina has been working on me this whole time, through tarot, through the painting, through necromancy. she's my protector, she and Stella, and when you brought her into my home the transformation started. it wasn't the lachesis or Italy per se.
it was the painting.
THE TAROT READER
((smiling at her duplicitously) The story continues to unfold.
VERA
*I revisited my Google cal of spring 2017 and sure enough there were blocked off days where I went to three hotels in a row, because Stella said Blondie was on the hunt to get me arrested in Brooklyn and Gina aka the painting was insisting I'd make $1,400 a day easy, working in a Connecticut Hotel. it was the first time I was convinced to bring the painting with me. and we were there for 10 days straight. imagine 10 days with the painting witnessing all you do and a psychic estranged boyfriend telling you the contents of his heart, and a dead 9-year-old niece as a companion. almost every moment of my day and night belong to them.
but overall, I consulted Gina about everything. about possible clients, about how many days to stay, about the payoff check that I was always being promised. about what to do about psychic james. about how everything I was being told was true. the tarot reader had said Gina was a Strega, some sort of spiritual Master teacher, and so when Gina said I needed to do some sort of Sex Magic Ritual for the day witnessed by all the pictures in front of the window so the sun would shine on me, I followed her instructions to the letter.
now I realize it was for better lighting.
remembering the details of being on the hotel carpet, surrounded by important pictures.
if Stella said it, it must be true.
But if Gina said it, it was the word of God.
Once Upon a Time in 2017, Gina told me Stella was a big fat liar and possessed by the devil and purposely misleading me.
it got me in a lot of trouble.
Gina told me that I needed to banish her. I was told I had no choice.
She told me to cut up all her pictures, look up how to perform a banishment, go to the roof and banish my niece.
Gina said she would basically go to a reform school on the other side, but for my own good I needed to send her away.
(feels Stella talking to her)
Are you saying Liza was involved when I was told to banish and burn your pictures?
( She is enraged. It takes her a minute to calm down.)
I still have some of what was burned. kept the remains with the charcoal locked in a box. call me a Masochist. *
GGG2
There's more to the picture than meets the eye. (lyric message)
(Blackout.)
Addendum: Ask “Gina” about the things she told me about my dad. And how in heaven, families are different.
Oh wait, the families are different thing Katie just reminded me was fakekatie. That’s an important detail.
And to the Tarot Reader’s LP, sorry you got dragged into this. I know you had nothing to do with it.
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destinyimage · 1 year ago
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Man Who Lost His Mom & Little Brother Sees Them in Heaven
While Mark McDonough was in surgery to repair the burns he sustained during a house fire, He saw both his mother and brother who had both died as a result of the fire.
Other people’s NDE experiences have included very accurate descriptions of loved ones and their features.
I don’t remember seeing Mom or my brother the way I saw them here on earth, but I saw them and I was comfortable in the dynamic and the relationship. It’s like they’re there and they’re with me in every decision I’m making and they’re equally present and I had no problem with it. It wasn’t like I’m sitting there going, “Wait, I don’t see them like I did yesterday in the swimming pool.” That just wasn’t an issue. I kind of liken it to how my wife often wonders if those close to us who claim to be atheists, will they have the opportunity to change their mind at a certain time, or will we miss them if they’re not in Heaven?
I know that won’t be a concern. I feel that those things that we think we will miss here on earth just won’t be issues. That’s kind of the way it felt. Whether I see my mom again, ever face to face. In Randy Kay’s book, he talks about playing golf in Heaven. Will my golf clubs look the same? I don’t know if they will, but I won’t have a problem if they’re not Titleist or if they’re not Arnie Palmer. It’s just those kinds of issues weren’t there. But the overwhelming feeling and sense was that everything is the way it’s always been, and it is just the way it’s supposed to be, and it’s always going to be the way it’s supposed to be. God has it all covered, and yet everything’s so simple. As He said, it’s just as we’ve been told from day one. And I’ve also said it felt as if every question that could possibly come to mind, I didn’t even have to ask. The answers came as fast as I could think.
It’s so hard to put into words—just the security, the secure, safe, certain, nurturing, loving, forgiving. It’s all there in one, but a euphoria that I can’t put into words. When John Burke interviewed me, he pointed out a quote, and I must have said somewhere in another interview, “It’s really difficult to put into words.” And then right after that, “Almost indescribable”—as if it wasn’t redundant, but I can’t be redundant enough on that one.
Reflections on Mark McDonough’s Experience
While Mark McDonough didn’t see his mom and brother face to face in Heaven, he is confident that they were there with him while he was in Heaven. He goes on to talk about how our worries over whether we’ll see this family member or that friend in Heaven will not be an issue. That fits perfectly with what so many of our Heaven experiencers have shared. You’re so overwhelmed by God’s presence and love and the sheer awe of what you’re experiencing, all the questions and worries simply fade away.
Mark also touches briefly on being able to get answers to every question that came to his mind while he was in Heaven. These answers sound like they came instantaneously and fit with the spirit-to-spirit communication many others have described throughout this book.
Similar to pretty much all of NDEers we’ve interviewed, Mark notes that what he experienced is so indescribable, it’s difficult to put into words. Although it’s difficult, we’re so glad our friends who’ve been to the other side give it their best shot, because their stories give us so much hope and insight into the future that waits for each of us in the afterlife.
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niuniente · 5 years ago
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Anon who asked me 3 strangest (paranormal) thing ever happened to me
I’m sorry, I completely forgot that I made a promise to answer them when it’s not like 3am. But here you go now. Thanks for the ask back then, I guess it’s been 2 or 3 week already (sob, I’m sorry).
I’m actually going to tell 4 as a compensation. 
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Uninvited Sleepover Guest
This happened perhaps 7 years ago. I had a wide bed, wide enough for two people. I need lots of space as I toss and turn and spread like a starfish to every direction when I sleep.
I woke up and I noticed I was sleeping on my right side just at the edge of the bed. Very strange as I always sleep on my back, tangled with 8 pillows and 1-3 blankets. When I got my eyes open and realized my unnatural sleeping position, I felt how the mattress moved behind me. The same way as when someone gets up and leaves the bed.  A big person, a grown up.
“Good, now it left!” I thought myself and turned around to spread all over the bed, and I fell asleep happy that I could sleep freely again. Apparently I had slept at the edge of the bed some time already and felt sore.
It wasn’t until morning when I woke up and remembered this and went “...WAIT WHAT, WHO OR WHAT WAS SLEEPING IN MY BED WITH ME?!”
I still don’t know was it something to be called what or who, because in Finnish we have 1 gender pronoun “hän” but yet everyone is simply called “se”: it. I’m it, you are it, he is it, she is it, they are it, god is it, president is it, God is it.... 
I don’t know either why it was on my bed. This has never happened before or after that.
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Countess of Brune
This happened when I was 19 or 20. It’s a long story so I tell a short version of it.
I had vision while sleeping (not a dream). I met my inner child, who told me that I had been countess Brüne in 17th century. So in 16-something-something. I also saw a short vision of that life time. 
After waking up, I had a feeling that Brüne was a German surname (so not a name of a place of a manor), and it’s written either with U or Ü. I had never heard that word before, so I wanted to research it. Back then I didn’t have good internet access. I could use my landlord’s computer and internet but only for a few minutes. I found only a short mentioning that Brune was a medieval German surname. 
Fast forward to year 2019. By that time I had visited Berlin many times and wanted to start German studies, as I had fallen in love with the language. I visited nearby second hand shop and there were - first time ever - books in German, meant for teenagers. I thought I will buy one as it’s only 1 euro. It will help me with upcoming German studies. 
I opened the book and saw the name of the previous owner:
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Markus Brune. 
The first evidence ever that Brune is a German surname. I told about this in a post here  and also here . German followers told me that Brune and Brüne are indeed surnames in Germany. I did some research and found out:
- Brune/Brüne is a medieval surname which later rose to be a noble German family line. - Napoleon had an officer in his army called Brune (in 1804). He was a count.
So, Brune is a German noble family line that has counts and countesses in it.
Perhaps in some gallery or in old German manor there’s a painting of me or my husband count Brune there. I’m sure I could dig out more information if I had fluent understanding of German and money to travel freely around Germany for research.
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The Shadow Creature
This happened more than 10 years ago. I woke up not feeling well and by the time I was walking to catch my bus to school I decided to skip this day. I went back home and back to bed. 
As I was laying on the bed I heard noise coming from the hallway. I listened it and suddenly I hear my door being opened. It’s 7am, dark winter morning. First I thought it might be my landlord but why would he come in? He has never even seen me. Then I thought it must be my mother! Perhaps she’s heading shopping to a big city and wants to see if I want to go along!
I turn on my back. My front door is behind a corner next to my bed. I see how a really tall shadow figure with no facial features sneaks in, half-crouching, behind the corner. I think it’s mom and I try to say that she can turn on the lights as I’m awake.
But I can’t speak.
The tall figure notices me. It’s skinny and it has got really long limbs.  It comes very slowly to my side and bends down, just in front of my face. It curiously looks at my face tilting its head (it has no face, it’s just a shadow). It’s just a few inches away from my face when I finally manage to make “HMMH”-sound. It spooks and disappears hastily, and I get my eyes open.
I’m laying on my bed like “....Okay, that definitely wasn’t mom.”
I have seen the same figure once after that. Both of my siblings have seen it, too, in different locations. It seems to be a “race” of its own. They are harmless, curious and very shy, running away as soon as someone spots them. I heard they are curious about people who have sunny, happy energy. 
I have seen one photo taken from an American man’s basement, which featured the creature. We saw the photo together with my sister and we just looked at one another and went “That’s it! That’s the Shadow Thing! I can’t believe someone has photographed it!”
Here’s the photo:
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Out of Body Experience (OBE)
I had this when I was 19 or 20, in November. It’s very remarkable and long, close to near-death experiences people have. I will tell only a short version here.
I was laying on the floor on a mattress on my stomach. Suddenly I felt like someone would have been yanking my legs upward. I thought it’s not physically possible, knees can’t bend like that. On 3rd yank, I sprung out of my body.
I ended up in a place of nothing. Just darkness and not even darkness, because nothing existed there; not even the darkness. No direction, sound, temperature, weight.... Nothing. I heard later that this is the space between physical and death realm but I didn’t know where I was. 
“Oh fuck, I’m out of my body!” I said to myself. I could feel that my body is somewhere really far away, like on the other side of the globe. I had no idea how I can get back.
I had learned about angels as guardian spirits so I yelled them to help me. Two gigantic(!) angel men, one with blond hair and one with brown, came to me immediately. Brown haired guy took my left hand, blond my right. Suddenly I was out, in a summer scenery and I was watching myself from 3rd person perspective. I had 360 degree vision with no limitation, which I had never heard (I heard about it from NDE-person when I was 30. She had experienced the same. Until that I thought I had imagined it). 
I thought that I what if my hand slips? If it slips, will I be yanked somewhere horrible again? The blond angel heard my thoughts and said to me; “Don’t worry; I can carry you.”
Then we were back in the dark nothingness with him and he was holding me in his arms. He was so huge I fitted his upper arms and my hands didn’t reach even near around his neck. He was probably 5-6 meters/ 16.5 - 20f tall.  I was boggled that he was so kind and concerned of me. I managed to say my thanks and tell him that I’m really scared and would like to go back home.
“I’ll take you there,” he said.
I saw my body and my vision was spinning as I came back. I felt how I was placed gently within my body. I could see cupboards and the whole room, even when my eyes were closed. When I was placed back to my body, the angel said “Ok. Now you can start to gently wake up”.
My eyes shot open but my vision didn’t change, as I had already seen the room with eyes closed.
I was so afraid it would happen again I didn’t dare to go to sleep for hours. I later learned that the blond angel is my guardian angel.
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theoanetflix · 6 years ago
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Trailer Theory!
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This part of the trailer is killing me. Like, they really overloaded me with just these few shots. I have other posts I want to make but I have too much to say about the trailer for 1 post so I’m splitting it up.
This post is loooong so I’m putting the rest under the cut :)
Okay so, we now know for definite that there’s multiple dimensions. And that the dimensions have split before. I think the reason that The OA likes to be called ‘The OA’ more than any other name she’s been given might be because she’s had so many names in all the different dimensions, whereas The OA is one unifying name. In the trailer, a man calls her Miss Azarova, which was her surname back in Russia at the beginning of season 1. I’m assuming in season 2 we’re with “Nina Azarova”, not “Prairie Johnson”
Originally I thought that this season would take place in multiple dimensions, and I’ll make a post about that as well, but to me it seems more likely that it’s going to take place in just one. Well, at least OA (or ‘Nina) will be in 1 dimension. I’m not sure about the others, I need to do more digging. We know that OA meets back up with the captives but we don’t know which dimension that’s in yet.
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This is my rough addition to the flowchart we see. The triple lines show the path that season 1 took, and I think season 2 will loop round so that we move from ‘Prairie’s Dimension’ to ‘Nina’s Dimension’.
The red text shows the split in each dimension (The two... ‘Forking Paths’.. if you will ;)... S1E6). There are some splits we’ve never seen so I’ve put question marks there. I split it every time we see OA interact with Khatun. It’s likely that the paths forked every time she had an NDE, but we know that the five movements are the only way to stay in a dimension, so I think that even if the paths did fork, they didn’t go far. Therefore it didn’t seem worth including them. However, when OA gets hit on the back of the head, she meets with Khatun and chooses to live. That’s what makes me think there’s another full fork where either she chooses to stay with her father. (or maybe she doesn’t try to escape at all. If that’s the case, there’s a dimension where she’s still blind) Maybe those dimensions will be explored in this season, however I think if they are explored it’ll be in later seasons.
I think there isn’t a time jump after the ending of season two. We’ve seen behind the scenes photos where Brit Marling is in the wolf jumper with the gunshot wound, so I think the season will start off in “Prairie’s Dimension” and then we’ll see OA wake up in “Nina’s Dimension” which is what we see at the beginning of the trailer.
The reason I’m so certain that we’re in “Nina’s Dimension” is because that’s what’s on the left hand side of the flowchart, and it seems to be what’s been filled in first. And I think if anyone were to make this sort of flowchart, they’d fill in their side first. As well as that, on the right, one of the things listed is ‘PRAIRIE’. ‘NINA’ isn’t listed on the other side, probably because she didn’t think it was necessary to write her own name. Also, we’ve seen her be introduces as Miss Azarova. It makes sense that she’s Nina Azarova for the entire season.
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This is the only other shot in the trailer where she’s wearing the same outfit she wore while writing on the wall. It’s the shot where she says “Homer” before she lists Scott, Rachel, Renata, BBa etc...
I think this scene might be her piecing everything together, so it’s likely it comes near the end of the season. At the beginning of the trailer she answers that the president is Obama, so she seems to have memories from “Prairie’s Dimension”. However, we know dimensional travelling can cause amnesia. She may have forgotten a lot of what happened and spends the season remembering. I didn’t notice her scars in the trailer but I’m sure they’ll play a part, since they were intended to help the captives remember the movements. It’s got to be significant that we barely see Homer in the trailer. He has two of the movements on him, they never wrote down the 5th. This flowchart could be a ‘map’ to help her find Homer, or it could be what jogs her memory of him. Or it could be something else entirely! We don’t know! I just know I’m excited for the new season!
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infinitycircuit · 3 years ago
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baskin (2015) | tomie | final trial
The others speak. Tomie scoots her chair a little closer to Aurora’s as she takes notes — a big NO DAD under Kakeru and Mercedes’ names, DAD HAVER under Lily and Akaji's, NDE under just Akaji — and sets down the puzzle so she can take one of Aurora’s delicate, fidgeting hands in her free one. Her thumb rubs circles into back.
“See, this is the problem with stories like this,” she says when Larcei’s done. “Time travel’s not real — I mean, it wasn’t real until just now — so there are no consistent rules, so every time travel movie has to spend half its runtime on exposition about the rules of its version of time travel. It’s total bullshit.”
She taps her pen against her notebook.
“But we’ve got the exposition we’ve got, and we shouldn’t assume anything that’s not in these notes. We can’t bring in rules from other movies, like ‘you don’t remember getting erased and un-erased.’ We don’t have anything suggesting that right now, do we?
“Because the notes say this person remembers getting blipped to the end of the world and knows what they’re doing. The second article: ‘I’m not crazy. This happened. I still know things I shouldn’t know. I still have nightmares about waking up to everything red and empty around me.’”
As she reviews, another phrase jumps out at her. She reads it aloud almost involuntarily.
“‘I’m not crazy, but I know how it sounds.
...
That’s why I absolutely can’t tell anyone.’”
Her gaze flicks from Mugen to Katashi to Lindsay to Akaji. And her stomach tilts.
Remember that thought? The one representing a terror so huge her mind can’t hold it? It’s starting to creep in. Or maybe crawl out, blackness welling up from between the folds in her brain.
She squeezes Audie’s hand, a movement like a heartbeat.
“Yo, Dogsaw,” she says suddenly, turning her attention to Rinpa. “What happens if we get it right? Not just to us. To them. Do they get executed? Do they disappear forever? I’m not going to — nobody deserves to die for fighting to fuckin’ exist. Especially when the reason they don’t exist is that some stupid fucker playing with spreadsheets at Total Ass Pain, Inc. just wrote them out of the script."
Alice once thought about how Tomie’s entire life has been a struggle to create a place for herself in the world. To say, No, I am a real person, and I don’t give a shit if you didn’t invite me to your party. I’m showing up anyway, loud and tasteless and so fucking brilliant I’ll burn your eyes out.
She can’t deny that to someone else. She can’t, even now. Long shots, reckless schemes and desperation are all write-offs like them have.
And she wouldn't love horror movies if she didn't feel intense camaraderie with the truly miserable freaks and nobodies of the world. Like her old friend—
"It's like Leatherface," she adds to the table. "He's not the real villain of the Texas Chain Saw Massacre series, right? He's a guy who doesn't even fully understand what's going on, except that his family is ordering him to do chainsaw violence and he can't take care of himself enough to live without them. He does it because...because what else is he going to do? What else can he do?��He's not the one anybody should be trying to kill."
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ageeksnerdyworld · 7 years ago
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So I have this idea that I might turn into my next graphic novel if/when I ever finish The Forgotten…
Anyway.
Here goes.
Story starts off by following a little elderly woman as she goes about her day. She’s a Middle Eastern, Muslim, immigrant and speaks English well but it’s heavily accented so even if she doesn’t wear a hijab in public people can tell. With the increasing hatred towards Arabs and Muslims sometimes she sees horrible things happen to good people. In fact her son was beaten on his way home from the mosque. He confesses that he didn’t tell her right away because he didn’t want to worry her. Despite wanting to speak up and do something about this injustice she does nothing. What can I do anyway?, she thinks, I’m just a frail old woman.
And then on to someone else. Ex-police officer who was shot on the job trying to save someone from an armed robbery and the perp got away. Not severe enough to kill or disable him but he needed to go to the hospital and recover for a while. He tried so hard to protect the city he loved a job which was made even harder because he’s black. Many of his fellow officers would say mean and racist things to him making his job even harder. When he was shot he took a leave of absence to recover but then the department let him go. Being a single father was hard enough but an unemployed single father is even worse. So he’s turned his back on the city since then and vowed never to help anyone in it again.
Then we turn to our next character. They’re a genderfluid person from the wrong side of the tracks. Teenager or early twenties. Various run-ins with local police have lead to a bit of a track record. Spent some time in jail. But they’ve only done what they needed to do to survive since they were kicked to the streets by thier abusive parents when they came out as genderfluid. They also come across lots of crime and injustice in the city but don’t do anything because they’re afraid of being confused for the criminals and being arrested again.
Then we switch story again. Now we peek into the life of a disabled young teenager. He’s been disabled ever since his parents’ store/restaurant got robbed and he was shot multiple times in the abdomen taking away use of his legs. Or something like that. But even before that the city and the people in it were cruel to him. Hispanics aren’t very well-liked or well-treated by society. He’s treated everyone nicely, giving them the benefit of the doubt until they’ve proven him wrong, and they’ve pretty much always proved him wrong. And then ever since his accident things took a turn for the worse. And so now he pretty much keeps to himself when others are in need of help. What can I do anyway?, he thinks, I'm disabled from the waist down so I can't fight.
And then we flip to a lesbian college student. She’s very open with her sexuality but not active about helping people. Vocal about it but not actively helping. That’s because she’s been ridiculed, sworn at, and a whole other manner of things whenever she’s tried. So she’s pretty much given up on helping others. There’s no point in trying to help people when they refuse. Especially when most of the bad guys she deals with are the type who can squeeze thier way out of trouble. Students who come from wealthy and powerful families. Professors who abuse thier power over students. People like that.
So all our main characters are classic bystanders as revealed by backstories. They all see something bad happen and do nothing because they think that someone else will step in and help. But they’re all bystanders with good reason. Until one day they all just so happen to be in the same place at the same time. A, very severe, mulitple car crash or something. Thier fight/flight instincts kick in and none of them can suppress them any longer. So they all jump in to help. Their fight/flight instincts combined with the overdose of adrenaline from the event causes them to develop superpowers.
(Or they all are in the multi-car crash and have NDEs. Meet when they all wake up in the same hospital.)
But none of them know they have powers yet. Then we get a few sequences over a few months time with all five of them where they figure out thier powers. They all meet back up, unintentionally, at the spot of the incident. With no one else to turn to they promise one another to help each other figure out what the hell is going on. But that’s it. Separate ways after that.
And then a villain arises in the city. Our villain has emotion manipulating powers. Or possession powers. Or Inception powers, so like, idea-planting powers. It’s the only one I’ve narrowed down to at least a few ideas.. Our main characters are forced to become a team. Villain has some type of origin story that’s more suited for a hero’s origin than a villain’s. They take down said villain and kick ass.
Working title: The Bystander Effect
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