#georgenotfound allegations

[femalegoloism]

oh no another opinion

im not really expecting anyone to read this but after thinking about it for so many days i just wanted to write everything down.

first off i want to start by saying that i believe caiti when she says she feels violated by what happened to her. her feelings are completely valid and it's disgusting that it came to a point where she gets to feel that way. but, with that said, i want to state a couple of things.

everyone in that room failed her. being 18 and exposed to grown adults and illegal drinking is a recipe for disaster. if you're bringing your 18 year old friend to a party with people considerably older than her and with alcohol involved i don't get why you would leave her unattended. or give her alcohol. or leave her alone in a room with strangers. and not only that, but refuse to take any blame for that and try to blame people that had no way of knowing (im talking about dream, in case that wasn't clear enough). you need to grow up and stop going live to talk about this as if it's your story to tell because by doing so you're digging yourself into a deeper hole and discrediting your friend's story because of all the inconsistencies. first you were too drunk to notice anything (even though you came with her and she's your best friend), but somehow still expected other people (who were also drunk and didn't even know her until that day) to notice how she was feeling. then you did notice, but decided to keep silent instead of defending your friend and taking care of her, even going as far as leaving her alone in that room when you noticed she was uncomfortable. you're a shit friend.

consent is a very tricky topic here, because i personally think different types of consent are cultural and depend on the type of crowd you're a part of in that specific moment. yes, verbal consent is very important, but to assume it always happens is delusional at best. maybe it's because i partake a lot in hookup culture (that is to say, i am not chronically online and leave my house and have normal human interactions in my day to day life). consent can be found in a lot of different things, like a hand to your shoulder, to a nod on your head, to a cuddle. it shouldn't be like that, but in mainstream culture that's just how things are. do i think that's okay? absolutely not. but just because i perceive it like that doesn't mean every single person does. my main issue with that in this specific situation is the power dynamics that play into it. if it were normal people i wouldn't really give it that importance but george being a really big and important creator really changes things. he holds some power over her, whether he realises that or not, and just because of that explicit consent should always be expected. now i don't think he's really aware of how this power dynamic works out for him (seeing as he spent most of his life stuck in his room, never really went out, got drunk or even interacted with other people apart from his close friend group until he moved to florida) and he's still navigating through it. i don't think he understands how someone may feel pressured to act fine around him or play into his games just because he is who he is. and now this brings me to my next topic.

george is not an assaulter. he's a dumbass boy who was drunk and needs to learn about boundaries and put himself in women's shoes for a minute to understand the shit we have to go through everyday. i don't think he did anything purposefully and wanted to take advantage of anyone. he touched a waist. that's it. i get that it can be uncomfortable for her and that he should've asked for explicit consent before doing that because he didn't knew her to just assume body language but that is not sexual assault. they were both drunk and he had no indication that what he was doing was bothering her. i can understand why he thought it was okay (laughing, smiling, getting up and sitting back next to him, deciding to stay even after her friends left) and i can also see how caiti could do this to avoid awkwardness. at the end of the day, it all was just a big misunderstanding. that's why you need to communicate when you're engaging with someone. you need to ask if they're feeling okay, but you also need to reassure that person that you're comfortable or like what's happening.

what really irked me about this is the rape rhetoric used by caiti in her statement. i don't want this to sound as victim blaming, because it's not, i just don't understand it. i've been thinking about this since i watched her stream and i need to get my thoughts down, so bear with me. when i first watched everything i thought he was touching her in private parts or straight up groping her, i even said so to my irl. i don't actually remember the actual words used, so forgive me if i say anything wrong, but i remember her saying things like feeling stuck in place and like she couldn't escape, feeling dirty months after it happened and not knowing how to make it stop. i don't know her or what she's been through to have such a strong reaction to what happened, but at the end of the day it was just your waist getting touched and you being uncomfortable. it's not okay. but you weren't raped, you weren't groped. telling things in a way that implies you were, i don't know if purposeful or not, is disgusting. by doing that you're diminishing the experiences of a lot of different people that have gone through so much worse things.

people projecting their trauma into this situation is why it became such a sensitive topic. your experience is not caiti's. don't pretend like you went through the same thing because you didn't. people think that just because they'd been SAd (i have been too! it's not important to the story though) they are more capable of forming opinions or treating this more critically are wrong. it's the opposite. you are not being rational about this and you are not being critical, you are being triggered and blowing things out of proportion. from the bottom of my heart, seek help, you need it.

ccs need to stop being so performative. as dream said, support victims because they deserve it, not because it's convenient. some of them are so scared to lose their platform they become so spineless it's actually scary. i'm not naming names, but i think that if someone reads this they'll know what i'm talking about.

this is a more direct "attack" (not attack, really, i just don't understand) but i'm still not going to name anyone. you can't say people need to stop being parasocial and just follow your lead in the same sentence. you're just saying stop being parasocial to these ccs but be parasocial to me instead and just do what i say because i actually know better. i don't understand why you're implying they're bad people and have always been when a week ago you were actively engaging with them and calling them your sibling. what am i supposed to take from that? why are you saying they're bad people now, when this came out, but were perfectly fine staying in their house weeks before this happened. if you know something, just say it. and i don't mean rumours, or things you've seen that are now taken out of context.

my final point, unless i came back to this later and have more to add, is that this could have been avoided if these people with platforms just learned how to communicate privately. dream asked months after that night if everything was fine, if something happened, and no one said anything. caiti continued talking to george (even if it was passive aggressive, or whatever she wants to call it) for months after it happened. isn't it better to just straight up telling him hey!! this happened!!! i didn't like it!!! or, if she wasn't ready to do it by then, just talk to him or one of his friends before going public with it. it's not a situation where he was made aware of the issue and continued being a cunt, he just had no idea of what was happening.

i wanna finish this by saying i don't hate them, i actually still like them (that can change as more information comes out). they need to grow as people and, for the love of god, go to therapy. but i don't think they're bad people or that this has to end their careers.

take care everyone

[yourdadsmistriss]

Honestly what's y'all's thoughts on the georgenotfound situation?

[felucians]

I wanna remind everyone who's focusing on underaged drinking surrounding the topic of abuse, that the drinking age in most countries is 18 & the US is 21 (so depending on where she was, it was legal) and that even if she was underaged drinking, she didn't do anything wrong.

She was 18 and doing what majority of people do at 18 - drinking with friends at a party. It's not an invitation for assault, it's not a "putting yourself in that position".

It's as simple as a man abusing his power & any adult who isn't an abuser or an assaulter wouldn't have done it.

Stop focusing on the underaged drinking and start focusing on the shitty abusive human being that still has a major platform who's about to do some PR control.

[dnaerose0]

* Wilbur soot gets outed as an abuser *

Aw , dang it

*georgenotfound gets outed as a pedo the day after I met him *

Aw , dang it

* Cody ko gets outed as a pedo *

Aw , dang it

* Melanie Martinez gets sa allegations / outed as an as’er *

Aw , dang it

* Ava Tyson gets outed as a pedo *

Aw , dang it

* Mr beast new tv show allegations ,

AW , DANG IT .

[aroacewolfic]

glad i stopped being a dsmp fan last year because wtf.

[6skyygirly9]

george allegations

first of all i still support george js like with wilbur

second of all i support all victims

third of all don’t send death threats to any one

if you want me to talk abt the george allegations you can ask

[boomboompowpow]

finding out that the “victim” lied about being drunk before they got to the room is crazy lmao

[bootleg-b0i]

In light of the dsmp member allegations, I have some thoughts:

1) Whatever feelings you may have at this time, believe victims firstly. I know it can be hard when there’s so much coming out at once, but the only way we make things better for victims is by believing them and taking this all seriously. It’s unfortunate to hear these things about people you supported, but I do think power corrupts, and the way to combat that is accountability. These victims deserve peace and closure.

2) Personally, I rescind any and all support I ever gave to dsmp members. For the sake of transparency, the only members I’ve still been watching are Tommy, and I occasionally engage with Ranboo’s social media. Neither of them have done anything wrong, as far as we know, and no allegations have been made about them. However, this is not a public endorsement of them and if any such allegations are made about them, rest assured that I will stop watching them as well.

3) I have, for a long while now, been inactive on Twitter and have no plans of reengaging with it. I think the management overall there has rendered it unusable for anything other than unethical paid promos and ai bots. My mental health has improved immensely since distancing myself from it, even though I was never that active to begin with. I’m leaving my account up for the sake of friends I have made and content I want preserved, but this may change. As of now, my primary contact points outside of Twitch are gonna be here (Tumblr) and my Discord, only. Yes, it slows down what news I have access to, but I still encourage others to do the same.

This will likely be the last thing I say about dsmp. I have old posts on here about it that I don’t see the point in deleting because it was important to me at the time and good outlet. But, I wanted to make a statement explaining my current stance so there’s no misunderstanding. What it was was good, but it’s been long gone for a while now. I no longer have any desire to align myself with that community and these creators.

[wishitweresummer]

Oh George so kisses his friends when he’s drunk are you kidding me

[evepack]

So i know this is kinda weird question but what happend with the Gnf allegations? What wqs confirmed and all because honestly- i had forgotten about and just remember because tiktok remomemded a video of someone basicly calling Caiti a "Wolf in sheep's clothing" and i kinda confused now. Because you know. This is TIKTOK we talkin about 90% IS missinformation and honestly i just curious

[felucians]

Another one got accused

stop being shocked when your mid white minecraft youtuber turns out to be a horrible human being, we been knew!!

[the-final-sif]

About the current situation:

There's a streamer, Caitibugzz, making an allegation that some people believe is directed towards Georgenotfound. She doesn't name him, and the details are somewhat confusing, but people are making that connection. I'm not entirely convinced myself, mostly due to the number of people involved not adding up for dteam.

Her allegation is that while drunk in a hotel room in summer 2023 with several other people, he touched her several times, the first time she only describes it as "sticking his hand under her clothing and asking if she was ticklish" although she does not say where. And then "touching her in certain areas to make her lose the phone game that she was playing". She alleges that he contacted her on instagram, although no specifics are provided. That he left the hotel room at the same time as her, and asked her to get in the elevator with him, she refused and he left. She never describes telling him to stop, although she does describe being very uncomfortable.

I have mixed feelings on her allegations myself. She uses very flowery language when talking about things and colors statements without actually providing details, she doesn't actually discuss where she was touched at all and that context really matters. Like, a drunk guy poking you in the side right under your shirt has an extremely different context than a guy groping at you under your clothing. Or someone tapping your shoulder to make you lose a phone game vs touching elsewhere.

Without that context, it's really hard for me to know how I feel about this. If her allegation is directed towards George, and it's "while we were drunk, he poked me in the side and then tapped me on the shoulder to make me lose a phone game" then that's something I feel extremely differently about than "while we were drunk he groped me in front of other people". One can easily be a misunderstanding and someone not behaving appropriately while drunk and thinking everyone's having fun, the other is assault. I'd want more context there and for George to be able to make a response if this is about him before I'd cast judgement.

[anonymous-dentist]

Sapnap stans on twt are pissed because everybody hopes that their streamer dies next, like yes! Nobody in the English community likes him!

He called a gay pride event “so AIDS” once because he lost! He willingly joined Kick, a website filled with literal nazis, just for the money! He’s best friends with known groomer and all around piece of shit Dream! He and Dream both covered up allegations of their new best friend manatreed being a domestic abuser by doing dsmp lore! His other bff is georgenotfound, who sexually assaulted a drunk girl! And he helped cover that up for over a year until the news came out this year! He and his friends were all super racist towards Quackity for YEARS while the dsmp was going on to the point of Quackity spending multiple qsmp streams talking about his trauma regarding racist behavior in the twitch community!

And that’s all just off the top of my head! The English community at large has abandoned this dude because he and his friends are all enormous pieces of shit who should have been deplatformed years ago. He’s a despicable, slimy mess of a “human being” with no personality and no morals. And if he wins Squidcraft again this year, nobody will ever take the event seriously again. Because not only will a gringo have won an originally-Hispanic event two years running, but a genuinely evil one will have won. Twice.

[th3-c0ll3ct3r]

To keep you in the loop

The supposed trumpet player, of Wilbur's band "Lovejoy" has came out with allegation that Tubbo S/A her after they got drunk ( I've heard she was the trumpet player but I don't know because I don't listen to the music or like at all)

Tubbo met this person about a year ago and didn't know she was in that band until afterwards, and have only met twice (also don't be judging people for preforming in a band for money, that's like being mad at someone who works at Starbucks. Be made at the dude in charge)

But they met, SHE KISSED HIM, his place and talked about jazz. That's it. The later met up again, they made music which Tubbo still had on his laptop, and that's it. He doesn't even have her number.

But apparently both her Twitter and tiktok but not other social medias have been posting about Tubbo S/A.

Here is this beautiful clip of Tubbo addressing it and you can tell he's clearly confused and barely remembers who this person is:

https://x.com/drishitposting/status/1912931110054662186?t=5YQkmiXfkCagHt07Hf5Ufw&s=19

I would also like to mention, that before this according to Many of Her fans the original allegations were that he S/A her at the party, but he vlogged the party, had been put into a video about a year ago so that was disproven, deleted and a new allegation has come up

Many of Her fans like her genuine fans, with no association to Tubbo to anyone else, says that she's been posting differently lately, and the fans themselves have come to the conclusion that she's been hacked.

Because the irregular posting, mixed with it coming out of nowhere, etc...

Tubbo is not blaming her and isn't mad at all, just confused. Because he also believes that she's been hacked because of the way that the original posts look which you can see in the video. And to be honest they do look fake.

So it's been mutually agreed between everyone that it was not her who made the post, and I've heard ALLEGEDLY she's been trying to get into contact with him to apologise

Now if this is so clear-cut then why am I telling you this?

BECAUSE... GEORGENOTFOUND FANS THINK HE DIDN'T S/A HER BUT R*PED HER WITH NO EVIDENCE

And have been making fun of Tubbo, and "praying on his downfall", and making up other wild allegations.

A Tiktok saying "and he made fun of George knowing he did the same thing"

1. What gnf did and what Tubbo ALLEDGELY did (has been proven he didn't do it), is completely different. Gnf owned up to having a toxic and boardline abusive relationship with someone who he met when they were underage, and have been shit talking each other ever since.

Tubbo got kissed by a girl.

THOSE ARE COMPLETE DIFFERENT THING

2. It's clear that the unauthorised user is a gnf fan. Because of how quickly they all jumped on it

And now, evidence aside. There is one crucial detail that people seem to be forgetting when talking abt Tubbo.

He is gay. And yeah he got drunk, but he was sober enough to vlog and talk about music and to make music. So you'd think be won't want more that a kiss she initiated.

Even in the clip he talks about how he was freaking out because "I'd never been with a women, only men"

So yeah. Gnf fans on twitter and tiktok are being more insane than normal over a nothingness allegations

[bonesandthebees]

It's fine I perservere through everything bc I am just that cool

Also yeah, wtf has happened since I've been gone??? Like? Last I new was the Wilbur stuff and know there's talk of the French Union threatening to sue Quackity (I think? I'm a little confused on the whole thing)

oh god sammie you have missed. so much.

um. ok. nutshell summary. this is gonna be long. (tw: talks about more abuse and SA allegations being brought against other ccs)

other mcyt cc allegations after wilbur:

you know what happened with wilbur. after all the support shelby received, another streamer caitibugzz (another brighton cc) came forward with her own story about being sexually assaulted by a cc at vidcon while she was 18 and he was 26. she didn't name him but like with wilbur it didn't take long for people to figure out she was talking about georgenotfound. anyway, uh, that spiraled into a thing. george said a lot of shit, dream involved himself way too much, it was a mess.

immediately after that, punz's ex girlfriend, andi, came forward and discussed how toxic their relationship was and detailed a time they had sex while she was blackout drunk, which is SA. punz did respond insisting he didn't realize how drunk she was, it turned into a whole thing, andi's response basically boiled down to read both sides of the story and form your own opinion.

also then punz jumped in on whatever the hell was going on with dream and george with george's own allegations and discussed how in his entire friendship with dream he's felt very intimidated to speak out against him and often thought of him as a boss more than a friend. along with that he also brought up a point regarding his ex girlfriend andi, but I'm not going to go into too much detail on that because I don't believe andi wanted all that information to be made public and punz later deleted the posts.

at the same time another thing happened. another cc in the brighton group, lexie marie, had spoken out multiple times about how her ex was emotionally abusive to her and the day before wilbur posted his 'apology', she and shelby even did a whole stream together discussing abuse and their experiences. anyway, lexie's abuser was publicly named as wisp, so yeah he responded with an 'apology' of his own.

NOW AS FOR QSMP:

like a week or two after wilbur's 'apology' was posted, a former admin of one of the qsmp updates accounts came forward on twitter and discussed the terrible working conditions she and all the other admins have been having to deal with working for quackity studios. we learned that the updates accounts and the egg admins were unpaid, and were often pushed to pulling more hours or doing extra work they shouldn't have. this blew up in the community and quackity ended up doing a stream to say he basically has to do an entire restructure of the server because the finances for the server were being severely mishandled and he was under the impression most of these people were getting paid when they were not. (also, during this stream quackity made a quick aside to say that wilbur was going to be removed from the qsmp)

since then, more admins have left the team (agent 18, ramón's current admin) saying they haven't received communication and aren't sure what's going on.

one of the issues the initial whistleblower brought up was that pomme's admin had just recently been removed from the whitelist for the server and kicked from the discord server without being given much of an explanation. the french cc's all collectively said if pomme was not given back her role they would not continue on the server. today pomme's admin revealed herself and made a post saying she still hasn't received any communication with the team and is quitting entirely. dapper's admin resigned in solidarity with her.

then today quackity did another stream discussing how things are taking time because they have to work out a lot of internal legal issues and because it's legal stuff he can't give that many updates. he's also been hesitant to update people because he doesn't want to make false promises, as right now the qsmp does not have enough money to pay the egg admins and they won't return unless he finds funds for that because he's ending all unpaid positions. also, as people have left the project, some have been posting private screenshots from the qsmp discord or from communications with the qsmp team and quackity has said these leaks have been causing issues with the legal stuff they're dealing with, and also what's going on has been misconstrued as a result of these leaks, so that's another reason he's been keeping quiet about things. but he's determined to work this all out and to keep the qsmp going, but he completely understands if people don't want to stick with the project or if people who have worked with it wish to leave.

as far as the union goes, the initial whistleblower was a french admin for the updates account and so when she left the studio she contacted a french union about the unfair working conditions. the union has posted on twitter calling out quackity studios saying they're in violation of french labor laws and that if quackity refuses to communicate with them they will pursue legal action. except today we also learned from one of the union guys on twitter that they have not attempted to email him at all. they made their posts on twitter and said it's quackity's responsible to contact them. for the record, quackity deleted twitter a while ago so he's not on that platform right now. as you can see this raised some eyebrows.

so uh yeah. I'm missing a lot of details I know but I was trying to give as much of a summary as I could hitting all the major points. you have missed literally the most insane past few weeks.

[neo-smpwriterrr]

DISCLAIMER!!!

The name Neo-smp is the name of my dream smp rewrite, there's a lot of changes I've made so here's my post clarifying everything!

So, to start off with the name. I called it The Neo Smp because I ultimately decided to exclude people from the original server and replaced them with new characters.

I did this for multiple reasons;

1. It didn't feel right to include people who've done pretty shitty things, regardless of how important they are to the story.

2. The character version has such little time to be fleshed out I decided to just wipe the board entirely

And 3. The lore wasn't rock solid to begin with, i decided to shift things to make it more clear and give each character a prominent role while keeping the main character... well, the main character.

This just covers a bit of it, but you get my point. Here's a list of the content creators from the dream smp I replaced in my project;

Dream -> Neo/Nico

This is the reason for the name, because I decided to cut Dream out of his own smp. I never liked him and a few others in this smp, even back when I was invested, and my gut feeling back then has been proven right time and time again. Genuinely speaking, I couldn't in good faith glorify this asshole even in my practice writings. So, I decided to fix up a new character as a placeholder. Nico is a dryad who gets possessed by a being named Neo.

I'll explain more about each character and my interpretations of them in separate character posts.

Sapnap -> Laverne & Salvador

This one is more complicated but there's a reason, I excluded sapnap due to his lack of character and overall substance. That and I don't like anyone from the original trio that escaped the depths of hell.

But with Sapnap, I was torn on two different interpretations of him. So I decided to split it and keep both characters. Laverne is a Ghast entity who plays a large role in Philza & Techno's lore and Salvador is a demon that's bbh took in.

Again, more character info in their respective posts

Georgenotfound -> Galiant/Galahad

Ya'll staring to see a pattern? Reason for George getting written out is because there wasn't even anything there to begin with. And I decided not to include George's name because of allegations. Whether true or not, I didn't feel comfortable writing the guy in any capacity. So it was better for me to write something new in his place.

Galiant is a human who's off to look for adventure and glory, wanting land and a title all to himself. He partners up with Salvador & Nico to make a land for themselves. Later on after big events happen, Galiant gets pushed out of a kingdom he stole and goes through a whole arc and gets his name changed to Galahad.

Wilbur -> Wallace Sullivan

Everyone knows by now what Wilbur did and I took it upon myself to not give this guy anymore attention than he already licks up off the ground of others.

Wallace Sullivan is a supposed human who lived with his dad for a while before deciding to go off and explore (and yes, philza stays his canon father). He ends up having a kid (fundy) and continues on till he's invited to occupy some land.

Eret -> Callus/Valentine

Imma be real, I dont remember why I excluded eret. There's notes that date back a bit with him still in the original writing, but in the newer ones, she's written out. I believe it's because I just decided to remake a whole new character as I don't remember any controversy she's been apart of, so tale that how you will.

Callus was the grandson of the fabled Herobrine and was an heir to the Netherrealm throne. Ultimately, He decided to experience the overworld for a few years before he took the responsibilities of a monarch. As they learn and grow as a character, She becomes Valentine.

Ranboo -> Viren/Vira and Renavine

Odd name, I don't remember much about this apart from wanting a whole revamp of ranboos character because I always felt like the writing was everywhere, and the lore for ranboo was forced.

Viren is an enderbeing with a harlequin kind of pattern. They don't know what they are or who they are apart from a note card in their suit pocket, a weird beanbag toy in their other pocket and a crown. They learn about their identity as they learn that the server they spawned in wasn't a random occurrence. Everything about their life was premeditated.

And finally,

Karl Jacob's -> Kaleido Copic

This is an occurrence where I decided to rename for the heck of it, and because I felt like the og name didn't fit right with the new backstory and lore I made.

Kaleido sleeps, and their body changes at any given second. They can go from a strange, colorful array of shapes to a human. When they come into the server, they dont know remember anything about themselves apart from a constant dream and mission. That they needed to clear the greywalk.

What that means and what it entails, they don't know.

And that's all the rewritten characters for now! These were characters who were made to fill the role.

If you're interested to know more, I'll share more of my work on this blog.