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Gigolas porque Why the fuck not???
#gigolas#legolas x gimli#gimli x legolas#elf x dwarf#dwarf x elf#gay#mlm#lgbtqia+#lgbtqia#my art#fanart#bi mlm#gay Tolkien characters#sorry not even remotely sorry
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men who hate people having their silly little lotr ships are so silly and get so wound up about how someone else has interpreted a piece of fiction
like girl i literally don’t care if you don’t ship them why are you all up in MY business about how i’ve interpreted legolas and gimli’s ending as aligning with early-mid 20th century queer coding??
#lotr#lord of the rings#the hobbit#tolkien#gimleaf#gigolas#makes me angry and also amuses me#sure the dude who runs around singing silly songs isn’t at least a LITTLE BIT gay??#wdym most of the other male characters get married to women and have children?#and these two go off together and then sail to elf heaven??#like that’s basically how queer couples existed for a large portion of history
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Reading/listening to Two Towers and people really do have a reason to ship Sam and Frodo huh? They’re really queering it up!
#sam staring at frodo sleeping ‘i really love him’#sam: frodo i will lay my arm around you so you can sleep… your sam will protect you’#YOUR SAM#paraphrasing but he did say your sam#and ‘i love him’ TWICE in the same paragraph#such sinfun sinful gay thoughts#ppl are like ‘if you only have make characters ppl will start to see gay relationships everywhere’#girl the gay has been there#even if it werent for the males only#lotr#lord of the rings#two towers#tolkien#pp personal posts
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hey do you guys remember how in the third hobbit movie they literally threw fili’s corpse off a cliff then they were like anyways stream twenty minute long thorin death scene bagginshield hurt no comfort tw major character death and fili was never mentioned again. that’s the price of having swag
#thorin does have swag but he’s also cringe fail and I love that. kili has very little swag and that’s fine#but fili literally got all the swag from his mom and what did he get? three speaking lines no character arc unceremonial death. while gay#the hobbit#tolkien#lotr#bagginshield#no hate to bagginshield btw but my man fili deserved better#Peter Jackson you will not see the gates of heaven because of that movie and a number of other terrible sins
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Okay but like
How much of the Tolkien fandom is homophobic?? Because from my experience Tolkien nerds are always either very homophobic or very queer positive, and I have no clue what the pie chart would show for how large each population is. It’s made me quite afraid of the fandom because I don’t know how to end up in only the gay parts and have had too many unpleasant encounters with the homophobic parts…
I know my exposure is only to a specific set of fans, so I don’t feel like I have enough experience to estimate and I’m just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#sam and frodo out here being jonathan and david levels of obvious#and yet the christians will wail if i choose to see them as more than besties#i have no issue with christians but i’m t i r e d#i’m so tired of people throwing a fit just because their homophobia reacts with my gay#let me read my books in peace i want left alone#but maybe i’ve just been exposed to a loud minority in the fandom?#¯\_(ツ)_/¯#tolkien#lotr#silmarillion#sam and frodo#bagginshield#is also a super cute interpretation#i know tolkien didn’t write Gay on purpose#but for valar’s sake let me ship fictional characters in peace
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Finally finished another Creek outfit drawing. This time we got Tweek the Bard and Craig the Warrior. Decided to put these fits into a D&D setting. And I love any opportunity to draw the whole gang together. (Yeah, I know Jason was part of the gang but, eh. No one cares about the Whites)
I had a lot of fun rendering this thing, especially the clothes of the upper panel.
#digital art#fanart#character art#south park#fandom ships#gay ships#ship art#tweek tweak#craig tucker#craig x tweek#south park creek#creek#jimmy valmer#tolkien black#clyde donovan#craigs gang#dnd#dnd session#dnd art#bard#warrior
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do u ever wonder if tolkien had thoughts about bilbo actually being queer when he established the man was a confirmed bachelor/never had a partner in the end. did he ever had such thoughts never written down. like did his character just run from him and he realized oh this little man is queer queer
#this isn't abt tolkien beliefs or anything#this is more abt the writer experience of writing a character and the character really just taking on a life that#at some point you cant fully just play god as you wish without breaking the character of what they are#i also saw a post abt the language used for referring to queer folks like ya know confirmed bachelors#roommates. *close* friends#that sorta stuff with double meanings#it doesnt even have to necessarily be gay either maybe he just was never interested. just something out of the norm. just sort of queer#lotr#sure it could be war but maybe its something else. i cant speak for him but neither can u#hs rambles
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people on this website are always talking about how we need more serialised longform media with more pointless meandering where nothing happens well NOT ME. get to the fucking point!!!
#<- frustrated exaggeration bordering on lie. i'm not against longform-ness in and of itself#i just feel like a lot of it involves a LOT of wasted time#high quality overarching plot being dragged down by shallow cliché episodic plots#also have i mentioned i fucking hate tolkien-derivative fantasy stereotypes lately. because i really do#shut up about elves. shut up about dwarves. stop endorsing crowdsourced fantasy racism. do your own fucking worldbuilding#<- also exaggeration#you can have elves i guess#it's just that it feels so mean-spirited and misanthropic most of the time???#like. welcome to my fantasy world. these are trolls. they're stupid. these are dwarves. they're ugly. these are elves. they're gay (derogat#like???#would it kill you to treat everyone you're claiming is a person like a person#they don't need to be full three-dimensional main characters but could they at least not be caricatures#it's just not pleasant to read about. it's cruel. it leaves you feeling grimy#~oooh fantasy is the genre of WONDER and BEAUTY- then why does it feel like the author hates everyone in it???
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Retelling The Hobbit Chapter 16: The Song of the Lonely Mountain First chapter / Previous / Next
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*crumbles into dust after finishing this* Thank you for reading! This The Hobbit webcomic adaptation thing takes a lot of effort to put together and I can’t tell you how much I appreciate every comment. I also really appreciate the people who’ve spread the word of this comic to their friends! <3
And finally, we’re at the Song of the Lonely Mountain! Within Tolkien’s canon, The Hobbit is an in-universe book that was “written” by Bilbo Baggins, who occasionally lies/embellishes/exaggerates things. The tonal differences between The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are explained by Bilbo and Frodo/Sam being different kinds of storytellers, with different relationships to “the truth.” This idea is the core of how I’m adapting the novel! Bilbo is an unreliable narrator who is literally ‘drawing’ from his own limited experiences; the different art styles reflect the different perspectives of other characters. The “dwarf art style” in this chapter is inspired by stonework/metalwork in general— but especially by a mix of art deco, Celtic art, and European folk art.
The central tension of the comic is between Bilbo and Thorin, who each have wildly different ideas about what kind of story they’re in. Thorin is in a grand fantasy epic, while Bilbo is in a lighthearted children’s book adventure. The tragedy is, obviously, that only one side of the story ever gets to be fully told.
On a sillier note, a few years ago I had my first gay crush on a lesbian who sang while playing the piano. This chapter is dedicated to the piano lesbian. I hope they’re doing well, wherever they are. XD
I think I might need a bit of a break but I’m hoping for the next chapter, titled “Dawn,” to arrive on January 13th. And your comments/support really do help motivate me to get more done! ^_^
#lotr#the hobbit#bagginshield#the hobbit comic#retelling the hobbit#lord of the rings#thorin oakenshield#bilbo baggins#YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET#anyway *crumbles into dust*#the slowest burn bagginshield fic of all time???#it will become canon in approximately 84 years#i would say its the most high effort fanfic in the hobbit fandom but ive got lots of competition for that#god works hard but Hobbit fans work harder and etc etc#long post
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Fundamentally I believe that writing about the rich and varied human existence is so important, and authors who do this end up seeming prescient in ways that naive analysis often rejects.
Two examples. First; a lot of people ship Frodo/Sam or Legolas/Gimli (or more obscure gay ships like Maedhros/Fingon), and some people say stuff like “well, Tolkien was catholic, he clearly didn’t intend for these characters to be gay.” But Tolkien himself says that he doesn’t write Christian allegory, in fact he despises all allegory. What he does is write about the rich and varied human existence, and when he did so he drew on the experiences of the likely closeted gay and bisexual men he had met over his life! And he synthesized this as just a way people behave, not as ‘representation’ but reality. And we can recognize that while in the early twentieth century, the 15% of people that identify as bisexual in the current generation (gen Z) would likely have married people of the opposite gender, that doesn’t mean they didn’t have same-gender relationships that had romantic elements even if they were never consummated.
A second example; in Tamora Pierce’s the Song of the Lioness Quartet, Alanna, the main character, dresses as a boy and trains to be a knight. As she grows up, she has to re-learn to connect with her femininity in secret with the few people who know who she is (thus making her a paradoxically-apt role model for both trans men and trans women, depending on which parts of the narrative one projects oneself onto). But Alanna never feels truly comfortable as a woman, either, and constantly has to assert both her masculinity and femininity to different people once she becomes a knight and reveals the secret. Tamora Pierce has since stated that if Alanna were born in the modern day, she would likely identify as genderfluid. But these books were written in the 1980s, and while there were people in that time period who were exploring the language of nonbinary and genderfluid identities, it wasn’t really a widespread notion, and while I can’t be sure Tamora Pierce didn’t encounter that language I sort of doubt Alanna was intended from the beginning to fit that identity. Instead, Pierce wrote a character based on the people she knew in life, who perhaps uncomfortably chafed at their assigned gender, and wrote a character who really believably would be genderfluid today, despite (plausibly) not knowing what ‘genderfluid’ was!
And I think that’s beautiful. There’s not really a point to this but just to highlight a perspective in literary analysis that you can lose if you focus too much on the biographical details of the author.
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Inside of you there are two wolves.
One wolf says that Sam and Frodo’s relationship is not romantic, and all the affection and moments between them that might make a modern reader question how platonic it truly is are simply moments inspired by soldiers in wwi, where tragedy and horror brought people together, ignoring societal norms such as the amount of affection you can show your friend before it’s seen as anything other that what it really is. When you live in a reality where death is all around and you’re lonely and starving and miss home and you might die tomorrow, and you got no one else but your companion, you are bound to become closer and create a bond that is unlike any other friendship. Their relationship is also influenced by the fact that Tolkien is a medievalist, and in the Middle Ages affection between a pair of friends was more normalized and there’s plenty of medieval literature where the characters have relationships similar to those of Sam and Frodo. The reader needs to let go of their modern lenses and see the story while acknowledging it’s temporal context and background.
The other wolf says that Sam and Frodo’s parallels with Lúthien and Beren, Tolkien’s amount of queer friends, and just how different their relationship has been since the start, before the horrors even began, is gay asf. He also says, and I quote, “if Frodo isn’t gay I’ll eat my hat”.
Both wolves are correct.
#tolkien#frodo baggins#samwise gamgee#‘they are gay’ ‘they are straight’#girl they are schrödinger's cat#samfro#samfrodo#lotr#lord of the rings
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happy pride month to EVERY tolkien character bc theyre ALL GAY AS FUCK but especially to:
sauron - raging homosexual. once he got seduced by melkor then seduced celebrimbor then seduced the king of numenor you start to recognize a pattern 🏳️🌈⁉️
glorfindel and erestor - tolkien basically confirmed they're a thing by having them ride to minas tirith together
the sons of feanor - extremely homosexual especially maedhros
fingon - bro he is so gay that even after his bf betrayed him and he had to cross the helcaraxe bc of it he STILL has to be even gayer and rescue him from thangorodrim
aredhel - idc she's a masc lesbian
galadriel and samwise gamgee - bisexual icons
#pride#gay#woo#pride month#silmarillion#tolkien#lotr#happy pride 🌈#maedhros#sauron#russingon#glorestor#mairon#angbang
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they will nawt back down and have somehow come to the conclusion that sam’s nose and facial features mean that he has a twinks body BRO ITS A HEADSHOT. anyway enjoy my block
someone called my samwise twinkified 😭😭 bro i gave him eyelashes and pink cheeks arrest me
#their proof is that he doesnt look like the character from the movie#BECOME BOOKPILLED RIGHT NOW#SNORT SOME TOLKIEN#bro doesnt gaf about the physical appearance of hobbit or human men#now if ur an elf or a woman its another story#SEAN ASTIN IS LOVELY BUT MY SAM IS FROM MY GAY LITTLE MIND#i do accept the movie vision of him as strawberry blond tho
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Bilbo Baggins
from The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings series by J. R. R. Tolkien



#I can't believe i haven't posted him earlier tbh#bilbo baggins#thorin x bilbo#< it came up as a suggested tag so.. may as well#the hobbit#lord of the rings#lotr#j. r. r. tolkien#classic literature#polls#queer#new post
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For my fellow lovers of pushing buttons. I just wanted to have a post to shout out different poll blogs that I can link to and add to. If you want me to add your blog or shout one out, let me know.
EDIT: I've reached the tag limit and realized there is a link limit so I have a carrd I'm using as a poll directory so continue to let me know of poll blogs! I'll add blogs here as links but there's also a link limit, so the carrd will probably be most up-to-date.
I've crossed out the ones that seem to have been deleted/deactivated, but if it's still there and just changed urls let me know.
General Polls ● the-polls (this blog) ● incognitopolls ● apolladay ● anonymous-polling ● anon-polls-for-you ● justcuriouspolls ● oddpolls ● swarm-of-polls-in-a-trench-coat ● thisthat-ortheother ● yesornopolls ● parttimepolls ● reblogforsamplesize ● whatcha-thinkin ● i-reblog-every-poll-i-see ● augmentedpolls ● polls-drugs-etc ● lamp-polls ● pollforthesoul ● poll-boy ● curiositysavesthecat ● anonpolls ● just-a-blog-for-polls ● yayornaypolls ● pollsforpondering ● themostrandompolls ● poll-position ● anonym-polls ● pollsgalore
NSFW (18+) Polls ● spicypolls
Poll Adjacent ● poll-stats ● seeresultssweep
Identity Specific Polls ● aspecpolls - Aspec ● aro-polls - Aromantic ● asexualpolls - Asexual ● gaypolls - Gay/Lesbian ● lesbianpolls - Lesbian ● mspecpolls - MSpec (Bi, Pan, Omni, etc.) ● transgenderpolls - Transgender ● nonbinary-polls - Nonbinary ● gnc-polls - Gender Non-Conforming ● queer-questions-and-polls - Queer ● queer-polls - Queer ● plurality-polls - plurality / systems ● plurality-polls-2 - plurality / systems
Fandom Polls ● pollsnatural - Supernatural (TV) ● tmapolls - The Magnus Archives (Podcast) ● onepiece-polls - One Piece (Anime/Manga) ● anon-scp-polls - SCP ● middleearth-polls - LOTR, The Hobbit, Tolkien ● bts-polls - BTS (Kpop) ● swiftpolls - Taylor Swift (Singer) ● dragonagepolls - Dragon Age (Game) ● sdv-polls - Stardew Valley (Game) ● tally-polls - Tally Hall (Banad) ● loonathepoll - Loona (Kpop) ● dungeonmeshi-polls - Dungeon Meshi ● animalcrossingopinionpoll - Animal Crossing Character Opinions ● nether-have-i-ever - The game "never have i ever" but for Minecraft
"Do you know..." or "Have you seen/played/etc" Polls ● haveyouseenthismovie-poll - Movies ● haveyouseenthisqueerfilm - Queer Films ● haveyouseenthis90smovie - 90s Movies ● haveyouseenthishorrormovie - Horror Movies ● haveyouseenthisromcom - RomComs ● haveyouseenthismusical - Musicals ● doyouknowthischaracter - Characters ● haveyouheardthispodcast - Podcasts ● doyouknowthisanime - Anime ● do-you-know-this-youtuber - YouTubers ● haveyoureadthisbook-poll - Books ● haveyoureadthistransbook - Trans Books ● haveyoureadthispoem-poll - Poems ● haveyouplayedthisgame - Video Games ● haveyouplayedthisirlgame-poll - IRL Games ● doyouknowthistmntau - TMNT AUs ● doyouknowthisdisabledcharacter - Disabled Characters ● areyouthisidentity-polls - Gender/Sexuality ● haveyouplayedthisttrpg - Tabletop Role-playing Games ● doyouknowthisactor - Actors ● doyouknowa - Names ● fictionalfoodpolls - Would you eat [x] fictional food? ● watchlist-poll - Movie Watchlist
Tournaments ● whoishotteranimepolls ● chuunibyou-showdown ● hotvintagepoll ● vgtrackbracket ● mlmshipbracket ● spicymalepolls (18+) ● which-is-the-very-best ● does-it-like-women ● adaptations-polls
Other ● which-item-poll ● rate-a-spam-bot ● daily-oc-polls ● horrorpolls ● hypothetipolls ● trivia-polls-daily
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Okay.
Something that brings all of us together is our love for Tolkien's work, and its spinoffs.
So, question: What got you into Tolkien?
I'll start.
When I was 12, my father urged me to read The Hobbit. So I did, and I was mesmerized by it, to the point where I'd stay up in the middle of the night to read it. I never got beyond that, though.
Two years ago, I decided to reread it, and I fell in love all over again with the story, characters, Tolkien's writing style, everything. So I decided to read The Lord of the Rings. I got the first book, read a couple of chapters.. and gave up. It was too verbose, too prosaic.
The next year, that is, a few months later, I tried my hand at it again. This time, I got through four chapters, but I still couldn't read the rest. Then.. I began crushing on a guy who'd read it, and so I grit my teeth and went for it. I read, and read, and this time, I found myself enjoying it. Bonus, the guy and I got into conversation.
After finally finishing the first book, I even started the second, and watched the first movie with my family. (By way of flirting I asked the guy whether he liked PJ's Trilogy, and he told me he "found them low budget" so that, um, ended. I'm no longer crushing on real people.)
I read the second, the third book, reread The Hobbit a third time, watched all the movies, and joined Tumblr. Then I got motivated to read The Silmarillion. I'm currently working on that, as well as my Tolkien collection.
Honestly, one thing that fuels my love for the work is all my lovely mutuals who I've gained through this love.
So.. no pressure tags: @gauntletgirlie @wowstrawberrycow @valar-did-me-wrong @balrogballs @ghost-of-morrowbright @gingeragenda @greenleaf4stuff @dragon--ashes @dwarveslikeshinythings @numenoria @onebillionblorbos @zaldritzosrose @varda-star-queen @the-bogginses-are-gay @permanentlyexhaustedpigeon88 @daughterofthesunlands @princessfantaghiro and anyone else I've missed/wants to join.
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