#furfur speaks

[furfurs-fotos]

You. Listen. Some of the Eric have been turned into babies.

@lower-management and @fishyfiles both have one. I need photos…think you can do it?

- @thedemon-crowley x

Gotcha. When should I stop by?

[furfurs-fotos]

You might think my shirt was about gay pride, but actually I was just so proud I finally got the flaming drink machine to work for me.

Pride month in Hell 🏳️‍🌈

a little gomens drawing i did a while back

[celestialcrowley]

“Why don’t you watch your favorite shows with other people?”

Because I shout things. Because I write metas and fan fiction. Because I see myself in Crowley. Because of the love I have for the thin dark duke. For the angel who isn’t as soft as he says he is. For the demon Hastur who unexpectedly grew on me. For the stylish demon Furfur who brought new meaning to pronouncing Aziraphale’s name.

Because I’m weird. Silly. Passionate. It’s not a side of me that my friends know. It’s probably a side of me that they never will know. Except one.

When we find our people — the ones who support our fan fiction, metas or art, the ones we can shout things to, the ones we can shout things with, the ones we can talk with, cry about the sad bits with and laugh about the silly moments with — it’s beautiful.

My friend — whom I’ve known for over twenty years — recently finished Good Omens, and we definitely shouted about it. It was fantastic!

This guy is my longest standing friend, so we tell each other everything. Conversations get strange and chaotic. He’s legit made my demonic cackle come out several times. It happens when I think something is exceptionally funny. He does not write fan fiction, but he supports that I write it. He’s someone I can bounce ideas off of or send something completely bizarre to when writer’s block is slaying me. I can completely be myself with him.

I’m so very grateful to have him in my weird little world. He’s like the Aziraphale to my Crowley. 💚

[the-demon-team]

You guys (gender neutral) should make a pillow fort. Make sure @duke-hastur and @ligur-duke-of-hell have their own room ;)

Terrible idea. Let's do it!

[furfurs-fotos]

Important Announcement, Everybody!

Under the care of my physician, @docdust, who performed a special several-hour external and internal massage, I gave birth to twins early this morning. Meet Furfurbaby and Furfurby!

There are multiple fathers for each, as they are furturnal twins. But please don't treat them differently based on their different parentage or their different appearances.

After giving birth, I licked each baby clean like all deer mothers do--even though neither baby appears to have inherited my deer traits, nor my reptile tongue. But that's alright, I love them all the same. And I'm sure the next babies will favour me more.

[furfurs-fotos]

I'm glad someone finally appreciates my beauty.

Why so pretty?😭

[shattering-the-mirror]

Wait.

Armageddon was planned before the first war, before the Fall.

Based on what we've seen onscreen, this is the timeline of Heaven as we know it:

"Upstairs" makes plans for the universe, the Earth, and humans. One of these plans is that "we'll be shutting this all down again in about 6000 years"

Angel!Crowley creates a nebula with Aziraphale's help, and Aziraphale tells him the plans for the lifespan of the universe. Crowley is upset by this, and wonders what the point of it is.

In Furfur's words, "dubious battle on the planes of Heaven". Both Crowley and Furfur fought. They were likely in the same legion, though Crowley doesn't remember this.

The Fall

The Beginning

So Earth was planned to have a 6000 year lifespan prior to the Fall. This must mean that Armageddon origially had a purpose other than a second war, right?

Or, were both wars planned all along? We know God plays games with the universe, but did She plan to banish a large portion of Her angels prior to their uprising?

I feel like I have as many questions as the Starmaker, and likely some of the same questions as him too!

[cloudsrust]

The duality of how I treat this demon aka he is very silly to me but lately I'm thinking too much about Temptations!Furfur,, help-

[duke-hastur]

Throw this at you and runs away

@furfurs-fotos and I actually dated for a while. He was a rebound while I was grieving. Things got awkward when @ligur-duke-of-hell came back to life.

[furfurs-fotos]

good omens s2 except it’s just me <3 :p

good omens s2 except it’s just furfur because he’s my favorite character for some reason <3

[furfurblogs]

People only keep liking our vent/crisis posts, #fml.

[ineffableteeth]

So I was rewatching Good omens and I realized something.

Season 2 brings up Memory. A lot

Specifically Crowleys memory

In every episode something is said about it and I find this really interesting

I’m only going to bring up what I think are major, I want to note there are more instances than this. This is gonna be messy and a little disorganized since I’m just throwing my words on this post as I think of them and read the episode transcripts but I had to write it out.

In Episode 1 we see pre-fall Crowley and are introduced to our amnesiac archangel. This will be important later

We don’t see much of Crowleys memory loss in this episode but the biggest example I could find was the way Beelzebub had said Extreme Sanctions after Crowley misunderstood

It was as if they were expecting him to remember

In Episode 2 we get the first blatant hint of Crowleys memory loss

When Gabriel said he couldn’t remember, Crowley doesn’t say “Well try anyway”

He says “Yes you can.”

Crowley knew Gabriel could remember, he knew he could make himself remember. As if he knew it from experience.

Also in this episode we get Crowleys “I’m a demon, I lied.” As well as several other instances where he lies in this episode.

I also feel like his “Lonliness” is important to point out, because I feel like that goes much much deeper than “[I’m on] my side”

In Episode 3 we get Crowley and Gabriel’s Conversation about “Gravity”

Crowley knows what gravity is on a base level. But he says “I don’t remember” when asked why gravity exists and proceeds to give a very nondescript explanation

Now for Episode 4. This episode is actually what triggered me to start looking for these instances.

Because of Furfur

Near the end of the episode when Furfur enters the dressing room he mentions that him and Crowley were directly next to eachother during the Great War, as well as the fact Crowley used to jump on his back “Like a little monkey in a waistcoat”

And Crowley didn’t remember

All he remembered was going to war

Why does Furfur — A demon — remember but Crowley doesn’t?

In Episode 5 we get one of the most crucial ‘memory’ scenes imo

The aftermath of Crowley threatening Gabriel

When Gabriel tells Crowley “It hurts to remember, my head isn’t built for that” Crowley replies with “I know, do it anyway”

Again it sounds like Crowley is speaking from experience

The most important quote to me though is when Crowley says “I know, looking at where the furniture isn’t.”

Because after the fact he proceeds to ask Gabriel if he wants a hot chocolate

This wasn’t a sympathetic action. It was Empathetic.

He feels for Gabriel, he knows what it’s like to not know

Finally in Episode 6 we get context.

This is where the whole amnesiac archangel comes into play.

Before I get into that though I want to bring up Crowleys meeting with Saraquael. Because something interesting stood out to me while reading her voicelines. After Crowley asks “Do we know eachother?” Saraquael says “When you were an Angel” and pauses before she says the following voiceline “We worked together on the horsehead nebula”

Those were two different sentences. I’m definitely looking too far into this but to me it sounded like she knew he wouldn’t remember so she gave unnecessary context. This as well as the fact she didn’t respond when Crowley essentially said he didn’t remember her.

Back to my original point though, during this episode we finally learn how (and why) Gabriel lost his memories. Angels can remove their own memories as well as have their memories removed by other angels.

But clearly Furfur still has his memories, as well as Shax, Dagon, and Beelzebub

And anytime Crowley mentions “remembering” something it’s post-fall

Adding on Neil’s post about “Crowley not being a reliable narrator on his fall” as well as showing Crowley pre-fall in episode one leads me to believe there’s some foreshadowing in there and something happened to Crowleys memory.

But What?

Why doesn’t he remember?

What did they do to him?

[cobragardens]

The 3 Falls of Anthony J Crowley

So far, Crowley has told three different stories to three different audiences about why he Fell, and there's some important information that can be inferred from them. Let's get nerdy.

(Nb. C. 25% of this is from a previous post I made about Crowley's memory problems.)

Here's Crowley's 1st story (gifs courtesy of Fuck Yeah Good Omens), in 1867:

In Book Omens this line is narration about Crowley, and means that Crowley didn't embrace evil and side with Hell so much as he just wasn't into the whole Heaven shindig.

In Show Omens, this phrase becomes a little more fraught, because Crowley says it about himself, and he says it to Aziraphale.

Aziraphale has just disagreed with Crowley's assertion that the two of them have a lot in common. Az thinks Crowley means their origins as angels, and demurs, "I don't know. We may have both started off as angels, but you are fallen."

But what Crowley means, as we find out in pretty much every other scene the two of them share in S1 and S2, is that that he and Aziraphale have a lot in common now, in their current positions. He wants Aziraphale to see him as a friend--and to be his friend--so he elides the difference his Fallenness makes to Aziraphale, all "Ehhh, it wasn't really a fall kind of Fall, it wasn't that bad."

Also, given the conversation they have in the Final Fifteen, I feel like his phrasing is kind of important here, because falling is not voluntary, but sauntering is. In saying this Crowley is claiming that to some degree he chose to reject Heaven.

It's entirely possible that Crowley may have been lying to Aziraphale in 1867--he is, as he says, a demon, and he's lied to him before to make something bad seem less bad--but maybe not. Remember what the Metatron says about Crowley:

And this is another interesting point: The Metatron knew Crowley as an angel. The Metatron. The being who, after shepherding Aziraphale out of the bookshop, turned back and looked at Crowley with hate.

(And tense music playing, in case you weren't sure.)

So maybe that's it. Maybe Crowley just chose to be on his own side.

But in 2019, and addressing God, Crowley's story of his Fall is slightly different:

I think we can take this as Crowley's sincere belief. It's unlikely that he would lie when speaking to God, because that is Aziraphale's job because he doesn't have any reason to do so: God hasn't been listening to Crowley for 6,000 years at this point, and if She were listening, lying would not work. So Crowley probably believes he's telling the truth here with this story: Crowley believes one reason he Fell is that he asked questions.

But is he right?

Another line from the Metatron:

The Metatron seems to speak of Crowley's habit of asking questions as though he finds it obnoxious rather than damning, so maybe the questions weren't the problem. Then again we know that the Metatron is a lying piece of shit and an authoritarian who doesn't want his regime questioned, willing to erase memories and destroy lives to cover up the 'institutional problem' that Heaven doesn't know what the Plan is and is run by a handful of warmongers who want everyone dead or indentured.

Either way, this is the third time in the series someone has talked about the problem of Crowley asking questions, so my guess is his questions were probably a salient feature of his Fall.

Onward!

Before we look at the 3rd story, remember that we have strong evidence now that Crowley has had his memories erased by Heaven.

But we also know Furfur, another demon, still has his memories. Inference: Heaven don't erase the memories of every angel who Falls. This suggests that Heaven erased Crowley's memories because he had knowledge in those memories Heaven didn't want him to have anymore.

This may not be specific knowledge. We know Crowley has a high security clearance in Heaven and therefore must have been a high-ranking angel, and we know he created a nebula with Saraqael, so presumably there was a lot of stuff in his head Heaven wanted stripped out.

But I think there was something specific, and here's why. Firstly, there's no reason to assume that importance in Heaven is a guarantee of importance in Hell. Furfur could have been a high-ranking angel too before ending up an admin in Hell. (Hell does not seem to be any more of a meritocracy than Heaven does.)

Secondly, it's clear that Crowley doesn't know his memories have been erased. If he knew, then when Furfur says "We were in the same Legion? Just before the Fall? Doing dubious battle on the Plains of Heaven? Remember?" he'd say something like "Don't be stupid, of course I don't remember, Heaven erased my memories."

Instead he says,

Now, maybe Crowley is just being a dick here. Certainly we're supposed to take it that way until he goes up to Heaven with Muriel and doesn't remember Saraqael either.

But what if he's being truthful? If Crowley is being honest (and a dick), that would mean the Fash didn't erase all of Crowley's memories of his time in Heaven. We know this because Furfur says he and Crowley fought together "on the Plains of Heaven," and "just before the Fall" [emphasis added].

This suggests that Maybe Heaven didn't erase time from Crowley's memory. Maybe they erased people.

Okay, now here's Crowley's 3rd story about how he Fell:

It's a cute line, but what if it's not just a throwaway joke referencing what people say about kids who go down the wrong path and become criminals?

Crowley mutters this 3rd story to himself, so we can be confident Crowley believes this to be true. But Crowley doesn't know who the wrong people are. He doesn't know whose company got him thrown out of Heaven, because his memories of all those people have been taken from him.

And taken together, these three stories and Crowley's stolen memories suggest a bigger, more disturbing inference: Crowley doesn't know why he Fell. (Or sauntered vaguely downwards.)

Like Crowley, Job was once a favorite of God. But he has fallen out of that favor and been delivered to demons for reasons God refuses to tell him.

We the audience are meant to draw a parallel between Job and Crowley. We know this not just because of the speech Crowley cathartically gives Job's goats, in which everything he says to the goats can be just as easily applied to Job or himself, but from two other indications. Here's one:

Job is wearing Crowley's color.

The other is the minisode title, "A Companion to Owls." This phrase comes from the Book of Job, specifically Job 30:29. Job, lamenting what has happened to him, says,

 I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.

In Biblical symbolism, dragon=serpent=snake=demon. And in some Mesopotamian beliefs--one of them Judaism--owls were associated with demons as well:

and

and

So the Job of the Bible is saying in this verse the same thing the Job of Good Omens says: God has forsaken me and delivered me to demons. Or even: God has forsaken me and I am now being treated like demons are treated.

And he's also saying something else. In the Bible, owls symbolize loneliness, desolation, and solitude. They're consistently depicted as living in barren, abandoned, isolated places. Seriously. Go search owl(s) in a Biblical concordance and read all 30 entries: it comes up a lot. If you're a companion to owls, you're alone (except for the owls) in the wilderness. You're forsaken.

WHOMST do we know whose signal color is yellow, who's a brother of demons, and who admits at the end of the episode that being alone and forsaken in the wilderness is lonely?

So. Job, a character whose claim to fame is that God punished him and he didn't know why, is a mirror character to Crowley. This on its own isn't enough to say definitely that Crowley doesn't know why he Fell, but combined with the three different stories he tells about his Fall, I think there's enough textual evidence to conclude that Crowley isn't entirely sure why he fell; he only has educated guesses. Either he knew and the memory was erased, or he was never told at all.

My question about Crowley's Fall is this: Who pushed him?

Was Crowley's Fall an act of God Herself, or was it an act of Heaven? What did the fucking Metatron have to do with it? What was Crowley's crime? When Aziraphale takes charge of Heaven and the Second Coming, will he read Crowley's file?

[furfurs-fotos]

"some guy from requisitions"

Is that all I am to you???

When the Hell party appeared in the bookshop after the raid, why was Furfur there? Like, an angel has just violated the celestial equivalent of the Geneva Conventions and the people invited to the scene are the Grand Duke, a Duke, and then…some guy from requisitions???

[celestialcrowley]

Hello, everybody!

This is a bit of a mash up post.

Life’s gotten super busy again! I’m back on that overtime at work as two people have jumped ship. It’s why I’ve been less active here.

Anyway, I’m still writing my fiction. It’s officially got a title — Memory Reboot — and it’s gonna be full of angst and fluff. To make it to the fluff, we must first survive the angst. I have a beta — @sad-chaos-goblin 💚

I’ve created an original character for Good Omens, and — after some thought — I’ve decided to make room for him in Memory Reboot. His name is Raven, and he’s a Nephilim — half angel, half demon. He’s been very fun to create.

I have also made a secondary blog for him because I thought I’d return to RP. It’s been quite some time since I’ve done it, so I’m probably a bit rusty, but I’ve found myself missing it.

Raven can be found at @raven-the-nephilim if anyone would like to interact with him. He is available for both original and existing characters.

Lastly — I can’t say this enough. Thank you, everyone, for your support and kindness and for making my return to tumblr a lovely experience! The Good Omens fandom is absolutely wonderful and truly has been a breath of fresh air. 💚

[the-demon-team]

*licks Furfur*

@furfurs-fotos: *resists the urge to lick back*

@ligur-duke-of-hell: what's wrong with him? why isn't he licking?

@duke-hastur: he's trying to stay faithful to one of his wives, @trans-darbie

@duchess-shax: pathetic. I mean, he always was, but now he's even more pathetic.

@ligur-duke-of-hell: you wanna try that, too, Hastur? this staying faithful thing?

@duke-hastur: ...possibly.

@duchess-shax: *shakes her head* well I'm not giving in to peer pressure. I'm staying a whore.