#fuck enji todoroki

[spinji]

I feel like the fandom kind of gaslit itself into forgetting that All Might is a whole ass decade older than Endeavor. And the potential there is so funny.

All Might coming back to Japan after training in the states like-

[tofumilkbread]

Thinking about Pro hero!Touya who's a bigger peice of shit than Canon!Touya.

This man have never been on streets, he's the typical rich dude who haven't cooked a day in his life or did any chores for that matter. He's gonna tease you to death and his love language is personal attack.

I'm so sorry if you ever met him.

[guardianspirits13]

the trolldorokis

[haine-kleine]

whatever. you know who really deserved to get a glimpse of baby Tenko's life at his home and at his father's abuse via magic memories voodoo bullshit?

this guy.

can't believe Horikoshi Mr Parallels Kohei missed this opportunity.

Dabi would have snatched Tenko out of there and burned that house down so fast. and when Tenko would start crying and questioning why was he so broken that he never deserved to be saved, he would say what Tenko actually didn't deserve was to be treated this way by his family, didn't deserve to be abandoned.

and even if it's late, even if the memories are not real, Touya would have saved Tenko's heart by seeing the unfair hurt inflicted on him and reaching out to save him.

[vivika-ka]

Some instances that I feel show how some messages in MHA are detrimental, especially on how victims react to their abuser, can be gauged by responses that tend to be highly prevalent in the fandom.

(Definitely not every fan, but a great majority).

Endeavor is a great example. Whenever you post criticizing his approach to atonement (and ultimately criticizing Horikoshi’s writing), you get BOMBARDED by people either belittling you for not liking his character or essentially forcing you to like his character by frantically writing “at least he tried” arguments.

If I have the CHOICE whether to forgive his character or not, especially given he goes through an atonement arc and not a redemption arc, why is any form of criticism about his abusive behavior and essentially his abuse of power practically ignored by the story unacceptable?

The message was detrimental because people operate on the notion that for victims to be good people, they must forgive and even help their abusers. MHA presents people who choose not to forgive him as either a monster (Toya) or inconvenient (Natsuo). And if they are still unforgiving, they must admire the abuser for doing the bare minimum (taking responsibility; this is also about Natsuo).

Essentially, they are considered "imperfect victims" because they weren't merciful in their approach to their abuser.

The majority of the fandom tends to ignore the lack of actual consequences for Endeavor's actions because he vows to talk to Toya every day. Insisting that doing the bare minimum, which is recognizing his son's existence and suffering, became his "hell" is a wildly fucked up message, in my opinion.

It harps on the issue mentioned above that if a victim isn't receptive to forgiveness or doesn't act "demure," they are seen as an inconvenience—which is how the Todoroki family ultimately views Toya.

On a less critical note, I'll vent, so if you don't like this, just ignore it.

I'm so fucking tired of stories depicting imperfect victims as people who deserve death and torture. Plus, having to be on the brunt of so many people acting like you're morally fucked because you're not impressed with how a writer handled abuse. Horikoshi is not the first writer to try to atone a character who is an abuser (and he isn't the first to fail at that, either).

I'm not about to dick-ride every decision every author makes. Especially if the message convinces some audience members that victims are inherently broken if they can't bring themselves to forgive and/or admire someone who hurt them.

[mrentrapta]

Endeavor essentially bought his wife and yall want to act like the fact that I think it was implied sexaul assault /rape is "reach" is fucking weird as hell.

Either way, the man is a creep. And these are all the reasons Endeavor is irredeemable, in my opinion.

Endeavor was also so physically abusive that his wife had to go to the mental hospital AND STAYED THERE from when Shoto was extremely young until after the war . But there's more to that.

Let's think logically. His wife is unlucky as hell and is unfortunately from the poor side of her rich ass sweet home Alabama ass family, and this is quite literally the only reason they get married.

She is implied to have no education, and even she did it probably doesn't go past high school, so she can't leave either . Like what is she to do man.

She can not leave, and a part of the reapson she stays in the mental hospital that long is to avoid endeavor. Endeavor doesn't even actually care until after he gets molly whopped and is in the hospital crying like a little bitch.

He only really truly wanted to start being better after All might retired so yeah, fucking weirdo

He really js cast her and his other kids aside, but remembers when it's convenient, especially with Touya.

The only person he actively tries to have a better relationship with that takes ANY effort from him more than apologies and crying is Shoto.

I need yall to understand that if Sho didn't get a daul quirk, Endeavor would if kept having more and more and more children.

Touya knew that he was only of use as a hero, that that is the only reason he is even alive and this is why he hated Shoto. Endeavor is the fucking problem here.

He handles Touya in the worst way, and the main reason he essentially told him to give up on being a hero and just be OK with it is because he didn't gaf about it and didn't even consider that he would gaf about being a hero when thats what he was breeded to do.

He had Shoto, and in a universe where he didn't then he probably would have tried harder to find a way to help Touya

[poppy5991]

The hypothetical concept of All Might wanting to friends with Endeavor early on is so funny to me. Imagine everyone hero worships you and doesn’t really see you as a human being. And you are mostly alone because you’re worried that AFO will kill people you love.

And then there’s a new young hero on the scene who just doesn’t act very impressed and is not engaging in the hero worship BS. Maybe you can be like work buddies BUT NO HE HATES YOUR FUCKING ASS FOR NO APPARENT REASON AND DEDICATES HIS ENTRIE CAREER TO ONE-UPPING YOU. HE EVEN TRAINS HIS CHILD TO DO SO.

HAHAHAHA poor All Might

[frogsformax]

thinking about endeavor holding you close to his chest late at night. His deep breaths lulling you to sleep as the warmth radiating off of his body relaxes your aching muscles. His firm, yet soft chest making the comfiest pillow as one of his ginormous arms wrap around your waist as you snuggle into him. You’re tiny compared to him but thats what he loves. You’re his princess, his baby, the one he spoils and loves and cares for with his heart, soul, and wallet.

“Its alright baby you can go to sleep early, ive got you” he mumbles against your ear, his stubble brushing against your neck. His words flowing through your bloodstream like thick molten glass, cooling as it hit your nerve endings and shattering like a prince ruperts drop, sending a shock of arousal through your body at your boyfriends rumbly voice.

He never leaves either, holding you tight throughout the night and still being there when you wake up in the morning to kiss your forehead and listen to you babble about your dreams. His attentiveness doesnt fade throughout the day either. He takes you shopping and lets you test out makeup on his arms, holding your tiny hand in his as he passes of his metal black card to the cashier.

You’re his baby, so he buys you all the things you could ever want so he can hear how cute you sound when you’re excited.

You’re his baby so he lets you decide when you’re on your knees with his cock in your mouth, so he can hear all the cute noises you make when he fucks your throat.

You’re all his and he makes sure of that, leaving your pussy filled and your mind hazy as he holds you close every night, lulling you to sleep with his deep voice, because thats just what boyfriends are for.

[thr0wnawayy]

I've just checked the "new" epilogue chapter

It really was that bad.

Like, holy fuck. Where do I even begin.

The blatant disservice to the villains and to the intial themes, the complete absence of soul that seems to seep into the very artwork.

Could it be the mannequin like feel of the world. How everyone and everything feels like props placed in a butchered mockery of an attempt to protray "everything's a-ok".

How about Hori not even trying to hide his biases (and sexism) anymore. And Dabi (and Rei), man, fuck.

At least Enji's dead. (I hope)

I understand the translation is a bit wonky. But what the fuck was that "dialog". Especially between Ochaco and Tsu, like how did someone look at that and say "Yeah, looks bout right"

I'll make a more indepth post when I have the time, because this doesn't do it justice.

[tofumilkbread]

Really eating up the Mr. Compress is the league's dad bit.

Mr. Compress when Dabi is trying to kill himself: You are grounded!

Dabi (whole adult): You can't ground me!

Mr. Compress: Grounded!

Dabi: Bitch I'm a villain

Mr. Compress turns Dabi around and points to the stairs to his room.

Mr. Compress: The night, your room. Grounded!

Dabi: This some bullshit!

Dabi stomps upstairs and heads to his room. A door slam is heard and then the sounds of random items being tossed around.

Mr. Compress : He'll work it out his system. I'm going to bed.

Toga (looking at shigaraki confused and then at Mr. Compress as the man heads upstairs): Did he just ground a 24 year old?

Shigaraki: And it worked???? He never listens to me!?

[crepus]

I don't understand endhawks hate just let Keigo be happy with his dilf?

'don't meet your heroes' yeah well keigo did, learned all about the skeletons in his closet and still loves him so who I am to deny a him his old man yaoi??

[comradekarin]

haven’t touched bnha since season four but… you just had to be there for the dabi is a todoroki theory LMAO like we all knewwww it but we were just waiting for hori to officially reveal it. the dabi/shouto fire comparisons, the art, the subtle manga hints etc- what a time to be alive during that era. with that said, has dabi killed his fucking dad yet or what bc im starting to think people playing too much in baby touya’s face to cop for his shit dad………

[dokjas-lostselfpreservation]

THEY CAN NEVER MAKE ME FORGIVE YOU ENDEAVOR. NEVER.

[somethingsad]

We need more dabihawks fics showcasing Dabi's intelligence how tf did that guy ever dig out who Hawks is beyond me

[yepperoniro]

New fucked 3am idea.

Yandere Todoroki Family x youngest Fem Todoroki reader or oc whatever.

Warning Incest and Platonic Yanderes present.

Firstly, Y/N or Yen was born 8 months after Shoto. And she also has the half cold half hot quirk. [Because I'm so creative right @@]

anyway...

Because Shoto existed and was male, Enji didn't pay anymore attention to her than he did any of his other non-shoto kids. That was until one night at dinner when Yen called Toya Daddy. After this, Enji cared. But like Too Fucking much. He became super protective and overbearing. And rest in peace, Toya and Rei [not literally doe] that night because guess who was getting punished for Yen's mistake. And when Yen started growing into her body, things went from bad to worse for her as Enji's overprotective and overbearing became covertly perverse. Bathing with Yen choosing what she wears. When Rei confronted him about this... she was punished for even thinking it was possible. Enji isn't stupid or delusional, though he knows doing anything directly to her would be wrong, so he doesn't, but he does fantasize.

Rei's relationship with Yen is complicated at best. She is Platonic Yandere for her absolutely. She doesn't let Yen learn how to use her quirk because it could harm her. [Enji support this decision] However, most of Rei's punishments once Enji cared about Yen are Yens fault. Yen made a new friend Rei was getting punished. She kinda has been sneakily feeding Yen herbal anti-quirk remedies. [Enji didn't notice this one, though.. just assuming her weakness comes from the lack of training with her quirk.] She knows about Enji's feelings, having heard him moan their daughters name while he yanks it. But she's too afraid to say anything, thinking he might act on his feelings if anyone knew about them.

Dabi / Toya has the second most fucked relationship with Yen. As said before, Yen saw him as her father figure even though they were only 11 years apart. He sympathizes with her the most she was what father wanted but still wasn't enough. She was only 2 when he ran off, but he was still uncomfortably attached to her. Outsiders who would see photos of the two together would always raise an eyebrow. Why is his hand there as he's holding her up. After he woke up from his coma, he became more stalkery towards his family as a whole, but his sister was the most of all. He even became her only friend [Much to Rei's dismay.] in the form of a pin pal. He absolutely never ever put her in any danger. Ever. Even if it would hurt Enji the most, he couldn't handle that. When he blew the whistle on his abusive family, he pointed out the pedophic incestuous relationship his dad has with Yen. He even accused his mom of knowing and supporting his vulgarities to lessen her own abuse. [This was Rei's biggest fear]

Fuyumi isn't Yandere, not even Platonic yandere. She's just obvious. 100% obvious to her only sisters suffering. She knows dad is more protective of her, but she doesn't see the incest. Or the yandere. She also downplays alot of the abuse. But that's with all of the abuse. Not just Yens.

Natsuo is a Platonic yandere who actually has Yens happiness and health in mind incomparasson to the rest of his yandere family members who are all selfish to some extent. And he is, too. To some extent. [ You'll see in a bit.] He is the only one who is fully aware of all of his families yandereness. When the video came out his response was 'pot calling the kettle big brother what the fuck.' He knows that his mom is poisoning Yen but he doesn't know how and what to do about it. But he knows it's happening. He also knows about Shotos' actions and was very very very supportive of him going off to school and leaving. He regularly invites Yen to play games in his room until she falls asleep and he let's her sleep in his room. He does this to protect her from Shoto.

Last but certainly not least Shoto. He has a love-hate relationship with Yen except with yandere and incest. He is the only one who is physical with her, which is awful but good because at least only one of them is. He and her went through puberty around the same time, so he experimented on her often. Due to them having the same quirk, sometimes he reflects on her, and when he's having a bad day with his quirk, he punishes her for it. He is the only one who actually spanks Yen, but it is never when she needs it. Only when he decided she needed it.

Other things that happened in this au.

When the video came out, instead of bringing everyone together, it did the opposite. Rei being fearful of her youngest daughters virginity [she doesn't have because Shoto. But Rei doesn't know that] tries to run away with Yen. She doesn't get to far because Natsuo who knows about everything and is like 'um no fuck that. you've been poisoning her somehow. You can't be trusted either, and so he takes his baby sister from his mom.

Rei demands a divorce, and she is granted one once the video is released. Enji falls into an intense depression because of his wife leaving and taking his baby girl. And now the world knows about his darkest secret, and no one is supporting him. And because no one in this UN has a PR person, all are under the impression he is a child predator, which he kinda is if your his daughter [which you are oof.] Once the divorce goes through Natsuo takes his mom to court to demand custody of Yen because the poisoning... while all this is happening, Dabi has been secretly planning on kidnapping Yen.

Dabi has a Daddy kink for Yen. So does Enji, but ironically, she never calls him daddy only ever Enji or 'dever.

... there is the 3am Idea. Watch me regret posting this when I wake up for work tomorrow.

[mac-n-chees]

man i fucking hate enji todoroki

when i say that i hate endeavor i dont mean i think he’s icky and i dont like him. i mean i dont think he deserved the forgiveness he got im so sorry. for context let’s back things up. the entire todoroki family lore is SO FUCKED UP. the whole “convenience marriage” thing? WHACK. sa-ing rei until she gave him the child he wanted? WHACK. and we don’t talk about that enough! it was rape! he didn’t care about her at all, he just wanted the perfect weapon to beat all might! and then touya’s whole deal? the fact that he was literally self destructing bc he thought he wasn’t good enough? and endeavor never made him feel good enough? he had all the right to become a villain.

and then, shoto. literally alienated him from his siblings so none of them know a single thing about him and vice versa. weaponizing him since he was a TODDLER. and saying he was “tough on him” is a SEVERE understatement, that little boy was thoroughly abused.

and then the aftermath of the whole thing with rei. he traumatized her so bad it led her to BURN HER OWN SON’S FACE. and what did he do instead of reevaluate his behavior? LOCK HER UP IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION. and not because he cared for her health, but because he didn’t want her to hurt shoto again. messed. the fuck. up.

and if yall gonna come in here and say “oh but other characters have been forgiven after their redemption arcs like zuko and regina mills” DONT YOU EVER COME IN HERE WITH THAT SHIT. their entire redemption arc revolved around them making a wrong choice that further proved to them that being good was the right way. they felt severe unease, and like it wasn’t “them”, so to speak, at being inherently “evil” so they CHOSE to convert because being “evil” was not their true selves. they made MISTAKES but learned from those mistakes BY THEMSELVES without anyone else influencing their thoughts or telling them anything. they CHOSE good because the people they cared about were good, and they wanted to be with them. they made a bad choice, yes, but the whole point of the redemption arc was that they learned from it and improved their characters. endeavor did not make a bad choice, he abused actual, living people for many, many, MANY years. it wasn’t a “bad choice” it was a deliberate decision to fulfill his stupid fucking delusions of grandeur.

how are those antiheroes different from endeavor you ask? I WILL TELL YOU. sure, he got a redemption arc, and sure he got forgiven. but did yall notice he only did an effort to do better after he became the number 1 hero? after shoto was in UA and his children were grown? after rei was locked up so she couldn’t tell anyone about what happened? after all might was no longer the symbol of peace? he only made the effort to become a better person once his OWN PERSONAL GOALS were fulfilled. he always prioritized himself. he didn’t learn shit. he’s not sorry for shit. he regrets nothing. he just wants to be perceived as the perfect #1 hero like all might was.

be fucking for real, his redemption arc was NONEXISTENT, and his children should not forgive him no matter how hard he begs. he does not deserve forgiveness. he’s a fucking abuser, rapist, and all around ASSHOLE.

if he has no haters im dead. and if i see even one endeavor ass kisser in the comments, you’re getting blocked idgaf. the fact that you think he’s hot and just because of that he earned his forgiveness will not fly here hoes idc. that man deserves to rot in hell for all he’s done, if he wasn’t (and i cannot stress the “quote unquote” part enough) “attractive” yall would be on the other side. i can’t anymore, endeavor stans gtfo.