#fuck Kai Winn

[willowandthesagaofgayyearning]

Im so normal about star trek. If you told me literally 6 months ago i would be going insane over weird little aliens like this. I would not have believed you. And this is coming from someone who loves doctor who. Star Trek has gone so deep in my fucking brain in such little time and i need more immediately (i have not finished a single show yet) BUT GOD PLEASE KEEP IT COMING

[youngpettyqueen]

Julian would take a bullet for Garak because thats just a fundamental part of who he is as a person and I think you could count on one hand the amount of people he WOULDNT take a bullet for. Garak would take a bullet for Julian and it would be entirely because he's so hopelessly and desperately in love with him and he would be fucking MORTIFIED about it. Garak gets shot for Julian's sake and when he wakes up later he's genuinely mad that he survived because now he has to live with the mortification of having gotten shot for this goddamn doctor for the rest of his life

[captainjimothy]

feeling ill about kai winn again. Character of All Time. she's the planet-wide leader of a religion that has recently been scientifically confirmed to be true, as in, the gods are real and they live in a pocket of space just above the planet and they speak to people all the time. but they've never spoken to her. she clawed her way through the ranks to become pope because she wanted so badly to be close to her gods, and they still give her the cold shoulder. she was also elected president and has to juggle those positions during a turbulent post-war period where tensions are high and resources are low. she's politically and morally conservative, but she's willing to learn from her mistakes if you're nice to her about it. she is run so ragged by her responsibilities and the lack of connection from the gods she loves that it doesnt even take very long for dukat to convert her into his satanist death cult. she lets him, a stranger, sleep with her while he's doing this, because no matter how driven and ambitious she is, at the end of the day she's a lonely and isolated person who has never really been liked very much and she just wants connection. as soon as she discovers dukat's real identity she kicks him out of her bed, because he was the military leader who oversaw the occupation of her planet and oppression of her people--but she continues to keep him around as a cult partner because she refuses to stop working on the plans to blow up the world. she's like 65 and she's crawling down into the fire caves to summon demons like it's no big whoop. who is doing it like her

[yeah-thats-probably-it]

I’m only just on season four but I am very confident about these placements

Who’s Weyoun

[red-garden]

ONLY valid response

I’m sorry, but if you think any of the characters on ds9 are cis, you’re wrong. Yes even Sisko. Yes even Dukat. Yes, Worf too. This is the transgender gay sex station. All cis people on the station are instantly vaporized

[fvckingcrazybutfree]

GUL DUKAT FUCKED KAI WINN???????????????????

[kaiwinnishereforyou]

Fuck them Prophets.

[cannibalspicnic]

God, I wish they'd both been around together. The absolutely unhinged sapphic Odd Couple energy they'd have through some kind of a forced team-up....

[ikilledamanforthisurl]

i know hating on Kai Winn is like lame and uncool and nobody supports women's wrongs of me but she's like if they put my mother in my television

[werewolfmack]

"You just don't get it we want to fuck problematic characters, stop virtue signaling" I'd fuck Damar and Garak so don't you start with me, I have a grey space alien lizard war criminal dtf list, don't try to pretend.

[kuwdora]

vid rec: "I Can't Hear the Music" by @settiai

You're in a rush, they don't care enough 'cause their lives are very slow Time is ticking on You don't get a second shot And when you sell your soul for a leading role, will the lost souls be forgot?

kai winn adami is like the kind of crazy that makes me crazy. and puts in mind a female mystic from the mid-to-late middle ages. where the very person needs god bc the person is barren of something, food or purpose or existential strength, only winn takes this sideways-sanity into the the arena of political authority and at no point are you ever able to doubt her sincerity and at no point are you ever able to trust her anyway bc she's crazy (but fully in control). she would starve herself to feel the touch of the divine yet claim the touch of the divine without starvation and you would believe her bc you know she would starve herself for the touch of the divine. and to make it all just that bit More--to add to her bigness--her gods are real and the power she yearns to touch is real which makes the power she does wield precarious, bc her attention is split. she is the poster-child of the way a slowly-tortured and fundamentally-denied people can slip into the the "we're-all-mad-here" feeling, even after the denial stops--does it ever stop? is she not still starved for god? is she not still tortured and denied and rebuffed? must she starve everyone else so they can also see it, the way hope can never be anything but immaterial? and you want to say: god is not real. but in this story that's not true. the gods just aren't talking to her. so maybe she's not crazy.

[quinn-fucks-shit-up]

every time I rewatch ds9, I am violently reminded of why I hate Kai Winn more than any other character ever

[iftadwascool]

you ever think its funny how DS9 made you feel more sympathy for a greedy Ferengi and a Cardassian spy than it did the entirety of the Bajoran people?

[kaiwinnishereforyou]

Y’all I’ve been doing this dog and pony show for a full on DECADE and it’s like, where are my flowers? Where’s my parade?

[that1overthere]

(She lives in my brain....)

In S6 E6, "Sacrifice of Angels", Ziyal found Dukat fleeing from the impending federation takeover, and at this moment she at two choices.

(A) Leave with Dukat

(B) Stay with Kira (which was her canon answer but shhh)

But she was fucking killed, and now she won't leave my brain...

So i'm gonna projectile vomit some headcanons at you.

If she stayed with Kira

- Ziyal would cut her hair like Kira's (or just short) to look less cardassian-like

- Wore a lot more bajoran clothes (gotten from local shops or Garak)

- She'd start going to the Prophet temple with Kira, even getting an earing as she starts to believe in the Prophets

- I think she would try working different jobs around the station (Waitress (for Quark), seamstress (with Garak), nurse (with Julian), etc)

- But she'd probably just end up a civilian artist, maybe doing some commissions around the station

- Don't care, Ziyal/Nog supremacy 4 eva

- Kira wouldn't be her mother figure, but more of a big sister, helping her out in finding her place in DS9

If she went with Dukat

- Dukat would have her change her name, discarding her mother's last name

- Ziyal earlier showed an eagerness to learn how to fight, so to keep herself useful to Dukat she'd train to become a soldier (or at least learn to fight)

- Ziyal wouldn't draw as much

- Pseudo-military uniform as her normal everyday clothes

- I feel like she'd just follow Dukat around. When he was in Empok Nor, to Bajor to meet up with Kai Winn, to Cardassia whenever Dukat wanted, wherever

- At the end, Dukat would just manipulate her into sticking with him (and she falls for it)

- And after Dukat's death in the fire caves, I think she'd have a existential crisis and wonder back to Cardassia after the Dominion leaves

[unoriginallyned]

thoughts on DS9 season two

-that last episode was a massive lore drop oh my god. so here for the overarching plot.

-also Vedek Winn becoming Kai…

-I love Julian Bashir. My fav awkward guy

-the Julian and Miles O’Brien dynamic is my fav. And actually just Miles O’Brien as a character. Just suffering <3

-Keiko is also great I love her

-they should have more episodes with Garak. He may be morally questionable but he’s an epic character 

-WHAT was that mirror universe episode

-keep waiting for them to have a quark self reflection arc. Like why does he never face consequences for fucking things up??? 

-Odo is an interesting character and I’m super interested as to what they do with his backstory. He would also love Batman.

-Also kira and Odo???????

-they should let Jadzia Dax kiss women