#for being morally suspect.

[unopenablebox]

people around me online are always disclosing their kinks, like by writing fic about them or writing posts about them or reblogging the same photo of lee pace thirty times. but i can't do that. because my kink is embarrassing

[frodo-a-gogo]

Let us be brutally honest with ourselves and with eachother for a moment. If he weren't obese you motherfuckers would be capable of percieving evrart claires sexy sexy moral ambiguity and complex charms

[mortalscience]

ten caps per episode - Law and Order Criminal Intent - s01e11 - The Third Horseman

Eames: "From locks to lock n load." Deakins: "Next step for Mr. Griscom is lockup."

[shinraelectricpowercom]

Current Events in Silm fandom rlly reinforce my feeling that, despite claiming an ethos of acceptance/tolerance of anything that doesn't hurt ppl, a lot of ppl in the section of Silm fandom I frequent do follow a set of socially-agreed-upon mores about what concepts are "not acceptable" to discuss or propose (or the ways in which certain topics must be discussed to be acceptable), that you all seem to have agreed on despite the things those mores restrict not being harmful to anyone.

And when someone does say smth that violates those mores, the response is disproportionate to the amount of harm done (which is typically none, imo). I know it's tempting to say "but we just want people to be comfortable and safe", but treating ppl badly for the sin of sharing thoughts you dislike is NOT the same as preventing people from doing things that are harmful. The former is much more of a harmful behavior than the sharing of the thoughts that sets it off. Fannish etiquette, people: you shouldn’t act like someone’s meta makes them morally suspect just because you disagree with it; save the “this is morally bad” for things that are ACTUALLY harmful. We're all stuck on this website together & if you want to have any sort of community, you need to ACT like you're in a community, and that means letting other people say things you dislike. Block them if you need to! I block people all the time because i know it's better for me AND for them if we can both blog in peace.

I am not particularly comfortable with the young-queer-on-tumblr silm fandom rn due to this tendency to rebuke things that are uncomfortable rather than harmful. Maybe that's fine with you. But if your goal is to make all fans feel comfortable and accepted, you need to actually do that. If your goal is to make people who share your unwritten rules comfortable in your space, you need to admit that, and write those rules down, and curate your space so it follows them.

Edited 8:10am PST to clarify the specifics of the behavior I find concerning.

[abri-chan]

Okay I'm going to say something and not tie to what I saw on Twitter. It is about certain ships. I've seen hate on bleach ships in general, particularly shunnao recently. And people went and dug up old Tumblr posts from when the manga was still ongoing to call these fans delulu.

Here's my two cents:

(1) if shunnao fans are delulu, so are juushun fans, or sword x Shunsui fans, or whatever. In that, in canon, he's one-sided in love with his sister in law. Now does this matter? Not at all, because shippers will ship based on chemistry and what characters they like. I find it unfair that juushun fans who were hated on from men a few weeks back on Twitter not jump on the bandwagon to hate other bleach ships, as though they're not the same fanon boat.

(2) Why are you calling out old Tumblr posts? These posts were made as the manga was ongoing. These shunnao fans didn't know the two were related. Kubo has written omake where Nanao has a love confession for him. He has had Shunsui flirt with her in the past. It's unfair to call these fans out for something they didn't know as Kubo dropped the bomb at the end, and call them all sorts of things like incest supporters. When many of these fans deactivated as a result. Or deleted their works. (With regards to work deletion, I don't think it is fair we demand someone takes down all their works because their ship turned out incest; I think it is their right to maintain that they did that work under a different set of knowledge and they have the right to intellectual creativity as any of us. I think that is why many of shunnao fans say "if they weren't related". Because they don't find it fair they must delete everything now or the contribution they made to the fandom.)

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No OP does not condone incest. Does it mean fiction doesn't have a place for incest? It does, but I don't trust men to write it; but I trust women. It doesn't matter as most of these fans didn't know it was incest and stopped writing after it became incest.

No OP also did not read the story as a shunnao ship. I read bleach backwards as the suicide theater part and Shunsui's unrequited love made me want to read the whole manga. So I read it when I had all the facts, and could clearly see the whole story. Shunnao fans didn't, they read it chapter by chapter as the story was ongoing. They formed the ships early on, perhaps even early on in age (shunnao is a very age 12 kind of ship in regards to attraction to older experienced men imo), and it's hard to swerve once you're committed to a ship, even if now you are older. I always saw them as family because of how Shunsui patronizes Nanao. But that doesn't mean people cannot read the same story differently.

And it doesn't matter what "morality" credentials OP has to make this point, because I don't have the right to impose on anyone of what to ship, and most people have coherent reasons as to why they ship and they can find evidence in the canon for that. Unfortunately shunnao was also one of the few f/m ships that had weight in the fandom, which is inundated by m/m ships mostly. (I pray for f/f ships but alas we know how that statistics goes.) The point is, you cannot hide behind morality in pushing your fanon ship over another, just when you were attacked for said ship by "canon" people. And even then, the point of fandom is to give something new, a different spin, hence why canon is also not as important: it's a starting point and people go and experiment from there. And yes, I would condone shunnao art or fics even if it were incest, in the sense that, I would not know how the story treats the topic without reading it. Is it fetishizing it? Fiction is always a space to deal with uncomfortable truths, so hiding behind morality is the same as antis. (What I mean is, I defend their right to ship it.)

[cruelsister-moved2]

sorry but with every day that passes weird meat industry fans turn me into the sanctimonious vegetarian strawman theyre always posting about ehdhfghdfgdkfjgn like im starting to see why people get angry when ur actively cheering on the destruction of our planet

[mariocki]

New Scotland Yard: Fire in a Honey Pot (1.8, LWT, 1972)

"You make it sound very convincing."

"I beg your pardon?"

"Your Mr. Logan was seen at the club on the afternoon before it burnt."

"Oh, now, don't ask me what could have taken him there, to a place like that."

"You mean you've never heard of the protection business?"

"Isn't that what you're in?"

[cicadaknight]

that movie where alan rickman concocts a plan to prove his devotion to a greasy twink, norman reedus, by having the twink seduce his hot wife and murder her with a magic trick so they can live together forever in her grandfather's island cabin as gay lovers.

[llycaons]

im finally feeling awake now so @pharahsgf this is the post I was talking about

foolish. reductive. immature. disrespectful. willfully ignorant. WRONG

[livingdeaddoctor]

well boys i think we gotta pack it up for the night

[istherewifiinhell]

did i ever get around to mentioning that my least favourite era of tf cartoons (2010-2017, all technically in the same 'continuity' even though. their obviously not actually. and also. that real bad comics lore) there is so much messaging around the idea that like "you need to stick up for yourself" but it will always be completely encounter to the way everyone acts, the meanness of the humour used, and that like... you have to stick up for yourself! against your direct superiors! no they are NOT beholden to you 'sticking up for yourself' and have no particular method of account. You just! Have to! and once you do! they will, ofc, due to their good nature, realise the error of their ways and redress.... i mean. maybe. at least until next episode?

do i think this has ANYTHING to do with how propagandist each show is regards to... the government, the military, police or even yeah religion, and or how they characterize their settings with having NO tf civilians/non combatants.... WELL.

[sysig]

What I want from you is / It was

Your voice

[eleccy]

i just love klavier because no other character allows me to relate to such a pure feeling of being unapologetically lovesick

[hopeless-eccentric]

i dont choose favorite characters, my heart just guides me to the ones who would main paladins in dnd

[shokuto]

THIS bitch 😭

[misterradio]

looking at my fer.al screenshots i miss you luka i miss you weird nonbinary beasties with dubious morals. also the writing in that game was so bad sometimes

edit i keep forgetting there is a working emulation of this game i just dont know how to play it without getting a discord. please tell me how to play it without a discord.