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[doks-aux]

The idea of William Afton genuinely loving his children is so much more interesting to me than the alternative, not just because it's more tragic and makes his motivations make more sense, but also because it's fucking hilarious.

You are about to be obliterated from this Earth by a six-foot-something zombie rabbit, and your last moments are spent terrified and deeply confused as he shows you pictures of his kids in a blood-stained wallet: a clearly haunted bear costume, a limitlessly unnerving chrome clown doll, and what looks like Grimace's corpse left to shrivel in the sun.

[mychapel-004]

something about vanessa afton

do you think she joined the police force as an act of defiance? to protect people, save children, one day maybe even take down her father? or was it an act of loyalty? did her father make her join? did he raise her to forever be his human shield?

the way he talks to her makes it seem as if she has been under his thumb the whole time, completely loyal until the last minute (“you had one job, keep him in the dark and kill him if he gets too close”). is she an officer so she can cover for him? how long has he been hiding behind his own daughter to protect the place he’s so “sentimental” over?

is she the one that hides the bodies? when did it start? how much of a role did she play in the killings? how long has she been cleaning up the blood that should be on his hands? when did it start to stain hers?

something about a little girl watching as her toy closet, her favourite restaurant, her life becomes a graveyard of kids her age. did he kill them so he didn’t have to kill her? in the end, did it even matter when he tried to kill her the moment she fought back?

does she visit the restaurant every night to cover up any mistakes bodies, or to pay her respects? she got so angry at mike when he left the door open, even when he didn’t know the truth of the restaurant. he just thinks she’s overly sentimental, like william, but she didn’t see it as a break-in. she saw it as a desecration.

how long has she stared into the eyes of the animatronics her younger self used to stare at in amazement, knowing what they are and what they’re capable of? has she ever felt a stab of irrational jealousy, knowing even after what her father did to these children they still see him as a friend, their hands don’t shake when he comes near, he calls them children when vanessa hasn’t been allowed to be a child since she found out what he had done? they get to stay young and naive forever, while she grows older and is never able to forget.

because even though she joined the police force to protect her father, she’s a trained emt. she knows where the first aid kit is. she knows where the nearest outpost with the right medical equipment to survive an animatronic attack is. some part of her hopes that just once, she’ll get there before it’s too late.

i really hope we get more lore about her in the next movie. i want to know more about her childhood, when she learned the truth and how it changed her. i know a lot of people aren’t fans of the change with william’s kids, but i think its a really interesting re contextualisation of the dynamics we were already familiar with!

[cocogum]

William and the color purple.

Love the fact that William being associated with the color purple actually has meaning to it.

Like yeah purple has also something to do with shadows in 8-bit games but when it comes to William wearing purple, there’s a reason why he’s only being represented in that one color (besides the fact that he’s supposed to represent a shadowy figure which would explain why he physically looks purple in the games).

Like any color, purple can represent many themes and topics. For its positive, it represents royalty, luxury, the encouragement of self-knowledge and an air of mystery and the supernatural.

It’s all fine and dandy until we get to see what its negative represents.

When we think about the color purple’s negative meanings, we have conceit, pomposity and mourning which that last one would only be caused by death.

Now we are completely aware of what mourning and death mean and could all agree on attributing these two to William given the fact that he has a habit of spreading these two like a wildfire on a constant basis.

But what about conceit and pomposity? What do those two mean?

Conceit and Pomposity are synonyms to each other and both mean believing you are better than everyone else, having a super-sized self-confidence.

If we take off any kind of positive meanings of the color and only take the negative points, then we pretty much get William in a nutshell or rather his book counterpart (his game counterpart is also perfectly being described by the color but the books have been able to show more of his personality).

Book William Afton considers himself to be a genius, a scientist who found the answer for immortality. He shows to have a high opinion of himself and sees everyone else as a liability, a nuisance or simply doesn’t think they’re capable of understanding what he seeks (ex: Elizabeth, robot Charlie’s friends, etc.). The man has barely any sympathy or compassion for anyone who dies by his hands or by the animatronics and believes he alone is the only one who will not get wiped out by them because he believes he’s above anyone else. He also spreads around death and mourning due to his egotistical views and only cares about getting what he wants from the deaths (which are the remnants he collects from the kids) he committed.

So purple is legitimately William’s color due to the way that he thinks, behaves and, least we do not forget, his looks due to the fact that he mostly stays in the shadows.

What is very ironic however, is that his creations are part of the positive purple group since one of them talks about creativity which in William’s case would lead to the supernatural and is also a part of purple’s positive meanings. His actions (molding the animatronics) represented a positive aspect of purple but then lead to become a negative one after what he had done to the five missing children.

[breakerinthebackroom]

Okay, so now I've JUST NOTICED the weight set in Mike's room, from that gifset. That clearly he wasn't prepared to sell to pay bills or anything. Coupled with the push-ups he apparently does after he wakes up...boy was concerned with being Strong.

:(

Or maybe just doing a lot of cardio - so he could run faster :(:(:(

But then I noticed in a recent moodboard for Mike that in that picture from his childhood, with Garret and his parents, he's doing a 'strongman'/flexing pose...so was that always him? And feeling like he didn't protect Garrett just turned it up to eleven?

[pheonixrainbow15]

and if I said that Gregory parallels Michael more than CC.

[infestedguest]

You know if you really think about it, gen z preteens latching onto a series about corporate apathy and greed enabling the ongoing slaughter of children actually makes a weird kind of sense.

[albaqae]

It is 12:30 in October 28th, and I just finished watching the fnaf movie and, as routine, I feel an urge to infodump :)

SPOILERS FOR FNAF MOVIE UNDER CUT!!!! Everyone who also watched it remember to correctly tag so that ppl can block it!!!

Really recommend to watch first cause it was nice to watch :) even if not PEAK storytelling IMO IMO IN MY FIRST IMPRESSION OPINION DONT JUMP ME

Ok so it was odd??? A lot of the lore kinda got messed up in translation, but I can’t help but feel so grateful anyways???

Ngl I would’ve probs shit on the movie if it wasn’t for my friend who, in a convo, mentioned how sad he was that everyone hated the red eyes cause “we’ve been waiting so long, why does it matter they got red eyes?”

Bc of this I gave it a shot, and it was not bad.

I was scared of how it’d turn out just bc the fnaf lore is SO much that even SCOTT HIMSELF doesn’t know where we at, but for the amount of info they were dealing with, they decided to kinda maneuver in their own iteration of it (imo) which wasn’t completely hate-able and I think it was a pretty good course of action

I liked references to the og lore (

-Vanessa’s coma at the end

- how foxy is the most OUT TO GETCHA

- the afton death scene was PEAK IMOOO “I always come back” like mk girll 💅

- also the whole set was actually fire

- telephone guy even if he wasn’t red ;(

- constant mention of exoskeletons and spring trap mechanisms

- BALLOON BOY THE ONLY THING THAT ACTUALLY MADE ME JUMP

- ITS ME WRITTEN IN THE WINDOW YESSSSSSSAAAAA

- the children inside the suits detail had me like YESSS

- funky electricity

- BALLPIT SCENEEE

- the bite even if it was her whole ass fucking torso

- the cupcake cool

- Vanessa inclusion and her relation to afton

- etc other things I can’t remember)

ALSO MATPAT CAMEO????? HELLO???????? ITS JUST A THEORY???? I also found out my brother does not know who he is and that was SAD. It’s ok ima show him tmrrow :D

Also also the effort put into the ACTUAL ANIMATRONICS, I was actually so shocked I was so ready to just accept it was all gonna be sfx and green ppl but they actually BUILT it, and that materialization just made it that much better for me like watching it and realizing wo man this is insanee

Just thinking how it was such a tiny project and then it just BOOM and here we are???? Omaiga. It rlly motivates u to get out there, no?

I loved them pushing the boundaries of where the animatronics could go w golden Freddy, even if he got me SO confused lore wise like wait y r u here? same for the weird kill freddy mask like hello???

IT MADE ME SO HAPPY HAVING THE TOMBSTONE SONG THEREEEEE YIPEEEEE

Music wise it was so cool too like it was pretty preppy and happy like kids parties and even in normal scenes (e.g. him picking up sleeping pills) it kept the mood up

I didn’t like the career dude being afton, but he was suspicious and i knew smth was gonna happen so ig not out of the blue, but I do like how it kinda went full circle

I am still confused abt Vanessa, but not overly so it’s ok

I actually cried when Abby and the animatronics became friends I was so happy, it got taken away but alas it is fnaf :)

We love the undiagnosed PTSD of the characters

I was bummed when it didn’t close out w the scene where the animatronic heads where no longer have a light behind them (meaning they’ve moved on) I honestly think it would’ve been such a COOL way to close it out but I was not the producer and maybe they plan to continue it??? Continue the curse of too much lore??? That’d be hilarious actually

I’m sad abt how dirty michael gets done through most of the movie like hes just doing his best stopppp

It’s just first impressions, and I’m VERY outdated w the lore, but I like ranting and tumble lets me so I do it :) lmk ur thoughts too!!!!

[metalichotchoco]

I wonder if robots do dream of electric sheep

[black--blizzard]

I find it curious how live-action suddenly made me realize the brutality behind William's actions, maybe it did had something to do with the animatronics having more personality than in the games and so, as expected, them behaving like actual children.

Did Springtrap stopped being one of my favorite characters? No, however this movie did achieved to make me grasp how fucked up William Afton actually is.

when vanessa explained that the kids’ bodies were inside the animatronics too and that’s how afton got away with it, even though I knew this because of the lore, I still teared up and felt sick tbh.

[metamatronic]

some of the old cast! it’s kinda crazy looking back at my old BATIM art, ngl. but it’s nice to see that i’ve improved!

[doks-aux]

The Fredbear animatronic was going through its programmed routine when it bit down on Crying Child's head. Who's to say it stopped there? Did it keep moving? Did it turn its head side-to-side, shaking CC's limp body like a rabbit in a hound's jaws? Did it finally open its mouth again and drop his body at his brother's feet? Did William see all of this while shoving his way in slow motion through a panicking crowd?

[thedemonscrawler]

My contribution to the Weekly DCA Magma!

Went from 'what if I drew Eclipse" to "what if I worked on my Lord Elipse!AU design" to "you have been in the magma for 10 hours go to bed". There's things I'd like to change, I want something a bit different for his design than my 'default' DCA, and I'm still not certain about the drips from his crown. But it was a lot of fun!

(If you're wondering 'shit how did you do that in _Magma_: soft eraser at about half opacity and density, soft pen also at half opacity and density, hard pen at full opacity and density. go back and forth between them to get smoother edges. use the lineart as part of the highlights. for the metal i looked up a tutorial)

[cinnamonrollorder]

BIG AGREE. And tbh you gave me a fanfic idea sooooo~ A lot of this is gonna be a bit of analysis sprinkled with theory, and it’s just gonna be a ramble about how their dynamic could work and what might’ve happened with them. SO. I think their first meeting was definitely the party. Gregory, homeless, prickly little Gregory, is just doing his usual stint of spending the day at the Pizzaplex because it’s got AC, drinks, food, and enough kids running around and screaming that no one sees him as anything other than just another kid spending a day there. Cassie, meanwhile, is having the worst birthday of her life. I’m not sure where her father wuld be, on this day. He probably was working, and trusted Cassie would be safe considering the Pizzaplex’s security, so he likely didn’t realize no one turned up to her party until the day was over. So Cassie’s... probably alone in the party room, crying. And Gregory passes by (potentially in the habit of checking party rooms to see if one’s clearly just emptied of people and they’ve left something useful to get), and sees her. He probably doesn’t like people, too much. From whatever caused him to be homeless to the general disdain people have for the homeless, it doesn’t seem like Gregory is all too buddy-buddy with people easily. But he’s not heartless. He’s entered the room, swiped one of the napkins on the table, and crouched beside this girl before he even gets to question if this is worth it. I think - surprisingly, they’re fast friends. Cassie’s lonely, that much is certain. And since she adores Roxy I think she probably takes a good bit after her, and we see some evidence of that! She’s not afraid to voice when she’s annoyed or upset, and I think she probably speaks her mind first and foremost. Gregory... doesn’t strike me as lonely, he seems to rather keep his cards to his chest and does what benefits him the most because he has to. I think they bond quickly because they both like the Pizzaplex, and probably enjoy talking about that first, and then at least can use that as a bridge to do fun things together. Cassie is vocal about her thoughts, Gregory probably likes having someone just be open, not having to worry about random social cues or things he doesn’t get. They’re similar, but have differences that click. Cassie wants a friend, and since her dad works at the Pizzaplex she’s probably there often. Gregory, if nothing else, would at least catch on that Cassie’s nice and genuine and he likes the sense of normalcy. And again, if nothing else, he has little reason to distrust her, because she has no-one else. He wouldn’t worry about a trick, he saw her break down because she didn’t have a friend. She wouldn’t do something to the onyl friend she had. Cassie recognizes Gregory’s drawings. Meaning they have genuinely hung out together, and she’s seen him draw. Now, I do think they’re “Pizzaplex friends”, meaning I don’t think Gregory’s gone to Cassie’s house. They meet at the Pizzaplex and only hang out there. Cassie... might know Gregory is alone. She doesn’t seem too shocked that he’s allegedly in a sinkhole in an abandoned Pizzaplex. Someone has to put up missing posters, and it was probably her, considering no one else would do that for Gregory. And Gregory probably told her not to tell her dad, so she didn’t.  I think for Gregory, Cassie was a sense of normalcy and a life he didn’t have. She was good, wholly good, kind and fun and he didn’t need to worry about much with her around. Her family had money, she had money; meeting Cassie in the Pizzaplex was just a guaruntee the day was going to be fun and he’d have food to eat and a friend to talk to for once. And the trade was equal - Cassie knows Gregory is a good friend, knows that he trusts her and just wants what she wants - a person to hang out and chat with and eat with and play with. Gregory is someone she can count on not getting tired of her or bored of her or getting annoyed of her, because they’re both snarky and love the Pizzaplex and enjoy doing small things together simply because it’s together. And to be clear - Gregory, I don’t think, ever used Cassie. Do I think Gregory proably feels more security in the bond because Cassie’s generally lonely? Yes. I don’t think he takes advantage of it. I think Cassie is happy to help a friend. I think she doesn’t care about potentially buying Gregory food or clothes or something because she’s just happy he genuinely likes her. They probably did have a talk, where Cassie (who’s definitely got some sort of insecurity from the trauma of no one coming to her birthday) questions if Gregory is just using her for some stability. Gregory, I think, honestly answers no. Because, on the one hand, he doesn’t need Cassie for that. He can clearly get food on his own without help. It’s jsut if Cassie offers and he can’t pay, she can usually chip in without it hurting her. He’s grateful for the help, and can’t deny that he does like her a bit more because she’s helpful, but that isn’t bad (if you asked two friends for help, one says yes and one says no, you’re going to feel more kinship witht he one who helped you). He can state he likes hanging out with Cassie for Cassie, and if she stopped providing those small things he wouldn’t stop hanging out with her. Cassie, I think, really appreciates Gregory. And she can trust him a lot because Gregory is very pragmatic. If he hates a thing he’ll say so. If he likes it he says so. She doesn’t have to worry so much over “am i doing this wrong will he leave will I be alone again” because Gregory would say so. He’s clear. And Gregory at least, is probably proof to Cassie that she can make friends. She might have made more friends after she met him, probably! And if she goes to the Pizzaplex a lot, Gregory is a reliable friend. Someone she can count on to hang out and play and not feel bad about going “hey im here! lets do stuff!”. She can talk about what she likes and show off thigns and be herself.  I think they work well together. I think they mean a lot to each other.

mimic aside, wouldn't it make sense that cassie and gregory are pretty close?? maybe i'm wrong/overthinking it, but cassie was willing to go through ALL of that just for "gregory." she even shut down her favorite animatronic because he was begging her to save him. idk about yall, but personally i don't think two random kids would do that for each other. this being said please explore the cassie and gregory dynamic more because theyre my pooklet oinkly sprinkles

[cocogum]

The Afton kids adoption theory is very dumb. Here’s why.

I never understood the logic behind thinking that William adopted Michael, Elizabeth and the Crying Child for experimenting on them.

Like what makes people think that he took the time of his day to file adoption papers, buy scholarly books, toys, essentials like toothbrushes and clothes and extra food to feed them if the man absolutely despises kids????

People are trying to justify him having kids without putting Mrs. Afton in the picture and that is a load of crap. Just because that woman isn’t around and her name hasn’t been revealed to us, doesn’t mean William adopted three random kids to experiment on them. If he really wanted to experiment on kids without having to go through all the paperwork and human growth process, he would have simply kidnapped three children and kept them in his office. That’s it.

Like, think about it for a second.

The idea of William adopting kids is such a far-fetched theory that it makes William look completely out of character. If he adopted Michael to experiment on him, why would he willingly let him have friends (aka C.C’s bullies) and go outside?

If he adopted Elizabeth to experiment on her, why would he not let her get close to Baby but let other kids get closer?

If he adopted C.C to experiment on him, why would he warn him through the golden Freddy plushie to be wary of his surroundings and promise him that he’ll put him back together?

Also, the idea of the Afton children being humanoid robots (like the Charlie from the Silver Eyes book trilogy) doesn’t make any sense either since we see C.C’s head almost getting crushed to death by Fredbear (before he eventually dies from it), Elizabeth’s whole body getting squashed inside of Baby’s and Michael’s organs and insides getting scooped by Ennard.

But let’s say the Afton children weren’t robots or weren’t being adopted by William to get tested on and used. Let’s say, that William genuinely wanted kids but wasn’t able to get into a relationship with anyone due to him being off-putting (no joke he was described as being a very odd man in the books). If that was true, then how could it have been possible for Michael to have said that the Funtimes mistook him for William if he was only his adoptive son? The Funtimes didn’t know who Michael was at first but once they took a good look at him, they genuinely thought he was his father. If he got adopted by him, then that line of his would have never existed. Since Sister Location confirmed to us that Michael was biologically related to William, that detail also helps us to confirm that C.C is also related to William due to Micheal and C.C having some physical similarities like their iconic brown hair and their skin colour (grown-up Michael’s skin becomes more similar to C.C’s). As for Elizabeth, she has the same accent as her father and oldest brother which confirms that she got her looks from her mother (their accents are very important for this part since they all live in Hurricane Utah so the chances of finding other british accents in the 1980s in that area is very improbable).

The adoption theory is literally one of the worst fnaf theories I have ever heard in the entire community. And that is saying a lot if you’ve been a fan since 2014.

The man simply got married, divorced his wife after the bite of 83 and got to keep his remaining kids due to having won the lawsuit against his wife. (Proof of the lawsuit scene was in the Security Breach retro CDs if you don’t remember) .

It’s as easy as that. William never adopted for experimentations. If he did, his energy and time being wasted on three experiments wouldn’t have made sense if all he wanted from them was remnant. William also never adopted for the faint of heart since his children got his and his wife’s looks. And finally, William never built his children because their deaths proved they were actual humans.

There were no indications, proof or evidence in the games and books that suggested the Afton children were adopted by William. If anything, there were much more to say about the children being biologically related to him rather than the opposite. This theory had way too many plot holes and more questions than answers that it might as well just turn itself into a headcanon for the fans to enjoy.

[purble-gaymer]

i haven’t talked about their dynamic at all have i

[leonardalphachurch]

there are some parts of season 10 that imply that the meta was an intentional experiment by the director/counselor or that at the very least they knew what was going on/what was going to happen and didn’t do anything to stop it/wanted it to happen. but that always stood out to me because like. why? they actively want more ai. how does sigma reforming them help? why tear the alpha apart if you’re going to put him back together? but then i thought, well sigmas goal isn’t JUST to reform the alpha. it’s to achieve metastability. and if sigma had the idea that reuniting the fragments might achieve metastability, might the mind he was based on had the same thought?

tear the alpha into pieces. give those pieces life of their own. put them back together, after they’ve grown. create something greater than what you started with.

there’s the question of “why would the director want to achieve metastability”. him being an ai researcher is reason enough on its own, but it’s definitely a pretty extreme way to achieve this. it’s not like the scientific community would be thrilled with the idea of “yeah we can make sentient beings but we gotta torture them first.” and it’s definitely not for the sake of alpha.

but he does have someone else he wants to bring back to life.