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Ummmm.... soooo.... I kind of went crazy and made DnD characters for the Undertale gang... and I've started a campaign idea in my head... and I want to make this idea a reality.
I'm considering making a sideblog dedicated to Undertale playing DnD where people can ask Dungeon Master Flowey questions, suggest NPC's or special items, and see a story influenced by the roll of the dice. (Like, literally. If someone gets a nat 1 and loses their soul or something, I will allow it to happen.) It would look something like this, but with more polished art.
Does that sound fun, or should I just post the character sheets here and leave it at that?
There will be DnD/Undertale shenanigans regardless, I just think if I did a sideblog I could make a longer story without feeling weird about it since this is my general blog.
#undertale#dungeons and dragons#poll#note to self: make a more fleshed out campaign idea before posting this#backstories and a world are not enough#this is my way of playing dnd because i'm too much of a coward to play with actual people#Alphys is a forever DM#But I like the idea of flowey being the god of a dnd world#so he's the dm for this campaign#and alphys finally gets the chance to play one of the hundreds of characters she's created#it took me a little while to come up with a way to have the table talk along with the actual story#because the jokes and the absolutely broken dice rolls are a big part of the fun of dnd#I like how I did the talk sprites#it weirds me out to draw only the head#flowey#undyne#is there such a thing as creative adhd?
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seem to be falling back into my UT/DR phase lately. Probably quite obvious, but I don't think Flowey's lack of compassion is exactly literal. He definitely thinks so himself,
but I think it's less a vanishing of compassion and more a byproduct of a complete switch of perspective that occured from the moment he first woke up in the garden. He doesn't quite "feel" anything for anyone anymore because he doesn't view this world from the perspective of an ingame character - as the one who held the power to Save at the time, I believe it came with the side effect of his perspective completely switching over to that of someone playing the game, even if he doesn't quite understand it. There's always an inherent disconnect between a Player and a Fictional Character. A game could tell you "This character is your mother", but you could never feel the same compassion towards that character as you do towards your real parents. I suppose this argument tackles it from the perspective of Flowey being a seperate entity from Asriel - and I do believe this to be the case to a certain extent. It's similar to when the Player takes control of a protagonist with a defined backstory that goes waaaaay back before you even took control. Flowey knows of Asriel, knows of Asriel's history, knows he was Asriel, but as much as he wants to or tries to he simply can't feel the same love Asriel would toward what should be his parents. He can't help but view them as what they really are, even subconsciously - characters in a story. A story where he, at least for now, assumes the lead role. That is of course until Frisk/The Player comes along. He can no longer Save, which means he's ultimately at their mercy now, and as soon as he meets them - what do you know - he feels something! Almost immediately he begins to antagonize Frisk relentlessly, starting with him outright trying to kill them, until instead he resorts to using them as a tool to gather as many souls as possible in one place. He needs his control over the game's Save File back, and for what? To wipe the slate, setting them back to the beginning so they can play together forever. There's a twisted sentimentality to it. A sentimentality he seemingly doesn't ever show towards anyone else except the one entity in the Underground that shares his perspective. Someone he is convinced is an old childhood friend. He knows he can torment them as much as he wants, kill them over and over, because he's been through it himself - therefore he knows they'll come right back. Either that, or they'll simply grow bored and leave him behind. He wants to prevent this in any way he can, and he knows that relentless adversity is the key to keep them from leaving. We usually don't stop playing the game until the main antagonising force is defeated. We don't stop until we reach a satisfying ending. Therefore the answer is simple - dangle that satisfaction in front of their face until repeatedly tearing it away. That way, finally, Flowey can forever play together with a true equal. In his eyes, he and "Chara" are the only two people that truly matter in this world.
#undertale#ut#utdr#ut/dr#flowey#flowey the flower#undertale flowey#rambling#still very funny to think that a flower named fuckin Flowey has the most in-depth backstory and writing in the game. it's great
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I think I just made Flowey worse.
#marbletale#mh au#I might a comic based off it#marble hornets#pepper rambles#undertale au#undertale#text#for context it’s related to tims backstory#I’m not going to spoil the comic much but I’ll just say flowey says some very awful shit to a younger tim#as a warning
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*He smiles brightly at Chara.* You. *Man, he didnt even have to think about it!* I wouldnt marry Dess. And Kara is awesome, but if there's anyone I’d want to be stuck with forever, it’s you, Chara. We’d marry platonically, and then you can still talk to Monster Kid or whatever you want!
If I had to really marry someone with kissing and all that yucky romantic stuff I guess I'd do the same thing, but… I’d rather choose someone who's not here. *He laughs and pretends not to care.* Not that I'd want to kiss anyone at all! Even with the other person! That's disgusting. Eww.
Next! Kara, what’s the longest you've gone without a shower?
(Kara) "What's a shower? Jokes aside, yeah I have a shower every other day. I've heard that having one every day is bad for you!"
(Noelle) "So that's why you always smell better than 95% of teens."
(Chara) "Dess I'm sure wants to do way more than just smell."
(Noelle) "If you don't stop talking about my crush with Kara I'll make fun of you for crushing on Monster Kid."
(Chara) "Okay."
(Noelle) "Fuck, I thought that would scare you away!"
(Chara) "I've been made fun of way too much for that to have any effect on me. Also Flowey I bet if you had a human soul it would be the kindness soul since you're so freaking sweet!"
(Kara) "Yes, that's why he's been my BFF!"
(Chara) "*Whispered* If you would like to tell me in private who that is later, please let me know. I don't have any reason to make fun of it."
(Kara) "Anyways I have a question for everyone as well! What's everyone's favorite book! For me, it's Animal Farm or 1984. I love dystopian books."
(Noelle) "Probably Harry Potter. Loved the magic system and the characters. Though if I could punch JK Rowling in the face I would. Fucking anti-trans girl."
(Chara) "Mine is The Color of Water. It's about a girl who leaves their abusive family to live their own life and ends up marrying a black person and being an outcast in a black society. Yeah, it felt so relatable it was unreal! What about you Flowey?"
#undertale#the white soul#kara#flowey#ask flowey#noelle holiday#dess holiday#chara dreemurr#Fun fact#Chara is based off the Mom in The Color of Water#She was also SAed by her father and went to a community different from her own#Only her backstory is similar though#It all came because one of her kids said “It was kill or be killed”#Not joking
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Who said CROSSOVER?!?! I am working on backstories for these villains in Wattpad.
Here's a link to my Wattpad account:
#fanfic#backstory#super paper mario#twilight sparkle#mlp#discord#origin#past#collector#undertale#deltarune#flowey#chara#lancer#ralsei#owl house#count bleck#tippi#powerpuff girls#him ppg#bill#gravity falls#snatcher#a hat in time#ahit#grogar#marx#gaster#king dedede#dimentio
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i love containing multitudes because somehow both papyrus (a loud egotistical skeleton with autism) and angus (a reserved gay bear with deadface) are characters that represent me very very well
#im not gonna go deeper into why theyre both me but if you know you know#stares at angus backstory. anyway#kostik speaks#theyre both so silly theyre my polarities#another funny polarity is papyrus vs flowey who are both me even though id argue theyre foils#me picking up id characters in pairs and theyre always characters totally at odds with each other#sigh. its how i am
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Flowey heist
#flowey#flowey the flower#undertale#undertale au#undertale fanart#a couple of these are from existing aus#undynetale flowey#horrortale flowey#helptale flowey#many of the others i just completely made up#ask me about some of the interesting ones and i can tell you their backstories#who would win? 50 floweys working together or several sanses and a gaster in a big important laboratory where souls are also stored?#i spent a pretty long time drawing all this
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“You’re actually afraid to be alone, aren’t you?”
"...That's-"
He wakes up in the middle of a garden. He could of sworn he was suppose to be dead(where are his limbs, WHERE ARE THEY). His father finds him. Tries to help. Tries to make him feel better. Nothing works, run away, run away to mother,nothing is still working, why can't he feel anything in his soul(?) what's the point if THEY are dead maybe he should just-
He wakes up in the middle of a garden. That's when it all starts going wrong. Figures out whats wrong with him. Refuses it for so long. There has to be something, anything that can make it go away.
Hundreds of resets. Starting out it was fine but after he started getting curious...
Sure. He can stop it at anytime. Try to make some connections. Like he has done many, many times in the past. Plenty of monsters waiting to help.
But what's the point if he can't really feel anymore. Without a soul, there was nothing but his own curiosity to get him through this existence.
"...Really silly of you to say!"
"Me? Afraid of that? What a dumb fear to have! Trust me! That is not something I never have to be worried of around here!"
"Maybe you are projecting a little bit here. You seem like the type of guy that DESPISES that."
#ic#tw: suicide mention#(sorta? its very implied but its still a part of floweys backstory so just in case#(b ut asfg go for the throat why don't you kris?)#(flowey would never admit but he hates being alone but he can't feel properly at all so it's like? Whats the point of hanging around people#(Better to do what he does because at least its something!)
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(And, now I looked at the rendering of the backstory so far. Maybe that'll be the answer for how the adapted scenes will work, and maybe even how things here will work. (And I imagine you might have a way of taking specific frames if that's something the news would do, editing tools exist after all. So if I start too early or end too late, or certain parts in the middle wouldn't make the cut, that can be simulated. If you think the news would show Flowey instead of being from his POV, then maybe we can swap between parts of my scene and what you had made with Flowey to simulate that, with the power of editing!
(With that being said, by convincing Monika to join the club (as the first scene), are you referring to what happened in the void where Sayori and Flowey are both trying to get her to stick around near the end of Monika's time at the main blog, or did you have something else in mind when you said that? (I'll probably be doing one of the other scenes in the list in the meantime while I'm waiting for the response here. And saving the file so if it turns out something needed changing, I can do that)
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(Yeah, I can edit in some Flowey parts! You can just make the news reels as normal (but with images) and then I can add in my Flowey sprite to your photo or just make a whole new image. You can always give advice in the post to [Add _____ scene with Flowey here] and then I’ll add replace the suggestion with the image during the editing process.
(My plan for the first bullet was indeed the branch between the main blog to this blog! I think having some visual recap of why Monika went back to her world in the first place would be useful, even if they only convinced her to go back for a short while so far.
#submission#mun#Nat#Monikanon#doki doki literature club#ask flowey#crossover#undertale#ask ddlc#backstory#recap
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*Chara smiles a warm smile*
"I'm glad I could help you, even In a small way. Too many of our kind are left alone and broken and that includes Flowey's and Asriel's. That sentiment is why we took in our children, Sol and Lunis, a Frisk and Chara from a collapsed universe."
*She chuckles*
"It still makes me laugh at times to think of a Frisk and Chara raising a younger version of themselves."
*She looks at Flowey again, this time a thought crosses her mind. She brings up her menu and goes to items, she scrolls through her list a selects one. A card appears in her hand and she hands it to Flowey. The card reads Dr. Chara Dreemur, Magical Sciences*
"Here, if you ever wanted to possibly return to your old form, contact her. She is a brilliant scientist and she specializes in anything involving souls, especially artificial ones."
*She leans in and whispers*
"She's a Chara who used to be just a spirit, if you catch my meaning."
*She returns to normal volume*
"Of course you don't have to use her services, I simply offer this as an option should you decide to travel that road."
*During this conversation, the ghostly version of her has started floating on her back, her hands cradling her head*
"I can understand that, there are not many living versions of us, let alone as adults. I was one of the lucky ones, my Asriel talked me out of that stupid plan."
*She looks at Chara with sadness in her eyes*
"I wish I could give some of that luck to those like you. You don't deserve to spend eternity as a spirit. But, as for me being a threat, I can understand why you would think that way. Too many of us are truly evil, but I'm not one of them. I may be a half-demon but I don't let that define me. Hell, if you guys ever run into trouble with anyone, my family would not hesitate to come to your aid. The multiverse can be a cruel place and we need some good to balance it."
*She goes silent again, it can be seen from her face that she is contemplating something*
Tears immediately come to Flowey's eyes and he stares at the card in amazement and Frisk seems just as amazed.
Flowey: "Holy... I think I will definitely travel that road, thank you so much,"
Frisk: "Azzie, this is a really big deal,"
Flowey: "It's more than that...it's so amazing that it's unbelievable,"
Chara: "You've literally just given us some of that luck, or at the very least a great deal of hope,"
"My brother has been struggling badly with his flower vessel the last few years, being his true self is what he's been dreaming about for a very long time,"
#undertale ask blog#flowey ask blog#teen!flowey#teen!frisk#ask blog#undertale au#ghost chara#chara#so a queen bursts into a room arc#the star family#Mun: I hate to be a downer#but this blog and its backstory is loosely based off my Flowey redemption fanfic series#it's called Growing Pains#and in it he struggles with being stuck in the body of a flower as he gets older#and spoilers... he sadly never gets his true form back#BUT!!! I will consider a temporary change on this blog
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A mother's grief
"Once an unstoppable fighter and blazing flame, Ceroba now spends most of her days wallowing in grief- most mistake her for a ghost, wandering the halls of an abandoned mansion, looking for the family she lost in a single night…
These days however she spends a lot of time in the wild east, perhaps looking a bit out of place in the lively and feisty town, but after a friend offered her a home away from all the painfull memories, she can't help but smile at his anticts…that is until a child much too similar to one she used to know shows up, and she is forced to contront her past and the burden legacy she carries"
Extras (please check this out!):
Heya folks!
oh boy- this post has been a long time coming! ceroba was probably one of the hardest characters to do, i mean there's just so much around her! i have a lot of concept art until i landed on something solid
However i couldn't stop there! i had to make a little sprite for her! and my dear friend @youtube-fucker was so kind to animate her too, i honestly can't thank him enough!
So, lets talk Ceroba!
Ceroba is a curious little case, perhaps the only monster (besides flowey) with a very calm attitude, even if its mostly brought on by a lack of energy, with a more genuienly motherly actions towards Clover, its quite a change of pace to the constant fighting the kid has grown acostumed to- perhaps because of that they're always more polite towards her, even actively searching for her aproval
Most of her backstory should become more clear when im done with Chujin and Kanako, however that shouldn't take too long! (i hope...), although im open to asks, you all should now by now i love an excuse to yap
For now though i'll be back on a small break as i allign the final pieces to this silly Au of mine...story wise at least, god knows i still have a lot of character designing ahead of me!
Thank you all for being here- Stay determined
#uty clover#yellowfell#art#undertale#undertale yellow#uty#uty au#uty ceroba#ceroba#uty starlo#starlo uty#undertale au#underfell#underfell yellow#undertale yellow au#clover undertale yellow#clover uty#uty fanart#digital art#pixel art#pixel sprite#aseprite
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i believe chara is not a demon (mythological) but a daemon (computing)
#tags peer reviewed#My personal theories on control is that well. Control Is Split. We know this from Flowey fight & Asriel Backstory Conversation Time#And something interesting is that LOVE resets when we reset. Which doesn't make sense since it's a representation emotional detachment#/numbness from killing. Getting used to it#My Big Personal Theory is as follows: Frisks control lessens as we LOVE up because they don't like killing monsters. That alongside#Imperfect memory of resets (You lose Siren's sing buff against KnightKnight on resets) I think it's Frisk that brings us back to LOVE 1#Therefore: At 102 kills. Frisk probably is so Not Into It they've effectively shut off entirely. No 'Holding Back' against NEO for example.#Our control is very neatly tied into distance from where we started. At the end of every run we lose control once we're past the big door.#We can also infer that being the 'Body' gives a bonus to the split control from the story of Asriel+Chara not hurting anyone above ground.#Since no one got hurt.#Therefore: By throne room: Our connection is about to break off entirely. Frisk is no longer trying to fight for control. And Chara has the#body buff. Using it + control of the timeline they do what they left the underground in the first place to do: Destroy Humanity.#I'm realizing this is really unrelated to the post but Autism activated so here it be.
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Why Papyrus is even in Undertale
And no, I'm not saying that he's not important. In fact, he's one of the most important plot devices. But why Papyrus ?
List of stuff Papyrus did for the plot :
Helped Frisk befriend Undyne
Gathered everyone in the Pacifist ending
Worldbuilding (phonecalls)
Characters' personalisation (phonecalls)
Told Frisk to go to the True Lab (phonecalls)
Basically the reason we were able to get the Pacifist ending
Quite a lot, but it all could be easily done by the others.
Befriending Undyne? Alphys. Being manipulated by Flowey? Monster kid. Info dumping on the phone? Sans.
Even among the main characters he seems a bit off.
Toriel is the caretaker of the ruins and former queen. Sans is the royal judge. Undyne is the capitan of the royal guard. Alphys is the royal scientist. Mettaton is the biggest star of the underground. Asgore is the king. Asriel (flowey) is the prince.
And Papyrus is… just some guy.
He could easily be a secondary character like Napstablook. Especially considering his lack of backstory, no character development and a skippable battle in which you can't even die.
But instead he has the biggest amount of words in the game, huge impact on the characters in all of the endings, very detaled hangout/date and a PERSONAL Q&A (also the entire Underale Q&A was centered around him).
What about Deltarune
Papyrus didn't show up in DR yet, but I can feel with my GUTS that he'll be important.
We all know that DR was in Toby's brain even before Undertale, and also we know that Bonetrousle was meant for DR.
Based on some theories about ch3, we can assume that the characters from UT actually might play some big roles in DR.
So… you can tell what I'm trying to say here, right? What if the reason why Papyrus is so important in the game AND in a lot of additional stuff is because he's going to play some role in DR and even have a character arc or be shown from unusual side.
And this “busy” is hunting me 24/7. Too suspicious.
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Transcript: more people should make asriel/flowey uncomfortably knowledgeable about everyone mainly because its funny but also because of course he would know a stupid amount of 'fun facts' about the cast. even sans. especially sans. he may not know everything about everyone but he definitely is going to be the one going "yeah i know" when another character is having a coming clean moment.
even better if he just spouts random facts about everyone since he has been everyone's 'friend' just as often as he killed them all. And he 100% would use the stuff he learned from them in past timelines in a post pacifist one if only to help frisk or alleviate boredom. basically post-pacifist flowey should get to be the informant archetype he knows every monsters (yes all of them) birthdays, favorite colours, tragic backstorys and goals and wishes and he only uses the information to help frisk pick out good christmas gifts that he would never admit to helping them with. frisk will be doodling and he'll start talking about how ice wolf wanted to be a musician or some bullshit.
Frisk only uses this information to make tailored pick up lines so flowey stopped telling them fun facts in protest.
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papyrus backstory rant repost from main
you know what isnt acknowledged enough?
we know more about sans and gaster's backstories than papyrus'.
what we know about gasters backstory:
he was the royal scientist, he likely had a lot of hubris, he built the core, he fell into the core, pieces of his existence were scattered across time and space, he had a following of people that were seemingly also caught in the blast and was/is somehow connected to papyrus, sans, the player, chara and deltarune. certainly not the most detailed but a damn good basic outline
what we know about sans' backstory:
he at some point was a scientist, there is a mysterious group of people he will supposedly never see again, he is likely the older of the 2 brothers, he might have seen a human before frisk, he at some point lost hope of ever returning to an unspecified location and at some point gained the title of judge. still relatively vague and some clues are fairly out of the way but still, a good idea of who he was before frisk fell and flowey fucked around
what we know about papyrus' backstory:
he came from somewhere unknown with green grass, he doesnt like hotland for unknown reasons, he made the battle body a few weeks before frisk fell, flowey took a liking to him for unknown reasons, undyne likely only recently started training him but when she did it was because he waited outside her house all night, he was apparently feeling down for a while before frisk fell and.. what else?
this vague ass tiny idea of what he maybe did like a month before we meet him hardly serves as a backstory. and funny enough this is all i can garner from oh idk THE CHARACTER WITH THE MOST LINES OF DIALOGUE IN THE WHOLE GAME SECOND ONLY TO THE NARRATOR! this is why i lovingly dub paps the king of deflection, as another example lets look at the time someone in the papyrus qna asked what he looked like when he was younger and in response he played dumb to be purposefully stingey about his past and try to show a picture of himself from the day before through a textbox. and its not like he doesnt know what hes doing, hes stubborn not stupid, thats why he vaguely hints at truelab during a phonecall despite moments before pretending he doesnt know what a lab IS, thats why he plays dumb around sans, thats why he seemingly lies to frisk about his knowledge of hotland, thats why he knows how to use reverse psychology well enough to manipulate UNDYNE of all people, and thats why he brushes off sans' time shenanigans as yet another prank across time and space, because he is the king of deflection and we dont know shit about his backstory and neither does anyone ingame, so if he does end up being the knight, he's hidden bigger bombshell secrets before, so why stop now?
#papyrus#papyrus undertale#papyrus is the knight#papyrus the skeleton#the great papyrus#undertale#undertale theory#deltarune theory#in this essay i will#essay
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in my rereading flowey is not a good lifecoach era and this shit kinda sucks flowey why are you telling him your life story??? why not go after your curiosity you literally brought up instead of this dumb plot you haven't even thought out like it'd be much more interesting for flowey to try to investigate papyrus's past (wink wink nudge nudge) and figure out why he's the way he is. like generally a more interesting plot. and if you're gonna go with this dumb idea at least manipulate even a LITTLE better flowey you do NOT need to pull out your backstory??? you also wouldn't do that so idk what the fuck you're on about like just go "oh gee ur so cool and strong and i feel so safe around you cause youre the toughest guy ikoww... but im worried bout you cause youre so nice too and you give too many chances 🥺🥺🥺🥺 also undyne's not letting you in the royal guard isn't she so mean for that." like flowey should be a manipulative mastermind why was the best thing he could come up with was just telling papyrus his backstory??? also why does papyrus just take that like bitch you should know that's literally asriel dreemurr?? that's literally his story?
#thank you papyru for heh... encouraging me to give it another look#idek why i thought this was so good i'm already getting annoyed#take it from me; the mascot of having bad takes#lock in... consume things with your brain on sometimes#maybe itll make you like it more and maybe itll make you realize “wait this kinda sucks.”#still mad they didn't go with the much more interesting plot in favor of torture#ooc torture but like torture nonetheless#flowey is not a good life coach#AND he's also fucking stupid apparently??? just go after why papyrus is (according to you) so desperate for affection#why waste your time on a plan you don't even know will work because you have no long game
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