#flowey's backstory

[acerikus]

guuuuuys im getting. so attatched to my funky lil space clover now

[beryllineart]

Ummmm.... soooo.... I kind of went crazy and made DnD characters for the Undertale gang... and I've started a campaign idea in my head... and I want to make this idea a reality.

I'm considering making a sideblog dedicated to Undertale playing DnD where people can ask Dungeon Master Flowey questions, suggest NPC's or special items, and see a story influenced by the roll of the dice. (Like, literally. If someone gets a nat 1 and loses their soul or something, I will allow it to happen.) It would look something like this, but with more polished art.

Does that sound fun, or should I just post the character sheets here and leave it at that?

There will be DnD/Undertale shenanigans regardless, I just think if I did a sideblog I could make a longer story without feeling weird about it since this is my general blog.

[internetskiff]

seem to be falling back into my UT/DR phase lately. Probably quite obvious, but I don't think Flowey's lack of compassion is exactly literal. He definitely thinks so himself,

but I think it's less a vanishing of compassion and more a byproduct of a complete switch of perspective that occured from the moment he first woke up in the garden. He doesn't quite "feel" anything for anyone anymore because he doesn't view this world from the perspective of an ingame character - as the one who held the power to Save at the time, I believe it came with the side effect of his perspective completely switching over to that of someone playing the game, even if he doesn't quite understand it. There's always an inherent disconnect between a Player and a Fictional Character. A game could tell you "This character is your mother", but you could never feel the same compassion towards that character as you do towards your real parents. I suppose this argument tackles it from the perspective of Flowey being a seperate entity from Asriel - and I do believe this to be the case to a certain extent. It's similar to when the Player takes control of a protagonist with a defined backstory that goes waaaaay back before you even took control. Flowey knows of Asriel, knows of Asriel's history, knows he was Asriel, but as much as he wants to or tries to he simply can't feel the same love Asriel would toward what should be his parents. He can't help but view them as what they really are, even subconsciously - characters in a story. A story where he, at least for now, assumes the lead role. That is of course until Frisk/The Player comes along. He can no longer Save, which means he's ultimately at their mercy now, and as soon as he meets them - what do you know - he feels something! Almost immediately he begins to antagonize Frisk relentlessly, starting with him outright trying to kill them, until instead he resorts to using them as a tool to gather as many souls as possible in one place. He needs his control over the game's Save File back, and for what? To wipe the slate, setting them back to the beginning so they can play together forever. There's a twisted sentimentality to it. A sentimentality he seemingly doesn't ever show towards anyone else except the one entity in the Underground that shares his perspective. Someone he is convinced is an old childhood friend. He knows he can torment them as much as he wants, kill them over and over, because he's been through it himself - therefore he knows they'll come right back. Either that, or they'll simply grow bored and leave him behind. He wants to prevent this in any way he can, and he knows that relentless adversity is the key to keep them from leaving. We usually don't stop playing the game until the main antagonising force is defeated. We don't stop until we reach a satisfying ending. Therefore the answer is simple - dangle that satisfaction in front of their face until repeatedly tearing it away. That way, finally, Flowey can forever play together with a true equal. In his eyes, he and "Chara" are the only two people that truly matter in this world.

[charafansmile]

i would LOVE to hear about more of your headcanons if youre willing to share….

I have so many and I love to share them :))) holiday flavored because that's what's on my mind

Chara is a big Christmas fan, not of the watches hallmark movies, and goes rabid over it, but they do really, really like it. It's their favorite holiday, and they dislike the whole capitalism angle, but they really like the other parts of the holiday. It probably goes against canon with gyftmas and all but I like the idea that their presence in the underground popularized it. Monsters were aware of Christmas through newspapers and the influx of decorations that would show up in the dump after said holiday but chara being so wistful about missing it is what inspired asgore to do the whole Santa thing. Mainly I just think the idea of naughty or nice vibes well with charas whole consequences thing and I want more noelle parallels with them <- that one comic hellspawnmotel did with them and noelle is another reason... it vibes so well with how I think chara behaves. Chara trying desperately to convince asriel Santa is real..(he has no idea who that is but is nodding along to the ridiculous things chara is trying to convince him of. )

Kris on the other hand is a total Halloween nerd. Being someone else? Being a MONSTER? yeah that's them. If kris and chara ever were to interact I think the only movie the two would agree on is Nightmare before Christmas before they immediately return to trying to kill each other. I think kris would lean more towards actual dislike of Christmas compared to chara. I also don't think either had good experiences with the holidays prior to being adopted by the dreemurrs, so for chara living with the dreemurrs is like a do-over where they get to experience it how they wanted to. But for kris it's just reliving uncomfortable memories- after the divorce and asriel moving away and dess dissapering- there's just too many things tied up in the holiday that upsets them. They might have started to like it after being adopted but it evolved into an actual distaste for it after everything else.

Flowey also likes Christmas he's really good at giving gifts (the save scummer probably went out of his way to memorize everyone's favorite things and while he claims to hate the holiday he gets secretly really proud when people like the gifts- but alas since he can't be seen being nice he didn't even include a 'from' sticker- except for the gifts he gave papyrus and frisk those ones Said "from: your best friend") issue is after the first two or three years post pacifist he starts running out of gift ideas since people regrettably change and most people don't like getting duplicates so he has to actually talk to the people he wants to give gifts too instead of just relying on his memories- good thing he can still just stalk them and eavesdrop!(the Ole reliable method) He's secretly and weirdly pleased nobody knows what to gift him in return- it makes him feel cool and mysterious. He does get annoyed after the third new pot and the second bag of fertilizer so he starts just heavily and blatantly hinting at what he wants- the second someone asks him directly though he acts like their stupid and will go on and on about how he doesn't need it or how impractical it would be. <- not a tsundere just stupid cringe kid who can't fathom the idea of people knowing he likes things, terrible!

Frisk approaches every holiday (including the small vague ones) with the exact same amount of energy- 100%. They are maximizing their holiday output- they want to celebrate everything! They do like some more than others mainly ones that deal with food like Thanksgiving or fun ones like April fools but they put alot of dedication into all of them. Valentines is their chance to practice terrible pick up lines and eat an unhealthy amount of candy (surprise surprise being the savior of monster kind gets a kid alot of Valentines gifts, and birthday gifts, and Christmas gifts, and new years gifts, and just because gifts- basically monsters love them and for the first couple years above ground monsters like just giving them things to show their appreciation- alphys has to keep updating their phone inventory) i like the idea undertale takes place during fall/ late winter and the phone calls take place almost a year after- so for frisk in any non pacifist timeline they are spending the holidays alone :( sad! Anyways- I also don't think frisk had a good time during the holidays either before falling underground so they like getting to experience them to the fullest and with as many people as possible...

[rattfreakk]

I think I just made Flowey worse.

[the-white-soul]

*He smiles brightly at Chara.* You. *Man, he didnt even have to think about it!* I wouldnt marry Dess. And Kara is awesome, but if there's anyone I’d want to be stuck with forever, it’s you, Chara. We’d marry platonically, and then you can still talk to Monster Kid or whatever you want!

If I had to really marry someone with kissing and all that yucky romantic stuff I guess I'd do the same thing, but… I’d rather choose someone who's not here. *He laughs and pretends not to care.* Not that I'd want to kiss anyone at all! Even with the other person! That's disgusting. Eww.

Next! Kara, what’s the longest you've gone without a shower?

(Kara) "What's a shower? Jokes aside, yeah I have a shower every other day. I've heard that having one every day is bad for you!"

(Noelle) "So that's why you always smell better than 95% of teens."

(Chara) "Dess I'm sure wants to do way more than just smell."

(Noelle) "If you don't stop talking about my crush with Kara I'll make fun of you for crushing on Monster Kid."

(Chara) "Okay."

(Noelle) "Fuck, I thought that would scare you away!"

(Chara) "I've been made fun of way too much for that to have any effect on me. Also Flowey I bet if you had a human soul it would be the kindness soul since you're so freaking sweet!"

(Kara) "Yes, that's why he's been my BFF!"

(Chara) "*Whispered* If you would like to tell me in private who that is later, please let me know. I don't have any reason to make fun of it."

(Kara) "Anyways I have a question for everyone as well! What's everyone's favorite book! For me, it's Animal Farm or 1984. I love dystopian books."

(Noelle) "Probably Harry Potter. Loved the magic system and the characters. Though if I could punch JK Rowling in the face I would. Fucking anti-trans girl."

(Chara) "Mine is The Color of Water. It's about a girl who leaves their abusive family to live their own life and ends up marrying a black person and being an outcast in a black society. Yeah, it felt so relatable it was unreal! What about you Flowey?"

[dragovid-davidas-thespmnerd]

Who said CROSSOVER?!?! I am working on backstories for these villains in Wattpad.

Here's a link to my Wattpad account:

[kkoct-ik]

i love containing multitudes because somehow both papyrus (a loud egotistical skeleton with autism) and angus (a reserved gay bear with deadface) are characters that represent me very very well

[itsyourbestnightmare]

“You’re actually afraid to be alone, aren’t you?”

"...That's-"

He wakes up in the middle of a garden. He could of sworn he was suppose to be dead(where are his limbs, WHERE ARE THEY). His father finds him. Tries to help. Tries to make him feel better. Nothing works, run away, run away to mother,nothing is still working, why can't he feel anything in his soul(?) what's the point if THEY are dead maybe he should just-

He wakes up in the middle of a garden. That's when it all starts going wrong. Figures out whats wrong with him. Refuses it for so long. There has to be something, anything that can make it go away.

Hundreds of resets. Starting out it was fine but after he started getting curious...

Sure. He can stop it at anytime. Try to make some connections. Like he has done many, many times in the past. Plenty of monsters waiting to help.

But what's the point if he can't really feel anymore. Without a soul, there was nothing but his own curiosity to get him through this existence.

"...Really silly of you to say!"

"Me? Afraid of that? What a dumb fear to have! Trust me! That is not something I never have to be worried of around here!"

"Maybe you are projecting a little bit here. You seem like the type of guy that DESPISES that."

[justanechoflower-ddlc]

(And, now I looked at the rendering of the backstory so far. Maybe that'll be the answer for how the adapted scenes will work, and maybe even how things here will work. (And I imagine you might have a way of taking specific frames if that's something the news would do, editing tools exist after all. So if I start too early or end too late, or certain parts in the middle wouldn't make the cut, that can be simulated. If you think the news would show Flowey instead of being from his POV, then maybe we can swap between parts of my scene and what you had made with Flowey to simulate that, with the power of editing!

(With that being said, by convincing Monika to join the club (as the first scene), are you referring to what happened in the void where Sayori and Flowey are both trying to get her to stick around near the end of Monika's time at the main blog, or did you have something else in mind when you said that? (I'll probably be doing one of the other scenes in the list in the meantime while I'm waiting for the response here. And saving the file so if it turns out something needed changing, I can do that)

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(Yeah, I can edit in some Flowey parts! You can just make the news reels as normal (but with images) and then I can add in my Flowey sprite to your photo or just make a whole new image. You can always give advice in the post to [Add _____ scene with Flowey here] and then I’ll add replace the suggestion with the image during the editing process.

(My plan for the first bullet was indeed the branch between the main blog to this blog! I think having some visual recap of why Monika went back to her world in the first place would be useful, even if they only convinced her to go back for a short while so far.

[golden-explosions-main]

*Chara smiles a warm smile*

"I'm glad I could help you, even In a small way. Too many of our kind are left alone and broken and that includes Flowey's and Asriel's. That sentiment is why we took in our children, Sol and Lunis, a Frisk and Chara from a collapsed universe."

*She chuckles*

"It still makes me laugh at times to think of a Frisk and Chara raising a younger version of themselves."

*She looks at Flowey again, this time a thought crosses her mind. She brings up her menu and goes to items, she scrolls through her list a selects one. A card appears in her hand and she hands it to Flowey. The card reads Dr. Chara Dreemur, Magical Sciences*

"Here, if you ever wanted to possibly return to your old form, contact her. She is a brilliant scientist and she specializes in anything involving souls, especially artificial ones."

*She leans in and whispers*

"She's a Chara who used to be just a spirit, if you catch my meaning."

*She returns to normal volume*

"Of course you don't have to use her services, I simply offer this as an option should you decide to travel that road."

*During this conversation, the ghostly version of her has started floating on her back, her hands cradling her head*

"I can understand that, there are not many living versions of us, let alone as adults. I was one of the lucky ones, my Asriel talked me out of that stupid plan."

*She looks at Chara with sadness in her eyes*

"I wish I could give some of that luck to those like you. You don't deserve to spend eternity as a spirit. But, as for me being a threat, I can understand why you would think that way. Too many of us are truly evil, but I'm not one of them. I may be a half-demon but I don't let that define me. Hell, if you guys ever run into trouble with anyone, my family would not hesitate to come to your aid. The multiverse can be a cruel place and we need some good to balance it."

*She goes silent again, it can be seen from her face that she is contemplating something*

Tears immediately come to Flowey's eyes and he stares at the card in amazement and Frisk seems just as amazed.

Flowey: "Holy... I think I will definitely travel that road, thank you so much,"

Frisk: "Azzie, this is a really big deal,"

Flowey: "It's more than that...it's so amazing that it's unbelievable,"

Chara: "You've literally just given us some of that luck, or at the very least a great deal of hope,"

"My brother has been struggling badly with his flower vessel the last few years, being his true self is what he's been dreaming about for a very long time,"

[h-yellowfell]

A mother's grief

"Once an unstoppable fighter and blazing flame, Ceroba now spends most of her days wallowing in grief- most mistake her for a ghost, wandering the halls of an abandoned mansion, looking for the family she lost in a single night…

These days however she spends a lot of time in the wild east, perhaps looking a bit out of place in the lively and feisty town, but after a friend offered her a home away from all the painfull memories, she can't help but smile at his anticts…that is until a child much too similar to one she used to know shows up, and she is forced to contront her past and the burden legacy she carries"

Extras (please check this out!):

Heya folks!

oh boy- this post has been a long time coming! ceroba was probably one of the hardest characters to do, i mean there's just so much around her! i have a lot of concept art until i landed on something solid

However i couldn't stop there! i had to make a little sprite for her! and my dear friend @youtube-fucker was so kind to animate her too, i honestly can't thank him enough!

So, lets talk Ceroba!

Ceroba is a curious little case, perhaps the only monster (besides flowey) with a very calm attitude, even if its mostly brought on by a lack of energy, with a more genuienly motherly actions towards Clover, its quite a change of pace to the constant fighting the kid has grown acostumed to- perhaps because of that they're always more polite towards her, even actively searching for her aproval

Most of her backstory should become more clear when im done with Chujin and Kanako, however that shouldn't take too long! (i hope...), although im open to asks, you all should now by now i love an excuse to yap

For now though i'll be back on a small break as i allign the final pieces to this silly Au of mine...story wise at least, god knows i still have a lot of character designing ahead of me!

Thank you all for being here- Stay determined

[beryllineart]

You know, I think part of the reason I like making comics is that it gives me an excuse to rant about characters and worldbuilding and stuff like that. I kind of get embarrassed sometimes about how much I tend to ramble about the smallest things in a character's life, and as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

When I make Undertale comics (or any other comics really), I'm putting that character or world analysis in a shorter form that people will actually want to read and perhaps draw their own conclusions. And I get an excuse to ramble, usually under a cut because I think people don't want to hear my character analyses.

But oh my gosh, it feels so good to rant in my head as I draw about Asriel's guilt, Mettaton's jealousy and insecurity, Monster Kid's protective side... getting to express that through art and stories just feels so good! And even though I'm dying to share it immediately (and probably could if I just started ranting on here), there's so much more impact when I show instead of just tell people about these specific aspects of characters and how that influences the events and choices of their lives.

I've got this one comic that I haven't even started drawing yet, but it's about making the reader feel like a terrible person because of the futility of the story. Secondhand guilt, if you will. The problem is, I had to make a backstory for this character... and give him a family... knowing full well I was going to kill him off because that's how the story goes. And then I drew a picture of him right before his death and... he looked so accepting of his fate. He wasn't even resigned, he was accepting, and that made me feel so bad. Which is good, I guess, except I've started feeling so guilty that I've been procrastinating. XD

Anyway, I've got major respect for other comic artists or writers in general who manage to put so much history and nuance in their works and make things feel real. And I love reading people's posts about character/world/magic analyses because I love to do that myself, plus hearing other people's views gives me some really good ideas.

I don't know why I decided to say this, maybe I was just wondering why the serious, more emotional comics were my favorites to make, or maybe I just really needed to ramble because all of my character analysis comics aren't close to being finished. Canon compliant(ish) subversions are so fun to write, but hugs are hard to draw. Sorry that I rambled for so long and don't even have art for this post.

[akemiiya]

i think clover is equally as tight lipped about their past as flowey is. i think those two would have spent so much time together that they intimately know each other's likes and dislikes, do's and dont's, which buttons can be pushed and which can't. yet when it comes to each other's backstory, all that comes up is a blank

[lancer-fan-club-was-taken]

THESE ARE GREAT FGVXGC-

i especially love undyne being a tea snob. it feels like the type of thing where she wouldn't notice how picky she is with tea, until someone (alphys) pointed it out to her, and now she's really defensive about it lmao.

i'm not a huge fan of the otherworld theory atm, but the idea of sans being able to legally get away with tax evasion is SO funny to me. like- guys just too lazy to properly pretend he's from undertale and actually legally EXISTS. amazing.

i am so curious about these hc's of yours

:)))))) okay firstly, I don't think Sans pays taxes. Bills and rent and all that sure, but as a huge fan of the otherworld theory I think any forged documents gaster would have made for him and papyrus disappeared when he did. And then once he got himself and papyrus settled they just kind of slipped through the cracks- can't tax someone that doesn't exist yeah? So sans just...decided not too, see how long it takes someone to bring it up. Flowey spent three resets trying to get him arrested for tax evasion only for asgore to not really care and just politely ask sans to not do it again. Sans said sure and went about his day after- didn't even get a slap on the wrist.(flowey was livid!) I've posted this one b4 on that confession account but it's my favorite sans hc that isn't to do with his backstory. (I do have headcanons about his backstory....)

I also think undyne really really likes fancy bougie tea curtesy of hanging out with asgore too much. She got soooo excited when she got to the surface and found so much for so cheap only to be incredibly disappointed when it wasn't nearly as good quality as what she's used too. Tea snob undyne- against her will.

Charas favorite color is yellow! Not red! Green is the most popular favorite color amongst monsters and it was asriels favorite before he died- as flowey he doesn't have a favorite colour (so he claims) and if pressed will probably say something cringe and edgy to make people back off ("black like my- oh wait! I don't have one of those!") Stupid nerd still spends so much time looking at sunsets and the sky post pacifist that a trained flowey fan club member (papyrus, frisk) will be able to tell hes lying.

[ppndos]

Why Papyrus is even in Undertale

And no, I'm not saying that he's not important. In fact, he's one of the most important plot devices. But why Papyrus ?

List of stuff Papyrus did for the plot :

Helped Frisk befriend Undyne

Gathered everyone in the Pacifist ending

Worldbuilding (phonecalls)

Characters' personalisation (phonecalls)

Told Frisk to go to the True Lab (phonecalls)

Basically the reason we were able to get the Pacifist ending

Quite a lot, but it all could be easily done by the others.

Befriending Undyne? Alphys. Being manipulated by Flowey? Monster kid. Info dumping on the phone? Sans.

Even among the main characters he seems a bit off.

Toriel is the caretaker of the ruins and former queen. Sans is the royal judge. Undyne is the capitan of the royal guard. Alphys is the royal scientist. Mettaton is the biggest star of the underground. Asgore is the king. Asriel (flowey) is the prince.

And Papyrus is… just some guy.

He could easily be a secondary character like Napstablook. Especially considering his lack of backstory, no character development and a skippable battle in which you can't even die.

But instead he has the biggest amount of words in the game, huge impact on the characters in all of the endings, very detaled hangout/date and a PERSONAL Q&A (also the entire Underale Q&A was centered around him).

What about Deltarune

Papyrus didn't show up in DR yet, but I can feel with my GUTS that he'll be important.

We all know that DR was in Toby's brain even before Undertale, and also we know that Bonetrousle was meant for DR.

Based on some theories about ch3, we can assume that the characters from UT actually might play some big roles in DR.

So… you can tell what I'm trying to say here, right? What if the reason why Papyrus is so important in the game AND in a lot of additional stuff is because he's going to play some role in DR and even have a character arc or be shown from unusual side.

And this “busy” is hunting me 24/7. Too suspicious.